Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Memorial => Topic started by: RK on January 24, 2012, 07:46:29 PM

Title: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 24, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
This is a new thread to review the memorial again with a fresher understanding of almost 3 years of hindsight.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jums2oVs3KM&feature=related[/youtube]    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6oTPhOCD4&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jums2oVs3KM&feature=related][/url]                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6oTPhOCD4&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl6oTPhOCD4&feature=player_embedded#!)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1pa_J3My0&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1pa_J3My0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1pa_J3My0&feature=related)
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 24, 2012, 11:25:06 PM
Quote
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2387044#post2387044

Of a tHeOrY or Vision

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.

Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael

Luke 1:36

"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.

On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.

Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.

As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance.


In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.

2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.

Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!

Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.

Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.


Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.

JUSTICE........For it is already written!

And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!

“With all the ingredients—is it Simmering---can you smell it—how long before the “pie” is done.” – As many have realized, IT would have been greatness to an infinite degree.

Mr. Jackson--- you know I still have your back--- until my end.
Connected

KEEP Watchin'.......

"This is my planet. You're ONE of Us" --- The Greatest

 
I am posting Back's Of a tHeOrY or Vision in this thread as a reference point also.
That grand stage would be in the heavens----a visual staple-d to our minds for all eternity.
The days of Christ and Michael and the beginning of this transfer was on 7-7 or the memorial....
As we are examining the memorial with biblical focus turned on in our hoax glasses this time.......is the transfer spoken here quite simply emphasis off of the King of Pop and from here on in The King of Kings as in Christ Jesus. The word parallel is used also with regard to holding to a proclaimation that it wasn't a comeback but a takeover.
I think TS asked the question of us if MJ used his art-form to expose truths. I have always wondered about the huge golden statues that were paraded around the world for the History tour. I remember being gobsmacked watching one being towed up the Thames by boat. They always put me in mind of Nebuchadnezza's image for some reason and there is also the adulation of the golden pants fans....[I mean no disrespect....I am only thinking aloud here].

to be continued as I am late for work again

edit to add that the YANA video now in hindsight puts me in mind of Adam and Eve in the garden.  At the time I was like...hey guys ...keep that private for yourselves....Wow do I have some homework ahead .

Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 25, 2012, 04:34:31 AM
When I'm seeing the global protests against ACTA agreement... I'm thinking - did Michael know something about it??
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: wishingstar on January 25, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
RK...you're brilliant!  I will re-watch, re-read and re-think it all...........love it!
Thank you for opening this thread!
Have a great day!

Blessings
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: melody on January 25, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
I had absolutely no recollection of the following part of the memorial. It reflects some of the sentiments being expressed here lately.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIoV_0I6_m4[/youtube]

Quote
Just before we go... There will never be another Michael Jackson. His musical presence has left its mark on his family, his friends and the millions of fans who have sang and danced (or at least tried to do so) like Mr. Michael Jackson. He was often imitated but never duplicated. He wanted to heal the world through his music and in a small way he succeeded. His music reached across the barriers of race, culture and even national identity, unifying the planet if only for a few moments.

So now it's up to us. We should all look at the man or the woman in the mirror and change the way we treat each other. Let's celebrate our uniqueness, respect our differences and make that change starting today. My prayer is that this will be more than just a memorial for Michael Jackson, but a remembrance, truly, of what he means to us because all around us are people of different cultures, different religions, different nationalities, and yet the music of Michael Jackson brings us together, not only here but around the world.

The family has allowed me to close this memorial with a prayer. And I'm going to ask that you would just catch the hand of the person next to you—whether you are in this auditorium or watching by television, wherever you might be—in solidarity and remembrance of truly what Michael Jackson's music has done to us and what the man means in this place. If you are so inclined, will you bow your heads and let's pray.

Our Heavenly Father, we thank you this day for the memory of Michael Jackson that means so much to us even right now. Thank you for the gift of music that he gave us. Thank you for the man that he was and for what he sought to do with his life.

We pray, Father, that you will just remind us that we truly can make a difference if we make up our minds to do so. Help us to take a message of love and healing and peace with us as we go. Let us demonstrate that love when we go to school. Let us demonstrate that love when we go to work. Let us demonstrate that love as we walk the streets of our city and no longer turn a blind eye to the needs of those that we walk by every day. Let us stop judging people by the color of their skin and by the accent of their voice. Let us, rather, look in the heart of every man, woman, boy and girl, and desire truly to reach that person with the love that Michael Jackson showed us in his music. But even now, the King of Pop must bow his knee to the King of Kings and we pray that you remind us, Lord, that our lives are but dust, we are here for a moment and then we are gone.

Thank you, Lord, for how Michael impacted us and may we now impact others. For we pray that this moment will not be forgotten as an event to have been enjoyed, but rather a reminder that we too can make a change. Bless us and keep us with the love by which you kept Michael and we offer this prayer unto you in the glorious name of Jesus our Lord. Let all who agree, say amen.


God Bless You and Praise God for you.

Also, here is a transcript of the memorial as covered by CNN: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/07/cnr.07.html

edit: the transcript is definitely not complete

Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 26, 2012, 08:49:23 AM
I  will be counting on your excellent eye for detail wishingstar.  :-*

Melody that link to the cnn transcript was awesome. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee told the good samaritan story and called Michael the good samaritan.
And from Mr Kenny Ortega we have this little gem
"It was also, I think, his greatest personal work.   This is for Him, his living legacy, his care, his heart, his concern about our planet, about our human condition. "

Kenny has to be referring to the 20+ years of planning behind the hoax, because it doesn't make sense to say that 'supposed ' rehearsal footage is Michael's greatest personal work in comparison to all his previous tours and music. Yes....I agree Kenny....it is largely about our human condition.

And have I told you guys lately how much I love you?
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: SimPattyK on January 26, 2012, 10:18:00 AM
The following videos by MJFanFOREVERAndADAY offer a very
detailed, original, amazing analysis of the MEMORIAL! (moment by moment!)
For me, watching these videos, was like a good RECAP + a bonus: clues/infos that I hadn't yet known/discovered!
She points out to some really great stuff!!

I don't want to occupy too much space here, so I will embed the pic only for the first video,
but make sure you watch them all ;)


part 14
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGibH0nYBqE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]

part 15 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFjDFAZwrVU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 16 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgdMBPgso9Y&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 17 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42HLfsAlMSk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 18 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_MOTPq0ZMU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 19 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75V1mTQei_A&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHC1cHveXtE&feature=slpl

part 21 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_dKVc_6m-M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 22 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4xzhw3pLLk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 23 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NP8DwUTXL0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 24 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKru7O7jeoA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 25 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TSKnjaIw6w&feature=slpl

part 26 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ues8Z0gUpI8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 27 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txj4G3gB5as&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

part 28 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--nrn4TozoE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 26, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
Thankyou SimPattiK. I will def be watching those vids through out the next few days.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 27, 2012, 09:49:02 AM
I am listing the lyrics from the second song performed by Stevie Wonder [joined onto Never Dreamed You'd Leave In Summer]. I hadn't even realized that they were two different songs till today :-[   
Quote
"They Won't Go When I Go"

No more lying friends
Wanting tragic ends
Though they do pretend
They won't go when I go

All those bleeding hearts
With sorrows to impart
Were right here from the start
And they won't go when I go

And I'll go where I've longed
To go so long
Away from tears

Gone from painful cries
Away from saddened eyes
Along with him I'll bide
Because they won't go when I go

Big men feeling small
Weak ones standing tall
I will watch them fall
They won't go when I go

And I'll go where I've longed
To go so long
Away from tears

Unclean minds mislead the pure
The innocent will leave for sure
For them there is a resting place
People sinning just for fun
They will never see the sun
For they can never show their faces
There ain't no room for the hopeless sinner
Who will take more than he will give
He ain't hardly gonna give

The greed of man will be
Far away from me
And my soul will be free
They won't go when I go

Since my soul conceived
All that I believe
The kingdom I will see
'Cause they won't go when I go

When I go
Where I'll go
No one can keep me
From my destiny.

Reminds me a lot of a psalm....but thats just my take on it. However, the lyrics are a proclamation of the end of wickedness and the rest of the righteous.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: suspicious mind on January 27, 2012, 12:59:49 PM
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edit to add that the YANA video now in hindsight puts me in mind of Adam and Eve in the garden.  At the time I was like...hey guys ...keep that private for yourselves....Wow do I have some homework ahead .

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yes i think i might also. God knows i could never make any sense out of it at all until it hit me ( one of those revelations that wakes you in the night kind of thing).
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: jacilovesmichael on January 27, 2012, 04:38:54 PM
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Quote
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2387044#post2387044

Of a tHeOrY or Vision

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.

Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael

Luke 1:36

"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.

On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.

Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.

As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance.


In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.

2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.

Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!

Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.

Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.


Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.

JUSTICE........For it is already written!

And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!

“With all the ingredients—is it Simmering---can you smell it—how long before the “pie” is done.” – As many have realized, IT would have been greatness to an infinite degree.

Mr. Jackson--- you know I still have your back--- until my end.
Connected

KEEP Watchin'.......

"This is my planet. You're ONE of Us" --- The Greatest

 
I am posting Back's Of a tHeOrY or Vision in this thread as a reference point also.
That grand stage would be in the heavens----a visual staple-d to our minds for all eternity.
The days of Christ and Michael and the beginning of this transfer was on 7-7 or the memorial....
As we are examining the memorial with biblical focus turned on in our hoax glasses this time.......is the transfer spoken here quite simply emphasis off of the King of Pop and from here on in The King of Kings as in Christ Jesus. The word parallel is used also with regard to holding to a proclaimation that it wasn't a comeback but a takeover.
I think TS asked the question of us if MJ used his art-form to expose truths. I have always wondered about the huge golden statues that were paraded around the world for the History tour. I remember being gobsmacked watching one being towed up the Thames by boat. They always put me in mind of Nebuchadnezza's image for some reason and there is also the adulation of the golden pants fans....[I mean no disrespect....I am only thinking aloud here].

to be continued as I am late for work again

edit to add that the YANA video now in hindsight puts me in mind of Adam and Eve in the garden.  At the time I was like...hey guys ...keep that private for yourselves....Wow do I have some homework ahead .


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I had absolutely no recollection of the following part of the memorial. It reflects some of the sentiments being expressed here lately.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIoV_0I6_m4[/youtube]

Quote
Just before we go... There will never be another Michael Jackson. His musical presence has left its mark on his family, his friends and the millions of fans who have sang and danced (or at least tried to do so) like Mr. Michael Jackson. He was often imitated but never duplicated. He wanted to heal the world through his music and in a small way he succeeded. His music reached across the barriers of race, culture and even national identity, unifying the planet if only for a few moments.

So now it's up to us. We should all look at the man or the woman in the mirror and change the way we treat each other. Let's celebrate our uniqueness, respect our differences and make that change starting today. My prayer is that this will be more than just a memorial for Michael Jackson, but a remembrance, truly, of what he means to us because all around us are people of different cultures, different religions, different nationalities, and yet the music of Michael Jackson brings us together, not only here but around the world.

The family has allowed me to close this memorial with a prayer. And I'm going to ask that you would just catch the hand of the person next to you—whether you are in this auditorium or watching by television, wherever you might be—in solidarity and remembrance of truly what Michael Jackson's music has done to us and what the man means in this place. If you are so inclined, will you bow your heads and let's pray.

Our Heavenly Father, we thank you this day for the memory of Michael Jackson that means so much to us even right now. Thank you for the gift of music that he gave us. Thank you for the man that he was and for what he sought to do with his life.

We pray, Father, that you will just remind us that we truly can make a difference if we make up our minds to do so. Help us to take a message of love and healing and peace with us as we go. Let us demonstrate that love when we go to school. Let us demonstrate that love when we go to work. Let us demonstrate that love as we walk the streets of our city and no longer turn a blind eye to the needs of those that we walk by every day. Let us stop judging people by the color of their skin and by the accent of their voice. Let us, rather, look in the heart of every man, woman, boy and girl, and desire truly to reach that person with the love that Michael Jackson showed us in his music. But even now, the King of Pop must bow his knee to the King of Kings and we pray that you remind us, Lord, that our lives are but dust, we are here for a moment and then we are gone.

Thank you, Lord, for how Michael impacted us and may we now impact others. For we pray that this moment will not be forgotten as an event to have been enjoyed, but rather a reminder that we too can make a change. Bless us and keep us with the love by which you kept Michael and we offer this prayer unto you in the glorious name of Jesus our Lord. Let all who agree, say amen.


God Bless You and Praise God for you.

Also, here is a transcript of the memorial as covered by CNN: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/07/cnr.07.html

edit: the transcript is definitely not complete



This has got my head spining! So, what if there's some sort of inbetween truth to this all? Between this and the new Ark of the Covenant TIAI post, I'm starting to think that might be the case. What if Michael really did "kill himself", like Conrad Murray claims. What if he actually did physically die? But still had the whole thing planned out and still had great purpose? What if he believes the end of the world or some kind of major moment in time is coming (4 years to get it right), such as Jesus returning perhaps...? And if Jesus is returning and Michael is "special" like we all believe him to be... then maybe he will be returning as an angel (Archangel Michael) with Jesus (an angel himself). I feel like something huge just clicked in my head. Sounds a little far out but at this point in my existence I can honestly say that I believe anything is possible.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 28, 2012, 01:19:46 AM
Thanks for posting the vidoes to the memorial at the start of this topic Souza. Made it a lot easier for this technically challenged individual.
Here's the  link for video 1 if anyone's wanting to rewatch  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1WkUgdWQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1WkUgdWQs) The rest of them follow part 1 on YouTube.
As the gold promethean casket is wheeled/steered in by the Brothers, Andrea Crouch's choir sing the old gospel song "Hallelujah, we're going to see the King".

Pastor Luscius Smith[ forgive my spelling throughout] said Michael was a member of the Jackson family and the family of man. He was setting the tone for the memorial.  Was this deliberately done to draw the comparison between  Michael the man in contrast to the image of Michael, the King of Pop.
There was emphasis on the word moment...a moment of remembrance....of healing....of comfort.....of music...of love. I couldn't help but think of Back and the line in theory or vision where he back-planted this thought. on the 6-25-09 tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. Yes, this moment that took place in the Staples center is visually stapled to our minds. And as Melody highlighted in part of Luscius's speech, we are urged to make that change personally, celebrate our uniqueness, respect our differences and to look in the heart of every man, woman, boy and girl and desire truly to reach that person. Sort of set the theme for the hoax right there. We come from all over, we all have unique ideas but we all have a heart for MJ and to know the truth.

Mariah  sings I'll Be There.  A pact to bring salvation back. Once again very appropriate lyrics from the biblical perspective.

Latifah brings up the point that even tho Michael was the biggest star on earth, he was one of us...a human being first. Mia Angelou's poem says He came to us from the creator. He gave us all he had been given.

Once again, I learn something previously not known. Lionel Richie actually wrote the song he sings at the memorial called Jesus is Love. I gotta add, I adore this song and Lionel singing it.  :-*

 
Quote
Verse 1
Father, help Your children,
and don't let them fall by the side of the road.
And teach them to love one another,
that heaven might find
a place in their hearts.

Chorus
'Cause Jesus is love,
He won't let you down.
And I know He's mine
forever in my heart.

Verse 2
We've got to walk through temptation,
'cause His love and His wisdom
will be our helpin' hand.
And I know the truth
and His word will be our salvation;
lift up our hearts
to be thankful and glad.

Chorus

Bridge
'Cause His love's the power, (power)
His love's the glory (glory)
Forever (ever and ever);
(yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

Verse 3
I wanna follow Your star,
wherever it leads me,
and I don't mind,
Lord, I hope You don't mind.
I wanna walk with You
,and talk with You,
and do all the things You want me to do

Vamp 1
Jesus is love, I know,
and if you ask, I'll show,
love is the word forever.

Vamp 2
Jesus (3x),
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jesus Is Love.....It's All For LOVE.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on January 28, 2012, 02:01:44 AM
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When I'm seeing the global protests against ACTA agreement... I'm thinking - did Michael know something about it??
I'm not sure VeryLittleSuzi. Something to keep watching that's for certain
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edit to add that the YANA video now in hindsight puts me in mind of Adam and Eve in the garden.  At the time I was like...hey guys ...keep that private for yourselves....Wow do I have some homework ahead .

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yes i think i might also. God knows i could never make any sense out of it at all until it hit me ( one of those revelations that wakes you in the night kind of thing).
I'm hearin' ya. Then there is the part in the video where MJ is looking at a scene with a  waterfall and lush green garden that becomes a barren, dry, desolate place.  Our fall?

Jaci.  :-* How wonderful to hear from you. How is your recording going?
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This has got my head spining! So, what if there's some sort of inbetween truth to this all? Between this and the new Ark of the Covenant TIAI post, I'm starting to think that might be the case. What if Michael really did "kill himself", like Conrad Murray claims. What if he actually did physically die? But still had the whole thing planned out and still had great purpose? What if he believes the end of the world or some kind of major moment in time is coming (4 years to get it right), such as Jesus returning perhaps...? And if Jesus is returning and Michael is "special" like we all believe him to be... then maybe he will be returning as an angel (Archangel Michael) with Jesus (an angel himself). I feel like something huge just clicked in my head. Sounds a little far out but at this point in my existence I can honestly say that I believe anything is possible.
This is only my 2 cents worth, but I don't believe MJ literally died on the 25th June. My interpretation is that the Archangel Michael Back is referring to is in keeping with Michael's Jehovah Witness belief that Jesus and Archangel Michael are the same.  This thought sort of became more forefront in my thought processes since The Signs last post where he went into detail about the Jesus/ Archangel Michael part. It also works as a parallel for the hoax script too. And this is Michael's hoax, so I am trying to interpret it by considering his views.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: curls on January 28, 2012, 02:27:01 AM
The YANA video was inspired by artist Maxwell Parrish's painting, 'Daybreak'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_%28painting%29

From the wiki article: In 1995 Michael Jackson produced a music video, "You Are Not Alone", featuring himself and his then wife, Lisa Marie Presley, in which they appear semi-nude in emulation of Daybreak.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Daybreak_by_Parrish_%281922%29.jpg/350px-Daybreak_by_Parrish_%281922%29.jpg)

Daybreak
Artist    Maxfield Parrish
Year    1922
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: SimPattyK on January 28, 2012, 01:40:54 PM
I also posted something on YANA and the pillars here http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22042.msg387128#msg387128
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 03, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
Berry Gordy.
MJ was the consumate student. Michael accomplished everything he dreamed of. [That is an unusual statement if one is to believe MJ died before his planned return to the world stage]
Micheal loved creating what had never been created before.
He had two personalities...on stage, he turned into another person. Kind of brings the story of Saul in 1Sam 10.6  to mind for me.

Al Sharpton was in  the zone. He came out with both barrels blazing, and with the predominant theme of overcoming.
Notable quotes....
Michael never let the world turn him around from his dream.
He refused to let people decide his boundaries.
MJ brought black, white, asian and latinos together.
People became interconnected through his music.
Michael made us LOVE each other.
It's not about mess...it's about his LOVE MESSAGE
Everytime he got knocked down, he got back up.
Wasn't nothing strange about your daddy--It was strange what he had to deal with. He dealt with it anyway.

Martin Luther and Bernice King.
Heaven and earth did pause to say he did his job well.
Michael's love and work were inspired by the love of God, and rose above individual concerns to the broader concerns of humanity.
Bernice mentioned that Michael prayed every day on his knees for her mother during her illness before her passing and that he considered her "true" american royalty.
Michael was full of the unconditional love of God.
May we all be inspired to go and let our lights shine.

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson
Said she was representing every man and every woman.
She opened by having a dig at the injustice of the trial and trial by media manipulation [my interpretation]
Then mentions all faiths are to be respected
She called Michael 'The good samaritan' saying he was all about charity and love.
MJ who cared and loved all the world.
Michael fought for tolerance for all people
Michael never stopped giving.

Smokey Robinson

Michael is going to live forever and ever and ever and ever.
I believe so much in God. I believe so much that this is not it. [ Interesting use of words considering TII and TINI had not yet surfaced ]
He's in a place where he's going to live forever. [many references to eternal life/salvation]

Sharheen thanks Michael for blessing him and every single individual on this earth. [ that's a big thankyou there unless it alludes to the BAM wake up call that will be heard in all parts of the world]
Kenny O invited the world to join us here at Michael's house where there was preparation for "his triumphant return to the world".....[why does this sound like the return of Christ here?]

The Family
Jermaine
I was his voice....and his back-bone. I had his back. So did the family. [ Right here we have a tie in with Aaron being the voice or spokesperson for Moses and references to Back being a family member or members]

Marlon
We will never understand what he endured. Being judged, ridiculed. How much pain can one take.
Michael was the voice of our angelic trumpets and he will continue to be the voice, the angelic voice nearest the creator.
The Lord has a purpose for everything. Sometimes we can't see it or understand it...But it will be made clear to us. [Marlon....I just want to remind you that you said this...I'm am still waiting for clarity here and will continue to do so]
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 05, 2012, 09:16:04 PM
These religious symbols appeared on the big screen during the performance of We Are The World, interspersed with words from the song.
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There were represented symbols of every major religion.

Media made the comment that Mr Jackson's memorial contained a spiritual tone-- with a gospel choir, golden casket and the cross of light upon the casket.
The memorial was watched by an estimated 2.5 billion people worldwide according to the BBC.

An account of the memorial from an attendee in the 11th row.
No one was expecting the casket to be brought to the arena and the ceremony began to take on a completely different aspect.
It was then she realized she was not attending a musical celebration of his life, but his funeral ceremony.
As she was filing out of the Staples Center after the conclusion of the ceremony, she glanced behind her at the stage, now devoid of people and left empty, save for one lone spotlight.

Looking at this part of the memorial, one could debate many points and they could all be valid. But one point that would be true from whichever angle we view this is the inclusiveness represented here. This is the perfect opportunity to include a  favourite quote of mine from Dr Kent Hovind....there is only one race....the human race...we just come in different colours.

We as the human race are all born into the same condition.

The message I take from this is we are all in this together.

May the truth prevail.

Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 06, 2012, 05:49:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw4Fxvy51pI&feature=player_profilepage
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw4Fxvy51pI&feature=player_profilepage[/youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsA4-LjXO00
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsA4-LjXO00[/youtube]
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 06, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
Hey 2good. That second video has an interesting perspective that I would not have had the ability to piece together. Thanks for contributing. 
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 06, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
What else was going on in the world while we all focussed on the memorial?
I am posting these two videos that Imconvinced posted in TIAI today as they are also applicable to our studies here. I remember seeing these videos very early on in the hoax and thank you my dear friend for bringing them back to my remembrance.  Don't be put off by the way 4runner speaks about MJ being a dead man, but look at what slipped by unnoticed by most on the 7/7.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVe3p0vCsxQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related)
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: wishingstar on February 06, 2012, 11:35:16 PM
Hey RK.....

I didn't want you to think I abandoned your great thread!  I definitely have not.  I have watched and watched those videos you posted.  I keep getting struck by the same thing.......that is one smiling memorial service.  Then I did something I had never done........I watched them in silence....the volume was off.  It was actually really odd to me.  Though I knew what was going on, my mind registered it different.......it was a happy celebration of Michael...not a solum memorial.  If I didn't know what it was, and saw it in silence for the very first time........I would have thought it was a play, a musical or some tribute.  Even when the casket came out....it wasn't real feeling.  The family stood up....OK.  However, the emotional ties just didn't last for me.  I have been through the death of both my parents......my dad was well known in the community.  I understand having to hold your head up and get through it, I had to speak in public about my father as well.
Watching them in silence reminded me of Michael's words in TII........during the Earth Song part where he talks about the value being greater if it open with a loud rumble....and closed in silence.  I once wrote about that in a post....this whole hoax is like that.  It opened with the loudest bang/rumble possible, Michael's death.  Then it closed in silence with a night-time funeral/or even the silence of Murray now behind bars.   It was shock and awe at it's finest. 
I think I am going to re-watch the ambulance video in silence.....my senses are heightened in silence.  Perhaps something will pop out to me that I haven't seen before.
Anyways.....like I said, RK....just wanted you to know I am still pondering this memorial.  I really think things were right in front of our eyes all along....if we could just see them.  Blessings to you and thank you again for this thread!!

Blessings to all
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: 2good2btrue on February 07, 2012, 03:25:17 AM
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What else was going on in the world while we all focussed on the memorial?
I am posting these two videos that Imconvinced posted in TIAI today as they are also applicable to our studies here. I remember seeing these videos very early on in the hoax and thank you my dear friend for bringing them back to my remembrance.  Don't be put off by the way 4runner speaks about MJ being a dead man, but look at what slipped by unnoticed by most on the 7/7.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVe3p0vCsxQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z89v1gjs62c&feature=related)


Yeh...I definitely remember this....  The only question I have, is WHY would MJ plan his memorial on the same day as this huge announcement??  Or was it the illuminati that planned the announcement on the same day as the memorial, knowing that everyone would be tuning into the memorial and would not be aware of anything else going on in the world?? 
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 08, 2012, 10:31:01 PM
Sorry for my slow reply guys. Not enough hours in a day sometimes.
Wishingstar, it is good to watch body language without distraction of audio happening. I find watching Paris while Marlon is speaking very interesting. You know the whole playing with her purse and then her ear[piece], Janet saying something to her and her quick acknowledgement.  8-) Here it is again....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6sGAVU5XmY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6sGAVU5XmY)

2Good, the possible scenarios here can make you explore and entertain many directions  :shock:. The numbers/dates have to be of relevance. For both. 7/7/2009.....14+11=25 which equals another 7. PTB like triple numbers and in this instance God's number7. My book on bible numerics states 7 is the number of completeness, perfection and multiples of these numbers, or doubling or tripling carry basically the same meaning, only intensifying the truth. In the mouths of two or three witnesses let every word  be established. 2Cor13:1[just throwing that scripture in here as it popped into my mind]. So, is it possible we have the pope who is masquerading as Christ's voice [more like  plain outright false christ] choosing these numbers/date to tag his message,  and try to authenticate it by usage of the personal number of Jesus Christ. a counterfeit trying to appear as the real deal. Thats all I got for now.

SimPattiK...I'm working my way to Maura's vids. I've always loved her video work. Thanks again for posting them.  beerchug 
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 09:12:01 AM
Now lets take another look at the memorial booklet
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program (http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program)
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Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 09:16:57 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program (http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program)
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Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program (http://www.scribd.com/doc/17211786/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Program)

(http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/72pvy06gjkblr4e/images/8-20d71d56e1.jpg)
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 09:53:56 AM
(http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/72pvy06gjkblr4e/images/14-54395f1bee.jpg)
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Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on February 24, 2012, 10:46:28 AM
There are so many wonderful pictures and  photo montages within the memorial booklet. I am typing out the rest of the comments as I am worried I will  slow things down on here if I post them all. :oops:  Maybe I already have.

My friend is gone and my heart is broken. I will now concentrate on the friendship, the laughter and the practical jokes--and I will forever honour his requests and make sure I live up to them.
Love Frank AKA Uncle Tookie.

From the deepest part of my heart, dearest Michael, I know that your soul is now resting in Divine Love--embraced by the purity of Love Eternal. In our hearts, as one voice, we will strive to honour your memory, support your legacy and your precious family whilewe weep with bleeding hearts.
I love you, more
Evvy

Uncle Michael, I can't even begin to express how important you have always been in my life. You'll ALWAYS be a hugh part of who I am now and what I will become in the future.
I Love You, Applehead
Taj.

You have filled my life with knowledge laughter happiness and love. To the world, Michael Jackson is the greatest---to me, Uncle Michael is even better.
I love you beyond life
Taryll

You taught me how to smile. You taught me how to dream. You taught me how to live. Uncle Michael, I will always cherish all of our special moments and blissful times together.
I love you so much
TJ

I met Michael Jackson during a very dark period. The forces of evil were trying to take him away from us. The man I came to know was a kind, gentle soul who wanted to heal the world through music, art, love and decency. He succeeded. It was an honour and a privledge to defend him.
Rest in peace Michael.
Thomas A Messereau Jn

Dear Michael, the last 17 years with you I will never forget. Thankyou for your love and your understanding. Thankyou for entrusting me with your precious children. My love for them will never waiver. Through the peaks and the valleys we laughed hard, we cried, but through it all you taught me to always rise above it. I miss you so much but I know you are in a better place. Rest in peace my friend.
with love,
Grace Rwaramba.

And here is a link to pictures taken backstage at the memorial.
http://staging.accesshollywood.com/content/images/97/400x400bd/97665_magic-johnson-and-miko-brando-attend-michael-jacksons-public-memorial-service-at-the-staples-center-.jpg (http://staging.accesshollywood.com/content/images/97/400x400bd/97665_magic-johnson-and-miko-brando-attend-michael-jacksons-public-memorial-service-at-the-staples-center-.jpg)
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/97/400x400bd/97665.jpg)
A picture of the heartbroken Miko and Magic
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on March 06, 2012, 06:09:16 AM
I came across this little book at a jumble sale yesterday and it's cover reminded me of the symbols shown on the big screen at the memorial. It is a Jehovah Witness publication originally published [red cover version] in 1990.
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Book Description
Publication Date: 1990
Excerpt of review by John W. Scott John W. Scott This 384-page book features a detailed review of the major religions of the world, exploring the various ways of worship, cultural background, lands and peoples. It reviews the seemingly instinctual and universal need to worship, that seems to be present in all cultures, as well as the various forms through history in which that need has manifested itself. Primitive religions such as animism, as well as the history to modern day practice of Hinduism, including Yoga are considered, as well as Hinduism development into Buddhism. Other Oriental religions such as Taoism and Confucianism are also considered. A small section also describes the Sikh religion. The various forms of Judaism are discussed, with a history that goes back some thousands of years to the first Jew, Abraham, as well as the other two major monotheistic religions, Islam and Christianity. The Christian section considers both the background and life and ministry of Jesus Christ, as well as the primitive and developed practice of Christianity, the Dark Ages and the development of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the Reformation, Protestantism, and modern day Christianity. There is a chapter which considers the historical development of Jehovah's Witnesses, and a section on modern day disbelief which touches on both Darwinism, and worship of the state in socialist countries. The book is factual, non-judgmental, accurate, and it is a complete reference that is equal to an advanced college course on world religion. The only thing lacking in Mankind's Search for God is information on some of the smaller Christian religions in modern times, that is Later Day Saints and Seventh Day Adventists, as well as more details on the present state of 21st Century Evangelicals. Other than that, one can consider it to be both a complete and authoritative guide on world religion.

This is a quote from Jermaine's interview with MJJC.
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MJJC: This is kind of random, but did Michael ever express any interest in Islam or becoming a Muslim? There were many rumors swirling around in the months after his death that said he was a Muslim

Jermaine Jackson: Michael did not convert to Islam. He was curious about it and I gave him many books to read about Islam. I write in the book how, during his 2005 trial, he returned to the Kingdom Hall to pray. It's fair to say that he died a Jehovah Witness.

I am in the process of reading it now.  However,  the thought [once again]  crossed my mind that the memorial was like a great big fishing net that was cast out into the community, via the death hoax. An invitation to all who were spiritually inclined, to dig deeper to find what exactly Michael was trying to convey through the memorial and it's messages.  Perhaps this was the only way a superstar like MJ  could fullfill the great commission and  come to our individual homes to share the good news of the kingdom.....via our television sets or computer screen.  TS has said that Michael retained some of the Jehovah Witness beliefs....I'm betting that warning his fans and fellow human beings about what is on the earth's horizon, and how to be prepared for it would be a part of that. 
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on March 10, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
The family members talk post memorial
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"I was really proud, People said to me that Michael's daughter speaking really gave them a sense of how he was as a father, in her words. Paris is incredibly smart; they are all so smart. She's a sweet girl. The kids are doing well. They're with all their cousins; that family love will keep them going. [… ] I always wanted to have my mother's [Katherine Jackson] strength, but I didn't know if it was really there. But a few years back, something happened and I learned that I did. I'm not going to mention it [her brother’s trial ended with his vindication], but we all know what it is. And now, coming off all this, it's even beyond that. I was just focused on my job at that moment within my family. Now at least I know that I can step up to the plate and not crumble when I'm needed. When it comes to something like this that is so, so serious, so painful, so traumatic, I can handle it. […] "My brother is, I mean was...you have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. When I was 14 years old, I would shop for him. [Michael was then 21 and a megastar.] I washed his clothes, cleaned his room. When Mother would go out of town, she'd say, 'I'm leaving you in charge. Take care of Mike.' I would head home from school, see what he needed, then go straight to the stores. You know something else? He loved to wear his shoes all the way down. His penny loafers would have huge holes in the bottom. We had so much fun back then. We would organize our days together. […] Michael was a big brother. He was always very protective of me. He loved to laugh. The last time we were together, he'd laugh so hard, he would just start crying. Sometimes his humor would be corny, sometimes dry. He loved the Three Stooges, he loved slapstick, he loved Eddie Murphy in his silly comedies. He loved to have fun. He loved to play. […] (if given one more day with my brother, I would) relive that moment we had when we were kids, do our little run: We’d wake up, feed the animals, spend the entire day together. [… ] It's so beyond (his music). I can't even begin. It's on so many different levels. Bringing light and love and happiness. He's just got so much love, and so much heart, and so much power through his music. Children and his love for children. People have told me, 'I am an American citizen because of your brother.' He wrote them a letter or something. He was just that giving, loving person. […] And is. I hope people get a glimpse of him now, some sort of picture. […] You know, I never look back on what I've done unless I'm asked. You need to stop and enjoy it. Think about everything you've done, all that you've accomplished. […]”


[Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson’s sister, American recording artist and actress - interviewed by Harper’s Bazaar fashion magazine; source: http://www.harpersbazaar.com]

Always spoken of in present tense.

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“The tragedy of my brother’s death is still with me. But in his death, I have found a mission for my life. My existence is now dedicated to spreading Michael’s message. Michael had a unique place in the world. He not only did good, but taught others how to do the same. This only magnifies his loss to the world.

I want to make people aware of the humanitarian side of Michael. I want to show them how his true emphasis wasn’t music, or performing; it was improving the world. Understand this, and you begin to understand the essence of who my brother was. Michael wanted to help people see the problems that are destroying our world. That’s what he was about, and what HIS upcoming shows were about. He was trying to teach through his lyrics, video and performance. He wanted to use every part of himself to show us what we are capable of becoming. His goal was to demonstrate to people that if we all just try to make world a better place, it will be.

Michael did charity work all his life – since we first started performing as the Jackson 5. He quickly learned talent alone means nothing – it’s what you do with it that really matters. What are you doing to make things better for other people? In grasping this, Michael found his purpose: Entertain and educate at the same time. Michael grew to understand why the world is in the state it is. He would ask “Why?” but not get trapped in trying to find reasons for each and every problem. His aim was finding solutions. His message was about solutions. Michael’s day-to-day thought process was: “How do I make the world a better place?” He dedicated his existence to responding to this question, and to giving a voice to those who can’t speak out for themselves. Man in the Mirror, We are the World, Will You Be There – all these songs put forward a simple but powerful message: If someone is hungry, give them food, but also help them become self-sufficient. Michael taught us that when you do good, you start with the individual, then move onto a family, a neighborhood, a village, a nation.

Michael always looked for the good in people, but he also wanted people to understand him, and what he was here for. This made the ridicule he endured so much harder to bear. How can someone who gave so much, be the subject of so much hate? Why is it, the more blessed we are, the tougher our times are destined to be? My brother wasn’t a threat to anyone. He was at peace, and his peaceful state was a blessing from God. Michael was given the rare talent to entertain, sing and perform. But the true blessing God gave him was the ability to use his talents to do good for others. Michael’s songs inspired us to do better. That was his true gift.

We still feel Michael’s loss. But what will happen as time passes? What will happen to Michael’s real purpose for being? Who can carry on Michael’s work selflessly, without ulterior motive? Nations and governments are capable of good deeds, but those good deeds are too often done to exert control over others. Michael never wanted to control anybody, he only wanted to spread happiness and joy. Michael supported over 30 different charities. Most people, even the most generous, focus their efforts on just a handful. But Michael was different. He would personally check every charity he supported. He’d examine their track records make sure they did what they said they would do.

Michael’s generosity extended beyond the charities he supported. When a girl needed a liver transplant and no one wanted to pay for it, Michael took care of it. No fanfare, no publicity. There are so many cases like this! Many of them, I myself, am just beginning to learn about. Every time Michael traveled to another country, he would devote time to visiting hospitals, orphanages, cancer patients. That was his calling. In every corner of the globe, this was his routine. The world needs to know this is who he was. Because while there were always cameras following him, the media didn’t tell the story of his caring and compassion. They only wanted to sensationalize him. Michael didn’t care if we knew everything he did for people, because God knows. God knows his intentions, and knows the results. I know my brother is in a very secure, serene, peaceful place. When we live on earth, we are judged not only by who we are, but also by what we do for others. When we leave, we take the good and bad deeds with us. Michael took nothing but good deeds with him.

Michael and I were raised to believe there is a Supreme Being. Having success told us God had a plan for us. Michael used his success in a positive way. He knew that it’s not what you get from others, it’s what you do for others. We all achieve things in life, but the greatest achievement is doing God’s work. Michael was a man of God because he was doing His work. Eternal life is the ultimate reward from God – and Michael has eternal life.”

[Jermaine Jackson, brother of Michael Jackson, singer: source: http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com]

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...] We’ve lost an incredible person, Barbara, and I don't think we'll find a person as talented, a person who thought the way he thought. A person with the heart that Michael has, Barbara. People aren't that way anymore. He’s special. He wasn't God, but he was certainly God-like. He was the closest thing to a god that I knew. And I’m gonna miss that.”

[La Toya Jackson, Michael Jackson’s sister, American singer-songwriter, author, actress – interview with ABC’s Barbara Walters 20/20: source: www.youtube.com]

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“He was a great father to his kids, you know?...(The children) are doing wonderful, I just saw them right before I came right here (for the launch of This Is It DVD in Australia, March, 2010), and I told them I was coming, they wanted to come with me. ‘Uncle Jackie, can we come?’ I said ‘No, you gotta stay in school’, so…[…] He loved his fans. He loved children, people, he loved his fans, he treated his fans the best, ‘cause he knew without the fans, he wouldn’t be where he is today.”


[Jackie Jackson, source: www.youtube.com]

Jackie says without the fans MJ wouldn't be where he is today.   :? I'm sure you were talking in regards to success and not being 'dead' Jackie.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: crina on March 11, 2012, 12:54:58 AM
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The family members talk post memorial
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"I was really proud, People said to me that Michael's daughter speaking really gave them a sense of how he was as a father, in her words. Paris is incredibly smart; they are all so smart. She's a sweet girl. The kids are doing well. They're with all their cousins; that family love will keep them going. [… ] I always wanted to have my mother's [Katherine Jackson] strength, but I didn't know if it was really there. But a few years back, something happened and I learned that I did. I'm not going to mention it [her brother’s trial ended with his vindication], but we all know what it is. And now, coming off all this, it's even beyond that. I was just focused on my job at that moment within my family. Now at least I know that I can step up to the plate and not crumble when I'm needed. When it comes to something like this that is so, so serious, so painful, so traumatic, I can handle it. […] "My brother is, I mean was...you have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. When I was 14 years old, I would shop for him. [Michael was then 21 and a megastar.] I washed his clothes, cleaned his room. When Mother would go out of town, she'd say, 'I'm leaving you in charge. Take care of Mike.' I would head home from school, see what he needed, then go straight to the stores. You know something else? He loved to wear his shoes all the way down. His penny loafers would have huge holes in the bottom. We had so much fun back then. We would organize our days together. […] Michael was a big brother. He was always very protective of me. He loved to laugh. The last time we were together, he'd laugh so hard, he would just start crying. Sometimes his humor would be corny, sometimes dry. He loved the Three Stooges, he loved slapstick, he loved Eddie Murphy in his silly comedies. He loved to have fun. He loved to play. […] (if given one more day with my brother, I would) relive that moment we had when we were kids, do our little run: We’d wake up, feed the animals, spend the entire day together. [… ] It's so beyond (his music). I can't even begin. It's on so many different levels. Bringing light and love and happiness. He's just got so much love, and so much heart, and so much power through his music. Children and his love for children. People have told me, 'I am an American citizen because of your brother.' He wrote them a letter or something. He was just that giving, loving person. […] And is. I hope people get a glimpse of him now, some sort of picture. […] You know, I never look back on what I've done unless I'm asked. You need to stop and enjoy it. Think about everything you've done, all that you've accomplished. […]”


[Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson’s sister, American recording artist and actress - interviewed by Harper’s Bazaar fashion magazine; source: http://www.harpersbazaar.com]

Always spoken of in present tense.

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“The tragedy of my brother’s death is still with me. But in his death, I have found a mission for my life. My existence is now dedicated to spreading Michael’s message. Michael had a unique place in the world. He not only did good, but taught others how to do the same. This only magnifies his loss to the world.

I want to make people aware of the humanitarian side of Michael. I want to show them how his true emphasis wasn’t music, or performing; it was improving the world. Understand this, and you begin to understand the essence of who my brother was. Michael wanted to help people see the problems that are destroying our world. That’s what he was about, and what HIS upcoming shows were about. He was trying to teach through his lyrics, video and performance. He wanted to use every part of himself to show us what we are capable of becoming. His goal was to demonstrate to people that if we all just try to make world a better place, it will be.

Michael did charity work all his life – since we first started performing as the Jackson 5. He quickly learned talent alone means nothing – it’s what you do with it that really matters. What are you doing to make things better for other people? In grasping this, Michael found his purpose: Entertain and educate at the same time. Michael grew to understand why the world is in the state it is. He would ask “Why?” but not get trapped in trying to find reasons for each and every problem. His aim was finding solutions. His message was about solutions. Michael’s day-to-day thought process was: “How do I make the world a better place?” He dedicated his existence to responding to this question, and to giving a voice to those who can’t speak out for themselves. Man in the Mirror, We are the World, Will You Be There – all these songs put forward a simple but powerful message: If someone is hungry, give them food, but also help them become self-sufficient. Michael taught us that when you do good, you start with the individual, then move onto a family, a neighborhood, a village, a nation.

Michael always looked for the good in people, but he also wanted people to understand him, and what he was here for. This made the ridicule he endured so much harder to bear. How can someone who gave so much, be the subject of so much hate? Why is it, the more blessed we are, the tougher our times are destined to be? My brother wasn’t a threat to anyone. He was at peace, and his peaceful state was a blessing from God. Michael was given the rare talent to entertain, sing and perform. But the true blessing God gave him was the ability to use his talents to do good for others. Michael’s songs inspired us to do better. That was his true gift.

We still feel Michael’s loss. But what will happen as time passes? What will happen to Michael’s real purpose for being? Who can carry on Michael’s work selflessly, without ulterior motive? Nations and governments are capable of good deeds, but those good deeds are too often done to exert control over others. Michael never wanted to control anybody, he only wanted to spread happiness and joy. Michael supported over 30 different charities. Most people, even the most generous, focus their efforts on just a handful. But Michael was different. He would personally check every charity he supported. He’d examine their track records make sure they did what they said they would do.

Michael’s generosity extended beyond the charities he supported. When a girl needed a liver transplant and no one wanted to pay for it, Michael took care of it. No fanfare, no publicity. There are so many cases like this! Many of them, I myself, am just beginning to learn about. Every time Michael traveled to another country, he would devote time to visiting hospitals, orphanages, cancer patients. That was his calling. In every corner of the globe, this was his routine. The world needs to know this is who he was. Because while there were always cameras following him, the media didn’t tell the story of his caring and compassion. They only wanted to sensationalize him. Michael didn’t care if we knew everything he did for people, because God knows. God knows his intentions, and knows the results. I know my brother is in a very secure, serene, peaceful place. When we live on earth, we are judged not only by who we are, but also by what we do for others. When we leave, we take the good and bad deeds with us. Michael took nothing but good deeds with him.

Michael and I were raised to believe there is a Supreme Being. Having success told us God had a plan for us. Michael used his success in a positive way. He knew that it’s not what you get from others, it’s what you do for others. We all achieve things in life, but the greatest achievement is doing God’s work. Michael was a man of God because he was doing His work. Eternal life is the ultimate reward from God – and Michael has eternal life.”

[Jermaine Jackson, brother of Michael Jackson, singer: source: http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com]

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...] We’ve lost an incredible person, Barbara, and I don't think we'll find a person as talented, a person who thought the way he thought. A person with the heart that Michael has, Barbara. People aren't that way anymore. He’s special. He wasn't God, but he was certainly God-like. He was the closest thing to a god that I knew. And I’m gonna miss that.”

[La Toya Jackson, Michael Jackson’s sister, American singer-songwriter, author, actress – interview with ABC’s Barbara Walters 20/20: source: www.youtube.com]

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“He was a great father to his kids, you know?...(The children) are doing wonderful, I just saw them right before I came right here (for the launch of This Is It DVD in Australia, March, 2010), and I told them I was coming, they wanted to come with me. ‘Uncle Jackie, can we come?’ I said ‘No, you gotta stay in school’, so…[…] He loved his fans. He loved children, people, he loved his fans, he treated his fans the best, ‘cause he knew without the fans, he wouldn’t be where he is today.”


[Jackie Jackson, source: www.youtube.com]

Jackie says without the fans MJ wouldn't be where he is today.   :? I'm sure you were talking in regards to success and not being 'dead' Jackie.




Of course present tense. He didn't died. bearhug
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on March 11, 2012, 11:28:39 PM
Absolutely right Crina.

 So many biblical examples and parallels within this hoax, from Usher touching the golden casket, like Uzzah did in the Old Testament, and setting the tone for the redirects and bible verses that came soon after. Just like the book of Genesis has the book of completion / fullfillment - Revelations-  there in seed form, so the death and memorial remind me of the passover feast  with the resurrection component or similarity in' hoax speak ' happening on 9/9/09, like the festival of the wave sheaf or first fruits. Which brings us to Pentecost---the hoax equivelent of walking, being led by and communicating  prophetically with the indwelling Spirit of God. Not unlike our hoax adventure. Most of us are convinced we have informers and insiders who direct and lead us along hoax paths to desired destinations and topics---something so very similar to one's walk in the spirit--an impossibility to explain to anyone from the outside looking on--but impossible to dissuade anyone who is walking this way.  We hoax travellers may also be hard to fathom from others looking on. 
TS has brought up the feasts of the Lord  in Sign 2, and we know that the first 3 feasts have already transpired antitypically when Jesus came the first time, through his priestly work of his death and resurrection, ascension, and the out pouring of the Holy Spirit.
That leaves us with the feast of trumpets , Yom Kippur and then Tabernacles.
The trumpets were sounded for an alarm. Blow the trumpet in Zion, sound an alarm on my holy mountain.   from Joel   . The Army of LOVE needs to become activated into action. It started with with the man or woman in the mirror, as we saw our own reflection in the brazen laver while washing in the water of God's word, now it's  time to take the step outside the door and start the healing process, taking Love and compassion with us.
Yom Kippur is a feast I don't have much on. TS pointed this out in Sign 2 and he is spot on. The little I have read makes me think of afflicting ones soul and fasting...all pointing me to prayer burden and concern for the state of humanity and our family and friends as well ourselves with our isolated and untouchable existence, so far removed from our brother and sister's sufferings and experiences.  A broken heart for the PAINS of the world. While there is time, because the feast of Tabernacles is fast approaching, when all mortality shall put on immortality....so we've already had the resurrection , and the return....and we are waiting for the reveal...not the piece by piece reveal, that has been the unveiling for the hoax, but the BAM reveal...when every eye shall see Him or at least is going to know about it...also modelled after the 2nd advent. 

I  use this thread as a place to keep thoughts in a coherent line and accessable and with that, I jotted down a few things today from TIAI '09
A death hoax with much bigger implications.....
A way to get the attention of the whole world
All clues leading us to look at a world wide conspiracy...against the entire world
This is the ultimate good versus bad scenario
God's plan to use Michael in His battle against the evil conspiracies in this world.
It is time for everyone to STUDY peace.


 
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: wishingstar on March 12, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
*sigh*
RK, I read and read the family notes....they just tug at my heart something fierce.  His large extended family adores him, as they should.  I can't even imagine being in the family.  My family is not that large....so neither is the extended part of aunts/uncles.  I think it's so cool to have such a large family with cousins, nephews, nieces, uncles, aunts....it's amazing and a true blessing. 
Thanks again for this thread.......it's amazing to look back and be able to read this and see the pictures so well......
You're a blessing RK!!!!!

LOVE
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on March 12, 2012, 12:06:13 AM
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*sigh*
RK, I read and read the family notes....they just tug at my heart something fierce.  His large extended family adores him, as they should.  I can't even imagine being in the family.  My family is not that large....so neither is the extended part of aunts/uncles.  I think it's so cool to have such a large family with cousins, nephews, nieces, uncles, aunts....it's amazing and a true blessing. 
Thanks again for this thread.......it's amazing to look back and be able to read this and see the pictures so well......
You're a blessing RK!!!!!

LOVE

Love you wish....I'm just thinking aloud in here.  And you've got us wish. We are a family.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: wishingstar on March 12, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
Love you too RK......I am so appreciative of all the thinking aloud here : )
It's such a help to keep my own thoughts going in new and fresh directions.....and to revisit things as well!.
Thanks!

Blessings to you always
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: MJonmind on March 12, 2012, 02:29:07 AM
RK, I want to thank you for putting all the MJ memorial parts in this thread. Knowing MJ creatively was behind this event in the many interesting details makes it all the more interesting. And yes, seeing the love his extended family had for him says so much, although I think for many years he rarely saw his siblings, because he was busy with his touring and kids, and perhaps was avoiding their pressure to tour with him.  I do think MJ has planned for his family to take such a major star role in the hoax to share a measure of fame with them and financially bless them, an act of love on his part.


I love the music and words spoken in the whole program, and to me (though I know few agree with me), they point to the same thing Front and TS are saying, that Michael the archangel and Jesus were/are one, and that is who MJ is as well. I noted Marlon's words you quoted,
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Marlon
 We will never understand what he endured. Being judged, ridiculed. How much pain can one take.

 Michael was the voice of our angelic trumpets and he will continue to be the voice, the angelic voice nearest the creator.
 The Lord has a purpose for everything. Sometimes we can't see it or understand it...But it will be made clear to us.
It matches Front's words,
And with what Front says,
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If you're not a religious person…it matters not!
 If you think Front is Mickey Mouse…it matters not!
 If you're a religious person, have faith in God.
 If you're not, then have faith in Michael.
Soon and very soon we are going to see the king!


Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on March 13, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
@MJonmind.....I've always thought that Marlon's little speech would go well in the weird list. I'm waiting for it to be made clear to us for sure. We can't help but keep watching. It's going to be intriguing to see how this all comes out in the end.
ps. sorry for the short reply...once again I am late for work.....
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on April 17, 2012, 10:55:14 PM

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Michael Jackson: Spiritual Messenger Hiding in Plain Sight

Submitted by One Wordsmith on Sat, 2010-03-20 13:15
         
 
There are those rare visionaries who come along, maybe a few every millennia: the Bodhisattvas of the world. They are usually empaths who begin in childhood to literally feel the pain of the world and make vows to the cosmos early in life to change or improve it. They go about spreading awareness and mobilizing forces for change in order to make the world a better place. Counted among them are: Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., Mother Theresa, John Lennon, Lady Diana Spencer, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Mattie Stepanek, Nelson Mandela and a little Moonwalker.
 
The most famous man on earth literally stopped the world and the Internet when he became immortal on June 25, 2009. Michael Jackson was such a one— a cheerleader for humanity and a force for coalescing compassion and mobilizing global forces for change, philanthropy and social reform.  A global messenger, Michael’s rise to stardom afforded him visibility and a worldwide platform from which to broadcast his message. His boldness and artistry garnered attention and Michael knew how to get attention. When he pulled enough people in and had everybody’s attention—he emphatically delivered the message. It was cloaked in a form that everyone could understand—the universal language of music.

 
 As a child, he acutely felt the pain of the world and especially the world’s children. Michael’s words in his book Dancing the Dream reveal a thread of spirituality and mysticism rare for one so young. His body of work is filled with myth, metaphor and musical and visual story that encodes a stunning spiritual message for the human race. One has to look closely and deeper for the real message: his Ghost short film holds a jaw dropping message about humanity, mirror and shadow.
 
His Man in the Mirror song written by Siedah Garrett, became a Gandhi-esque anthem for a generation. He donated 100% of the proceeds of that song to charity as he did with many of his concerts including the Victory Tour with his brothers. Man in the Mirror encourages self reflection and mastery and being the change you wish to see in the world: “I’m starting with the man in the mirror; I’m asking him to change his ways; no message could have been any clearer; if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change.”
 

 
 Michael also produced They Don’t Care about Us and other songs to address police brutality and mistreatment by authority. His song and video Black or White changed minds and advanced racial equality and multicultural diversity. His We are the World composition with Lionel Richie and accompanying video gathered 39 of the most visible faces on earth to raise millions to save lives in Africa. Heal the World was sung by children around the globe and at the 1993 Super Bowl halftime show where the whole stadium became a collage of earth’s children of all races and ethnic origins. Michael was the impetus behind Live Aid, Band Aid and he is responsible for starting the trend for musicians and celebrities to engage in fundraising and philanthropy.
 
His environmental anthem and epic music video Earth Song, was a prominent feature of his planned comeback concert This Is It. Earth Song carries the message that we must become not only custodians but stewards of the planet or risk destroying or losing it. His spiritual messages in the form of self-reflection, commitment and action boldly took on: racism, inequality, war, poverty, gangs, illicit drugs, apathy, the misuse of power, evil, at risk youth, education, family bonds and a host of contemporary social issues. Videos of Earth Song Live can be found on You Tube stunningly raw in their emotion and stark in their message.
 Michael’s Don’t Stop till You get Enough is about the Force featured in Star Wars by George Lucas; he was a fan of both Lucas and Spielberg and he understood the concept of The Force, an intuitive conscious energy that permeates creation. He often said it was that intuitive energy, Force, or God who wrote his lyrics, performed and worked through him. He denied his own genius saying that his creativity and power didn’t come from him but through him. He writes about it Dancing the Dream. The last album Michael produced, Invincible included Cry, a song about us—meaning humanity the collective, being the chosen one and needing some kind of sign that we are: ‘on it’… the mission to change the world and create a better version of the human.

 


 
Michael’s international concerts featured a military tank screaming onto stage and a soldier who lays down his weapon for a child who extends an offering of peace. He organized concerts at the world’s troubled spots like the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea asking his promoters to send him where he was needed. He teamed up with Pavarotti in benefits for the Warchild organization to help children in Kosovo and Guatemala. He organized a series of benefit concerts in Germany and Korea. He recruited Slash, The Scorpions, Boyz II Men, Luther Vandross, Mariah Carey, A. R. Rahman, Prabhu Deva Sundaram, Shobana Chandrakumar, Andrea Bocelli and Luciano Pavarotti for the Michael Jackson and Friends concerts. The proceeds were donated to the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund, the Red Cross and UNESCO.
 
After the 9/11 terrorist attack in New York City, Michael Jackson helped organize the United We Stand: What More Can I Give benefit concert at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C., which aired on October 21, 2001 and included dozens of major artists. His song What More Can I Give was written for the benefit and he donated it to the 9/11 families. He founded the Michael Jackson Burn Center at Culver City Memorial Hospital in California. Attending President Clinton’s inauguration, he asked for more funding for AIDS research after Ryan White, another child he had befriended, died from the disease. Michael Jackson is listed in the Guinness World Book of Records as supporting the most charities of any entertainer—thirty nine of them.  He met with heads of state and marched with armies round the world.  The arm band he wore every day on his sleeve was homage to children and he vowed to wear it until there were no more wars on the planet and no more hungry children. His taped fingers were to remind him and us that there were still injured and suffering children in the world.
 

 
Michael, while on tour, would visit orphanages and hospitals in the countries where he played to concert audiences. He often met with leaders and if he found deplorable conditions during his visits, he would threaten to cancel a concert unless the conditions improved within 24 hours. No one ever ignored his demands for it would likely have caused citizen revolts. There are also hundreds of stories from people who were personally contacted by Michael Jackson. After a sniper opened fire at Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, California, Michael called the local sheriff to request an escort from the airport to the school to visit the children; Dave Dave was a child who was badly burned when his father doused him with kerosene and lit him on fire and Michael, upon hearing the story, insisted on meeting and befriending him; Bela Farcas needed a liver transplant when Michael met him at Bethesda Hospital in Budapest so Michael paid for his new liver; he funded burials for children whose families couldn’t afford them and in one case, he sent his sequined jacket and a glove for the child to be buried in; he donated clothing and belongings for fundraisers and was the recipient of humanitarian awards too many to mention during his life and more since the recognition of his contributions since his death.
 
For decades, his Neverland Valley Ranch hosted monthly guest vacations, whether he was there or traveling, for children who were: gravely ill, inner city, handicapped, poor, at risk youth, gang affiliated, disenfranchised and disillusioned. The video for his famous Beat It featured real gang members Michael recruited—the Crips and the Bloods who collaborated to film it; the two groups had never before cooperated on anything except violence. His work with children was legion and very dear to his heart. Twice during his career, his celebrity, wealth and deep pockets brought accusers and accusations into his life—of improprieties with children. The accusations hurt him deeply and were later proven false and attempts to extort money from him. Although found innocent, the ordeal of his 2005 trial had harmed his reputation and was deeply wounding causing him to never host children at his fantasy ranch, nor live there again. He left his home feeling it had been sullied irreversibly by unscrupulous accusers and underhanded law enforcement personnel. He would never again sleep in his bedroom, in fact sleeping at all became rare; his sleep problems escalated and eventually led to his untimely and eerie death.
 
Most of Jackson’s work asks us to be emissaries of change and the evolution of human consciousness. The man leaves in his wake, an unparalleled humanitarian legacy, planetary midwifery and the alchemical power of the Bodhisattva used to enhance humanity and the planet. Using voice, magic, majesty, artistry, dance, mystery, sensuality, musical genius, enchantment and colossal talent to get their attention, pull people in, and marshal forces to deliver his message Michael trumpeted the message: Heal the world, make it a better place; make that change and change the world.”
 
If one digs underneath the hype, sensationalism and medialoid portrayal of Jackson, one finds a visionary and true humanitarian. If one looks beyond the label of “crazed” attributed to his fans, one finds mostly intelligent, thoughtful people who quite possibly are the greatest legacy he left this world.  As the world’s most famous and visible global humanitarian and cheerleader, he leaves behind a worldwide family of 250 million admirers who are taking his teachings seriously. Michael always said his fans were his legacy. Many in the media have given them a cursory dismissal because of the “fan” label. But they got the message and they mean to be the change they want to see in the world and make it a better place. They are an army of humanitarians who are being the change. They mobilize themselves and resources for causes like the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile and others. They got Michael’s message and are weaving it into their lives.
 
Perhaps it’s time Michael Jackson is recognized for who he really was and not for the media frenzied and tabloid portrayal that pandered to a sophomoric public drunk and fixated on the cult of celebrity. His genius is there for anyone who wants to take a closer look, who wants the truth and not the tabloid caricature version. If he were recognized for his real accomplishments we would see an unappreciated visionary and genius, a spiritual teacher among us who was hiding in plain sight and masquerading as a Moonwalking Maker of Magic. If you feel impelled at all to take a closer look you may find your mouth agape and your surprise staggering. And you might even come to understand the Force that was Michael Jackson; then the real legend continues. 
 
(c) B. Kaufmann One Wordsmith
 
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Get ready to have your mind blown. Ready? Here we go ...

-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: LUNA on June 29, 2012, 07:11:30 AM
i'm feeling so sad,while reading these lovely words dedicated 2 mj! but,a question:can a brother write such beautiful words,when knows that all the death is a fake? can a friend,a sister,a mother,a son think in a so sad way,when/if they know that friend,that brother,that son is alive? is it possible 2 lie even during an event that is celebrating their brother/friend/son/....'s life? maybe,a comeback/bam would say:"ok... all the words,the sadness,the love u sent 2 me were not true... everything u saw in 2009 (and after) was fake!"

*LUNA*

Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: LUNA on July 12, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
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i was just thinking about the "liberian girl" picture,when i've run in2 this thread.... i've thought:"in the video,there were ppl looking 4 mike (who was behind the camera and not in a far place! he was in the same room where those ppl were!),but nobody was able 2 c him.... but he was under their eyes! is it possible that,now,it's the same? mike is under our eyes (davedave/murray/v/other ppl in disguise),probably,we've seen him,many times,but we r not able 2 c him,because we think he is hidden? is it possible that he is nearer than we think,but we r blind? after all,the best place 2 hide a thing is.... under the ppl's eyes! maybe,mike/the jaxons keep on showing us this picture 4 making us understand that we r looking 4 something that is under our eyes..."

*LUNA*
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: MJonmind on July 12, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
RK, that article, Michael Jackson: Spiritual Messenger Hiding in Plain Sight, was so beautiful!  If only there was more truthful journalism like that.  I too wonder how this person would write if they knew he had faked his death.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: diggyon on July 12, 2012, 02:54:38 PM
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i'm feeling so sad,while reading these lovely words dedicated 2 mj! but,a question:can a brother write such beautiful words,when knows that all the death is a fake? can a friend,a sister,a mother,a son think in a so sad way,when/if they know that friend,that brother,that son is alive? is it possible 2 lie even during an event that is celebrating their brother/friend/son/....'s life? maybe,a comeback/bam would say:"ok... all the words,the sadness,the love u sent 2 me were not true... everything u saw in 2009 (and after) was fake!"

Yeah, but don't forget that the King of Pop has died. Michael will never perform again when he comes back. I believe this is sad enough.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: blankie on July 12, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
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i'm feeling so sad,while reading these lovely words dedicated 2 mj! but,a question:can a brother write such beautiful words,when knows that all the death is a fake? can a friend,a sister,a mother,a son think in a so sad way,when/if they know that friend,that brother,that son is alive? is it possible 2 lie even during an event that is celebrating their brother/friend/son/....'s life? maybe,a comeback/bam would say:"ok... all the words,the sadness,the love u sent 2 me were not true... everything u saw in 2009 (and after) was fake!"

Yeah, but don't forget that the King of Pop has died. Michael will never perform again when he comes back. I believe this is sad enough.




If Michael will return and will do certainly  as a man and not as a performer that we know, I think he will surprise us again in a thousand ways... :moonwalk_:
Is unique , special and has a lot to give and show...a film , books, new songs ....... a continuous moonwalker of emotions, sensations,  because Michael is pure energy , is life, is L.O.V.E.  .....is MICHAEL JACKSON !!!!  :bearhug: :michael-jackson: :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: MJonmind on July 12, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
A thousand times YES!
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 12, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
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A thousand times YES!

INDEED
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: RK on July 12, 2012, 08:38:41 PM
We have seen more positive articles about Michael since he hoaxed his death than in the previous years since the media lynching started. The memorial was a visual that hooked the world in to see for themselves, and what we witnessed was not what the media had tried  to portray to the easily programmable public mindsets. The genius of keeping his children in masks and out of the media and public scrutiny, only to reveal them on stage at the memorial has done more to shatter the twisting of the media crap than anything else IMO. People were in shock at how lovely, respectful and normal his children appeared.  Even my 78 year old mother kept commenting after watching the memorial...What beautiful children.....and she was talking about their whole persona through such an arduous circumstance, and not just physical beauty....Well behaved children do cast favourable light upon their parent/s.   [ me thinks no-one can out-manipulate or out-play the master]
As for MJ never returning to the stage....I don't get too concerned..... I do believe him when he said he never stops creating. There is a hugh vault of material there to last my lifetime at least. All those unreleased songs for a start...and I'm betting on writing and poetry too. Makes me think of the delightful surprise we received when all that MJ art came into the light of day from the hangar it was stored in.
I feel that the memorial was a cut off point where many in the public drew a line in the sand and stated quite plainly to the media.....NO MORE.....we will not tolerate this merciless bashing of a true humanitarian especially now that he is not here to defend himself. There arose many blogs dedicated to vindicating Michael and we are experiencing the effects of these warriors and activists even now 3 years on.
Remembering Michael Jackson: The Global Humanitarian | Hip-Hop Wired (http://hiphopwired.com/2011/06/25/remembering-michael-jackson-the-global-humanitarian/)

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Michael Jackson:  We Are The World
One of the most generous humanitarians to ever have graced this planet with their physical presence returned to the essence 2 years ago, today.
Although much mention is not made of it - while still physically alive, the generous Michael Jackson donated millions of dollars, as well as countless hours, to numerous charities and other organizations which assisted many others in need.
While the main-stream media tends to focus on stories regarding the Pop-icon primarily based upon pure speculation, slanderous lies and/or unsubstantiated allegations; they rarely shed light on his unselfish hospitality and genuine love to help others who are in dire need, regardless of ethnicity.

Michael jackson & AIDS victim Ryan White
According to the 2000 Guinness Book Of World Records, Jackson supported more charities (39) that year, via money donations and sponsorships, than any other entertainer. Jackson's financial contributions have helped in relief efforts in dilapidated regions throughout the world – mainly providing clean drinking water, food and medical supplies.
Jackson applied immense amounts of currency and time towards relief assistance for A.I.D.S. and cancer research, as well as to combat world hunger.  Also, he often visited hospital patients, raising their morale with his presence.

In 1984 Michael provided New York City's Mt. Sinai Medical Center with a 19 bed unit for cancer and leukemia patients. Later that year, he then revisited the Brotman Memorial Hospital, where he was previously treated after being badly burned during the production of a commercial for Pepsi.
Jackson donated the entire $1.5 million from the azsoda's sponsorship to the Michael Jackson Burn Center for Children.

Michael, along with Lionel Richie, co-wrote the biggest selling single of all time, 1985's ‘We Are The World', in an effort to raise money for Afrika and awareness of the imperialistic powers that are raping the Motherland.
The ‘Michael Jackson United Negro College Fund/Endowed Scholarship Fund' was established in 1986. This $1.5 million fund is aimed towards college students majoring in communications or the performing arts, with money given annually.
Proceeds from his 1988 single, ‘The Man In The Mirror', he donated to Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times, a retreat for cancer-stricken children.

The following year, Jackson donated tickets to shows in his ‘Bad Tour' to underprivileged children. The proceeds from a Los Angeles show were donated to Childhelp USA, the biggest charity-organization against child-abuse. Childhelp ,of Southern California then established the - ‘Michael Jackson International Institute for Research On Child Abuse'.
Three years later, he set up a burn-unit for children and established the ‘Heal The World Foundation', whose work has included: airlifting 6 tons of supplies to Sarajevo, instituting drug and alcohol abuse education/prevention and donating millions of dollars to less fortunate children.
Jackson then helped to organize the ‘United We Stand: What More Can I Give' benefit concert in the wake of the tragic events which occurred on September 11 2001. Jackson also donated the proceeds from another song to surviving victims of Hurricane Katrina.

As is usually done by the powers-that-be, Michael Jackson's character was assassinated when allegations of inappropriate behavior with young boys arose, but many people say the main-stream media chose to pursue those stories, rather than the more positive ones, in an attempt to take away from his credibility and his humanitarian efforts.
“How can people call him a child molester? What a great humanitarian. He was a very generous man who truly made a difference. Michael saw the world through the visual eyes of an artist, therefore he wanted to make a change – which he did! Just a shame the media rarely or never highlighted all of this. They chose negative trash over decent news. It's very disheartening to read this and think back at the way he was mistreated during his time here,” determined La Mea Nu

Thanks guys for resurrecting this thread....I haven't been back here for a while.  It's good to come back and look again at things and also see new things.
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: LUNA on July 14, 2012, 05:40:36 AM
i don't know if u r right,dear friends.... r u sure he will never perform again? i've heard "the greatest show on earth",don't u?  :icon_rolleyes: maybe,he will come back 4 showing the world he is still (and 4ever) the best entertainer/artist/singer/humanitarian/(and so on) of the world! let's wait and c what he's planning.... i would be not so sure we will never c the artist again.... moreover,if u think about these last 3 years,we've watched (or joined?) a movie,we've listened 2 new songs,we've joined a website about him.... all these things make me think about an artist.  :icon_rolleyes:

*LUNA*
Title: Re: ReVISION thread for the memorial...lets take another look
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 14, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
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I came across this little book at a jumble sale yesterday and it's cover reminded me of the symbols shown on the big screen at the memorial. It is a Jehovah Witness publication originally published [red cover version] in 1990.
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Publication Date: 1990
Excerpt of review by John W. Scott John W. Scott This 384-page book features a detailed review of the major religions of the world, exploring the various ways of worship, cultural background, lands and peoples. It reviews the seemingly instinctual and universal need to worship, that seems to be present in all cultures, as well as the various forms through history in which that need has manifested itself. Primitive religions such as animism, as well as the history to modern day practice of Hinduism, including Yoga are considered, as well as Hinduism development into Buddhism. Other Oriental religions such as Taoism and Confucianism are also considered. A small section also describes the Sikh religion. The various forms of Judaism are discussed, with a history that goes back some thousands of years to the first Jew, Abraham, as well as the other two major monotheistic religions, Islam and Christianity. The Christian section considers both the background and life and ministry of Jesus Christ, as well as the primitive and developed practice of Christianity, the Dark Ages and the development of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the Reformation, Protestantism, and modern day Christianity. There is a chapter which considers the historical development of Jehovah's Witnesses, and a section on modern day disbelief which touches on both Darwinism, and worship of the state in socialist countries. The book is factual, non-judgmental, accurate, and it is a complete reference that is equal to an advanced college course on world religion. The only thing lacking in Mankind's Search for God is information on some of the smaller Christian religions in modern times, that is Later Day Saints and Seventh Day Adventists, as well as more details on the present state of 21st Century Evangelicals. Other than that, one can consider it to be both a complete and authoritative guide on world religion.

This is a quote from Jermaine's interview with MJJC.
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MJJC: This is kind of random, but did Michael ever express any interest in Islam or becoming a Muslim? There were many rumors swirling around in the months after his death that said he was a Muslim

Jermaine Jackson: Michael did not convert to Islam. He was curious about it and I gave him many books to read about Islam. I write in the book how, during his 2005 trial, he returned to the Kingdom Hall to pray. It's fair to say that he died a Jehovah Witness.

I am in the process of reading it now.  However,  the thought [once again]  crossed my mind that the memorial was like a great big fishing net that was cast out into the community, via the death hoax. An invitation to all who were spiritually inclined, to dig deeper to find what exactly Michael was trying to convey through the memorial and it's messages.  Perhaps this was the only way a superstar like MJ  could fullfill the great commission and  come to our individual homes to share the good news of the kingdom.....via our television sets or computer screen.  TS has said that Michael retained some of the Jehovah Witness beliefs....I'm betting that warning his fans and fellow human beings about what is on the earth's horizon, and how to be prepared for it would be a part of that. 


As a JW myself, I must say this was a very interesting post for me RK and in fact, the line you wrote above about the "fishing net" is personally one of my hoax beliefs regarding the "why"

by the way, this is a brilliant book. the book that changed me and opened my eyes. it is brilliant and really gives a good education about lots of religions, customs beliefs and where they originated from.

RK you will love this book and I hope you didnt pay a lot for it, as we give them out free to the public.

If anyone here would like a hardcopy of the illustrated book, I would be only too happy to mail one to you. Can be to an employment address, post office, non residential, address if preferred. Or simply contact local JWs they will be in public listing and ask them to post a copy to you or you can go to one of the kingdom halls and they will give one to you.

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