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General Michael Jackson Forum => Random MJ Talk => Topic started by: LoveShyMichael on January 01, 2012, 01:14:52 AM
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Ron Paul has been exposing truth during his road for presidency. Take a look at his apparel for shirts & sweatshirts. Ron Paul having "love" on his "revolution" is odd for presidency apparel. I know Ron Paul is our hope for change. And Michael's message.............this is all for LOVE.
www.ronpaul.com/ron-paul-store/ron-paul-t-shirts/
i tried to post the pics of his shirts showing the REVOLUTION...WITH THE LOVE BEING IN REVOLUTION..SPELT BACKWARDS.. if someone can post a pic of shirts that would be great. I'm still new at the pictures.
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The picture worked...........
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Here's some more....
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Cool shirt, and use of the word, "R LOVE ution"!
I haven't followed Ron Paul much, but here's an interesting video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwNbwmOfQE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwNbwmOfQE)
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I haven't paid much attention to the US election runs, frankly because I don't trust politicians, but Ron Paul may be the one good egg in the basket! I like "TheAlexJonesChannel" on YT too!
[embed=425,349]http://youtu.be/g_ij6QwrA_8[/embed]
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I'm biggest skeptic and pessimist when it comes to politicians and elections.
They "sold" you Obama as "savior" after Bush bad times, now they are selling
you Paul as convenient "saviour" replacement after Obama bad times {while in reality
"bad times" are caused by same people who rule the world, presidents being nothing
but talking heads/puppets} , especially in the country with 2 party system! You WILL
vote for some republican now.
You'll have to vote for Paul as the rest didn't have such perfect campaign as Occupy Wall Street/Anonymous related one Paul got. I wish I was wrong and it's not another puppet
of same people and same old scheme taking place, but if he's not, he will end up like Kennedy
did, he's an old man after all, arranged "natural causes" come to mind.
That reversed "love" thing was used in videos of that masked guy on youtube back then,
forgot what account name. So he was a part of Paul campaign as well, cleverly playing
with MJ fans as future voters? Oh well.
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@Aidan...
I was never sold on Obama. He's just a puppet like the rest of them. Ron Paul is not a puppet. He speaks truth. Which most don't either want to believe or ignore. I've watched a few clips of mainstream media of the way they attack & distort Ron Paul. But if you want the truth of economic collaspe of USA... always look to alternative media.....like......www.alexjones.com...........www.infowars.com...........www.prisonplanet.com........www.naturalnews.com.....
I just thought Ron Paul using the Revolution "love" ...........was very different approach for presidency. But without a doubt Ron Paul is for real. He's not been bought & paid for by Wall Street thugs. The way Michael & Ron Paul approach "love" is just what this country needs.
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As long as both Republican & Democrats are bought & paid for by Wallstreet, it doesn't matter what you vote. Its just like pro wrestling, they act like they are fighting against each other, But they are not. Both parties, Democrats & Republicans all for Wall Street. Federal Reserve the private banking system that has engeneered the collaspe of this country by design. Obama was just the perfect slick guy to sell the NWO & keep America living in fear. Just remember everytime the government is telling you that they are doing something to "make you safer against terrorists". trust me one more of our freedoms will be taken away, They won't be happy until they destroy America. Abolish the constitution & Bill of rights. Yes, we all know the polls are rigged & corrupt but we still have to put our voices out there & stand up against these corrupt scum bags. I have a grand son who is "brain damaged" ( fancy for autismn) by vaccines. I have to put word out there that vaccines are one way that these scum bags in FDA, CDC, doctors, big pharma, are able to dumb people down. Don't let our next generation "children" be victims. Just like what Michael was fighting for, I fight for my next generation, my grandkids, that I spread the word of dangers of vaccines. This is what the NWO is all about......de-population of the world, & keep you sick, so you go get vaccines are loaded from of toxins, & big pharma can keep you addicted to their painkillers.....this is part of thier agenda. Any parent or grand parent reading this,.....DO YOUR RESEARCH ON VACCINES!!! THEY ARE USELESS!! THEY ARE FULL OF TOXINS!! I have a grandson "brain damaged" by vaccines. He's 5 now, but everyday I see how happy of a kid he is. He didn't ask for this. Doesn't even realize that him not talking like the rest of us is caused by MURDERERS!!! INTENTIONAL POISONING.....IT SICKENS ME!!!
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I'm biggest skeptic and pessimist when it comes to politicians and elections.
They "sold" you Obama as "savior" after Bush bad times, now they are selling
you Paul as convenient "saviour" replacement after Obama bad times {while in reality
"bad times" are caused by same people who rule the world, presidents being nothing
but talking heads/puppets} , especially in the country with 2 party system! You WILL
vote for some republican now.
You'll have to vote for Paul as the rest didn't have such perfect campaign as Occupy Wall Street/Anonymous related one Paul got. I wish I was wrong and it's not another puppet
of same people and same old scheme taking place, but if he's not, he will end up like Kennedy
did, he's an old man after all, arranged "natural causes" come to mind.
That reversed "love" thing was used in videos of that masked guy on youtube back then,
forgot what account name. So he was a part of Paul campaign as well, cleverly playing
with MJ fans as future voters? Oh well.
I agree with this post 100%.You cant trust any politicians these days.They say one thing and do the opposite.All of our presidents are mere puppets for the elite.He could be the antichrist for all we know.Trust no one but your heart and God,that is my approach.
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Who's saying to trust politicans? WE all know they are not the ones running this country. The FEderal REserve, the private banking company. Guaranteed......the Elite are running scared. They know they've been exposed. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win because of the corrupt system. Between Alex Jones, & Ron Paul & other truthers out there, we have to continue to voice the truth, & stand up for our freedoms. Millions of people have been waking up everyday due to the truth being exposed. Even if you can do something in your area,, or city, stand up for "fluoride"..... the toxic waste being dumped into water supply. 7x more likely for cancer. Go to your local government officials. I'm currently taking the "flouride" issue to our city in Wisconsin. Please we're not just here because of Michael exposing corruptness. We all have to have a voice. USE IT!!!
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Who's saying to trust politicans? WE all know they are not the ones running this country. The FEderal REserve, the private banking company. Guaranteed......the Elite are running scared. They know they've been exposed. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win because of the corrupt system. Between Alex Jones, & Ron Paul & other truthers out there, we have to continue to voice the truth, & stand up for our freedoms. Millions of people have been waking up everyday due to the truth being exposed. Even if you can do something in your area,, or city, stand up for "fluoride"..... the toxic waste being dumped into water supply. 7x more likely for cancer. Go to your local government officials. I'm currently taking the "flouride" issue to our city in Wisconsin. Please we're not just here because of Michael exposing corruptness. We all have to have a voice. USE IT!!!
Might I suggest you get a Brita pitcher? I use that to filter our water, and for our cats (they are quite sensitive). We have well water where I live, but unfortunately toxins have reached that level. I'm still not 100% sure about Flouride, as I know some helps with teeth from toothpaste.
bearhug
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@Tink........
I use filter for everything that uses water. As for flouride, it's toxic waste from the mine shafts. They have no where else to dump it, so they called it "flouride" & said it was good for your teeth. It's never been proven to have any benefit for your teeth what so ever. When it's transported, it's considerd a level-----highly toxic, it will eat a hole in cement. The men transporting it have to wear hazmat suits..........but hey go ahead dump it in the water supply.......let's call it "flouride".
Tink go to www.naturalnews.com
you will find all your truthful answers on HPV, vaccines, health, cancer. Research any health topic, Mike Adams (The Health Ranger) look his videos up on You Tube. You'll be amazed how much you've been lied to. The American people have to look for the truth.........you will not find any truth on any government site.
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Water filters, such as Brita, do not filter out fluoride. Only a reverse osmosis system will do that.
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A filter won't filter it all. But it's better than not having no filter. You know it sucks that we have to jump thru hoops just to be healthy. This should come naturally, but because scum bags want to de-populate they dump it in our food & water supply. Sick deviants running this whole agenda. I don't want to make this a religious forum but sometimes I just ask myself........God why are you letting these scum bag deviant elites kill innocent people while the criminal murderers are allowed to kill.......The AMA..... ( American Murder Association).
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I've looked into Ron Paul for some time. He is the ONLY honest politician out there fighting for the people. Can't buy that 76 year old hero off. The last non-puppet president was JFK. If your still not aware of Ron Paul at this point, get aware now. The Elite are very afraid of what he's doing. Despite treating him like a nutjob in the media and shutting him down whenever they can, limiting his airtime, he is STILL able to reach out to many during this process and get his ideas out to everyone and hopefully, sooner than later people will pick up on his realities. Ron Paul would have been our savior had he be elected as president. Unfortunately, we saw last week in the Iowa Caucauses that the election polls were altered, tweaked, cheated. Paul is a rockstar in Iowa, his strongest state and they made sure he didn't win it. The elite are just not gonna let it happen but people need to awaken much quicker.
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad at least 1 person sees that RON PAUL the only one at this point to make a difference, if he can make it too the president. Yes, the Iowa polls we're totally rigged, corrupt as HELL. As soon as I listened to that episode on Alex Jones about the rigging of the polls, I was absolutely furious. If if Ron Paul doesn't make it to president because the elite as scared as HELL. If he doesn't win, because of absolute fraud, he'll be too old to run after that. But his son who is a Senator I feel will step up. The media lately has been trying to attack Jesse VEntura also. There has been talk on Alex Jones of either Jesse Ventura running with Ron Paul as Vice-President, if Ron Paul makes it that far, without the help of corrupt officials trying to destroy him at every whim. I also feel either if Ron Paul doesn't make president, I feel Jesse Ventura will do it, because of the latest slur on Jesse Ventura, if the "media whores" thought that would surpess Ventura they we're sadly mistaken, this will make him fight even more to take back our country. Thanks for seeing the light. Now lets wake up others that Ron Paul is the savior for this country. With JFK, yes we all know our government killed him, but back then no one questioned their government. Today, thanks to Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, & others believiing in our freedom we will not be blinded.....at least I wont.
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Will Diebold Voting Machines Cheat Ron Paul Out Of 2nd Place In New Hampshire?
2008 scandal saw votes for Paul go uncounted
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Monday, January 9, 2012
Given allegations of vote fraud in Iowa last week, in addition to the documented case of uncounted votes for Ron Paul during the 2008 New Hampshire primary, concerns are again running high amongst Ron Paul supporters that their candidate could be cheated out of a strong finish in Tuesday’s caucuses with the aid of notoriously suspect Diebold voting machines.
Although Mitt Romney is expected to comfortably win the primary tomorrow, current polls show Ron Paul maintaining a strong second place.
However, such polls counted for little in 2008, when despite Barack Obama’s huge 13 point lead over Hillary Clinton going into the Democratic primary, Clinton ended up winning by 3 per cent.
Ron Paul also found himself on the wrong end of suspected vote fraud when election officials in districts such as Sutton reported that Paul had received zero votes, despite numerous individuals immediately going public and asserting they had voted for Paul. Officials later had to admit that 31 votes for Paul in Sutton alone had not been counted due to “human error”.
In districts that used notoriously unreliable Diebold voting machines, Paul also received significantly less votes than establishment candidate Rudy Giuliani, despite beating him on votes case by paper ballot. Huge disparities between votes cast on Diebold electronic voting machines and actual hand counted tallies for the Democratic primary also emerged during the New Hampshire recount.
Mitt Romney profited the most from the Diebold swing in 2008, he received 7% more votes compared to hand counted ballots.
Paul supporters speculate that just as Rick Santorum enjoyed an astounding last minute surge in Iowa to take second place and enable the media to keep Ron Paul out of the headlines, John Huntsman will be used for the same purpose in New Hampshire.
“New Hampshire still uses the same institutionally vulnerable Diebold electronic voting machines as in 2008,” writes Dave Trotter . “So the odds of GOP establishment chicanery are even higher than in Iowa. After all, the establishment that Ron Paul threatens remains firmly in control of the levers and dials of the pollsters and the voting machines.”
“If Huntsman indeed serves the role of Romney-enabler in New Hampshire, as the new-new Flavor of the Month for the soon-to-be deposed Santorum, expect for him to yield to yet another establishment candidate by South Carolina. Perhaps Perry makes a momentary resurgence?”
Concerns about vote fraud being used to disenfranchise Ron Paul flared in Iowa last week after Republican strategist Dee Dee Benkie said GOP insiders had told her they would prevent Ron Paul winning the primary, namely by making sweetheart deals with voting blocs that would favor other candidates.
After the final vote tally was conducted at a secret undisclosed location, allegations of fraud emerged courtesy of a Ron Paul supporter in Appanoose County, who told an Iowa TV station that he believed there was a 20-vote discrepancy in the numbers he recorded from his caucus and the numbers that the Iowa Republican Party reported.
“When Mitt Romney won Iowa by eight votes and I’ve got a 20-vote discrepancy here, that right there says Rick Santorum won Iowa,” Edward True told KCCI TV. “Not Mitt Romney.”
Iowa election officials dismissed the allegations as “rumor” and “innuendo,” while the Santorum camp failed to make any challenge.
Concerns that the establishment is out to sabotage Ron Paul have been provoked by the media’s refusal to even acknowledge the existence of the Paul campaign. The latest example comes courtesy of CBS News, who excluded Paul from the results of a New Hampshire poll, both in graphics displayed on screen as well as on-air discussion, despite the fact that Paul finished second to Mitt Romney.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show and Infiowars Nightly News.
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CBS Reporter Blatantly Excludes Ron Paul From Coverage
Despite the fact Paul is surging and Romney sliding, gap now only 15 points
Steve Watson
Infowars.com
January 9, 2012
Despite the fact that Ron Paul is polling in second place in New Hampshire, and rapidly closing the gap on Mitt Romney, according to the latest polls, one CBS reporter did her best to convince viewers that Paul does not even exist.
It’s a familiar picture for Paul supporters who have had to watch over and over as mainstream media talking heads and pundits have consistently either laughed off the Texas Congressman’s chances for GOP nominee or simply excluded Paul from their coverage altogether.
However, within the past few weeks, the networks were forced to begin taking Paul seriously as he began consistently polling in first and second ahead of the Iowa caucuses, eventually finishing third in what was essentially a three way tie.
Going into New Hampshire and ahead of two debates this weekend, Paul was polling in strong second, as he has been for some time. However, That did not stop CBS political correspondent Jan Crawford from showing graphics and talking about recent polling, without even mentioning Paul’s numbers or even that he was involved in the race at all.
Crawford even used a graphic referencing a Suffolk University Poll of New Hampshire voters, omitting Paul’s numbers, even though he came second, and was the only candidate other than Mitt Romney to poll in double figures.
Watch the video:
The video went viral over the weekend, with Paul supporters bombarding CBS with complaints.
“Your lack of integrity as a journalist is no longer in question, it is fact.” wrote on critic on Crawford’s Facebook page.
“Blatant manipulation of data to fabricate a news story instead of doing your job to report it disgusts me. Thank you, Jan Crawford, You make me feel like a better person,” the commenter added.
“Where is your on air apology? Are you going to own up to your blatant misrepresentation of the facts?” wrote another Paul supporter.
You call yourself a ‘political correspondent’?? Shame on you,” commented another.
In reality, Paul is actually rapidly closing the gap on Mitt Romney in New Hampshire. the latest Suffolk University/7NEWS tracking poll, released on Sunday, shows that Ron Paul has surged 6 percentage points since last week to 20 percent, while Romney has dropped 8 points since last Wednesday and now stands at 35 percent.
That means the gap between the two is now down to 15 points. John Huntsman is the only other candidate in double figures, at 11 percent. As many highlighted last week, Rick Santorum does not have the resources to compete beyond Iowa and resides in a lowly fifth place in New Hampshire.
Romney is likely to see his numbers drop even further following a lack luster performance in two debates on Saturday and Sunday. The Suffolk University/7News poll, conducted before the debates took place, puts the number of undecided voters at 15 percent.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7394032n
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I had to switch to being a Democrat, when I saw the insanity of the GOP had grown to bow to their fundamentalist extremist overlords. I did that with sadness, but I won't be bought.
I do feel strongly we need a third party system. Otherwise, I vote for the lesser of damage.
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I feel Ron Paul is using the Republican "status", just to keep in with the support. I still feel he's going to break off & run as independent.
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AMERICA can NOT have anymore of the same as this............
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I'm very impressed with Ron Paul. He has walked the walk and proven that he can't be bought. I love that he is honest and real.
It's too bad that the cards are stacked against him because he actually WILL make changes and those calling the shots would never want that. I hope he runs as a 3rd party also.
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If Ron Paul doesn't make it to the presidency, we all know why. Yes, he's for US THE PEOPLE!!!
He's not accepted one penny from any Wall Street Cronies!!
The Elites' are running scared that America is waking up. But not fast enough. So spread the word.
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The media has tried to destroy Ron Paul, just like they also tried to do to Michael Jackson. Except this time, we won't stand for it.
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The problem is the system in its entirety, it's nearly impossible for a "good guy" to be elected. It almost needs a miracle for things to really change at this point.
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It almost needs a miracle for things to really change at this point.
- agree. Only miracle can change things now :( and I doubt what people think is "good guy"
is that good. Time will show, real soon.
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If Ron Paul breaks off and goes Indy, then he'll definitely lose! Take a look at WHO votes in the Electoral College!! What we do, matters for naught. Congress & Senate get to vote for President, after seeing who their constituents say.
That's how Bush stole his second term, because Public Vote is useless.
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That's how Bush stole his second term, because Public Vote is useless.
- please people tell me it was this way as I refuse to believe people actually voted for him
second time around! I mean, second time?! I still have faith in Americans as I always thought
his victory was artificially created. No way you voted like that, no way. /overreacting/
Imagine Paul wins, and imagine this changes nothing. This is my biggest concern.
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It almost needs a miracle for things to really change at this point.
- agree. Only miracle can change things now :( and I doubt what people think is "good guy"
is that good. Time will show, real soon.
Two sides of the same coin. The same way 'they' set up Obama to be the under dog of a minority group--Afro-Americans, supposedly history in the making. But what did he really change--nothing--same old--same Zionism pulling the strings. Ron Paul could be set up to look like the underdog, but watch out...
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Even though we all know how corrupt the system is, we still have to keep voicing our freedoms. If Ron Paul doesn't get in, his son is a Senator, & Jesse Ventura could be our next possible. But we've woken up many millions of people, we just have to keep exposing corruption even on a lower level like us going to town meetings or speaking up against TSA STICKING THEIR HANDS DOWN OUR KIDS PANTS. Everything helps.
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It almost needs a miracle for things to really change at this point.
- agree. Only miracle can change things now :( and I doubt what people think is "good guy"
is that good. Time will show, real soon.
Two sides of the same coin. The same way 'they' set up Obama to be the under dog of a minority group--Afro-Americans, supposedly history in the making. But what did he really change--nothing--same old--same Zionism pulling the strings. Ron Paul could be set up to look like the underdog, but watch out...
I agree,i feel like we are being manipulated, the same way as we supported Obama,he said all the right things,now look where we are.History normally repeats itself,and it seems we have been down this road before.If Paul really means what he says,then there is no way,he wins this election.I guess we will have to see how this pans out.I have a strong feeling that Obama,will be reelected.I think we are doomed,either way it plays out,unless we find a way to overthrow the hijackers that run our country.
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Even though we all know how corrupt the system is, we still have to keep voicing our freedoms. If Ron Paul doesn't get in, his son is a Senator, & Jesse Ventura could be our next possible. But we've woken up many millions of people, we just have to keep exposing corruption even on a lower level like us going to town meetings or speaking up against TSA STICKING THEIR HANDS DOWN OUR KIDS PANTS. Everything helps.
Exactly! I am a Ron Paul supporter, and so many people I talk to think he can't win so they don't bother. Well, at least things like the Federal Reserve and NDAA bill are being openly discussed in debates now...that's a HUGE step in the right direction. And the people who have woken up will NEVER be able to go back to "sleep" - it's impossible. Like Ron Paul said himself, "I'm not just trying to win an election, I'm trying to change the course of history".
I would bet an arm and a leg that Michael Jackson would support Dr. Paul for president. Do I think they are secretly working together? Lol, no. But I do believe in Divine Timing and that everything happens for a reason. It is not a coincidence that this Ron Paul rEVOLution is taking place at the same time as MJ's "revolution". It's one big revolution in general and these are just the men chosen to lead the way. It actually gives me goosebumps now that I think about it!
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Obama did the best he could do, with Republicans REFUSING to be moderate in both the House and Congress, thus sandbagging almost everything he tried to achieve.
I blame those people, not the President, along with the Pentagon, who seems to really only run themselves.
Pres. Obama has worked hard, and being a President during a Recession caused by your Predecessor isn't an easy task.
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That's how Bush stole his second term, because Public Vote is useless.
- please people tell me it was this way as I refuse to believe people actually voted for him
second time around! I mean, second time?! I still have faith in Americans as I always thought
his victory was artificially created. No way you voted like that, no way. /overreacting/
Imagine Paul wins, and imagine this changes nothing. This is my biggest concern.
@Aidan - Go back in history, and you'll see that he LOST the majority vote in Florida. They locked Blacks, other Minorities out of the poll booths prematurely, but it didn't matter. Bush's brother was the Gov. of Florida, and enabled him to steal the election, via. Electoral College votes!
This has happened more than once in history, it's on the internet. bearhug
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Even though we all know how corrupt the system is, we still have to keep voicing our freedoms. If Ron Paul doesn't get in, his son is a Senator, & Jesse Ventura could be our next possible. But we've woken up many millions of people, we just have to keep exposing corruption even on a lower level like us going to town meetings or speaking up against TSA STICKING THEIR HANDS DOWN OUR KIDS PANTS. Everything helps.
Exactly! I am a Ron Paul supporter, and so many people I talk to think he can't win so they don't bother. Well, at least things like the Federal Reserve and NDAA bill are being openly discussed in debates now...that's a HUGE step in the right direction. And the people who have woken up will NEVER be able to go back to "sleep" - it's impossible. Like Ron Paul said himself, "I'm not just trying to win an election, I'm trying to change the course of history".
I would bet an arm and a leg that Michael Jackson would support Dr. Paul for president. Do I think they are secretly working together? Lol, no. But I do believe in Divine Timing and that everything happens for a reason. It is not a coincidence that this Ron Paul rEVOLution is taking place at the same time as MJ's "revolution". It's one big revolution in general and these are just the men chosen to lead the way. It actually gives me goosebumps now that I think about it!
I feel what you're saying,and i thought how great would it be if M.J. is really connected with Paul and the rEVOLution.Unfortunately,i have a hard time believing that the terrorists that run our country,will allow an honest,god fearing, freedom and justice for the people,humanitarian like Mr.Paul to become President.Nope,i dont see it happening.Imo,they want to futher their agenda for the NWO,and they will certainly hand pick their puppet of choice.
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All of our past presidents have been 'groomed" & selected by the corrupt scum bags that run this country. The Rockerfellers, The corrupt bankers, (the federal reserve) is no more federal than the federal express. The Federal Reserve is private banks. Go ahead try to find the The Federal Reserve under "government" .... it's not there. Even if Ron Paul is sabatoged, which we all know he has been. We all know the polls are rigged, that doesn't mean we have to stop voicing our freedoms of our rights. We have a Bill of Rights, Constution, Declaration of Independence that is getting dis-mantled right under under noses. If if Ron Paul doesn't make it to the presidency we all know that America is waking or slowing waking up in some areas to the corruptness. The Elites all knew that bringing in Obama would sell the NWO. He was charasstimac, slicking talking, smooth, he had all the "newbies" of voters hooked. They need a "black smooth" president to sell the NWO. But since all his lies, & we all knew he would lie, because he's not running the show. A president is just a puppet, & Obama will go out to be the most hated president of all times. Hands down!! But he don't care, that was what he was suppose to be. The puppets know this going in.....This is your job to sail the American people down river........Bankrupt all middle class..........Get them sucked into OBAMACARE........ the list goes on & on & on.......it's sickening.
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I also believe Michael Jackson has nothing to do with Ron Paul. It's just I feel a coincendence it's all for "LOVE"..
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I also believe Michael Jackson has nothing to do with Ron Paul. It's just I feel a coincendence it's all for "LOVE"..
Obviously, the two have nothing in common. It's called CAMPAIGNING!
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The candidates, after seeing how popular Ron Paul's message and principals are, have all started spouting his ideals,( the unimaginitive thieves) phony liars all.I think Ron Paul would do fine in a face to face debate with obama...the truth is powerful and that's all he needs imo...
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The truth can no longer be ignored. How many more military men & women have to die in the "false flag of war". Just to guard opium fields, so we can ship the drugs in. Ron Paul speaks volumes of truth. That's all he needs to do. Americans are sick & tired of being sick & tired. If Ron Paul doesn't make it, we always have his son. It doesn't matter what polls are anywhere. The numbes are munipulated. We all know that. But it can't stop us from speaking up & out. The mainstream media intentinally sabatoges Ron Paul. We know that. Ron Paul hasn't accepted any money from Wall Street corrupt banking system(federal reserve). And he's the only one receiving most amount of donations from our own military. Which is eye opening for our military, especially since they've come to the realization( if not doped up from all the vaccines they make our military people go thru) that this war is NEVER going to be over, with the puppets we have running the show. Military has realized that this "war of drugs" is just our military guarding the opium fields, kill of the competition & keep shipping the opium in the US, sell it on the street, keep the American's hooked on opium, drives up the price, & then when we're hooked, & try to get off the opium, send you to a facility that specializes in "detox" with more BIG PHARMA DRUGS, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE A REPEAT CUSTOMER.
If anyone wants to see how Obama was groomed for his presidency of puppets, watch the Obama Deception. You can find the full length on You Tube. All we can do is keep voicing our 1st amendment.....Freedom of Speech. Slowly the NWO is trying to take rights away, as long as we keep allowing them to. Just say NO! to TSA sticking their hands down your pants at the airports, let alone you are literally being fried by the radiation. Vaccines ( flu, HPV, ) ANY VACCINE, is causing neurlogical damge, Guille Barre, death, the list goes on & on. The same very disease that Big Pharma says will get rid of, is the very same disease you will get. We as American's have to take care of our health, so we can stand up this NWO of tyranny. Make sure American's are getting vitamin d-3. at least 10,000 iu a day. That will cure 4 out of 5 cancers. Lets keep making the truth be known about the NWO, & face the liars with the TRUTH!!!
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@Tink....
The way the government is run, by the corrupt private bankers. Those are the ones who are calling the shots. It doesn't matter if your Republican or Democrat. They are both paid by the private bankers. American's have to think like it was pro-wrestling. The Democrats & Republicans act like their opposed to each other. Their NOT. They just have to put on the show. In the end they are BOTH WORKING FOR THE PRIVATE BANKERS. That is where all their campaign money comes from. Goldman Sacs, Rockerfellers, JP Morgan, Chase Visa, Citi-Bank, etc... there is not fighting among the Republicans & Democrats, its all show. They are all working for the NWO. Obama came in at a great time ( the time they planned & groomed him for) . everyone wanted "change", they we're sick of Bush, hey this guy Obama has to be the savior. Nope same mold, same agenda. Ron Paul is our only hope at this point. Buy gold & silver, because when the dollar is devaluated this year, the 401k's will be wiped out. Stolen by the USA. I already liquidated mine. Protect what assests you have before it's gone.
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@Tink....
Protect what assests you have before it's gone.
Love reading your posts! What do you think about savings? Should we get as much money out of the bank as we can while we can?
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@youarenotalone........
Yes, any money you have in your checking, savings, 401k, will be either be wiped out or when the value of the value of the dollar gets de-valuated this year. The elites have shared information with Lindsey Williams ( check him out on you tube also) on what's going to be happening in 2012. The value of dollar WILL BE de-valuated at least 40%. This is what elites have been telling him. It will happen in 2012. It will happen on a Holiday weekend. It will happen on a Friday, & banks will be closed on Monday, following the holiday weekend. So everyone who has per sey $10,000 on Friday. When it's announced it's de-valuated, you will have $6,000 on Tuesday when your able to access to it. BUT WAIT..... whom ever has gold & silver .....that just went up 40%. You notice TV commericals have "sell your gold & silver" for jewerly stores, pawn shops, etc..... they know what's going to happen. They want to buy your gold & silver NOW!!! before they announce the de-valuation. By end of 2012, gold will hit its all time high of $2000. FOR ANYONE WHO HAS GOLD & SILVER--- DO NOT! DO NOT!! SELL AT THIS TIME. Gold & silver are your only assets. Paper money is USELESS. American's need an "asset" to bargain with if things really get bad, bad. Even if all your gold is in broken rings, bracelets, necklaces, hang on to them. I took out all my 401k I could take out. The other half was what my company matched so I couldn't take it out. So when the de-value happens, or because my 401k is with JP Morgan, which is one of the private corrupt bankers, ( what we call Federal Reserve), I have no faith in any institution. Please don't ignore this warning. MF Global recently was bought out, & all around $1.6 billion ( & counting) was literally stolen & transferred over to JP Morgan, corrupt as hell, but this is what's happening. They are stealing private accounts, 401k, pension benefits of dead military personal, where their families were denied the benefits, but the government took over the pensions of the dead military men & women, without the families being able to do nothing, because the families we're denied the benefits, but the insurance company & government once again corrupt as HELL, & took their benefits. Yes, please take out what ever retirement you have, buy gold & silver. Paper money will be USELESS. Lindsey Williams has this information because some of the elites are up there in age, & they know they are going to meet their maker, knowing that innocent American's are dying, & bankrupted. Some can't live with themselves anyone, & are spilling what they know to warn American of the impending tragedy. Some are in so far in corruptness, they can't get out, plus their age makes it even harder, so they are spilling to Lindsey Williams so he can warn others. This is for real, he knows the insiders, he's trying to help America. If unsure, please look up Lindsey he has a solid history of telling the truth, & his sources are credible beyond a doubt. Yes, please everyone, your paper money will be useless. Protect yourself. Oh yea, the MF Global that stole on the money from customers & private accounts, the money is GONE!!! It will not be replaced, because MF Global is claiming they don't know who took it....yea right.....just like a day before 9-11, Rumsfield comes out and says the Pentagon can't find 2.7 trillion ( something in trillions) & wow ....guess what.....what a missle goes thru the Pentagon & wow guess where it hits..... the financial department....where it would show where the 2.7 trillion would've been stolen & transferred over to, like off shore banks... Oh yea......a plane hit the Pentagon.....another bunch of BULL SH!T!!
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The candidates, after seeing how popular Ron Paul's message and principals are, have all started spouting his ideals,( the unimaginitive thieves) phony liars all.I think Ron Paul would do fine in a face to face debate with obama...the truth is powerful and that's all he needs imo...
I totally agree with you on this one. I noticed more and more the other scum bags running with Paul, when I questioned was asked, that he knows he's against....he's say...." oh yes, just like Ron Paul I feel this dadadada........when he knows damn well he's opposed to what is being said. I just hope American's can see this "smoke & bullsht". I can see why Alex Jones would get so excited, frustrated, angry, and other other emotions, because I'm feeling the say way when I hear the lies, lies & more lies about this potential president candidates are trying to pull. Please American wake up!!! Ron Paul is our only hope at this point.
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Ron Paul is a plant from the John Birch Society...the very ones who're responsible for the paranoia of NWO, Illuminati, etc. When THEY are the ones responsible for printing it all, and started by Welch - Yeah, Welch's JELLY dude! That's an evil society, at the root of all this bizarre stuff on the internet.
Look, Depressions/Recessions happen periodically. Every generation LOVES to blame someone, to get off track.
FIXING things, that's the only way. Pay attention, make sure HOUSE & SENATE runners are MODERATES, will actually vote, work with others in the sandbox, and don't have hidden agendas!
You want my solid response on WHERE to put your money? Put it into a CREDIT UNION!
See, Credit Unions aren't created to make money off of you - they're actually there to help members.
Same as AAA roadside, car insurance.
If you cash in all of your gold/silver, then you set yourself up to get ROBBED, which is what has been happening in the poor areas, and upper middle class areas. I was alerted to this around Christmas, to put ALL my gold into a safe, and bolt it to the floor, or somewhere else safe. Cousin was at Walmart, and dude followed her to her car, said, "Gee, you have an awfully purty 18k gold necklace on there." So, she bolted - has pepper spray now, wearing only silver!
DO NOT wear any gold, unless inside, no diamonds, either. Just not safe! Most likely what those people in Beverly Hills are getting killed over, and their Mercedes.
I've switched to silver. Hoarding gold only causes trouble for everyone.
We have more people employed than 2 years ago. If they repealed NAFTA, then manufacturing jobs that were sent by APPLE to CHINA would have to come back here, along with many other American companies. THAT is where our jobs went - ASIA.
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I am really inspired by Ron Paul's message and his message has remained the same since the 80's. He wants the government to back off and to get our troops out of these dumb wars we are in. I have never believed in war. I think it's just senseless.
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That's what troubles me about buying gold and silver, or even hoarding food and supplies for that matter. It possibly sets you up for attack and robbery. Unless you carry guns as well. Makes me shudder to think how enjoyable life will be then when all this happens, worse case scenario. errrr
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That's what troubles me about buying gold and silver, or even hoarding food and supplies for that matter. It possibly sets you up for attack and robbery. Unless you carry guns as well. Makes me shudder to think how enjoyable life will be then when all this happens, worse case scenario. errrr
bearhug bearhug It will be okay, really! Just look at the lessons from the past 100 years, and you have your answers. ;))
Russia destroyed themselves, thus no WW3. American companies unfortunately, did send our jobs to China, thus temporarily boost their economy. This is where the new POLLUTION is coming from, that you can see from the satellites. Something must be done - the TOP 1% is responsible, by abusing NAFTA agreement. Now, we've caught them. We've navigated SEVERAL RECESSIONS, so don't panic! Everyone always blames someone else, it's just par for the course called: Politics!
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
Here's a chart that tracks GDP 1923 - 2009! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GDP_growth_1923-2009.jpg
Fear is what makes things worse. You should see all the empty buildings in CA! But, we'll get through it, like we always do.
I do suggest people stop watching all the disinformation put out on the internet, created to fleece you, pull you into their paranoia schemes. Stay away from watching what the moronic Hollywierdos do, who cares!? YOU have a life, and it is separate
from them! Stop wishing you were them. Actually, most of them don't live out here much anymore, they've sold their homes high, and bought ranches in other cheaper states low. Fly wherever for jobs.
BUT - thanks to the Internet itself, many of us have been able to utilize this global economy, to boost ourselves, and survive!
There is nothing to fear, but fear itself.
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Gold & silver will be your only assests....Credit unions, banks, doesn't matter what instution, it will be wiped out. Gold & silver, sure you wouldn't put it in a safe. You bury it. Remember gold & silver if you have rings, necklaces, etc.... who knows you have them??? you always would bury them. And there's plenty of ways to do it. When your talking burying it, your talking like 4 ft under ground, in PVC piping, & plenty of ways to throw off metal detectors. When you have money in a institution, it is NEVER SAFE!! There is NO FDIC, like your bank tells you, it's been looted by the Federal REserve. Remember your bank is suppose to make sure the FDIC is protecting your money, by matching your funds in case of bank or credit union failure? it won't be backed up. The money is gone. All I'm trying to do is warn you guys of upcoming tragedy. As long as you can afford to lose your 401k, then your ok. I have no faith in any instiution. Over 28% of Americans have already taken out the loans on the 401k, most in history.
When I look for answers I want the truth, I'm not wasting my time looking at "statitics" of someones "opinions". So when researching, go with your gut feeling, if someone is telling you the truth. If going to any government site, you can bet, your getting BS.
Just like the vaccines. Why is it that a 6 year child has to have 47 vaccines. Multiple vaccines of the same one. WHY??? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK!! MORE VACCINES....MORE DAMAGE..... My grandaughter went in for her 4 month checkup, & because she's not getting any vaccines, they tried pushing it again on my daughter. She refuses. But just for shits & grins asked how many she would've gotten?? 14 they we're going give that day.. 14----REALLY!!! TOTALLY DISGUSTING!!!
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Russia destroyed themselves? :roll: Already insignificant power?
Okay. This explains the need for Missile Defense and NATO stubbornness
with surrounding us :mrgreen: that's because there is no such thing as
mighty Russia already. Forget there is such country. Scarecrow moved to Middle East anyway.
Russia is the only country that will do anything to prevent new wars. We do
not want wars, anywhere. We might be forced into cr*p again, but we'll do anything not to be
actively involved. All new wars {yes, there will be more} will be started by those who started
last 5 or 6 or them. Will it be the size or WW? I sure hope not, but hundreds or thousands
of civilians will be slaughtered as always. On my continent, as always. We'll see blood
and bodies and refugees again. It will be all okay behind the oceans, so yeah, it will
be okay over there. Bless bombings, as long as it's there somewhere, it's for a good
reason, sure.
As for investment - I too recommend silver and gold. Silver actually did even better here.
Gold was ok. Dollars, Euros, local currency - all losers lol.
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people please remember, if you have gold & silver who's knows you have it? There is no receipts of gold, like the paper money that will be useless. I had taken half of my 401k out, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT I SPENT THE MONEY ON. It shows I took the money & ......... that's it.....no tracking of what I bought, what I buried, what I used it for. If you have "paper money", or money in the banks, credit unions, etc.... when the government takes over the institution, your money will be not returned. The bank went belly up, government stepped in, like it was engeneered, & your money is GONE!! My daughter currently doesn alot of couponing. She would post her "goodies" on her Facebook showing what kind of deals she got. I told her, don't do that anyone, because the government is getting lists of people from storage food companies, & they want to know who's starting to store foods away. If you have gold & silver , storable foods, DON'T GO EXPLOITING IT ON THE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER. Remember government monitors all those sites. And keep your family safe from would be robbers, don't talk about what you got.
@Tink......
I agree 100% on not wearing your valuables. With gold & silver skyrocketing, you'll become a target of someones else's need. Good advice Tink....see we do agree on lots of things.....(smile)...
Let's try to teach everyone to be safe & lets keep our freedoms of the USA!!!
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people please remember, if you have gold & silver who's knows you have it? There is no receipts of gold, like the paper money that will be useless. I had taken half of my 401k out, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT I SPENT THE MONEY ON. It shows I took the money & ......... that's it.....no tracking of what I bought, what I buried, what I used it for. If you have "paper money", or money in the banks, credit unions, etc.... when the government takes over the institution, your money will be not returned. The bank went belly up, government stepped in, like it was engeneered, & your money is GONE!! My daughter currently doesn alot of couponing. She would post her "goodies" on her Facebook showing what kind of deals she got. I told her, don't do that anyone, because the government is getting lists of people from storage food companies, & they want to know who's starting to store foods away. If you have gold & silver , storable foods, DON'T GO EXPLOITING IT ON THE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER. Remember government monitors all those sites. And keep your family safe from would be robbers, don't talk about what you got.
@Tink......
I agree 100% on not wearing your valuables. With gold & silver skyrocketing, you'll become a target of someones else's need. Good advice Tink....see we do agree on lots of things.....(smile)...
Let's try to teach everyone to be safe & lets keep our freedoms of the USA!!!
To be honest, all of this has happened before, it happens in waves. Don't over do it. Family member died years back, he was a hoarder, and I had to order a giant truck dumpster, to dispose all the cans of EXPIRED and rotting food he'd wasted his hard earned money on, it was heartbreaking! 10 years past the expiry, and worms in the flour. This is what happens, if you hoard for WW3! Nothing was worth anything, and we tossed thousands of dollars away, down the drain. House was a loss, just heart-breaking.
Gold went back down, after people stopped freaking out, btw. Things will equalize. Banks have been holding on to a backlog of houses, to try and artificially drive the prices up where they don't belong! Once this equalizes, then we can afford to buy houses even out here for a reasonable rate. Homes aren't meant to be out of this world - just a place to live. Not meant to retire on, you know.
Greedy salesmen and loansharks drove that over the top.
Everything in MODERATION, that's the key! That stops fear, that calms everyone down. Research Recessions since the Great Depression, and you have your answers: All is cyclic!
Not the end of the world. This is the year of the Mayans, so relax. Learn Culture, reach out to each other with LOVE in your heart! bearhug
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Back in those days, foods didn't have the shelf life like they do now. But shelf life on the foods today is usually because it's full of toxins they call preservatives. You can buy from storage food, that has shelf life of 7 plus years, not made out of the junk they have on our shelves they call "food". Superfoods have grown & it's what the body needs. With all the crap they put in foods, another reason why cancer has exploded. American's find it easier & cheaper to eat junk food. Proper nutrition doesn't seem to be a focus, if they sick, go to doctor, get a prescription....problem solved....!! until the immune system fails. Cancer is ........a failed immune system.
Gold & silver has been up & down, but the failure of the economy, is going to keep the price up. Paper money, I'll use that to start my fire, I'll need to keep warm.
With the failures of banks & instuitions, I was not willing let my money of my 401k vanish. With no chance of ever recovery. Thats just $$$$ of mine government is going to steal & launder to off shore banks. Sorry....they didn't get mine. Others won't be so lucky.......ask the ones that already had it happen......MF GLOBAL....poof........gone!
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Russia destroyed themselves? :roll: Already insignificant power?
Okay. This explains the need for Missile Defense and NATO stubbornness
with surrounding us :mrgreen: that's because there is no such thing as
mighty Russia already. Forget there is such country. Scarecrow moved to Middle East anyway.
Russia is the only country that will do anything to prevent new wars. We do
not want wars, anywhere. We might be forced into cr*p again, but we'll do anything not to be
actively involved. All new wars {yes, there will be more} will be started by those who started
last 5 or 6 or them. Will it be the size or WW? I sure hope not, but hundreds or thousands
of civilians will be slaughtered as always. On my continent, as always. We'll see blood
and bodies and refugees again. It will be all okay behind the oceans, so yeah, it will
be okay over there. Bless bombings, as long as it's there somewhere, it's for a good
reason, sure.
As for investment - I too recommend silver and gold. Silver actually did even better here.
Gold was ok. Dollars, Euros, local currency - all losers lol.
Yes indeed. That's why wars still do exist.
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Wars are going to exist, as long as government keeps fear & justification to going to war in the people's minds. War brings in $$$$$$ & natural resources, drugs, money can be laundered thru the corrupt system, & many innocent men & women will be killed in our military & civilians. Follow the trail of money, & corruptness of what "race" was targeted to fight the invisible boogeyman. The USA will attack what ever country we feel we can benefit from. Look up the false flags on USA BY THE USA!!! Gold & Silver will be the "ticket" of bargaining. Paper money will be absolutely useless.
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Ron Paul admits in speech to public that the FDA And Big Pharma 'are in bed together'
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 by: NaturalNews
(NaturalNews) Ron Paul makes a groundbreaking admission to the public on tape - that the FDA and Big Pharma are indeed "in bed together," both building up their monopolies and only interested in making more money. The Republican presidential candidate confirms that the corrupt corporations are running the show, that the FDA is doing more harm than good and many other eye-opening admittances.
Watch the video yourself at:
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=E422FE9A5D1E2C455393C681BB0E1D80
Ron Paul: It never works that way. You know, your safety and your drugs, for instance, it sounds like a reasonable thing. You want safety in your drugs. But the FDA and the drug companies are in bed together and they squeeze out competitions and build up their monopolies and they love government medicine because they make more money. The insurance companies and the drug companies, whether it's Democrats or Republicans reforming the medical care system, these corporations run the show. You know, they support it, it's because the government doesn't take it over. It's the corporations that end up taking over. So, it's well intended but I think it always backfires on us and that the people we're wanting to regulate end up writing their own regulations.
Reporter: So in that particular case would the reasonable alternative being no FDA?
Ron Paul: I think so because, I don't think, I think they've done more harm than good because sometimes it might take them 25 years to allow a good drug to come onto the marketplace and the rules and regulations inhibits the options of the physician to use drugs for anything other than not approved by the FDA, which means it slows up research and the cost goes up and then when it's approved by the FDA, guess what happens? If you're on the inside track of that- I'm the FDA- today I approve this drug, tomorrow, their drug company's value, their stock goes up fifty fold. Just because a bureaucrat made this decision. So, it's a protection of the corporation is basically what it is. People weren't dying from bad drugs before we had the FDA. I mean, it just didn't happen. There'd be other agencies that would do this. There'd be no reason to assume that all of a sudden, the drug companies have it in their interest to give you a bad drug.
Reporter: Well, I'm not sure what fits in there and it's hard to prove a negative, but are you assuming that there are no bad drugs
Ron Paul: There's plenty of bad drugs, and the FDA's permitted a lot of them to get on the market, too. I mean bad drugs on the market now. Did you ever see a PDR? They're about that big and about half of them are useless. But if it's FDA approved- and what does the FDA do when it comes to alternative or natural products? The FDA and the drug industry keeps them off the market. A natural drug product, alternative health care, freedom of choice, it is obstructed from those making those free choices. So it's there to protect the drug industry. They very often do exactly the opposite. I believe in free choice on picking alternative care rather than having it licensed through the FDA and these drug approvals. It delays, it costs so many- this is one reason why drug costs are so high, because it goes through years and years and years of litigation and getting approval, and that's a source of making drug costs much higher in cost.
Reporter: So how did we get to this mess? Let's just stick with FDA or go with Nuclear Regulatory Commission, but how is it that this body of burdensome regulations was allowed to develop? Is it parts of the private sector finding ways to protect themselves or what?
Ron Paul: I don't know, I haven't done a detailed history of exactly this but my assumption would be that it'd be a lot of well noted people saying, well, we need these regulations to help the people and protect the people. But those individuals and the companies that are involved immediately leap to it and take over and find out how they can keep out their competition. What industry it is, whether it's the housing industry, housing insurance, it's always to squeeze the little guy out and protect the big industries. Competition serves the competitor who is trying to compete with big industry, and I don't like to see government protecting big industries and big corporations.
Watch the video at:
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=E422FE9A5D1E2C455393C681BB0E1D80
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035519_Ron_Paul_FDA_Big_Pharma.html#ixzz1rbhBnj4o