Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 17, 2012, 09:39:47 AM
 I  know what happened since June 25th .. I know why the family and Mj's children cried at memorial but there is still a hoax. It's been more than 2 years that I have been drawn to this story and i didn't know  why AND i couldn't explain so i  made my own research to find out what really happened and now i finally got it . And this huge puzzle takes form easily ..  First of all what i will explain is not a theory,  because i'm pretty sure around 90% that i'm right...
On june 25 th 2009, the hoax began, i don't think that Michael went to the hospital but he was very much alive this day.
I'd like to focus your attention on an other particular day which is July 7th 2009. The whole world watched the memorial but i think that   this day was much more important than just celebrating MJ's death... and i have enough elements to say that a bigger event has happened on that day  . Before the Live memorial I think that the family joined together (maybe at stapple center ) to say goodbye to Michael Jackson. I believe this is the day when MJ ascended . the ascension happens when the whole physical body is transformed in a light and divine body and merges with Unity and God. Jesus Christ succeded but I think that MJ succeded too.  I suspect MJ being the Archangel Michael and the second coming. Please don't judge me, this is ONLY my opinion .
So if i'm right, his children said goodbye to Michael because They always knew who their father really was ! and knew exactly the day when he would leave them only for a time think about Moonwalker .
They knew he was a human being indeed BUT not only Michael Jackson ...  I compare MJ's history with Jesus' to find the truth. So Jesus came back 3 days after (what if 3 days symbolised  3 years? ) what if MJ knew he would back 3 years after on thi earth ? and this could explain why Children and family cried at memorial. Because mj was indeed gone...   I used numerology to know if i was  right or wrong and this is what i discovered.

From June 25 2009 to july 7th 2012,  it passed exactly 1109 days. remind me of 11/9
also, i found that July 7th  was the 177 day of the year and it stays 188 days !!!
 March 19th  2012 t is the 999 day of this hoax and the Birthday hoax ( march 19 th 1953 The greatest show on earth price)  and between this date and July 7 th 2012 it stays EXACTLY 111 days .
And finally, i  asked myself if July 7th 2009  was a moonlight night and guess what????? HAHAHAHAHA it was  OMG! and July 7th 2012 IS  a moonlight night too!! I know it is kinda strange and out of reality but  please, what is reality in MJ's world? ...
 

SO through all this numerology, i can conclude that MJ is Not on this earth at that moment.. but he will back 3 years after July 7th 2009 which bring us to July 7th 2012 ...  If i'm right I  understand why our pain is so present in our heart and why his loss is so heavy . I understand why we miss him so much why we can't give up this hoax, why we feel an empty place on this earth since mj "passed away" .. Because this is paradoxical to want him to come back while we are believer so  what the need " come back" really means to all of us? And also I found many no believers begging Michael to come back when they think he is dead isn't this quite paradoxical ??? sure it is! I believe  each one of us ( believer no believers ) know subconscously that MJ is NOT on this earth. but we can't ever imagine him resurecting only because we are used to thinking inside the box !! only because the theory of ascension doesn't cross our mind . so if he is Alive obviously he is on this planet.. in the same way if he is dead, he isn't coming back.. but  Michael is not dead, he never died !!   
and he will back.. that's crazy i know it, and understand why so many people can't accept this idea.
but i know it for a fact, not because i worship him but because i studied this story and everything becomes clearer when you think about this  idea..
Believe it or not, but i don't find an other explication .
love




Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 17, 2012, 10:08:46 AM
:)  You are so cute in your vision about how things happened.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 17, 2012, 11:38:35 AM
Mimi - thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. I am not so sure but at the moment your thoughts are probably as true as anyone's. We'll be watching :)

Blessings to you!
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Tink on March 17, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I like to think the Prince is waiting for his Irish Princess.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 17, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
oh God
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: blankie on March 17, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
The most important thing is that Michael is well and happy  bearhug... our king know we're here ,  feels our emotions....read our words...  typing/ know that we believe in him...when he wants .....  will be the biggest magical celebration in the world.   /woohoo/ 


                                                                      moonwalk_/ michael-jackson/ mj_dance/




Love you all guys...
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: marumjj on March 17, 2012, 08:34:15 PM
Thanks for sharing your findings. I disagree with Michael compare with Jesus. While Michael was blessed with many gifts, do not compare. Perhaps it is I'm more worldly, and I assert what we have seen so far that has no coherent explanation has developed as deception.
No plan is perfect, in fact, we have hundreds of clues and contradictions that make us think about the deception.
I love Michael and I since my teens (I have almost the same age) and there is nothing in this world who want more to know that this well and happy. If at any time accept his death (with evidence to prove it), never will wait his resurrection. bearhug
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: bec on March 17, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
Banana.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: paula-c on March 17, 2012, 09:21:42 PM
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Banana.



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Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mindseye on March 17, 2012, 10:12:01 PM
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Banana.
  ....... lolol/

Interesting theory  michael-jackson/

But I'm still thinking about Wednesdays, mid May?... and July 25th- a year ago the family announced the Tribute concert.
This year is leap year. I counted 12 Wednesdays from and including Feb 29th is 77 days =May 16th.
Then counting 70 days from May 16 is… July 25th. It would total 1125 days.
Which is 21 Wednesdays, 6 months from Feb.29th.

What does this mean? idk... sorry I drank too much green beer.  :geek:
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: msgitm on March 18, 2012, 01:03:07 AM
Not so sound rude but I don't get why MJ is always compared to Christ? It’s kind of sacrilegious. Yes, he was a very good, kind hearted man but he was/is still just a MAN. When Christ returns we'll know it!  If MJ ever returns from this hoax we'll know it, too! So… a win win as I see it. :)
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Coco on March 18, 2012, 02:20:10 AM
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Not so sound rude but I don't get why MJ is always compared to Christ? It’s kind of sacrilegious. Yes, he was a very good, kind hearted man but he was/is still just a MAN. When Christ returns we'll know it!  If MJ ever returns from this hoax we'll know it, too! So… a win win as I see it. :)

+1
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 18, 2012, 02:56:42 AM
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Banana.
:lol:  :lol: I don't know what happens, but lately you jut crack me up with your coms... one after another  :lol:
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 03:43:18 AM
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Not so sound rude but I don't get why MJ is always compared to Christ? It’s kind of sacrilegious. Yes, he was a very good, kind hearted man but he was/is still just a MAN. When Christ returns we'll know it!  If MJ ever returns from this hoax we'll know it, too! So… a win win as I see it. :)

I'am amazed to see how religions prevent people to think by themselves... i don't want to offend someone but saying that MJ is much more than just Michael Jackson doesn't sound too huge.
Michael is compared to christ because we have enough elements to make this compare .. and if you don't want to think outside of what religion says, that's your choice but it is too bad to deny something that seems very obvious only because it is NOT written in a book .
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: MJonmind on March 18, 2012, 03:55:02 AM
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Banana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNie6hVM8ZI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNie6hVM8ZI)

Mimi248, MJ's been in disguise quite a few times since his death including DaveDave and lately maybe X-factor hatman. Of course he could be more mobile that we think.


(http://webspace.webring.com/people/cu/um_10349/pictures/mj/rocket.jpg)

I know I've tried to figure out what Back meant when he said the beginning of the transfer was on July 7, 09. Very mysterious. :?   If we must always explain everything happening in terms of scientifically possible then it's a no. But if extremely rare miracles/E.T. technology are permissible, then perhaps something abnormal and supernatural happened, but I just don't know. Will have to keep watching.  This hoax sure has a ton of Jesus-related and end-time whispers and connections-- all for MJ's purposes, but not to preach Jesus from the first century as the theme.  Very un-orthodox use of Scriptures, which is my preference. Out of left field, you know!  IMO it's possible that MJ just may have a wild card, something that's never been done before, or even technology/science never achieved before.  He doesn't like doing what he or others have done before.  "My life has taken me beyond the planets and the stars!"


Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 04:15:40 AM
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Banana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNie6hVM8ZI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNie6hVM8ZI)

Mimi248, MJ's been in disguise quite a few times since his death including DaveDave and lately maybe X-factor hatman. Of course he could be more mobile that we think.

I know I've tried to figure out what Back meant when he said the beginning of the transfer was on July 7, 09. Very mysterious. :?   If we must always explain everything happening in terms of scientifically possible then it's a no. But if extremely rare miracles/E.T. technology are permissible, then perhaps something abnormal and supernatural happened, but I just don't know. Will have to keep watching.  This hoax sure has a ton of Jesus-related and end-time whispers and connections-- all for MJ's purposes, but not to preach Jesus from the first century as the theme.

hey mjjonmind :D love your answer I've been thinking about dave dave too !!
But are we sure that this guy was really MJ? and also, what if Dave dave was recorded  BEFORE mj' death? Like any other piece of this puzzle. Don't forget that  Murray's pictures,  hoax clues, sony's believe  production have been created BEFORE June 25th...  concerning MJ at xfactor,  we have NO proofs that this guy was really Michael or he was here only for a purpose ( to say that mj is "here" i'm suspecting him being a sosie or a pseudo MJ to make us keep believing . And the theory of MJ having ascended is related to a back post. i don't know where it is, but he said " on July 7th the whole world attended to Mj's ascension ".. and i think about the immortal world tour, the butterfly, al of things related to Jesus Christ, and why did mj say "i would like to live forever" in Bashir  movie? And do you really believe that mj would come back  in a physical and flesh body ? Michael always wanted to live forever and he studied everything to achieve his goal! he always expected the most incredible things, he wanted the biggest things ever.. if you studied  MJ's mind you would probably know that immortality always have been one of his goal .
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 18, 2012, 09:48:05 AM
So basically you think he found a way to survive to death....to actual death...you think he did what Jesus did. Found a way to resurrect after physical death. OH God.

Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 18, 2012, 09:51:46 AM
Mimi248 and MJonMind,

I have some of the same thoughts as you both; although I don't completely understand how it would work.  MJonMind, maybe your right, it's something we haven't seen before.  Something beyond our current science/technology and we have to wait and see.  Maybe it has to do with E.T. technology ?   

I've thought about ascension and think it could be possible because Jesus also did it as well as others.  There are others who became ascended masters through out history.  Also, I heard about Jesus' coming back in his glorified body so maybe this means a body of light ???  Is this what you mean Mimi ?   It's not as scary or crazy as you might think because we are all really a light body first and then a physical body.  People who achieve a higher spirituality absorb more light.  There's also a light "duplicate" of DNA because it absorbs light.  You have to read about all of this.  They don't teach this in school because this is where science and sprituality are connecting or meeting and they don't want us to learn this.  They don't want to lose their control over us.

Also, there is a possibility of reincarnation.  It could be possible that your soul or some of your DNA information is stored somehow and even recycled some how.  I am not a scientist, but think about computer chips,radio waves, tons of frequencies that are sent through the air to transmit information.  Even crystals can store information.  This is invisible and we can't see it but we learned how to work with this energy.  Imagine if someone saw this 200 years ago.  They wouldn't understand it.  They wouldn't even understand what a TV was. 

So, we have to think outside the box.  It might be something we haven't seen before but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  A lot of information was hidden from us.  Do you realize that the military is usually 50-100 years ahead in the area of technology before it is passed to the "regular people".   Science and history books for the general public are way behind.  You have to search for information yourself that's what I'm trying to do.

Mimi248,  I have also been reading about the moon and the moon phases.  The moon is used when calculating the "creators" calender.  The Jewish holidays and feasts use the moon to calculate the months and the feast times.  That's interesting that you said July 7 had moon light.  Did you mean a full moon ?  The feast days are held during a full moon.     

Love You All     

 

 
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
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Mimi248 and MJonMind,


I've thought about ascension and think it could be possible because Jesus also did it as well as others.  There are others who became ascended masters through out history.  Also, I heard about Jesus' coming back in his glorified body so maybe this means a body of light ???  Is this what you mean Mimi ?    It's not as scary or crazy as you might think because we are all really a light body first and then a physical body.  People who achieve a higher spirituality absorb more light.  There's also a light "duplicate" of DNA because it absorbs light.  You have to read about all of this.  They don't teach this in school because this is where science and sprituality are connecting or meeting and they don't want us to learn this.  They don't want to lose their control over us.





Mimi248,  I have also been reading about the moon and the moon phases.  The moon is used when calculating the "creators" calender.  The Jewish holidays and feasts use the moon to calculate the months and the feast times.  That's interesting that you said July 7 had moon light.  Did you mean a full moon ?  The feast days are held during a full moon.     

Love You All     

 


This is EXACTLY what i'm trying to explain :) And as you said this is not as crazy as it seems to be when we think outside the box , because EVERY people can DO it"  it is about the Elevation of consciousness and embracing  the whole universe, becoming ONE with the divine  .  but you explained it so well , government always tried to keep us away from our TRUE identity .. we are all light being, we all come from on source which is god and we are here to spread Love and unity to go back into harmony with Nature and the Creation
And i TRULY think that MJ achieved this goal, Like you i studied the Ascension and many other things and i  came to this conclusion that MJ  realised Ascension on july 7th he transformed his physical body into a  light body .  /bravo/

yes I thought about Moonlight because of Thriller clip (the transformation ) and also, in moonwalker MJ come back  it is a moonlight too ;) ..
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 18, 2012, 11:00:33 AM
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So basically you think he found a way to survive to death....to actual death...you think he did what Jesus did. Found a way to resurrect after physical death. OH God.

Face it, Gina, you can't handle this subject!  :lol:

With all the reading about light bodies and resurrection, don't you just want back even more the "old" Michael Jackson, instead of a SF Michael?? I know I do.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 18, 2012, 11:24:02 AM
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So basically you think he found a way to survive to death....to actual death...you think he did what Jesus did. Found a way to resurrect after physical death. OH God.

Face it, Gina, you can't handle this subject!  :lol:

With all the reading about light bodies and resurrection, don't you just want back even more the "old" Michael Jackson, instead of a SF Michael?? I know I do.

I like the idea but BUT why would MJ be able to do the same thing as Jesus???
And I want to know who were the others who were able to do the "ascension" like Jesus did? I've never heard of them suspicious//
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 11:43:49 AM
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So basically you think he found a way to survive to death....to actual death...you think he did what Jesus did. Found a way to resurrect after physical death. OH God.

Horus , boudah, Jesus...  Why mj you say? and why not? I mean he is obviously the first in the list being able  to do that , isn't he ?

Face it, Gina, you can't handle this subject!  :lol:

With all the reading about light bodies and resurrection, don't you just want back even more the "old" Michael Jackson, instead of a SF Michael?? I know I do.

I like the idea but BUT why would MJ be able to do the same thing as Jesus???
And I want to know who were the others who were able to do the "ascension" like Jesus did? I've never heard of them suspicious//
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 18, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
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BUT why would MJ be able to do the same thing as Jesus???

Most likely because he tried to imitate Jesus in both, his personal and artistical lives. Some fans take it literally, just like some religious people take Bible's words literally.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 18, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
Gina,

Besides Buddha, Horus,Jesus, there are others mentioned in religions around the world such as Krishna.   Remember the picture Front posted with Krishna and Jesus holding hands.    These people learned how to achieve a high level of spirituality.  Some of the ancient civilizations also studied this such as the Egyptians and others.  They had mystery schools where you learned these things.  There are also other groups such as The Tibetans who know how to work with the energy fields and source fields of the earth including sounds.    They know how to levitate huge rocks among other things.   

Maybe these people were born with more ability, or born more evolved ??  Maybe we all have more ability than we know about or use.  We only use a small section of our brains right now.  We could tap into so much more.  Did you hear about the junk DNA ?  We have strands of DNA that we are not using.  Scientists call this junk DNA.  Maybe it's not junk.  There's a way that these strands of DNA can be activated.  I read that humans used to have 12 strands and not three.  Maybe we will get this energy during the new age that's coming ??  There's a DNA repair frequency going around the internet.  This is the frequency of love and it is supposed to repair DNA.  It is 528hz.  All of the frequencies of light and sound are what creates everything.  It corresponds also with geometry.  This is the tree of life and we are all connected to this.   There is a shared consciousness and energy connecting everything.  It's too complicated for me to describe here.

Did you hear about the indigo children, and so forth ?  It is thought that these children are born with more ability.  They are more evolved, like the next step in evolution.  They have high IQ and communicate differently such as being more telepathic. 

There is a lot to research and I'm still going.  I can't even describe it all right now. 

But, after you look,read, and research you might realize there is a lot we don't know yet and a lot that was hidden from us. 

You said, BUT why could MJ do what Jesus did ?   So, maybe there was a way HE COULD.  There's so much to learn about.
I can get some links to some websites that I found if you want. 


Love You All   

 
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: whatyourheartsays on March 18, 2012, 02:39:59 PM
First i was "WTF" while reading the title....

Then i was "damn, another - I KNOW THE TRUTH- boring person"

Then i was " oh my god LMFAO"

I am absolutly not into this kind of stuff about GOD and light and jesus and archangel and what/who soever... I think Michael is just a man. But i think your post is just the cuttest thing i read for long time.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 18, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
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First i was "WTF" while reading the title....

Then i was "damn, another - I KNOW THE TRUTH- boring person"

Then i was " oh my god LMFAO"

I am absolutly not into this kind of stuff about GOD and light and jesus and archangel and what/who soever... I think Michael is just a man. But i think your post is just the cuttest thing i read for long time.

And you ain't seen nothing yet! Wait till I come with my "I know what happened" story.  8) Stay tuned!  :lol:

In fact, I think it would be nice if we all would come in a thread with our visions about how it happend/ how the illusion will end, then see how things unfold.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
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First i was "WTF" while reading the title....

Then i was "damn, another - I KNOW THE TRUTH- boring person"

Then i was " oh my god LMFAO"

I am absolutly not into this kind of stuff about GOD and light and jesus and archangel and what/who soever... I think Michael is just a man. But i think your post is just the
 cuttest thing i read for long time.


LOL so for you jesus, moises, boudah, was NOT  men ? Jesus was a MAN too ! We are talking about dead people who lived 20000 years ago  how can you be so convinced about what an ascended master really is? he IS A MAN too .disapointing   .... god ! anyway  it doesnt matter, when mj back, you'll see it by yourself. why i'm so  sure about it? because are you really expecting a MJ coming back  and then an other memorial for his TRUE death and all the sadness of fans  once again? MJ would NEVER do that kind of thing for his fan. he is NOT like that and  i'm sorry but it doesn't mark at ALL this is not credible ....    and if you are really expecting jesus coming back from sky well that's okay i mean but it is really  sad to see how people can't open  more their mind and think OUTSIDE of religions.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 18, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
 

I think we are all in for a "shock" even those of us who are expecting something and have some idea of what could be going on.  We'll have to wait and see and try to help as best we can. 

So "Put on your 3D glasses and let's proceed"  "Are you ready?"


Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 18, 2012, 05:28:42 PM
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I think we are all in for a "shock" even those of us who are expecting something and have some idea of what could be going on.  We'll have to wait and see and try to help a best we can. 

So "Put on your 3D glasses and let's proceed"  "Are you ready?"
.   I really love you you know? You are the kind of person that i am  humbled to meet  we Share the same vision  in many  subject i agree with you  :)
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 18, 2012, 05:41:46 PM
I love you too Mimi and all of you.  It would be great if we all could meet, however; we are from all over the world. 

I've talked to people from Romania,France,Mexico,Canada,U.S., Italy and a lot of other places.  It's been great.


Love     :-*           bearhug


Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 18, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
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Banana.
  ....... lolol/

Interesting theory  michael-jackson/

But I'm still thinking about Wednesdays, mid May?... and July 25th- a year ago the family announced the Tribute concert.
This year is leap year. I counted 12 Wednesdays from and including Feb 29th is 77 days =May 16th.
Then counting 70 days from May 16 is… July 25th. It would total 1125 days.
Which is 21 Wednesdays, 6 months from Feb.29th.

What does this mean? idk... sorry I drank too much green beer.  :geek:


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What does this mean? idk... sorry I drank too much green beer.  :geek:
  :lol: :lol:

I was really getting into to your posts. LOL. If you think of some more dates please share.

Blessings
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 19, 2012, 03:51:42 AM
I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 19, 2012, 04:34:39 AM
Also Michael wrote his will on 7/7/2002 that is exactly 7 years before The memorial is that a coincidence too  ? i don't think so..

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. " Shaupenhauer
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: MJonmind on March 19, 2012, 05:13:08 AM
Mimi and Dontwalk, you two are 2 favorite people here for me!!  Keep on learning and reaching and thinking and sharing!!
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MJ said to Murray, “Elvis didn’t do it, the Beatles didn’t do it”.  Yeah well, Jesus didn’t do it either—come back after ‘death’!  But MJ will do it!

Maybe if Ron Wyatt’s story is true (hmm…) which involves totally impossible supernatural things happening, then perhaps he contacted Michael before his death, and gave him samples of this living blood with only 24 chromosomes; remember it was growing and dividing. Maybe MJ’s gotten a transfusion (which JW’s aren’t allowed to get ;)  ).  And now he’ll live forever!! Okay I’m just throwing that out there—not sure if I’m serious.

Dontwalkaway, you are such a crazy good thinker, just bouncing things around—we need more of this—to explore unafraid of ridicule and judgment.  You talking about 528hz and frequency of LOVE healing our DNA is just so mysterious and crazy but who knows!!  Revelation talks about the tree of life with the healing of the nations. Remember the leaf pattern in the ambulance? Maybe this is a hint that MJ has found some plant that is ancient and has unique healing properties that helps the body’s cells to rejuvenate and not age.  Our normal body cells have been said to rejuvenate every 7 years  (apparently not quite right) http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say (http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say) , so why don’t they simply continue—well our bodies have a computer code saying the aging process must kick in. Maybe this plant sends messages to the body to not continue the aging process. Maybe this plant existed when the people lived in Genesis who lived ridiculously long years like Methuselah 969 years. What happened to shorten lives to 1/12 th of the original ages? God kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden so they wouldn't eat from the Tree of life; there is such things as forbidden knowledge--until the right time in history.

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I think Michael is just a man.
I would say this is more boring than mimi's theory, and not too original. :)   Probably 99% of people would say this. Hey, and you could very well be right, but thinking like all the rest is not how MJ liked/likes to think, thankfully!!


 
And moonwalk_/ what a michael-jackson/ man mj_bad/ he is!!
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 19, 2012, 06:10:30 AM
But Jesus came back after death but he showed himself only to a few people.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: AKHTONI on March 19, 2012, 06:14:42 AM
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I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Ok just bring Hagi and nadia with you they were great players.  lolol/
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 06:27:59 AM
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[...]I think Michael is just a man. [...]
Michael is THE MAN ! not "just a man". Let's not minimalize... let's not pass to the other extreme... I mean he may not be Jesus himself, but Michael is not "just" a man... like others! Oh no, Michael is really a highly gifted human being, from all points of view! IMO he surpasses by far the qualities of a normal human being! He really is NOT "just a man", he is THE MAN!
And if he's not Jesus, then he surely is the closest "modern version" of Jesus ever!
God surely sent him for a purpose here on Earth, and that purpose was not to be "just a man" or "just an entertainer".
Michael is SPECIAL, UNIQUE, GLOBAL, TRANSCENDENTAL... really I think it's wrong to "simplfy" him like that just to proove or say that he's not Jesus.

@Don'tWalkAway & @MjonMind: you're in my heart!  bearhug
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mimi248 on March 19, 2012, 06:27:59 AM
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Mimi and Dontwalk, you two are 2 favorite people here for me!!  Keep on learning and reaching and thinking and sharing!!
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MJ said to Murray, “Elvis didn’t do it, the Beatles didn’t do it”.  Yeah well, Jesus didn’t do it either—come back after ‘death’!  But MJ will do it!

Maybe if Ron Wyatt’s story is true (hmm…) which involves totally impossible supernatural things happening, then perhaps he contacted Michael before his death, and gave him samples of this living blood with only 24 chromosomes; remember it was growing and dividing. Maybe MJ’s gotten a transfusion (which JW’s aren’t allowed to get ;)  ).  And now he’ll live forever!! Okay I’m just throwing that out there—not sure if I’m serious.

Dontwalkaway, you are such a crazy good thinker, just bouncing things around—we need more of this—to explore unafraid of ridicule and judgment.  You talking about 528hz and frequency of LOVE healing our DNA is just so mysterious and crazy but who knows!!  Revelation talks about the tree of life with the healing of the nations. Remember the leaf pattern in the ambulance? Maybe this is a hint that MJ has found some plant that is ancient and has unique healing properties that helps the body’s cells to rejuvenate and not age.  Our normal body cells have been said to rejuvenate every 7 years  (apparently not quite right) http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say (http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say) , so why don’t they simply continue—well our bodies have a computer code saying the aging process must kick in. Maybe this plant sends messages to the body to not continue the aging process. Maybe this plant existed when the people lived in Genesis who lived ridiculously long years like Methuselah 969 years. What happened to shorten lives to 1/12 th of the original ages? God kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden so they wouldn't eat from the Tree of life; there is such things as forbidden knowledge--until the right time in history.

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I think Michael is just a man.
I would say this is more boring than mimi's theory, and not too original. :)   Probably 99% of people would say this. Hey, and you could very well be right, but thinking like all the rest is not how MJ liked/likes to think, thankfully!!


 
And moonwalk_/ what a michael-jackson/ man mj_bad/ he is!!



hee :) you and dont walk awayy  too are my favorite hoaxers on this forum !! i love when people dare to expect the UNEXPECTABLE And you're right Michael ALWAYS think in that kind of way and that's why we LOOOOOOOOVE him  /bravo/ /bravo/ I'm proud to be a Jackson girl
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 06:30:42 AM
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I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Ok just bring Hagi and nadia with you they were great players.  lolol/
LMFAO @AKHTONI youi're killing me girl  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 19, 2012, 08:49:01 AM
Actually I think that being "just a man" is quite a compliment, for Michael including. Aren't we "just humans" right now so we can experience from this point of view?!
Being just a man doesn't mean you can't be connected with your real self. Michael did this and look how inspired got during his life of human being!
Otherwise, if MJ is not just a human, then we aren't either.

Agree with the meeting in Romania. With MJ joining us.  mj_bad/
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 19, 2012, 09:12:46 AM
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I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Ok just bring Hagi and nadia with you they were great players.  lolol/
Why bring them if I can bring myself  ;D?
Me, Sim, Sigh,appleahead, veronica and the others can substitute Hagi for sure, not sure about substituting Nadia, she's too precious :D
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 19, 2012, 09:18:01 AM
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[...]I think Michael is just a man. [...]
Michael is THE MAN ! not "just a man". Let's not minimalize... let's not pass to the other extreme... I mean he may not be Jesus himself, but Michael is not "just" a man... like others! Oh no, Michael is really a highly gifted human being, from all points of view! IMO he surpasses by far the qualities of a normal human being! He really is NOT "just a man", he is THE MAN!
And if he's not Jesus, then he surely is the closest "modern version" of Jesus ever!
God surely sent him for a purpose here on Earth, and that purpose was not to be "just a man" or "just an entertainer".
Michael is SPECIAL, UNIQUE, GLOBAL, TRANSCENDENTAL... really I think it's wrong to "simplfy" him like that just to proove or say that he's not Jesus.

@Don'tWalkAway & @MjonMind: you're in my heart!  bearhug
He is just a man but not any man can be Michael Jackson. I agree with you. This never ending hoax helped us to get "closer" to him in a way, by learning about him and we know he's just a man, yet he is much more.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: curls on March 19, 2012, 09:26:31 AM
I've said before that I think MJ got to the heart and soul of what it means to be 'just' a man, the essence of a real human being. I'd like to think that as human beings too, it's within each of us, we could all achieve that - if we can't (because he's 'different' from us in some fundamental way) I see little hope for a better world.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 19, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
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I see little hope for a better world.

Sometimes I tend to be negative about this, saying to myself that it's doomed to be just an aspiration for some of us.

Then I feel better thinking that it takes time for us to remember who we really are and get to that point where we live in harmony within us and outside.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 10:20:06 AM
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[...]Otherwise, if MJ is not just a human, then we aren't either.
Michael cannot be compared like that ... with us or with anyone.
Neither can we be compared to him.


Michael was never "just" a man. He is also a highly, divinely endowed man.
Michael was never "just" an American. He is also a global citizen.
Michael was never "just" a Jehovah Witness. He is also a highly spiritual open-minded thinker.
Michael was never "just" a male. He is also androgynous by character and physical look (angelic presence).
Michael was never "just" an entertainer. Michael is also the Best Entertainer ever.
Michael was never "just" a music-artist. He is also a pioneer in music industry, he is a GENIUS!
Michael was never "just" a black man. He is also black and white.
Michael was never "just" a generous man. He is also one of the greatest humanitarians ever.

That's why, to me:
Michael was never "just" a human. He is half-human, half-angel.
And again: Michael may not be Jesus, but he sure is a GOD sent!

Not many ordinary human beings can be all those things^^ combined into one! But Michael is!
So it's wrong to think he is "just" a man. Because it's an incomplete description!
Michael is SO MUCH MORE than "just" a man.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 19, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
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[...]Otherwise, if MJ is not just a human, then we aren't either.
Michael cannot be compared like that ... with us or with anyone.
Neither can we be compared to him.


Michael was never "just" a man. He is also a highly, divinely endowed man.
Michael was never "just" an American. He is also a global citizen.
Michael was never "just" a Jehovah Witness. He is also a highly spiritual open-minded man.
Michael was never "just" a male. He is also androgynous by character and physical look (angelic presence).
Michael was never "just" an entertainer. Michael is also the Best Entertainer ever.
Michael was never "just" a music-artist. He is also a pioneer in music industry.
Michael was never "just" a black man. He is also black and white.
Michael was never "just" a generous man. He is also one of the greatest humanitarians ever.

That's why, to me:
Michael was never "just" a human. He is half-human, half-angel.
And again: Michael may not be Jesus, but he sure is a GOD sent!

Not many ordinary human beings can be all those things^^ combined into one! But Michael is!
So it's wrong to think he is "just" a man. Because it's an incomplete description!
Michael is SO MUCH MORE than "just" a man.

Um... you are quick to judge my post, therefore you're missing my point. I had to say it. Also, we are very diff in the way we see things, this is why I always avoid to comment your posts.

Still... what you perceive to MJ is who YOU wanna be. If you see him as more than a human, you wanna be more than a human - the rest is just illusion.
You see that he discovered his talents and put them in practice - you can do that too, and don't you ever think that your talent is inferior then his, cause that's the illusion, the value given by MAN.

This is why I said he is just a man as long as you are just a man, and he is more than that if you are/wanna be more than that.
Didn't he show you the man in the mirror already?!

<3
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 10:42:47 AM
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Um... you are quick to judge my post, therefore you're missing my point.
I don't judge your post, and I understood your point, but I disagree.
I only expressed my own opinion.
You may disagree of course, but don't accuse me of judging you.
I didn't even quote your name^^, it could have been anyone else's opinion, I would still disagree.

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what you perceive to MJ is who YOU wanna be.
Perceive and want are 2 different verbs.
I perceive him like I described him above ^^ yes. And you may agree or disagree with how I see him.
But perceiving him like that, does not imply that I "want" him or me to be like that. :shock:


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If you see him as more than a human, you wanna be more than a human
^^ That is what I call judging! And... What? I wanna be more than a human just because I consider Michael to be more than human? How did you come to this idea?
Sorry, but your statement doesn't make sense at all. (JMO!)


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and don't you ever think that your talent is inferior then his,
And I never talked about myself here. Why do you keep refering to me or "my talent"? When did I ever talk about that?
 It's not a comparison between me and him.
I only gave my opinion which is contrary to yours. Excuse me for that!
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: curls on March 19, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
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I see little hope for a better world.

Sometimes I tend to be negative about this, saying to myself that it's doomed to be just an aspiration for some of us.

Then I feel better thinking that it takes time for us to remember who we really are and get to that point where we live in harmony within us and outside.

I didn't say I see little hope ... I said if we cannot find the essence of what it really means to be a human being (because being a human being is something other than what MJ is), THEN I see little hope. But I DO believe we can find it within ourselves, as he has, because we ARE just like him, because he is just a (hu)man, just like us!  And if each of us make ourselves and thus our own little world better ..... ripples on water, etc etc..... Still not sure that came out right - I know what I mean, and I think it's pretty much the same as you on this!

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[...]Otherwise, if MJ is not just a human, then we aren't either.
Michael cannot be compared like that ... with us or with anyone.
Neither can we be compared to him.


Michael was never "just" a man. He is also a highly, divinely endowed man.
Michael was never "just" an American. He is also a global citizen.
Michael was never "just" a Jehovah Witness. He is also a highly spiritual open-minded man.
Michael was never "just" a male. He is also androgynous by character and physical look (angelic presence).
Michael was never "just" an entertainer. Michael is also the Best Entertainer ever.
Michael was never "just" a music-artist. He is also a pioneer in music industry.
Michael was never "just" a black man. He is also black and white.
Michael was never "just" a generous man. He is also one of the greatest humanitarians ever.

That's why, to me:
Michael was never "just" a human. He is half-human, half-angel.
And again: Michael may not be Jesus, but he sure is a GOD sent!

Not many ordinary human beings can be all those things^^ combined into one! But Michael is!
So it's wrong to think he is "just" a man. Because it's an incomplete description!
Michael is SO MUCH MORE than "just" a man.

Sorry, Sim, I disagree with you on this! If he's not a man, if he's some super man/angel/godsend, then we can't aspire to be like him. If I believed in God, and I'm not sure I do incidentally, then I would hope we are ALL 'God sent', with equal potential. Michael Jackson is, in my opinion, a product of circumstances, his background, experience, intellect and choices - same as the rest of us. That is absolutely not to detract from his achievements and qualities in any way - in fact it makes them even greater and worthy of awesome admiration - because we all were born with potential for greatness but most don't achieve it.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
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[...]If I believed in God, and I'm not sure I do incidentally[...]
Ok I understand you and I think it's normal that you disagree with me and that you don't see things the way I do, especially if you don't believe in God. I respect your opinion.


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[...]
Sorry, Sim, I disagree with you on this! [...]
You don't need to be sorry. It's OK to disagree, at least I'm, ok with people disagreeing with me, it seems others here are bothered ... (I'm talking about Veronica's post above^^)

I expressed my opinion. I didn't do it for others to agree or disagree with me... I'm not collecting applause or prizes or something, for God's sake!

I start to be sorry for even "daring" to say how I think.

I get out of this thread, now.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: curls on March 19, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
@Sim, I just said 'sorry' to be polite!  I don't have a problem with you or anyone else having differing opinions from mine and I know you don't either. We're just exchanging opinions, having a discussion - that's all good.

Please don't get upset with misunderstandings or little disagreements. They happen!

 bearhug
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 11:16:01 AM
@curls: thank you for being polite ;)
I don't get upset, I am just like this  :shock: sometimes... when I see certain reactions...
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 19, 2012, 11:27:12 AM
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I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Ok just bring Hagi and nadia with you they were great players.  lolol/

OK I'm not done with you yet mister.
How do you know about Hagi? Why are you always making fun of me? Why you say you are a woman when it's not true?
WHY OH WHY /pull hair/ ?
Why you sound so suspicious to me??
Why am I paranoid errrr?

Oh Sim btw I agree with you.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: veronicafall on March 19, 2012, 12:09:15 PM
@Sim, I dare to say you didn't understand much from what I wrote and the proof is in all those questions you asked me above.

Michael shows us the mirror (himself) to see ourselves in it. Maybe you see him as supranatural/ "supra-impossible things to achieve" because you didn't discover yet how wonderful people, in general, are or could be, including yourself.
The fact that his talent produces more joy to others, more money, etc doesn't mean that your/our talents are less valuable.
As I said, it's just an illusion this value other people gives to certain things, at certain times.


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I know what I mean, and I think it's pretty much the same as you on this!

Yes, and because I have to express myself in words here, I have to add that (for me) everything does not stop for us to being human beings - ALL doesn't begin with our birth, neither it ends with our physical death.

If we wouldn't have to express ourselves in words, things would be different, simpler and closer to the truth because the limitation of God to one tiny word would disappear and all we'd need is to connect to our essence. This would lead us to that one place called home, either we are atheists or believers.

(Sorry I can't express myself better in English, it's quite frustrating right now this issue)
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: AKHTONI on March 19, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
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I want a meeting, I think it would be great. I think we should all meet in Romania.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Ok just bring Hagi and nadia with you they were great players.  lolol/

OK I'm not done with you yet mister.
How do you know about Hagi? Why are you always making fun of me? Why you say you are a woman when it's not true?
WHY OH WHY /pull hair/ ?
Why you sound so suspicious to me??
Why am I paranoid errrr?

Oh Sim btw I agree with you.

Give me the answer!!GINA
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: SimPattyK on March 19, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
@veronica: I will reply to you in private!
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 19, 2012, 04:34:47 PM
MJonMind.

Thanks for calling me a crazy good thinker but to be honest with you I didn't come up with the information about the 528 hz.  It's on different websites and videos that I had watched a while back.  Scientists found that 528hz. repairs DNA.  If you go on you tube there are sites where you can meditate to different healing frequencies and they repair DNA etc.  There was also one that someone posted on this website in order to heal chromosomes/DNA.  I listened to it.  It makes sense because it is vibration and everything is vibration and light. 
I usually don't come up with things but sometimes I connect it or try to.  MJonMind,SimPattyK,Mimi,Sarahli,Gwynedd and others keep coming up with a lot of "stuff" !!!!!   You guys are great.

I have to go now but I'll try to come back on later.

 ;)
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: mindseye on March 19, 2012, 09:43:55 PM
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Banana.
  ....... lolol/

Interesting theory  michael-jackson/

But I'm still thinking about Wednesdays, mid May?... and July 25th- a year ago the family announced the Tribute concert.
This year is leap year. I counted 12 Wednesdays from and including Feb 29th is 77 days =May 16th.
Then counting 70 days from May 16 is… July 25th. It would total 1125 days.
Which is 21 Wednesdays, 6 months from Feb.29th.

What does this mean? idk... sorry I drank too much green beer.  :geek:


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What does this mean? idk... sorry I drank too much green beer.  :geek:
  :lol: :lol:

I was really getting into to your posts. LOL. If you think of some more dates please share.

Blessings

I just read the post about LMP new release May 15.  8-)

So far that's all I came up with,  geek/  I was bored ... it's just a crazy number thing using the man in the mirror's Inmate #2926725  =  29/2  6   7/25
Title: Re: 582Hz DNA healing
Post by: Tink on April 01, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
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Mimi and Dontwalk, you two are 2 favorite people here for me!!  Keep on learning and reaching and thinking and sharing!!
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MJ said to Murray, “Elvis didn’t do it, the Beatles didn’t do it”.  Yeah well, Jesus didn’t do it either—come back after ‘death’!  But MJ will do it!

Maybe if Ron Wyatt’s story is true (hmm…) which involves totally impossible supernatural things happening, then perhaps he contacted Michael before his death, and gave him samples of this living blood with only 24 chromosomes; remember it was growing and dividing. Maybe MJ’s gotten a transfusion (which JW’s aren’t allowed to get ;)  ).  And now he’ll live forever!! Okay I’m just throwing that out there—not sure if I’m serious.

Dontwalkaway, you are such a crazy good thinker, just bouncing things around—we need more of this—to explore unafraid of ridicule and judgment.  You talking about 528hz and frequency of LOVE healing our DNA is just so mysterious and crazy but who knows!!  Revelation talks about the tree of life with the healing of the nations. Remember the leaf pattern in the ambulance? Maybe this is a hint that MJ has found some plant that is ancient and has unique healing properties that helps the body’s cells to rejuvenate and not age.  Our normal body cells have been said to rejuvenate every 7 years  (apparently not quite right) http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say (http://www.divinecaroline.com/22175/101628-body-regenerates-seven-years-say) , so why don’t they simply continue—well our bodies have a computer code saying the aging process must kick in. Maybe this plant sends messages to the body to not continue the aging process. Maybe this plant existed when the people lived in Genesis who lived ridiculously long years like Methuselah 969 years. What happened to shorten lives to 1/12 th of the original ages? God kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden so they wouldn't eat from the Tree of life; there is such things as forbidden knowledge--until the right time in history.

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I think Michael is just a man.
I would say this is more boring than mimi's theory, and not too original. :)   Probably 99% of people would say this. Hey, and you could very well be right, but thinking like all the rest is not how MJ liked/likes to think, thankfully!!


 
And moonwalk_/ what a michael-jackson/ man mj_bad/ he is!!

Well, well - that explains something profound that's been happening to me, that began 2 weeks ago, with the Angel incident. I couldn't figure out the "tone" which is definitely a healing wave.
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Dontwalkaway on April 01, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Tink,

That's interesting about the tone.  Where/when do you hear it ?  Do you think it's 528 hz. ? 

I didn't come up with that information.  I read about it and also saw videos about it.  528 hz. was shown to heal DNA.  There are also other frequencies that do other things.    I also read that 528 is the love frequency and also the color green, which is in the middle of the rainbow.

Can you tell us more about the angel you saw ?   I'm just really curious about it.

 :icon_e_smile:

 

Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Tink on April 02, 2012, 01:32:31 AM
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Tink,

That's interesting about the tone.  Where/when do you hear it ?  Do you think it's 528 hz. ? 

I didn't come up with that information.  I read about it and also saw videos about it.  528 hz. was shown to heal DNA.  There are also other frequencies that do other things.    I also read that 528 is the love frequency and also the color green, which is in the middle of the rainbow.

Can you tell us more about the angel you saw ?   I'm just really curious about it.

 :icon_e_smile:

I've got a sketch, of which I've imported. I'm painting her in Photoshop. ONE crystal wing was unfurled all the way, I'd never seen any paintings or images like that in my entire life! When I swung around, Her wing was tucked in at that point. If it hadn't been for the snow - I'd never had seen her wing! I guess she didn't need both out for something so minor for her!?   :icon_pale:

As for the 528 hz, I had no idea how healing the sounds are! It was definitely a healing wave that washed over everyone directly around her. As if she was singing, I could hear her inside of my head. She was concerned for those around her, then relieved they were okay? I do know she was initially angry, then laughed - that's when she turned the rain into snow, as a sign. She wanted them to let her into the gates willingly, didn't want to play silly games. If they asked her the same thing they asked me, I can understand why she was upset: "What's your name?" An angel cannot answer that question

I didn't know what all it was about, except I've been playing Gregorian chants, and things like it. My Fibromyalgia can be quite painful, and be from minor, to excruciating with my Migraines, along with extreme inflammation. It's like She ran much of the inflammation out of me!!  :o That day I spent in bed? Felt like half a week! I was also in the bathroom. Remember right after that, the post of CM on TMZ "mentioning" explosive diarrhea? I wasn't that bad - but I sure felt someone was laughing at me, with what I went through!

You don't get touched by an angel, without side effects.

I took a chance posting this - because I've got a few people thinking I'm nutso. Some think I simply dreamed it. But others did see it, so I know it was real. It's also on the security cameras...oh...my...

Do you think perhaps, this is something similar, to what happened to Michael that morning!?
Title: Re: I know what happened
Post by: Loveunited on April 02, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
TINK, re: I didn't know what all it was about, except I've been playing Gregorian chants...........
(and all others, which is to say US!)
I am fascinated to look into the 528 hz frequency more-- just started to look it up (pressed for time/shower/work etc).. and found links between Gregorian chants and this frequency of healing DNA.

Wish I could stay home today to look into it further... Personally I have been sleeping on linen because of the vibrational frequency that has been found to emit and I am so much BETTER.............I very much want to pursue this and integrate it into my life and work. This whole field fascinates me- we are all light and vibration and structured in fractals-- very precise!

Gotta go, just wanted to link the Gregorian chants to the 528 frequency for Tink.  And I believe you know I do not think you are crazy..................!
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