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Title: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: supermj4eva on February 02, 2012, 12:37:39 AM
Hey my Fellow beLIEvers, I just wanted to voice something which has been troubling me for  a while now ..... I have been the biggest beLIEver ever since june 25th 2009..... But it just seems now that all the "MAJOR" clues were in the first months after his death, and nothing really since apart from the odd clue here and there which MAY or MAY NOT have been made up or wrongly analysed in order for us to keep having something to beLIEve in or talk about.
Maybe we were just Looking for a way that he could still be here, maybe it was just wishful thinking and seeing things that were not really there...

Did we really do that ... are we really that sad?

I dont mean to sound like I dont believe or to dishearten anyone becuase I love MJ so much I even have a massive Tattoo of him with angel wings and Man in the mirror lyrics across my ribs down to my hip.

What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

With the love SuperMJ4eva  moonwalk_/ michael-jackson/
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: MJonmind on February 02, 2012, 01:11:54 AM
Well, you could either take a break, and come back to read any new happenings.  Or you could read in some of the many past buried threads, to remind yourself of the amazing things happening. Like TS said, Michael has planned for things to happen according to a time table, and sometimes there will be quiet periods. We just have to be patient.  In the meantime, you can also chat and encourage others here.  Whatever you feel you would like to do.  Personally I feel there still is plenty of clues, details, odd things, and connections that may still have not been discovered.  We can't just wait for others to find them; we are all needed for this task!  Blessings!
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: Aidan_81 on February 02, 2012, 01:17:02 AM
Welllll, I personally never treated "clues" as clues, more like mistakes done in rush
by... whom? Someone. I think the reasons behind all that are serious and
I think Michael won't be back, any time soon anyway.  And we were not supposed to
know about the "hoax", real reasons etc.
That's why I don't expect any sensational "clues" to fall from the sky this year or next
year or ever. That's how I see it.
We are harmless bunch I hope as we are seen as "sad crazies who imagine things",
and we should be ready to never have that main question answered directly, you
know what I mean. But there is always hope someone makes another mistake and
we notice it  :roll:  We'll see. I recommend everyone to concentrate on cleaning Michael's
name from all the lies left [so many left! So much work!],
honoring his legacy and being as kind to others as we can, keeping an eye on
the family won't hurt of course  ;)
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: scorpionchik on February 02, 2012, 01:20:55 AM
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Hey my Fellow beLIEvers, I just wanted to voice something which has been troubling me for  a while now ..... I have been the biggest beLIEver ever since june 25th 2009..... But it just seems now that all the "MAJOR" clues were in the first months after his death, and nothing really since apart from the odd clue here and there which MAY or MAY NOT have been made up or wrongly analysed in order for us to keep having something to beLIEve in or talk about.
Maybe we were just Looking for a way that he could still be here, maybe it was just wishful thinking and seeing things that were not really there...

Did we really do that ... are we really that sad?

I dont mean to sound like I dont believe or to dishearten anyone becuase I love MJ so much I even have a massive Tattoo of him with angel wings and Man in the mirror lyrics across my ribs down to my hip.

What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

With the love SuperMJ4eva  moonwalk_/ michael-jackson/

I already answered here, you might want to read.

 http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22100.msg387685;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: AKHTONI on February 02, 2012, 05:54:32 AM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

How about the california seal 31 stars VS 32 stars this vidéo can help you

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NvClg7i54Go[/youtube]
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: SimPattyK on February 02, 2012, 07:48:53 AM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

How about the california seal 31 stars VS 32 stars this vidéo can help you

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NvClg7i54Go[/youtube]
^^ Nice video ;)

In fact the WHOLE trial is the biggest newest clue !! only a televised circus! only a movie!

Here's a very good video by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B745gXK_Zms&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: PureLove on February 02, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
I do agree that there has been a big silence in the hoaxland lately but this doesn't mean that Michael is dead or he is not coming back. As I always say; we do not know what's going on behind the curtain and we do not know how long it is going to take. Hopefully it will end this year. Patience is something that this hoax taught me and I do believe that we should be patient. We have had enough facts to know that Michael is alive and he will come back.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: bec on February 02, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
Yes, it is time to move on http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: marumjj on February 02, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
Do not forget that in this trial is mentioned "alleged victim Michael Joseph Jackson" and in 2005 Michael Joe Jackson is mentioned ... Hmmm
I think that, yes, we must move on.
After more than two years you can not go back, keep the faith  bearhug
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: suspicious mind on February 02, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

How about the california seal 31 stars VS 32 stars this vidéo can help you

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NvClg7i54Go[/youtube]
^^ Nice video ;)

In fact the WHOLE trial is the biggest newest clue !! only a televised circus! only a movie!

Here's a very good video by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B745gXK_Zms&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

so it looks like this person indicated another video on 11/29/11, did it show up? wasn't there someone else who made a sort of promise of something for the same date that didn't show up? who was that ? i can't recall at the moment?
Title: Re: It's time to accept reality and move on
Post by: BeTheChange on February 02, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
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Yes, it is time to move on http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0

GREAT advice bec.  The time for 'clues' ended awhile back.  They were necessary in the very beginning to open our eyes and SEE that Mike wasn't dead.  Then there were times when the 'clues' were necessary to either sustain our faith or open our eyes to even further information dealing with WHY Mike did this, how he did it, etc---to grow and cement our understanding, which further served to support our belief that Mike is alive.  IMO, if one is still needing 'clues' to sustain their faith, then they have either missed some clues/discussions along the way or their faith is not built on a rock-solid foundation. 

After all we've seen and learned over the past 2.5 years...and it was all brilliantly executed from 'behind the scenes'...we're passed the 'need' for clues.  Sure, it's always fun to have clues to dig into in quiet times....but TS' last post (or I should say The Sign's last post) signalled anything BUT a quiet time ahead.  You could spend hours or days researching just one paragraph of his post lol...and based on his post, it's clear (at least to me) that we are way past the point of looking at ambulance footage or 'hoax' discrepancies. 

That was then...this is now.  The 'hoax' portion of the adventure, IMO, is over....and boy was it time well spent.  That was the time to build the skills necessary for what was to come.  Now it's time to put all we've learned to use....but on a whole other level.  Everything we have learned up to this point will now be to put to the test....on issues far more important, more far-reaching, and much more deeper than any 'hoax' clue we've ever painstakingly analyzed in the past.

I do think that this is it.

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 02, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

How about the california seal 31 stars VS 32 stars this vidéo can help you

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NvClg7i54Go[/youtube]
^^ Nice video ;)

In fact the WHOLE trial is the biggest newest clue !! only a televised circus! only a movie!

Here's a very good video by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B745gXK_Zms&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

2nd video at mark 3.40 "court case number SA073164"  :shock: 073164 = 21 = 777 (probably someone noticed this already). This is ODD to say the least and NO coincidence! Specially when you think about 777 and the Sabbath http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctrine/number_777.htm, view TIAI January 21, on which the Sabbath has been discussed.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: mjj4ever777 on February 02, 2012, 04:22:14 PM
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Yes, it is time to move on http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0

GREAT advice bec.  The time for 'clues' ended awhile back.  They were necessary in the very beginning to open our eyes and SEE that Mike wasn't dead.  Then there were times when the 'clues' were necessary to either sustain our faith or open our eyes to even further information dealing with WHY Mike did this, how he did it, etc---to grow and cement our understanding, which further served to support our belief that Mike is alive.  IMO, if one is still needing 'clues' to sustain their faith, then they have either missed some clues/discussions along the way or their faith is not built on a rock-solid foundation. 

After all we've seen and learned over the past 2.5 years...and it was all brilliantly executed from 'behind the scenes'...we're passed the 'need' for clues.  Sure, it's always fun to have clues to dig into in quiet times....but TS' last post (or I should say The Sign's last post) signalled anything BUT a quiet time ahead.  You could spend hours or days researching just one paragraph of his post lol...and based on his post, it's clear (at least to me) that we are way past the point of looking at ambulance footage or 'hoax' discrepancies. 

That was then...this is now.  The 'hoax' portion of the adventure, IMO, is over....and boy was it time well spent.  That was the time to build the skills necessary for what was to come.  Now it's time to put all we've learned to use....but on a whole other level.  Everything we have learned up to this point will now be to put to the test....on issues far more important, more far-reaching, and much more deeper than any 'hoax' clue we've ever painstakingly analyzed in the past.

I do think that this is it.

With L.O.V.E. always.

Amen sister!!  God Bless everyone!! Buckle up, and always keep the Faith!
I LOVE You all so very  much! LIVE LOVE...BE LOVE!
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: iamamjbeliever on February 02, 2012, 04:26:15 PM
yes the hoax land is boring and im more focusing on myself and what i want. Not what Michael want and im not investing my time on this hoax because im not going anywhere with it. if Michael comes back he comes back, if doesn't he doesn't that's how i put it! At the end of the day, i don't give a shit, life move on lol
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: mikeyslittlehoaxer on February 02, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
NO! We shouldnt move on! We have come too far to give up!

This is just the scilence before the storm. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Do have a life!
Post by: Tink on February 02, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
Of course I have a life - though I've put everything into a file. I keep tabs on what's relevant, but I'm not obsessing 24/7, as that isn't healthy for anyone. When I'm on here, I am thinking about this - that's why I'm here.

After Immortal, I took a mini-vacation, which was very much needed. I suggest many of you at least go out, walk in the sunshine, if it's out. Vit. D is GOOD and necessary for you!! Without the sunshine vitamins, you can become quite sick!

@mikeyslittlehoaxer: You think taking care of one's self first is giving up? If you don't take care of yourself, then nothing will ever matter if you aren't alive to enjoy it.

Most certainly, I don't live on the computer. Absolutely doesn't mean I give up. So, go outside, exercise, inside if weather's bad of course. But it just seems to me, people may taking things to extremes!

No one ever said you had to give up your life for Michael, or anything like that. He got out all the time, visited sick kids and their families.


Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: mikeyslittlehoaxer on February 02, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
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Of course I have a life - though I've put everything into a file. I keep tabs on what's relevant, but I'm not obsessing 24/7, as that isn't healthy for anyone. When I'm on here, I am thinking about this - that's why I'm here.

After Immortal, I took a mini-vacation, which was very much needed. I suggest many of you at least go out, walk in the sunshine, if it's out. Vit. D is GOOD and necessary for you!! Without the sunshine vitamins, you can become quite sick!

@mikeyslittlehoaxer: You think taking care of one's self first is giving up? If you don't take care of yourself, then nothing will ever matter if you aren't alive to enjoy it.

Most certainly, I don't live on the computer. Absolutely doesn't mean I give up. So, go outside, exercise, inside if weather's bad of course. But it just seems to me, people may taking things to extremes!

No one ever said you had to give up your life for Michael, or anything like that. He got out all the time, visited sick kids and their families



No I don't think that. I'm just saying for people who have lost faith and who have been giving up recenty.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: sandythyme on February 02, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
Giving up is not in my vocabulary.  At Thymes I would obsess over Michael, but that is behind me, way behind me.  I live my life everyday in honor of people, people past and present.  I believe Michael is here, it is obvious to me, no question.  I honor him every day, as he has been an important teacher to me, when the thyme is right he will let us know.  Going about your every day life is most important.  He will be back someday and we will see him in a different beautiful light.  Take care, love to all
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: mrmjj4ever777 on February 02, 2012, 07:19:29 PM
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Yes, it is time to move on http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0

GREAT advice bec.  The time for 'clues' ended awhile back.  They were necessary in the very beginning to open our eyes and SEE that Mike wasn't dead.  Then there were times when the 'clues' were necessary to either sustain our faith or open our eyes to even further information dealing with WHY Mike did this, how he did it, etc---to grow and cement our understanding, which further served to support our belief that Mike is alive.  IMO, if one is still needing 'clues' to sustain their faith, then they have either missed some clues/discussions along the way or their faith is not built on a rock-solid foundation. 

After all we've seen and learned over the past 2.5 years...and it was all brilliantly executed from 'behind the scenes'...we're passed the 'need' for clues.  Sure, it's always fun to have clues to dig into in quiet times....but TS' last post (or I should say The Sign's last post) signalled anything BUT a quiet time ahead.  You could spend hours or days researching just one paragraph of his post lol...and based on his post, it's clear (at least to me) that we are way past the point of looking at ambulance footage or 'hoax' discrepancies. 

That was then...this is now.  The 'hoax' portion of the adventure, IMO, is over....and boy was it time well spent.  That was the time to build the skills necessary for what was to come.  Now it's time to put all we've learned to use....but on a whole other level.  Everything we have learned up to this point will now be to put to the test....on issues far more important, more far-reaching, and much more deeper than any 'hoax' clue we've ever painstakingly analyzed in the past.

I do think that this is it.

With L.O.V.E. always.


Yes, it is time to move on. The clues made us research Michael Jackson. Now we have a current model of the ultimate human being. Our lives are dedicated to being like Michael Jackson. This means, doing your absolute best for every effort, work, relationship, family. Giving your time to enrich another persons life, with your own personal experience as evidence to help others commit. I L.O.V.E. this guy.

God bless everything     
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: applehead250609 on February 03, 2012, 04:52:38 AM
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Yes, it is time to move on http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.0

GREAT advice bec.  The time for 'clues' ended awhile back.  They were necessary in the very beginning to open our eyes and SEE that Mike wasn't dead.  Then there were times when the 'clues' were necessary to either sustain our faith or open our eyes to even further information dealing with WHY Mike did this, how he did it, etc---to grow and cement our understanding, which further served to support our belief that Mike is alive.  IMO, if one is still needing 'clues' to sustain their faith, then they have either missed some clues/discussions along the way or their faith is not built on a rock-solid foundation. 

After all we've seen and learned over the past 2.5 years...and it was all brilliantly executed from 'behind the scenes'...we're passed the 'need' for clues.  Sure, it's always fun to have clues to dig into in quiet times....but TS' last post (or I should say The Sign's last post) signalled anything BUT a quiet time ahead.  You could spend hours or days researching just one paragraph of his post lol...and based on his post, it's clear (at least to me) that we are way past the point of looking at ambulance footage or 'hoax' discrepancies. 

That was then...this is now.  The 'hoax' portion of the adventure, IMO, is over....and boy was it time well spent.  That was the time to build the skills necessary for what was to come.  Now it's time to put all we've learned to use....but on a whole other level.  Everything we have learned up to this point will now be to put to the test....on issues far more important, more far-reaching, and much more deeper than any 'hoax' clue we've ever painstakingly analyzed in the past.

I do think that this is it.

With L.O.V.E. always.


Yes, it is time to move on. The clues made us research Michael Jackson. Now we have a current model of the ultimate human being. Our lives are dedicated to being like Michael Jackson. This means, doing your absolute best for every effort, work, relationship, family. Giving your time to enrich another persons life, with your own personal experience as evidence to help others commit. I L.O.V.E. this guy.

God bless everything     

You are absolutely right Mrmjj4ever777  /bravo/ !!!! Thank you for this wonderful post,a very good one in a long time  respect/ .Michael is a very good model to follow,the best we have in fact ,right now,so it's time to be like him,to be Michael-like,lol   lolol/ .
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: son on February 03, 2012, 08:17:43 AM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

Maybe Paris's "cry on the spot" statement on Ellen...

Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 03, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

Maybe Paris's "cry on the spot" statement on Ellen...



 ;)
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: MissG on February 03, 2012, 02:55:30 PM
Thanks. I appreciate the concern and the post since it comes from a deep concern after seeing people still wondering if MJ is alive and still hurting for it. However, not everyone here hangs out to find clues or to play in TS threads (me i.e). Many videos, articles and other MJ related news are posted here and it helps to keep up with the MJ events, as happened with the Murray trial.

I can´t let MJ go since 2009, I admit it. I am so intrigued of what really happened. I still cry at times when I listen to a song or watch a video. Michael is one of a kind, so powerful. In deed the "new" Jesus or God for many.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: blankie on February 03, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
 bearhug Keep the faith  bearhug...Michael is near us bearhug
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: sandythyme on February 03, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
Hi Miss G, I agree with you.  I still cry, especially when I hear gone to soon....Yikes.  His videos make me smile, then cry.  I really can't handle it somethymes.   However, I know where ever Michael is, he is ok.  As I said in my last post, I honor him.  He has taught me so much in my life, for that I am very grateful to him.  I have followed him for 40 plus years.  He is truely an inspiration to me...to us and to many.  Take care, Love to you
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: Tink on February 04, 2012, 02:30:37 AM
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What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

Maybe Paris's "cry on the spot" statement on Ellen...

One of many.
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: SimPattyK on February 04, 2012, 06:32:56 AM
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[...] Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?
How about the california seal 31 stars VS 32 stars this vidéo can help you : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NvClg7i54Go
^^ Nice video ;)
In fact the WHOLE trial is the biggest newest clue !! only a televised circus! only a movie!
Here's a very good video by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B745gXK_Zms&feature=channel_video_title

Who wanted some recent clues?? ----)) http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg366433#msg366433

Quote from: Front
[...]
Holy BAMcakes! You people sure are hard to please!
1. You ask to see Mr. Pumpkin…..wish granted.
2. You ask for clues from the Family…..you got clues from the Family.
3. You asked for more keys…..you got more keys.
4. You asked for A_OTHER sign…..you got another SIG_. 
I guess Souza might as well close down this hoax forum now and throw in the "towel" because MJ has already "officially"  :?  been PRONOU_CED "dead" (infamous autopsy photo with the missing "N").
Y'all keep asking and the court just might run outta props!  /judge/   ;)

By the way, Ms Sarahli --- YOU have obviously been snoozing on court time…………….because there have already BEEN CLOWNS.
  :lol:
http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/category/conrad-murray/
[....]
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: SimPattyK on February 04, 2012, 07:09:37 AM
source: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg360482#msg360482

Quote from: Front
[....]

This journey is proving to be quite illuminating---for those who have their eyes OPE_ and are scrutinizing the SCENEry.

For the majority --- the ones who "got it" and ARE "getting it" --- congratulations, pass GO >>> and collect $200. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show…just don't relax TOO much and fall asleep like CM.  :lol:

Just in CASE there are a few people having momentary lapses of enLIGHTenment, I strongly suggest R-R-R:
1. Remember why you're here.
2. Review the trial and events leading up to the trial, day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute----> re-confirm all clues, backtrack and re-connect the dots.
3. Reaffirm #1 and #2.


Ask yourself this--you might even call it a brief "pop" quiz…..  8-)

Question #1: Have we seen any evidence that confirms MJ is dead?--sorry, photoshopped pics, hearsay, media outlets, "official" medical report$ and acting are not applicable! (oops, well I guess that "murders" THAT theory!) Hint: there's only one possible CORRECT box to check for this question and that is----> "NO"

Question #2: Have we seen any evidence (clues, connections, intentional "mistakes", etc.) that refute the fallacy that MJ is dead? Hint: the correct answer to this question contains the letters H-Y…….Hell Yes!!!


[....]
Title: Re: Is it time to Move on?
Post by: supermj4eva on February 06, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
Hey guys thanks for the responses!
Your right we should not need any more clues, I guess ive been keeping an eye on it for so long its border line obsessive to want more!
but yeah you know what as long as MJ is alive and well then that is cool with me! He shouldnt have to come back just to be our bit of entertainment.
but if he did come back it would be the most spectacular thing ever witnessed by human kind.
That is all!
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