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Title: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on November 07, 2011, 01:31:48 PM
Hi everyone,

actually I am speechless. Just watch the video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT2I2ppAL2k&feature=related
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Heartsong on November 07, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
That's not so shocking diggyon. Not everyone believes there is a god. All are entitled to express their feelings.

And I'm sure if there is a god he would not hold it against anyone who honestly feels their lack of faith is due to lack of definitive scientific evidence...

We here should all know by now that simply claiming something does not make it true.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 01, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
Songs aren't normally written by new artists. They're what's determined to be a reflection of what people want to hear.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on January 01, 2012, 06:48:39 PM
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Songs aren't normally written by new artists. They're what's determined to be a reflection of what people want to hear.


Or the message they want to do to reach people, ..i do not know if Rihanna is atheistic but would have to ask you about all of the symbolism in their videos
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: ilovemjforever on January 01, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
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Songs aren't normally written by new artists. They're what's determined to be a reflection of what people want to hear.


Or the message they want to do to reach people, ..i do not know if Rihanna is atheistic but would have to ask you about all of the symbolism in their videos
i dont think she is an atheist,she just worships satan,that is her God,she is very confused,like so many artists.
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Post by: paula-c on January 01, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
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Songs aren't normally written by new artists. They're what's determined to be a reflection of what people want to hear.


Or the message they want to do to reach people, ..i do not know if Rihanna is atheistic but would have to ask you about all of the symbolism in their videos
i dont think she is an atheist,she just worships satan,that is her God,she is very confused,like so many artists.





I thought that
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 01, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
The song wasn't written by Rihanna, it was written by Jay-Z (which isn't very shocking at all). Who knows if she even knew what she really was singing...
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 01, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
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Songs aren't normally written by new artists. They're what's determined to be a reflection of what people want to hear.


Or the message they want to do to reach people, ..i do not know if Rihanna is atheistic but would have to ask you about all of the symbolism in their videos

I would like to say this: it's the artists, animators, costumers, set designers, that are designing things that are "COOL," to put into videos. Most are innocent about NWO, Illuminati, or satan. They're going for impact, what's going to win awards, and do their best to make Rhianna look fantastic!

So - much more is being read into something that isn't there, in all seriousness.

It often begins with the writer handing ideas to the storyboard/concept artist (who's often a comic book artist, or animator). Watch LOTR video, or any video games, and see what kind of research goes into details on costumes, concepts and designs - there's no ill intent. Just trying to do good product, and make the singer look great!

If we do stuff that gets torn apart for things that just aren't there, I don't know what to say. You have a virtual team, with an art director in charge, each and every time. It's a group effort, remember that.

With this particular song, I call the analysis BS. It's a DEEP story, in that she'll always shelter the person with an Umbrella - like a BLANKET. The rest, is LYRICAL, no more. You can look up voice exercises - she's simply playing with the words, drawing them out. NO MORE. It sounds cool, and fun to dance to. That's why she filled it up with drawing the vowels out. There's no meaning whatsoever, with what she's done here.

Do you see what this person is doing!? Exactly what was done to Michael! Planting seeds of discord, out of a fun, light-hearted song. What a mean & cruel thing to do, when there should be LOVE!
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aidan_81 on January 01, 2012, 09:50:50 PM
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I would like to say this: it's the artists, animators, costumers, set designers, that are designing things that are "COOL," to put into videos. Most are innocent about NWO, Illuminati, or satan. They're going for impact, what's going to win awards, and do their best to make Rhianna look fantastic!
 no ill intent. Just trying to do good product, and make the singer look great!

- absolutely. I know this from personal experience [lol not with Rhianna sadly].
 You observe visual "trends" and make everything look "trendy', "cool", catchy, bright,
you know, so all the "trendy" people would enjoy the looks, the set, the lighting.
We did it without thinking "oh, and let's put the giant glittery circle around triangle and add golden star because we say hello to satan!" or something.
We did that because something [lol triangle was always my fave shape btw, am I born with
devilish intentions in mind?!  afraid/] looks really cool and you go creative and set won't go unnoticed and client will be happy.
Sometimes clients will tell you what they want - and you don't really over-analyze it.
You do your job, and job is to make things look impressive and stylish and, if possible, tasteful.
I'm talking only about visual aspects of say music videos and all the glittery photography
you see in magazines. I don't know how they write songs, but often artists are not
involved with anything at all - they are taken to the set, filmed, then they go back home,
they have no word. I bet same with lyrics. Definitely so with younger artists. Not every
artist is MJ you know.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: SEHF on January 01, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
lol.. somebody needs to learn their Hebrew!
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MJFan4444 on January 01, 2012, 10:52:55 PM
This is as bad as that one dude that did a vid on youtube saying the Beat It was slang for masterbate.  So instead of "Just Beat it, Beat it, Beat it, Beat it, No one wants to be defeated..."  To him it means "Just Masterbate, Masterbate, Masterbate, Masterbate..." 

I love Umbrella, and I don't hear anything close to what this video maker claims.  I think people go way overboard trying to find anything. 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 02, 2012, 02:46:08 AM
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Hi everyone,

actually I am speechless. Just watch the video!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT2I2ppAL2k&feature=related

Lol not again  geek/  :lol:   bangbang :mrgreen: !!!! She didn't say a THING about "that",lol,people always want to HEAR more than it truly IS.Stop being trapped by DOGMA and start Thinking for yourself.Tell me Diggyon do you really believe all this stuff  bangbang  :mrgreen:  ?????
This is the same thing like that shit about Michael being killed by Illuminati ,what a stupidity  :lol:  :roll: !!!! If Michael was really killed by Illuminati why are we here in the first place,why are we still believing Michael is ALIVE and well???? What a CONTRADICTION again,isn't it  geek/  :lol: ??????
Follow your HEART and INTUITION and Diggyon and you will see it's much better than believeing this ....( :roll:)  !!!! Take care  :) .
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MichaelSalt on January 02, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
Its Garbage I think. Sorry. I believe there are some people "behind the curtain". But this is overdone! umbre-LA ALLAH ?? :D or all these reversed songs? I think some people are   :? :D
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 02, 2012, 06:26:34 AM
First of all, I personally don't like Rihanna at all. Her videos are more like porn films to me. I believe that she is doing anything just for money and fame. In addition to that, she worships the devil.
I believe the artist has a very bi responsibility. He is always followed by his fans. So if the artist is like Rihanna, we will then have a generation that is brainwashed. There are so many artists who refuse to shoot such video clips. Let's take Michael as an example. Have you ever seen him in such a clip???
By the way, he is not the only one. There are not much clean video clips nowadays because Hollywood wants it tat way. And those artists who are willing do anything for money are more than welcome. That's why we have people like her.
Period
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: PureLove on January 02, 2012, 07:00:28 AM
Satanic bastards.  :evil:
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Adi on January 02, 2012, 08:13:27 AM
@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 02, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
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@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:

It's enough for me to see her doing all that kind of Illuminati gestures. Is she is ignorant of what she is doing???
I doubt!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ozuF3nK3w0[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwpKVQA1cQ&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjowDuPbzI[/youtube]


Can anyone here proove that Rihanna has nothing to do with the Illuminati?????
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 02, 2012, 11:59:49 AM
I think Re Re is being mind controlled and puppeted for profit.  She started off very wholesome and she in my opinion was one of the most strikingly beautiful people I had seen in the business.  When I heard that she was a JZ disovery my son and I wagered a bet that before long she would become an illuminati princess and devil worshipper.  Voilla!  She is a symbol now, not a real person.  I’m so hoping that doesn’t happen to Justin Beiber.  So far he is still pretty innocent.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 02, 2012, 12:32:36 PM
I still remember this song by Rihanna: "Please don't stop the music"

The last verse reminds us of someone we know very well!! But does anyone know what it really means????? (Mama se mamasa mamacusa....)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd8jh9QYfEs[/youtube]

Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 02, 2012, 02:10:48 PM
Yes, I've seen Michael jutting his hips like Elvis, and it being called satanic. Come on, Artists are NOT RESPONSIBLE for what listeners do, for goodness sake! Each and everyone on this planet is responsible only for themselves!

Remember the first crotch grab of Michael!? It freaked out the grownups so badly, and the rest of the world was giggling that he dare do it!

Rhianna is a sexy woman, deemed the SEXIEST woman in the world, by MAXIM. Good for her, not enough African-American Women get any sort of awards, without taking their clothes off.

FYI - What signs? You think anybody really puts any thought into that? They see what OTHERS do on TV and the Internet, and go, "Hey, I'll do it too, looks cool!" Simple as that.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 02, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
In the music industry a young artist who is seen to have great money making potential, grooming is done to fit what ever mode deemed necessary to appeal to the largest fan base.    The more money/time invested in promoting that artist, the more he/she is expected to conform to what ever plan that is set out for him.  When that artist decides he no longer is willing to do that and desires to be in control of his own creativity, he either leaves that company and finds one willing to allow that or become an independent. 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MaryK on January 02, 2012, 04:57:12 PM
Seriously...I don´t want this to sound sloppy, airy, naive or even disrespectful but...do you really think that God cares?
People singing along to a chorus which allegedly is saying "There is no God", not even knowing what the words mean in their own language and not even knowing that there is this kind of message hidden in the song...will they be doomed? I don´t think so....
He´s not listening to what your radio is playing but to what your heart and prayers and deeds tell about you in life.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 02, 2012, 06:07:38 PM
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@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:

It's enough for me to see her doing all that kind of Illuminati gestures. Is she is ignorant of what she is doing???
I doubt!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ozuF3nK3w0[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwpKVQA1cQ&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjowDuPbzI[/youtube]

Can anyone here proove that Rihanna has nothing to do with the Illuminati ????

You know what ??? I have a better question for you instead of that above  ;)  .
What in the heck illuminati means  geek/  ???? Can you answer me on that ????
Oh wait I think I have an ideea what illuminati means  :mrgreen: or what it "represents"  geek/  :lol:  :lol: !!!!


(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs059.snc3/14640_1270965741963_1464473223_741478_7655643_n.jpg)

Happy New Year to you and take care  bearhug  !!!
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on January 02, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
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@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:

It's enough for me to see her doing all that kind of Illuminati gestures. Is she is ignorant of what she is doing???
I doubt!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ozuF3nK3w0[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwpKVQA1cQ&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjowDuPbzI[/youtube]

Can anyone here proove that Rihanna has nothing to do with the Illuminati ????

You know what ??? I have a better question for you instead of that above  ;)  .
What in the heck illuminati means  geek/  ???? Can you answer me on that ????
Oh wait I think I have an ideea what illuminati means  :mrgreen: or what it "represents"  geek/  :lol:  :lol: !!!!


(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs059.snc3/14640_1270965741963_1464473223_741478_7655643_n.jpg)

Happy New Year to you and take care  bearhug  !!!







In the link explains in detail since its inception what they are and who the Illuminati, i am not going to copy and paste that is a little long

http://secretarcana.com/hiddenknowledge/the-order-of-the-illuminati-its-origins-its-methods-and-its-influence-on-the-world-events/
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 02, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
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@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:

It's enough for me to see her doing all that kind of Illuminati gestures. Is she is ignorant of what she is doing???
I doubt!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ozuF3nK3w0[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwpKVQA1cQ&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjowDuPbzI[/youtube]

Can anyone here proove that Rihanna has nothing to do with the Illuminati ????

You know what ??? I have a better question for you instead of that above  ;)  .
What in the heck illuminati means  geek/  ???? Can you answer me on that ????
Oh wait I think I have an ideea what illuminati means  :mrgreen: or what it "represents"  geek/  :lol:  :lol: !!!!


(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs059.snc3/14640_1270965741963_1464473223_741478_7655643_n.jpg)

Happy New Year to you and take care  bearhug  !!!







In the link explains in detail since its inception what they are and who the Illuminati, i am not going to copy and paste that is a little long

http://secretarcana.com/hiddenknowledge/the-order-of-the-illuminati-its-origins-its-methods-and-its-influence-on-the-world-events/


(http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-illuminati.jpg)
Before you will say a BAD thing about the lovely lady in the picture think at Michael's words  :mrgreen: :

Quote
Before you judge me,try hard to LOVE me !!!!!
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on January 02, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
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@diggyon - I must have missed that bit - but how exactly do you know "she worships the devil" ? You seen her doing it or something?
 :roll:

It's enough for me to see her doing all that kind of Illuminati gestures. Is she is ignorant of what she is doing???
I doubt!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ozuF3nK3w0[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwpKVQA1cQ&feature=related[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjowDuPbzI[/youtube]

Can anyone here proove that Rihanna has nothing to do with the Illuminati ????

You know what ??? I have a better question for you instead of that above  ;)  .
What in the heck illuminati means  geek/  ???? Can you answer me on that ????
Oh wait I think I have an ideea what illuminati means  :mrgreen: or what it "represents"  geek/  :lol:  :lol: !!!!


(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs059.snc3/14640_1270965741963_1464473223_741478_7655643_n.jpg)

Happy New Year to you and take care  bearhug  !!!







In the link explains in detail since its inception what they are and who the Illuminati, i am not going to copy and paste that is a little long

http://secretarcana.com/hiddenknowledge/the-order-of-the-illuminati-its-origins-its-methods-and-its-influence-on-the-world-events/


(http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-illuminati.jpg)
Before you will say a BAD thing about the lovely lady in the picture think at Michael's words  :mrgreen: :

Quote
Before you judge me,try hard to LOVE me !!!!!





I have nothing against the lovely lady of this photo, .. ;)but i don't like your message and what it represents, ... in spite of what you can say MJ i have my own criterion /white flag/ 8)
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Suzy7 on January 02, 2012, 08:35:13 PM
 Millions of people don't believe in a God, and they have that right. However, just because someone doesn't believe in any God; it doesn't mean that they are people without morals or ethics, any more than someone professing a religion or belief in God means that one does have them.

 I actually love Rhianna and she very recently said she does believe in God whom she calls "Jah" (she is West Indian), which means Jehovah, and is very common amongst people from the west indies to use as God's name. So this actually isn't accurate.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 02, 2012, 08:36:29 PM
I personally have a real problem with women allowing themselves to be portrayed as sex slaves and lust demons.  It speaks to a society that is willing to accept anything in the name of freedom to express.  Anything goes.  That’s total bullshit.  :roll: That on one hand we can talk about God and the Bible and what it teaches and then turn around and say that some of these lewd videos and portrayals are okay makes me crazy.  If there is an illuminati, then it will always win as long as society keeps salivating for more, more, more of the same.  The freakier the better.  Ga-Ga is a helluva talented artist.  I would even say she is gifted with talent.  However, some of her videos turn me completely off.  She doesn’t have to go there.  The same with some of the other videos out there where every body has to be nearly naked, roll their asses and open their legs and slide down poles, even imaginary ones.  It’s disgusting and in my opinion sets us back 100 years.  Art is art.  What I see is anything but.  Maybe I’m old school.  Call it what you want, but I can’t get with women allowing themselves to become objectified.  I don’t care how much money it garners.  Never have and never will.  Sexy is one thing.  Suggestive and lewd is quite another. 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: ilovemjforever on January 02, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
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Yes, I've seen Michael jutting his hips like Elvis, and it being called satanic. Come on, Artists are NOT RESPONSIBLE for what listeners do, for goodness sake! Each and everyone on this planet is responsible only for themselves!

Remember the first crotch grab of Michael!? It freaked out the grownups so badly, and the rest of the world was giggling that he dare do it!

Rhianna is a sexy woman, deemed the SEXIEST woman in the world, by MAXIM. Good for her, not enough African-American Women get any sort of awards, without taking their clothes off.

FYI - What signs? You think anybody really puts any thought into that? They see what OTHERS do on TV and the Internet, and go, "Hey, I'll do it too, looks cool!" Simple as that.
I have to disagree,she knows exactly what those signs mean,and she is very much into work shipping Satan.Why is she dressed like a slut in her videos?why is she always in the news about groping her young female fans at her concerts?Not to mention all the evil themes in her videos.I do feel sorry for her,because i believe she is a victim of the industry such as Britney Spears.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: onthewingsoflove on January 02, 2012, 11:24:06 PM
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I personally have a real problem with women allowing themselves to be portrayed as sex slaves and lust demons.  It speaks to a society that is willing to accept anything in the name of freedom to express.  Anything goes.  That’s total bullshit.  :roll: That on one hand we can talk about God and the Bible and what it teaches and then turn around and say that some of these lewd videos and portrayals are okay makes me crazy.  If there is an illuminati, then it will always win as long as society keeps salivating for more, more, more of the same.  The freakier the better.  Ga-Ga is a helluva talented artist.  I would even say she is gifted with talent.  However, some of her videos turn me completely off.  She doesn’t have to go there.  The same with some of the other videos out there where every body has to be nearly naked, roll their asses and open their legs and slide down poles, even imaginary ones.  It’s disgusting and in my opinion sets us back 100 years.  Art is art.  What I see is anything but.  Maybe I’m old school.  Call it what you want, but I can’t get with women allowing themselves to become objectified.  I don’t care how much money it garners.  Never have and never will.  Sexy is one thing.  Suggestive and lewd is quite another.

From your mouth to God's ears! Thank you!

Stay Blessed!
OnTheWingsOfLove
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on January 03, 2012, 01:21:40 AM
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Sexy is one thing.  Suggestive and lewd is quite another.

From your mouth to God's ears! Thank you!

Stay Blessed!
OnTheWingsOfLove

I agree 100%!  Even poor Carrie Underwood with her beautifully innocent personality is made to sing vampy songs and sing with her legs spread apart on stage.  You can tell by her face that she is not happy about it but has to do it.
I especially hate it when women are "spanked" on stage and are crawling around the floor and climbing up mens legs.  This is what  children are watching!  Sex and evil sells.....and the music industry promotes it as much as they can.   As you can already see, Justin Bieber with this charge of getting a girl preggs....tell me that wasn't set up to taint his innocent image!
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 03, 2012, 01:56:26 AM
Did Justin ever deny having sex, or just getting her pregnant?
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aidan_81 on January 03, 2012, 02:34:13 AM
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I personally have a real problem with women allowing themselves to be portrayed as sex slaves and lust demons.  ....If there is an illuminati, then it will always win as long as society keeps salivating for more, more, more of the same.  The freakier the better.  ..... The same with some of the other videos out there where every body has to be nearly naked, roll their asses and open their legs and slide down poles, even imaginary ones.  ....  Call it what you want, but I can’t get with women allowing themselves to become objectified.  ....  Sexy is one thing.  Suggestive and lewd is quite another.


- totally agree. BTW , again from personal working experience, yes, public is to blame once it's
corrupt into praising lewd things. But showbiz and media first push that on the public, intentionally
reducing that tolerance level. Pushing bad tacky things that majority of people would
not fancy much couple decades ago. And once we tolerate something, get used to it, we don't mind and "eat" that
willingly, some even demanding for more obscene stuff, because "just regular lewd" doesn't work anymore.
Public is made stupid and low, intentionally. They push that on us, and at first many refuse
to accept things, but as generations change, more things get accepted as "normal".

I believe it is the plan, and not just business plan. Somewhere it stopped being about money only I'm afraid. Well, it's still about money but it's going too far.

I love Rhianna, she's gorgeous young woman, but I love her initial image, not oversexed
one she gets now. Gone too far, and trust me - I'm sooo not a prude. And still, I'm worried about her.
As you say, no need to go there. Enough talent to stay decent and popular! Why going there...
It's not just money.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Bee Bee on January 03, 2012, 10:57:25 AM
This is entertainment. It's supposed to be flashy, it's supposed to be provocative. It doesn't mean anybody worships Satan.

Nobody needs to prove Rihanna "has nothing to do with the Illuminati". You would have to prove such an organization exists first, and even then it would be up to you to prove she is a part of it, not the other way around. You can't prove Michael is innocent of molesting children either, you have to prove he's guilty. You can't prove there are no invisible pink unicorns, yet, they probably do not exist. Still, if I wanted to I could probably find thousands of symbols indicating their existence, as well as the existence of an international invsible pink unicorn conspiracy. Seriously.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aintnosunshine on January 03, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
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This is entertainment. It's supposed to be flashy, it's supposed to be provocative. It doesn't mean anybody worships Satan.

Nobody needs to prove Rihanna "has nothing to do with the Illuminati". You would have to prove such an organization exists first, and even then it would be up to you to prove she is a part of it, not the other way around. You can't prove Michael is innocent of molesting children either, you have to prove he's guilty. You can't prove there are no invisible pink unicorns, yet, they probably do not exist. Still, if I wanted to I could probably find thousands of symbols indicating their existence, as well as the existence of an international invsible pink unicorn conspiracy. Seriously.

Well said, BeeBee. And you are just right! 

The burden of proof have those who claim something, not the other way round; i. e. the negative or absence of something (that is a global legal principle).


And about showing "sexyness" on stage:

I do believe that Michael invented the "just acting" / performing / even faking sexyness on  stage which comes with a huge restriction; "don`t (ever dare to) touch!".

That`s a form of art. Very unique. And very Michael"ish" (given his early experiences).
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aintnosunshine on January 03, 2012, 12:51:16 PM
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This is entertainment. It's supposed to be flashy, it's supposed to be provocative. It doesn't mean anybody worships Satan.

Nobody needs to prove Rihanna "has nothing to do with the Illuminati". You would have to prove such an organization exists first, and even then it would be up to you to prove she is a part of it, not the other way around. You can't prove Michael is innocent of molesting children either, you have to prove he's guilty. You can't prove there are no invisible pink unicorns, yet, they probably do not exist. Still, if I wanted to I could probably find thousands of symbols indicating their existence, as well as the existence of an international invsible pink unicorn conspiracy. Seriously.

Well said, BeeBee. And you are just right! 

The burden of proof have those who claim something, not the other way round; i. e. the negative or absence of something (that is a global legal principle).


And about showing "sexyness" on stage:

I do believe that Michael invented the "just acting" / performing / even faking sexyness on  stage which comes with a huge restriction; "don`t (ever dare to) touch!".

That`s a form of art. Very unique. And very Michael"ish" (given his early experiences).

Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on January 03, 2012, 03:27:38 PM
I would like to clarify that i have no problem with people who took the decision to be atheists, each person is free to believe or not believe, ....free will
 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 03, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
Let's quickly take apart the video on the dollar bill, and the stuff on the Illuminati, shall we:
In his book America's Occult Holidays Marquis tries to convince us that Christmas was "an ancient occult ceremony dedicated to the birthday of Tammuz, the son of the cofounders of the occult, Nimrod and Semiramis." Marquis tells us that Christmas was forbidden by the early American pilgrims. Marquis goes on to claim that "Easter... is in fact the celebration of the return of Semiramis into her reincarnated form of the spring goddess" and that "Halloween... is the deadliest holiday ever celebrated in human history... which is dedicated to the Celtic lord of the dead." Of course, Christmas originated out of the old Yule (winter solstice) traditions, not out of the Middle East. Easter is named for the Saxon fertility Goddess Eostre and has nothing to do with Semiramis. Halloween was never dedicated to the Celtic lord of the dead.

Marquis's book Secrets of the Illuminati, encapsulates the disparate elements that he is trying to paste together in his many books and presentations. Secrets of the Illuminati lists various symbols that Marquis has interpreted or combined in outlandish ways using peculiar logic to come up with even stranger conclusions. They all come together in a seal for the "New World Order" which Marquis has created in Secrets of the Illuminati. This seal consists of a triple circle with a Star of David in the middle. In this seal Marquis lists six things: The Illuminati, the Masons, the Black Pope, Rock 'n Roll, the House of Rothschild, and the Two Seals of Our Doom. One of these is placed at each point of this star. Inside the perimeter of the outermost circle Marquis lists: "8 Sabbats, Catholocism [sic], Rosicrucians, Satanism, D&D." Between each of these words is a series of Hebrew letters. Superimposed over the center of this is a three quarter side view of a rectangular altar bearing three symbols: An inverted crucifix and the two sides of the Great Seal of the United States. Above the sigil is the words "I Witch" in red, surmounted by an "all seeing eye" in a triangle. Red blood streams down from the letters i, t and c in the word Witch, around the circle in which the name "Illuminati" is written and onto the top of this altar and overflows out of the lower left corner of the page. One can summarize his interpretation of this seal as follows:

The "all seeing eye" at the top of the diagram, which is described as, the "Eye of Horus," is supposed to be Satan looking down on all the activity being done on his behalf.

NOTE: Remember this one? We encountered the Utchat or "Eye of Horus" in amongst Warnke's nonsense in an earlier article. It is not a symbol of Satan. One of the reasons that people like Marquis go after the Great Seal of the US is that they are misinterpreting the symbols and mottos depicted upon it, particularly those on the reverse side, which depicts an unfinished pyramid surmounted by an eye in a triangle, and surrounded by the Latin expressions Annuit Coeptis and Novus Ordo Seclorum. The first Latin phrase was inspired by the Roman poet Virgil, who lived in the first century BCE. In the Aeneid, book IX, line 625, is the phrase: "Jupiter omnipotens, audacibus annue coeptis." (All-powerful Jupiter, favor [my] daring undertakings.) Also, in Virgil's Georgics (book I, line 40) are the words: "Da facilem cursum, atque audacibus annue coeptis." (Give [me] an easy course, and favor [my] daring undertakings.) Charles Thomson changed the first person imperative "annue" to the third person "annuit." In the motto Annuit Coeptis, the subject of the verb must be supplied, and the translator must also choose the tense. We know that Thomson said: "The pyramid signifies Strength and Duration: the Eye over it & the Motto allude to the many signal interpositions of providence in favour of the American cause." The eye is therefore the missing subject, and the translation of Annuit Coeptis would be: "The Eye of Providence is favorable to our undertakings."

The second Latin phrase, Novus Ordo Seclorum, was also chosen by Charles Thomson. In the fifth line of Eclogue IV, Virgil also wrote the phrase "Magnus ab integro seclorum nascitur ordo." This has been translated in several ways, including, "A mighty order of ages is born anew", "The great series of ages begins anew", "the ages' mighty march begins anew" and "the majestic roll of circling centuries begins anew." Thomson coined the phrase "Novus ordo seclorum", which means "a new order of the ages". People like Marquis chose to mistranslate this phrase as "a new secular world order."

There is no "New World Order," just in the over active imaginings of writers and artists. Need I say more?

As for Carrie Underwood and her legs open? That's pretty amusing. Anyone here ever stood up on a stage in pumps or platforms, in a dress, walk around and sing? It's called, "Keeping balance," "Trying not to fall," it isn't provacative, if you don't get a crotch flash, now is it?

If Michael could grab his crotch, why does anyone care if a poor girl in high heels and short dress walks around without falling on stage!?
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 03, 2012, 04:52:32 PM
I am not speaking particularly of worhipping satan I’m talking about cheapening yourself for money and negative attention and power, not for your benefit, but for someone else’s.  She can worship a cow as far as I’m concerned. 
that’s not my point.  One has nothing to do with the other.  When we stop accepting or daughters and sisters and lovers allowing a male driven industury to exploit them, that’s when things will change.  Until then, we can expect more, more, more of the same.  When Michael is on stage he is sexy in a tasteful way.  He never stoops to having women roll up on him nor did he do anything even close to that to any women in his videos.  Though I’m sure there were many willing to do it at the drop of a hat. He didn’t need that to prove he was the best.  The same for the Beatles, Elvis, and so on.  That in my opinion is wht a real entertainer is about.  Don’t need nothing else.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 03, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
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I am not speaking particularly of worhipping satan I’m talking about cheapening yourself for money and negative attention and power, not for your benefit, but for someone else’s.  She can worship a cow as far as I’m concerned. 
that’s not my point.  One has nothing to do with the other.  When we stop accepting or daughters and sisters and lovers allowing a male driven industury to exploit them, that’s when things will change.  Until then, we can expect more, more, more of the same.  When Michael is on stage he is sexy in a tasteful way.  He never stoops to having women roll up on him nor did he do anything even close to that to any women in his videos.  Though I’m sure there were many willing to do it at the drop of a hat. He didn’t need that to prove he was the best.  The same for the Beatles, Elvis, and so on.  That in my opinion is wht a real entertainer is about.  Don’t need nothing else.

This is exactly my opinion. Thank you for posting that.
Nowadays the more women expose their bodies the more they become "talented, successful and famous".
There are these videos called "Killing us softly". They are about the exploitation of women by advertisers. This is the reason why young girls are brainwashed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSXDCMSlv_I[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zudgbjFvvo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-SQ385Zek&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6i9sxatgVM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]

 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 03, 2012, 05:44:23 PM
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I would like to clarify that i have no problem with people who took the decision to be atheists, each person is free to believe or not believe, ....free will

I agree. But if this was intentional (and if it really does translate to that)  I do have a problem with it because she would have known everybody was going to sing along to that. It's catchy! So it's like tricking everyone into singing that there is no God.  argue/
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 03, 2012, 05:56:19 PM
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I would like to clarify that i have no problem with people who took the decision to be atheists, each person is free to believe or not believe, ....free will

I agree. But if this was intentional (and if it really does translate to that)  I do have a problem with it because she would have known everybody was going to sing along to that. It's catchy! So it's like tricking everyone into singing that there is no God.  argue/

Very well said MJFAN7. If she is keeping this to herself, then it's ok. But she is making everyone sing the song say this. So this is called betrayal. 
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: paula-c on January 03, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
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I would like to clarify that i have no problem with people who took the decision to be atheists, each person is free to believe or not believe, ....free will

I agree. But if this was intentional (and if it really does translate to that)  I do have a problem with it because she would have known everybody was going to sing along to that. It's catchy! So it's like tricking everyone into singing that there is no God.  argue/




I believe that in the music industry some messages are not by chance
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Suzy7 on January 03, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
 I can't believe the judgement and hypocrisy taking place here. Only God can jugde humans, hence "he without sin cast the first stone."

 We aren't living in the 18th century, women are allowed to be empowered with their sexuality and be sexy; to think otherwise is sexist and hypocritical. For example, MJ grabbed his crotch, thrusted his pelvis, did that make him "lewd" or "satanic"? No, so why are women being condemned? No one here has the right to label someone you don't know "slutty, gross, devilish", based upon your OWN personal beliefs. This is all subjective. Michael was attacked for the more aggressive approach he had had later on in his career; some thought of him as "lewd" and others did not. Why? Because it's subjective.

 Humans were created as sexual beings; each one of us embody sexuality and are sexual creatures. Sexuality is in fact, our second basic instinct next to that of survival! Do some do too much at times? Sure, in my opinion, but if you don't like something--don't watch; but don't be prejudice because it's ignorant.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Adi on January 03, 2012, 08:12:47 PM
^^^ great post!

Couldn't agree more Suzy7
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on January 03, 2012, 11:03:12 PM
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^^^ great post!

Couldn't agree more Suzy7

isnt she great!?!? always types exactly what i want to say...

deepest respect for you suzy7 - and yes agree adi, top post!

respect/
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aidan_81 on January 03, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
They influence kids and teens. That is the danger. I don't want my 11 y.o. niece to
go down with 15 older boys because she starts to believe this is cool because her
fave celeb showed that as "oh so hot and cool, everyone gonna love you!" in her music video.
It's okay to do what you want to do when you're adult and do it in your private life. Whatever.
It's not okay to push such life style on your audience which is NOT only adult gays
but 10-14 y.o. children who blindly repeat all the "trends" you set, ANY trends,
as we go lower and darker, trends will be too far really soon. That's all. Not all parents
are good enough to explain their growing kids where art ends and real life begins.
You can be sexy and "iconic" without selling too much graphic sex. We nearly see pornography in
music videos and those who say "Oh, that's a bit too much!" are labeled "judgmental old prudes"
asap and dismissed. I understand that. "Don't watch!" - I really do not. But you come across such
things accidentally and you see kids watching that and "taking notes". Maybe I'm "judgmental old prude" but I don't want pre-teen girls to think this is what woman should be about. I don't
want greedy low showbiz makers to form their young minds like that.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MJFan4444 on January 04, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
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They influence kids and teens. That is the danger. I don't want my 11 y.o. niece to
go down with 15 older boys because she starts to believe this is cool because her
fave celeb showed that as "oh so hot and cool, everyone gonna love you!" in her music video.
It's okay to do what you want to do when you're adult and do it in your private life. Whatever.
It's not okay to push such life style on your audience which is NOT only adult gays
but 10-14 y.o. children who blindly repeat all the "trends" you set, ANY trends,
as we go lower and darker, trends will be too far really soon. That's all. Not all parents
are good enough to explain their growing kids where art ends and real life begins.
You can be sexy and "iconic" without selling too much graphic sex. We nearly see pornography in
music videos and those who say "Oh, that's a bit too much!" are labeled "judgmental old prudes"
asap and dismissed. I understand that. "Don't watch!" - I really do not. But you come across such
things accidentally and you see kids watching that and "taking notes". Maybe I'm "judgmental old prude" but I don't want pre-teen girls to think this is what woman should be about. I don't
want greedy low showbiz makers to form their young minds like that.

But what about the parents that are good enough to talk with their children and invite discussion on industry influences and body image?  I mean, I think the industry overstretches as much as the next person, but I want free right to choose what it is I am free to watch and not watch.  What some call art, others are offended.   But neither side is more right or more wrong.  I like Rhianna.  Some of her stuff is pushing it, but just because of her current trend doesnt mean I turn totally off of her.  If I don't want to watch something, I turn the channel, or the dial.  My kids and I talk a lot.  I don't shy away from topics such as sex, or God.  I want to be their role model, but they also have the freedom in being who they are.  If my kid is looking to Rhianna or a basketball player or even Michael Jackson as the end all and be all of "role model," I'm failing somewhere.  I KNOW I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aidan_81 on January 04, 2012, 05:07:23 AM
I worry about Rhianna, that's all. Never said she's "lost cause" or "disgusting one".
She's still gorgeous lady with a voice and moves, but I can't see why she takes it too far
as she is good enough to stay popular without selling sex too much. If she was my niece,
that's how I feel. I worry about her.

As long as most parents are not too good {they are not too good}, it does matter
what the kids watch/see. Usually teens lose connection with parents and go by themselves,
picking up all the wrong role models. And media is more than happy to supply them with such.
Young artists should stay awake and understand who is their audience. When younger artist
turns 35, audience normally changes [adults stay, teens go] and it's time to do more "art"
 if they are so desperate to do that "art". But they are not anymore :P and their audience
is already married with kids and doesn't fancy that "art" too much as well.
We can't always blame public for consuming something gladly, some things are being pushed
on public to change us, works faster with tweens and teens. Yeah, parents to blame.
But I do not praise media for happily "taking care" of kids separated with parents
by typical misunderstandings. It's in a way like people selling street drugs to kids who
just wonder around, looking for their way in life.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 04, 2012, 07:30:00 AM
Call me old fashioned, call me whatever you like, but I still find it inappropriate to call a woman "sexy" or "hot". It reminds me of the Middle Ages and it shows very clearly how men are dealing with that issue. No matter how educated and how successful a woman is in real life, she is always judged by her figure and how "sexy" and " hot" she is. For me this is nothing more but a very clear discrimination. Sometimes "men" hire only beautiful secretaries, or women who expose their bodies. Why??? Because men want to be pleased, that's all. Would it be appropriate for a boss to call his employee " sexy' or "hot"? Would his secretary accept these kinds of descriptions from her colleagues? I have a colleague at work who once told me: "I walk on the street and look at women. If I find a beautiful woman I continue looking at her. And I find an ugly woman I just look away." This is the way many men think. A woman nowadays is nothing but a reason for pleasure, no matter in which country we live in. Men are always the reason for women to act that way. So women use this kind of "weapon" to get whatever they want. This is taught everyday to little children through "artist" like Rihanna and co. Hollywood knows how to mindcontrol people, as sexual pleasure is a human nature after all. So they are using these methods to take control over people's minds. Girls should become sex slaves to please men and men should demand more and more sex slaves. I guess the picture of innocent women does not exist anymore, thanks to Hollywood.
Period   
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: diggyon on January 04, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Rihanna is not the only artist in the show business who is behaving this way. This shows clearly in my opinion the system they are following. There is no need to mention who they are...
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Suzy7 on January 04, 2012, 08:08:13 PM
 Lol, love u Adi and Aussie.

 Exactly MJFAN4444, it's up to parents and other family members to raise their own children; entertainers are not their parents. I do feel role models are essential in the media, but there is nothing anyone can do if some kids don't have these caretakers. I think as citizens of this world we should all care for eachothers children and eachother more. Unfortunately, this world isn't like that, but atleast we have people like MJ to provide some positivity.   

 I do think as I've said before, there is an agenda in the media that is dark; but it's up to you what you will or will not take in. And yes, I am aware there are some things we can't control, but no one can hide their children from the harsh realities of the world forever.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 04, 2012, 08:40:58 PM
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They influence kids and teens. That is the danger. I don't want my 11 y.o. niece to
go down with 15 older boys because she starts to believe this is cool because her
fave celeb showed that as "oh so hot and cool, everyone gonna love you!" in her music video.
It's okay to do what you want to do when you're adult and do it in your private life. Whatever.
It's not okay to push such life style on your audience which is NOT only adult gays
but 10-14 y.o. children who blindly repeat all the "trends" you set, ANY trends,
as we go lower and darker, trends will be too far really soon. That's all. Not all parents
are good enough to explain their growing kids where art ends and real life begins.
You can be sexy and "iconic" without selling too much graphic sex. We nearly see pornography in
music videos and those who say "Oh, that's a bit too much!" are labeled "judgmental old prudes"
asap and dismissed. I understand that. "Don't watch!" - I really do not. But you come across such
things accidentally and you see kids watching that and "taking notes". Maybe I'm "judgmental old prude" but I don't want pre-teen girls to think this is what woman should be about. I don't
want greedy low showbiz makers to form their young minds like that.

Nothing's really changed, in reality. Parents ARE responsible for their children, period.

Look to Disney, Nickelodeon (and Spongebob swill), if you want stuff that isn't going to be sexy. Yet, it will be hyperactive.

Sadly, even in comic books, we've been having a fight with the Porn Industry, thanks to Michael's buddy, Gotham Chopra! Putting out comics based on established porn stars, is NOT my idea of helping the situation.

There are many people, in the movie, tv, music, comics, etc. industries, who do believe there's absolutely no reason to go past the PG-13 self limiter. One of Chopra's comics thought it was cool, by the director, Woo. Suuuure, page after page of cussing and racial slang that offended even me. Bunch of talking heads, that didn't move the story forward.

I can see why Virgin dropped the line, and why Michael's comic never came out. R in violence, many of us will deal with, but not violence towards women or minorities.

So, there are many who do have lines.

I think perhaps, what's going wrong with rock vids is that CDs are going goodbye. Welcome, singles only, and downloads are the future. CDs and DVDs are being phased out, much to even my dismay. Because when I pay for something, I like to own it literally.

Let Rihanna find her place, and be comfortable.

I myself, tossed my TV in 2009, and haven't gone back. I don't watch the mind-numbing junk that resides there.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 08, 2012, 06:08:07 PM
Quote
Tink
January 03, 2012, 04:10:48 AM »
Yes, I've seen Michael jutting his hips like Elvis  :oops:  :lol:, and it being called satanic. Come on, Artists are NOT RESPONSIBLE for what listeners do, for goodness sake! Each and everyone on this planet is responsible only for themselves!   /bravo/

Remember the first crotch grab of Michael!?  :roll:  It freaked out the grownups so badly  :lol:  :lol: :mrgreen: , and the rest of the world was giggling that he dare do it  :roll: !

Rhianna is a sexy woman, deemed the SEXIEST woman in the world, by MAXIM. Good for her, not enough African-American Women get any sort of awards, without taking their clothes off.

FYI - What signs? You think anybody really puts any thought into that? They see what OTHERS do on TV and the Internet, and go, "Hey, I'll do it too, looks cool!" Simple as that.

Great post ThINK ,thank you very much  respect/  !!!!!
Well it seems that Michael's "crotch grab" is already old news ,cause Rihanna had the best Teacher ,lol  lolol/ !!!! She really "loves" Michael very much  ;) .Why only man are allowed to do it,and not woman,may I ask   :idea:  :mrgreen: ??? What Michael did is exactly the same with Rihanna 's grab ,lol  :lol:  :lol: !!!!!!!


(http://cdn.gossiboocrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/normal_rihanna2007.jpg)

(http://mjjgallery.free.fr/thriller/tour/various/200.jpg)

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10200000/MICHAEL-AND-HIS-CROTCH-3-P-michael-jackson-10288034-798-1200.jpg)

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12100000/Crotch-grabbing-collection-WooHoo-michael-jackson-12121305-824-1200.jpg)

(http://cdn.gossiboocrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/rihanna-performs-at-a313bc.jpg)

(http://keepittrill.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rihanna3.jpg)

(http://www.heatworld.com/images/96090_615x10000_STD/2010/8/images/Rihanna_main.jpg)

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/21/article-1298286580346-0D49A60A000005DC-550980_636x398.jpg)

Now it is just me or this last picture seems "familiar",because of the microphone   :shock:  geek/  :lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:?

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/03/14/1226021/131898-rihanna.jpg)
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MichaelSalt on January 08, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
OK maybe  I am influenced because I met her. But i think she is really cute (not only physicaly). And she really loves Michael :) But all these Illuminati things are crazy for me. How i said, i believe that there are some people "behind the curtain" but this is too much, i think :)
PS:Sorry for my bad english :)
LOVE YOU ALL  respect/
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 09, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
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OK maybe  I am influenced because I met her. But i think she is really cute (not only physicaly). And she really loves Michael :) But all these Illuminati things are crazy for me. How i said, i believe that there are some people "behind the curtain" but this is too much, i think :)
PS:Sorry for my bad english :)
LOVE YOU ALL  respect/

You can say that again,she is really beautiful  :) !!!! I bet she LOVES Michael very much  ;) ,just as much you and me love him  bearhug !!! Can you please tell some DEtAiLs about your "meeting" with Rihanna cause you made me quite curious  :mrgreen: .Thank's  :) !!!!

Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 09, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
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Tink
January 04, 2012, 06:40:40 AM »
Let's quickly take apart the video on the dollar bill, and the stuff on the Illuminati, shall we:
In his book America's Occult Holidays Marquis tries to convince us that Christmas was "an ancient occult ceremony dedicated to the birthday of Tammuz, the son of the cofounders of the occult, Nimrod and Semiramis." Marquis tells us that Christmas was forbidden by the early American pilgrims. Marquis goes on to claim that "Easter... is in fact the celebration of the return of Semiramis into her reincarnated form of the spring goddess" and that "Halloween... is the deadliest holiday ever celebrated in human history... which is dedicated to the Celtic lord of the dead." Of course, Christmas originated out of the old Yule (winter solstice) traditions, not out of the Middle East. Easter is named for the Saxon fertility Goddess Eostre and has nothing to do with Semiramis. Halloween was never dedicated to the Celtic lord of the dead.

Marquis's book Secrets of the Illuminati, encapsulates the disparate elements that he is trying to paste together in his many books and presentations. Secrets of the Illuminati lists various symbols that Marquis has interpreted or combined in outlandish ways using peculiar logic to come up with even stranger conclusions. They all come together in a seal for the "New World Order" which Marquis has created in Secrets of the Illuminati. This seal consists of a triple circle with a Star of David in the middle. In this seal Marquis lists six things: The Illuminati, the Masons, the Black Pope, Rock 'n Roll, the House of Rothschild, and the Two Seals of Our Doom. One of these is placed at each point of this star. Inside the perimeter of the outermost circle Marquis lists: "8 Sabbats, Catholocism [sic], Rosicrucians, Satanism, D&D." Between each of these words is a series of Hebrew letters. Superimposed over the center of this is a three quarter side view of a rectangular altar bearing three symbols: An inverted crucifix and the two sides of the Great Seal of the United States. Above the sigil is the words "I Witch" in red, surmounted by an "all seeing eye" in a triangle. Red blood streams down from the letters i, t and c in the word Witch, around the circle in which the name "Illuminati" is written and onto the top of this altar and overflows out of the lower left corner of the page. One can summarize his interpretation of this seal as follows:

The "all seeing eye" at the top of the diagram, which is described as, the "Eye of Horus," is supposed to be Satan looking down on all the activity being done on his behalf.

NOTE: Remember this one? We encountered the Utchat or "Eye of Horus" in amongst Warnke's nonsense in an earlier article. It is not a symbol of Satan. One of the reasons that people like Marquis go after the Great Seal of the US is that they are misinterpreting the symbols and mottos depicted upon it, particularly those on the reverse side, which depicts an unfinished pyramid surmounted by an eye in a triangle, and surrounded by the Latin expressions Annuit Coeptis and Novus Ordo Seclorum. The first Latin phrase was inspired by the Roman poet Virgil, who lived in the first century BCE. In the Aeneid, book IX, line 625, is the phrase: "Jupiter omnipotens, audacibus annue coeptis." (All-powerful Jupiter, favor [my] daring undertakings.) Also, in Virgil's Georgics (book I, line 40) are the words: "Da facilem cursum, atque audacibus annue coeptis." (Give [me] an easy course, and favor [my] daring undertakings.) Charles Thomson changed the first person imperative "annue" to the third person "annuit." In the motto Annuit Coeptis, the subject of the verb must be supplied, and the translator must also choose the tense. We know that Thomson said: "The pyramid signifies Strength and Duration: the Eye over it & the Motto allude to the many signal interpositions of providence in favour of the American cause." The eye is therefore the missing subject, and the translation of Annuit Coeptis would be: "The Eye of Providence is favorable to our undertakings."

The second Latin phrase, Novus Ordo Seclorum, was also chosen by Charles Thomson. In the fifth line of Eclogue IV, Virgil also wrote the phrase "Magnus ab integro seclorum nascitur ordo." This has been translated in several ways, including, "A mighty order of ages is born anew", "The great series of ages begins anew", "the ages' mighty march begins anew" and "the majestic roll of circling centuries begins anew." Thomson coined the phrase "Novus ordo seclorum", which means "a new order of the ages". People like Marquis chose to mistranslate this phrase as "a new secular world order."

There is no "New World Order," just in the over active imaginings of writers and artists. Need I say more?

As for Carrie Underwood and her legs open? That's pretty amusing. Anyone here ever stood up on a stage in pumps or platforms, in a dress, walk around and sing? It's called, "Keeping balance," "Trying not to fall," it isn't provacative, if you don't get a crotch flash, now is it?

If Michael could grab his crotch  :oops:  :lol: , why does anyone care if a poor girl in high heels and short dress walks around without falling on stage!?

OMG what a WONDERFUL post  :shock:   respect/  /bravo/  bearhug !!!!
Thank you very much and let me tell you that you are my HERO  ;)  !!!!

CONSPIRACIES: People want to think that there are powerful, secret societies doing all kinds of mischief that affect our lives and destinies. It is not true. People cannot control themselves, let alone other people, for very long.
People believe in conspiracies because they want to believe that someone is in control, even if it is the bad guys; it is better than no control at all.
There are many secret societies that are trying to do this and that, but they are not smart enough, and they do not have enough time or cooperation from others to really do anything besides make themselves feel important for a short period of time. They cause plenty of unnecessary trouble, but that is all.
The greed and need for control that starts conspiracies destroys them. 8-)  ;)  :mrgreen:

ILLUMINATI: If there is an Illuminati, they are not very illuminated lol  :lol:  :lol: and are nothing to worry about. They do not know the nature of reality, or they would not be trying to control it. They will not be able to change it, no matter what they think.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Aidan_81 on January 09, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
Michael grabbed his crotch gracefully  ;D and everyone started to do same thing!
Most do it wrong though  ::P Michael never looked "filthy" to me while doing it  :-* dunno why  ;D
he did it naturally lol. He became the music  ;D not show off.
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: MichaelSalt on January 09, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
Can you please tell some DEtAiLs about your "meeting" with Rihanna cause you made me quite curious  :mrgreen: .Thank's  :) !!!!
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Thank you so Much for your interest! :) It was awesome. I wasnt a big fan until that meeting :) it was after her LOUD TOUR show in Prague! I hug her, tell some sentences and go home :D It was really fast but huge experience for me :) I was wearing Michaels CTE shirt and i think she loved it :))
GOD BLESS YOU
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Post by: diggyon on January 09, 2012, 12:05:52 PM
I am sure everyone would kill me for this but I'll say it:
I never liked it when Michael grabbed his....you know.I don't know why he did it and I can't understand why this move was really necessary for his show. I know he is a very good dancer, but still everyone can dance without grabbing his....... I am a very shy person and every time I see  it i get so embarrassed and shy.  Sorry, but this is just my opinion!!!
Peace
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Post by: applehead250609 on January 09, 2012, 12:33:56 PM
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Can you please tell some DEtAiLs about your "meeting" with Rihanna cause you made me quite curious  :mrgreen: .Thank's  :) !!!!

Thank you so Much for your interest! :) It was awesome. I wasnt a big fan until that meeting :) it was after her LOUD TOUR show in Prague! I hug her, tell some sentences and go home :D It was really fast but huge experience for me :) I was wearing Michaels CTE shirt and i think she loved it :))
GOD BLESS YOU

Well I am very happy ,that you are happy  :) ,believe me,and I bet it was an awesome experience  penguin/ !!!
Of course I can only imagine and I'm thinking also at what Michael said about meeting his fans and some celebrities also.
If GOD means LOVE,then I wish alot of LOVE to you my friend  :-* !!!
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Post by: applehead250609 on January 09, 2012, 12:49:32 PM
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I am sure everyone would kill me for this but I'll say it:
I never liked it when Michael grabbed his....you know.I don't know why he did it and I can't understand why this move was really necessary for his show. I know he is a very god dancer, but still everyone can dance without grabbing his....... I am a very shy person and every time I see I it i get so embarrassed and shy.  Sorry, but this is just my opinion!!!
Peace

Hey to kill you just for that  :lol: ????? Believe me that I'm not gonna kill you,in fact I'm very proud of you,cause you are honest  respect/ !!!
Nobody says you have to like it ,my friend.Everyone here has his/her tastes and it's ok, and it's normal  :) .Michael has his reasons to grabb  his crotch and I bet I know 1 or 2 reasons,but hey,who am I to spill the beans  :shock:  :lol: :lol:  :lol: ????
Anyway the important thing is that he "DID IT" and that it's a part of his PERSONA  :mrgreen: .

Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 09, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
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January 03, 2012, 03:21:40 PM »
I agree 100%!  Even poor Carrie Underwood with her beautifully innocent personality is made to sing vampy songs and sing with her legs spread apart on stage.  You can tell by her face that she is not happy about it but has to do it.
I especially hate it when women are "spanked" on stage and are crawling around the floor and climbing up mens legs.  This is what  children are watching!  Sex and evil sells.....and the music industry promotes it as much as they can.   As you can already see, Justin Bieber with this charge of getting a girl preggs....tell me that wasn't set up to taint his innocent image!

Well,well talking about SPANKING ,lol  :lol: ,"children" already saw some of that "position" in Dangerous tour if I'm not mistaken,no  :shock:  geek/  :lol: :lol:  :lol:????

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Hey and what about this  :shock:  :shock: :shock: :   :lol:   :lol: ????

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Like SOMEone here said,this must be PURE ART ,so who am I to disagree ??? I'm here to DANCE and to have FUN  penguin/   :lol:  :lol: !!

 
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Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 09, 2012, 02:31:53 PM
Stop it applehead!! :lol:
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: Tink on January 09, 2012, 04:50:06 PM
Ohhh, I see. Michael was used to dancing with a Microphone in his hand, then went wireless?  ;))
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Post by: Suzy7 on January 09, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
lol Tink
Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 11, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
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Stop it applehead!! :lol:

I'm sorry MJFAN7 but I will not STOP ,lol  :lol:  :lol: ,No, no so let's have some FUN  penguin/  !!!!!

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Title: Re: Rihanna sais there is no God!!!!!
Post by: applehead250609 on January 11, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
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Ohhh, I see. Michael was used to dancing with a Microphone in his hand, then went wireless?  ;))

LOL ThINK you are PERFECT  :shock:  geek/  :lol: ,of course he went "wireless"  :lol: ,he is after all Michael Jackson  8-) !!!!!

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