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Hoax Theories => References & Similarities => Michael Jackson & Elvis Presley Similarities => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on December 25, 2009, 09:42:13 AM

Title: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 25, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
Please watch these you tube videos and tell me what you think???
It could explain why MJ married Lisa Marie, so he could talk more with the king of rock regarding his hoax death......this is pretty freaky.  The similarities are uncanny.

[youtube:2ioo5iy2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e30euUfVzKk&feature=related[/youtube:2ioo5iy2]



And all of these you must see........
[youtube:2ioo5iy2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=havV64Jv3gQ[/youtube:2ioo5iy2]
[youtube:2ioo5iy2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP2d33cnrik[/youtube:2ioo5iy2][youtube:2ioo5iy2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uXc8yeQLSw&feature=related[/youtube:2ioo5iy2]
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 25, 2009, 09:55:02 AM
:? oh man i am confused i have just had some mulled wine so i cant deal with this now i will think on it and come back later
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: SeeingClues on December 25, 2009, 10:03:13 AM
imagine if they both came back together...
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: lisap27 on December 25, 2009, 10:08:03 AM
this first video i have just said the exact same things about the drs working on michael if he'd been dead for a while!! i just said this on the other thread!! it wouldn't be done!!

thats freaked me out a bit..  :shock:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 25, 2009, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
imagine if they both came back together...
:shock: IF THAT HAPPENED THEN I WOULD NEED CPR :shock:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: lisap27 on December 25, 2009, 10:15:34 AM
2nd video sounds like he's reading a script written by Michael.. the lonliness.. not trusting people.. a gift from god.. hmmmmmm  :shock:

3rd video.. nothing.. different noses etc..

first 2 are good tho.. :)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on December 25, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
This is AMAZING!!!!!!
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Think About That T-Shirt, Michael Lives could actually mean MICHAEL ELVIS, is the hat on the shirt a subtle clue to "hatman?"
Imagine though, we have been looking for Michael, when all along Elvis could've been right under our noses...infront of our eyes! Whatever way about Hatman, He's keeping it under his hat.  8-)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: StripedFeline on December 25, 2009, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
This is AMAZING!!!!!!
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Think About That T-Shirt, Michael Lives could actually mean MICHAEL ELVIS, is the hat on the shirt a subtle clue to "hatman?"
Imagine though, we have been looking for Michael, when all along Elvis could've been right under our noses...infront of our eyes! Whatever way about Hatman, He's keeping it under his hat.  8-)

Fantastic insight.  :D Blimey, it'd be amazing if they both came back ... together.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 25, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
It was established on this previous site that the "hatman" is Rick Baker. Elvis is now in his 70s, he cannot possibly be hatman.
Many thought hatman was Michael and now is Elvis???  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: tinker_bell on December 25, 2009, 10:59:20 AM
Quote from: "StripedFeline"
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
This is AMAZING!!!!!!
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

Think About That T-Shirt, Michael Lives could actually mean MICHAEL ELVIS, is the hat on the shirt a subtle clue to "hatman?"
Imagine though, we have been looking for Michael, when all along Elvis could've been right under our noses...infront of our eyes! Whatever way about Hatman, He's keeping it under his hat.  8-)

Fantastic insight.  :D Blimey, it'd be amazing if they both came back ... together.

Soon and very soon... we're gonna see both Kings  :D

ah, wishful thinking... Elvis is indeed in his 70's now, but look at Joe, he's above 80 and still kicking ;-)

no, but seriously, the similarities in this case are creely.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Suzy on December 25, 2009, 11:03:34 AM
This is not amazing!They are fooling around with us!When will Michael be back?NEVER??
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 25, 2009, 11:09:48 AM
Elvis "died" 32 years ago. What makes you think he will be back now? Why would he come back now? If he is alive he must have been very happy to be not in the public eye to stay away for all those years.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 25, 2009, 11:45:56 AM
First...Merry Christmas. I am taking a food and drink break to peek in on you guys.

Elvis is now possibly hatman and may make a comeback with Michael? Wow...see what happens when we have slow news days. :lol:

Consider this...MJ has been gone for a mere 6 months while Elvis has been gone 32 long years. Take a wild,  wild , wild guess which return would generate headline news and which would fall into the back pages. The first person with the correct answer will get a prize.  ;)

Enjoy your day. Gotta run...there is slice of pie calling my name and some spiked egg nog joining in the chorus. Hugs and kisses everyone.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 25, 2009, 12:22:51 PM
Please I do NOT think  ELVIS IS RETURNING AT MJ'S COMEBACK.  THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING......ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF ELVIS HELPED HIM HOAX HIS DEATH, THEN IS IT POSSIBLE MJ WOULD INVITE HIM TO THE MEMORIAL AND FUNERAL TO SEE HOW IT ALL WORKED OUT?  ELVIS WOULD NEVER COME BACK AGAIN, BUT HE COULD STILL BE ALIVE AND HELPED MJ PLAN HIS HOAX, CONSIDERING HE HAS SUCCEDED HIDING FOR SO LONG.  TOO MANY SIMILARITIES.  EVEN IF IT'S NOT ELVIS, THEN WHY WAS HE WAVING AT LISA-MARIE PRESLEY????? AND LATER SEEN HOLDING HER KIDS???  THESE ARE ALL THE ELVIS HOAX VIDEOS TO WATCH....PLEASE TRY AND WATCH THEM ALL.  IT ALL SOUNDS TOO FAMILIAR.  THANKS.  THESE ARE JUST MORE IDEAS I'M THROWING AT US ALL>>> ENJOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mkZUBdtu5A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mkZUBdtu5A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2sUZ16hpmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2sUZ16hpmU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaFHGqjvM8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaFHGqjvM8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxz20BJBsKA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxz20BJBsKA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVGneYyJ44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVGneYyJ44)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Grace on December 25, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
I didn't even watch the videos. I already stumbled over the picture of Elvis in the coffin.
It looks far too young for a drug addicted man in his forties. Effect of looking too much into MJ's hoax I would say... LOL

On one of the sites having information on Elvis in the coffin this comes up (and yes, Larry King was doing the interviews by then already):
"For example, Mr. Bailey continued, there was a large sum of money transferred from the Memphis Bank and Trust which we all know handled Elvis' assets, in early August of 1977, to a bank in the state of Michigan. We have employees of the bank, who after years of silence, are coming forward to support this claim. The fact that it was Michigan is relevant because of the tremendous number of sightings of Elvis in Michigan".

When pressed by Larry King for more Mr. Bailey continued. "Larry, we have very credible evidence from a former IRS agent and of course at this time we can't give his name, that Elvis Presley and not the Elvis Presley Estate has been paying income taxes since 1977. This former agent had access to returns of celebrities and very rich people and came across this highly sensitive and classified material inadvertently" F. Lee Bailey who achieved notoriety in the 1950's defending Sam Sheppard and then in the 1990's with O.J.Simpson continued."

"Larry that last picture of Elvis that his cousin took for the National Enquirer looks more like Elvis in his 20s. We have subpoenaed the Enquirer for the negative, in order to run a neutron activation analysis in order to determine the makeup of the object in the photograph". "Larry, if you add up the numbers of Elvis' death date 8-16-1977it totals 2001. His theme song was 2001 Space Odyssey. I'd say that in itself is an odyssey". Mr. Bailey then stated, "The US Mail continues to deliver all of Elvis' mail to Graceland and not one single letter has ever been Returned to Sender. What does that tell you Larry? Larry they said we didn't have a chance defending O.J. and look what happened. Johnnie Cochran said, "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit". Larry, I'm no Johnnie Cochran but I will leave you with this, "If we can debunk all this jive, I'd say there is a good chance that Elvis is alive!""
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisExhumed.html (http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisExhumed.html)

Also existing at the time: GERALDO talkback show.

"why haven't the executors of Elvis Presley Estate made a public statement to discredit any of these 'still alive' rumours?' Common sense prevailing, this issue rests squarely on the business of making money! And Jack Soden, chief-executor (directly under Priscilla Presley) in charge of promotions and marketing of the Elvis image, dutifully confirmed this in August 1989, in a statement to the press. He said, "as for Giorgio's book, why kill-off the golden goose, she pays the Presley Estate, thousands a year in royalties..."
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisAutopsy.html (http://www.elvispresleynews.com/ElvisAutopsy.html)

I am not saying that Elvis is alive and that he attended MJ's memorial as hatman.
Rick Baker looks really convincing.

But it is just astounding - with our "checkout minds" of today's knowledge - to look at the inconsistencies of Elvis death. E.g. there was a public viewing of the body August 17, 1977 whereas the coroner stated that they took all vital organs, the brain and vital fluids out of the body and stored them at Memphis Memorial Hospital.
Without knowing too much about the case, I would say that this already is fishy.

So even if Rick Baker may be the person at the memorial, thank you for posting.
Elvis is worth a second look, too.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: larab on December 25, 2009, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
imagine if they both came back together...

how nice would that be! lol :lol:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on December 25, 2009, 01:54:34 PM
The Elvis Guy says to press 777 talking about about somebody who is ill in 2008,  777's again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uXc8yeQLSw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uXc8yeQLSw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOYbXeLTnf0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOYbXeLTnf0)
elvis in home alone
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: angelshadow on December 25, 2009, 01:58:58 PM
MJ and Elvis have too many common characteristics with your 'death'....
This I think always
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: llebreknit on December 25, 2009, 02:54:33 PM
Sorry to say this...........ridiculous !!!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: angelshadow on December 25, 2009, 02:56:59 PM
Ja es ist lustig anzunehmen Elvis mit MJ bei der Gedenkfeier.....
Aber das Ableben ähnelt sich enorm (wenn man sich gut über Elvis Informiert hat) dann merkt man das
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Eva R on December 25, 2009, 03:04:04 PM
First, some were joking that Elvis would help Michael's hoax, but now people believe it. I don't really believe it.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: llebreknit on December 25, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
These kind of things make some believers think we are wasting our time. It doesnt seem serious at all. It sounds a joke.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: angelshadow on December 25, 2009, 03:17:40 PM
I would like to incorporate only comparisons.
There is Paralelen between E.P and M.J
 (Concerning the death)

I think we have already discussed more ridiculous theories

At that time something was with Elvis also loose .... and the history does not recur from alone

My opinion
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Happy Feet on December 25, 2009, 04:26:14 PM
I'm sorry, but  I don't mean any disrespect, but are we grasping at straws here? I don't think Elvis is helping Michael out here. Michael and Lisa parted over 10 years ago and not under happy terms. If Michel was planning his death hoax way back then, I doubt very much he would of had 3 children along the way to raise and then put through all of this.  His hoax, I believe would of had to be planned within the new millenium. Given the fact he is the only parent actively involved in the lives of his 3 kids, I would say his reasoning behind this would have to be serious and genuine.  

I don't think Elvis(if he is alive, not sure on this one) would be in on this either. Why would he be? If Elvis is alive, why would he even want to come back now?  It's not like Elvis is going to make a return to the stage or anything.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: angelshadow on December 25, 2009, 04:36:19 PM
The Elvis return on the stage does do not believe I  :lol:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on December 25, 2009, 05:56:36 PM
It is documented that Mike said he would end up like Elvis. Even if you don't believe Elvis faked his death, look into his death and there a lot of "Coincidences."
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 25, 2009, 08:25:20 PM
Thankyou for all your insights and thoughts.  We all know for a fact that MJ married LiseMarie!!!!!!!  If her father was still alive, don't you think Lisa would of told MJ that?  Wouldn't she have introduced her father to him at some point of their marriage???  Maybe they talked for hours as a father-in-law to son inlaw stuff. Who knows.  What else could they have talked about?  This could of started the idea of a hoax for MJ.  But I agree, he had been planning it for only about a year now.  Something so elaborate couldn't be spontaneuos.  Not suggesting Elvis helped him, but certainly could have given him many ideas.    "ELVIS HAS NO REASON TO COME BACK AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL" (sorry guys)  But he has to get around doesn't he?  Why not show up at his ex son-in-laws funeral and memorial.  The blonde could have been his girlfriend???????
*Alot of fans and celebraties wore one glove as a gesture to MJ.  Even Liz Taylor was wearing a black glove on her left hand at the funeral. The old man was wearing a black glove on his right hand etc......
I am going to attach a youtube video that I have made, even before the death hoax forum started........I made it to show alot of similarities of the two kings.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: larab on December 25, 2009, 08:39:23 PM
OR elvis died of a drug overdose(and it is much more probable)..
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Happy Feet on December 25, 2009, 08:45:40 PM
Quote from: "larab"
OR elvis died of a drug overdose(and it is much more probable)..

 :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 25, 2009, 10:41:38 PM
@Girl Saturday  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  "see what happens when we have slow news days" lolllllll :lol:
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Lorrie on December 25, 2009, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: "Happy Feet"
I don't think Elvis is helping Michael out here. Michael and Lisa parted over 10 years ago and not under happy terms. If Michel was planning his death hoax way back then, I doubt very much he would of had 3 children along the way to raise and then put through all of this.
The quote above wins my award for best comment on this thread. Always remember Prince, Paris and Blanket and Michael's immense love for them. Elvis Presley is also dead, in my opinion, and has been for decades.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 25, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
Quote from: "Lorrie"
Quote from: "Happy Feet"
I don't think Elvis is helping Michael out here. Michael and Lisa parted over 10 years ago and not under happy terms. If Michel was planning his death hoax way back then, I doubt very much he would of had 3 children along the way to raise and then put through all of this.
The quote above wins my award for best comment on this thread. Always remember Prince, Paris and Blanket and Michael's immense love for them. Elvis Presley is also dead, in my opinion, and has been for decades.
I'll third that IMO. Applause Applause!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 26, 2009, 02:16:05 AM
The meaning of INVESTIGATE:  
to inquire into (a situation or problem, esp a crime or death) thoroughly; examine systematically, esp in order to discover the truthOK guys.  Some comments are a bit too personal .  I spend at least 5 hrs a day trying to find any sort of new clues or strange coincidences.

What happenned to "freedom of speech."  

I've worked in the field of private investigation for years.  "A person who has not been proven guilty, is always innocent first,  especially when there is any reasonable doubt . We should  all  be working as a TEAM  and the importance of this site is to share different ideas, findings and opinions, not for ridicule.   Honestly, who really knows what's going on.  This site is about trying to find clues, not the TRUTH.   The  TRUTH will be the end of this journey.  I don't want to feel that I need to stop looking for odd things, in fear of being put down.  Please comment with more empathy.  We all are desperate for any thing new.  

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.........THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT!!!!!!!


CHEERS...HAVE A GREAT INVESTIGATING DAY, AND LET'S  HOPE THAT MJ IS READING ALL THIS AND THINKING  "IT'S ALL FOR LOVE...L.O.V.E
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 26, 2009, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
The meaning of INVESTIGATE:  
to inquire into (a situation or problem, esp a crime or death) thoroughly; examine systematically, esp in order to discover the truthOK guys.  Some comments are a bit too personal .  I spend at least 5 hrs a day trying to find any sort of new clues or strange coincidences.

What happenned to "freedom of speech."  

I've worked in the field of private investigation for years.  "A person who has not been proven guilty, is always innocent first,  especially when there is any reasonable doubt . We should  all  be working as a TEAM  and the importance of this site is to share different ideas, findings and opinions, not for ridicule.   Honestly, who really knows what's going on.  This site is about trying to find clues, not the TRUTH.   The  TRUTH will be the end of this journey.  I don't want to feel that I need to stop looking for odd things, in fear of being put down.  Please comment with more empathy.  We all are desperate for any thing new.  

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.........THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT!!!!!!!


CHEERS...HAVE A GREAT INVESTIGATING DAY, AND LET'S  HOPE THAT MJ IS READING ALL THIS AND THINKING  "IT'S ALL FOR LOVE...L.O.V.E

You are right and I do apolagize. I was tired yesterday and you know I'm the one always telling people if they don't agree witht the theory to just leave the thread. I meant it in fun and tried not be personal and I'm sorry you took it that way. I like the sentence saying "truth is at the end of the journey,we are searching for clues"...more members need to see that one,because nothing is TOTALLY out of the question. I just think that even if Elvis faked his death(and as much as he worshipped his daughter,I dont think he did) he would probably be gone by now. But that my opinion and sorry for the laughing comments.  :D Its all for love...L.O.V.E
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 27, 2009, 08:22:50 AM
No problem.  I think we are all getting frustrated, weary and scared.  Sometimes we want to see things that aren't really there, but that's how we can start the process of elimination.   But any thoughts are GOOD thoughts.  It means we are looking at all possibilities and have an open mind. To look outside the square, is a positive approach.  LOVE YOU ALL.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 01, 2010, 07:42:32 AM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
imagine if they both came back together...


PLEASE WATCH THIS:
This is a Lise Maries My space messages after MJ's passing.  The news reported it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHoLHFKl7IM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHoLHFKl7IM)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: mjjveritas on January 02, 2010, 09:50:31 AM
2good2btrue, You call Fox News "news"? Only joking, I actually watch Fox instead of comedy.  ;)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 02, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS ARTICLE POSTED 5 YEARS AGO.  


NEW DNA TEST ON CORPSE BURIED IN GRACELAND GRAVE PROVES IT ISN'T PRESLEY, SAYS NEW REPORT MEMPHIS
(Source: Weekly World News, 20 September 2004)

The body buried in Elvis Presley's grave is not the body of Elvis Presley, according to a new report!

The stunning news comes from author and Elvis expert Robert Craner who, for nearly four years, spearheaded a crusade to have the corpse exhumed. Backed by the money and influence of six wealthy Memphis businessmen, he finally won court approval last week.

"At last, thanks to DNA tests and dental records, we can say with 100 percent certainty that a hoax has been perpetrated on millions of Americans," Craner says. "Someone else was buried in the grave of Elvis Aaron Presley."

Weekly World News first broke the story of Craner's quest to test the body in our August 22, 1995, issue. It has taken him this long to get the go-ahead.

Under cover of darkness, genetic scientists removed the body from its grave and ran extensive tests. Their findings confirm the darkest suspicions of millions. The ornate grave at the Graceland mansion does not contain the remains of The King of rock and roll. "Neither I nor anyone involved in this project will speculate on whose body has been buried there since 1977," Craner told the NEWS.

"But after nearly five years of red tape and resistance from people with vested interests in keeping the truth from coming to light, I have finally proven what I -- and countless others -- have believed for 22 years: The body in that grave isn't The King's."

Craner showed reporters documentation that, he says, proves his astonishing allegations. The tests were supervised by noted Austrian geneticist Max Vorst. "We extracted 16 hairs from the corpse's head and five skin samples," Dr. Vorst said. "We matched all of them with DNA samples known to be from Mr. Presley. "But we only did the DNA tests to make sure we were being absolutely thorough. It was already obvious from dental records that the body we had exhumed wasn't that of Elvis."

Craner says that despite the newfound evidence, Graceland officials and the Presley family insist the body is Elvis'. They are demanding that the body be returned to the grave. Craner refused to name the six businessmen who financed the project but said their reasons were not the same as his.

"My partners are shocked by this discovery," Craner said. "They sought the disinterment hoping it would silence the doubters and prove, once and for all, that Elvis is dead. "Elvis is an industry that generates millions of dollars for the local economy. My partners felt that the rumors that Elvis is alive were hurting that industry. They wanted the tests to show the world that The King really died. "But, unlike them, I never believed -- and still don't believe -- that The King is dead."

Craner said he will not stop with this stunning discovery. "I won't rest until I find out who this body belongs to and what really became of Elvis," he says. "There's a lot more work ahead."
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on January 02, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
Did anyone in the UK notice that before Xmas we had Mike night on BBC2, and this weekend we have had Elvis night, with Elvis Comeback Tour 68 included, Is that a clue?
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 03, 2010, 01:00:20 AM
Could be..........Just off the topic, the New Years Eve fireworks show in Melbourne and Sydney Australia, both included some of Mj's songs about heal the world....It was so nice to see that.  We here downunder, have huge respect for him....
Now back to the Elvis thing, I think we in Australia will be seeing it too!  I will keep you informed.
One of the shirts worn by Marlon, also had on it...J-i-E .  (Jackson & Elvis) (Jackson is Elvis)?  I think my brain is in overdrive now...
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: Happy Feet on January 03, 2010, 02:57:12 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Could be..........Just off the topic, the New Years Eve fireworks show in Melbourne and Sydney Australia, both included some of Mj's songs about heal the world....It was so nice to see that.  We here downunder, have huge respect for him....
Now back to the Elvis thing, I think we in Australia will be seeing it too!  I will keep you informed.
One of the shirts worn by Marlon, also had on it...J-i-E .  (Jackson & Elvis) (Jackson is Elvis)?  I think my brain is in overdrive now...

Yeah I noticed that here in Sydney! It put a smile on my face  :) Think the first one was "Don't stop till u get enough".
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: clarahowhope on January 03, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
32 years ago  :?  No !

I think, he watched it on TV!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: mjjveritas on January 07, 2010, 01:51:18 PM
There has been talk of similarities between MJ and Elvis Presley on this forum and elsewhere. MJ in TII has an Egyptian symbol, the ankh on his clothing which you can see in some shots. I watched a BBC program in the UK a few days ago called "Elvis In Vegas" and someone mentioned that Elvis used to wear three necklaces. They were a Christian cross, a Jewish star and an Egytian ankh. Whether this is of any significance I'm not too sure. The other point I thought I'd mention was that Elvis used to incorporate Karate moves into his live performances on stage. Very recently there were photos and videos of MJ's children going to and from Karate. This may be completely irrelevant but I wanted to let you know anyway.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: zyla on February 13, 2010, 11:13:29 PM
This is soooo late, but I had to reply to this.
First of all, I have to say that i can't 100% be sure that Elvis is dead. I remember looking into him after I started thinking about MJ hoaxing his death and the stuff I found made me think otherwise. I should start looking into Elvis as well...
Anyways, I remember an interview (or was it an article?) Lisa Marie did and in it she said that Michael used to ask her a lot of questions about her Fathers death. He seemed to be very interested in it and when she asked him why he said he thinks he's gonna die the way he did. Now, what if he didn't mean with a drug overdose? What if he meant like a hoax death?
Plus, there are so many similarities between Elvis's death and MJ's. But yeah...I think i'll start looking into the death of elvis. I'm suddenly interested in seeing what I find >:]
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: ILOVEMJ on February 15, 2010, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
imagine if they both came back together...
OHHH MY GOD ID BE TOTALLY MIND FUCKE BUT IT WOULD BE THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: SherLynn224 on February 16, 2010, 09:34:41 PM
It would be a great thing if they both came back together. My mom is an Elvis fan and me a Michael Jackson fan. We both would have our dreams come true. She is 71 and loves going to http://www.elviscommunity.com (http://www.elviscommunity.com) to keep in touch with everything with Elvis.  :D
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: onemoretime on February 17, 2010, 04:49:39 PM
Is there a photo of Rick Baker, not only from 1993, but a newer one to compare hatman to him?
Judging from his appearance from 1993 I don't see the resemblance to hatman.
So I am still more inclined to think hatman could well be our Elvis.

Quote
I am going to attach a youtube video that I have made, even before the death hoax forum started........I made it to show alot of similarities of the two kings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk)

I like your way of thinking very much and appreciate your work.
Elvis and Michael can't be separated in the hoax story. That is my strong opinion, and LMP
plays an important role. She "knows".
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 18, 2010, 07:57:52 AM
onemoretime, Thank you for an amazing collection of photos. The parallels between MJ and Elvis Presley are there for all to see. Throughout the years, do you think some of MJ's photos were intentionally posed to mirror EP? I didn't realize the full extent of the similarities. It really is uncanny. I didn't know MJ was as influenced by EP as those pictures show. Even some of the outfits/belts MJ wore are inspired by EP. Those photos you chose to illustrate the similarities really did the job. Regarding Rick Baker, do you mean Hatman at the memorial or burial because some people think they were two different individuals. Maybe EP was one of the Hatmen. What a fun day out that would have been! As for Lisa Marie Presley I don't know too much about that side of things. I did see a short clip of LMP on Larry King, "yes that's his name Larry King" longtime interviewer and friend. LMP didn't seem comfortable as one may understand, in answering particular questions regarding the death of her father.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: onemoretime on February 18, 2010, 06:31:25 PM
mjjveritas, no I am not the one who made the video with the amazing collection of photos. They are from the member 2good2btrue who started the thread and here is what she wrote (page 2, december 26)
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Thankyou for all your insights and thoughts.  We all know for a fact that MJ married LiseMarie!!!!!!!  If her father was still alive, don't you think Lisa would of told MJ that?  Wouldn't she have introduced her father to him at some point of their marriage???  Maybe they talked for hours as a father-in-law to son inlaw stuff. Who knows.  What else could they have talked about?  This could of started the idea of a hoax for MJ.  But I agree, he had been planning it for only about a year now.  Something so elaborate couldn't be spontaneuos.  Not suggesting Elvis helped him, but certainly could have given him many ideas.    "ELVIS HAS NO REASON TO COME BACK AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL" (sorry guys)  But he has to get around doesn't he?  Why not show up at his ex son-in-laws funeral and memorial.  The blonde could have been his girlfriend???????
*Alot of fans and celebraties wore one glove as a gesture to MJ.  Even Liz Taylor was wearing a black glove on her left hand at the funeral. The old man was wearing a black glove on his right hand etc......
I am going to attach a youtube video that I have made, even before the death hoax forum started........I made it to show alot of similarities of the two kings.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkK6aslhUk)
When I quoted her text, I unfortunately forgot to insert her name, therefore the misunderstanding.
So the praise goes all to her.
But I too think it is really amazing to see how much of Elvis we can detect in Michael.
I've never heard of a Rick Baker, before he was mentioned here. so I can't say anything about him. But until now I still think "hatman" No I from the memorial resembles "mystery hatman Elvis" quite a lot.
LMP indeed seemed rather umcomfortable when being asked a particular question by Larry King about her mental connection to her father. She avoided the answer and Larry answered they were not in court, so she needn't do it.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: mjjveritas on February 18, 2010, 06:52:11 PM
onemoretime, That's ok, thanks for clarifying. It's all very interesting. As another poster said imagine if the two kings came back together, what a thought!  :shock:  :o
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: I Believe in LOVE on February 20, 2010, 11:19:31 PM
Just wanted to share that I have thought that Elvis might be in on this whole thing one way or another.  I LOVE Elvis and ALL his songs and I also LOVE Michael and all his songs, so here is a dedication to you, MICHAEL, from ME, sung by ELVIS!  I love all you guys...God Bless and keep up the good work...IBIL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4PZOhmXQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC4PZOhmXQA)

PS:  I AM a girl!!!   I LOVE YOU, SWEETIE
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS ELVIS PRESLEY.
Post by: Boreas on February 20, 2010, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
imagine if they both came back together...
I would have to say that that would be sooooo f*$%ed up....that is would be so awesome.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: I Believe in LOVE on February 20, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
If Elvis and Michael both show up together...the world would certainly STOP and take a breath before ALL the PEOPLE who DO have LOVE in THEIR hearts started to ACTUALLY make this WORLD  a true UTOPIA with GOD and JESUS, of course, and ALL THE ONES THAT WANT TO HATE, RAPE, ABUSE, KILL, MOLEST, ETC, ETC , ETC, WOULD JUST GO TO HELL!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: katson45 on April 13, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
AAhhhhh, from your lips to God's ear...!!
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: FITA on May 28, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
I mentioned the hoax theory to my mom; and she said that people said the same thing about Elvis.  That he had faked his death.  My roommate says that Elvis probably still is alive.  She even said that she heard rumors that Hitler faked his death and went into hiding (grimace).  Of course, by now, Hitler is dead (old age, at least).  But perhaps Elvis is still alive; and perhaps Michael is counting on people assuming the hoax theory is nonsense and that he is no longer with us.  Michael is probably counting on many people to think the hoax is impossible.  But he will come back.

I found an interesting Website:
http://derekclontz.com/2009/07/07/micha ... ill-alive/ (http://derekclontz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-death-hoax-diary-found-final-proofm-hes-still-alive/)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 01, 2010, 07:19:09 PM
Imagine Elvis and MJ on stage together....this is what it would sound like.


http://www.youtube.com/user/elvisfantas ... dMs0qnkCPk (http://www.youtube.com/user/elvisfantasay2010#p/u/39/VdMs0qnkCPk)

http://www.youtube.com/user/elvisfantas ... 5x3S51g52o (http://www.youtube.com/user/elvisfantasay2010#p/u/67/L5x3S51g52o)
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: FITA on June 01, 2010, 11:27:53 PM
Regarding the video just above, that is great!  I love it!  Yes, that is probably what it would be like if Michael and Elvis performed together!  :)  :D
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: FITA on June 01, 2010, 11:30:06 PM
The first two of the three videos in the first post are very convincing, and they show similarities between what happened with Elvis and what happened with Michael.  Maybe they will both come back together.  That would be great!  I would love to meet both of them.
Title: Re: THE MYSTERY MAN IN THE FEDORA HAT...IS IT ELVIS PRESLEY?
Post by: FITA on June 02, 2010, 12:09:41 AM
Quote from: "I Believe in LOVE"
If Elvis and Michael both show up together...the world would certainly STOP and take a breath before ALL the PEOPLE who DO have LOVE in THEIR hearts started to ACTUALLY make this WORLD  a true UTOPIA with GOD and JESUS, of course, and ALL THE ONES THAT WANT TO HATE, RAPE, ABUSE, KILL, MOLEST, ETC, ETC , ETC, WOULD JUST GO TO HELL!

I agree.  Those who don't have love in their hearts and who go around hurting themselves and others--May God help them.  I have heard that hurting people hurt people.  Maybe the people do the hurting need to find healing.  But for those who don't desire healing enough--for those who are just plain evil--even heaven would be hell.  God, in His great mercy for everyone, will not allow people into heaven who are bent on evil.
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