Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2012 => Topic started by: Adi on February 14, 2012, 02:04:04 AM
-
1 Corinthians 13:13
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-13.htm
-
lol Jono and I posted the same topic within seconds of each other - literally......
Can a Moderator merge the 2 threads please (or whatever it is that happens)
Thanks.
-
lol Jono and I posted the same topic within seconds of each other - literally......
Can a Moderator merge the 2 threads please (or whatever it is that happens)
Thanks.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-
done ;)
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Happy Valentine's!
-
1 Corinthians 13
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
http://niv.scripturetext.com/1_corinthians/13-8.htm
LOVE & happy Valentine's Day! bearhug
-
nice redirect on Valentines day
Happy Valentine's TS bearhug
-
bearhug
-
Love plays such an important role in the relationship with God and others that without him all efforts are useless. The most visible spiritual gifts cannot replace love. The noblest works lose their meaning if they are not inspired by love.
Love is the greatest virtue and necessary, happy day of love for all bearhug
-
Indeed the greatest is love.......if the world would only listen to that and take it to heart. I wish you all a very Happy Valentine's Day....or just a very Happy Love Day : )
(http://thevinethatwrites.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/heart-2.jpg)
Great re-direct TS....thank you!
-
Faith, Hope, LOVE :)
"All you need is love, doobadoobadoo..."
...love you all... Happy Valentine's Day bearhug
(...may there be love on every other day of the year... don't forget...)
-
1 Corinthians 13:8 (first sentence)
Love Never Fails
-
My all-time favourit. Thanks for reminding us.
1 Corinthians 13
1 If I speak in the tongues[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV#fen-NIV-28667a)] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13&version=NIV#fen-NIV-28669b)] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
-
I'm wishing Mike and everyone here a VERY happy day of love...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEbDUP_u44vcIh4VoPwpwGNr9iE8dNJ1TVbgE8ZgWvDv-dUNIjew)
@Grace...thank you for posting the verses from 1-13....verse 13 sums it up perfectly and beautifully, while the verses before it are filled with beauty in detail, language, and love. Anyone can say what they will about the Bible (I know I have)...but no one can deny the absolute exquisiteness and beauty of the language of many of the 'writers' (it's poetry on crack lol). Who talks or writes that like anymore? Better yet, who truly KNOWS and lives that kinda love in their daily lives? What a world it would be if we KNEW that kind of love! I hope and pray to God that Mike---or at this point, anyone lol...but I SO hope it's Mike ::P----(with the help of God) is gonna help the world KNOW that kind of love.
Although I've read this passage many times before and have always loved it on so many levels....having read it again just now was like reading/seeing it for the first time (in essence, it was the first time this 'me' read it.....'me' is always changing lol). Verse 12 especially struck a chord with me....
12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
....in light of this part of Front's poem:
Parallel lives, parallel paths
And for so long a one-way looking glass
In the mysterious depths of time and space
Footsteps converge to reveal a face
The mirror, no more a one-way reflection
Wiped free of smudges and deception
How I long for that day of transformation…
The floodgates of my mind are open....and I'm 'all in' for love.
With L.O.V.E. always.
-
Happy Valentines Day to TS and to all of you. bearhug
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AXQe9Yqhh9Y/TNaiHFBqQoI/AAAAAAAADH8/ftLT8wC_O6o/s1600/faith-hope-love.jpg)
-
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/myrickman/Rain/t15.jpg)
Front said
The dark clouds will part…..horizons shall <<---e-x-p-a-n-d--->> and the glory of L.O.V.E. will rain down upon them quenching their souls.
Indeed let LOVE reign.
Happy LOVE day family
-
This just brought tears to my eyes. You can just FEEL the L.O.V.E. can't you? And who has taught us more about Faith, Hope and Love than Michael? Happy Valentines Day to you, Michael, wherever you are. And big shout out of LOVE to everyone on this forum for helping to keep me upright through the past couple of years.
-
Thank you TS and Happy Valentine's Day! What a wonderful reminder... it's all for L.O.V.E.
What I also love is the page TS redirected to (not his usual Bible Gateway) so maybe he wanted us to get a FULL understanding. On that page we have all the different translations of the Bible. Note, the message is the SAME. There are also cross references on the right hand side and commentaries further down the page. All this to help us really grasp what it is to love. Truly love one another.
Just sharing a couple things with you on this topic of love:
Here's a post I found last year on the scientific need for love:
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/scientific-need-for-love/
Here's some personal study notes of mine on love:
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/what-is-love/
Hopefully this blesses you all on this LOVE day!
Thanks again TS for thinking of us!
-
Happy Valentine´s day everybody.
Never forget......
(http://www.polomecommunications.com/unfinishedwork/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/faith-hope-love-sm1.jpg)
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6wn8SZmsg LOVE!!!
-
Thank you TS for the re-direct, may you always be blessed with True Love.
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lckgeiWE8W1qeihu4o1_500.jpg)
True Love = God’s Love
Thank you everyone for your love-filled posts, so sweet. ;))
I loved your picture Wishingstar, it reminds me so much of my childhood. Thank you to have posted it.
A dear sister of mine wrote a little poem and I want to share it with you. It’s simple, so beautiful and true:
“When with passing time the world breaks us down
Hope is the only thing that lifts us up
And when our minds become a dark tangled web of confusion
It is Faith that leads us to the light once again
And finally when all the illusions have faded away
We will see that true Love was always waiting to embrace us”
On this Love day, here’s a never-fading rose for each one of you, my hoax family members...
(http://photos.weddingbycolor.com/p/000/017/570/m/105983/p/photo/286499.jpg)
God bless you all. bearhug
-
Now wait just a second...
one could insinuate that that slogan is stating that atheists live loveless lives... which I'm here to tell you ain't true.
-
Sorry bec, I had no intention to offend you or anyone else who is an atheist. I base my knowledge on this scriptural verse:
New International Version (©1984)
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
1John 4:16
We can say that this is simply what people who believe in God accept and experience -- a point of view. I am not minimising your understanding of “Love”. I say this in all humility and with due respect.
P.S: The word "God" to me represents that magnificent, benevolent, gracious, merciful, and compassionate "force" or "energy" that is omnipresent and omniscient in our Cosmos.
-
Happy Valentines Day to TS & Michael, and all my MJFAM on this board. <333 :mrgreen: bearhug (http://bestsmileys.com/love1/4.gif)
-
Sorry bec, I had no intention to offend you or anyone else who is an atheist. I base my knowledge on this scriptural verse:
New International Version (©1984)
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
1John 4:16
We can say that this is simply what people who believe in God accept and experience -- a point of view. I am not minimising your understanding of “Love”. I say this in all humility and with due respect.
P.S: The word "God" to me represents that magnificent, benevolent, gracious, merciful, and compassionate "force" or "energy" that is omnipresent and omniscient in our Cosmos.
It's interesting that from my perspective, the verse says the exact opposite of the popular adage you posted.
The verse says to me, Know Love, Know God. No Love, no God// which is worlds apart in meaning from the conventional accepted interpretation.
I know you didn't make up the saying, it's a popular one among Christians, but now that I know the verse it refers to, it seems another example of scripture being twisted and tainted to extract exclusionary and segregating interpretations, elevating Christians above all other peoples.
Because the popular version, that you posted, says to me that if you don't accept God, you are bad. The scripture says to me that if you know love, you already know God, just like that, because the emotion you feel when you feel love is God's love coming from within you.
Anyway, that's just my impression of it all. Again, for whatever it is worth.
-
I'm wishing Mike and everyone here a VERY happy day of love...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEbDUP_u44vcIh4VoPwpwGNr9iE8dNJ1TVbgE8ZgWvDv-dUNIjew)
@Grace...thank you for posting the verses from 1-13....verse 13 sums it up perfectly and beautifully, while the verses before it are filled with beauty in detail, language, and love. Anyone can say what they will about the Bible (I know I have)...but no one can deny the absolute exquisiteness and beauty of the language of many of the 'writers' (it's poetry on crack lol). Who talks or writes that like anymore? Better yet, who truly KNOWS and lives that kinda love in their daily lives? What a world it would be if we KNEW that kind of love! I hope and pray to God that Mike---or at this point, anyone lol...but I SO hope it's Mike ::P----(with the help of God) is gonna help the world KNOW that kind of love.
Although I've read this passage many times before and have always loved it on so many levels....having read it again just now was like reading/seeing it for the first time (in essence, it was the first time this 'me' read it.....'me' is always changing lol). Verse 12 especially struck a chord with me....
12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
....in light of this part of Front's poem:
Parallel lives, parallel paths
And for so long a one-way looking glass
In the mysterious depths of time and space
Footsteps converge to reveal a face
The mirror, no more a one-way reflection
Wiped free of smudges and deception
How I long for that day of transformation…
The floodgates of my mind are open....and I'm 'all in' for love.
With L.O.V.E. always.
@BeTheChange, nice post. It's so easy to become cynical and jaded when we live in a world facing an epidemic of conditional love, which is not really love at all. And I, also, look forward to the transformation that lies ahead. I send you and all my hoax family a Happy Valentine's Day wish for the real thing.
-
Angel
It's so easy to become cynical and jaded when we live in a world facing an epidemic of conditional love, which is not really love at all.
Is God's love really unconditional?
Matthew 7:20-23 (Jesus' words)
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Yes, I believe it is--divine love for EVERY human that ever lived! Apply 1 Corinthians 13 to God, and EVERY human has to be loved! Many have just lost their way like stupid sheep, but Perfect love will restore and heal them, and this planet!
Isaiah 53:6
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us ALL.
Because as you say, "Conditional love is not really love at all".
-
Love to you all :)
-
L.O.V.E.... that's all we need! ;^)
Happy Day to all soldiers!
-
Happy Valentine's day Family...I am working on a post, but will have to finish it tomorrow, but just wanted to make sure I said Happy V day to all tonight!! I LOVE you all so very much!!!
Some great posts on here /bravo/ /bravo/
see you all tomorrow...sweet dreams Mikey! :mrgreen: LOVE ya!
bearhug
-
L.O.V.E.... that's all we need! ;^)
Happy Day to all soldiers!
Awesome! Thank you Yambo3003!!!!
bearhug
-
Anyway, that's just my impression of it all. Again, for whatever it is worth.
Bec, just wanted to say your opinions/impressions are worth a lot. I too saw Sarahli's 'Know God Know Love, No God No Love' post and thought, hey that's the wrong way round! So I agree with you that 'love' comes first, there can surely be no knowing God, in all the complexities of whatever that may mean, without it. bearhug And one for you too Sarahli! bearhug
-
Love to you all :)
Thanks Ford,
I love the picture you posted, it's beautiful!
and love to you too bearhug
-
I love you Michael.
-
This was the re-direct for Feb 14, 2011....I remember it well:
http://www.crosscards.com/cards/love-1/many-waters-cannot-quench-love/send.html
Here is the thread about it:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=17851.0
Just interesting to look back.......
Blessings
-
Hey yeah, wow, wishingstar, it is indeed interesting to look back. I had to check the username twice:
Is this about the flood TS?
Water is the provider of all life and it is the most powerful element on earth. Water extinguishes fire. Water can erode even solid stone over time.
Water is necessary for all life on earth. Not enough and life ceases to exist.
But the flood was a great over abundance of water and it nearly destroyed all life on earth. Except for the ark, and a few survivors who headed the warnings and rode out the flood.
"For 40 days and for 40 nights the law was on her side... but who can stand when she's in demand with her schemes n' plans" -- dropped from TII Billy Jean
40 days and 40 nights of rain caused the great flood. Noah headed the warnings from God and built an ark on dry land despite the jeers and mocking from his peers, the heathens (lol), and when the flood came, he and his family and loved ones were safely on board. The flood wiped out all life on earth except for Noah and his crew, who rode out the flood, and repopulated the earth afterward.
40 days and 40 nights Moses and his people wandered the desert after walking out of Egypt. To escape, Moses parted the Red Sea allowing his people to walk to safety, and the sea swallowed the Pharaoh's army and drowned them. After walking to safety across the sea, the people turned away from God and worshiped a false idol, the golden cow, and were banished to the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, were given the 10 commandments from the burning bush, ate manna from heaven to survive, and were finally admonished into Israel, the holy land (? shaky on that last bit).
So who's on the ark and who's wandering the desert? Or am I just over hoaxed again?
-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Mrc2l1d0&feature=related[/youtube]
I was around 11 years old when I first heard of Michael Jackson. This song brings back happy carefree memories when life was somewhat blissful. I fell in love with this great singer/artist. Fast forward 33 years and here I am full circle right back where I started. respect/
Who would of thought we/I would be on an adventure of a lifetime. As of today I have learned more from the last 2 years than any expensive college would teach me.
I thank you all for being on this ride with me. I can't wait to see how this ends.
Hello TS. bearhug
-
I am still fascinated with this re-direct. Being that it's one of my very favorite verses, I am struck by one thought with it right now. Why did TS re-direct to this particular Bible site? We have seen BibleGateway.com before. I am not totally sure we have seen this site. It seems familiar to me. However, it might be my own searching that lead me to it before now.
What I find interesting, and why I think TS used this site for this verse in particular is there are many translations of the different Bibles, all on the main page. Here it is so you can easily see it:
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-13.htm
With BibleGateway.com you see the verse fine, however, you need to search to find different translations:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+13:13&version=NIV
While it's easy enough to search the site for the translations, it's even easier to see them on the site TS used. They are all right in front of our eyes. When I see the bible.cc page, I see instantly that one thing can be translated many, many different ways, yet they all mean the same thing. Plus, if you scroll down the site there is really good commentary provided. It's really interesting to read these views.
This bible.cc site is a perfect demonstration of how words from many sources can mean the same thing. It's this forum with a bow on it! We have so many different view points, so many different translations of what this hoax is or is not. Yet, at the end of the day....we still have the main idea to mean the same. In other words, we all think differently and still come up with the same ending.....hoax. That's why TS used that site in particular......we are all different, yet we are one.
I have come to determine that Love is the greatest because it's the only true gift from God, in my opinion. Faith and Hope are man-developed feelings....you need love to justify having either of them in your heart. But, Love can survive without Faith and Hope....people loose those all the time, yet still have Love, still have charity in their hearts. For me, it's God's perfect gift.
One other interesting side-note about this site......it lists 18 different sources or versions of this verse. 18 has been a reoccurring number here.....I instantly remember Murray's shirt with 18 on it. Sim......didn't you do an 18 montage? I seem to recall something like that.
Anyways.....just thinking out loud really. I was struck by the "why this site?" question and here I am, lol.
Hey, this was post-tea, but pre-coffee....what can I say : )
Have a beautiful day....Sim, you and all of Romania remain in my thoughts and prayers....love you all so much!
Blessings Always
-
@Wish...thanks for sharing your thoughts on the redirect. Your post reminded me of what Front said in his last post:
[...]Do not let the religious beliefs/interpretations of others "derail your hoax train", so to speak. There are many constituents (beliefs) of the same train---each car (individual) is connected and rides along the same track---together as ONE.
[...]
Keep an open mind, listen, observe, share your thoughts…..it's okay to disagree. Isn't it wonderful when people who have opposing beliefs share and learn from each other? It's one of the most powerful things in the world!--- AND, one that ultimately converges on the same path…even if we don't realize it's happening at that tIME. HIndsight truly IS 20/20.[...]
I think you may be right about why TS chose that site, when (from what I can recall), we've been usually sent to BibleGateway which shows ONE interpretation/translation when the redirect is clicked. That, to me, really ties in with what Front posted about on a few levels; it shows that there are (or can be) many translations/interpretations of the exact same thing (we are each unique and will therefore SEE things differently)....but that in itself (our uniqueness/differences) should be regarded as a thing of beauty, not something to separate us but something to share. In the end, no matter the interpretation/translation...the 'truth' remains and that 'truth' is love.
I absolutely LOVE reading everyone's thoughts/feelings about anything...especially when they differ from my own. There have been many times in my life when I would get 'bothered' because others couldn't SEE what I was seeing (times when I was bothered by different interpretations because they didn't 'fit' mine)...and there are still some things that I am SO passionate about that cause me to throw up that handy-dandy 'wall' I built for myself over the years lol (we all have one....some higher than others lol). But the more I learn and the more I grow...I see that that 'wall' (that 'stumbling block' denying openness of mind) is simply a 'disorder' placing ego ahead of spirit. It is NOT in our spirit to place OUR interpretation(s) or ourselves over anyone else (we are ALL children on the journey of learning <---ties in with picking one of the 'low' rooms)...but it IS in our spirit to share and help and console and remove 'stumbling blocks' whenever we can...for ourselves and for others.
It's HIgh tIME that 'ego' gets kicked to the curb....only then can true spirit shine through.
@Sim...you and yours are with me in thought and prayer.
With L.O.V.E. always.
-
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-13.htm
"And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality.... I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
I was searching through my fav quotes and found this one of Martin Luther King and I decided to post it in this redirect, although I think that this quote can be connected to front's post in the February 10th redirect as well, because it's all about Love bow/
Do not lose hope and faith in people and their ability and will to change, keep believing in unity and peace and that truth and unconditional love will prevail.
L.O.V.E.
-
Agreed with wishingstar. I noticed that as well, and also agree the redirect to a page listing multiple different, yet fundamentally similar translations was strategic.
-
@ BTC....there you go again, LOL....you have a way of putting things that even when I am trying to explain my OWN thoughts...I understand YOU better.....OMGosh, that makes no sense does it....but it's funny nonetheless. Thank you so much for the post...
Love ya!
@ everlastinglove_Mj....a million times yes! What a great quote.....I also love to search quotes on things. Again, it's another interpretation of what I might be thinking at the time. I really appreciate you posting that...thank you! Love ya too!
@ bec....whew! For some stupid reason, I was nervous in posting this, I didn't want to seem insensitive at all ..... or ever. I really appreciate your input on things. The whole God = Love, thing is my personal bag....I totally get that we all have our different bags, so to speak : ) I really, really appreciate you sharing your views and your knowledge of things...you're awesome! Thank you! Love ya too!
Thanks guys... I think my second cup of coffee is now kicking in, lol.
Have a beautiful day!
LOVE
-
I don't know if this is just me but when I saw 1 Corinthians 13:13 I automatically googled 'january 13 2013'. I got results such as "WILL THE EARTH stop rotating on Jan 13th 2013????" and "The Coming Death of Rev. Moon on January 13th, 2013?". Maybe this is just a coincidence?
-
I WANT MICHAEL NOT HOPE.
WHEN I SOMETIMES IMAGINE MICHAEL'S COME BACK, REACTION OF THE WORLD, AUTHORITIES, BAD GUYS.....I GET GOOSEBUMPS. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN? SO, I WANT THAT DAY BADLY, MORE THAN FAITH AND LOVE. /scream/
-
Hmm, interesting I don't think it's true however. It said by Summer 2011 there will be 38 hours in a day, and that didn't happen...
-
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
moonwalk_/