Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
General Michael Jackson Forum => Random MJ Talk => Topic started by: conclusivemj on November 12, 2011, 03:16:52 PM
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Latoya is unavoidably telling us Michael has faked his death to get back at an enemy or enemies who are a danger to his life as she has told us in late October to watch The Illusionist (which that is the basic plot device in the movie: a staged death to get back an evildoer by way of Illusion). The Jacksons have always said that Conrad Murray was a fall guy. Jermaine said This is Not It. One of the This Is It dancers (Shannon) sent a blessing to Michael through his official Twitter on June 25th 2009 after Michael had been pronounced dead that said "God Bless You" Right back at you Michael". Jodi Gomes said on her Twitter a year ago "jodigomes (twitter) @JaymeM13 yes, very bad people involved & he is the master". I think that big clues like The Illusionist, the 32 stars on the California seal instead of 31 and no Conrad mugshot are indications Michael is alive and November 29th I feel is BAM Day! Why November 29th? Because that's when the supposed sentence takes place and if this is a hoax, there's no need to sentence someone who is in something unless Conrad is the one being setup. Either way the 29th is the day I feel the hoax will end.
moonwalk_/
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or, maybe Murray will be a free man, or recive house arrest. (not real though).
Because La Toya said she wouldnt stop until all have been brought to justice. (not her exact words)
Hmm, I didn't think of the fact that there is no mug shot /bravo/ they are usually so fast in spreading that out! :shock:
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No mugshot is one of 3 keys that I've discovered that point to a hoax or as I call it a setup. The other keys being the unmarked crypt that's actually a solid block of marble that's been there since the 1950s and was a showcase in the 50s Forest Lawn brochure as merely a decoration under the windows of ascension and the other key being the 32 stars on the seal which I feel the 32nd star stands for Michael!
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Well lets hope your right and it will be the biggest 'BAM' on 29th November cos there isnt a person on this planet who could give me a better birthday present on that day!! Id really have a good reason to cellibrate my brithday this year ;D
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I think it will be too soon for the BAM, it will be in 2012 for sure. My theory is, yes they will sentence Murray, a light sentence, he will do house arrest, this I have been saying for the past months. So by doing the house arrest, he is not in jail, Michael will not let a innocent man go to jail..
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I don't think we should rely on any obvious dates - each such date only
makes impatient ones go: "Boo hoo! Not happened, I'm out!" and that's all.
I agree with all4loveandbelieve, it's probably too early to show up
in public. We have no idea what the real plan is.
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
the clip in your signature.did you watch the trailer? it is now marked private. also the documentary people don't list the documentary any longer. what did you think of it if you saw it?
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I think it will be too soon for the BAM, it will be in 2012 for sure. My theory is, yes they will sentence Murray, a light sentence, he will do house arrest, this I have been saying for the past months. So by doing the house arrest, he is not in jail, Michael will not let a innocent man go to jail..
I agree, november 29th seems too soon, and knowing michael the bam's not going to be the date that everyone expects, its going to be that little tiny detail that people either miss or take no notice of.
Its all for love guys :) <3
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29th of November is too soon imo. I believe that Murray will be going to "jail", not real jail for sure. Remember that there will be NO ONE who will see him in the prison, so why would they bother to put him in jail for real? And who knows, maybe we can see him jogging at the beach like TS says. :lol:
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Dec. 21, 2012 will likely be the day. Actually, by now, it seems like the most plausible scenario. Can't see another date
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I'm assuming that when you all say "it's too soon", you mean that it's too soon after the trial. Please jump in if I'm wrong about that.
I have been thinking about Bamsday, and sometimes it makes feel ecstatic, other times it makes feel worried. It would be such an amazing feeling to see Michael back, and to know that I won't be needing a strait jacket ( lolol/ ), but then it worries me. What if his "fans" turn on him? The ones who overlook the fact that he's back and complain about all the negative things that happened while he was gone. And the media? What are they going to do? Are they going to understand what Michael taught them and just report the news as it is? Will they suck up to him and say all nice things about him now that he's back when they previously labelled him weird? Or will they just attack him all over again? And how will I react? Print out transfers for the "told ya so" shirts? Start blaring MJ music in the street? Jump around with boundless energy, or just scream? Or will I attempt to keep it all inside and be humble about it, because everyone around me is a non-beLIEver? And the people around me, what will they think? Will they apologize? Will they ask me how I knew? Will they be stunned into silence? Or will they attack him again, focusing on the fact that he faked his death instead of just celebrating that he's alive? It's just so much to think about, and I try to keep it positive, keep it best-case-scenario. But I know that it may not go down like that. Because that's the way life works, the way this society works. But what I'm also thinking about is that minority of people who believe that CM is innocent, and someone else killed MJ. How are they going to react when Michael bams and Murray is in "jail"? Will they direct their anger towards Michael because he let an innocent man go to "jail"? Will Michael let that happen? Because, if I were him, and some people would be upset to some degree when I came back, I wouldn't want to add that minority to that group, because they might actually have a valid point for "hating". That's why I think Michael may just come back this year, before the sentencing. It's just so confusing, and I know what you guys are gonna say. "It's not meant to be simple," but what I would give for a straight answer.
Whew, glad I got that off my mind. Sorry guys, but I do have a bad habit of bottling up my feelings, and I'm just trying to break it. However, I would like to know why some of you think he's going to come back in 2012. Reasons or links to threads will be appreciated. I am sorry guys, this post is really long, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around this hoax.
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I'm assuming that when you all say "it's too soon", you mean that it's too soon after the trial. Please jump in if I'm wrong about that.
I have been thinking about Bamsday, and sometimes it makes feel ecstatic, other times it makes feel worried. It would be such an amazing feeling to see Michael back, and to know that I won't be needing a strait jacket ( lolol/ ), but then it worries me. What if his "fans" turn on him? The ones who overlook the fact that he's back and complain about all the negative things that happened while he was gone. And the media? What are they going to do? Are they going to understand what Michael taught them and just report the news as it is? Will they suck up to him and say all nice things about him now that he's back when they previously labelled him weird? Or will they just attack him all over again? And how will I react? Print out transfers for the "told ya so" shirts? Start blaring MJ music in the street? Jump around with boundless energy, or just scream? Or will I attempt to keep it all inside and be humble about it, because everyone around me is a non-beLIEver? And the people around me, what will they think? Will they apologize? Will they ask me how I knew? Will they be stunned into silence? Or will they attack him again, focusing on the fact that he faked his death instead of just celebrating that he's alive? It's just so much to think about, and I try to keep it positive, keep it best-case-scenario. But I know that it may not go down like that. Because that's the way life works, the way this society works. But what I'm also thinking about is that minority of people who believe that CM is innocent, and someone else killed MJ. How are they going to react when Michael bams and Murray is in "jail"? Will they direct their anger towards Michael because he let an innocent man go to "jail"? Will Michael let that happen? Because, if I were him, and some people would be upset to some degree when I came back, I wouldn't want to add that minority to that group, because they might actually have a valid point for "hating". That's why I think Michael may just come back this year, before the sentencing. It's just so confusing, and I know what you guys are gonna say. "It's not meant to be simple," but what I would give for a straight answer.
Whew, glad I got that off my mind. Sorry guys, but I do have a bad habit of bottling up my feelings, and I'm just trying to break it. However, I would like to know why some of you think he's going to come back in 2012. Reasons or links to threads will be appreciated. I am sorry guys, this post is really long, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around this hoax.
I'm glad you expressed your feelings, because I feel exactly the same way...The reason for this hoax has to be sooooooo huge, to the point that by faking his death, he may have saved many innocent peoples lives....
Otherwise he will be torn apart by everyone, not just the media.....
He will be better off really dead if the reasons aren't supported by higher authorities....and justified. God bless.
I think he will BAM via technology...eg. youtube, internet, live stream etc....
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I agree with beLIEving101. If he BAM's via internet, it will crash; but than again it most likely will anyway.
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It's wise to not get our hopes up. We'll know when it happens. It can happen tomorrow, next week, day of the sentence, next year, or years from now. We never know and when or if it does we'll be happy. But a big part of me wants it to happen this year that way I can say 'I told you so" to the people who think we're nuts. lolol/
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IMO he will not appear by internet, because it is not reliable,seems un real meaning people may speculate it is not him.. He will do a press conference,llive stream that is for sure.. Full of security and he will talk and explain what happened.
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typing/i agree with all4loveandbelieve, he will do a press conference with his family and will be live stream to all of the important news channels...that's the right way to do it...but before that it will appear on TMZ first of course :)
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So if MJ makes a live press conference will it be like V?, hijacking all the channels?...but what if our TV's switched off and the power plug is out, is the TV going to magically come on?...lol
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So if MJ makes a live press conference will it be like V?, hijacking all the channels?...but what if our TV's switched off and the power plug is out, is the TV going to magically come on?...lol
God I hope not, I'll go running out the door if my TV turns on by itself! afraid/ :lol:
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After 2 years November 29th isn't too soon mj_dance/ especially since the 2 year non-disclosure contract that the This Is It dancers signed is or has already expired. Also keep in mind it will be useless to give Conrad Murray a sentence since he's part of this reality show. So if November 29th isn't BAM Day then it is very very very close!
moonwalk_/
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I beLIEve the BAM is set for 2011. Mike had better haul tail before God Almighty trumps. The Man Upstairs waits for no one and two prior failed BAM attempts already is not charming.
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I don't care what happens to Murray, i still think he is a fall guy used by assassins, not by Michael. Nevertheless, I want Michael back ASAP. Can't wait another year. Michael PLEASE bow/ be back this year.
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
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So if MJ makes a live press conference will it be like V?, hijacking all the channels?...but what if our TV's switched off and the power plug is out, is the TV going to magically come on?...lol
God I hope not, I'll go running out the door if my TV turns on by itself! afraid/ :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It's wise to not get our hopes up. We'll know when it happens. It can happen tomorrow, next week, day of the sentence, next year, or years from now. We never know and when or if it does we'll be happy. But a big part of me wants it to happen this year that way I can say 'I told you so" to the people who think we're nuts. lolol/
i completly agree, and i cant wait for the day though so i can say to all the non-believers i told you so!!!
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I'm assuming that when you all say "it's too soon", you mean that it's too soon after the trial. Please jump in if I'm wrong about that.
I have been thinking about Bamsday, and sometimes it makes feel ecstatic, other times it makes feel worried. It would be such an amazing feeling to see Michael back, and to know that I won't be needing a strait jacket ( lolol/ ), but then it worries me. What if his "fans" turn on him? The ones who overlook the fact that he's back and complain about all the negative things that happened while he was gone. And the media? What are they going to do? Are they going to understand what Michael taught them and just report the news as it is? Will they suck up to him and say all nice things about him now that he's back when they previously labelled him weird? Or will they just attack him all over again? And how will I react? Print out transfers for the "told ya so" shirts? Start blaring MJ music in the street? Jump around with boundless energy, or just scream? Or will I attempt to keep it all inside and be humble about it, because everyone around me is a non-beLIEver? And the people around me, what will they think? Will they apologize? Will they ask me how I knew? Will they be stunned into silence? Or will they attack him again, focusing on the fact that he faked his death instead of just celebrating that he's alive? It's just so much to think about, and I try to keep it positive, keep it best-case-scenario. But I know that it may not go down like that. Because that's the way life works, the way this society works. But what I'm also thinking about is that minority of people who believe that CM is innocent, and someone else killed MJ. How are they going to react when Michael bams and Murray is in "jail"? Will they direct their anger towards Michael because he let an innocent man go to "jail"? Will Michael let that happen? Because, if I were him, and some people would be upset to some degree when I came back, I wouldn't want to add that minority to that group, because they might actually have a valid point for "hating". That's why I think Michael may just come back this year, before the sentencing. It's just so confusing, and I know what you guys are gonna say. "It's not meant to be simple," but what I would give for a straight answer.
Whew, glad I got that off my mind. Sorry guys, but I do have a bad habit of bottling up my feelings, and I'm just trying to break it. However, I would like to know why some of you think he's going to come back in 2012. Reasons or links to threads will be appreciated. I am sorry guys, this post is really long, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around this hoax.
I really agree with you on your thoughts. And honestly....with that said and in mind, I can honestly say that I'm somewhat not really anxious or hoping for a BAMs day....I hope MJ is living in PEACE ...enjoying his family and the livelihood that he longed for when he was consistently in the spotlight. Some of you may disagree....but regardless of what lessons are learned due to the outcome of this hoax, there will ALLLLLWAAAAYYYYSSS be someone or something that will put their two non-sense in degrading the fact of the matter. That's just life. When someone lives to do something right for the benefit of others, certain ppl don't like it and thrive to continuously slander the greater good.
Anywho, if MJ does indeed come back for a BAM, I really hope he remains safe as well as his family. I hope he is in the best of God's care and protection. He has served an amazing purpose on this earth...and for us beLIEvers and even unbelievers, it will NEVER be forgotten. I pray that those on the dark side will eventually see the light....#ThatIsAll bearhug geek/
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i dont think that bam will be in 2011. but i'd be happy to be wrong.
i think 2012. at some point.
i dont think mj would just do press conference, as media can cut and manipulate. perhaps the family with mj will announce and then there will be something pre recorded by mj released for television to be played as a world exclusive so that he can explain how and why. i think when fans hear why and their eyes are opened, they wont hate. there will be other haters out there. that is to be expected.
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After 2 years November 29th isn't too soon mj_dance/
I agree, but I think it would be in 2012. The reason why I always say it seems too soon, is because I just think the whole idea of bamsday is a fairytale, do you know what I mean? Like it's something that's so amazing, it isn't real. It's too good to be true.. of course I believe in Michael coming back 100%, but it just seems so unreal that any date feels 'too soon' :lol: it's so confusing!! /scream/
I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
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MJFAN7. I know where you're coming from it is hard to believe MJ would comeback, but remember what Akon said 'Michael's entire life is choreographed'...if MJ is hiding, he won't stay hiding for long. This hoax is reaching it's maturity date/expiration both scriptwise and contractually (dancers have the 2 year non-disclosure agreement). Joaquin Phoenix's hoax lasted 2 years. Theoretically there is nothing left to do now but a comeback. 8-) I think it's funny how the fans misunderstood the "Bam" comment as his comeback when all it really was a direction towards when the band should start playing during the dramatic pause in Human Nature, but now we lovingly know it as Bam Day. The seal of confidence from MJ to the fans that this is all a live production is his signature at the end credits of This Is It. It is the keystone clue that this is a directed act by the man himself. Also (and this is tantamount) someone who had access the IMDB.com account for the Conrad Murray Documentary put MJ as the Director early this year for about a week or so and was quickly pulled afterwards. There's alot of noise, alot of noise:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3735024/
moonwalk_/
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I see the general opinion is that Nov 29 is too soon.
I don't think at all it's too soon. After 2+ years of absence how can you guys say it's too soon /pull hair/?
Michael please please please I'm begging you , it's not too soon angel, please come back bow/ bow/ bow/ bearhug bearhug bearhug mj_bad/ mj_bad/ mj_bad/
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@Gina I think it's possible MJ already has a set date for his 'comeback'...I totally understand what your saying, 2 years is a long time and everyone else is saying this year is too soon...but too soon = perfect for BAM, no one will know what hit them, it will be like whiplash...lol, umm, but, the time MJ comes back, it will have to be timed right, I'm sure he would want to comeback as soon as possible, but it just has to happen the way it's meant to be.
The only thing I'm worried about is missing MJ's BAM and having hear or read about it later.
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
Thank God MJ is unbreakable, invincible and immortal, all at the same time :o
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I can't believe almost all of you think 29th of november is too soon /pull hair/ too soon ,it's never too soon after all it's been 2 years.
and I thought we were done with setting bams day, I guess NOT!
Even if murray sentence to "just" house arrest, he is still "guilty" of manslaughter. I think it still the same as he would go to jail.
I mean, for how long can murray be "guilty"?!
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Well I too think it's too soon, but only in terms of where the world is heading...it's just too shocking for people to handle...I know it will be shocking regardless if people are prepared for it or not but, I mean I think MJ might comeback in the mix of shocks and controversy (truths about our government start to come out, shocking political decisions, world events etc)...to have MJ comeback now ( I'm thinking about this from the world's point of view) would be like...'and what's the point of faking your death with nothing to show for it, what's the relevance'...but who knows...
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I suppose one needs time to recover from a lifetime filled with so much pain.
Mourning is only the selfishness of those left behind.
A lot of things that happend in his life are just products of the merciless demands from the public (and yes, I also DO mean fans here).
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is you when you perceived that Michael's back --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/21amre8.gif) ... funny :lol: May I join you? :lol: Some flips won't (hopefully) harm too much. I would just make sure that I have a soft mattress beneath. :lol:
I guess when the BAMs day is here, my heart would stop beating for several seconds. lolol/ I would be taken aback. Approximately 2,5 years have passed, and yes it has gone really, really fast. It feels like it was merely three weeks ago. I'm yearning for the big day bounce/ Hope Mike's doing fine albino/ moonwalk_/
Hugs and L.O.V.E.
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i guess what some people are suggesting, is that it is too soon from trial not mj's date of 'death'
if he bams now so close to trial, what was purpose of trial and verdict. i think the verdict needs to happen and the public / non believers will sit with what they think is truth for a little while. then when least expeced next year mj to bam..
of course this is all speculation.
even though some say it is too soon for bam, they dont mean they dont miss him. the last 2 years have been difficult for all concerned
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
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i guess what some people are suggesting, is that it is too soon from trial not mj's date of 'death'
if he bams now so close to trial, what was purpose of trial and verdict. i think the verdict needs to happen and the public / non believers will sit with what they think is truth for a little while. then when least expeced next year mj to bam..
of course this is all speculation.
even though some say it is too soon for bam, they dont mean they dont miss him. the last 2 years have been difficult for all concerned
Ditto Aussie! /bravo/
I believe there's a sting in this hoax and until the mission is accomplished, he can not BAM. We do not know what exactly is going on behind the curtain and how long it is going to take but the trial was just the beginning of somethings and that's the reason why I believe it would be too soon if he BAMed on the 29th of this month. I miss him like crazy, every moment, every second but I know that he has very important reasons to fake his death, so we should be patient and allow him to accomplish his mission.
Give HIM all your LOVE, support, loyalty, endurance, courage, strength & patience...Believe HIM and put your trust in HIM, HE needs us.
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
Haha yeah that would be savage BAM party :) but knowing me if I met MJ I would just be like this :-[ or hide in a corner or something :roll:
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
I like how you think! /bravo/ bearhug
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is you when you perceived that Michael's back --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/21amre8.gif) ... funny :lol: May I join you? :lol: Some flips won't (hopefully) harm too much. I would just make sure that I have a soft mattress beneath. :lol:
I guess when the BAMs day is here, my heart would stop beating for several seconds. lolol/ I would be taken aback. Approximately 2,5 years have passed, and yes it has gone really, really fast. It feels like it was merely three weeks ago. I'm yearning for the big day bounce/ Hope Mike's doing fine albino/ moonwalk_/
Hugs and L.O.V.E.
:lol: :lol: I wish, but I'll probably try to do a backflip and look like this:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u285/self_proclaimed_hero/Funniez/failflip.gif)
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
I like how you think! /bravo/ bearhug
Keep dreaming dream team :P
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You guys ever wonder what will happen to us if he is actually dead and will never BAM? I would better die than reach those days :|
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He would not want you to think that....
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He would not want you to think that....
He probably wouldn't care in the first place.
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He would not want you to think that....
He probably wouldn't care in the first place.
@ GINA!!!!! * slapps ginas face & shakes her by the shoulders*
snap out of it girl. dont doubt what you know is true.
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He would not want you to think that....
He probably wouldn't care in the first place.
@ GINA!!!!! * slapps ginas face & shakes her by the shoulders*
snap out of it girl. dont doubt what you know is true.
LOL OK I take my words back. He would care for a few seconds moonwalk_/
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I read "November 29" in one of the notes on the mirror in Mj´s bathroom. Is that why some think he ´ll be back then?
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I read "November 29" in one of the notes on the mirror in Mj´s bathroom. Is that why some think he ´ll be back then?
Is this the note you are referring to?
I wonder why the top is blurred out.... suspicious//
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I read "November 29" in one of the notes on the mirror in Mj´s bathroom. Is that why some think he ´ll be back then?
Is this the note you are referring to?
I wonder why the top is blurred out.... suspicious//
I read Nov 29 but could be something else. No idea why the top is blurred...my gosh.
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Gina!! Are you forgetting who Michael is? He always said his fans were 2nd in his life after his family, of course he cares :mrgreen:
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Gina!! Are you forgetting who Michael is? He always said his fans were 2nd in his life after his family, of course he cares :mrgreen:
"I'm married to my fans -- I'm married to life, I'm married to my career!"
(not exact quote- but the married to his fans bit was DEFINITELY exact!)
I don't doubt his love for us, that's for sure.
Awesome thing to remind us of. <3 <3
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But we are millions and he's only one. he has a lot of people to care about bearhug
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Well I too think it's too soon, but only in terms of where the world is heading...it's just too shocking for people to handle...I know it will be shocking regardless if people are prepared for it or not but, I mean I think MJ might comeback in the mix of shocks and controversy (truths about our government start to come out, shocking political decisions, world events etc)...to have MJ comeback now ( I'm thinking about this from the world's point of view) would be like...'and what's the point of faking your death with nothing to show for it, what's the relevance'...but who knows...
So, do you think MJ really will have 'nothing to show for it', or are you saying something will change between now and next year that will make his "re-entry" stand out as more shocking than any government expose'?
No matter what his purpose, I would kind of like to see his reappearance really stand out--not just overshadow another breaking news story, and especially not as a backpage story, because the real life headlines are SO over the top, by the time he comes back. You know how the press has kinda snickered at him. I hate that!! They are going to look like idiots, and they will not be happy to report this news... I think it was Front, who said MJ's not playing around wondering how to come back---he has planned ALREADY, something with shocking relevance, which will shut everyone's mouths! It sounds dangerous and scary, but, we just have to hope it is the play-scary. errrr
The good kind. bearhug
I don't think there will be 'nothing' to show for it. I mean, by the time he comes back, even the rift between fans will be repaired, so we really will (ALL) ♫ Come Together (over MJ )♫. I think it's too soon, just because MJ wants to give the non- beLIEvers more time, to at least , become loving hopeful skeptics, about his "death". They need more time and reading around, to fully digest the implications of a afraid/ :lol: ;) FAKED trial as well...MJ is more than genius, he is a very patient Lover . :-*
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is you when you perceived that Michael's back --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/21amre8.gif) ... funny :lol: May I join you? :lol: Some flips won't (hopefully) harm too much. I would just make sure that I have a soft mattress beneath. :lol:
I guess when the BAMs day is here, my heart would stop beating for several seconds. lolol/ I would be taken aback. Approximately 2,5 years have passed, and yes it has gone really, really fast. It feels like it was merely three weeks ago. I'm yearning for the big day bounce/ Hope Mike's doing fine albino/ moonwalk_/
Hugs and L.O.V.E.
:lol: :lol: I wish, but I'll probably try to do a backflip and look like this:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u285/self_proclaimed_hero/Funniez/failflip.gif)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I can't stop laughing :lol: :lol: :lol: And I love to laugh. Soon I'm going to do this --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/25piexz.gif) You're so hilarious MJFAN7! Much L.O.V.E. and respect to you! respect/
And I adore your party idea PureLove! Let's have party with all the believers...and MJ is the host. rr/ The happy believers join the party -----> (http://i44.tinypic.com/ej2hk.gif) Party, party, party! party/ Cheers! beerchug
Much L.O.V.E. and happiness to all of you!
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I just want to clarify that I do not find it entertaining to se somebody hurt. To be completely candid with you, I strongly dislike to see a person injured. I was merely conceiving how it would look like if I did a backflip, and that is a moderate funny sight. If somebody want to do a backflip, I would propose that you use a soft mattress, alternatively water (for instance in pools) or suchlike. I think everyone want to survive the day of the BAM. lolol/
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is you when you perceived that Michael's back --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/21amre8.gif) ... funny :lol: May I join you? :lol: Some flips won't (hopefully) harm too much. I would just make sure that I have a soft mattress beneath. :lol:
I guess when the BAMs day is here, my heart would stop beating for several seconds. lolol/ I would be taken aback. Approximately 2,5 years have passed, and yes it has gone really, really fast. It feels like it was merely three weeks ago. I'm yearning for the big day bounce/ Hope Mike's doing fine albino/ moonwalk_/
Hugs and L.O.V.E.
:lol: :lol: I wish, but I'll probably try to do a backflip and look like this:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u285/self_proclaimed_hero/Funniez/failflip.gif)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I can't stop laughing :lol: :lol: :lol: And I love to laugh. Soon I'm going to do this --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/25piexz.gif) You're so hilarious MJFAN7! Much L.O.V.E. and respect to you! respect/
And I adore your party idea PureLove! Let's have party with all the believers...and MJ is the host. rr/ The happy believers join the party -----> (http://i44.tinypic.com/ej2hk.gif) Party, party, party! party/ Cheers! beerchug
Much L.O.V.E. and happiness to all of you!
:lol: :lol: Well, thank you. L.O.V.E to you too! I love your signature by the way, it's soo adorable ! :mrgreen:
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Well I too think it's too soon, but only in terms of where the world is heading...it's just too shocking for people to handle...I know it will be shocking regardless if people are prepared for it or not but, I mean I think MJ might comeback in the mix of shocks and controversy (truths about our government start to come out, shocking political decisions, world events etc)...to have MJ comeback now ( I'm thinking about this from the world's point of view) would be like...'and what's the point of faking your death with nothing to show for it, what's the relevance'...but who knows...
So, do you think MJ really will have 'nothing to show for it', or are you saying something will change between now and next year that will make his "re-entry" stand out as more shocking than any government expose'?
No matter what his purpose, I would kind of like to see his reappearance really stand out--not just overshadow another breaking news story, and especially not as a backpage story, because the real life headlines are SO over the top, by the time he comes back. You know how the press has kinda snickered at him. I hate that!! They are going to look like idiots, and they will not be happy to report this news... I think it was Front, who said MJ's not playing around wondering how to come back---he has planned ALREADY, something with shocking relevance, which will shut everyone's mouths! It sounds dangerous and scary, but, we just have to hope it is the play-scary. errrr
The good kind. bearhug
I don't think there will be 'nothing' to show for it. I mean, by the time he comes back, even the rift between fans will be repaired, so we really will (ALL) ♫ Come Together (over MJ )♫. I think it's too soon, just because MJ wants to give the non- beLIEvers more time, to at least , become loving hopeful skeptics, about his "death". They need more time and reading around, to fully digest the implications of a afraid/ :lol: ;) FAKED trial as well...MJ is more than genius, he is a very patient Lover . :-*
Hi Its Her, where have you been for so long?
So you think he's giving time to the non believers?
Well while he's waiting for them to come around there's a good chance we become non believers /pull hair/
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I agree, november 29th seems too soon, and knowing michael the bam's not going to be the date that everyone expects, its going to be that little tiny detail that people either miss or take no notice of.
Its all for love guys :) <3
too soon?? omg!! after 2 years,we'r still saying "too soon"?? do u think there will be an end?? i think that now we'r so frightened of being disappointed (again and again),that,every year,we think it's too early.... it's obvious,mike is now free 2 live the way he deserves,he gave us so much!! ....but every1 of us (still) wants 2 hope. ;)
*LUNA*
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I have 3 BAM dates in mind, but the 29th is not one of them.
Best scenario is November 30, 2011. It will be 888 days since June 25 which ties in with the Elvis connection and with BACK's 7 day theory (7 days + one day of simmering, so 777 days would require 111 days of simmering) It's also Thriller anniversary, and it's a Wednesday (see you next Wednesday - Thriller video). It will also be exactly one year after TS' last update 6.5. TS posted that at 11:30 and this was the 11th (2011?) paragraph:
11. Eleven Thirty
I have titled this post update #6.5 (not update #7), because this is primarily a continuation of update #6. And yes, it’s also because I said that update #7 will probably be after BAM. Does this mean that there will still be more updates and/or posts, before update #7 (6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.95, 6.96, 6.999, etc)? I won’t say absolutely no, but most likely not.
Repeatedly, I’ve said that I would not do much if any more (posts or redirects); but I kept watching, and I saw a need and wanted to help. But now, it has come to the point where I would rather say and do no more, than continue causing endless controversy that is not going anywhere.
I will be watching, and if anyone wants to make a serious attempt at the $999 reward: I will certainly either respond to it or else send the money; but they must be serious calculations. Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again. If I have been wrong on anything, time will tell. And if I’ve been right, time will also tell—the truth will prevail.
Instead of doing a whole new post: I may on a rare occasion make a comment or two in a thread that was posted by someone else (and probably redirect to that comment, so people will who are following TIAI will see it). But redirects will not be daily anymore; those who still don’t accept TIAI/TS probably never will, no matter what I redirect to or whatever I write in a post, so there’ really s no point.
The hoax doesn’t rely only on TS anyway; as many have said, they believed in the hoax before TS ever posted anything. In fact, don’t you think there is good reason why I didn’t post any new thread—or even make a comment in an existing thread—until more than two months after the “death”? If I had posted immediately after 6-25-2009, then people could claim that TS is the reason for believing in the hoax; but it did not happen this way, for a good reason.
This update 6.5 (6 + 5 = 11) was posted at 11:30 PM (CA time), on 11-30 (November 30). Also, a few days ago TIAI redirected to a clock with the hands at 11:30 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16037 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16037)}. What is the significance of this? As usual, the redirect had more than one meaning.
The Thriller album was released on 11-30 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album))}; and Eliza’s case was previously scheduled for 11-30, although it is now rescheduled for 12-14 {http://chancerydata.shelbycountytn.gov/pls/chweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=CH-09-1696 (http://chancerydata.shelbycountytn.gov/pls/chweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=CH-09-1696)}.
Speaking of Thriller, 11:30 (PM) is “close to midnight ... the midnight hour is close at hand”. So 11:30 also represents near the end (end of the day, or end of the hoax, or end of the world, etc).
And finally, we are now about half way between 2009 and 2012 (“four more years”); and 11:30 is half way between 11:00 and 12:00. The clock is ticking, and there is no time for unimportant or unkind controversy. Yes, some things are important and must be discussed—even if we don’t agree; but even then, disagreements should be done respectfully. It’s all for LOVE!
“And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26). I have said the following more than once before, but people seem to quickly forget it; so I am going to end by repeating this one more time. Jermaine said: “it’s all going to come out” (and this was in the context of the “airport” slip-up); until it does all come out, keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!
Not only is 6+5 11, 6x5 is 30. He also redirected in January of this year to one of my posts, where I state that I disagree with BAM being in 2012, because I think he would be too late: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17498#p299066 (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/ if you want to verify).
Anyways, the sentencing being just one day before that day, makes it even more interesting for me, but TS has surprised me more than once, so I could be wrong.
The other two are 3/20/2012 (day 999) and 10/28/2012 (TII 3 year anniversary, 4 years inclusive; 2009-2010-2011-2012 and also day 1221). I do hope it's my first guess though... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Come to think of it, March 20th is a no-go. According to Stevie it should be in autumn:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6qJERYTc8[/youtube]
Her carefully altered the lyrics for us;
You said then you would be the light in autumn
Said you’d be the one who’d lead the way
I never dreamed you’d leave in summer
But now I find my love has gone away
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Interesting dates in 2012.
But now is the time. I don't know, I just feel like Nov. 30 is a good day to BAM.
What do you think Michael albino/ ?
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Come to think of it, March 20th is a no-go. According to Stevie it should be in autumn:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6qJERYTc8[/youtube]
Her carefully altered the lyrics for us;
You said then you would be the light in autumn
Said you’d be the one who’d lead the way
I never dreamed you’d leave in summer
But now I find my love has gone away
@Souza...What a "coincidence" that you should post this Stevie Wonder video today. My husband and I just re-watched the whole memorial last night, and we commented on this exact point!. It's like you were tapped into our minds!
Speaking of the Memorial, This is one of our favorite parts. The "Message" is CLEAR...It's all for LOVE!
"Thank You Michael...I LOVE You"!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MAKLq865bk&feature=fvsr[/youtube]
It is always good to "take a look BACK", when you aren't finding the answers you've been searching for!
I LOVE You all very Much! Blessings, LOVE and LIGHT!
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When he will want, he knows that we are here to wait for him michael-jackson/ .....and this is amazing......all united for Michael.... bearhug LOVE YOU ALL GUYS !!!! Thanks for this days !!! bearhug bounce/
moonwalk_/
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bearhug Back at ya Blankie!!!
With LOVE Always!
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Keeping Michael’s message “we’ve got 4 years to get it right, to fix it” in mind, I think the BAM will be in 2013: 2009-2010 =>1, 2010-2011=>2, 2011-2012=>3, 2012-2013=>4. This hoax is huge, perhaps more complicated than we know OR less complicated than we expect and perfectly prepared and planned in probably many years or even a decade(s) prior to his ‘death’. A BAM after 2 years might be ‘too soon’ from Michael’s perspective, considering all the years of preparation and depending on Michael’s timeline and goal(s). I can’t stop thinking of these 4 years to ‘fix it’. MJ’s songs and messages in This Is It are the tools to reach the goal(s) to get it right (with the L.O.V.E.) on this earth for each of us personally (look in the mirror and make that change), yet in unity.
IF Michael BAMs… I’m in a kinda duality argue/ because I’d imagine that Michael won’t BAM because he lives a ‘new’ life with his kids, family and friends, enjoys life in disguise and will be there behind the scenes (movies, songs, tutoring), which we at least owe him, imo, OR he will BAM after 4 years to underline the hoax, to reveal truth and to show that media got it wrong all along (which MJ can do best!) 8-).
I support both scenario’s, BAM or NO-BAM! All for LOVE.
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I don't have any idea but I've been seeing hints about the fall. I don't know if this means the fall of 2011 or the fall or 2012. There is the song at the memorial with Stevie Wonder, and there was also a song with the lines "When the Leaves Begin to Fall" or something to that effect on Youtube a while BACK. There are also hints about the number 11 which is november. We'll see what happens and I'll be here no matter what happens.
Love
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and there was also a song with the lines "When the Leaves Begin to Fall" or something to that effect on Youtube a while BACK.
Don't you mean 'When the RAIN begins to fall'? (Don't tell anyone, but I secretly love this song, one of the songs for which I put the volume to max whenever it is being played on the radio...) :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKeqliGR-Og[/youtube]
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I’m in a kinda duality argue/ because I’d imagine that Michael won’t BAM because he lives a ‘new’ life with his kids, family and friends, enjoys life in disguise and will be there behind the scenes (movies, songs, tutoring), which we at least owe him, imo, OR he will BAM after 4 years to underline the hoax, to reveal truth and to show that media got it wrong all along (which MJ can do best!) 8-).
I support both scenario’s, BAM or NO-BAM! All for LOVE.
My thoughts exactly. ;u;
I love him no matter what he does. All I want is to know that he is alive and still on Earth in the flesh, being happy, doing things he loves, being with people he loves.
And I can still believe that one day, I still can come face to face with him--
Even if I'm not sure if the face I'm looking at is his, through a clever disguise he's got on to continue convincing the world Michael Jackson the entertainer is dead ('til he's ready to come back that way)...
But I'll know that for a brief moment, maybe I looked into the eyes of Michael Jackson the _person_.
;.; *pray*
Souza- I won't tell! :lol: Don't feel bad! I really like "Dynamite" by Jermaine, too... shh ;D
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Wow Souza! I love your dates, they have a lot of numerology backing them up! 8-)
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Jermaine said Michael had a 5-year plan.....so BAM (if it happens) could be 2014!
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MJFAN7
That backflop is nasty. :cry: You won't be enjoying BAM with a broken neck. Maybe try water... ;)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqP_bP3BDVH4cUNfIP6IRCk8fQeiotLLYZW0xOnB0URxDpSWof)
Souza and mjj4ever777, thank you for reminding us of those moving parts of MJ’s memorial. Kleenex time!
Souza, love your good bam date options! It may be none of them, but it’s still fun to ponder/speculate.
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Jermaine said Michael had a 5-year plan.....so BAM (if it happens) could be 2014!
Jermaine said Michael had a 5-years plan, but starting from 2008.
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
I'm with you on that one...lets take a vote...lol...but it's not gonna happen...but if MJ wants to 'SURPRISE' us, he should do that....I mean, big deal what's say, a day difference going to make if he BAMs for us first, think about that MJ.
Well I too think it's too soon, but only in terms of where the world is heading...it's just too shocking for people to handle...I know it will be shocking regardless if people are prepared for it or not but, I mean I think MJ might comeback in the mix of shocks and controversy (truths about our government start to come out, shocking political decisions, world events etc)...to have MJ comeback now ( I'm thinking about this from the world's point of view) would be like...'and what's the point of faking your death with nothing to show for it, what's the relevance'...but who knows...
So, do you think MJ really will have 'nothing to show for it', or are you saying something will change between now and next year that will make his "re-entry" stand out as more shocking than any government expose'?
No matter what his purpose, I would kind of like to see his reappearance really stand out--not just overshadow another breaking news story, and especially not as a backpage story, because the real life headlines are SO over the top, by the time he comes back. You know how the press has kinda snickered at him. I hate that!! They are going to look like idiots, and they will not be happy to report this news... I think it was Front, who said MJ's not playing around wondering how to come back---he has planned ALREADY, something with shocking relevance, which will shut everyone's mouths! It sounds dangerous and scary, but, we just have to hope it is the play-scary. errrr
The good kind. bearhug
I don't think there will be 'nothing' to show for it. I mean, by the time he comes back, even the rift between fans will be repaired, so we really will (ALL) ♫ Come Together (over MJ )♫. I think it's too soon, just because MJ wants to give the non- beLIEvers more time, to at least , become loving hopeful skeptics, about his "death". They need more time and reading around, to fully digest the implications of a afraid/ :lol: ;) FAKED trial as well...MJ is more than genius, he is a very patient Lover . :-*
Oh no HER, you always give me questions I can't answer or make me explain myself...lol...I always have to be on the ball or retract what I said...jk...anyway...I don't mean it will be more shocking, even though it will, I mean it will seem more fitting or 'normal' to BAM when all of these things happen.
I agree, I don't want it to be overshadowed and I don't think it will no matter what....I don't meant it exactly like 'he will have nothing to show for it' but it will seem out of place or out of nowhere (in my opinion) if MJ BAMS, say now, when nothing significant has happened in the world, and I mean governmental issues.
I don't think the non believers will ever get it, especially now with the guilty verdict...we will wait forever for them to figure it out, not that I'm bagging them, I just think their 'LOVE' for MJ, overshadows anything, it doesn't allow them to see straight...if they remove or replace whatever they have for MJ, then I think it will become more clearer to them.
P.S I really do think that a lot will be exposed about the government but will it be by MJ when he BAMS?, now, while he is behind the scenes? or by others?...which reminds me do you know when Caroline Kennedy's book is coming out and the Jackie O tapes?
I have 3 BAM dates in mind, but the 29th is not one of them.
Best scenario is November 30, 2011. It will be 888 days since June 25 which ties in with the Elvis connection and with BACK's 7 day theory (7 days + one day of simmering, so 777 days would require 111 days of simmering) It's also Thriller anniversary, and it's a Wednesday (see you next Wednesday - Thriller video). It will also be exactly one year after TS' last update 6.5. TS posted that at 11:30 and this was the 11th (2011?) paragraph:
Not only is 6+5 11, 6x5 is 30. He also redirected in January of this year to one of my posts, where I state that I disagree with BAM being in 2012, because I think he would be too late: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17498#p299066 (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/ if you want to verify).
Anyways, the sentencing being just one day before that day, makes it even more interesting for me, but TS has surprised me more than once, so I could be wrong.
The other two are 3/20/2012 (day 999) and 10/28/2012 (TII 3 year anniversary, 4 years inclusive; 2009-2010-2011-2012 and also day 1221). I do hope it's my first guess though... :lol: :lol: :lol:
I hope it's your first guess...but the annoying thing is so many dates fit in the numerology...but yeah, I do remember when TS redirected to your post about how 2012 is too late...but my feeling is it will be this year, I don't care what date it is, but this year would be good...I think Nov 29th will be a determining factor...also with the whole rabbit thing referencing to Alice in Wonderland and 2011, it just seems to me that the rabbit symbolizes the BAM to be this year, since it is the year of the rabbit...but with this hoax nothing is written in script stone, or is it, I don't know.
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I don't think November 29th. It seems too soon, but then again, every date I hear seems too soon. Maybe it's just that it seems unreal :lol:
Have yall actually deeply though about bamsday? Like REALLY thought about it. How's he going to do it? When? How will the public react? Am I going to faint/pee my pants/die/do a backflip? :lol: I think about this all the time, it just seems so unreal though... like a fairy tale. I also agree though that it will be in 2012.
I suggest that you should do a backflip :lol: ...just be cautious lolol/ I agree with you on that every date we conjecture seems too soon. But it has gone more than 2 years. It sounds surrealistic to see Michael again after more than 2 years. I'm sooo aspiring to the BAM! bounce/ Think about the situation when you a regular day turn on the TV and see that the one and only MJ is back. Yep, I'm dreaming right now. 8-) I would also guess that 2012 is the year, but it won't hurt to BAM earlier. :)
Lots of L.O.V.E.
Haha, I have never done any flip in my life, but I bet after seeing Michael live on my TV ill be doing all kinds of flips. :lol: :lol:
& I would loveee for Michael to bam today, tomorrow, any day! I think I can wait though, I mean, I've waited 2 years so far! :lol: and the years have actually gone by REALLY REALLY fast :shock: It feels like it's been decades since we've seen Michael, but 2009 doesn't seem like it was (almost) 3 years ago. Danggg.
:lol: :lol: :lol: This is you when you perceived that Michael's back --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/21amre8.gif) ... funny :lol: May I join you? :lol: Some flips won't (hopefully) harm too much. I would just make sure that I have a soft mattress beneath. :lol:
I guess when the BAMs day is here, my heart would stop beating for several seconds. lolol/ I would be taken aback. Approximately 2,5 years have passed, and yes it has gone really, really fast. It feels like it was merely three weeks ago. I'm yearning for the big day bounce/ Hope Mike's doing fine albino/ moonwalk_/
Hugs and L.O.V.E.
:lol: :lol: I wish, but I'll probably try to do a backflip and look like this:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u285/self_proclaimed_hero/Funniez/failflip.gif)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I can't stop laughing :lol: :lol: :lol: And I love to laugh. Soon I'm going to do this --------> (http://i40.tinypic.com/25piexz.gif) You're so hilarious MJFAN7! Much L.O.V.E. and respect to you! respect/
And I adore your party idea PureLove! Let's have party with all the believers...and MJ is the host. rr/ The happy believers join the party -----> (http://i44.tinypic.com/ej2hk.gif) Party, party, party! party/ Cheers! beerchug
Much L.O.V.E. and happiness to all of you!
:lol: :lol: Well, thank you. L.O.V.E to you too! I love your signature by the way, it's soo adorable ! :mrgreen:
Thank you!! :-* He has such a irresistible smile! Sooo adorable! I do also love your signature! He's so cute with kids :-*
I just want to clarify that I do not find it entertaining to se somebody hurt. To be completely candid with you, I strongly dislike to see a person injured. I was merely conceiving how it would look like if I did a backflip, and that is a moderate funny sight. If somebody want to do a backflip, I would propose that you use a soft mattress, alternatively water (for instance in pools) or suchlike. I think everyone want to survive the day of the BAM. lolol/
Have a further painless and happy day! Love to all!
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I've said all along that I think 2012 would be a little late for a BAM. I mean, look around what is happening right now to the world. We are in a kind of revolution. I think the BAM will be a catalyst for a bigger revolution. It's pretty obvious that people are pissed off (FINALLY) with how things are running in the world today. To use Michael's lyric, "We've Had Enough." I think 2011 is a significant year because if shit hits the fan in 2012, we all need to be prepared-and I believe the BAM and the information finally freely flowing and truth being revealed will be that preparation. For those Americans in this forum, Congress is seriously thinking about censoring the internet. College Students are storming administrative meetings pissed off about education budget cuts. People are camping out and protesting in major cities. I mean, this is it. Maybe God (or higher being or the fates, whatever you believe) saw this coming, had this planned. I think Michael had several BAM dates these past 2 years and he had to skip out on them because the general public wasn't pissed off enough yet.
My point is, I think a BAM in 2011 is important to prepare us for 2012 (which, while I don't think the world will necessarily end, I DO think it will be revolutionized).
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That was a good post Souza. Everything TS does is for a reason, so he must have meant something when he re-directed to that post. I'd love for this year to be when BAMday happens too but who knows.
TS also said if MJ doesn't comeback before Jan. 1, 2013, than we can say he is a "fake informer". 2014 is wayyyyyy to late lol.
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Not only is 6+5 11, 6x5 is 30. He also redirected in January of this year to one of my posts, where I state that I disagree with BAM being in 2012, because I think he would be too late: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17498#p299066 (http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/ if you want to verify).
thank you for quoting this redirect again. i missed this when i went back to the old TS posts, (have done soooo much reading) so am glad that i caught it this time round. thank you i appreciate that.
@ all - by the way people, i friggon LOVE this thread!
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I beLIEve the BAM is set for 2011. Mike had better haul tail before God Almighty trumps. The Man Upstairs waits for no one and two prior failed BAM attempts already is not charming.
What do you mean by two failed BAM attempts? When were those?
I just want to point out that 11/29/11 is still 11/11/11 (2+9 = 11).
Also, did anyone notice the test last week of the new countrywide alert system? Perhaps just in time for an announcement from our Mr. V?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mQnIiT6BbBk
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If it ever happends we'll miss it anyway, it's not like he will BAM in my room so I can actually not miss it :lol: geek/
:lol: :lol: :lol:...yeah, imagine him going to every house and BAMMING, that would take a lifetime.
You know what guys? I wish he BAMed us, the believers first before he did to the world. A meeting party with us and then BAM to the world. Wouldn't that be great? A secret celebrating party with the believers? We deserve to be BAMed first. :lol:
party/
I'm with you on that one...lets take a vote...lol...but it's not gonna happen...but if MJ wants to 'SURPRISE' us, he should do that....I mean, big deal what's say, a day difference going to make if he BAMs for us first, think about that MJ.
MICHAEL PLEASE! geek/
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LOL!! Pure Love y'all are too much!....BAM!!!!
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I've pondered for a long time on the most optimum BAM date. Certainly it's arduous to give a specific date, but let me think out loud.
As stated it is exactly 888 days between June 25 2009 and November 30 2011. 1 day after Murray gets his sentence. That day fits well. Michael is currently getting some attention due to the trial, and why not BAM in November 30? (If you count June 25 it will be 888 days by November 29) A Wednesday (or Tuesday) is also a great day. I do not think he will BAM neither on a Saturday nor Sunday, by virtue of the less attention. Everyone has to receive his significant message(s).
It has been a lot talking about 2012, and it is very likely the BAM is going to be that year. I'm almost assured that he at least won't BAM between July 27 and August 12 next year because of the Olympic Games. Although it is taking place in the well-known city London. Or maybe we would see Michael doing some high jumping? (http://i42.tinypic.com/sg4hmv.gif) Just kidding. lolol/ I don't know, I just have a feeling that MJ wants much attention when he BAMs, and the Olympic Games will be getting much attention. No one should miss when Michael BAMs. October 28 2012 sounds logical, due to the This is it and day 1221 stuff, but this day is a Sunday. The day of the week isn't perhaps that essentiell.
This was merely my thoughts that have been circulating in my head lately. I keep my fingers crossed for November 29 or 30, or later this year. But I have patience. Patience is a virtue.
Much L.O.V.E. and hugs bearhug
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Actually, it's 888 days to 11/29 if you use inclusive dating like they do in the bible! And all he has to do is take over all the broadcasting systems simultaneously like in V for Vendetta and he will have the attention of the world. Good thing they tested it last week for the first time. Wouldn't want a technical failure at the last moment.
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Well, every day I think he could be back today - that way I know one day I'll be right!
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Hi Its Her, where have you been for so long?
So you think he's giving time to the non believers?
Well while he's waiting for them to come around there's a good chance we become non believers /pull hair/
Hi Gina,
Yup, I sure do think he is going to win over SOME---maybe not the real stubborn die-hard angry ones---Non-beLIEvers. He's had billions of fans over his lifetime. Not all of them ate and drank and slept :shock: Michael Jackson 24/7/365, so it is reasonable that some may not have known things about him, when he "died", like his being a complete twisted Joker afraid/, and Planner of Thrills other than the musical/video kind...They may not have known that Mr. Love was interested in being on the cutting edge of every technical advance, or that there even WAS such a thing as an A.R.G. ???/
I didn't know what an A.R.G. was until months after I came here. :oops:
Most people (except those "Followers" :roll: ), have jobs which take up fifty hours a week or more, and husbands, kids and pets and commitments which leave them too ragged to keep up with someone they know they will never meet, especially since he "died"...It is easier to just resign one's self to the situation. I can't imagine Michael leaving these sad :-\ people in the dust!!!
I think none of US will fall apart if he tarries a little bit. WE know, kinda sorta ;), what's going on. I can't IMAGINE still crying over him, still thinking he is dead after that goofball trial! Many, many people, beaten up by the cares of life, have NO sense of humor and CAN'T see what we saw in court. But I think they are tired of being mad and sad, and WANT to be happy about MJ again! I also think some unbelievers were so intrigued by the accompanying chat, and ESPECIALLY the ones who did not post are thinking NEW things about everything related to MJ's "death" and hoax. It is like every other "rescue"----one at a time---and they tell the others ALL about it! :D ;D bounce/
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Actually, it's 888 days to 11/29 if you use inclusive dating like they do in the bible! And all he has to do is take over all the broadcasting systems simultaneously like in V for Vendetta and he will have the attention of the world. Good thing they tested it last week for the first time. Wouldn't want a technical failure at the last moment.
When did anyone(who?? where???) test this last week???? I missed it! /scream/
EDIT: Thanks for the link---I just saw it. :oops: 8-)
On another subject, I think he will BAM on a Thursday. He seems to favor Thursdays. Someone really smart needs to make the numerology fit a Thursday.
I thought November 30, also----but I think it's too soon for THE Bam this year. I do think SOMETHING will happen that day THIS year!!! Maybe Conrad Murray will "flee the coop"! Jail break!!!! Manhunt!!!! Highway chase! /toldya/ lolol/ Order lots of Pizzas!!!!! I will Keep Watchin' while everyone else is out shoppin'!!!! :) bounce/
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I've said all along that I think 2012 would be a little late for a BAM. I mean, look around what is happening right now to the world. We are in a kind of revolution. I think the BAM will be a catalyst for a bigger revolution. It's pretty obvious that people are pissed off (FINALLY) with how things are running in the world today. To use Michael's lyric, "We've Had Enough." I think 2011 is a significant year because if shit hits the fan in 2012, we all need to be prepared-and I believe the BAM and the information finally freely flowing and truth being revealed will be that preparation. For those Americans in this forum, Congress is seriously thinking about censoring the internet. College Students are storming administrative meetings pissed off about education budget cuts. People are camping out and protesting in major cities. I mean, this is it. Maybe God (or higher being or the fates, whatever you believe) saw this coming, had this planned. I think Michael had several BAM dates these past 2 years and he had to skip out on them because the general public wasn't pissed off enough yet.
My point is, I think a BAM in 2011 is important to prepare us for 2012 (which, while I don't think the world will necessarily end, I DO think it will be revolutionized).
I agree!
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EDIT: Thanks for the link---I just saw it. :oops: 8-)
On another subject, I think he will BAM on a Thursday. He seems to favor Thursdays. Someone really smart needs to make the numerology fit a Thursday.
I thought November 30, also----but I think it's too soon for THE Bam this year. I do think SOMETHING will happen that day THIS year!!! Maybe Conrad Murray will "flee the coop"! Jail break!!!! Manhunt!!!! Highway chase! /toldya/ lolol/ Order lots of Pizzas!!!!! I will Keep Watchin' while everyone else is out shoppin'!!!! :) bounce/[/b][/font]
I have tried to find a feasible date on a Thursday 2012 that would fit with the numerology, but I didn't succeed. Well, my brithday next year (September 20, 2012) is on a Thursday :shock: A great date, but unfortunately it doesn't fit with the numerology. But could you surprise me Michael, please? bow/
If Mike doesn't BAM this year, then I hope something out of the ordinary would happen, as you said. Perhaps Murray would 'starve' in 'jail' and hence he would order lots of pizza!! lolol/
L.O.V.E. and hugs to you!
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He has to bam this year, 2012 is too late, i wouldnt be talking about michael in 2012 because the occupy movement is going to be huge. There would be alot of distraction going on in 2012, not a good year to bam
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I'm still guessing Dec. 21, 2012 because it's the last resort and ushers in a new age/great changes for the better, and if he comes earlier--awesome!
Actually, it's 888 days to 11/29 if you use inclusive dating like they do in the bible! And all he has to do is take over all the broadcasting systems simultaneously like in V for Vendetta and he will have the attention of the world. Good thing they tested it last week for the first time. Wouldn't want a technical failure at the last moment.
Yes, good thing! :lol:
Hi Its Her, where have you been for so long?
So you think he's giving time to the non believers?
Well while he's waiting for them to come around there's a good chance we become non believers /pull hair/
Hi Gina,
Yup, I sure do think he is going to win over SOME---maybe not the real stubborn die-hard angry ones---Non-beLIEvers. He's had billions of fans over his lifetime. Not all of them ate and drank and slept :shock: Michael Jackson 24/7/365, so it is reasonable that some may not have known things about him, when he "died", like his being a complete twisted Joker afraid/ , and Planner of Thrills other than the musical/video kind...They may not have known that Mr. Love was interested in being on the cutting edge of every technical advance, or that there even WAS such a thing as an A.R.G. ???/
I didn't know what an A.R.G. was until months after I came here. :oops:
Most people (except those "Followers" :roll: ), have jobs which take up fifty hours a week or more, and husbands, kids and pets and commitments which leave them too ragged to keep up with someone they know they will never meet, especially since he "died"...It is easier to just resign one's self to the situation. I can't imagine Michael leaving these sad :-\ people in the dust!!!
I think none of US will fall apart if he tarries a little bit. WE know, kinda sorta ;) , what's going on. I can't IMAGINE still crying over him, still thinking he is dead after that goofball trial! Many, many people, beaten up by the cares of life, have NO sense of humor and CAN'T see what we saw in court. But I think they are tired of being mad and sad, and WANT to be happy about MJ again! I also think some unbelievers were so intrigued by the accompanying chat, and ESPECIALLY the ones who did not post are thinking NEW things about everything related to MJ's "death" and hoax. It is like every other "rescue"----one at a time---and they tell the others ALL about it! :D ;D bounce/
So true about people in general. That would have been me a few years ago when my kids were at home. For me the hoax happened at a good time!
Ahh... Its her, you are so refreshing to read!
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Don't worry guys, I dont even know how to try a backflip. :lol:
& I hope Michael bams after 3pm eastern time if he does it on a weekday errrr
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Posted by Itsher:
Most people (except those "Followers" ), have jobs which take up fifty hours a week or more, and husbands, kids and pets and commitments which leave them too ragged to keep up with someone they know they will never meet, especially since he "died"...It is easier to just resign one's self to the situation. I can't imagine Michael leaving these sad people in the dust!!!
:lol: I don't know where you're talkin' about, I don't recognize any of this :mrgreen:
I also think some unbelievers were so intrigued by the accompanying chat, and ESPECIALLY the ones who did not post are thinking NEW things about everything related to MJ's "death" and hoax. It is like every other "rescue"----one at a time---and they tell the others ALL about it!
I was thinking that too bounce/ I thought: "wow, this trial chat is crowded, there must be non-believers here too" ;D I didn't care if they laughed at us believers, I bet they got curious, they started talking about it anyway, I'm sure. This trial chat is a very smart way to draw attention to the forum. I don't know if there is a remarkable increase of registered members linked to this trial. Just curious.
non-believer :arrow: confused/ :roll: smiley_spider :?: typing/ OMG! :idea: :arrow: /white flag/ :arrow: believer bounce/
L.O.V.E. forever
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non-believer :arrow: confused/ :roll: smiley_spider :?: typing/ OMG! :idea: :arrow: /white flag/ :arrow: believer bounce/
L.O.V.E. forever[/color]
very cute.
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I really don't know, but think about this:
12/21/2012 3 + 3 + 5 = 11
If the new golden age starts at 11:11 a.m, then we have another 11-11-11 !!!!!!!!!
Plus, Don't you guys think he has to catch all the "bad" guys first ?? Unless their already caught and we don't know.
Love and Light bearhug
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@ Use_your_illusion
Oh no HER, you always give me questions I can't answer or make me explain myself...lol...I always have to be on the ball or retract what I said...jk...anyway...I don't mean it will be more shocking, even though it will, I mean it will seem more fitting or 'normal' to BAM when all of these things happen.
I agree, I don't want it to be overshadowed and I don't think it will no matter what....I don't meant it exactly like 'he will have nothing to show for it' but it will seem out of place or out of nowhere (in my opinion) if MJ BAMS, say now, when nothing significant has happened in the world, and I mean governmental issues.
I don't think the non believers will ever get it, especially now with the guilty verdict...we will wait forever for them to figure it out, not that I'm bagging them, I just think their 'LOVE' for MJ, overshadows anything, it doesn't allow them to see straight...if they remove or replace whatever they have for MJ, then I think it will become more clearer to them.
P.S I really do think that a lot will be exposed about the government but will it be by MJ when he BAMS?, now, while he is behind the scenes? or by others?...which reminds me do you know when Caroline Kennedy's book is coming out and the Jackie O tapes?
To answer the last question first, idk if this is it (ha ha pun intended) or not, but this one came out in September. No mention of tapes ...
I think the full secret tapes are still under wraps until most of us are gone.... /scream/
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It would be great if it is during the BAM that lots of evil shenanigans are exposed, too. I have read more than a few times that MJ's Message is some Truth the World needs to know. Maybe that is it---the rocks lifted up, exposing all kinds of creepy-crawley things, such as what's all over the news this week---40 childhood victims of a 'well respected' (and protected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) closet child molester.
UYI, while I am only guessing, too, I am just a little mindful of TR777 when he/she said that it would be beyond hurtful, to disregard some fans who are still mourning a death, because they just don't get it...
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=18871.msg331787#msg331787 :
I don't think all of us believe that Michael will BAM on stage like that. It's interesting to entertain all possibilities for sure but I think it's going to be a little more serious than that... No I don't think that at all...... because frankly in my humble opinion that would just be stupid and totally disrespectful to his fans that are IN the know or NOT in the know - it doesn't matter because a lot of fans are still grieving and in pain from the loss (whether they beLIEve it's a permanent loss due to REAL death or a temporary loss due to HOAX death). Pain is pain.
(The following even sounds like something Front said!! afraid/ : )
As empathetic as Michael is, I think he will not CHOOSE but has ALREADY CHOSEN a way.... a method.... a Grand Plan. He's running the show and his plan will be INfallible, I truly beLIEve that. I think he's calling the shots - for the MOST part - although I DO believe that there are some inevitable circumstances that have already taken place (i.e., court related and "evidence" related <----- and I think this is the focal point that we need to zoom in on for the next few weeks) and will CONTINUE to take place that is beyond his control.
Why? Because every great milestone ever accomplished in the history of humankind has never been achieved without obstacles.... without enemies.... without challenges. And this is no different. But in the end I believe justice will prevail and the world will know a better Truth because of it...... a CLEARER Truth that's not obscured by dark clouds and tarnished by poisoned minds of the world.
I have Faith that his plan will NOT fail us....... to the END. It may not please everyone but what does? I think he has chosen a way that will bring at least SOME level of comfort to everyone....... but it might not be what we expect. As we all know ............ with MJ............. expect the UNexpected.
God bless you all,
T.R.
I think TR777 has been given a bad rap, and (s)he knows things...
And, I think November 29th is going to "morph", with courtroom excuses, into November 30th, before we see anything earthshattering, and Nov. 30 is, NOW, too "predictable". (YIKES!! /overreacting/ afraid/ crash/ BAD WORD!!! Sorry errrr, bow/ MJ!!! respect/ respect/ :lol: :lol: I didn't mean to say that dirty word aloud, or on the same page as his initials...! (maybe he won't see it /toldya/ ---running fast , just in case. :lol:)
MJ is anything BUT predictable. LOOK OUT /cook/ it's almost done brewing into a fine aromatic concoction... not Bamcakes...not stew...what IS that?
I can't forget, we never found out what he meant, when he said on two video sets to "BRACE YOURSELVES!" as he threw that punch. bounce/ :shock: Wait---- PUNCH??? :mrgreen: ::P
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non-believer :arrow: confused/ :roll: smiley_spider :?: typing/ OMG! :idea: :arrow: /white flag/ :arrow: believer bounce/
L.O.V.E. forever
I could not have pictured it better. :) This Hoax Formula is very, very CUTE!
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Hi MJonmind :)
So true about people in general. That would have been me a few years ago when my kids were at home. For me the hoax happened at a good time!
Ahh... Its her, you are so refreshing to read!
Thank you for the nice compliment! bearhug
And I think MJ's timing of this Hoax was perfect, too. Just five years ago everyone would have, maybe, been too busy with all their kids still in school, or too young, imho. It is way kind of MJ I think, to wait until he had "Grand-Fans"(the children of fans), grown enough to play Hoax with us, and understand the heavier stuff about the world, too. 8-) michael-jackson/
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I have tried to find a feasible date on a Thursday 2012 that would fit with the numerology, but I didn't succeed. Well, my brithday next year (September 20, 2012) is on a Thursday :shock: A great date, but unfortunately it doesn't fit with the numerology. But could you surprise me Michael, please? bow/
If Mike doesn't BAM this year, then I hope something out of the ordinary would happen, as you said. Perhaps Murray would 'starve' in 'jail' and hence he would order lots of pizza!! lolol/
L.O.V.E. and hugs to you!
Well...there are four Thursdays in June 2012 which are divisible by 7. I haven't looked yet, but there might be something that really meant something to MJ which happened on these dates.
From June 25 2009 through June 28 2012, all inclusive, is 1100 days.
October 27 is the last Saturday before Halloween, and reckoning inclusively, is 1221 days from Lights Out, June 25 2009, but I don't think he would Bam after Elvis, who may come out to his own party!!!!!!
I'll have to look to see if any of these dates are significant to MJ in History.
There is also, that he can come back ANY day he wants to if he BAMs at Disneyland, because I read, I think, that they have fireworks every night there! And it IS, after all, the Happiest Place On Earth. ;D
This isn't a Thursday, but March 20th is a significant day. On the 20th day of January 1961 John Kennedy took Office. It was a lovely dream, not to be. Exactly 1000 days later he was murdered. Mar 20 is 999 days from June 25 2009, non inclusive, and 1000 days, inclusive. Just brainstorming...Maybe this has to do with some Truth...some revelation of things the world never knew. :shock:
Two more (probably corny) things:
2012 is a LEAP year. ha ha ha ha ha You KNOW how he likes to leap onstage...it would be cool to Leap back to life, ya know? (without being dangerous, pale/ or getting hurt, Joker)
If he comes back next Spring, it will be a spring and a leap. Maybe there really IS two of him. afraid/ afraid/ (Just kidding)
albino/
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MICHAEL PLEASE! geek/
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Oh my gosh, those pics are so cute...especially that little doggie.
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ahaha @MJFAN, I hope MJ BAMS anytime between 12pm-1am AEST (daylight savings time)
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I'd love to see that, a jail break for Murray, maybe we can have Prison Break 2 (loved that show)...or like you said, highway chase, which I'm guessing your taking a stab at OJ...lol...jk
Yeah I heard it came out in Sep, but supposedly (prob rumours, but I beg to differ) Jackie K mentioned some things about LBJ, the assassination etc. and wanted it released 50 years after her death, which seems to me she wanted to protect her children, but now JFK Jr is gone :( and there is only Caroline (which reminds me, I have to tell you something about JFK Jr just in case I forget #Sticky note)...but yeah that seems like she had things to tell...but on another note, did you know they are releasing the recordings or 30min of additional recording of the time JFK's body was taken on Airforce One (it will probably be on the JFK Library later this year or early next year, because it's being auctioned off first).
Yes I remember TR's post...I guess it is harder for the non believers because they believe MJ is dead and plus we have a cushy job, the non believers are holding up signs outside the courthouse, chanting, TRYING to find Justice and we are sitting behind the computer LO(ur)AO.
NO don't say that...you just made MJ change the BAM date....JKS...by the way, it's great to see you posting again HER.
But I do agree with the members who think MJ will comeback this year...no wait then MJ won't BAM, MJ will come back in 2012 or beyond, that way we have all our bases covered and he has to BAM this year...isn't that how it works?...lol
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WOW ITS HER you do remember TR ;D.
I mean pranksta gangsta :lol:
I miss his "mysterious" presence. He was a nice guy.
But I am almost 100% sure TR metamorphosed into Front :shock:!
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WOW ITS HER you do remember TR ;D.
I mean pranksta gangsta :lol:
I miss his "mysterious" presence. He was a nice guy.
But I am almost 100% sure TR metamorphosed into Front :shock:!
Honest question: What makes you so sure?....I do know that TR said something about re-birth and out came front, but then the recording that he did etc. seems a little off...but it was a 'coincidence' that front appeared the same time TR told about a re-birth, I really don't know what to think.
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WOW ITS HER you do remember TR ;D.
I mean pranksta gangsta :lol:
I miss his "mysterious" presence. He was a nice guy.
But I am almost 100% sure TR metamorphosed into Front :shock:!
Honest question: What makes you so sure?....I do know that TR said something about re-birth and out came front, but then the recording that he did etc. seems a little off...but it was a 'coincidence' that front appeared the same time TR told about a re-birth, I really don't know what to think.
I had a post on Back thread about this.
I am almost 100% sure because of TRs promise to give "birth" in 3 weeks and it happened that Front appeared exactly in 3 weeks and because of some similar ideas they both share.
Of course, it is only my humble, and I really mean HUMBLE opinion. I could be very wrong but as far as I am concerned, I am not wrong. Well but if I am wrong, I am wrong as so be it.
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Who trusts the recordings? They can be so easily manipulated.
And BTW, I do not think any of them is MJ. My humble opinion again.
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It is weird what you, Gina, decide is 100% truth and what you are forever uncertain on.
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It is weird what you, Gina, decide is 100% truth and what you are forever uncertain on.
Yes bec I know :shock: I guess I'm a weirdo ;D
Why bec, you have a different opinion? I mean you don't think Front is TR? You know something more about it?
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Will the sentencing be televised or streamed live? Just curious. It’s so S.I.L.E.N.T. since the verdict, with the exception of Murray’s movie.
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I have found this person on Twitter. I guess you could day their posts saddens me. Nowdays we just never know who to believe when they post subjects. But this tweeter got my attention and I just wanted to share with you all what they said. I hope MJ comes back physically. I just want to SEE him. He doesnt have to perform for us ever again. I just want to see him with his fam and be happy. But anyways here is a few of this persons posts.
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@mjlara77 You will find out in time then. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly mj stands 4 change, revolution of thought & humanity. movies is a medium 2 get the message to every nook corner of world
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So if u continue to wait for physical proof right in front. then its ur choice. Keep looking 4 a come back but know he is already here.
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@_Catherine1969_ Yes, MJ is coming back, Jacksons know that & his projects are in progress.
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This has been told. MJ is alive & working but not willing 2 come back as MJJ. MJ aka mjviva
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_ I know u tend to be volatile in tweets. Hell waits 4 judgement. Keep waiting & u will realize the truth 1 day. MJ aka mjviva
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@MoonlightJ_ u r saying what MJ told u all 2 yrs back. Now he is also saying what he intends to do. wait is ur decision. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly @Eddicito Dont b upset. Michael is very much alive. I'm sorry u feel disappointed. MJ aka mjviva
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_ 2 yrs worth of investigation is enough 2 tell that MJ is alive. U wont hear him say that the way u think it should be. MJ aka mjviva
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Now you all are informed. Keep waiting 4 the man the way u want him or let him b what he wants 2 b. Choice is yours. MJ aka mjviva
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@Eddicito Movies & all creation. MUsic and music videos, broadway shows and television. MJ aka mjviva
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@aliceverdino No, not as the entertainer and stage performer. MJ aka mjviva
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@_Catherine1969_ MJ is coming back but not the way u expect. There's no change in that. 2011 is come back year. MJ aka mjviva
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@_Catherine1969_ come back to what?? Abuse? Are u sure fans could protect him. could they in CM trial. MJ aka mjviva
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@Nefy1956 No, fans dont know. They now know after the 2 yrs search. Now they know who the man is. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly The hoax was set up to tell u all MJ is alive. AND 2 tell what happened 2 him from then to now. Du understand? MJ aka mjviva
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Truth is painful. MJ is alive & in connection with u all. wont u forgive the physical absence as his mind & heart is with u. MJ aka mjviva
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@Atlantis7771 MJ's name was not cleared even after the 2005 verdict. But MJ never gave up. He wont give up ever. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly To tell u all what happened, u had to b taken on this journey. Yes, mindcontrol is involved in all creation. MJ aka mjviva
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@whosbackmjsback MJ wanted 2 tell u all what happened. He wanted 2 share his truth & now he has. MJ aka mjviva
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You must understand, MJJ has been distorted by media. His face projected as sin. How long the artist can suffer. Can u tell? MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly If u looked 4 a man then.... But if u look for the human who want 2 work 4 the world then you have him. MJ aka mjviva
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MJ will always tell u in signs his presence in his work. Maybe u wont feel bad but relieved at this freedom. MJ aka mjviva
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So the hoax is legit. MJ is alive. MJ involved all of u in the adventure. U have not lost the creator or the man. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly MJ is coming out in 2011. The full on frontal creative process is MJ's bam. U will always see him. MJ aka mjviva
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@sanmikey Yes, the dancing man in gold pants has retired to die. The creator lives. MJ aka mjviva
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@dazzle367 MJ hates what was done to that naive, simplen hearted entertainer. He reputation was killed. MJ aka mjviva
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@dazzle367 MJ is a recluse. If u want to know he still creates 4 u then u'll feel happy. MJ aka mjviva
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@MJJGermany No dear. I wish we had different news. But u will know in time this is authentic. MJ loves you all. MJ aka mjviva
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@3strellazul MJ attended the verdict. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly so you will always have MJ with you but just not the way u expect. MJ aka mjviva
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@4MJonly MJ does not trust his own. Money can b a blessing & a plague. But music & movies will continue. MJ aka mjviva
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This just saddens me because i feel like they are saying we will never physically SEE him ever again confused/ confused/ confused/ confused/
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mjviva also said Murray would reveal the return date in the recent documentary and you heard any date? Because I didn't. mjviva must be a fake.
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I surely hope so friend. Ive kinda stepped away from this all and just peek at my twitter and the main topics here but today i just had to share what i had found on twitter because it disturbed me so. Thanks for your reply.
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Just to remind you all (and because I LOVE this post), this is what Front had to say:
These trojan horse jockey-clowns are riding alongside the "circus" waving their "In The Know" flags…..it's only a matter of time before they are DISmounted, falling flat on their wanna-be a33es. Those who state "facts" & dates "beyond a shadow of a doubt"---utterly PREPOSTEROUS!---are merely dancing in their OWN twisted shadows.This sick tactic MUST stop.
They are ignorant but not dumb, and they know that MJ and his camp will not take the position at this point in time (obviously!) of refuting their "solid" theories and/or "facts". and so they run with it like bandits on crack.
"I KNOW something but I can't tell you HOW I know…wink wink wink"….. "THIS is what's gonna happen and WHEN it's gonna happen…wink wink wink"..… "I have inside information but, ssshhhh!,, it's a secret!….wink wink wink".
wink---mother---wink---f*cking---wink, GET THE F--K OUT!
UGH.
I am SICK of the blind leading the innocent into the depths of their own dark swamp that REAKS of fabrication and deception.It smells like too many people have pissed in that swamp. These people need to have their lips duct-taped SHUT…or shall I say DUCK-taped, for the QUACKS that they are!
The cacophony of their nonsensical babbling is starting to sound like a broken record---and it's getting quite annoying and LAME. Even an audience full of zombies who can't follow a rhythm would request a refund at this point! Not a "show" that I would advise taking a Front row seat in.
It's not necessary to call anyone out---they are full aware of who they are---so I shall say this….. If you ninny-hammers want to entertain yourselves by writing deluded fairytales for your OWN bedtime stories so you can get off on your "knowledge" and "facts"…so be it. But do NOT cast your illicit "spotlight" on TRUE fans…..because when the curtain goes down and your "ACT" is over and the REAL curtain ascends…..we shall SEE who the true star is. And in case you have forgotten who that is, let me remind you---the name Michael Jackson ring a bell?
WAKE UP---your "show" is OVER………and they didn't even serve snacks during intermission. Now THAT's lame!
Everyone here deserves to be treated with respect. D*cking around the fans is NOT a good illustration of mutual respect now is it!
Words to take to heart----> Stop using Michael Jackson's fans as puppets!
In the END, the only (puppet) string you'll be seeing is the one tied around your finger---to REMIND you to check yourself in the mirror and "make that change".
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Omg I'm so confused! :( If he won't come back physically how else will he come back?
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mjviva also said Murray would reveal the return date in the recent documentary and you heard any date? Because I didn't. mjviva must be a fake.
mjviva is a fake informer, seriously
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mjviva also said Murray would reveal the return date in the recent documentary and you heard any date? Because I didn't. mjviva must be a fake.
mjviva is a fake informer, seriously
yeah just remember his tweets about the children. I don't think Michael would ever come out to say those things about the children, even if they might be partially true.
@Souza reading that post the first time was indeed refreshing errrr
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Omg I'm so confused! :( If he won't come back physically how else will he come back?
If he won't come back he must be dead.
But when you think about it, the press will tear him apart for faking his death. I really can't imagine how he planned the comeback.
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Omg I'm so confused! :( If he won't come back physically how else will he come back?
If he won't come back he must be dead.
But when you think about it, the press will tear him apart for faking his death. I really can't imagine how he planned the comeback.
Well Gina...didn´t they for ALL his life......?!
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well yes, you might say he's used to it /overreacting/
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Exactly...and just imagine...what a pleasure to pay them back now ;D
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i dont think that mj cares what the press think of him at this stage. he is probably aware that there will be some haters who dont get it. but i think that the reason behind DH, once he reveals will counteract any remaining small fibre of credibility that the media have and all credibility will go to mj.
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I agree Australian and Front's post made me LOL. It's so true too, as if an extra *wink-nudge* will make people believe them.
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As I mentioned in a recent post, the silence is defeating now, but for me November 29th MAY be the BAM. If it isn't then it is around the corner IF this is truly a death hoax (there is nothing more to do at this point and the dancers contracts are almost expired PLUS Uri Geller put his foot in his mouth in April and almost admitted Michael was coming to his show to reveal all but then Uri must have gotten a got call and that stopped) we will soon know! Michael is too "loud" to hide for so long :) I hope this deafening silence brings the storm soon!
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As I mentioned in a recent post, the silence is defeating now, but for me November 29th MAY be the BAM. If it isn't then it is around the corner IF this is truly a death hoax (there is nothing more to do at this point and the dancers contracts are almost expired PLUS Uri Geller put his foot in his mouth in April and almost admitted Michael was coming to his show to reveal all but then Uri must have gotten a got call and that stopped) we will soon know! Michael is too "loud" to hide for so long :) I hope this deafening silence brings the storm soon!
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Defeating is a typo. I mean deafening...
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When does the dancers contracts end @conclusiveMJ?
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When does the dancers contracts end @conclusiveMJ?
illusion. you love the points abt dancers contract... i have seen you mention it on other threads... or perhaps it was on chat.
am i right in saying you seem to feel that bam will happen whilst dancers are still under contract. not so much for more performances, but for confidentiality purposes. that dancers are staying 'in character' or 'mums the word' on DH, til the end of their contract to TII. i thought this is what i gathered from you pointing out the dancers contract, that you believe bam will happen whilst dancers are still contracted and therefore bound to confidentiality - correct me if i am wrong.
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When does the dancers contracts end @conclusiveMJ?
illusion. you love the points abt dancers contract... I have seen you mention it on other threads... or perhaps it was on chat.
am i right in saying you seem to feel that bam will happen whilst dancers are still under contract. not so much for more performances, but for confidentiality purposes. that dancers are staying 'in character' or 'mums the word' on DH, til the end of their contract to TII. i thought this is what i gathered from you pointing out the dancers contract, that you believe bam will happen whilst dancers are still contracted and therefore bound to confidentiality - correct me if i am wrong.
No your right Aussie, and yes I have mentioned it before, I don't know if I mentioned it recently or in chat (chat is a blur...lol)...but since TII was not supposed to be, or going to be a concert (in my opinion) then I think it is apart of the hoax production...now I don't know if some or none of the dancers are in the know, but yes that's why I'm asking about the contracts...
...because when the contracts end they can talk about everything and anything related to TII, so I thought possibly MJ will BAM before these contracts end...I know it doesn't make sense, but that's how I think of it...that would at least determine the RANGE (time) of the BAM...but I don't remember hearing the end of the contract, was it July 2012?
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i get what you are saying. and i also agree that TII was never going to be a concert. i just dont know if mj would time bam, or centre bam around people who are essentially being used as 'tools' (no disrespect intended) in his production.
i guess what i am trying to say is that i think that this is quite planned, when bam happens it isnt going to be lolly pops and roses. i think it will be shocking, ground breaking and good / ugly... i think that because of these factors, (again when, IMHO) bam will be executed at precicely the perfect time. perhaps it will be 'within' the time constraints of the dancers contracts, but i dont think bam time will be planned just around the dancers contracts.... if that makes sense.
again, this is only an opinion. and i could be wrong. and am happy to be wrong. again, i humbly aknowledge that there is much i do not know.
also... mj talks abt 4 years in TII. however the contracts were two years right? or am i wrong. can anyone help with this?
EDIT: checked other threads. two yr contract is mentioned. also did a google search. several articles about cirque raise the possibility that the contracts 'could' have been extended. but i cant see a definitive answer / statement abt this.
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I agree that the BAM may not all be roses.....could be more like guns and roses, IMHO. Perhaps the BAM will include the arrest of some war criminals previously known as heads of state and the exposure of some not too pleasant details about how our world has been run.
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This BAM you people are talking about..it's such an exciting idea but always puzzling to me.
How on earth can this BAM happen? You guys have any ideas? I must confess I can't imagine how Michael can do it without having to face multiple problems.
I hope he figured out a way...
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This BAM you people are talking about..it's such an exciting idea but always puzzling to me.
How on earth can this BAM happen? You guys have any ideas? I must confess I can't imagine how Michael can do it without having to face multiple problems.
I hope he figured out a way...
Since when isn´t he able to go through all kind of problems? Since when is he not mastermind enough to consider everything?
Where´s the point in pulling off the hoax and elaborating all details, if he´s not sure of the outcome, the goal and ALL the consequences?
Please.....if he wouldn´t be 100 % sure of what he is doing, he would not have done it at all!
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IMHO only. i think mj can and will get thru problems that arrise due to bam. i believe he has people with power on his side. allies.
i beleive (if its the media you are worried about) he will receive all credibility and the media will lose theirs. also remember vendetta. people shouldnt be scared of their governments, governments should be scared of their people. power in numbers. when mj bams and peoples eyes are opened and they learn the truth, the power will have shifted.
also imagine when he bams with his message. most of the music industry that has been 'claiming' respect for mj the last two years, will back him. and their fans will also follow.
just my opinion tho.
i could elaborate. but not going to. lots of other threads discuss this in detail.
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I agree that the BAM may not all be roses.....could be more like guns and roses, IMHO. Perhaps the BAM will include the arrest of some war criminals previously known as heads of state and the exposure of some not too pleasant details about how our world has been run.
I love Guns N Roses...lol...but yeah I agree it's going to somehow tie back to government corruption and from that point alone, I don't think that will be smooth sailing, it's gonna be chaotic...I don't think they will just lie down and let themselves get arrested do you? or do you think they will have no choice?
@Aussie, yeah I totally get what your saying, I think the same, I don't think it is dependent on their contracts but I think the BAM will somewhat 'fall' in between the contract ending....but I don't know if the performs were only contracted for 2 years, I thought it was 4...but I'm sure the media would of said something, anything MJ they jump right on don't they?
@MaryK I agree 100% (on another note, I love all the positivity in all your posts ::P)
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Correct the contract is a 2 year non-disclosure agreement that began in 2009. The 4 years are to save the planet based on the Mayan prediction that the world would end in 2012 and it is in part to our indifferences that lead to wars and corporate pollution that leads to global natural disasters. Now we've got 2 years to get this right or it's irreversible.
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Correct the contract is a 2 year non-disclosure agreement that began in 2009. The 4 years are to save the planet based on the Mayan prediction that the world would end in 2012
yeah, am aware of that. sorry, i wrote my question wrong. am aware of the 4 years and what it means. and was pretty sure the contracts were 2 years, but just needed that verified. thanks for you info though conclusivemj. sorry my gramma was poor. :)
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I love Guns N Roses...lol..
I was sure since I first saw your ID. Me too.
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I love Guns N Roses...lol..
I was sure since I first saw your ID. Me too.
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@MaryK I agree 100% (on another note, I love all the positivity in all your posts ::P)
Thank you use_your_illusion! You know....logic is good, feeling is better. I just trust my intuition.
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Correct the contract is a 2 year non-disclosure agreement that began in 2009. The 4 years are to save the planet based on the Mayan prediction that the world would end in 2012 and it is in part to our indifferences that lead to wars and corporate pollution that leads to global natural disasters. Now we've got 2 years to get this right or it's irreversible.
Sorry, conclusivemj, but from what I get about the date 21.12.2012 there is not so much written about the 'world to end' - fact is that the mayan calendar ends that date and the profecy says that a new era will begin.
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heartwarrior. A new era will begin if we spread love and awareness of our world and what is important.
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Final update 6.5 (6+5=11, 6x5=30) by TS: posted on 11/30/10. Final paragraph of final update was in regards to final redirect on 11/30/10 of a clock with hands at 11:30.
11. Eleven Thirty
I have titled this post update #6.5 (not update #7), because this is primarily a continuation of update #6. And yes, it’s also because I said that update #7 will probably be after BAM. Does this mean that there will still be more updates and/or posts, before update #7 (6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.95, 6.96, 6.999, etc)? I won’t say absolutely no, but most likely not.
Repeatedly, I’ve said that I would not do much if any more (posts or redirects); but I kept watching, and I saw a need and wanted to help. But now, it has come to the point where I would rather say and do no more, than continue causing endless controversy that is not going anywhere.
I will be watching, and if anyone wants to make a serious attempt at the $999 reward: I will certainly either respond to it or else send the money; but they must be serious calculations. Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again. If I have been wrong on anything, time will tell. And if I’ve been right, time will also tell—the truth will prevail.
Instead of doing a whole new post: I may on a rare occasion make a comment or two in a thread that was posted by someone else (and probably redirect to that comment, so people will who are following TIAI will see it). But redirects will not be daily anymore; those who still don’t accept TIAI/TS probably never will, no matter what I redirect to or whatever I write in a post, so there’ really s no point.
The hoax doesn’t rely only on TS anyway; as many have said, they believed in the hoax before TS ever posted anything. In fact, don’t you think there is good reason why I didn’t post any new thread—or even make a comment in an existing thread—until more than two months after the “death”? If I had posted immediately after 6-25-2009, then people could claim that TS is the reason for believing in the hoax; but it did not happen this way, for a good reason.
This update 6.5 (6 + 5 = 11) was posted at 11:30 PM (CA time), on 11-30 (November 30). Also, a few days ago TIAI redirected to a clock with the hands at 11:30 {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16037}. What is the significance of this? As usual, the redirect had more than one meaning.
The Thriller album was released on 11-30 {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album)}; and Eliza’s case was previously scheduled for 11-30, although it is now rescheduled for 12-14 {http://http://chancerydata.shelbycountytn.gov/pls/chweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=CH-09-1696}.
Speaking of Thriller, 11:30 (PM) is “close to midnight ... the midnight hour is close at hand”. So 11:30 also represents near the end (end of the day, or end of the hoax, or end of the world, etc).
And finally, we are now about half way between 2009 and 2012 (“four more years”); and 11:30 is half way between 11:00 and 12:00. The clock is ticking, and there is no time for unimportant or unkind controversy. Yes, some things are important and must be discussed—even if we don’t agree; but even then, disagreements should be done respectfully. It’s all for LOVE!
“And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26). I have said the following more than once before, but people seem to quickly forget it; so I am going to end by repeating this one more time. Jermaine said: “it’s all going to come out” (and this was in the context of the “airport” slip-up); until it does all come out, keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!
11/30/11 is the 888th day of the hoax (since 6/25/09) and the 333rd day of the year. 888+333 = 1221
888th day=Elvis is the key to the hoax (told to us more then once)
8= the number of infinity.
11/29/11, or sentencing day also is an 11/11/11, or 11/2+9/11.
Add one day to 11/29/11 or one day of simmering you get 11/30/11.
11/30/11 is the 29th (2+9=11) anniversary of the release of Thriller album and the 30th year of Thriller inclusive---->11-30).
11/30/11 is Wednesday... "see you next Wednesday" --Thriller Monster.
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11/30 is day 888 of the hoax, day 333 of the year -> 1221
888:
The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism.
Symbol of the Redemption.
By its composition, this number is considered as perfect.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php
333:
Transistion, Change, Travel
To awake (physically or spiritually)
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu22.php
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I absolutely LOVE how these dates/numbers line up with 11/29 and 11/30. I just don't want to get my hopes up too high in case nothing 'major' happens.
But Gawd almighty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If/when I do allow myself to just dream for a sec or two...it sure feels great to think we could be 'on the brink'.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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11/30 is day 888 of the hoax, day 333 of the year -> 1221
888:
The Christ, the resurrection, the baptism.
Symbol of the Redemption.
By its composition, this number is considered as perfect.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu888.php
333:
Transistion, Change, Travel
To awake (physically or spiritually)
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu22.php
Souza,
Very interesting numerology indeed. Thanks so much for pointing this out. However, I seem to recall something about 'inclusive reckoning' being important at the end of the hoax. That said, my understanding of this method of calculating time INCLUDES the first date of the calculation. In this case, the date would then be 11/29, rather than 11/30! which would give us the added 11/11/11 point of intersection. What do you think?
What do you think?
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11/29/11 sentencing + 1 day of simmering= 11/30/11 thank you back for that little gem.
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11/29/11 sentencing + 1 day of simmering= 11/30/11 thank you back for that little gem.
You just answered your own question, lol.
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I love this numerology!!!!!
From Bec:
11/30/11 is the 888th day of the hoax (since 6/25/09) and the 333rd day of the year. 888+333 = 1221
888th day=Elvis is the key to the hoax (told to us more then once)
8= the number of infinity.
11/29/11, or sentencing day also is an 11/11/11, or 11/2+9/11.
Add one day to 11/29/11 or one day of simmering you get 11/30/11.
11/30/11 is the 29th (2+9=11) anniversary of the release of Thriller album and the 30th year of Thriller inclusive---->11-30).
11/30/11 is Wednesday... "see you next Wednesday" --Thriller Monster.
Related to this is an interesting picture posted by Paris on her Twitter - she is wearing a t-shirt with 33 on the front and it looks like a 3 on the sleeve........333!!!
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv8s5uY2ny1qj1bfjo1_500.png)
Also - I wrote this in another thread a few days ago, but it's worth posting here too:
Maybe the "1 day of simmering", which has been a constant theme throughout the entire hoax, could ALSO be to account for the time differences across the world.......after all "we are all one, we are a family"
So 29th November at 8:30am when the sentencing is to take place in the USA it will be the 30th November in other parts of the world (like here in Oz).
As we know November 30th is the date when Thriller was released.
What is even more interesting is that from 25th June 2009 to 30th November 2011 it is 2 years, 5 months, 6 days (inclusive)....recognise those numbers?????
25/6
8-) :mrgreen:
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Bec and Adi your equations equal BAM!!! moonwalk_/ party/
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I agree conclusivemj, I like this thread lol 8-D.
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11/30/11 is the 888th day of the hoax (since 6/25/09) and the 333rd day of the year. 888+333 = 1221
888th day=Elvis is the key to the hoax (told to us more then once)
8= the number of infinity.
11/29/11, or sentencing day also is an 11/11/11, or 11/2+9/11.
Add one day to 11/29/11 or one day of simmering you get 11/30/11.
11/30/11 is the 29th (2+9=11) anniversary of the release of Thriller album and the 30th year of Thriller inclusive---->11-30).
11/30/11 is Wednesday... "see you next Wednesday" --Thriller Monster.
Wooooooooooooooow. /bravo/
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Just a correction......it is actually November 29th which is the 333rd day of the year, not November 30th.
However - it still ties in nicely with the sentencing day being then etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_29
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Just a correction......it is actually November 29th which is the 333rd day of the year, not November 30th.
However - it still ties in nicely with the sentencing day being then etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_29
I used this: http://www.easysurf.cc/ndate2.htm
and I put January 1st into the start date and November 30th into the end date, and it says 333 days :?
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Just a correction......it is actually November 29th which is the 333rd day of the year, not November 30th.
However - it still ties in nicely with the sentencing day being then etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_29
I used this: http://www.easysurf.cc/ndate2.htm
and I put January 1st into the start date and November 30th into the end date, and it says 333 days :?
I can see what you mean but it seems that site calculates the difference, or how many days between two dates, so that is why it came up with 333 as the difference between Jan 1st and Nov 30th.
However, if you count the total number of days from Jan 1st to November 30th - then November 30th is actually the 334th day of the year and Nov 29th is the 333rd (in a non-leap year that is).
:)
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Just a correction......it is actually November 29th which is the 333rd day of the year, not November 30th.
However - it still ties in nicely with the sentencing day being then etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_29
I used this: http://www.easysurf.cc/ndate2.htm
and I put January 1st into the start date and November 30th into the end date, and it says 333 days :?
I can see what you mean but it seems that site calculates the difference, or how many days between two dates, so that is why it came up with 333 as the difference between Jan 1st and Nov 30th.
However, if you count the total number of days from Jan 1st to November 30th - then November 30th is actually the 334th day of the year and Nov 29th is the 333rd (in a non-leap year that is).
:)
That's already been addressed. Read my post before you find something to be falsely disappointed about.
Inclusive/exclusive counting systems work symbiotically together in all aspects of the 11/30/11 numerology.
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It's 29 already here errrr
soon there are 29 years since Thriller
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Just a correction......it is actually November 29th which is the 333rd day of the year, not November 30th.
However - it still ties in nicely with the sentencing day being then etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_29
I used this: http://www.easysurf.cc/ndate2.htm
and I put January 1st into the start date and November 30th into the end date, and it says 333 days :?
I can see what you mean but it seems that site calculates the difference, or how many days between two dates, so that is why it came up with 333 as the difference between Jan 1st and Nov 30th.
However, if you count the total number of days from Jan 1st to November 30th - then November 30th is actually the 334th day of the year and Nov 29th is the 333rd (in a non-leap year that is).
:)
That's already been addressed. Read my post before you find something to be falsely disappointed about.
Inclusive/exclusive counting systems work symbiotically together in all aspects of the 11/30/11 numerology.
I am not getting my hopes up about any dates at all to be "falsely disappointed about".
Just pointing out interesting things about the dates 29 and 30 November and that 2 different websites give different number of days.
Simple.
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The difference is inclusion/exclusion which is what the numerology I posted already takes into account. I'm not telling you or anyone else to get their hopes up, I'm making a record of the facts regarding the numerology surrounding those dates. The way you post it makes it sound as if I missed something. I did not. Souza and I have been talking about these dates since before day 777. I am writing it down to keep track of it in one official place. We didn't miss this, you don't need to phrase your words in such a way as to suggest that we did or people will get the wrong impression. Dates and numbers are confusing enough. Please make sure you have reviewed the information and fully understand all of it.
For the record---->your website comment/concern is irrelevant to the numerology.
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Final update 6.5 (6+5=11, 6x5=30) by TS: posted on 11/30/10. Final paragraph of final update was in regards to final redirect on 11/30/10 of a clock with hands at 11:30.
11. Eleven Thirty
I have titled this post update #6.5 (not update #7), because this is primarily a continuation of update #6. And yes, it’s also because I said that update #7 will probably be after BAM. Does this mean that there will still be more updates and/or posts, before update #7 (6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.95, 6.96, 6.999, etc)? I won’t say absolutely no, but most likely not.
Repeatedly, I’ve said that I would not do much if any more (posts or redirects); but I kept watching, and I saw a need and wanted to help. But now, it has come to the point where I would rather say and do no more, than continue causing endless controversy that is not going anywhere.
I will be watching, and if anyone wants to make a serious attempt at the $999 reward: I will certainly either respond to it or else send the money; but they must be serious calculations. Other than that, I am not obligated to do any redirects or posts; it is my own choice, and no amount of complaints or anything else is going to force me to post again. If I have been wrong on anything, time will tell. And if I’ve been right, time will also tell—the truth will prevail.
Instead of doing a whole new post: I may on a rare occasion make a comment or two in a thread that was posted by someone else (and probably redirect to that comment, so people will who are following TIAI will see it). But redirects will not be daily anymore; those who still don’t accept TIAI/TS probably never will, no matter what I redirect to or whatever I write in a post, so there’ really s no point.
The hoax doesn’t rely only on TS anyway; as many have said, they believed in the hoax before TS ever posted anything. In fact, don’t you think there is good reason why I didn’t post any new thread—or even make a comment in an existing thread—until more than two months after the “death”? If I had posted immediately after 6-25-2009, then people could claim that TS is the reason for believing in the hoax; but it did not happen this way, for a good reason.
This update 6.5 (6 + 5 = 11) was posted at 11:30 PM (CA time), on 11-30 (November 30). Also, a few days ago TIAI redirected to a clock with the hands at 11:30 {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=16037}. What is the significance of this? As usual, the redirect had more than one meaning.
The Thriller album was released on 11-30 {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album)}; and Eliza’s case was previously scheduled for 11-30, although it is now rescheduled for 12-14 {http://http://chancerydata.shelbycountytn.gov/pls/chweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=CH-09-1696}.
Speaking of Thriller, 11:30 (PM) is “close to midnight ... the midnight hour is close at hand”. So 11:30 also represents near the end (end of the day, or end of the hoax, or end of the world, etc).
And finally, we are now about half way between 2009 and 2012 (“four more years”); and 11:30 is half way between 11:00 and 12:00. The clock is ticking, and there is no time for unimportant or unkind controversy. Yes, some things are important and must be discussed—even if we don’t agree; but even then, disagreements should be done respectfully. It’s all for LOVE!
“And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26). I have said the following more than once before, but people seem to quickly forget it; so I am going to end by repeating this one more time. Jermaine said: “it’s all going to come out” (and this was in the context of the “airport” slip-up); until it does all come out, keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!
11/30/11 is the 888th day of the hoax (since 6/25/09) and the 333rd day of the year. 888+333 = 1221
888th day=Elvis is the key to the hoax (told to us more then once)
8= the number of infinity.
11/29/11, or sentencing day also is an 11/11/11, or 11/2+9/11.
Add one day to 11/29/11 or one day of simmering you get 11/30/11.
11/30/11 is the 29th (2+9=11) anniversary of the release of Thriller album and the 30th year of Thriller inclusive---->11-30).
11/30/11 is Wednesday... "see you next Wednesday" --Thriller Monster.
I'm getting dizzyyy (http://bestsmileys.com/fainting/1.gif)
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I understand the numerology fully.
To reiterate what I was saying in my post - November 30th is actually the 334th day of the year and November 29th is the 333rd day of the year. I was just pointing out this fact.
In your original post you indicate that 30th November is 333rd day of the year - and it isn't. Get a calender and count from Jan 1st (counted as Day 1) to November 30th and November 30th is the 334th day of the year.
11/30/11 is the 888th day of the hoax (since 6/25/09) and the 333rd day of the year. 888+333 = 1221
888th day=Elvis is the key to the hoax (told to us more then once)
8= the number of infinity.
11/29/11, or sentencing day also is an 11/11/11, or 11/2+9/11.
Add one day to 11/29/11 or one day of simmering you get 11/30/11.
11/30/11 is the 29th (2+9=11) anniversary of the release of Thriller album and the 30th year of Thriller inclusive---->11-30).
11/30/11 is Wednesday... "see you next Wednesday" --Thriller Monster.
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It is if you are counting days from, aka exclusively. Same as 777 day, 8/10/11 or 8/11/11 depending on how you count. This time around it's 888 day, 11/29/11 or 11/30/11. The same is true of 333 day.
Edited to say: we are saying the same thing.
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Tomorrow I will be in the same court on my jury duty, same floor, next door of the same room where CM and Jackson will be. I'll try to get there sooner, so I would be able to observe something and later share with you here.
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Numerology is great isn't it! Numbers don't lie, and they are extremely important. I can't wait until we move to the next "phase"!
Sending you all my LOVE!!!
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Tomorrow I will be in the same court on my jury duty, same floor, next door of the same room where CM and Jackson will be. I'll try to get there sooner, so I would be able to observe something and later share with you here.
PLEASE try and take photos/video and post.
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@scorpion. all the best tomorrow.
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Sorry I haven't read the entire thread but does anyone know if the sentencing will be live on TV? I sure hope so! :)
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Yes msg, it will be on TV...abc7.
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It will also be on HLN starting at 11:30 am, for those also interested.
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I think TMZ are live streaming it as well.
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I think TMZ are live streaming it as well.
They said they will stream it. It has to start at 8:30...what time is that for me ?!?
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@Gina, it is about 7 hours from now, so just count from that.
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I think TMZ are live streaming it as well.
They said they will stream it. It has to start at 8:30...what time is that for me ?!?
Gina - I am not sure where you are but currently in LA it's 2am on November 29th.
I hope that helps you.
:)
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I think TMZ are live streaming it as well.
They said they will stream it. It has to start at 8:30...what time is that for me ?!?
Gina - I am not sure where you are but currently in LA it's 2am on November 29th.
I hope that helps you.
:)
And here is was 12:04 pm when you posted this, so it's 10 hours earlier in LA. I know it now, thank you.
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Have i missed that streaming?
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Have i missed that streaming?
It's about to start in 30 minutes...we're in the chatroom
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I think TMZ are live streaming it as well.
They said they will stream it. It has to start at 8:30...what time is that for me ?!?
crash/ In Italy are 5,00 pm errrr errrr bounce/........agitation /white flag/ bounce/ /judge/
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Sorry guys, could not get more info nor pictures. When I got to the court, media and fans were outside. After I passed check point, I waited a little bit on the 1st floor, then Katherine, La Toya Jermain and some more people with them arrived with security who did not allow me to take a picture,they passed by me, I said hello to Katherine and she replied. She is very nice woman and sad. :( Then they went to the 9th floor that was blocked and door locked (I checked). Then I had to go to my floor for my duty, which was not the same floor as I thought. That's pretty much it.
Attachments too large, I have to resize to post; later.
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Another false hoax date! /overreacting/ :lol:
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Another false hoax date! /overreacting/ :lol:
Yes MJFAN7,this was another LESSON learned ,lol lolol/!!! Do not beLIEve in BAM dates,because you're gonna burn yourself.Nobody knows when this HOAX will be over,so it's unfruitful to even put a BAM date,from my point of view ofcourse albino/ !!!CASE CLOSED .
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Yep, I already said I wasn't expecting a BAM appearance and that the next time someone predicts a date they shouldn't listen to them. When or if it happens we'll know for sure when it transpires. At this point though? People need to stop falling into the trap of a predicted BAMSDAY.