Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Persons Of Interest => The Jackson Family & Kids => Prince, Paris & Blanket => Topic started by: applehead250609 on February 26, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
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Chris Brown Approaches Michael Jackson's Daughter, Paris
February 25, 2012 06:40 AM EST
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Chris Brown just can't stop putting his feet in his mouth. Recently, Mr. Breezy, AKA the Felon, approached Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris with an offer to star in his new music video. Needless to say, Paris' grandmother, who is now her legal guardian, was not amused.
If anything can be said for CB, it's that he definitely has chutzpah. And he displayed it recently when he reportedly contacted the 13-year-old daughter of his idol Michael Jackson with an offer that he thought she might actually accept. He wanted her to appear in his next music video. Goodness. Looks like that Grammy win really went to someone's head.
Of course, in all fairness to Mr. Breezy, thinking that Paris Jackson might want to appear in his music video wasn't completely crazy. After all, Paris is about to make her screen début in Lundon's Bridge and the Three Keys—a "fantasy adventure/ family" film. Furthermore, the young Miss Jackson is known to be "a HUGE fan of the girl-bashing rapper" and rumor has it that she was thrilled by his offer. Unfortunately for CB, "thrilled" doesn't begin to describe Katherine Jackson's reaction. The Jackson family matriarch reportedly went "ballistic, and barked: No!" And that, as the cliché goes, was that.
And who could blame her?
"She doesn't feel that Brown, who was convicted of felony assault for his attack on Rihanna, is a good influence," explains a Jackson insider. "She allows her granddaughter to be a fan, and lets her attend his concerts, but she draws the line at Paris working side by side with him."
So, there you have it. Katherine Jackson has some nerve forbidding her granddaughter to work with a woman-beating, chair-throwing, phone-stealing, seagull-chasing lunatic—er—Grammy winner. What was she thinking?
Just kidding. You go, Mrs. Jackson.
As for Chris Brown, better luck next time.
© Hope Carson 2012
http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981142521 (http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981142521)
Mmmm.......intresting so the family is letting little Paris going at Chris Brown concerts,even hanging and doing pictures ......but not a video together :? ????
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Since Rihanna and Chris are "still" together my honest opinion is that it was all for CONTROVERSY /cook/ geek/ .PERIOD !!!
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Grammy awards 2012
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Chris Brown (left) and Dudley O'Shaughnessy from "We found Love in a hopeless place" (right)
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You go, Mrs. Jackson.
Yes! You go, Mrs. Jackson
The CB's vid's I've seen so far aren't exactly appropriate to act in for a girl of 13 year old. Now I'm speaking from my own point of view, and what I would decide as a mum, so I can't really judge in this situation.
It depends on the music video and her role in it. We don't know what kind of music video. Maybe it is a music video which is part of the movie "Lundon's Bridge and the Three Keys", which is ok of course. Well anyways, the family matriarch knows and decides and I absolutely respect that, so.. you go, Katherine! respect/
L.O.V.E.
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Rumor or not, Mrs. Katherine does what should be done.
I love Mrs. Katherine and agree with her on this one.
When Paris will be 18, she'll start with her own decisions on CB, but not now.
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I've felt for awhile that Chris Brown has a close connection to Michael. This little 'story' is great publicity for everyone and it continues to be important to have the name Michael Jackson somehow in the news.
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Well if there is still a place left, I'll be in his music video...lol
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
But Mrs. Jackson would allow her daughter to be photographed with and hang out with Chris, but not do a video? Seems a bit arbitrary if you ask me. Besides, I'm not convinced the stories about Chris are true. We all know how the media lies.
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It is strange to see the daughter of the King of Pop so excited about Chris Brown.
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I've always thought that maybe it was a set up to get Rihanna out of the Illumanti. Wasn't it TMZ who posted the first pics of Rihanna? In no way do I condone violence especially towards women, but it just feels very hoax-y to me. Also Rihanna was recently spotted carrying around a script with bold letters reading "cast" recently. Also being my generation I can defietly say domestic violence was a huge problem and perhaps Rihanna's "character" is being a sort of role model. The truth is ugly and it does help to have someone you look up to face the same demons and come out stronger. Just a theory though. michael-jackson/
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I'm not really a fan of Chris Brown, but I'm thinking he probably asked Paris to be in his video because he knows she's a fan, and he loves and idolizes her father. I highly doubt he had intentions to have her do anything inappropriate. I don't exactly know what happened with him and Rihanna, but I do know you shouldn't judge 22+ years of someones life from one incident that lasted minutes, and you definitely shouldn't judge their future because of it. (Especially since you know very little about what really even happened) Read his tweets. He isn't a "freak".
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I've felt for awhile that Chris Brown has a close connection to Michael. This little 'story' is great publicity for everyone and it continues to be important to have the name Michael Jackson somehow in the news.
beerchug I feel the same :) ,thank you !!!!
Pay attention here and tell me if you see something "familiar" :shock: :shock: :shock: !!!!!!
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An L.A. judge Thursday praised Chris Brown on his progress in completing terms of his probation for last year's attack on his then-girlfriend Rihanna. (Feb.18.2012)
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
Tink since you,know better the "GROUND" and since you made that statement,I have something to tell you .Ok let's say that Michael wolud NEVE,NEVER EVER be a Chris Brown "fan" ,because he had beaten Rihanna,but then again how can you EXPLAIN the fact that he invited O.J. Simpson and his kids,at Neverland ,just after he was exonerated for KILLING his own wife ????? So he can be friend with a possible "criminal" ,but not with Chris Brown,whom BTW ,his little girl Paris is havong alot of fun :idea: ..... mmmmmmmmm .......?????
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Applehead, you're right!
I was going to address her personally too, but I would have felt bad for calling her out.
Perhaps we should just let Michael speak for himself from now on : )
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Actually I think MJ has always been on Chris' side.
I remember when Chris just started singing Michael called him up and told him that there were few like them who sang and danced and he liked what he was doing so far. He also mentioned that he liked him ever so often, e.g.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdFb6VFrEj0#t=4m13s
Most importantly the incident with Chris happened in Feb 09 and he was personally invited by Michael to see the TII rehearsals in June 09. Chris and Jamie Foxx were on their way to see the rehearsal when they got the call. http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=4049 (http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=4049) Obviously that meant that his Felon status meant nothing to Michael.
The Paris story is either FAKE or she is too young to feature in a video, it has nothing to do with Chris' status. The media has been publishing the worst articles since he got his Grammy, but he is still winning all the battles.
I don't believe the picture or the new police report of the incident floating around is the truth. It is all a setup to get rid of Chris, he is one singer who is non Illuminati. He has never succumbed to them and I think they tried and are still trying to ruin him. Little did they know that TALENT WILL SURVIVE AND OUTSHINE THEM ALL. Chris actually does not remember everything that happened that night, he could have been drugged or the report and the pic is all a setup. Either way he did his service time, his DV classes and is a regular for his hearings and probation meetings and is the first celeb to get a commendable review during his punishment. He is also not allowed to say anything about the case till the stipulated 7 years is over.
The haters and Jay-z, etc knocked him so badly but he pressed on with his music and he has fans who love him so much, it is very evident on twitter. The media keep publishing lies and crappy shit about him and of course he does rant every now and then and that gives the media more fodder. We hope he will mature soon and ignore the negativity completely.
Rihanna of course was with the Illuminati group as was evident in all her performances. But lately she probably realises that Chris achieved so much without them and I think she is trying to breakaway. Her teaming up with Chris to do the remixes seems like a rebellion against Jay-z. Of course, Jay-z of dissed her and has already signed a look alike and sound alike Rita Ora and has begun promoting her. I am hoping Rihanna will break away finally, she could be much better without them.
@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
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..has already signed a look alike and sound alike Rita Ora and has begun promoting her.
I am hoping Rihanna will break away finally, she could be much better without them.
:o that's it, I'm officially VERY worried about Ri Ri ... [as if I wasn't worried enough about her!] :-[
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
Tink since you,know better the "GROUND" and since you made that statement,I have something to tell you .Ok let's say that Michael wolud NEVE,NEVER EVER be a Chris Brown "fan" ,because he had beaten Rihanna,but then again how can you EXPLAIN the fact that he invited O.J. Simpson and his kids,at Neverland ,just after he was exonerated for KILLING his own wife ????? So he can be friend with a possible "criminal" ,but not with Chris Brown,whom BTW ,his little girl Paris is havong alot of fun :idea: ..... mmmmmmmmm .......?????
Michael invited them over - FOR THE CHILDREN'S SAKE. Michael is kind - but not stupid.
Also be aware that O.J. was found GUILTY, in the Civil Suit, alrighty? He's had to pay out millions for the deaths!
And I do believe that his inability to hold his control has finally landed him in the slammer after all, correct?
Therapists are indeed saying, that Chris Brown & Rihanna MUST stay apart, for both their good. The relationship is volatile.
Here are statistics on women's abuse:
http://www.stopvaw.org/Prevalence_of_Domestic_Violence.html (http://www.stopvaw.org/Prevalence_of_Domestic_Violence.html)
http://www.thehotline.org/get-educated/abuse-in-america/ (http://www.thehotline.org/get-educated/abuse-in-america/)
http://thephoenix.com/boston/news/30161-year-women-got-beat-up/ (http://thephoenix.com/boston/news/30161-year-women-got-beat-up/)
http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html (http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html)
Statistics on the prevalence of the problem indicate that domestic violence is a worldwide epidemic. Studies show that between one quarter and one half of all women in the world have been abused by intimate partners. Worldwide, 40-70% of all female murder victims are killed by an intimate partner.
Many people view domestic violence as exclusively part of certain ethnic or racial communities, or as unique to certain classes, within their societies. In interviews that The Advocates for Human Rights conducted throughout the CEE/FSU region, for example, people often discussed domestic violence in terms of the race, ethnicity, class, education level or age of the abuser or victim. The group or community identified as the victims and perpetrators depended on the country and background of the person being interviewed. This myth conflicts with research that shows domestic violence occurs in all social, economic, religious and cultural groups.
Statistics relating to the prevalence of domestic violence are critical to any advocacy effort. Statistics can help document the need for certain programs or raise public awareness of the extent of the problem. International covenants signed by many CEE/FSU countries require signatories to collect statistics on domestic violence. For example, the Declaration on the Elimination of Violence Against Women recommends that states parties "[p]romote research, collect data and compile statistics, especially concerning domestic violence, relating to the prevalence of different forms of violence against women and encourage research on the causes, nature, seriousness and consequences of violence against women and on the effectiveness of measures implemented to prevent and redress violence against women." Despite these requirements, statistical information on the prevalence of domestic violence throughout the world or in the CEE/FSU region is still difficult to obtain.
According to the Family Violence Prevention Fund (FVPF), one in every three women in the world has experienced sexual, physical, emotional or other abuse in her lifetime. The World Health Organization (WHO) reports that in forty-eight surveys from around the world, 10-69% of women stated that they had been physically assaulted by an intimate partner at some point in their lives. The WHO also reports that studies from a range of countries show that 40-70% of female murder victims were killed by an intimate partner. A 1997 UNICEF publication reports that between a quarter and one half of women around the world have suffered violence at the hands of an intimate partner. From Charlotte Bunch, The Intolerable Status Quo: Violence Against Women and Girls, The Progress of Nations 45 (UNICEF 1997), available in PDF and web format. Additional global statistics are available from the Family Violence Prevention Fund.
In other words: The statistics point out that there are women ON HERE, who've suffered abuse on this very forum!
This is real, people - sure, let a 13 year old enjoy his music. But don't let her be in his videos, for God's sake!!
Michael would never condone violence against someone he loved - THAT is how I know, he'd not condone any of this.
Now does what I'm saying make sense? Because African-American men are under the microscope for violence against women.
Michael would never hurt a fly - literally. THAT is how I know, he'd never condone violence against women or children!!
Until Chris Brown has a record of non-violence against women, I don't trust him. He needs to rebuild trust.
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
Tink since you,know better the "GROUND" and since you made that statement,I have something to tell you .Ok let's say that Michael wolud NEVE,NEVER EVER be a Chris Brown "fan" ,because he had beaten Rihanna,but then again how can you EXPLAIN the fact that he invited O.J. Simpson and his kids,at Neverland ,just after he was exonerated for KILLING his own wife ????? So he can be friend with a possible "criminal" ,but not with Chris Brown,whom BTW ,his little girl Paris is havong alot of fun :idea: ..... mmmmmmmmm .......?????
Michael invited them over - FOR THE CHILDREN'S SAKE, duh!
This is just like those of you, who got angry about Whitney, until I was able to get you all to see Addiction's a disease. So is beating the HELL out of someone!
Tink I know that ADDICTION is a disease :( .Unfortunately my father is a recovery alcoholic :( and I know for sure that he will be forever that,cause if he ever drinks again,all the progress he did till now,will be lost :cry: :'( .Be blessed bearhug .
Beatings,drugs,pills,alcoholism,attempting suicides......... all this will never stop unfortunately,but I think that if someone is willing to learn from their own mistakes,for sure deserve a SECOND CHANCE,even my father :cry: :'( and who know....maybe Chris Brown too :( .Don't you think so?????
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@applehead: Chris Brown is a CONVICTED FELON for beating the crap out of Rihanna! WHICH part of that is hard to comprehend!? 95% of women have a mentally and difficult time leaving an abusive relationship - look at what happened to WHITNEY HOUSTON, for God's sake, and look at where that got her: DEAD!
Rihanna needs to stay away from that freak! They're two people who are a horror show together.
No; absolutely NOT a publicity stunt, to get the crap beat out of you. Look at the stats of women in relationships like that...those who are trapped. Study it hard. Many fall into the drug addiction culture, and believe they aren't worth two dimes rubbed together.
Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
Tink since you,know better the "GROUND" and since you made that statement,I have something to tell you .Ok let's say that Michael wolud NEVE,NEVER EVER be a Chris Brown "fan" ,because he had beaten Rihanna,but then again how can you EXPLAIN the fact that he invited O.J. Simpson and his kids,at Neverland ,just after he was exonerated for KILLING his own wife ????? So he can be friend with a possible "criminal" ,but not with Chris Brown,whom BTW ,his little girl Paris is havong alot of fun :idea: ..... mmmmmmmmm .......?????
Michael invited them over - FOR THE CHILDREN'S SAKE, duh!
This is just like those of you, who got angry about Whitney, until I was able to get you all to see Addiction's a disease. So is beating the HELL out of someone!
Tink I know that ADDICTION is a disease :( .Unfortunately my father is a recovery alcoholic :( and I know for sure that he will be forever that,cause if he ever drinks again,all the progress he did till now,will be lost :cry: :'( .Be blessed bearhug .
Beatings,drugs,pills,alcoholism,attempting suicides......... all this will never stop unfortunately,but I think that if someone is willing to learn from their own mistakes,for sure deserve a SECOND CHANCE,even my father :cry: :'( and who know....maybe Chris Brown too :( .Don't you think so?????
Absolutely NOT! Look at the video on CNN by Dr. Drew, too, while you're at it! CB needs to move on, and be with someone who doesn't hit his triggers, and vice-versa. He'll be much happier, and lose his crazy title.
Abusers? Suuure, they can work the program, no problem - but as soon as you insert them BACK to what triggered the bad behavior? NO! NO! NO!
What are you thinking!? Chris & Rihanna are CODEPENDENT. They must stay apart, so that doesn't trigger, and both fall off the wagon.
It's like telling a drug & alcoholic, "Oh, it's alright to mix xanax with alcohol - but not cocaine & alcohol - mmmkay?" BEEP! WRONG across the board!!
Sadly, I'm sure the toxicology report will say Whitney died of alcohol & xanax. Less people are dying of cocaine & heroine than before, go figure. We've got
a prescription pill epidemic, that's deadly when you add alcohol. Then add volatile tempers. Dr. Drew hasn't been wrong - and believe me - I want to strangle
him sometimes for his pompous, self righteous act...but then I realize, he's an addiction specialist; these attitudes in people with addiction, it's the same
story over & over with codependency, violence & death - sigh.
Break the cycle, and they live.
Being a woman of color, I know this all too well, as it's part of our culture that we're trying to permanently ditch. And it begins with: separating those who
bring out the worst in each other.
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Michael would NEVER, EVER have anything to do with someone who beats their girlfriend or spouse, EVER!!! Mrs. Jackson did a brilliant move, in keeping her granddaughter from being in that manipulative ABUSER'S video!! I STAND BY THIS STATEMENT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
I'm not sure about that.....OJ was at MJ's house and OJ killed his wife! I hope Katherine stands firm and refuses to let Paris work with Chris. It is SO not cool to idolize a woman-beater.
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I agree with Ms. Katherine... not a very big fan of Chris after what he did, no matter how much he says he regrets doing it. I have no sympathy for abusers of any kind :(
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I do not want Mrs Jackson to say yes. I also don't think Paris should be in the limelight at all, at least not in music videos or commercial films yet.
Chris' guilt is not for us to judge. But yes I agree, he should not be with Rihanna ever again, and I don't know why the hell she does not lay off. Its like a challenge to her, to get him back. If you watch all her tweets/interviews for the last one year or more, she has been trying her hardest to get him back. She said she needed a bad boy at Ellen, she is in touch with Chris' mother and of course her songs and videos that she makes about him.
I lost respect for her the moment she made the S&M song and video. Sure people want to argue that S&M is controlled violence and DV is not, but being a victim myself, I know I would never talk about or glorify being whipped or being tied up :( That makes her slutty and doubtful that she is really suffering abuse or has ever. Victims are usually sufferers, they find it hard to be in a relationship with anyone and usually avoid being dependent on a male for fear of being hurt again. I should know, its now 7 years and I am still afraid.
To me she is just someone who either called foul in 2009 or she is trying to exact revenge by playing up to him and then burying him completely. Her collaboration with him does not make sense otherwise.
Paris of course is too young to be discussed, she is a teenager after all, and we all know how that age group listens to sense - she could like whoever she chooses.
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Two points to make.Chris Brown did not beat Rhiana.Illimunati set up.O.J.did not kill his wife.Framed by crooked cops.Dont believe the media lies,and dont trust the corupt Judicial system.I believe M.J likes Chris,and he knows him a lot more than any of us.All the b.s. stories about him are made up,they are destroying his image the same way they did M.J,just in diffrent ways.The Illumanati has their hand prints all over that man.I dont believe none of the bad press surounding him.I think he is a good kid in a messed up sitituation.
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I wish nothing but the very best for both Chris and Rihanna...whether that be together or leading completely separate lives apart. Those are their decisions to make, not ours....their paths to choose, not ours. To pass judgement, especially on something or someone I have no firsthand knowledge of, is not my thing....nor is it my thing to gobble up what the media spews on their 24/7 ragmill.
The decision (if this story is even true) for Paris to not be in Chris' video, IMO has absolutely nothing to do with Chris. She is 'allowed' to go to his concerts, be around him, talk to him, take pics with him, tweet about him, etc. We also know that Chris is close with the Jacksons. If there was any 'fear' for her safety where Chris is concerned, it's not evident. Much like she is surrounded by a group of people wherever she goes, it would be the exact same if she were to be involved in any music video....Chris' or anyone else's (it's a set full of people, not a one-on-one production). So, I don't 'buy' the media spin on this story suggesting that Chris' past has anything to do with this decision. What I do think could be the reason (again, if any of this is even true)....is that Paris has a group of well-intentioned, very smart, and caring people around her that want her 'image' to go a certain way. She is starring in an upcoming movie....a starring role in ANYONE'S music video, IMO, would be Paris 'shining' under someone else's spotlight. She doesn't need that....she can 'shine' just fine on her own.
As for Mike...and what he would or would not do...he did say he thought he could turn Hitler around by talking to him (i.e. Mike felt that even Hilter was 'redeemable'). Unless someone here believes Chris to be 'worse' than Hitler, then what Mike would or wouldn't do is quite evident IMO.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I agree /bravo/
And whoever believes the media stories about Chris/Paris or just Chris himself, should also believe the crap they wrote about Michael. Its a pattern, pull down talented people who are trying to make it on their own.
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I do not want Mrs Jackson to say yes. I also don't think Paris should be in the limelight at all, at least not in music videos or commercial films yet.
Chris' guilt is not for us to judge. But yes I agree, he should not be with Rihanna ever again, and I don't know why the hell she does not lay off. Its like a challenge to her, to get him back. If you watch all her tweets/interviews for the last one year or more, she has been trying her hardest to get him back. She said she needed a bad boy at Ellen, she is in touch with Chris' mother and of course her songs and videos that she makes about him.
I lost respect for her the moment she made the S&M song and video. Sure people want to argue that S&M is controlled violence and DV is not, but being a victim myself, I know I would never talk about or glorify being whipped or being tied up :( That makes her slutty and doubtful that she is really suffering abuse or has ever. Victims are usually sufferers, they find it hard to be in a relationship with anyone and usually avoid being dependent on a male for fear of being hurt again. I should know, its now 7 years and I am still afraid.
To me she is just someone who either called foul in 2009 or she is trying to exact revenge by playing up to him and then burying him completely. Her collaboration with him does not make sense otherwise.
Paris of course is too young to be discussed, she is a teenager after all, and we all know how that age group listens to sense - she could like whoever she chooses.
I do not want Mrs Jackson to say yes. I also don't think Paris should be in the limelight at all, at least not in music videos or commercial films yet.
Chris' guilt is not for us to judge. But yes I agree, he should not be with Rihanna ever again, and I don't know why the hell she does not lay off. Its like a challenge to her, to get him back. If you watch all her tweets/interviews for the last one year or more, she has been trying her hardest to get him back. She said she needed a bad boy at Ellen, she is in touch with Chris' mother and of course her songs and videos that she makes about him.
I lost respect for her the moment she made the S&M song and video. Sure people want to argue that S&M is controlled violence and DV is not, but being a victim myself, I know I would never talk about or glorify being whipped or being tied up :( That makes her slutty and doubtful that she is really suffering abuse or has ever. Victims are usually sufferers, they find it hard to be in a relationship with anyone and usually avoid being dependent on a male for fear of being hurt again. I should know, its now 7 years and I am still afraid.
To me she is just someone who either called foul in 2009 or she is trying to exact revenge by playing up to him and then burying him completely. Her collaboration with him does not make sense otherwise.
Paris of course is too young to be discussed, she is a teenager after all, and we all know how that age group listens to sense - she could like whoever she chooses.
@simalves: Let's not forget: Chris actually CHOKED Rihanna repeatedly into unconsciousness! He easily could've killed her, and that's why the Judge already judged him a FELON according to the law, and will ALWAYS carry FELON on his record, which is a good thing. He can NEVER own guns or weapons of any kind, as it should be, in reaction to such a VIOLENT CRIME committed against a woman!
A bad boy in attitude on stage as a personna - but not in reality. Two different things, babe (to Rihanna).
Now you confuse me: You say don't judge Chris, yet you judge Rihanna, over cute & silly kinky video that takes a spoofy direct jab AT THE PRESS!? I found it so funny, I was LMAO! Yeah, gag the press! Tie them up, and make them stop with their stupid lies! They even made clowns out of them - and at the end, the clowns put the Rolling stones stickie mouth over hers, and some other silly ones over her eyes and eyebrows. All tongue in cheek!
Especially since she's singing partly a children's song, "Sticks & stones can break my bones, But whips & chains excite me." There's your difference, right there, between ABUSE & Kink!
You MUST discern the difference between what the Producers and Directors have them do, and the person.
I agree with Ms. Katherine... not a very big fan of Chris after what he did, no matter how much he says he regrets doing it. I have no sympathy for abusers of any kind :(
Ditto!Two points to make.Chris Brown did not beat Rhiana.Illimunati set up.O.J.did not kill his wife.Framed by crooked cops.Dont believe the media lies,and dont trust the corupt Judicial system.I believe M.J likes Chris,and he knows him a lot more than any of us.All the b.s. stories about him are made up,they are destroying his image the same way they did M.J,just in diffrent ways.The Illumanati has their hand prints all over that man.I dont believe none of the bad press surounding him.I think he is a good kid in a messed up sitituation.
@lovemjforever: You can't make such blanket statements, without expecting a rebuttal. I live out here, and I actually know things about O.J.s case that would freak you out. O.J. finally overstepped his boundaries, and we're all happy that he's off the streets out here. You see: it's better to release 99 guilty people, than to imprison ONE innocent person. Michael was that one innocent person. You can believe whatever misinformation you like, but I know the truth, which wasn't in the Media. You don't know me - but I live here, where this crap comes down all the time. I don't get my info from the media.
CB DID beat and choke Rihanna out, multiple times, that's why he was arrested, and convicted. If you don't believe it, that's what the photos in evidence are for, along with him receiving a FELONY conviction in Court. When it's a REAL Courthouse and a real judge, we don't fool around. Just ask O.J., and why he's serving a sentence in Las Vegas!
Michael believed he could reform anyone - that has no bearing here, in this conversation. Sure; he invited CB to see TII rehearsal - but obviously Chris was NEVER meant to see it, according to Michael's plan, correct?
Sometimes you need to put things into the perspective they were meant to be.
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I agree /bravo/
And whoever believes the media stories about Chris/Paris or just Chris himself, should also believe the crap they wrote about Michael. Its a pattern, pull down talented people who are trying to make it on their own.
Most definetly.
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I do not want Mrs Jackson to say yes. I also don't think Paris should be in the limelight at all, at least not in music videos or commercial films yet.
Chris' guilt is not for us to judge. But yes I agree, he should not be with Rihanna ever again, and I don't know why the hell she does not lay off. Its like a challenge to her, to get him back. If you watch all her tweets/interviews for the last one year or more, she has been trying her hardest to get him back. She said she needed a bad boy at Ellen, she is in touch with Chris' mother and of course her songs and videos that she makes about him.
I lost respect for her the moment she made the S&M song and video. Sure people want to argue that S&M is controlled violence and DV is not, but being a victim myself, I know I would never talk about or glorify being whipped or being tied up :( That makes her slutty and doubtful that she is really suffering abuse or has ever. Victims are usually sufferers, they find it hard to be in a relationship with anyone and usually avoid being dependent on a male for fear of being hurt again. I should know, its now 7 years and I am still afraid.
To me she is just someone who either called foul in 2009 or she is trying to exact revenge by playing up to him and then burying him completely. Her collaboration with him does not make sense otherwise.
Paris of course is too young to be discussed, she is a teenager after all, and we all know how that age group listens to sense - she could like whoever she chooses.
I do not want Mrs Jackson to say yes. I also don't think Paris should be in the limelight at all, at least not in music videos or commercial films yet.
Chris' guilt is not for us to judge. But yes I agree, he should not be with Rihanna ever again, and I don't know why the hell she does not lay off. Its like a challenge to her, to get him back. If you watch all her tweets/interviews for the last one year or more, she has been trying her hardest to get him back. She said she needed a bad boy at Ellen, she is in touch with Chris' mother and of course her songs and videos that she makes about him.
I lost respect for her the moment she made the S&M song and video. Sure people want to argue that S&M is controlled violence and DV is not, but being a victim myself, I know I would never talk about or glorify being whipped or being tied up :( That makes her slutty and doubtful that she is really suffering abuse or has ever. Victims are usually sufferers, they find it hard to be in a relationship with anyone and usually avoid being dependent on a male for fear of being hurt again. I should know, its now 7 years and I am still afraid.
To me she is just someone who either called foul in 2009 or she is trying to exact revenge by playing up to him and then burying him completely. Her collaboration with him does not make sense otherwise.
Paris of course is too young to be discussed, she is a teenager after all, and we all know how that age group listens to sense - she could like whoever she chooses.
@simalves: Let's not forget: Chris actually CHOKED Rihanna repeatedly into unconsciousness! He easily could've killed her, and that's why the Judge already judged him a FELON according to the law, and will ALWAYS carry FELON on his record, which is a good thing. He can NEVER own guns or weapons of any kind, as it should be, in reaction to such a VIOLENT CRIME committed against a woman!
A bad boy in attitude on stage as a personna - but not in reality. Two different things, babe (to Rihanna).
Now you confuse me: You say don't judge Chris, yet you judge Rihanna, over cute & silly kinky video that takes a spoofy direct jab AT THE PRESS!? I found it so funny, I was LMAO! Yeah, gag the press! Tie them up, and make them stop with their stupid lies! They even made clowns out of them - and at the end, the clowns put the Rolling stones stickie mouth over hers, and some other silly ones over her eyes and eyebrows. All tongue in cheek!
Especially since she's singing partly a children's song, "Sticks & stones can break my bones, But whips & chains excite me." There's your difference, right there, between ABUSE & Kink!
You MUST discern the difference between what the Producers and Directors have them do, and the person.
I agree with Ms. Katherine... not a very big fan of Chris after what he did, no matter how much he says he regrets doing it. I have no sympathy for abusers of any kind :(
Ditto!Two points to make.Chris Brown did not beat Rhiana.Illimunati set up.O.J.did not kill his wife.Framed by crooked cops.Dont believe the media lies,and dont trust the corupt Judicial system.I believe M.J likes Chris,and he knows him a lot more than any of us.All the b.s. stories about him are made up,they are destroying his image the same way they did M.J,just in diffrent ways.The Illumanati has their hand prints all over that man.I dont believe none of the bad press surounding him.I think he is a good kid in a messed up sitituation.
@lovemjforever: You can't make such blanket statements, without expecting a rebuttal. I live out here, and I actually know things about O.J.s case that would freak you out. O.J. finally overstepped his boundaries, and we're all happy that he's off the streets out here. You see: it's better to release 99 guilty people, than to imprison ONE innocent person. Michael was that one innocent person. You can believe whatever misinformation you like, but I know the truth, which wasn't in the Media. You don't know me - but I live here, where this crap comes down all the time. I don't get my info from the media.
CB DID beat and choke Rihanna out, multiple times, that's why he was arrested, and convicted. If you don't believe it, that's what the photos in evidence are for, along with him receiving a FELONY conviction in Court. When it's a REAL Courthouse and a real judge, we don't fool around. Just ask O.J., and why he's serving a sentence in Las Vegas!
Michael believed he could reform anyone - that has no bearing here, in this conversation. Sure; he invited CB to see TII rehearsal - but obviously Chris was NEVER meant to see it, according to Michael's plan, correct?
Sometimes you need to put things into the perspective they were meant to be.
Everything that happens in Hollywood is a joke,that i know.I dont have to live there to know the truth.The Media,Police,Courts,Coroners,etc etc ,are corupt and evil.Thats a fact.Money talks b.s. walks.If O.J. is guilty,like you say,then he must have paid a hefty fee,to be found not guilty.I was not there when Chris alledly hit Rhiana,were you.How do you know these things,are you just making assumptions.I take it you believe the story about him stealing that ladys cell phone too,huh.I am not the type,that believes something,if i did not see it mysef,people will say and do anything for the love of money,and racism is always a factor in Bollywood.
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Yes, he did not do so repeatedly. She looked fine a few days later when she was with him in Miami, at Diddy's pad, though the internet is full of pics showing only Chris on Jet skis. They conveniently leave Rihanna out. I always wondered, how did she go from jet skiing, to almost needing reconstructive surgery in a matter of days, and then I knew the pic that is floating around is a photoshop. It was a setup.
Either way since it is LA and this is Chris' first offence (the only other problem they had is when he punched the car glass previously, not her), it was dealt with as a misdemeanor and not as a felony. You can hear the judge discuss this in the youtube I posted. Also he cannot carry weapons during his 5 year probation and for all that they make him out to be, he has managed to stay well out of anything negative for the last three years. Yeah he broke a glass window, but think if he was really an angry black man, couldn't he have done worse???
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From what I've read in a few places, it was very likely O.J.’s son Jason who committed the murders and his Dad wanted to take the rap, why I don’t know. http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207 (http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207)
I don't know if Chris is guilty or it was an Illuminati take-down, but his actions show that he really wants to better himself and learn his lesson well, or he is taking the punishment for ticking off his handlers. As far as Paris' career is going, she is in good hands, Katherine and Michael's.
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Yes, he did not do so repeatedly. She looked fine a few days later when she was with him in Miami, at Diddy's pad, though the internet is full of pics showing only Chris on Jet skis. They conveniently leave Rihanna out. I always wondered, how did she go from jet skiing, to almost needing reconstructive surgery in a matter of days, and then I knew the pic that is floating around is a photoshop. It was a setup.
Either way since it is LA and this is Chris' first offence (the only other problem they had is when he punched the car glass previously, not her), it was dealt with as a misdemeanor and not as a felony. You can hear the judge discuss this in the youtube I posted. Also he cannot carry weapons during his 5 year probation and for all that they make him out to be, he has managed to stay well out of anything negative for the last three years. Yeah he broke a glass window, but think if he was really an angry black man, couldn't he have done worse???
Makeup does wonders. If you know so much, hey, why don't you run for Governor, and clean up our mess? 8-)
What I know isn't released to the press. It comes from either O.J.s Lawyer, or the D.A. itself. See, I have interesting friends.
As for Chris, as long as he sticks with the program, he'll avoid the Felony. Other wise, it will all revert to a Felony. You don't know what he's done; As Dr. Drew and other therapists have said, they don't know if the program really works; it hasn't been shone to work, if the two people get back together. It only works, if people stay apart.
Once an abuser = always an abuser, WITH that same person. It's called co-dependency, and it's like Fire & Ice together. They need to stay apart, for their own sanity.
Grandma Jackson knows the game - and she's doing an excellent job.
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Oh /overreacting/ no, what did I say that you would think I am acting that pompous. Governor? I am not even from the US and all that we hear this side of the world is that your Governors are puppets or fronts, actors whatever you want to call them. No offense at all - I never claimed to know your politics.
Do you know the inside of the Chris Brown case? I would love to know the details and you can PM mewith it if you want. I keep believing that Chris is not as evil as they make him out to be and the media just feeds more and more lies and blows everything out of proportion, so I would like to know the real truth, whatever it may be.
I don't know anything about the OJ case and I never mentioned him in any of my posts, so please don't single me out about that.
And lastly I do agree about makeup being able to do wonders and till someone proves otherwise - I firmly believe that the Rihanna pic released to the public is a made up version.
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This is going to haunt him forever, because people just don't want to let it go....move on...
If Rihanna still hated CB why would she do 2 songs with him...I mean he might as well just quit and live somewhere where no one can see him and judge him all the time....I don't understand why everyone's getting mad at him, it's not like he hit anyone else, like those constant abusive partners...you can get mad at him, but if you see someone like your neighbour getting abused or a person getting abused down the street (whether it is a couple or just another human being)...you have nothing to say, 'oh I will say what I want about Chris Brown, because everyone is bashing him, I might as well join in too', and yeah you can get angry and say all you wan't, I know it was/is wrong, but what are we trying to do, uphold the law and judge him...that has nothing to do with us....
....I mean you make conclusions (whether you think so or not) when you don't even know him, I don't know him and neither do you...we listen to what MJ says and say 'wow he has such a great outlook'...or there is something that he said you really took to heart (you say MJ isn't this or that, the media made it up, well yes they did but many people believe it, they believe it to this day...MJ said "don't judge a person until you have sat down and talked to the person one on one")...you agree with that comment..and then comes the hypocrisy (you might think what I said was rude, but someone has to say it)...I mean in other areas I'm hypocritical too, but wow, have we learnt anything at all?...I can't even read the comments on the vids or watch an interview without people saying things they have no place saying or just seeing his name or watching an interview, that's all I think about, because people can't stop talking about it, they push it down your throat, to make you 'thoughtless', that everything they say is right....
well I say 'take your crap somewhere else and burn it, your deceiving, you lie, your a hypocrite, you embarrass and drive people insane, even to the point of depression and even worse, you even bring yourself so low that even the ground is above you....and even though we know this about the media, we still read it and feed it...'
I mean people were so upset he got two gigs at the Grammy's and to get back at him, they used something that would stir things up and have people hate on him even more...I can't stand that, what is he the new target, someone to trash, because the rest of the stories don't penetrate as hard?....
Seriously, like what the hell? it's so annoying hearing about it every time his name comes up, yeah violence against women, but what about the other way around, or the fact we have no idea what happened that day...what if Rihanna hit Chris Brown and he had a cut lip with stitches...it would be swept under the rug or given justification...things are so twisted, that we are blinded and confused..and what will you say about that...nothing too, or 'their must be a reason', there always is a reason right...unbelievable.
He has no excuse for that, but neither do the people who have animosity toward him...
Also whether Katherine wants Paris in the video, if this is real, why should we say no or yes, we have nothing to do with them, we might be a member of this board, but that's it...remember when MJ was in the public eye or after he died how 'fans' were saying things of how they should be raised or what they should do....
I am sick, sick and tired of what the media is doing, the day it ends IS THE DAY, people will think for themselves and not let people think for them...that's all.
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Everything that happens in Hollywood is a joke,that i know.I dont have to live there to know the truth.The Media,Police,Courts,Coroners,etc etc ,are corupt and evil.Thats a fact.Money talks b.s. walks.If O.J. is guilty,like you say,then he must have paid a hefty fee,to be found not guilty.I was not there when Chris alledly hit Rhiana,were you.How do you know these things,are you just making assumptions.I take it you believe the story about him stealing that ladys cell phone too,huh.I am not the type,that believes something,if i did not see it mysef,people will say and do anything for the love of money,and racism is always a factor in Bollywood.
It wasn't made up... http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/03/05/brown.warrant.pdf
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Everything that happens in Hollywood is a joke,that i know.I dont have to live there to know the truth.The Media,Police,Courts,Coroners,etc etc ,are corupt and evil.Thats a fact.Money talks b.s. walks.If O.J. is guilty,like you say,then he must have paid a hefty fee,to be found not guilty.I was not there when Chris alledly hit Rhiana,were you.How do you know these things,are you just making assumptions.I take it you believe the story about him stealing that ladys cell phone too,huh.I am not the type,that believes something,if i did not see it mysef,people will say and do anything for the love of money,and racism is always a factor in Bollywood.
It wasn't made up... http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/03/05/brown.warrant.pdf
For some reason my cpu was not able to open that file.I am sorry maybe you misunderstood me.I have always believed that Chris was frammed by the Illumanati,regarding the Rhiana beating.Just because he was charged and giving probation,does not mean hes guilty.Another thing to consider is this happened on the same night as the Grammys,Clive Davis had a party going on as usual.This was a stupid ritual act.A trap to get Chris to join them.This was basically there way of showin him,what they are capable of,if you dont stay in your place.
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This is going to haunt him forever, because people just don't want to let it go....move on...
If Rihanna still hated CB why would she do 2 songs with him...I mean he might as well just quit and live somewhere where no one can see him and judge him all the time....I don't understand why everyone's getting mad at him, it's not like he hit anyone else, like those constant abusive partners...you can get mad at him, but if you see someone like your neighbour getting abused or a person getting abused down the street (whether it is a couple or just another human being)...you have nothing to say, 'oh I will say what I want about Chris Brown, because everyone is bashing him, I might as well join in too', and yeah you can get angry and say all you wan't, I know it was/is wrong, but what are we trying to do, uphold the law and judge him...that has nothing to do with us....
....I mean you make conclusions (whether you think so or not) when you don't even know him, I don't know him and neither do you...we listen to what MJ says and say 'wow he has such a great outlook'...or there is something that he said you really took to heart (you say MJ isn't this or that, the media made it up, well yes they did but many people believe it, they believe it to this day...MJ said "don't judge a person until you have sat down and talked to the person one on one")...you agree with that comment..and then comes the hypocrisy (you might think what I said was rude, but someone has to say it)...I mean in other areas I'm hypocritical too, but wow, have we learnt anything at all?...I can't even read the comments on the vids or watch an interview without people saying things they have no place saying or just seeing his name or watching an interview, that's all I think about, because people can't stop talking about it, they push it down your throat, to make you 'thoughtless', that everything they say is right....
well I say 'take your crap somewhere else and burn it, your deceiving, you lie, your a hypocrite, you embarrass and drive people insane, even to the point of depression and even worse, you even bring yourself so low that even the ground is above you....and even though we know this about the media, we still read it and feed it...'
I mean people were so upset he got two gigs at the Grammy's and to get back at him, they used something that would stir things up and have people hate on him even more...I can't stand that, what is he the new target, someone to trash, because the rest of the stories don't penetrate as hard?....
Seriously, like what the hell? it's so annoying hearing about it every time his name comes up, yeah violence against women, but what about the other way around, or the fact we have no idea what happened that day...what if Rihanna hit Chris Brown and he had a cut lip with stitches...it would be swept under the rug or given justification...things are so twisted, that we are blinded and confused..and what will you say about that...nothing too, or 'their must be a reason', there always is a reason right...unbelievable.
He has no excuse for that, but neither do the people who have animosity toward him...
Also whether Katherine wants Paris in the video, if this is real, why should we say no or yes, we have nothing to do with them, we might be a member of this board, but that's it...remember when MJ was in the public eye or after he died how 'fans' were saying things of how they should be raised or what they should do....
I am sick, sick and tired of what the media is doing, the day it ends IS THE DAY, people will think for themselves and not let people think for them...that's all.
Love this post,u put everything in a nutshell. /bravo/
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From what I've read in a few places, it was very likely O.J.’s son Jason who committed the murders and his Dad wanted to take the rap, why I don’t know. http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207 (http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207)
You know what our good friend Back also made a post stating that O.J s son was the one who murdered Nicole.Its amazing how people to this day thinks he is guilty.None of us can really know for sure cause we were not there to witness it.
I don't know if Chris is guilty or it was an Illuminati take-down, but his actions show that he really wants to better himself and learn his lesson well, or he is taking the punishment for ticking off his handlers. As far as Paris' career is going, she is in good hands, Katherine and Michael's.
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From what I've read in a few places, it was very likely O.J.’s son Jason who committed the murders and his Dad wanted to take the rap, why I don’t know. http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207 (http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207)
You know what our good friend Back also made a post stating that O.J s son was the one who murdered Nicole.Its amazing how people to this day thinks he is guilty.None of us can really know for sure cause we were not there to witness it.
I don't know if Chris is guilty or it was an Illuminati take-down, but his actions show that he really wants to better himself and learn his lesson well, or he is taking the punishment for ticking off his handlers. As far as Paris' career is going, she is in good hands, Katherine and Michael's.
From what I've read in a few places, it was very likely O.J.’s son Jason who committed the murders and his Dad wanted to take the rap, why I don’t know. http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207 (http://brproductions.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4207)
You know what our good friend Back also made a post stating that O.J s son was the one who murdered Nicole.Its amazing how people to this day thinks he is guilty.None of us can really know for sure cause we were not there to witness it.
I don't know if Chris is guilty or it was an Illuminati take-down, but his actions show that he really wants to better himself and learn his lesson well, or he is taking the punishment for ticking off his handlers. As far as Paris' career is going, she is in good hands, Katherine and Michael's.
So last year at GMA, when Robin Roberts asks him about Rihanna. He became a petulant little boy in the matter of seconds. Performs 1 song (he was suppose to perform 2 (he's unprofessional)), storms off back stage, yells at the show producers and then throw a chair at a window. He could have killed Rihanna that night, and if that chair flew out that window he could have critically injured somebody.
I do believe he is truly sorry for his actions. But he doesnt seem changed. His twitter melt downs (to me) suggest that he is sorry but he feels like he is also a victim. I do think the media likes to go hard on CB, but I think he asks for a lot of the attention he gets. To me, he needs true help. He doesnt seem like a bad kid, jus a kid that needs serious anger managment.
When he falls out of the lime light for a while, and makes music where he isnt calling women "bitches", and doesnt go on the typical twitter rant (which seems to happen every few months) Then I'll believe those are actions that has shown change. Not when he goes on twitter and tells his haters to "F off" now that he has a Grammy.
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Two points to make.Chris Brown did not beat Rhiana.Illimunati set up.O.J.did not kill his wife.Framed by crooked cops.Dont believe the media lies,and dont trust the corupt Judicial system.I believe M.J likes Chris,and he knows him a lot more than any of us.All the b.s. stories about him are made up,they are destroying his image the same way they did M.J,just in diffrent ways.The Illumanati has their hand prints all over that man.I dont believe none of the bad press surounding him.I think he is a good kid in a messed up sitituation.
How do you come up with this? We saw Rihanna, and OJ, pleeze, guilty as sin. I think for now Paris should be concentrating on her education and not Chris Brown and his videos. Chris Brown apologized for his actions but it still doen’t make them ok. She is a child and Chris is a grown man. I’ll leave it right there. I really don’t want to see Paris turn into another Paris, as in Hilton.
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ilovemjforever, the PDF link was a police report on the incident:
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Two points to make.Chris Brown did not beat Rhiana.Illimunati set up.O.J.did not kill his wife.Framed by crooked cops.Dont believe the media lies,and dont trust the corupt Judicial system.I believe M.J likes Chris,and he knows him a lot more than any of us.All the b.s. stories about him are made up,they are destroying his image the same way they did M.J,just in diffrent ways.The Illumanati has their hand prints all over that man.I dont believe none of the bad press surounding him.I think he is a good kid in a messed up sitituation.
How do you come up with this? We saw Rihanna, and OJ, pleeze, guilty as sin. I think for now Paris should be concentrating on her education and not Chris Brown and his videos. Chris Brown apologized for his actions but it still doen’t make them ok. She is a child and Chris is a grown man. I’ll leave it right there. I really don’t want to see Paris turn into another Paris, as in Hilton.
Dear,just because we saw Rhiana battered and bruised,does not prove that Chris beat her,or put those marks on her face.Do you know how powerful the Illumanati are.They have the power to stage these kind of things to make a celebrity look bad,then on top of that,make u admit to doing it.Chris is not the only celeb they have done this to.These people are evil,and they are very powerful.They do things like this to show u how much power they have,and force u to play by their rules.I am not saying Chris is peferct,but i know how the Illumanati work.
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Honestly, I think Chris Brown is innocent.
For anyone interested who hasn't read this yet, this was a theory I posted about a year and half ago, about what I think really went down that night.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=13727.0
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Firstly that is a trumped up version to obtain an arrest warrant. This is not the document filed at court. If it was the case would be thrown out on technical grounds.
Secondly, this is a hoax site, where no one believes what is published, or do you all believe the autopsy reports and other reports published in respect to the alleged death.
WE ARE HYPOCRITES, cos we don't judge everything and everyone with the same yard stick. Its either all lies or all the truth. You cannot choose according to whether the person influenced you or not.
And thirdly, what is society teaching you? Make a mistake and you better commit suicide cos no one will let you forget. Why do they have programs then, I say they should have death penalty for all celebrities however serious the crime is. They can at least be innocent of taking their own lives, let the law take it for them. But slow torture by condemning a person over and over again, is not justice in our hands. We will have to pay for what we do.
I know Chris rants, what do you expect him to do? Take drugs or drink to drown his sorrows? You want him to become another addict of our creation? Yes, let him rant, the negative energy has to be let out somehow. And he needed to say F U to the one person who was trying to tell people they need to shoot him, or did you not get the message that Miranda Lambert was giving him.
Lastly, I want to thank those who think a person should not be judged by one mistake that they make - believe that each one can change the world if they start with the man in the mirror.
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Firstly that is a trumped up version to obtain an arrest warrant. This is not the document filed at court. If it was the case would be thrown out on technical grounds.
Secondly, this is a hoax site, where no one believes what is published, or do you all believe the autopsy reports and other reports published in respect to the alleged death.
WE ARE HYPOCRITES, cos we don't judge everything and everyone with the same yard stick. Its either all lies or all the truth. You cannot choose according to whether the person influenced you or not.
And thirdly, what is society teaching you? Make a mistake and you better commit suicide cos no one will let you forget. Why do they have programs then, I say they should have death penalty for all celebrities however serious the crime is. They can at least be innocent of taking their own lives, let the law take it for them. But slow torture by condemning a person over and over again, is not justice in our hands. We will have to pay for what we do.
I know Chris rants, what do you expect him to do? Take drugs or drink to drown his sorrows? You want him to become another addict of our creation? Yes, let him rant, the negative energy has to be let out somehow. And he needed to say F U to the one person who was trying to tell people they need to shoot him, or did you not get the message that Miranda Lambert was giving him.
Lastly, I want to thank those who think a person should not be judged by one mistake that they make - believe that each one can change the world if they start with the man in the mirror.
He made multiple mistakes...the big question is: does the therapy he went through, actually works? No one really knows. That's the real problem. For now, he needs to keep with the program, and away from self-destructive behavior. And any behavior that can potentially classify him as a pedophile.
And for the record? I ain't no hypocrite; I keep it straight.
What disturbs me even more than CB, is all the women yammering to stand up for him, and come up with conspiracy theories, after he put on the big man's pants and took responsibility. Something happened in his family, where he felt this was proper behavior. This needs to be burned out of him, psychologically.
This has nothing to do with any world order, or any crud like that. Simple family basics. Like, you don't kick a dog to make it stop barking, either!
When women stop standing up for "one mistake," a man makes - then more women will STOP DYING for all the other mistakes violent men do.
I'd love, LOVE to see CB do something for victims of violent crimes by spouses, boyfriends. That's what would be great for his rep, too.
Ya hear me, brother!? DO IT! Don't be selfish - help the women's shelters of LA, and not just women who've got kids.
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Where did you get pedophile from?
And does the program recommend constant negative reminders from the public to work? Or people telling him he better die or that others should shoot or beat him up for it to be successful?
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Also, there aren't only women who are standing up for him or supporting him. There are quite a few men out there who think he needs a second chance, starting with the ones on his team. And me, I am not a girl spazzing over him, I think of him more as a child that needs nurturing not condemning.
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Honestly, I think Chris Brown is innocent.
For anyone interested who hasn't read this yet, this was a theory I posted about a year and half ago, about what I think really went down that night.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=13727.0
Thanks for the link Andrea.Thats a very interesting theory,Oddly enough i was thinking along the same lines.It makes perfect sense that someone beat her that night.Weird that crazy things like this always happens right before the Grammys.IMO Chris was the fall guy,for some one elses actions.This is how things work in Hollywood when youre dealing with the Illumanati.The sad thing is people fall for their b.s. over and over and over.Good to know that you and others see through the smoking screens.
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I agree with Tink. My cousin's boyfriend was drinking and driving and got in a car accident, which caused the death of another man. And he survived, but lost his arm. He made a terrible mistake, and he regrets it. Now, what he does is he goes to high schools and middle schools all over the east coast telling his story and convincing them not to ever drink and drive. To me, Chris has done nothing to make up for it except cry while singing Man in the Mirror.
And Simalves, I find it kind of offensive how you are telling all of us to forgive Chris for what he's done and calling us hypocrites like we've done something wrong for not liking him. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and before you start telling all of us to love him and forgive him after he has abused an innocent woman, you need to remember you don't know what we all have been through personally and you don't know if we or someone we know were victims of abuse like Rihanna.
P.S... Not once in this thread did I or anyone say Chris is a bad person and we should all hate him, I simply said I agreed with Katherine, and I have no sympathy for him after what he's done.
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Firstly that is a trumped up version to obtain an arrest warrant. This is not the document filed at court. If it was the case would be thrown out on technical grounds.
Secondly, this is a hoax site, where no one believes what is published, or do you all believe the autopsy reports and other reports published in respect to the alleged death.
WE ARE HYPOCRITES, cos we don't judge everything and everyone with the same yard stick. Its either all lies or all the truth. You cannot choose according to whether the person influenced you or not.
And thirdly, what is society teaching you? Make a mistake and you better commit suicide cos no one will let you forget. Why do they have programs then, I say they should have death penalty for all celebrities however serious the crime is. They can at least be innocent of taking their own lives, let the law take it for them. But slow torture by condemning a person over and over again, is not justice in our hands. We will have to pay for what we do.
I know Chris rants, what do you expect him to do? Take drugs or drink to drown his sorrows? You want him to become another addict of our creation? Yes, let him rant, the negative energy has to be let out somehow. And he needed to say F U to the one person who was trying to tell people they need to shoot him, or did you not get the message that Miranda Lambert was giving him.
Lastly, I want to thank those who think a person should not be judged by one mistake that they make - believe that each one can change the world if they start with the man in the mirror.
He made multiple mistakes...the big question is: does the therapy he went through, actually works? No one really knows. That's the real problem. For now, he needs to keep with the program, and away from self-destructive behavior. And any behavior that can potentially classify him as a pedophile.
And for the record? I ain't no hypocrite; I keep it straight.
What disturbs me even more than CB, is all the women yammering to stand up for him, and come up with conspiracy theories, after he put on the big man's pants and took responsibility. Something happened in his family, where he felt this was proper behavior. This needs to be burned out of him, psychologically.
This has nothing to do with any world order, or any crud like that. Simple family basics. Like, you don't kick a dog to make it stop barking, either!
When women stop standing up for "one mistake," a man makes - then more women will STOP DYING for all the other mistakes violent men do.
I'd love, LOVE to see CB do something for victims of violent crimes by spouses, boyfriends. That's what would be great for his rep, too.
Ya hear me, brother!? DO IT! Don't be selfish - help the women's shelters of LA, and not just women who've got kids.
Actually i am the kind of person that stands up for the truth.It does not matter if you are black or white male or female.Its not like i saw C.B beat Rhiana,that would be a different story.I have not seen a ounce of evidence that suggests,he is guilty as charged.Just because something is reported by the Media,does not make it true.I am supporting Chris because i dont believe he is guilty of abusing Rhiana.
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I agree with Tink. My cousin's boyfriend was drinking and driving and got in a car accident, which caused the death of another man. And he survived, but lost his arm. He made a terrible mistake, and he regrets it. Now, what he does is he goes to high schools and middle schools all over the east coast telling his story and convincing them not to ever drink and drive. To me, Chris has done nothing to make up for it except cry while singing Man in the Mirror.
And Simalves, I find it kind of offensive how you are telling all of us to forgive Chris for what he's done and calling us hypocrites like we've done something wrong for not liking him. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and before you start telling all of us to love him and forgive him after he has abused an innocent woman, you need to remember you don't know what we all have been through personally and you don't know if we or someone we know were victims of abuse like Rihanna.
P.S... Not once in this thread did I or anyone say Chris is a bad person and we should all hate him, I simply said I agreed with Katherine, and I have no sympathy for him after what he's done.
NOOOO!
I never asked anyone to love him or forgive him. I just say don't believe what you read in the media, or if you do don't spread the negativity. I am on twitter and I see the vilifying tweets posted every minute or so and I am sick of it. I also see the frequency of negative articles published and copied by other news outlets. Its stifling for anyone who is trying to change and get over their mistakes.
This article that the OP posted is an example. Its complete trash, never really happened at all. They just wanted to vilify him from a different angle, from MJ or his family, cos everyone knows that MJ liked him and supported him. So what do they expect? MJ to come out and say, no he lets Paris like him or post videos of her miming or dancing to Chris' songs. Or the bad guys force Paris to star in a video, just to prove that MJ's family really supports Chris and other black artists that are being wrongfully condemned. Do you remember that Chris was even scheduled to be part of the UK tribute but his probation interfered with his visa. Did Mrs Jackson condemn him then? The article just managed to pit the Jacksons against Chris and make everyone believe Chris is more guilty of his crime.
Also did anyone not read my first post, I am a victim too, a serious case I may add. And I believe that only if you are dependent on a perpetrator, you will go back to them. Many women are not financially independent or they have lost all confidence because of the abuse and that keeps them tied to their attacker, cos they value the little that they get from him. I don't think an independent person, one who is financially stable, has a great entourage, even has had small relationships in the last few years, is likely to go back if she was so badly wronged. People have to realise that the message she is sending out, is that she does not believe he was that much to blame in the first place. You can't even say she depends on Chris to help her get her records sold, cos she has some of the best in the industry on her side, it makes no sense her going back.
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Chris' new music video. Pretty obvious tribute to Michael or he's just copying him in a very obvious way! Note the Pig Mask at the beginning! And those signs in the cab. Weren't they symbols we saw before?
It's a get up and dance video, that's for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQWG8BVeryU&ob=av2e
So, he's either truly friendly with the Michael camp and part of the hoax, or he's in your face insulting to Mike.