Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => AEG ~ Sony => Topic started by: Katie2 on March 04, 2012, 05:39:05 AM
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The UK Sunday Times today is reporting that hackers have stolen 'Michael Jackson's entire back catalogue and a wealth of unreleased material worth £160m.'
The hackers allegedly downloaded more than 50,000 digital music files in the biggest ever cyber attack on a record company.
'Everything Sony purchased from the MJ estate was compromised' said a well placed source.
The Jackson hack was dicovered weeks after a Playstation hack, from routine monitoring of social networking sites, Jackson fan sites and hacking forums. It caused Sony to check their systems and they found the breach. Sony identified the weakness and plugged the gap.
The theft has implications for all living and dead Sony music artists.
Sony music confirmed last night that it had been hacked and its Michael Jackson material stolen. A Sony source said that the company immediately alerted the MJ estate but had no obligation to make the theft public as it had not involved customer data.
The company has contacted the cybercrime wing of the Serious Organised Crime Agency, which has taken over the case. Two men appeared in court last week charged with offences under the Computer Misuse Act. They denied the charges and were remanded on bail.
Sony really does not have good protection, if they got hacked AGAIN. But hey, look on the bright side we might get new unreleased MJ songs :)
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The UK Sunday Times today is reporting that hackers have stolen 'Michael Jackson's entire back catalogue and a wealth of unreleased material worth £160m.'
The hackers allegedly downloaded more than 50,000 digital music files in the biggest ever cyber attack on a record company.
'Everything Sony purchased from the MJ estate was compromised' said a well placed source.
The Jackson hack was dicovered weeks after a Playstation hack, from routine monitoring of social networking sites, Jackson fan sites and hacking forums. It caused Sony to check their systems and they found the breach. Sony identified the weakness and plugged the gap.
The theft has implications for all living and dead Sony music artists :? .
Sony music confirmed last night that it had been hacked and its Michael Jackson material stolen. A Sony source said that the company immediately alerted the MJ estate but had no obligation to make the theft public as it had not involved customer data.
The company has contacted the cybercrime wing of the Serious Organised Crime Agency, which has taken over the case. Two men appeared in court last week charged with offences under the Computer Misuse Act. They denied the charges and were remanded on bail.
Sony really does not have good protection, if they got hacked AGAIN. But hey, look on the bright side we might get new unreleased MJ songs :)
What :shock: ???? Implication for LIVIND and DEAD Sony music artist???? Is this for REAL WTF?? ????
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1+ 6+ 0. Hmmmm! smiley_spider There’s that number 7 again. /white flag/
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how are they allowed to do this ???????????? ???/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2110022/Michael-Jacksons-catalogue-stolen.html
That's bad! £160million worth of Michael Jackson's back catalogue has been stolen
Michael Jackson's entire back catalogue has been stolen by internet hackers. Sony music suffered its second major security breach in a year, with thieves targeting songs and unreleased material by the superstar singer. It's alleged they downloaded more than 50,000 music files, worth £160million, in the biggest ever cyber attack on a music company. The news comes just a year after Sony paid £250million for the seven-year rights to the songs following Jacko's death. The contract with Jackson's estate also allowed them to release 10 new albums, including material from studio sessions produced during the making of some of the star's biggest albums. The singer, who died in June 2009 at the age of 50, had recorded unreleased duets with artists ranging from the late Freddie Mercury and Black Eyed Peas singer Will.i.am.
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So this is about hackers who steal a "back" catalog?
What's this now, a "back catalog"?
Either it's a full catalog which is front seat published or it's some hits that are somewhere available already.
Unreleased material goes into a safe anyway, especially if it is worth hundreds of millions of $$$.
160 million pounds only for the complete catalog? Ooops, MJ just took a deep dive in value.
Really?
Do I believe this?
NO.
Back's stolen catalog gets on the thieves' trail to the UK?
;)
I'd say, Back's on the road to the UK.
Where's my popcorn?
(http://www.cncecke.de/forum/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)
I was expecting news, today. Blessings.
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So this is about hackers who steal a "back" catalog?
What's this now, a "back catalog"?
Either it's a full catalog which is front seat published or it's some hits that are somewhere available already.
Unreleased material goes into a safe anyway, especially if it is worth hundreds of millions of $$$.
160 million pounds only for the complete catalog? Ooops, MJ just took a deep dive in value.
Really?
Do I believe this?
NO.
Back's stolen catalog gets on the thieves' trail to the UK?
;)
I'd say, Back's on the road to the UK.
Where's my popcorn?
(http://www.cncecke.de/forum/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)
I was expecting news, today. Blessings.
Grace you are very funny my friend :lol: :lol: :lol: !!!
I really believe that “We’ve All Been Played” HA HA HA .....by some Anonymous maybe :idea: ;)) ......who knows lolol/ mj_bad/ !!!!
It seems that not only Sony is a target this days cause Interpol in on their list too :? .The attack came as Interpol announced it arrested 25 suspected hackers from the movement in Europe and South America smiley_spider .
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What the hell is "back catalogue" ? Non-native English speaker here...
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That means that his "Back" Catalogue is on the internet, correct?
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What the hell is "back catalogue" ? Non-native English speaker here...
The back catalogue is the entirety of those music titles of a record label that are still consignable but not currently being prepared or merchandised as new releases (as per German Wikipedia....I am not an expert in music terminology :lol: )
So basically every "old" and already released music title becomes a part of the back catalogue.
The term is also used for the complete works of an artist.
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The "living or dead" artists got me! ;))
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4172075/Michael-Jacksons-back-catalogue-stolen-by-hackers.html
Sony music suffered its second major security breach in a year, with thieves targeting songs and unreleased material by the superstar singer.
It's alleged they downloaded more than 50,000 music files, worth £160million, in the biggest ever cyber attack on a music company.
The news comes just a year after Sony paid £250million for the seven-year rights to the songs following Jacko's death.
The contract with Jackson's estate also allowed them to release 10 new albums, including material from studio sessions produced during the making of some of the star's biggest albums.
The singer, who died in June 2009 at the age of 50, had recorded unreleased duets with artists ranging from the late Freddie Mercury and Black Eyed Peas singer Will.i.am.
In April the details of 77million gamers were stolen after Sony's PlayStation Network was hacked. The breach cost Sony £106million and hugely damaged their reputation.
The attack on the Jackson files occurred shortly afterwards but has not been revealed until now.
The hack was discovered during routine monitoring of social networking sites, Jackson fan sites and hacking forums.
A source close to the company said: "Everything Sony purchased from the Michael Jackson estate was compromised.
"It caused them to check their systems and they found the breach. There was a degree of sophistication.
"Sony identified the weakness and plugged the gap."
The hack has compromised the work of other artists managed by the firm, including songs by Jimi Hendrix, Paul Simon, Olly Murs, the Foo Fighters and Avril Lavigne.
The source added that the second breach happening so soon after the first "would have made investors and artists think, 'What other part of Sony isn't secure?'"
Last night Sony admitted there had been a security breach and that the Michael Jackson material had been stolen but refused to say how much the hackers downloaded.
A source within the company said that although the Jackson estate had been told about the hack the company did not have to make the knowledge public as there was no customer data involved.
They added that computer experts had traced the hack to the UK by examining a "fingerprint" allegedly left behind.
The Serious Organised Crime division took up the case and two men appeared in court last week charged with offences under the computer Misuse Act.
They denied all charges and were remanded on bail.
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Thank you so much for that Darkchild. Love.
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So@ official aknowledgement from Sony that Back is MJ ?
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This is according to Taaj Malik on Facebook -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Taaj Malik
NO, THIS CAN NOT BE TRUE, WHY WOULD THE ESTATE HAND OVER MICHAELS CATALOG TO SONY!!!! WHAT THE FFFFFFF THEY HAD ALBUM DEALS, WHEN DID MICHAEL HAND OVER HIS ENTIRE CATALOG TO $$ONY, IF HE DID THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD IT !!! THESE CROOKS ARE TYING TO IMPLICATE ANONYMOUS, GRANTED THEY DID HACK SONY, BUT MJ'S (UNRELEASED) MUSIC SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ON A SERVER!! SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN IN SONY POS...SESSION!!!
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE DOWNFALL OF SONY/ATV CATALOG AS WE KNOW IT! AND THAT SCUM JOHN BRANCA IS THE ONLY ONE PERSON WHO IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!! AS IT IS THEM HE WORKS FOR, NOT MICHAEL, IT WAS AEG WHO HIRED HIM, NOT MICHAEL, AND THIS IS EVIDENT BY THESE EVENTS, BTW, I AM NOT SHOUTING, JUST EMPHASIZING MY POINT!! THK YOU
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"There's more to come" - hope my popcorn bucket will be big enough...
We've heard the fans' voices many times.
Were they right?
Not to my knowledge.
Where's the "avoid entrapment" button this time?
rr/
:mrgreen:
respect/
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ok anyone else remember ( or am i imagining again) a very long time ago maybe it was a random poster or one of the "insiders" made a statement. something to the effect of you can't steal something if you already own it ? anybody? bangbang
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ok anyone else remember ( or am i imagining again) a very long time ago maybe it was a random poster or one of the "insiders" made a statement. something to the effect of you can't steal something if you already own it ? anybody? bangbang
I remember something like this...? Or maybe I'm thinking of the scene from V for Vendetta when Evey is first in the Shadow Gallery and is commenting on all the valuables V has and asks if he stole them when he said he got them from the ministry of objectional materials. He replies, "Stealing implies ownership. You can't steal from the censor. I merely reclaimed them."
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Okay is there more to this Sony hacking then we think!!! Didn't Michael get the rights to own his master songs back in October 2011?! If this is true then he owns his own work and doesn't Michael own 50% of Sony!!!! So is it pay back time? could it be the hackers are working for someone? Could this be the start of Sony going down? If Sony had all these songs don't you think they would be truning out MJ albums one after the other to get the most cash that they could!!! No I think there is something behind this all? It could be that Sony never had them in the first place or there is a deal going on behind the scene!!! Michael always said " just because its in print doesn't mean its gospel" Remember that "The Best Is Yet To Come" and we are still in The Great Adventure!!!!
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See my 2 UK post for an update on this. Could not find this thread. sorry. Mods can combine if necessary.
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I don't believe this story, it could be a hoax with a purpose. Anyway, I believe MJ's still the owner of the catalogue. It doesn't matter if the story is true, it seems that Sony's reputation is getting damaged more & more by the media.
http://mobiledevices.about.com/b/2011/10/15/will-sony-be-able-to-salvage-its-lost-reputation.htm and now this news. Could we, the consumers, really trust Sony after all this negative news? It surely are hard times for Sony :mrgreen:
L.O.V.E.
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Wow. Do we know who made the hack?
Applehead....I adore your avatar!
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We remember this:
March 16
250 million $$$
10 albums over 7 years.
Sony Places Big Bet on a Fallen 'King'
Music Company Signs $250 Million Album Deal With Jackson Estate
By ETHAN SMITH (http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=ETHAN+SMITH+&bylinesearch=true)
Months after his death, Michael Jackson set a music-industry record, thanks to a deal between his estate and Sony Corp. valued at as much as $250 million, according to people familiar with the terms.
The deal—touted by both Sony and Mr. Jackson's estate as the most lucrative recording contract ever— guarantees the estate at least $200 million. With 10 albums over seven years, the deal will involve a mix of previously unreleased songs and new packages of familiar ones.
The dollar amount is especially striking against the backdrop of the music industry as a whole, in which U.S. album sales have plunged 52% in a decade. Superstar deals worth tens of millions of dollars per album were rare even at the peak of the CD-sales boom in the late 1990s. Yet it also underscores that the biggest acts are becoming even more essential to record labels, as individual fans purchase fewer albums each year.
Since Mr. Jackson's death on June 25, Sony has sold an estimated 31 million of his albums globally. By the first anniversary of his death, his estate expects to have earned $250 million from sales of music, merchandise and tickets to the posthumous concert film "This Is It."
The advances being paid by Sony are to be offset by sales of albums as well as revenue generated by licensing Mr. Jackson's music for uses like videogames, movies and theatrical performances. But unlike the megadeals struck in recent years by concert promoter Live Nation Entertainment (http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=LYV) Inc. with pop stars Jay-Z and Madonna, the Jackson deal doesn't give Sony income from other parts of the late singer's business, such as merchandise sales or fees for licensing his name and likeness.
In an interview, Rob Stringer, chairman of Sony Music Entertainment's Columbia/Epic Label Group, said that his company was confident it would more than recoup its hefty investment, which he characterized as more than just a record deal.
"We see it as a partnership," Mr. Stringer said.
The deal should give Mr. Jackson's heirs plenty of breathing room with respect to the crushing debt load he had built up in his final years. With his album sales dwindling and concert touring ground to a halt, Mr. Jackson borrowed heavily to finance his lavish lifestyle
The estate is likely to pay off about $125 million in debt by the end of this year, including $35 million owed to AEG Live, the promoter that was to stage a series of concerts by Mr. Jackson in London. The estate is likely to refinance another $325 million backed by Mr. Jackson's two biggest assets: Sony/ATV Music Publishing, his venture with Sony that owns copyrights to 251 Beatles songs; and his 2,600-acre Neverland Valley Ranch outside Santa Barbara, Calif.
A $300 million loan backed by Sony/ATV and held by Barclays PLC matures at the end of the year, and before Mr. Jackson's death it loomed as a major financial challenge.
In striking the deal, Sony is betting that the appetite for Mr. Jackson's music will prove more than just a spike generated by his unexpected death and the ensuing round-the-clock coverage. A record contract struck in the early 1980s gave Mr. Jackson ownership of his recordings. Sony had the right to distribute those recordings through 2015. The new deal extends that right until at least 2017, and adds the rights to material recorded since then.
The new deal, like the one from the 1980s, was negotiated by John Branca, Mr. Jackson's long-time lawyer and now an administrator of the estate.
The deal retroactively covers the soundtrack album to "This Is It," plus a range of other releases, some of which have been mapped out, with others to be determined later. An album of previously unreleased songs is likely to hit stores before the end of this year, and another collection is due out later. The deal is also likely to cover expanded reissues of Mr. Jackson's albums "Off the Wall" and "Bad," as well as collections of remixes. A DVD of all of Mr. Jackson's music videos is likely to be created at some point.
Speculation has circulated that Cirque du Soleil would create a Las Vegas show based on Mr. Jackson's music, as it already has done with Beatles' music. If it does, a soundtrack album of some kind would likely be part of the deal.
The estate could probably wipe out the debts entirely by selling its half of Sony/ATV, although such a drastic step is viewed as unlikely now that Mr. Jackson's posthumous business is generating so much cash.
Mr. Jackson acquired ATV for $47.5 million in 1985. Sony in 1995 paid $150 million to become a 50% partner in the venture. Mr. Jackson's half is now valued at at least $1 billion.
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I wonder if these "financial analysts" ever read with a clear mind what they wrote.
There's a reason for everything.
Michael, you rock! :mrgreen:
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We remember this:
March 16
250 million $$$
10 albums over 7 years.
Sony Places Big Bet on a Fallen 'King'
Music Company Signs $250 Million Album Deal With Jackson Estate
By ETHAN SMITH (http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=ETHAN+SMITH+&bylinesearch=true)
Months after his death, Michael Jackson set a music-industry record, thanks to a deal between his estate and Sony Corp. valued at as much as $250 million, according to people familiar with the terms.
The deal—touted by both Sony and Mr. Jackson's estate as the most lucrative recording contract ever— guarantees the estate at least $200 million. With 10 albums over seven years, the deal will involve a mix of previously unreleased songs and new packages of familiar ones.
The dollar amount is especially striking against the backdrop of the music industry as a whole, in which U.S. album sales have plunged 52% in a decade. Superstar deals worth tens of millions of dollars per album were rare even at the peak of the CD-sales boom in the late 1990s. Yet it also underscores that the biggest acts are becoming even more essential to record labels, as individual fans purchase fewer albums each year.
Since Mr. Jackson's death on June 25, Sony has sold an estimated 31 million of his albums globally. By the first anniversary of his death, his estate expects to have earned $250 million from sales of music, merchandise and tickets to the posthumous concert film "This Is It."
The advances being paid by Sony are to be offset by sales of albums as well as revenue generated by licensing Mr. Jackson's music for uses like videogames, movies and theatrical performances. But unlike the megadeals struck in recent years by concert promoter Live Nation Entertainment (http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=LYV) Inc. with pop stars Jay-Z and Madonna, the Jackson deal doesn't give Sony income from other parts of the late singer's business, such as merchandise sales or fees for licensing his name and likeness.
In an interview, Rob Stringer, chairman of Sony Music Entertainment's Columbia/Epic Label Group, said that his company was confident it would more than recoup its hefty investment, which he characterized as more than just a record deal.
"We see it as a partnership," Mr. Stringer said.
The deal should give Mr. Jackson's heirs plenty of breathing room with respect to the crushing debt load he had built up in his final years. With his album sales dwindling and concert touring ground to a halt, Mr. Jackson borrowed heavily to finance his lavish lifestyle
The estate is likely to pay off about $125 million in debt by the end of this year, including $35 million owed to AEG Live, the promoter that was to stage a series of concerts by Mr. Jackson in London. The estate is likely to refinance another $325 million backed by Mr. Jackson's two biggest assets: Sony/ATV Music Publishing, his venture with Sony that owns copyrights to 251 Beatles songs; and his 2,600-acre Neverland Valley Ranch outside Santa Barbara, Calif.
A $300 million loan backed by Sony/ATV and held by Barclays PLC matures at the end of the year, and before Mr. Jackson's death it loomed as a major financial challenge.
In striking the deal, Sony is betting that the appetite for Mr. Jackson's music will prove more than just a spike generated by his unexpected death and the ensuing round-the-clock coverage. A record contract struck in the early 1980s gave Mr. Jackson ownership of his recordings. Sony had the right to distribute those recordings through 2015. The new deal extends that right until at least 2017, and adds the rights to material recorded since then.
The new deal, like the one from the 1980s, was negotiated by John Branca, Mr. Jackson's long-time lawyer and now an administrator of the estate.
The deal retroactively covers the soundtrack album to "This Is It," plus a range of other releases, some of which have been mapped out, with others to be determined later. An album of previously unreleased songs is likely to hit stores before the end of this year, and another collection is due out later. The deal is also likely to cover expanded reissues of Mr. Jackson's albums "Off the Wall" and "Bad," as well as collections of remixes. A DVD of all of Mr. Jackson's music videos is likely to be created at some point.
Speculation has circulated that Cirque du Soleil would create a Las Vegas show based on Mr. Jackson's music, as it already has done with Beatles' music. If it does, a soundtrack album of some kind would likely be part of the deal.
The estate could probably wipe out the debts entirely by selling its half of Sony/ATV, although such a drastic step is viewed as unlikely now that Mr. Jackson's posthumous business is generating so much cash.
Mr. Jackson acquired ATV for $47.5 million in 1985. Sony in 1995 paid $150 million to become a 50% partner in the venture. Mr. Jackson's half is now valued at at least $1 billion.
Copyright 2012 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved
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I wonder if these "financial analysis" ever read with a clear mind what they wrote.
There's a reason for everything.
Michael, you rock! :mrgreen:
Thanks Grace! I remember this article. In striking the deal, Sony is betting that the appetite for Mr. Jackson's music will prove more than just a spike generated by his unexpected death and the ensuing round-the-clock coverage
Maybe by releasing snippets of "hacked" unreleased MJ songs and the publicity on the web will improve the interest and appetite for MJ music on a large scale even more. There's a reason for everything for sure ;D
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OMG! Does this imply that FANS hacked into the catlogues to prove if the Casico tracks were legit????
http://www.mjjstreet.com/news-and-information/sony-hacked-michael-jackson-songs-stolen/?PHPSESSID=5tmnkq70j9hjccf7le2i82gi05 (http://www.mjjstreet.com/news-and-information/sony-hacked-michael-jackson-songs-stolen/?PHPSESSID=5tmnkq70j9hjccf7le2i82gi05)