Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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Joe Jackson Hocks Perfume in Tacky Mall (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/03/joe-jackson-perfume-michael-jackson-lawsuit-bravado/#.TyvUqyPRMcu)
2/3/2012 12:40 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
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Joe Jackson must have been having an out-of-body experience Friday ... the man who played the role of marionette to one of the most successful musical groups ever spent the day hocking cheap perfume at a Las Vegas mall.
Joe was the special guest at the Julian Rouas Paris kiosk, which is hocking "Jackson Perfumes." A famous sketch of Michael Jackson looms large amidst the perfumes.
And the whole operation may be illegal.
As TMZ previously reported -- Bravado International -- which owns the trademark to all things Michael Jackson -- is suing Julian Rouas Paris (http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/09/michael-jackson-perfume-scent-cologne-joe-jacksno-cannes-lawsuit-bravado-international-julian-rouas-paris/), alleging the company never got permission to use Michael's name or image.
But that didn't stop Joe, although it appears he dozed off during the slow period.
The good news ... there's no line if you want an autograph.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/02/0202-joe-jackson-stand-tmz-sub.jpg)
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Joe Jackson Hocks Perfume in Tacky Mall (http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/03/joe-jackson-perfume-michael-jackson-lawsuit-bravado/#.TyvUqyPRMcu)
2/3/2012 12:40 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/02/0202-joe-jackson-stand-tmz-ex-wm.jpg)
Joe Jackson must have been having an out-of-body experience Friday ... the man who played the role of marionette to one of the most successful musical groups ever spent the day hocking cheap perfume at a Las Vegas mall.
Joe was the special guest at the Julian Rouas Paris kiosk, which is hocking "Jackson Perfumes." A famous sketch of Michael Jackson looms large amidst the perfumes.
And the whole operation may be illegal.
As TMZ previously reported -- Bravado International -- which owns the trademark to all things Michael Jackson -- is suing Julian Rouas Paris (http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/09/michael-jackson-perfume-scent-cologne-joe-jacksno-cannes-lawsuit-bravado-international-julian-rouas-paris/), alleging the company never got permission to use Michael's name or image.
But that didn't stop Joe, although it appears he dozed off during the slow period.
The good news ... there's no line if you want an autograph.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/02/0202-joe-jackson-stand-tmz-sub.jpg)
PATHETIC but in a bad way lol lolol/ ,and I feel really sorry for this man, cause all he cares is MONEY,MONEY and MONEY again >:( .It is just me or Joe always looks like an older pimp :shock: :lol: ?
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WTF?? ???
That's all I can say about this.
I don't like it.
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So the guy sitting down is supposed to be Joe? I can't see him clearly. Does anyone know if there are clear pictures of him doing this?
I think something smells, lol. Michael, what are you up to now??
Blessings Always
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I really don't get why Joe would do this. He should stay at home, he's in his 80s, why can't he just enjoy the time he still has?
Why would he look for trouble with the Estate anyway?
People want the real deal...not Joe's perfumes.
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I really don't get why Joe would do this. He should stay at home, he's in his 80s, why can't he just enjoy the time he still has?
This is the best answer hahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks Gina
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Yes, the picture is too blurry to recognize Joe. I wonder if Joe is really involved, there's no proof though.
Anyways, it is respectless to fight over Michael's legacy, like he is some sort of product >:(, but that is my personal opinion and I guess I will never be a sly business woman :lol:. This reminds me of an article I've been reading some time ago:
Cashing in on Michael’s Legacy
Jul 15, 2009 8:00 PM EDT
Licensing deals could earn the Jackson estate hundreds of millions. But will his legacy be exploited for the potential windfall?
Whose lifestyle was more outlandish: Michael Jackson or Andy Warhol? For many of us it seems like a tossup. But Michael Stone believes Jackson has the edge—and Stone should know. For eight years, until recently, he served as a consultant to the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, helping them commercialize the art icon's legacy. Warhol, with his signature choppy white mane, was known for surrounding himself with "a menagerie of porn stars, drag queens, drug addicts, musicians and free-thinkers," according to Wikipedia. One of the most influential artists of his times, Warhol, called the "Pope of Pop," was "not the most conventional personality," says Stone. Yet Stone was able to help the Warhol Foundation, which controls the copyright to all of the artist's work, amass an endowment exceeding $240 million (proceeds go to supporting the arts) from licensing deals.
Thanks to Stone, Warhol, who died 22 years ago, lives on in Andy Warhol Union Square eau de parfum ($195 an ounce); Seiko Warhol watches ($35 to $300); as well as magnets, calendars, home furnishings, and handbags. He believes the lifestyle of the "King of Pop," a.k.a. Michael Jackson—with his physical transformation, his Neverland ranch, and his odd parenting theories—is more bizarre even than Warhol's. Yet Stone marvels at the prospects for commercializing Jackson's legacy. Stone, the top executive of Beanstalk, the branding subsidiary of global ad giant Omnicom, has represented Mohammed Ali and currently advises, among others, Ashley and Mary-Kate Olsen. He talked to NEWSWEEK's Johnnie L. Roberts about whether he thinks Michael Jackson's legacy will be exploited like Elvis Presley's or guarded like John Lennon's.
How did you get involved with the Warhol Foundation?
For many years, we represented Coca-Cola Co. And there came an opportunity to seek out rights to use the Andy Warhol artwork of the Coke can and bottle. In that instance, Coca-Cola owns the copyrights to the Coca-Cola trademark, and Andy Warhol owned the rights to the artwork itself. Neither side could exploit the artwork without the consent of the other. So we sought out the rights from the foundation, and that's how we were introduced to the Andy Warhol Foundation. Subsequently, they hired us to develop licensing programs—the rights to use his work, signature and things like that.
Tell me about the strategy that you helped devise.
It basically was to leverage the archives and to develop products that would be targeted more at an upscale channel of distribution. So products you would find in department stores, for example, not mass merchants. And the concept was to focus on certain categories like products for the home, apparel, accessories, health and beauty products, accessories like watches and jewelry, things like that. And it's basically a worldwide strategy—40 licensees in over 55 countries. One licensee could be making 10, 20, 30 different products. We, for example, recommended Robert Lee Morris as the jewelry licensee. There are many, many pieces of jewelry in the Andy Warhol Collection at Robert Lee Morris.
How does the Warhol experience relate to what we will see unfolding with Michael Jackson? What's your sense of the scale of the commercialization in his case?
As a branding specialist, it's the most fascinating thing to see unfold. The first thing that has to be determined is, who owns what? And who's controlling what? Because right now you've got counterfeiters all over the place. Nobody can really stop it because nobody is in control of the rights right now. I don't know if that will be easy to get through, or whether there will be a lot of fighting about it to determine who owns what rights. That was not an issue in Warhol's case. That will be a major issue in the Michael Jackson case.
How difficult and how long might it take to settle that matter?
It could be resolved quickly. Or it could takes years. It's not just one set of rights. There are music rights. There are album-cover rights. There are television rights. There are rights to his name, likeness, image, and signature. There are so many different rights floating around. Then whoever controls the rights will have to decide how they want to commercialize Michael Jackson.
So give me some idea about the scope of possibilities for turning his legacy into income.
The spectrum begins at Elvis Presley on one end, where people are barely listening to his music anymore, and his legacy is basically the theme park, Graceland, in Memphis; a whole bunch of impersonators in clubs across America; and a slew of merchandise, from T shirts to belt buckles to baseball hats. On the other extreme, there's another revolutionary musician, John Lennon, whose image and legacy has been protected by his estate, and who is known for his music and his ideals, with very little other commercialization being done against that image. So those are the two ends of the spectrum, and I'm beginning to get a feeling about where Michael Jackson is going to fall. Quite honestly, even though I'm a licensing guy, it's a shame.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/07/15/cashing-in-on-michael-s-legacy.html
L.O.V.E.
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that display is lovely, perhaps they'd do better to sell that :lol:
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Is that really Joe Jackson? I could be wrong, but I dont think its him.
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Do not start Joe bashing. It's not ok here.
Michael has a plan. Let's be respectful of it.
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Do not start Joe bashing. It's not ok here.
Michael has a plan. Let's be respectful of it.
I agree!!! After all he is Michaels father !!!!!
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Do not start Joe bashing. It's not ok here.
Michael has a plan. Let's be respectful of it.
I agree!!! After all he is Michaels father !!!!!
I assume that these comments are product of boredom ....
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I honestly don't think that's Joe. He doesn't wear a hat like that, and that guy's too slim. I don't think Joe would stoop to doing that anyway. No way, he's got some class.
Everlastinglove_MJ, interesting in your article whether MJ’s legacy will be over-kill like Elvis or restricted like Lennon. I hardly see any MJ products around anywhere. I would buy more if I saw more, but there's practically nothing. But maybe that drives up prices, which is good for the estate.
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This isn't part of any plan - it looks more like people trying to take advantage of Michael's parents, actually. And from what I could see? NO; that wasn't Joe. That's the Media for you, sheesh!
Here's two articles -
JRP never licensed Michael's likeness, btw:
http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/09/michael-jackson-perfume-scent-cologne-joe-jacksno-cannes-lawsuit-bravado-international-julian-rouas-paris/#.TyxBkd1Vclo
http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/20/michael-jackson-howard-mann-lawsuit-copyright-lawsuit-suit-trademark/#.TyxCDd1Vclo
It's vultures, taking advantage of both parents, unfortunately. This is why Branca is in charge.
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I really don't get why Joe would do this. He should stay at home, he's in his 80s, why can't he just enjoy the time he still has?
Why would he look for trouble with the Estate anyway?
People want the real deal...not Joe's perfumes.
You just killed me, Gina! Hahahaha
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Joe Jackson must have been having an out-of-body experience Friday
I wonder why this allegory? Maybe I'm too tired to understand lol... anyway it doesn't seem to be Joe sitting there. We can't be sure who that can be, the picture's too blurry.
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Joe Jackson must have been having an out-of-body experience Friday
I wonder why this allegory? Maybe I'm too tired to understand lol... anyway it doesn't seem to be Joe sitting there. We can't be sure who that can be, the picture's too blurry.
Maybe because he is used to getting attention and he´s used to having crowds around him...which did allegedly not happen in this case.
We don´t know if it´s Joe in the picture sitting there quite lonesome. We only know that he indeed launched a perfume in a mall in Las Vegas.
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Joe Jackson must have been having an out-of-body experience Friday
I wonder why this allegory? Maybe I'm too tired to understand lol... anyway it doesn't seem to be Joe sitting there. We can't be sure who that can be, the picture's too blurry.
Maybe because he is used to getting attention and he´s used to having crowds around him...which did allegedly not happen in this case.
We don´t know if it´s Joe in the picture sitting there quite lonesome. We only know that he indeed launched a perfume in a mall in Las Vegas.
Okay I see, yes probably. geek/
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I really don't get why Joe would do this. He should stay at home, he's in his 80s, why can't he just enjoy the time he still has?
Why would he look for trouble with the Estate anyway?
People want the real deal...not Joe's perfumes.
As TMZ previously reported -- Bravado International -- which owns the trademark to all things Michael Jackson -- is suing Julian Rouas Paris, alleging the company never got permission to use Michael's name or image.
What do the executors doing about this? If I am not mistaken they are the ONLY ONES authorised to use Michael's name and are responsible for his estate.
And what about "the man who played the role of marionette" part,lol that no one noticed in that article :roll: :mrgreen: ?
"Marionette"?? Does anyone edit this stuff?He was the Puppet-Master, not the marionette...for God sake lolol/ .
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"Out of body experience" ? hummm.... ???/
This whole TMZ article is cryptic! like they all are! Nothing is as it seems!
But what is it then? (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Reflexion/doh%21-45.gif)
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Apparently, TMZ has not reported the true story according to Taaj Malik...........look at this: and she is the only one stading next to Joe in the main photo posted in the article......
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Apparently, TMZ has not reported the true story according to Taaj Malik...........look at this: and she is the only one stading next to Joe in the main photo posted in the article......
afraid/ IF this is true ,TMZ is :evil: we have to crash/ crash/ crash/ and joe sorry
Thanks 2good2btrue bearhug
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TMZ is in on the hoax. I have no doubt!
They always wrote what seemed to be shitty articles about Mj ... they're supposed to be a tabloid, right? lmao :lol:
But there was always another meaning in everything they wrote! All their articles are double-intended! cryptic, encoded...whatever!
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TMZ is in on the hoax. I have no doubt!
They always wrote what seemed to be shitty articles about Mj ... they're supposed to be a tabloid, right? lmao :lol:
But there was always another meaning in everything they wrote! All their articles are double-intended! cryptic, encoded...whatever!
Sure TMZ is in on the hoax but it's really tabloid "1st class :lol: " and :evil: making silly articles and letting people saying bad things :evil:
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This guy in the picture doesn't look like Joe imo.
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TMZ spreading BS as always.
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Oh my Gosh, did you see this? lolol/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w53Dt2mi9pc[/youtube]
Much Peace and Love to everyone.
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After watching Joe promote the perfume at the Grammy's - I'm left speechless...
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I think this is a bogus story. The guy's too thin and his hair's too gray, and his hat's wrong.
Even in the TMZ video they still only show the one pic of Joe, though they show the display in video.
Wasn't this Taaj Malik considered a trouble-maker in some MJ fan groups?
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I believe that the man of the photo is not Joe
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And what if it is? It doesn't matter either way.
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After watching Joe promote the perfume at the Grammy's - I'm left speechless...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyRtNfUidw[/youtube](http://www.bullebaerchens-bilderwelten.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/vomit-boy02-vomit-puke-sick-smiley-emoticon-000653-large.gif)
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Grandpa man' GO HOME,you are almost 90 years old and you have 27 grandchildren to raise :idea: .
Haven't you already done enough M-O-N-E-Y :?: ????
Well I guess not ::) .
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@applehead - We need to be respectful of Mr. Jackson, dear.
I do believe that this company he's signed the perfume/colognes with is in trouble with the Michael's Estate for not properly paying licensing fees, etc.
That's where the real issue lays.
When you get to be that age, you need to keep busy - and evidently, Las Vegas keeps his mind working. Michael was there with his kids for awhile, too.
Now they're here in S. California. But Las Vegas is but a short drive or flight away!
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I really hope this isn't Joe because if it is... that's kind of disrespectful to Michael - selling perfume in a mall..?
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I don't buy the whole cologne thing. I don't feel that's Joe Jackson sitting there in a mall. C'mon. Nope not buying it, & by the looks of the mall surroundings, doesn't look like anyone else for that matter is either.
Joe Jackson is the father of King of Pop, he would still have a small crowd of people.
Something just doesn't seem right with the video.
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Or having a whole lot of fun is keeping Joe young, rather than wasting away at home in a rocking chair. Maybe he put a double in there and is watching from another place laughing his head off. It probably puts a smile on MJ's face too. After all he must have gotten his prankster ways from someone. I mean this keeps Michael's name in the news and spins out the controversy as usual. Just a thought.
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I may say that all article is like double-play scenario.
Its not much dig from there, but i agreet that few things is obviously stands out:
Jackson hocks
out-of-body experience
role of marionette
all operation may be illegal
Bravado international
no line if u want an autograph.
All that appears as coded messages - some more or less obvious - we already know that old/wise/foolish man is represent Michael and also it is NO WAY that (Michael)JOE Jackson wl NOT informing fans for his compain in Michaels name! - cause he LOVED the attention and MJ is inherited that from his father.@@
So, there is no-way that Joe wl b sitting alone wth Michaels LINE OF PARFUMES on the back- NO WAY!
This story is made up to transmitt important - at that time - messages.
May b we should look DIPPER at Bravado International who OWNS ALL RIGHTS to MJ trademark - screams slavery for me OR MJ is behind them??
BLESSINGS FAM !
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Ha ha Well, if you rest you rust! /toldya/ Gotta give him credit for getting out there and stirring the pot, at Michael's request!! ;D ;D ;D
Of course MJ is behind this part of the plot! It began to appear that the people were leaving, that maybe some had fallen off the EDGE afraid/ MJ had masterfully brought us to, and there was a little lull in the adventure. bangbang :-\ ...but you have to know BY NOW, that The Puppet 8-) Master is in control!
@ Applehead:
bearhug
please don't be hard on Joe. I think he is whimsically funny, helping with the Hoax. He even slyly said Michael smelled GOOD ???/ , to discombobulate all the women! heh heh...It is in the plan, to make everybody foaming mad and speak up!! lolol/ lolol/ respect/ respect/
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I don't buy the whole cologne thing. I don't feel that's Joe Jackson sitting there in a mall. C'mon. Nope not buying it, & by the looks of the mall surroundings, doesn't look like anyone else for that matter is either.
Joe Jackson is the father of King of Pop, he would still have a small crowd of people.
Something just doesn't seem right with the video.
Why would he? Nobody else in Michael's family has a small crowd of people following them, either. Unless of course, their publicist arranges it.
Joe IS trying to sell perfume.
Is he the one in the mall? The photo isn't of high enough pixels for me to clean up, nor worth my time. It doesn't matter, one way or the other.
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Ha ha Well, if you rest you rust! /toldya/ Gotta give him credit for getting out there and stirring the pot, at Michael's request!! ;D ;D ;D
Of course MJ is behind this part of the plot! It began to appear that the people were leaving, that maybe some had fallen off the EDGE afraid/ MJ had masterfully brought us to, and there was a little lull in the adventure. bangbang :-\ ...but you have to know BY NOW, that The Puppet 8-) Master is in control!
@ Applehead:
bearhug
please don't be hard on Joe. I think he is whimsically funny, helping with the Hoax. He even slyly said Michael smelled GOOD ???/ , to discombobulate all the women! heh heh...It is in the plan, to make everybody foaming mad and speak up!! lolol/ lolol/ respect/ respect/
Its Her I love you bearhug !!!!!
Your posts always makes me giggle lol lolol/ !!!! Yes, yes the PUPPET MASTER really makes us all Speak up lol :lol: :mrgreen: ,even if this sometimes takes Shout or Pulling some hair :lol: :lol: :lol: .The most important is that we SPEAK and not Sleep /bravo/ .
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Its her
He even slyly said Michael smelled GOOD ???/ , to discombobulate all the women! heh heh...It is in the plan, to make everybody foaming mad
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I admit that I'm discombobulated over him. :P What a cool word!
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Or having a whole lot of fun is keeping Joe young, rather than wasting away at home in a rocking chair. Maybe he put a double in there and is watching from another place laughing his head off. It probably puts a smile on MJ's face too. After all he must have gotten his prankster ways from someone. I mean this keeps Michael's name in the news and spins out the controversy as usual. Just a thought.
(http://www.x17online.com/images/photo-sets/conv/jjacksonhomept2062509_X17/jjacksonhomept2062509_01-full.jpg)
^^ :lol: :lol: :lol: Once again , I fully agree with you MjonMind!! bounce/
I have the utmost respect for Michael's father and I also see him as a genius and an innate prankster!
I also believe Mr. Jackson plays a major role in Michael's hoax and everything that we see is done with a purpose!! that is not always visible but hidden under awkward stuff like this whole selling of perfume in a mall, for example!
I think this is just another "DOT" that taken alone doesn't make sense to us and seems bizarre, but in time, when we have received more "DOTS", we will be able to make the connections and fully understand what this is really all about.
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Ha ha Well, if you rest you rust! /toldya/ Gotta give him credit for getting out there and stirring the pot, at Michael's request!! ;D ;D ;D
Of course MJ is behind this part of the plot! It began to appear that the people were leaving, that maybe some had fallen off the EDGE afraid/ MJ had masterfully brought us to, and there was a little lull in the adventure. bangbang :-\ ...but you have to know BY NOW, that The Puppet 8-) Master is in control!
@ Applehead:
bearhug
please don't be hard on Joe. I think he is whimsically funny, helping with the Hoax. He even slyly said Michael smelled GOOD ???/ , to discombobulate all the women! heh heh...It is in the plan, to make everybody foaming mad and speak up!! lolol/ lolol/ respect/ respect/
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I LOVED this post!!
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Here's a video, we see Joe and La Toya as well. A bit different from TMZ's desert picture. :roll:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qMqo6f21rE[/youtube]
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Joseph Walter Jackson aka Joe Jackson was there and he did sit on that chair lol lolol/ .PERIOD 8-)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziXOLhcRtJg[/youtube]
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LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
I so love LaToya!! thanks for the vid @AppleHead!
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Here's a video, we see Joe and La Toya as well. A bit different from TMZ's desert picture. :roll:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qMqo6f21rE[/youtube]
At ~1:50, Joe says of MJ, "He went behind all kinds of curtains with his music." :shock: albino/
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MJonmind, SimPattyK, and Applehead: bearhug bearhug bearhug :)
Ever since I read that Joe had used a monster mask to scare the living spit out of his little boys for supposedly "leaving the window open", I've had my eye on him as the original :twisted: fiend in that family. Despite what the Joker albino/ says, the acorn does not fall far from the tree! :lol: /toldya/
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LaToya you did an excellent job on that show. You're so good, and funny !! Love You !
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Here's a video, we see Joe and La Toya as well. A bit different from TMZ's desert picture. :roll:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qMqo6f21rE[/youtube]
At ~1:50, Joe says of MJ, "He went behind all kinds of curtains with his music." :shock: albino/
Good CATCH, Starchild! I didn't hear it very clear, at first. You know what this means??? If MJ is letting his dad DROP a hint like THAT to the press about all kind of CURTAINS MJ was behind, he saying to US that he is clearing the path to come back! He's hinting that he MAY even be in the ;) wings! bounce/ mj_dance/
afraid/ Well, it COULD happen. albino/
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Well he said "...with his music", not in general, he didn't leave it open ended. He said specifically, "with his music".