Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: Integrity on January 29, 2012, 12:47:10 AM
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Hi everyone, Please comment:) Need some help!
This is what I do not understand!! If someone feels there in danger in there own home why would they go back home.. I have had an experience where I had to leave my home because I felt at the time my life was in danger. I had two room mates that were siting around stirring up a big pot of brew and I felt I was the one they were going to put in the pot. SO I LEFT MY HOME FOR OVER THREE WEEKS BECAUSE I FELT THE ENERGY OF HATE. I did give them till the end of the month to leave & I made sure I practically closed down my home to get them out and they both did leave at the end of the month. That is when I felt safe to return back to my home...
1. Michael was in danger, he said he was in danger, his sisters & mother said he was in danger, he
said he was in danger so WHY WOULD HE COME HOME that night...
2. Why would KO let him come home..he could have protected him or something...
3. He was on the beach with his children in the middle east to come back to killers.. Could he have
not known that danger was all around him..
4. I still do not believe Michael would take medicine in the house with those children there...
Still feel he is ALIVE!!! Need your thoughts.. Thank you..
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If they were trying to kill him than his children are IN DANGER.. Not just him..
How could they even stay in that house if someone is trying to murder him?
What year was it that did Dr. Murray tapped MJ sounding like he was half dead.. When could that have taken place and who was seeing about the children.
That tape could not have been real and why would Dr. Murray tape it..
Sounds very sick to me..... Makes no since..
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"It was all part of his plan?"....There was no real threat persay...Nobody told Michael "I'm going to kill you". It was the people around him that were self-seeking, and since MJ's speech against Tommy Mottola, he was afraid for his life...."They are trying to kill me"...could mean many things and many people.........otherwise there would be no need for a hoax death.......there are more than one particular person.....this way, the FBI can fish them out slowly...one by one...God bless
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Hi everyone, Please comment:) Need some help!
This is what I do not understand!! If someone feels there in danger in there own home why would they go back home.. I have had an experience where I had to leave my home because I felt at the time my life was in danger. I had two room mates that were siting around stirring up a big pot of brew and I felt I was the one they were going to put in the pot. SO I LEFT MY HOME FOR OVER THREE WEEKS BECAUSE I FELT THE ENERGY OF HATE. I did give them till the end of the month to leave & I made sure I practically closed down my home to get them out and they both did leave at the end of the month. That is when I felt safe to return back to my home...
1. Michael was in danger, he said he was in danger, his sisters & mother said he was in danger, he
said he was in danger so WHY WOULD HE COME HOME that night...
2. Why would KO let him come home..he could have protected him or something...
3. He was on the beach with his children in the middle east to come back to killers.. Could he have
not known that danger was all around him..
4. I still do not believe Michael would take medicine in the house with those children there...
Still feel he is ALIVE!!! Need your thoughts.. Thank you..
It sounds to me from what the chef told us,that he liked his children and himself to eat very healthy,beet juices,granola,amongst other stuff,i dont understand why then he would go upstais,and take propofol,and dice with his life,he is not stupid at all,why would he take a risk like that,after finding out about propofol ovor the last few months,i know if i were to let dr murry use propofol on me under them conditions,the chances are i would be playing with fire,as they say,and all this with his children in the house,some fans that night who wait outside for michael to come back,said things did not seem right that night,i dont know,maybe going back to that night after hearing what was said at the trial,and looking again maybe..........xxx
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Hi everyone, Please comment:) Need some help!
This is what I do not understand!! If someone feels there in danger in there own home why would they go back home.. I have had an experience where I had to leave my home because I felt at the time my life was in danger. I had two room mates that were siting around stirring up a big pot of brew and I felt I was the one they were going to put in the pot. SO I LEFT MY HOME FOR OVER THREE WEEKS BECAUSE I FELT THE ENERGY OF HATE. I did give them till the end of the month to leave & I made sure I practically closed down my home to get them out and they both did leave at the end of the month. That is when I felt safe to return back to my home...
1. Michael was in danger, he said he was in danger, his sisters & mother said he was in danger, he
said he was in danger so WHY WOULD HE COME HOME that night...
2. Why would KO let him come home..he could have protected him or something...
3. He was on the beach with his children in the middle east to come back to killers.. Could he have
not known that danger was all around him..
4. I still do not believe Michael would take medicine in the house with those children there...
Still feel he is ALIVE!!! Need your thoughts.. Thank you..
he came home that night because
First: to fake his death,so people who wanted to kill him,are not looking for him now because they think he is dead
Second:to change from king of pop to king of films (he burried the king of pop on 2009) michael-jackson/
Third:revenge from the media crash/
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I'm just going to mention something here, Michael used to be addicted to Painkillers back in the 1990's, he went to Rehab and even Liz Taylor helped him out, he came clean off of the addiction and realized what he was doing to himself and those around him.
So why would he have a doctor administrate such a dangerous drug to him if he realized that it was bad? Michael is one very intelligent man, he can see that being on such drugs can not only have an impact on his life, but others. He also had Children, he wouldn't ever abandon his children like this by doing something so careless.
If it were the case that Michael DID in fact take propofol and had died from it, then he'd be considered a careless father.
We all know how much Michael cared about his Children, so I don't see Michael doing any of this. :ugeek:
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I read some where ,dont ask me where,I read so much,but one doctor said it is esay to get addicted to propofol,so who knows,when you cant sleep and are desperate for sleep,we dont know what we would do till it happened to us,the ordinary person wouldnt have the finances to get certain stuff,Its a different world these celebrities live in.and I wouldnt condem any of them doing anything,I dont walk in their shoes.but feel empathy of the pressure that comes with it,Living an ordinary life has its pressures too.Life can be hard,and I ask myself all the time,What is it all about.Its hard to believe Michael would take such dangerous stuff,and I do condem whoever introduced him to it,I think there are a few who contributed to it for money.It so didnt have to be this way,but I sure many people take the wrong path in life,none of us are perfect,I know i,m not.
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The drugs that Dr. Murray was giving him was not for insomnia!!! A person who has a sleep problem goes to sleep specialist and Dr. Murray was a heart Doctor???
He was going to be paid 150,000 a month with that kind of money you can afford a Doctor that could have helped him with insomnia. MAKES NO SINCE!! /pull hair/
You guys are all the sweetest beings and I am glad to have known all of you...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts:)
LOVE WILL CONQUER ALL
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Hi everyone, Please comment:) Need some help!
This is what I do not understand!! If someone feels there in danger in there own home why would they go back home.. I have had an experience where I had to leave my home because I felt at the time my life was in danger. I had two room mates that were siting around stirring up a big pot of brew and I felt I was the one they were going to put in the pot. SO I LEFT MY HOME FOR OVER THREE WEEKS BECAUSE I FELT THE ENERGY OF HATE. I did give them till the end of the month to leave & I made sure I practically closed down my home to get them out and they both did leave at the end of the month. That is when I felt safe to return back to my home...
1. Michael was in danger, he said he was in danger, his sisters & mother said he was in danger, he
said he was in danger so WHY WOULD HE COME HOME that night...
2. Why would KO let him come home..he could have protected him or something...
3. He was on the beach with his children in the middle east to come back to killers.. Could he have
not known that danger was all around him..
4. I still do not believe Michael would take medicine in the house with those children there...
Still feel he is ALIVE!!! Need your thoughts.. Thank you..
he came home that night because
First: to fake his death,so people who wanted to kill him,are not looking for him now because they think he is dead
Second:to change from king of pop to king of films (he burried the king of pop on 2009) michael-jackson/
Third:revenge from the media crash/
I agree :)
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I'm just going to mention something here, Michael used to be addicted to Painkillers back in the 1990's, he went to Rehab and even Liz Taylor helped him out, he came clean off of the addiction and realized what he was doing to himself and those around him.
So why would he have a doctor administrate such a dangerous drug to him if he realized that it was bad? Michael is one very intelligent man, he can see that being on such drugs can not only have an impact on his life, but others. He also had Children, he wouldn't ever abandon his children like this by doing something so careless.
If it were the case that Michael DID in fact take propofol and had died from it, then he'd be considered a careless father.
We all know how much Michael cared about his Children, so I don't see Michael doing any of this. :ugeek:
.............This is what im trying to say,pain killers yes understandable,but the whole propofol thing,thats a diferent ball game alltogether.....XXX
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I'm just going to mention something here, Michael used to be addicted to Painkillers back in the 1990's, he went to Rehab and even Liz Taylor helped him out, he came clean off of the addiction and realized what he was doing to himself and those around him.
So why would he have a doctor administrate such a dangerous drug to him if he realized that it was bad? Michael is one very intelligent man, he can see that being on such drugs can not only have an impact on his life, but others. He also had Children, he wouldn't ever abandon his children like this by doing something so careless.
If it were the case that Michael DID in fact take propofol and had died from it, then he'd be considered a careless father.
We all know how much Michael cared about his Children, so I don't see Michael doing any of this. :ugeek:
.............This is what im trying to say,pain killers yes understandable,but the whole propofol thing,thats a diferent ball game alltogether.....XXX
My sentiments exactly, Painkillers aren't nearly as deadly as Propofol. I'm pretty sure Michael would understand the difference between a drug that's prescribed for medical purposes only and a drug that is used in everyday life.
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Integrity
The drugs that Dr. Murray was giving him was not for insomnia!!! A person who has a sleep problem goes to sleep specialist and Dr. Murray was a heart Doctor???
He was going to be paid 150,000 a month with that kind of money you can afford a Doctor that could have helped him with insomnia. MAKES NO SINCE!!
With MJ's genius plan, it leaves everyone going in circles trying to figure things out. That's the beauty of it. About Michael going back to the house after the last rehearsal, TS said that to put a double in MJ’s place for the night of the 24th, (talk of the fans saying MJ was weird that night and not greeting his fans) would make no sense either, because why would MJ risk someone else’s life?
About MJ being so desperate for sleep. We can read so many stories of MJ phoning people and wanting to go out to do crazy fun things in the middle of the night, people saying he doesn’t sleep that much. I’ve posted before about a documented small percentage of the population that simply need less hours of sleep than most, and that is still normal. MJ probably developed the craving sleep and propofol story out of this ability of his to require less sleep.
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Ive read that much,just trying to think,how many people had seen oxgen bottles,iv stands,and all the other stuff mentioned at the trial,before the 24th of june,before that last night of rehersals,just thinking, could all that stuff not have been planted that night,according to fans who were there,wierd things were happening that night,more security,the lights in the bedroom if i remember correctly stayed on,i dont know,just a thought...... :? :?
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I'm personally not buying the whole "hospital setting" at Michael's residence. I thought I remember reading on the original hoax site, that there was another peson that was dying, & he traded spots with him. Everything that they found in Michael's bedroom, home, etc.... was for a man who had a ternimal illness. NOT MICHAEL JACKSON WHO WAS DANCING THE NIGHT BEFORE. The paramedics even made comments about that "frail old man'. Sorry not buying any of the this hype of it being Michael Jackson. It was someone that died, for sure, but someone who had a terminal illness. I've always thought it was a set up for the guy to die "as Michael Jackson".
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I agree with you LoveShyMichael 100%!!!!!!!! MJ changed places with a FRAIL OLD MAN WHO WAS TERMINALLY ILL.
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Latoya said on one of those talk shows that he was being controlled and and that they could not get to him because the people around him would not allow anyone to see him... Where was the children when Joe was banging on his door on June 24????? Were they watching all of this drama or were they just a part of the show!!!!
She also said they tried to intervene but was blocked by them.
What does she mean by them and she said that Michael told her they were going to kill him.
THAT IS A BOLD STATEMENT TO MAKE!!!! SO WHY DID SHE NOT CALL THE POLICE OR SOMEONE WHEN SHE AND SOME OF THE FAMILY FELT HE WAS IN DANGER!!!
Has to be a hoax because this does not make any since at all!!!!
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKTHYpdrBTU[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uA7ZEYp8tk[/youtube].....sorry if ive not done this right,dont know how to post one underneath the other, :oops:...but if you listen to Latoya at.....1.40...to...1.45,about him being thin and weak,then listen to Dermot at...1.00...to...1.22...so,so different dont you think....XXX PS,i know he calls him J***o,but Dermot is a nice fella,i think he ment it in a nice way.
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Latoya interviews are ALL very confusing!!! /pull hair/
One minute she says he was here than he is gone like a magic trick /overreacting/
Than she says on another video for us to watch the movie Illusionist & read between the lines /scream/
And on this video posted by xxmjxx she says he was cold sick & a bone and she or the family could do nothing!!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS DO SOMETHING!!!!
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Latoya interviews are ALL very confusing!!! /pull hair/
One minute she says he was here than he is gone like a magic trick /overreacting/
Than she says on another video for us to watch the movie Illusionist & read between the lines /scream/
And on this video posted by xxmjxx she says he was cold sick & a bone and she or the family could do nothing!!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS DO SOMETHING!!!!
@Integrity - I saw Latoya live saying all of that, and a smidgen more. Latoya dropped such a bomb to people paying attention, giving hope that Michael's alive, that most people would overlook, since the way she phrased it made her sound crazy - she isn't!!
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I'm personally not buying the whole "hospital setting" at Michael's residence. I thought I remember reading on the original hoax site, that there was another peson that was dying, & he traded spots with him. Everything that they found in Michael's bedroom, home, etc.... was for a man who had a ternimal illness. NOT MICHAEL JACKSON WHO WAS DANCING THE NIGHT BEFORE. The paramedics even made comments about that "frail old man'. Sorry not buying any of the this hype of it being Michael Jackson. It was someone that died, for sure, but someone who had a terminal illness. I've always thought it was a set up for the guy to die "as Michael Jackson".
AGREE with you /bravo/
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Latoya said on one of those talk shows that he was being controlled and and that they could not get to him because the people around him would not allow anyone to see him... Where was the children when Joe was banging on his door on June 24????? Were they watching all of this drama or were they just a part of the show!!!!
She also said they tried to intervene but was blocked by them.
What does she mean by them and she said that Michael told her they were going to kill him.
THAT IS A BOLD STATEMENT TO MAKE!!!! SO WHY DID SHE NOT CALL THE POLICE OR SOMEONE WHEN SHE AND SOME OF THE FAMILY FELT HE WAS IN DANGER!!!
Has to be a hoax because this does not make any since at all!!!!
It is either a hoax or worse a cover up.I personally believe Michaels life was in danger.Great question,why didn't she or someone close to him call the police.Why was his family not able to see him or visit him?What the hell was going on in that house.If his life was in danger,why go home,why not stay at a family or friends home.Were they afraid for their on safety,and did not want to get involved.None of this makes sense.I know M.J. would never voluntarily take those damn drugs on his own.So it has to be part of the hoax,right.We need answers,dammit, lolol/.
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Latoya interviews are ALL very confusing!!! /pull hair/
One minute she says he was here than he is gone like a magic trick /overreacting/
Than she says on another video for us to watch the movie Illusionist & read between the lines /scream/
And on this video posted by xxmjxx she says he was cold sick & a bone and she or the family could do nothing!!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS DO SOMETHING!!!!
I agree,if my brother was in that kind of predicament and i feared for his life,i would do what ever needs to be done to get him out of that house.I mean come on now this is Micheal Jackson,they could have call the police,FBI,military,or shit even crips or bloods,to get him out of that house.I hope this was all part of his master plan,if so,then it makes sense.
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Latoya said on one of those talk shows that he was being controlled and and that they could not get to him because the people around him would not allow anyone to see him... Where was the children when Joe was banging on his door on June 24????? Were they watching all of this drama or were they just a part of the show!!!!
She also said they tried to intervene but was blocked by them.
What does she mean by them and she said that Michael told her they were going to kill him.
THAT IS A BOLD STATEMENT TO MAKE!!!! SO WHY DID SHE NOT CALL THE POLICE OR SOMEONE WHEN SHE AND SOME OF THE FAMILY FELT HE WAS IN DANGER!!!
Has to be a hoax because this does not make any since at all!!!!
Integrity I agree with you 100 %,and if you think this doesen't make SENSE at all ,what do you say about this :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ???? If this is not a bombshell then I don't know what it is lol OMG! !!! Do you happen to know who is this man >:( , Latoya's so friendly with ???
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOB7SNGOTA&feature=g-user-u&context=G2089cf4UCGXQYbcTJ33a_IUOAa38FEs8fq0t_OxVIACUxu4-B2Yk[/youtube]
After you watch this please tell me if you still understand something (for me everything,even the smallest things I was sure about the hoax, before,dropped exactly in the moment I saw Latoya hugging this disgusting man,that was a part from the destruction of Michael :( ) from this hoax,cause the more we look,the fishy this story gets >:( !!!
This has to be one of the biggest CONTRADICTION on this Hoax.
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Applehead,
This video proves there is something really wrong with Latoya:)
I do not understand why she is doing this? /overreacting/ /overreacting/
VG is a very sick man!!!!!!! /pull hair/
I can not seem to connect the hoax with her doing an interview with someone like that who wrote a slanderous :evil: book about MJ!!!! /scream/
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT SO SAY!!! errrr
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Toya Toya...
I dunno what to think of Toya, maybe years of abuse did something irreversible to her?
Maybe she "cared" so much she didn't really know who the man is and what
exactly he did to Michael's name?
Maybe she keeps enemies closer?
No idea.
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Just found this........http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/713800 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/713800)........ >:( >:(
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Just found this........http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/713800 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/713800)........ >:( >:(
Thank you very much Xxmjxx :) !!!
Why do I have the feeling that it's more to this story ,and that this sick Gutierz was the one who placed the bug in Evan's head about Michael being a pedophile OMG! >:( /scream/ !!!!! Back to do some research :geek: .
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I agree with you 100% ilovemjforever but we do not HAVE ANY ANSWERS!!!!!!
Has to be a hoax because this does not make any since at all!!!!
It is either a hoax or worse a cover up.I personally believe Michaels life was in danger.Great question,why didn't she or someone close to him call the police.
Why was his family not able to see him or visit him?
What the hell was going on in that house.
If his life was in danger,why go home,why not stay at a family or friends home.
Were they afraid for their on safety,and did not want to get involved.None of this makes sense.
I know M.J. would never voluntarily take those damn drugs on his own.
So it has to be part of the hoax, right. We need answers, dammit,
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Game of Chess...children were there, sleeping. As for Latoya, think of it as information gathering on her part. This dude's guard is DEFINITELY down now!
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Latoya interviews are ALL very confusing!!! /pull hair/
One minute she says he was here than he is gone like a magic trick /overreacting/
Than she says on another video for us to watch the movie Illusionist & read between the lines /scream/
And on this video posted by xxmjxx she says he was cold sick & a bone and she or the family could do nothing!!!! YOU CAN ALWAYS DO SOMETHING!!!!
Well, we've been watching Latoya for years, and should have realized by now that she, on regular occasion, particularly after the Hoax began, takes turns ACTING like she is battier than cwap, and then highly aware of things most people are not, and very very savvy about the people in MJ's life. I thought she really WAS nutty, because she is DANG good at this! omigosh. A purrrrrfect hoax player!
The ONLY reason she would be found hugging an evil ruinous enemy in her brother's life, would be one of these: either she is ACTING nutty again, to drive some emotion in the Hoax, OR the bad guy really IS just a regular good guy or another actor in the hoax...let that settle in... afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ No one wants to believe that MJ masterminded this Thriller >:( crash/ THAT far back, but it COULD be true. :o fresse/ suspicious// suspicious// suspicious//
I do know that MJ's over the top insomnia could NOT have been as bad as we have been led to believe, or he would have been a babbling drooling basket case of a psycho---not the prolific and compelling Artiste that we know him to be. bounce/
If you don't get any sleep, you become psychotic in a matter of weeks. We MUST have sleep. It is as necessary as water, to the nervous system and brain. Most of a nights' sleep is devoted to categorizing, filing and making sense of the things which were scanned by your senses since the LAST time you slept! Imagine the chaos if these zillions of bits of info are not filed for thousands of hours! The mind shuts down normal thought and reasoning before this can go too far, in just weeks.
Propofol (and many other drugs which appear to knock you out) does not and would not have allowed anyone good sleep. After a decade of truly, NO sleep, MJ wouldn't have been ABLE to plan to pull the wool over HIS OWN eyes albino/, let alone the whole world's. :D He would have been too busy, playing with his toes in some rubber room, in a Seymour Butt gown. :cry:
So...WHY did MJ go home that night? To kick off "Lights Out", the hoaxed death, of course. We don't know yet, if it was to give the bird to some special enemies, or what, for certain, yet. This is why we are all still WATCHIN' as we were told. ;))