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Title: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: applehead250609 on January 14, 2012, 03:06:38 AM
LA County Prosecutors To Receive National Award

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Deborah+Brazil+Jury+Reaches+Verdict+Dr+Conrad+iDB4vzvkSX8l.jpg)  :lol: :lol: :lol:  lolol/

Next Tuesday, my friends and colleagues at the Center for Lawful Access and Abuse Deterrence (CLAAD, @claad_coalition) will recognize Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorneys David Walgren and Deborah Brazil for their excellence in the prosecution of Dr. Conrad Murray.  CLAAD is a national coalition dedicated to preventing prescription drug diversion, misuse, and abuse.

CLAAD will commend the LA County prosecutors for their national leadership in implementing the policy recommendations set forth in the National Prescription Drug Abuse Prevention Strategy (of which I am a primary author).  The National Strategy urges prosecutors to exercise moderation and to analyze facts in prescription drug cases from a medical perspective.  Some 30 non-profit organizations have endorsed this year’s National Strategy.

CLAAD will issue a news release on Tuesday, Jan. 17.  If you are interested in obtaining information about the award before then, please e-mail info[at]claad[dot]org.


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Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 14, 2012, 03:09:22 AM
 crash/
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 14, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
Thanks for sharing this with us. I think this is proof that the court proceedings were real.

By the way - those two did a great job and deserve the award.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Funny considering Propofol is not a prescription drug.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: loyalfan on January 14, 2012, 10:28:32 AM
so does this mean we were wrong ???
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 10:36:48 AM
Propofol is not a prescription drug, loyalfan. Think about it. Why would the Center for Lawful Access and Abuse Deterrence, a national coalition dedicated to preventing prescription drug diversion, misuse, and abuse, be rewarding Prosecutors for convicting a man for administering a non-prescription drug?
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 11:01:51 AM
Oh, it isn't? So it's an over-the-counter drug? Try asking for it at your local drugstore.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Grace on January 14, 2012, 11:02:37 AM
http://claad.org/resources/national-strategy (http://claad.org/resources/national-strategy)

Usual felt is strong as always. Orgs don't go without business. Business doesn't go without orgs.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pharmacofore-inc-announces-sponsorship-of-the-2011-claad-national-prescription-drug-abuse-prevention-policy-consensus-meeting-on-november-29-2011-in-washington-dc-121340423.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pharmacofore-inc-announces-sponsorship-of-the-2011-claad-national-prescription-drug-abuse-prevention-policy-consensus-meeting-on-november-29-2011-in-washington-dc-121340423.html)

Btw, Wally and Ms. Brazil both deserve a smack each. They were fabulous.
Who wanted to marry Wally?

 errrr

 /overreacting/
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 11:03:25 AM
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Oh, it isn't? So it's an over-the-counter drug? Try asking for it at your local drugstore.
It's neither. Do some research.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
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It's neither. Do some research.

Maybe you should do some more research. It's not a controlled substance, and that's probably what you mean. Of course doctors "prescribe" it, only that you usually get it at a hospital for surgery or for sedation in intensive care, etc., so you don't get a prescription and then go to the pharmacy to get it yourself, only doctors and hospitals can order it. That is also why it's not a "controlled substance", because only doctors and hospitals can buy it.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: iamamjbeliever on January 14, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
 :roll:
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 11:18:22 AM
Oh, and before I forget ... Murray also gave Michael other drugs like Lorazepam, Valium, and Midazolam in high doses and the cause of death was "acute propofol intoxication in combination with the contributory effects of benzodiazepines".
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
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It's neither. Do some research.

Maybe you should do some more research. It's not a controlled substance, and that's probably what you mean. Of course doctors "prescribe" it, only that you usually get it at a hospital for surgery or for sedation in intensive care, etc., so you don't get a prescription and then go to the pharmacy to get it yourself, only doctors and hospitals can order it. That is also why it's not a "controlled substance", because only doctors and hospitals can buy it.

Propofol is not prescribed nor is it controlled. It is not a prescription drug and it is not a controlled substance and it is not an over the counter drug either. It is considered "medical supply" like any other anesthetic agent. Do not profess to know what I know.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20397799

"Propofol is a sedative-hypnotic prescription medication that is widely used in anesthesia, long-term sedation, and conscious sedation."
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: loyalfan on January 14, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
i am sorry ,i am still not sure what this news means to the hoax.........
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Andrea on January 14, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
Nice new avatar applehead!! :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bindupbrokenhearted on January 14, 2012, 11:48:52 AM
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It's neither. Do some research.

Maybe you should do some more research. It's not a controlled substance, and that's probably what you mean. Of course doctors "prescribe" it, only that you usually get it at a hospital for surgery or for sedation in intensive care, etc., so you don't get a prescription and then go to the pharmacy to get it yourself, only doctors and hospitals can order it. That is also why it's not a "controlled substance", because only doctors and hospitals can buy it.

Propofol is not prescribed nor is it controlled. It is not a prescription drug and it is not a controlled substance and it is not an over the counter drug either. It is considered "medical supply" like any other anesthetic agent. Do not profess to know what I know.

It seems like the FDA was trying to get it controlled:
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/rules/2010/fr1027.htm

http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/apr11/110401b.asp

As far as I know they haven't gotten it into schedule IV (controlled) but sounds like it is being discussed.

FYI: it is a prescription medicine, as an anesthesiologist working in hospital setting would have to (usually) write a prescription to the pharmacy for it, but this isn't always the case, as propofol is sometimes just 'stashed' by the anesthesiology crew (I know, it sounds strange but it does depend on the clinic, etc for propofol's control or lack thereof).  Also, it is NEVER prescribed outside of hospital settings the same way as other drugs are (such as oxycodon, allergy medicines, cough medicines, etc to be taken at home).  So in a way, it is both prescribed and not prescribed.  Not controlled yet, but sounds like they are thinking about it.

Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 12:02:42 PM
Yes, they are trying to get it controlled, this has been going on for years now and the reason is ... Michael Jackson's death:

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-16/entertainment/17929149_1_sperm-donor-propofol-debbie-rowe

And yes, it is a prescription drug, just not in the sense of the patients physically getting a prescription and then buying it themselves as it is only used in hospitals and administered by doctors (nothing like "take 1 at night").
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: _Anna_ on January 14, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing this with us. I think this is proof that the court proceedings were real.

By the way - those two did a great job and deserve the award.

Blessings.
Considering Murray shouldn't be guilty, what is wonderful what they did? Murray either is guilty, which means he killed Michael, or he is not guilty and then what is great about this?

This means the trial was real. What is good in all this?
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: loyalfan on January 14, 2012, 12:16:02 PM
exactly @ anna...my concern too.is this meaning michael is dead ???
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bindupbrokenhearted on January 14, 2012, 12:23:17 PM
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exactly @ anna...my concern too.is this meaning michael is dead ???

It may be part of/or supporting whatever sting(s) is/are going on, especially against drug regulation and laws and medical industry. 

I am not sure yet; I guess we will have to continue to research this and see how things unfold.  I have no doubt he is alive due to the other clues we have been given.

Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 14, 2012, 01:27:49 PM
This is the first I’ve heard of this award :?  But while we’re speaking of “awards”  Branca is also receiving one, a Grammy.

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=7343 (http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=7343)


Estate executor John Branca to receive 2012 GRAMMY Service Award
It was announced in December by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation’s sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®’s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year’s luncheon.

The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

“For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law,” said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. “This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry.”

“It’s a really exciting time for the music industry,” said Ek. “Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation’s Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February.”

“I’m honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients,” added Branca. “Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry.”

http://www.grammy.org/recording-academy/press-release/dec-19-2011-405-pm (http://www.grammy.org/recording-academy/press-release/dec-19-2011-405-pm)

Posted on 12-19-11
RENOWNED ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY AND FORMER BOARD CHAIR OF MUSICARES JOHN BRANCA TO RECEIVE SERVICE AWARD
SPOTIFY CEO DANIEL EK TO DELIVER KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT GRAMMY FOUNDATION®'S 14TH ANNUAL ENTERTAINMENT LAW INITIATIVE® LUNCHEON & SCHOLARSHIP PRESENTATION

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (Dec. 19, 2011) — It was announced today by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation's sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®'s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year's luncheon.

 
The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
 
"For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law," said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. "This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry."
 
"It’s a really exciting time for the music industry," said Ek. "Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation's Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February."
 
"I'm honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients," added Branca. "Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry."
 
Ek, a serial entrepreneur and technologist who started his first company in 1997 at the age of 14, co-founded Spotify in 2006 with Martin Lorentzon. As CEO of Spotify, Ek's role is to guide the vision and strategy of the company as it grows. Leading the management team from his hometown of Stockholm, Ek is also responsible for nurturing a passionate working environment for everyone at Spotify.
 

Prior to Spotify, Ek founded Advertigo, the online advertising company acquired by TradeDoubler, and previously held senior roles at Nordic auction company Tradera (acquired by eBay). He was also chief technology officer at Stardoll, the fashion and entertainment community for tweens that now boasts more than 100 million users worldwide.
 
Branca specializes in the music and live appearance industries. He is a leading artist representative, having represented an unprecedented 29 members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including Aerosmith, the Beach Boys, Bee Gees, the Doors, Fleetwood Mac, Michael Jackson, the Rolling Stones, and Carlos Santana, among others, and such other artists and celebrities as Enrique Iglesias, Nickelback and Mike Tyson. He has been at the forefront in the acquisition and sale of music publishing catalogs, including the acquisition of the Beatles catalog, ATV Music, for Michael Jackson, as well as its merger with Sony Music to create the world’s third-largest music publisher, Sony ATV Music. Branca has also been the architect of the sales of many major music catalogs, including Berry Gordy’s Jobete Music Co., the Kurt Cobain catalog, the Leiber and Stoller catalog, and the Rodgers & Hammerstein Organization.
 
He serves on the board of trustees for Occidental College, participates as an active fundraiser for the UCLA athletic department and serves as the Co-Chairman of MusiCares' 20th Anniversary Campaign, a campaign in support of the leading industry charity devoted to helping members of the music community. Branca also serves on the Board of Trustees for the GRAMMY Museum and the Pauley Pavilion Renovation Campaign Committee.
 
ELI has three components: the Writing Competition, a GRAMMY Week ELI luncheon featuring a prominent keynote speaker, and a Legal Seminar series. The ELI Writing Competition invites law students to write a 3,000-word paper on a compelling legal topic facing the music industry today. Past award-winning topics have featured issues germane and timely to the music industry including bootlegging, music sampling and litigation against peer-to-peer network users. The deadline to submit an online application is Jan. 2, 2012, at 11 a.m. PT. For complete contest rules, send an e-mail to eli@grammy.com or visit www.grammyfoundation.org.
 
The contest culminates with the winning student authors discussing their essays in a question-and-answer presentation at the prestigious ELI luncheon. Past luncheon keynote speakers have included Edgar Bronfman Jr., chairman and CEO of Warner Music Group; Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.); Clive Davis, chief creative officer of Sony Music Entertainment; Timothy J. Leiweke, president and CEO of AEG; will.i.am, GRAMMY Foundation Board member and frontman/producer of the multi-GRAMMY-winning group the Black Eyed Peas; and Strauss Zelnick, former president and CEO of BMG Entertainment, among others.
 
Once again, this year the Foundation added ELI Writing Competition workshops at prominent law schools around the country with the goal of helping students with their essays. ELI also continued its partnership this year with www.box.com to allow students to upload their submissions directly over the Internet. Box.com's mission is to make it easy for individuals and businesses to access, manage and share all their content online.
 
For information on purchasing tables or tickets to the event, please call Loren Fishbein at
310.392.3777 or e-mail loren.fishbein@grammy.com.
 
The GRAMMY Foundation was established in 1989 to cultivate the understanding, appreciation and advancement of the contribution of recorded music to American culture — from the artistic and technical legends of the past to the still unimagined musical breakthroughs of future generations of music professionals. The Foundation accomplishes this mission through programs and activities that engage the music industry and cultural community as well as the general public. The Foundation works in partnership year-round with its founder, The Recording Academy, to bring national attention to important issues such as the value and impact of music and arts education and the urgency of preserving our rich cultural heritage. For more information, please visit www.grammyfoundation.org.

Box was founded on a simple, powerful idea: people should be able to access and share their content from anywhere. Since 2005, Box has helped more than nearly 6 million individuals, small businesses and Fortune 1000 companies do just that. We want to reinvent what businesses can do with their content through Box's cloud content management platform, made for a new kind of worker, a new kind of workplace and a new kind of IT.
 
 
MEDIA R.S.V.P. MANDATORY:
Christina Cassidy/The GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/christina.cassidy@grammy.com
Hilary Ratner/GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
 

Media Contacts:
Christina Cassidy
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
christina.cassidy@grammy.com
 
Hilary Ratner
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
Jaime Sarachit
The Recording Academy
310.392.3777
jaime.sarachit@grammy.com
 
ELI Program Contact:
Loren Fishbein
The GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
loren.fishbein@grammy.com

Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: AnaMarcia on January 14, 2012, 02:03:14 PM
This is bad for the hoax. Proof that the trial was real.  /scream/
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on January 14, 2012, 02:05:01 PM
read later..so much to say on this topic of Propofol ..
huggs n love n faith to all bearhug
suzz
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 14, 2012, 02:14:24 PM
I believe the trial was real but for not for the murder of Michael Jackson.  Rather the death of Dr. Feelgood.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Tink on January 14, 2012, 02:23:12 PM
Oh ye of little faith. What this means, is that there have been loopholes around Propofol for a very, very long time!
Abuse by anesthesia students has been known for a longtime - they're the first ones who abused it, btw, while working and studying long hours. They'd knock each other out.

This information itself, has been available since...Propofol has been used in the operating theatres. I myself, can't comprehend why anyone would want to use it, because it sure wasn't any fun for me, but then I had it for what it was meant for: surgery. I wasn't messing around with it.

So - believe what you will.

Remember what Elizabeth Taylor said, "He's resting comfortably." He was at Cedar's, not at UCLA.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 14, 2012, 03:42:15 PM
@tink, I mentioned this abuse a while back in another thread about doctors using it to put themselves out for a little while when they were residents pulling long shifts.  It was met w/some skepticism.  But I have no need to lie about it.  I witnessed it firsthand as an employee working at the hospital.  It happens.  typing/ 
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: _Anna_ on January 14, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
Then if it's so easy and no life threatening to inject propofol every time you want to get some sleep, and even if a student of 3rd year can do it all the time, then I don't know what to say anymore. Then what Murray says could also be true if what you say is possible. If it's so easy to do it without the proper equipment. It's still impossible for me to believe one can push anesthetic into their system without being monitored.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
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Then if it's so easy and no life threatening to inject propofol every time you want to get some sleep, and even if a student of 3rd year can do it all the time, then I don't know what to say anymore

It's not "so easy and not life threatening", it has been reported a lot since June 25, 2009 that medical personnel, including doctors and nurses, abuse it and that there have been quite a lot of deaths from Propofol abuse. But that up until what happened to Michael Jackson it was only abused by medical personnel as they are the only ones who can get their hands on it. Never did a doctor order it for a patient and abused it on the patient.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 04:02:04 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124951605785809351.html

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The number of people with a propofol problem is small, and there is little data tracking addictions or death. A 2007 study covering 23,385 anesthesia personnel published in the journal Anesthesia & Analgesia by Paul Wischmeyer, a University of Colorado anesthesiologist, found 25 cases of propofol abuse over the preceding decade. The rate was a fivefold increase from a decade earlier. The study cited seven deaths. Dr. Wischmeyer and others in the field say that they know of other cases and estimate that the total number of deaths is at least several dozen in recent years.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 14, 2012, 04:34:42 PM
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exactly @ anna...my concern too.is this meaning michael is dead ???

Oh, gosh, I didn't mean to create an uproar. I'm so sorry.

I don't believe that Michael is dead. I do believe this could be a sting but it's a guess. At any rate, why should everything go as we think it should?

Yes, I do believe that propofol has been abused by some but mostly by those in the medical field who has access to it. The report that Sarah31 posted is new to me, the last I read was that there was only a couple of reported deaths, both medical personnel, never lay people. But that was what I read and it appears that more information has come forward since then.

I do believe that these prosecutors should be recognized. I believe they are truly attorneys and they did a great job. They were careful to humanize Michael and made sure not to bring any of the negative history into the courtroom. They made sure that they did their homework and they worked hard on behalf of the Jackson family (and Michael).

I don't think that anyone should be discouraged by this one way or another. Whether Michael is alive or d**d these attorneys did a good job.

We are searching for truth of what happened to Michael. In the end we will find the truth - whatever that may be. Remember, the truth will prevail in the end. I believe that to be true.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
voice, the article I posted above (which also mentions the "controlled substance" issue) is from August 2009. So this information has been around forever, but judging from this thread, including the fact that Propofol is a prescripton drug, no one really ever looked into the basics of Propofol on here in 2,5 years or didn't post about it, maybe because it didn't really fit with the hoax or couldn't easily be explained in the context of a hoax? So that's why people should just do their own research and ask Google from time to time, you won't find everything on this forum.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: applehead250609 on January 14, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
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voiceforthesilent
January 14, 2012, 11:50:53 PM »
Thanks for sharing this with us. I think this is proof that the court proceedings were real.

By the way - those two did a great job and deserve the award.

Blessings.

You're welcome Voice  bearhug !!!!! This 2 had done a "great job" indeed  ;)  :lol: ,I'm their NUMBER ONE FAN  lolol/  !!!!
I also like this artice because it contains very important DEtAiLs for the HOAX  ;) . Great minds ThINK alike  :) !!!!
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: applehead250609 on January 14, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
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Andrea
Today at 01:43:56 AM »
Nice new avatar applehead!! :lol: :lol:

Thank's Andrea  :lol:  :lol: :lol:  !!!! I had this avatar even since 2 days ago,but I guess no one noticed ,lol  lolol/ !!!!!
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: applehead250609 on January 14, 2012, 05:40:52 PM
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iamamjbeliever
Today at 01:09:51 AM »

 :roll:

Yes ,yes your comment was "precious" ,thank you  :lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol: !!!!!
Now here is mine  geek/  :lol:  :lol: :lol:  !!!!


Robin Williams discussing Michael Jackson on Propofol (The Graham Norton Show)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIBBE3ObRY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: applehead250609 on January 14, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
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This is the first I’ve heard of this award :?  But while we’re speaking of “awards”  Branca is also receiving one, a Grammy.

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=7343 (http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=7343)


Estate executor John Branca to receive 2012 GRAMMY Service Award
It was announced in December by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation’s sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®’s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year’s luncheon.

The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

“For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law,” said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. “This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry.”

“It’s a really exciting time for the music industry,” said Ek. “Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation’s Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February.”

“I’m honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients,” added Branca. “Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry.”

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Posted on 12-19-11
RENOWNED ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY AND FORMER BOARD CHAIR OF MUSICARES JOHN BRANCA TO RECEIVE SERVICE AWARD
SPOTIFY CEO DANIEL EK TO DELIVER KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT GRAMMY FOUNDATION®'S 14TH ANNUAL ENTERTAINMENT LAW INITIATIVE® LUNCHEON & SCHOLARSHIP PRESENTATION

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (Dec. 19, 2011) — It was announced today by the GRAMMY Foundation that John Branca, a partner in the law firm of Ziffren Brittenham LLP and former Board Chair of the GRAMMY Foundation's sister charitable foundation, MusiCares®, will be the recipient of the 2012 Service Award at the GRAMMY Foundation®'s 14th Annual Entertainment Law Initiative® Luncheon & Scholarship Presentation on Friday, Feb. 10, 2012, at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Beverly Hills, Calif. Daniel Ek, co-founder and CEO of Spotify, will deliver the keynote address at this year's luncheon.

 
The Service Award was established in 2006 to recognize contributions by prominent entertainment attorneys that include outstanding service to individuals (pro bono or otherwise); leadership and participation with organizations that help advance the music community; and work to affect positive change that benefits the community overall. Past honorees include David Braun, Jay L. Cooper, John T. Frankenheimer, Joel A. Katz, Paul G. Marshall, and Al Schlesinger. The ELI luncheon is one of the most prestigious events held during GRAMMY® Week, a celebration that will culminate with the 54th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on Sunday, Feb. 12, 2012. The telecast will be broadcast live on the CBS Television Network at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
 
"For close to 15 years, our GRAMMY Foundation Entertainment Law Initiative has created a forum where law students and seasoned attorneys can come together for research, dialogue and debate in the field of entertainment law," said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy®, the GRAMMY Foundation and MusiCares. "This year, we are pleased to have a digital visionary such as Daniel Ek join us for what will undoubtedly be an insightful and thought-provoking keynote address. It is also our pleasure to honor our good friend, former MusiCares Board Chair and steward of our current MusiCares 20th Anniversary Campaign, John Branca, with our Service Award. Both of these individuals are at the forefront of our industry."
 
"It’s a really exciting time for the music industry," said Ek. "Today we have the ability to listen to all the world’s music, instantly and wherever we are on the planet. That’s a pretty amazing idea and one which inspired me to launch Spotify. I’m a big supporter of the GRAMMY Foundation's Entertainment Law Initiative and look forward to catching up with everyone in February."
 
"I'm honored by the recognition and pleased to join such a distinguished group of past Service Award recipients," added Branca. "Daniel is one of our industry’s real visionaries, and I looking forward his talk, as well as hearing about the topics presented in the winning student papers — they often prove to be cutting-edge topics in our industry."
 
Ek, a serial entrepreneur and technologist who started his first company in 1997 at the age of 14, co-founded Spotify in 2006 with Martin Lorentzon. As CEO of Spotify, Ek's role is to guide the vision and strategy of the company as it grows. Leading the management team from his hometown of Stockholm, Ek is also responsible for nurturing a passionate working environment for everyone at Spotify.
 

Prior to Spotify, Ek founded Advertigo, the online advertising company acquired by TradeDoubler, and previously held senior roles at Nordic auction company Tradera (acquired by eBay). He was also chief technology officer at Stardoll, the fashion and entertainment community for tweens that now boasts more than 100 million users worldwide.
 
Branca specializes in the music and live appearance industries. He is a leading artist representative, having represented an unprecedented 29 members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including Aerosmith, the Beach Boys, Bee Gees, the Doors, Fleetwood Mac, Michael Jackson, the Rolling Stones, and Carlos Santana, among others, and such other artists and celebrities as Enrique Iglesias, Nickelback and Mike Tyson. He has been at the forefront in the acquisition and sale of music publishing catalogs, including the acquisition of the Beatles catalog, ATV Music, for Michael Jackson, as well as its merger with Sony Music to create the world’s third-largest music publisher, Sony ATV Music. Branca has also been the architect of the sales of many major music catalogs, including Berry Gordy’s Jobete Music Co., the Kurt Cobain catalog, the Leiber and Stoller catalog, and the Rodgers & Hammerstein Organization.
 
He serves on the board of trustees for Occidental College, participates as an active fundraiser for the UCLA athletic department and serves as the Co-Chairman of MusiCares' 20th Anniversary Campaign, a campaign in support of the leading industry charity devoted to helping members of the music community. Branca also serves on the Board of Trustees for the GRAMMY Museum and the Pauley Pavilion Renovation Campaign Committee.
 
ELI has three components: the Writing Competition, a GRAMMY Week ELI luncheon featuring a prominent keynote speaker, and a Legal Seminar series. The ELI Writing Competition invites law students to write a 3,000-word paper on a compelling legal topic facing the music industry today. Past award-winning topics have featured issues germane and timely to the music industry including bootlegging, music sampling and litigation against peer-to-peer network users. The deadline to submit an online application is Jan. 2, 2012, at 11 a.m. PT. For complete contest rules, send an e-mail to eli@grammy.com or visit www.grammyfoundation.org.
 
The contest culminates with the winning student authors discussing their essays in a question-and-answer presentation at the prestigious ELI luncheon. Past luncheon keynote speakers have included Edgar Bronfman Jr., chairman and CEO of Warner Music Group; Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.); Clive Davis, chief creative officer of Sony Music Entertainment; Timothy J. Leiweke, president and CEO of AEG; will.i.am, GRAMMY Foundation Board member and frontman/producer of the multi-GRAMMY-winning group the Black Eyed Peas; and Strauss Zelnick, former president and CEO of BMG Entertainment, among others.
 
Once again, this year the Foundation added ELI Writing Competition workshops at prominent law schools around the country with the goal of helping students with their essays. ELI also continued its partnership this year with www.box.com to allow students to upload their submissions directly over the Internet. Box.com's mission is to make it easy for individuals and businesses to access, manage and share all their content online.
 
For information on purchasing tables or tickets to the event, please call Loren Fishbein at
310.392.3777 or e-mail loren.fishbein@grammy.com.
 
The GRAMMY Foundation was established in 1989 to cultivate the understanding, appreciation and advancement of the contribution of recorded music to American culture — from the artistic and technical legends of the past to the still unimagined musical breakthroughs of future generations of music professionals. The Foundation accomplishes this mission through programs and activities that engage the music industry and cultural community as well as the general public. The Foundation works in partnership year-round with its founder, The Recording Academy, to bring national attention to important issues such as the value and impact of music and arts education and the urgency of preserving our rich cultural heritage. For more information, please visit www.grammyfoundation.org.

Box was founded on a simple, powerful idea: people should be able to access and share their content from anywhere. Since 2005, Box has helped more than nearly 6 million individuals, small businesses and Fortune 1000 companies do just that. We want to reinvent what businesses can do with their content through Box's cloud content management platform, made for a new kind of worker, a new kind of workplace and a new kind of IT.
 
 
MEDIA R.S.V.P. MANDATORY:
Christina Cassidy/The GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/christina.cassidy@grammy.com
Hilary Ratner/GRAMMY Foundation/310.392.3777/hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
 

Media Contacts:
Christina Cassidy
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
christina.cassidy@grammy.com
 
Hilary Ratner
GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
hilary.ratner@grammy.com
 
Jaime Sarachit
The Recording Academy
310.392.3777
jaime.sarachit@grammy.com
 
ELI Program Contact:
Loren Fishbein
The GRAMMY Foundation
310.392.3777
loren.fishbein@grammy.com

Thank you for this news Hesouttamylife,I saw it already and it seems that it's THE AWARDS "season time"  lolol/  !!!! Oscar's are near  8-) so who knows what surprises are waiting for us  penguin/  !!!!
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
Propofol is an anesthetic which is classified as medical supply equipment, you'd be hard pressed to find it classified even as a drug much less a prescription drug.

It is possible they are changing the wording since all this deal with Murray and MJ manslaughter trial but before all this came about Propofol was considered medical supply and nothing more. Loopholes, as tink said.

This is why it was used, seems to me.

Well, one of the reasons anyway.

But big bonus reason #1, it was perfectly LEGAL for Murray to have possession of Propofol in that house; purchase as much of it as he wanted, keep it at the office, at home, in the car, wherever, give it to his baby mamma, let MJ handle it, etc... because it is not a prescription drug, nor is it a controlled substance.

Propofol was the perfect substance for a WEIRD "death" in this law abiding hoax.

Now maybe there's some folks interested in trying the CYA approach to closing some of those loopholes at this late date since all this attention was cast its way by casually attaching some clever verbage, but Propofol is not covered under the classification "prescription drug". At least as late as August 2009, Propofol was listed as an anesthetic which was classified simply as medical supply.

They don't even take inventory of the stuff in hospitals, you realize. Prescription drugs are inventoried. You have to sign them out. That is not the case with Propofol, because it's always been considered just medical supply.

As far as the hoax, this doesn't concern me. Anyone can say anything they want and even print it in the news, we already know the truth.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 08:55:00 PM
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Propofol is an anesthetic which is classified as medical supply equipment, you'd be hard pressed to find it classified even as a drug much less a prescription drug.

You are wrong. You do realize that the link I posted that states that it is a prescription drug is a gov website and not some BS website?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20397799

And even if you don't want to believe that Propofol is a prescription drug, I already told you he also gave him several benzos in high doses and Lorazepem is named as contributing to the cause of death. So there were other prescription drugs involved.

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But big bonus reason #1, it was perfectly LEGAL for Murray to have possession of Propofol in that house; purchase as much of it as he wanted, keep it at the office, at home, in the car, wherever, give it to his baby mamma, let MJ handle it, etc... because it is not a prescription drug, nor is it a controlled substance.

Wrong, he couldn't just do all those things with it, he in fact lied to the pharmacist about having a practice/clinic in California when in reality it was the apartment of his girlfriend. There would have been no need to lie if he just could have done with it whatever he wanted. As a doctor, it was legal to have it in his possession, but it wasn't legal to give it in a bedroom with no monitoring.

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They don't even take inventory of the stuff in hospitals, you realize. Prescription drugs are inventoried. You have to sign them out. That is not the case with Propofol, because it's always been considered just medical supply.

Post your source for that.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 09:00:27 PM
Oh and the government NEVER EVER fabricates a THING.

It was 100% legal. Review the list of charges?

I cannot post interviews done with doctors. There is knowledge off the internet. You can ask any doctor you like to verify that if you would like to look into it further.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
Oh, I see, you don't have a source. But you do remember that it was a big issue at the trial that certain drugs, like Propofol, are locked away in password protected cabinets at hospitals?

And what exactly did the government "fabricate"? That website just states it's a prescription drug, why would it be important in any way to lie about that?

I don't need to review any charges, it's perfectly legal for doctors to have all kinds of meds in their possession, it's not legal for them to do anything illegal with them though.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bindupbrokenhearted on January 14, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
I have used propofol for my job.  I don't know what it is like in the human medical field, but in the veterinary field, propofol has this on the vial:

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Federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the order of a licensed veterinarian.
which means it is a prescription drug for veterinarians by our definition of prescription drug.  It also has a DEA number, meaning only persons with a valid DEA license can have and distribute, meaning it is classified as a prescription drug (at least for the vet field) and not over the counter drug.  If it is classified as 'medical supply' in the human medical field, that is new to me, but in the vet field, it is a prescription drug, and was so before 2009.

I am not as familiar with it in human medical field, as my field is veterinary.  I have never heard it classified as medical supply.

Also, I agree there is lack of regulation of it (and loopholes).

But I am certainly interested in sources calling it medical supply :)
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 09:25:13 PM
I wouldn't expect anyone to believe a word I say just because I said it. If I spark up your interest, go check it out, interview a doctor/nurse/resident, I'm telling you what I learned, take it or leave it.

Ps. password schmassword. Think about it.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
You made the claim, you have to back it up, just like I did with the things I said. And if you heard this on TV (how do you know that this doctor isn't controlled by the illuminati? Because he said what you wanted to hear?), it's also on the internet, so you could find a link if you'd try, everything is on the internet.

P.S. And I guess it means you heard this on TV, but you never bothered to cross check it with other sources, like looking it up on the internet.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
Both doctors I interviewed are friends of mine and know I am a hoaxer. Why would they lie to me? They have no agenda, they have no prevailing opinion in regards to the hoax, but see you wouldn't know that because they aren't your friends. So if you're still curious about it Sarah31, and chose to disregard me as a wingbat, that is fine, but then I suggest you go find your own doctor to interview because the above is all I can offer you as far as PROOF.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: bec on January 14, 2012, 09:43:30 PM
Ps. I should say "all I am prepared to offer you" because I probably could go scrape together a bunch of links and articles and sources if I was really that motivated, but it's not that important to me anymore to convince perma-skeptical people of things I already know to be true.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 14, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
You made the claim and you have to back it up. I won't be doing your work for you, you are the one who claimed she did a lot of research, but can't back up her claims. And "I talked to doctors in real life" coming from an anonymous person on the net doesn't qualify as proof for anything. You want to prove your point, but you can't, but other people proved theirs in this thread. So people can choose who they want to believe.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Heartsong on January 15, 2012, 12:25:27 AM
I'm not sure if this helps but I have spent time in theatre and have witnessed propofol being administered on numerous occasions by anaesthetists.

To me it appeared to be a medical supply, drawn up and used as needed. I never witnessed any "sign out" or drug counting procedures in regards to it's use (as you do with S8's) and it was not kept in a secure drug cupboard, although the amounts used were written in the patient notes. It was part of the anaesthetist supply trolley. It appeared to be treated the same way IV bags are treated in theatre (also written in patient notes)- use as required by the MO.

It must be noted here however, in regards to IV bags, that once the patient is on ward, there must be a medical officers ORDER before nurses can hang the fluids. But this is not really the criteria for prescription either as this in no way implies that the patient is able to administer fluids to themselves. It must be done by a registered nurse.

So I'm not sure how propofol could be described as a "drug for prescription only" (an S4) as I'm pretty sure it would never be prescribed to a patient to take and use as directed.

It would only be a prescribed drug in the sense that bindup said, in that it should only be administered by a medical officer.

Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: curls on January 15, 2012, 02:02:31 AM
Well, I was feeling pretty mag-funked till I waded through this thread.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Tink on January 15, 2012, 02:10:25 AM
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@tink, I mentioned this abuse a while back in another thread about doctors using it to put themselves out for a little while when they were residents pulling long shifts.  It was met w/some skepticism.  But I have no need to lie about it.  I witnessed it firsthand as an employee working at the hospital.  It happens.  typing/

@hesouttamylife - I think people need to realize, you were at a hospital! People felt safe there, and counted on their friends to rescue them - which didn't always happen, I would guess. Reports are that some died.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 15, 2012, 08:42:16 AM
@tink, yes…other doctors!  they didn’t do it in the open.  They had a wing where they could sleep between shifts.  You’d be surprised the meds they took before going into the operating room.  I use to tease them and say, I know to never have surgery done here. It was a running joke between the doctors and non-medical staff. But they would be alert and do just as well as any other surgeon on the team. 

When I worked there we had an employee only clinic.  We could secure any meds we requested by going in with a headache, a backache, didn’t matter.  Ask for what you wanted by name and voila, it was done.  Seemed everybody was taking speed and valium in those days at the hospital.  :? No questions asked.  I know that probably would never fly today, but in the 70s and 80s it was a given.
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: Sarah31 on January 15, 2012, 11:19:16 AM
http://healthworldnet.com/articles/the-insider/propofol,-the-new-illicit-prescription-drug.html

http://www.prescriptiondrugs.com/drugs/propofol

http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/propofol-propoflo-rapinovet/page1.aspx

http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/types-of-addiction/prescription-drug-addiction/sedative-drug-propofol-abused-by-people-in-the-medical-profession/

http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/misc/propofol-addiction.html
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 15, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Thank you for the links Sarah.  Like I said, I witnessed it firsthand.  I KNOW it happens though there are no personal snapshots or articles.  These links however is validation enough.  Appreciate it.  /bravo/
Title: Re: Walgren and Brazil to receive award
Post by: MissG on January 15, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
Interesting thread.

Imo, the key point is that propofol should not be administered outside a hospital/ controlled environment by a non anesthesiologist ans should be used for certain procedures only.
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