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Title: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on December 03, 2011, 11:01:23 AM
Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ6DPGFy4U&feature=share[/youtube]

Quote from the video-makers' comments - AlohaElvis2012:
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Operation Fountain Pen was the FBI case involving Vernon & Elvis Presley VS "The Fraternity". Mafia kingpins who stole Elvis' Jetstar aircraft. The con men were brought to justice...but Elvis had to disappear in the process. Operation Fountain Pen was not declassified by the FBI until 1985...8 yrs after his death. Why are about 600 pages still classified "top security" with 74 pages for "national security" reasons? What are we prohibited to know about Elvis?
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: MichaelsAngel on December 03, 2011, 11:34:59 AM
Where is this from?

Was that a recent audio or recorded before he supposedly died?
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 03, 2011, 11:47:45 AM
Thank you for sharing this - this is all so interesting to me, someone who always believed that Elvis died in 1977. Is that him speaking? It sure does sound like an older Elvis.

Blessings to you.
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on December 03, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
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Where is this from?
Was that a recent audio or recorded before he supposedly died?

The youtube user who posted this video, also posted these other 3 videos called "The Elvis Tape"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ogn-ZdHbBU[/youtube]

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtVLNt3Djzo&feature=related
part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmzJavsMj8&feature=related

He/She wrote this:
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The incredible Elvis mystery tape that started it all for me in 1988. This tape was first released with the book "Is Elvis Alive?" by Gail Brewer-Giorgio. Elvis called a woman named Ellen Foster "Love" because she strongly resembled his deceased mother. The theory is that Elvis became friends with Ellen because she reminded him of his mother, Gladys Love. A few days before Elvis "died", he called Ellen and told her not to worry about him not going on his next tour. She was totally confused. The conversation on August 14, 1977 went like this:

Elvis: You know today, today my Mama has been dead for 19 years. 19 long years. [Elvis starts to weep]

Ellen: Calm down, Elvis. Calm down. Your mother's probably watching you right now. She wouldn't want you to cry.

Elvis: I can't help it. I sometimes wonder if I caused her death.

Ellen: No, you didn't Elvis. Your mother had a bad heart. She was overweight.

Elvis: Yeah she was...she was drinking alot because of me.

Ellen: Don't blame yourself for that Elvis. Don't carry that cross.

Elvis: I can't help it. I started making so much money. I started showering her with gifts, diamond rings. Cars. Cadillacs. I thought I was doing right for her, but she couldn't handle it. She still hung the wash outside, fed the chickens outside. We're livin' on 13 acres and my mom is chasing chickens around the backyard. I never should have taken her away from her roots. I never should have. It wasn't fair to her. She felt compelled to impress me...trying to lose weight. And when she had a tough time with that, she started to drink. She became depressed and it was all my fault. It was all my fault, so Mama, please forgive me.

Ellen: Elvis, don't go blaming yourself. Don't go blaming yourself. You didn't do anything wrong. Every boy wishes that he could rise to fame and then provide for his parents. There's nothing wrong in that, Elvis. What was meant to be, was, and that's all. So Elvis, are you getting excited about your next tour? It's just 2 days away. Aw, I'd love to see ya.

Elvis: [still sniffling] Yeah, that's why I called you. We're
taking in confidence. We always do. You're just like my mother to me. I shouldn't even say that...I trust you so much.

Ellen: Aw, Elvis. I love you like you were my son. You know that. What is it, Elvis?

Elvis: I...I'm not going on that tour, Ellen. I'm not going on that tour.

Ellen: You cancelled it, Elvis? What's the matter? Don't you feel good?

Elvis: I think I never felt better.

Ellen: Well, why'd ya cancel it, Elvis?

Elvis: I didn't cancel it, Love.

Ellen: Elvis, maybe I didn't understand you. You're not going on the tour but you didn't cancel the tour? Is that what you just said?

Elvis: That's right, Love. I'm not going on the tour, and I haven't canceled it.

Ellen: Well, when are you canceling it?

Elvis: I'm not.

Ellen: I don't understand.

Elvis: Listen to me, Love. Listen to me real close. You're not to tell a soul.

Ellen: I won't tell anybody anything.

Elvis: I'm not going on the last tour and I'm not going to cancel it. Don't ask me any more questions, just remember one thing.

Ellen: What's that, Elvis?

Elvis: I'll, I'll always...I'll always be here. I'll always be here. Don't believe what you read. Do you understand, Love?

Ellen: Elvis, this sounds scary.

Elvis: Naw...it's not.

Ellen: When Elvis?

Elvis: Oh, I don't know. But one day I'll give you a call and let you know. I've got your number. I'll always have it with me. I love you, Love. Goodbye.

Ellen: Goodbye, Elvis.

Elvis did contact her after his death, and this mystery tape may have been recorded by the late Ellen Foster...with her voice cut from the tape.

from the book "The Elvis Files-Was His Death Faked?" 1990

Now... what I think about this voice.... it definitely sounds like Elvis, but I can't know for sure whether it's him or not...Who can ? with so many impersonators [voice-alikes; looks-alikes] around.... But on the other hand this can also be his cover up! if things go wrong, they can always say it was not him, but just an impersonator! ;)
And even though it's an impersonator, maybe it's part of the plan: so that the information gets to the public in a sort of a "protected" way... maybe because it's not yet the right time! That's why they leave the doubt: him? or just a double?
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: AnaMarcia on December 03, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
This is BS!

I don't believe in Elvis alive!

And I hate when the peoples compare the death's Elvis to Michael!

Sorry, but I think different!
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on December 03, 2011, 12:48:40 PM
I have no doubt that Elvis faked his death to save his life and his family, with the help of FBI.
I only have doubts about whether he will ever come back or not... I still hope for a Double-BAM in 2012, though.
I truly hope we will learn the whole truth some day!! I think the best solution is to make pressures on the important media channels to make the subject public and force the authorities to give us an answer!
But I guess this won't happen until all the danger upon Elvis' life disappears... meaning the people who wanted him dead for a reason or another... or maybe it's the government rule that opposes to a person from the Witness protection program to ever return to his original identity in the public!
I think these things are more complicated than anyone can ever imagine!
Regardless of all that ^^ I think, I know, I believe, I feel that Elvis is still alive!
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on December 03, 2011, 01:50:27 PM
Thank you so much for posting this information.. I love Elvis as much as I love Michael.. they are my favorites kings.. Now the only thing I have to say, is Elvis voice reminds me of the dobbed voice of Michael we heard in the trial. Very slow slurping his words. I wonder why? I know he is old, he is the same age as my mom and my mom does not sound old when she speaks. This is only my observation. blessings.
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on January 01, 2012, 08:23:59 PM
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6851/elviswaxdummy.jpg)

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5485/elviswaxdummy002.jpg)
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: suspicious mind on January 01, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
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(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6851/elviswaxdummy.jpg)

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i would have to wonder if the tabloids couldn't pull a stunt like this ( the coffin pic) just to sell their rags. also don't know that parker wouldn't go along with it. seems like he as with frank deleo(sp) was one of those charactors of which their are thoughts on both sides of the fence as to whether or not he had elvis best intrest at heart or not.
just a thought
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: Tink on January 02, 2012, 01:39:28 AM
I honestly was not aware of any of this, when I came up with my wax dummy idea, as part of my theory! OMG!
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 02, 2012, 03:30:04 AM
Oh no, this user deleted the video! Can't watch it!
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on January 04, 2012, 07:19:36 PM
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Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on January 28, 2012, 07:02:14 AM
source of this photo-montage: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elvis-Presley-is-alive/128076137273883

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7889/25149514552566552893012.jpg)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQyF2YZFH0o&context=C322ff10ADOEgsToPDskJmkW_ZZeFjowbeRF5NvrKb[/youtube]

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in this Video Elvis tells his Fans he is a Government Agent and they Laugh because they think he is Joking, But elvis says " Im an eighth degree black belt in Karate I'm a Narcotics Coverment agent" then the audience laugh thinking it's a Joke then Elvis say's " I am Swwear to God"
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on March 10, 2012, 07:07:53 AM
I have modified the TITLE of this THREAD from:

Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program

to

MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)


It's because there is lots of evidence that indicates one of the MAIN reasons why both Elvis and Michael faked their deaths to save their lives and protect their families too !!
In both MJ & Elvis case, we've seen FBI files , mysteriously released to the media for one purpose or another! files that revealed how they both had received many death threats before their "deaths"

I will try to gather in this thread as much info as possible, pls don't hesitate to add your findings too!!

Here are some videos.... very disturbing! about what Michael had been through...
I am sure most of you have already heard those tapes where Michael literally says he's afraid for his life!

I think it's very important to learn about any detail on this subject, because this helps understand why they did it or how they did it (with some government help!), but we can also find out why they can or cannot come back sooner or later!! ?

----> Are we even sure whether Elvis and Michael entered or did not  enter a Witness Protection Program?? 

----> To what extent was the FBI or any other secret government agency involved in the orchestration of their death hoax?

----> In what way does this government involvement affect their possibility to return or not?



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgNW6LUUKpQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x11MTY2FeMU&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=8&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]

FBI FILES -PROOF THAT MICHAEL JACKSON
RECEIVED DEATH THREATS!


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OJai_jMf38&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=7&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 10, 2012, 11:32:14 AM
Wonderful timing loll  TigerBelieve posted today a video on this exact subject!!

FBI law for an escapism which protects
Michael Jackson against any lawsuits


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mooKbDzzBoM&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]


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Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
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SOURCE: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1628762/michael-jacksons-fbi-files-reveal-death-threats.jhtml

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SOURCE: http://www.okmagazine.com/news/stalker-targeted-michael-jackson-death-threat
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
Dr. Susan ETOK ~ Witness in Michael Jackson Investigation
Receiving Death Threats


watch VIDEO here: http://www.zimbio.com/watch/BVwL6CWepwe/Witness+Michael+Jackson+Investigation+Receiving/Susan+Etok

ET was at the Los Angeles police station moments before Dr. Susan Etok arrived for questioning in related to the death investigation of Michael Jackson.
Dr. Etok claims that the King of Pop asked her to supply him with a number of drugs, including Demerol and Diprivan, but she refused.
"They just want to basically get a background picture as to what kind of happened to Michael and everybody else that was involved," the doctor says of her trip to the police station.
Dr. Etok said she received death threats Tuesday night, telling her not to come and talk to the police.
 "I'm not really taking them seriously," she says of the threats. (ETonline.com)



FBI Files on Tupac Shakur Murder Show He Received Death Threats From Jewish Gang - http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/115410-FBI-Files-on-Tupac-Shakur-Murder-Show-He-Received-Death-Threats-From-Jewish-Gang
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 02:33:15 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3derrTzlfuw[/youtube]

VIDEO DESCRIPTION
[....]

- Belongings of both were auctioned against their will after their deaths.
- In both cases money and jewelery were missing from their homes after their deaths.

- Both had received death threats and were extorted.

- Both had foreign managers at the time of their death.
- Elvis' tour manager Joe Esposito has been Michael Jackson's road manager for a short time after Elvis' death.
- John Branca was an attorney for the Elvis Presley Estate, and is an administrator of the Michael Jackson Estate.
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
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"Books on tape"?  Finances
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 03:33:19 PM
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"Books on tape"?  Finances
You're right it's a possible meaning for Front's words... who knows!


It is clear they were BOTH hunted for their money!! for their fortunes!

For their Music-CATALOGUES ------> "Books on tape" ???
Catalogue ---> Book?
Music (albums) ----> Tapes ?



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Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 04:50:21 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ahCQgltoD0[/youtube]

Uploaded by millionaireinachair on Jun 27, 2009

VIDEO DESCRIPTION: It's sad that such a great talent has passed us by. Fortunately, the financial bleeding has stopped and hopefully now his kids will be left with something in the future. Please visit: http://www.millionaireinachair.com



Is Jackson Worth More Dead Than Alive?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500202_162-5139211.html
By CBSNews on January 8, 2011 11:33 AM


^^ Not only this article mentions ELVIS, but
the article is posted on Elvis' birthday!! hummm . . .
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Reflexion/U_THIN%7E1.GIF)


Before he died, Michael Jackson claimed to have a net worth of $236 million. He also had a great deal of debt, but a recent surge in record sales is offering a glimpse of a potential financial windfall in waiting.
Despite the debt, a court filing estimates that his estate will be worth more than $500 million. His assets are destined for a private trust.

Jackson owned a 50% percent stake in the massive Sony-ATV Music Publishing Catalog, which includes music by the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond, Lady Gaga and the Jonas Brothers.

In life, Jackson was the best-selling artist of all time. And in the days following his death, he's topped the charts once again.
"It's unprecendented. The furor for his music online; in stores, where they literally can't keep Michael Jackson products on the shelves," Billboard magazine's Bill Werde observed.
Fans have downloaded over 2.6 million Jackson songs in the past week-and-a-half alone.

One option for Jackson's family could be to turn the Neverland Ranch into a major tourist destination. Neverland, Jackson's one-time sprawling estate and private theme park, could be a place of pilgrimage - and a cash cow in years to come.

The home of another late superstar, Elvis, is a Mecca for fans. Some 600,000 visit Graceland each year.
Though he died more than 30 years ago, Elvis' empire of music and memorabilia continues to generate wealth. Forbes cited earnings of $52 million last year, outselling even Madonna, who earned just $40 million.
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 05:24:43 PM
Do stars like MJ and Whitney become worth more dead than alive to handlers?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1785317/pg1
"Just think it over. MJ was supposedly financially strapped for years. Whitney is reported to have squandered her fortune. They say she leaned heavily on Clive Davis for several mortgages to keep her homes. And the record execs know full well their music will sell huge when they die. Are they trying to re coup their investments or what? Staging these over doses?"



Some Celebrities Are Worth Much More Dead Than Alive
Apr 7, 2010    David Porter
 http://david-porter.suite101.com/some-celebrities-are-worth-much-more-dead-than-alive-a222501#ixzz1oqeZZNuW
Forbes' Magazine publishes an annual list of the top earners among dead celebrities, who last year grossed $886m. Yves St Laurent came first, at $350m.

1. Yves St Laurent 'earned' the most of the dead celebrities last year, mainly through the sale of valuable paintings),
2. and he beat Michael Jackson,
3. Elvis Presley ($52m),
4. Kurt Cobain ($50m)
5. and Andy Warhol ($9m).
However, it is perhaps Jackson who has the most potential to go on year after year into the future, his estate earning millions of dollars. It made nearly $100m in the first 9 months after his death.

Kings of Pop Music

Cynics would describe death as a smart career move for the already rich and famous, especially those who have a cloud of controversy over their lives, or deaths, or both.
Rumour still persists in the more extreme reaches of conspiracy theory, that neither Michael Jackson nor Elvis Presley is actually dead, but their demises were part of elaborate hoaxes to reverse the terminal decline their careers had entered, allowing them to escape lifestyles that had become intolerable.

Both were active in show-business when they died. Presley was still laying down songs and Jackson was rehearsing for an unbelievable 50 concerts in London when he died. Immediately, footage of the rehearsals for This Is It was released to a public eager to buy some small part of the 50-year-old man, attempting to recreate the physical sparkle of his earlier success.

When Elvis Presley died in August 1977, he is reported to have held around $5 million in his bank.
By 2004, Forbes said he was worth at least $45 million and it is still rising.

- John Lennon took $9m last year;
- Theodore Geisel,(who created Dr Seuss) $12m;
- Albert Einstein, $18m; Heath Ledger, $20m;
- Aaron Spelling, $15m
- and Marilyn Monroe and Steve McQueen secured $6m apiece.

Jimi Hendrix
Another superstar who died in mysterious drug-related circumstances was electric guitar maestro, Jimi Hendrix.
He was 27 and had established himself as a music business force on both sides of the Atlantic on the back of several single hits and three albums. However, since then, more than 40 albums have been released, with apparently more to follow.

The technique is not unique to Hendrix' work. Sometimes using recordings that were rejected in the studio immediately they were cut, other times by digitally enhancing bad or illegally recorded live gigs, plus what must be a deal of contractual negotiations, they allow older fans to maintain collections of complete catalogues.
This new material also speaks to younger generations, in Hendrix' case, more tuned to synths and electronically-treated sound than raw, rock ‘n’ roll guitar or the psychedelic 60s.
[ . . . . ]
Read the rest here:  http://david-porter.suite101.com/some-celebrities-are-worth-much-more-dead-than-alive-a222501#ixzz1oqerFsnp



Jackson worth more dead than alive: lawyer

SEE VIDEO ----> http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20090707/jackson_estate_090707/
CTV.ca News Staff - Tue. Jul. 7 2009 3:47 PM ET

Michael Jackson is worth more dead than alive, says one business and entertainment lawyer.
Jackson, who died last month, is being remembered Tuesday at a massive memorial service in Los Angeles.
But once the stars, politicians and legions of adoring fans go home and move on with their lives in the weeks to come, an epic battle is expected to break out over the rights to Jackson's debt-laden estate

Toronto lawyer Eb Reinbergs said Jackson's assets far outweigh his debts[/color] and there should be plenty of money to pay off his many creditors.

"Michael Jackson had music in a vault locked away. He has always over-recorded for every album that he has produced, meaning of the 12 or 13 songs that were on the album there were another 12 or 13 that didn't make it, and there's nothing to say that that music is less viable than the music that was actually put out,"[/i] Reinbergs told CTV News Channel.
"There's a lot of music to come out, there's a lot of usage of his image and likeness for years to come. There will be books, there will be movies. This thing is going to blow up and there will be more money than anyone ever could have imagined."

Reinbergs said the biggest drain on Jackson's assets was his own spending habits. Now that he is gone, the estate itself is in better shape.
He said Jackson's assets will generate royalties for decades to come.
"With Michael, may he rest in peace, no longer spending that money, the estate can benefit from the increase in the value of the assets over time."

Jackson's 2002 will names Lawyer John Branca and music executive John McClain as the executors of his estate, and a judge appointed them to the administrative role on Monday, over his mother Katherine Jackson's objections.
They will have carriage of the estate until Aug. 3, when another hearing will be held. Jackson's lawyers want her to serve as a co-administrator with Branca and McClain. Reinbergs said it will be a tough case to make to a judge and she will have to "come up with some pretty convincing arguments" during the Aug. 3 hearing to prove they are not capable of administering the estate without her help.

"These are 2 individuals that are very sophisticated. One is an industry executive in the music industry and the second has been his lawyer for a long time. She's really going to have to come up with some insurmountable evidence."

Branca and McClain's first responsibilities will be to come up with a plan to address the creditors of the estate -- those Jackson owed money to, Reinbergs said. He said they will likely form a team of advisors to help them tackle the huge task.

"As we all know these creditors have been lining up one by one and they are waiting. Now the executors have some time to present a plan to the court and all payments will have to be approved by the judge and by the court."



'My son feared people wanted him dead':
Michael Jackson's mother opens up on anniversary of pop star's death

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1289441/Michael-Jacksons-mother-Katherine-My-son-feared-people-wanted-dead.html#ixzz1oqjcBYAM

"On the one year anniversary of Michael Jackson’s death, his mother Katherine Jackson has revealed the pop star feared people were trying to kill him.
‘[Michael] told me several times that he felt that people wanted him gone, wanted him dead,' Katherine said in an interview with America's Dateline NBC set to air Friday night.
[....]"
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 11, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
OK, so here's my try to relate or co-relate a little bit the information from the first 2 signs with the information we've been receiving in the past 2-3 years...
it's just my interpretation of things that seemed more or less evident in a way or another... maybe I'm totally wrong! i just want to share this with you, see if other better ideas come out of this.
So I did this based on the thought that everything presented in the SIGNS , everything Bible related is meant as an allegory/metaphor, double meaning to the HOAX in itself. I also thought of Front's message as subtle clues to this, meant to help us 'decipher" easier the SIGNS....
I hope I could make some sense ... it's not very clear to me either! loll


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SIGN #2: FURNITURE REPRESENTS FESTIVALS - http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=72.0

1. FURNITURE
- Belongings of both Elvis & MJ were auctioned against their will after their deaths.
- In both cases money and jewelery were missing from their homes after their deaths.

- READ: Michael Jackson's Neverland Garden Statuary & Outdoor Furniture: It Could Have Been Yours
http://poolandpatio.about.com/b/2009/04/19/michael-jacksons-neverland-garden-statuary-outdoor-furniture-it-could-have-been-yours.htm
- "Representatives of Jackson's production company last month filed suit at a Los Angeles court to stop the auction, claiming that certain items, including a carousel horse with an inscription from Hollywood film star Elizabeth Taylor, are irreplaceable and that Jackson had not signed the auction contract. (COVENANT??)
^^ From SIGN 2: "Sanctuary Basics. We should start with a basic understand of the sanctuary system—including the three divisions (the court, and the 2 apartments in the tabernacle), the six pieces of furniture (listed already), and the six yearly festivals (listed already).

2. MJ's Secret VAULT ( Ark of Covenant !??)

- READ: Michael Jackson Secret Vault - http://www.squidoo.com/michael-jackson-fan-club
Write Tribute Poem/Lyrics for Michael Jacksons mother Katherine, and Win a Free Copy of The Katherine Jackson Story Book
- READ: Michael Jackson MICHAEL JACKSON'S SECRET VAULT "Prince and PARIS say it isnt DADDY" - http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/996849
"Paris and Prince Jackson were at the session and believe some of the tracks on the album are fakes — not Michael's voice."
'Micheal's only daughter, Paris, was adamant about writing a letter insisting that she does not believe the voice on the tape to be her father's and when questioned about the validity responded,
“Daddy sang to us every day. We know his voice, he would sing to wake us up every morning…”"

Prince, Paris, Blanket &Michael's Mom, are the angels that protect his ARK (Vault) while he's away!
They guide us, by telling us which is fake or true: songs ... doubles... impersonators....

3. 3. The throne ( MJ's fortune, MJ's assets and Music catalogue? Neverland - his "sanctuary"?)

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"Books on tape"?  Finances
You're right it's a possible meaning for Front's words... who knows!

It is clear they were BOTH hunted for their money!! for their fortunes!

For their Music-CATALOGUES ------> "Books on tape" ???
Catalogue ---> Book?
Music (albums) ----> Tapes ?


From SIGN 2: "The Sanctuary Is Worth a Million Words" - kind of reminded me of the many headlines I posted above ^^
 Michael's Estate Worth Millions of $ !!
or
 Michael is Worth More dead than Alive!!

From SIGN 1: "The angels were not “beaten out of one piece” on the top of the mercy seat; no, the two angels were connected on the ends of the mercy seat, the two sides of the ark (right side and left side). A study of the Hebrew word used here (#7098, “end”) makes this even clearer; it’s not referring to the angels being somewhere midway on the top of the throne, they are connected at the furthest ends of the mercy seat. And this was designed to represent God’s throne in heaven, where the angels are not allowed to be on top of His throne. "

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An undated handout photo provided by Juliens Auctions on 14 March 2010 shows the original oil study on board for the work commissioned by Michael Jackson titled 'Prince, The Boy King.' by US artist David Nordahl. The piece of memorabilia will be part of Julien's three-day 'Music Icons' auction, due to take place at Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, USA, on 25 June 2010. EPA/SHAAN KOKIN / JULIENS AUCTIONS / HO EDITORIAL USE ONLY/NO SALES - http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/features/article_1540942.php/In-Pictures-Michael-Jackson-Memorabilia-Auction

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Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: Dontwalkaway on March 11, 2012, 06:58:31 PM
SimPattyk,

Cute pictures of the kids and Michael.  I'm not sure I understand what the message is ?  Maybe that Prince will inherit the throne ??
IDK,  I'll keep watchin !



 
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: curls on March 12, 2012, 02:21:42 AM
Well, MJ did always study the greats and then build on and put his own spin on what he learnt from them .... you could argue that God is the greatest of 'the greats', so why not?!
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: Tink on March 12, 2012, 12:46:20 PM
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SimPattyk,

Cute pictures of the kids and Michael.  I'm not sure I understand what the message is ?  Maybe that Prince will inherit the throne ??
IDK,  I'll keep watchin !



 

You do realize, that statement of yours didn't make any sense, right? "KoP" was something earned. You can't give it away, like Nobility titles.
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 12, 2012, 02:11:04 PM
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SimPattyk,
Cute pictures of the kids and Michael.  I'm not sure I understand what the message is ?  Maybe that Prince will inherit the throne ?? IDK,  I'll keep watchin !
Well I can't possibly know the reasons why Michael commissioned that painting to be done that way...I thought about possible reasons, though:

1. Michael, the proud father, saw his first little boy as a Prince-heir to his Neverland kingdom, so he wanted to express that love and pride in a painting that his son would be able to see when he grows older.

2. Michael commissioned that painting with the intent of leaving some hoax clues?

3. It was a direct message to all those leeches (who hunted him and his fortune and were threatening his life), like he was telling them: see nobody gets a hold on to my belongings , but my son, my children, my family! The Throne being  a symbol of everything material and of value that Michael owns, including his SECRET VAULT (Ark of Covenant??)


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Well, MJ did always study the greats and then build on and put his own spin on what he learnt from them .... you could argue that God is the greatest of 'the greats', so why not?!
YES!! That's exactly my point. Thank you for sharing your thought, it's good to know when other people think the same or if they can come up with other ideas or their own perspective of these things...


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SimPattyk,
Cute pictures of the kids and Michael.  I'm not sure I understand what the message is ?  Maybe that Prince will inherit the throne ?? IDK,  I'll keep watchin !
You do realize, that statement of yours didn't make any sense, right? "KoP" was something earned. You can't give it away, like Nobility titles.
You do realize, that statement of yours was incredibly rude, right?
It's not the first time you patronize other users that you don't agree with. Others have told you that too!
I just hope this time you won't say again that you were just joking ...  :roll:
And I'd appreciate it very much if you start to respect people more, even if you think their opinions/statements are inferior to yours!! Thank you in advance!!
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on March 22, 2012, 05:55:11 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf4DI3opNoc&feature=related[/youtube]

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q03f1sadIow&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=2&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on April 01, 2012, 02:45:49 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WSp8MN_d-8&feature=channel
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-BMYXNILiU&feature=channel&noredirect=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on April 04, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkW5-xr9sHo&feature=my_favorites&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUoA4k9XTnE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXRt0VNW6O0&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LeSt10EhtE&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: MJ & Elvis - Death Threats - FBI files (Witness Protection Program?)
Post by: SimPattyK on April 04, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
"Why did Michael hoax his death? Was there a conspiracy?
 What do the music industry and the media have to do with it?


Murray & The Federal Agents I


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GYgN5--T2A&feature=relmfu[/youtube]


Murray & The Federal Agents II 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gfyv4fq138&feature=my_favorites&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&noredirect=1[/youtube]


Murray & The Federal Agents III

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLdAopf_RE&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
Title: Re: Elvis reveals FBI case that led to Witness Protection Program
Post by: SimPattyK on April 06, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
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Some more bizarre stuff about the coffin pic,

montages created by the FB page "Elvis Presley is alive"

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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elvis-Presley-is-alive/128076137273883

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