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1. I would like to draw your attention on the following dates:
25th June 2009 - MJ "died"
26th June 1977 - Elvis' last concert
26th June 1979 - Elvis' father died
26th June 1909 - Elvis Presley's manager, Tom parker was born
26th June 1938 - Felix “Bush” Breazeale - arranged a "living funeral" for himself ("Get Low" movie)
If you are not yet familiar with this movie ^^, see more details about it here:
- ELVIS & "Get Low" (2009) & "This Is It" (2009) - FELIX vs Michael - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=208909769166048
- Photo-montages ALBUM - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.208905932499765.51153.197418280315197&type=1
2. Before reading further, please take a look at this excerpt: [...]
17. Why did the medics leave Vernon there? Weren't they realistically afraid of the stress on Vernon, especially knowing
he had a history of heart problems, as well as a recent heart attack. Why would he not go to the hospital with his only son?
Was it because he knew that it was not his son? Who really went to the hospital that day? Who was the donor?
18. Why did Joe and Dr. Nick identify the body? Why not a next of kin, as done on a regular basis?
19. In the final analysis, how did the father of Elvis Presley do a radio interview two hours after the death report in a
very calm and unemotional state?
(Written by The Presley Commission) - http://usuarios.multimania.es/elvistcb/newpage10.html
3. Elvis funeral -Back in 1977: "Son, Daddy will be with you soon. Daddy will be with you soon," cried Vernon Presley at Elvis’ funeral. Two years later on June 26th 1979 Vernon Presley died of a broken heart.
According to Jesse/Elvis, his father died too early, before he ever got to tell him the truth about his faked death. [read the quotes from his book here: http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/elvisjesse-and-numerology/ ] If this is it, then I’m sorry for them, it’s really sad that his father passed without ever knowing what really happened…
4. But still, let’s think about this damn’ date of JUNE 26th! lol :D Felix Bush Breazeale faked his funeral on June 26th 1938, then Elvis’ last concert ever was on June 26th and MJ just happened to “die” on June 25th! Seriously, can this all be just a “coincidence”!?
- Let’s run a numerology test on Felix Breazeale's "funeral"date:
month + day: 6+2+6 = 14[14 = 2x7;77 - MJ no.!]
year: 1+9+3+8 = 21; [21=3x7; 777 !- MJ no.]
total date sum: 6 + 2 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 3 + 8 = 35; [3+5= 8 Elvis no.!]
- Let’s run a numerology test on Mr. Vernon’s death date:
month + day: 6+2+6 = 14[[14 = 2x7; 77 - MJ no.!]
year: 1+9+7+9 = 26; [2+6 = 8 Elvis no.!]
total date sum: 6 + 2 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 7 + 9 = 40; [ 40 = 5 x 8]
Also: 4+0=4 - which is the half of number 8; half… hint: "heart broken in half"? :p lol That’s what they said: that Mr. Vernon died of a broken heart! By the way! Isn’t it such a predictable cause of death? lol I mean it wasn’t so surprising, was it? Everyone expected the man to have his heart broken by his beloved famous son’s sudden and premature “death”, or no? I mean who would even dare question Mr. Vernon’s death? [except maybe the crazy me! lol :p 8-) ] No, but seriously, who could reasonably answer to this question: How on Earth, did he die exactly on June 26th??? Exactly on the same date as his son’s last concert ever!? The exact same date Felix Bush Brezeale had faked his funeral 39 years earlier [39 is 3 nines: 999 ]!! How could this be? Either it was indeed GOD’s will OR it was another planned faked death… Mr. Vernon Presley probably wanted to be hidden together with his son for his final years! And to me this sounds more plausible than his death on JUNE 26! Any other date would not have raised my suspicion!
That is my opinion and no one is forced to like it or agree with it. I also think I am not far fetched with this idea, especially since everybody seems “to die” of a “broken heart” in celebrity world!? What the hell happens? Do all celebs really have such weak hearts so as to die of a heart attack one after another?? Are we supposed to believe the B.S. that they were ALL drug addicts, alcohol-addicts or abusers of prescription pills!?? WTF!? I mean come on, how many drug addicts are there in the music/film industry? Many! Yes, very possible! But not ALL the MOST famous celebs! And not ALL with the same cause of death!! And NOT all on similar “coincidental” death dates!! How far can this go? How long the people will be so naïve to eat every donut!??
5. Some of the most famous “half-broken hearts” and their bizarre death-dates:
Elvis (16thAug. 1977) - 8 + 1 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 7 + 7 = 39; [39 ---) 3 nines: 999]
Vernon Presley (26th June 1979) - 6 + 2 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 7 + 9 = <b>40</b>; [ 40 = 5 x 8 ]
^^ Consecutive total "death" numbers: 39, 40
Michael (25th June 2009) - 6 + 2 + 5 + 2 + 9 = 24 [24 = 3x8; [888 - Elvis!]]
Liz Taylor (23rd March 2011) - 2+3+3+2+1+1 = 12 [hint to the year 2012!? 12 is also half of 24! "half ... broken heart"]
Frank Dileo (24th Aug 2011) - 2+4+8+2+1+1 = 18 [18 = 2x9; 99; OR 18 ---) 1+8 = 9]
James Brown (25th Dec. 2006) - 2+5+1+2+2+6 = 18 [The same ^^ !!]
^^ As you can see, the numbers 18 & 24 are of major importance, they repeat so often! Take a look at the 2 photo-montages, here below, for more details about 18 & 24 in MJ & Elvis - Numerology.
Notice how 3 of Michael’s best friends “died ALL of a broken-heart" so close to his death-date on the bizarre consecutive dates: 23, 24, 25: 23rd (Liz Taylor), 24th (Frank Dileo) and 25th (James Brown)? Makes you wonder who’s next on the 26th!?
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I took this screen shot^^ from a video about exposing the music industry. I don't remember exactly which one from this series...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnEgE[/youtube]
But look...there is a "preference" for the date of 25th! and the month of JUNE loll :p there are 4 possible options here, it's up to you to judge:
1. God likes number 25 [ :p ] and calls all artists in heaven on this date [ :p ]
2. These artists share a common destiny , therefore they all die on 25th, mostly in JUNE [ :p]
3. These artists were all murdered by the Illuminati and/or the music industry mafia, according to some stupid, morbid rituals, on the date of 25th.
4. Some of these artists were murdered [ as mentioned above] and some of them faked their dates on this exact date, as a protest ['the greatest revolution in the history of our nation"!] and as a cry for help against the Illuminati.
If you ask me, I tend to incline towards option no. 4 OR maybe there is another explanation of which I am not aware of...
Numbers 18 & 24
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GREAT video !! about number 24 & 2001 ;)
ELVIS PRESLEY: NUMEROLOGICAL PHENOMENON - 2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yQsIy9jsSk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Numerology is the BEST clue that Mj & Elvis are ALIVE !
Michael birth date August 29th 1958: 8+2+9+1+9+5+8 = 42[no. 7 six times 777 777 ---) 6 x 7=42];
42 - the age Elvis "died";
42 is the reverse of 24
MJ supposedly “died” on June 25th 2009: 6 + 2 + 5 + 2 + 9 = 24 [888 - Elvis!]
Elvis supposedly “died” on August 16th 1977: 8 + 1 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 7 + 7 = 39; [39 ---) 3 nines: 999]
month + day: 16+8 = 24[888 ---) 3X8=24] ;
year: 1+9+7+7 =24
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OTHER INTERESTING DATES AND NUMBERS ! ;)
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MORE details on NUMBER 8 and its INFINITY symbolism , on this topic here:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,20291.25.html
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WATCH this video first:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXYW42NRFcY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
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I took this screen shot^^ from a video about exposing the music industry. I don't remember exactly which one... But look...there is a "preference" for the date of 25th! and the month of JUNE loll :p there are 4 possible options here, it's up to you to judge:
1. God likes number 25 [ :p ] and calls all artists in heaven on this date [ :p ]
2. These artists share a common destiny , therefore they all die on 25th, mostly in JUNE [ :p]
3. These artists were all murdered by the Illuminati and/or the music industry mafia, according to some stupid, morbid rituals, on the date of 25th.
4. Some of these artists were murdered [ as mentioned above] and some of them faked their dates on this exact date, as a protest ['the greatest revolution in the history of our nation"!] and as a cry for help against the Illuminati.
If you ask me, I tend to incline towards option no. 4 OR maybe there is another explanation of which I am not aware of...
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I appreciate all your hard work! The other day my son responded to my sharing some connections with-- 'Well if you dig deep enough there's probably connections everywhere because you only focus on the ones that have the same numbers or names and ignore the majority which make no connection.' I know that in the thread about Movie connections posted by TheRunningGirl, there are pointed out so many interesting connections, that make you go, how is it possible! There's no way that one man Michael can possible be so many places and orchestrating so many things. So then you wonder if God is arranging the connections. It's really hard to know how these things could possibly all even by planned by anyone but God, they're so interwoven. Does God have a pre-written script for every detail and so much more, before mankind began. Some might suggest Satan or the Illuminati, but so many little details, and why? I really think these special connections are from God the Creator.
I also wanted to point out to you another interesting person to add to your list that I noticed a couple of days ago and posted in another thread.
MJ was to take the kids to Charlie Caplin's home in Switzerland. CC died there on Dec. 25, 1977, at 88. Hm-m...
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A museum dedicated to screen legend Charlie Chaplin will open in 2011 in his former home on the shores of Lake Geneva in Switzerland.
You know how MJ loved Charlie Chaplin, dressed like him, and sang CC's song "Smile". Maybe you'll be able to find even more connections in this man's life. ;))
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Oh my!! NOW That's a LOVELY connection!!! especially since Charlie Chaplin represents the BEGINNING of what ELvis & Michael mostly LOVE: the FILM !!!
Yes, Charlie Chaplin is definitely another link, I didn't know about his death-date! OMG! thank you @MjonMind!
I will definitely do some more research on him!
Yes I knew about Michael's passion to dress like him and imitate him ;) Very talented too!
Regarding what you said about God. I agree with you, GOD must have a MAJOR ROLE in all this, but I also think that Michael is not alone in all this HUGE PUZZLE or SPIDER-WOVEN-NETWORK !! I think it was not only Michael, but also other people that help him and of course Elvis and all those celebrities that seem NOT to be ALL dead after all!! Maybe we don't even know how many people work "behind the curtains!" Michael and all the celebs are part of it and their are Front-Actors, they have talent, beauty & genius ideas but the "script-writers" are still in the shadow... I guess....
I liked how you used the word "interwoven"...
I immediately thought about Elvis' song "How the web was woven"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZg6JNuyuE[/youtube]
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OTHER INTERESTING DATES AND NUMBERS ! ;)
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WOW,just WOW this is crazy !!!!!Where have you been till now SimPattyK /bravo/?????
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Intresting Michael had 40 years as solo artist 8-),1969-2009 :?.Now you will not believe this but this made me think at something.I dont know what is this but it has to be a CRAZY COINCIDENCE.In Taraborrelli book it was something about Michael having 40 years in august 2008 ,last year he spoke with him.Michael was watching himself in the mirror and he said he is still looking good AT 40 :? :shock:!!!!In that moment Taramborrelli said:
"Mike you're gonna be fifty!!!
Then Michael said:
"It all went by o fast,didn't it? I wish I could do it all over again,I really do."
I wonder what could this mean,and why Michael said he was 40-ty,and not 50-ty?????
LOVE
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@applehead250609: I don't know what he meant by that... Interesting quote! thanks ;)
Maybe he referred at his "artistic-age", his career of 40! I don't know really....
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I received this photo-montage from a Facebbok friend, Alisa Love Marini Jackson ♥
WOW!! NOW THAT'S something!
I'm pretty sure Riley doesn't wear that 7 just for a "coincidence"! ;)
Riley PRESLEY and Michael wearing number 7 !!!
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Also notice that Michael is playing racquetball in his video "SCREAM".
Guess WHO played racquetball the day before he "died" ??
Well YES! Elvis!
Elvis is a racquetball fan, he had a racquetball court at Graceland, which is now turned into something like a museum/showroom of his awards and records.
Here are some photos with his equipment and from that racket ball hall at Graceland.
I am not very sure but from what I've heard, Lisa Marie was initially supposed to be with Michael in "Scream" video and not Janet!
I guess that maybe they changed their mind about that thinking maybe that it was a much too obvious reference to Elvis. So number 7 [Numerology] and the racquetball were enough ELvis-clues for just one video! lollll :lol: :lol:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiVfwH4D9oY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bem97ng6Ns&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfJWTkeO3qM&feature=related[/youtube]
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An older montage.... on numerology....
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ELVIS/JESSE AND NUMEROLOGY - http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/elvisjesse-and-numerology/
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^^ :)
And the "list of Seven(s)" goes on . . . and ON . . . :lol:
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Drop dead in SEVEN ? lmao :lol: :lol:
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Car number ----)) MJ4EVER ? :lol: :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h96N4pqtAyE&feature=youtu.be [/youtube]
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interesting stuff! thanks....all about death dates.....Today is also Elvis's birthday..HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELVIS! we still love you too!
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interesting stuff! thanks....all about death dates.....Today is also Elvis's birthday..HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELVIS! we still love you too!
Thank you! ;) Iposted some stuff in his Birthday topic too - the TIAI redirect ;)
Just a reminder... it just doesn't get off my mind!! really mind-bugging this 26th date !! [2+6 = 8] !!
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21593.0
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Wow, Sim, great stuff as usual. i wish Michael and Elvis could see this... it's just great!!!!
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thank you diggyon bearhug
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NUMBER 24
coincidences? plan? God's will?
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From this topic: TS/T.I.A.I discussion (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22007.250)
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These numerical elements that appear with tremendous frequency in all things hoax related could either be
1) coincidences
or
2) by design.
or
3) by God's will
The following data cannot be explained by the first 2 points mentioned by you, Bec, but in my opinion, these data can only be explained by God's will! While one can plan the dates on which some hoax-events will happen, I think everybody agrees no one can PLAN their own birthday. So there's definitely a 3rd option here - GOD, just my opinion and everything hoax-related had been planned starting from these already divinely set-up numbers. And I will try to explain my opinion and I will give more arguments to sustain my opinion, just below my numerology-demonstration here:
A VERY important hoax-number, occurring very often both in Elvis & MJ hoax [we also saw Dr. Murray wearing a t-shirt with it]
is NUMBER 24 [which is Backwards or Reversed: 42-- the age Elvis "died"]
- 24 = 8 + 8 + 8 or 888 [no. 8 is Elvis' number]
- 42 = 7 + 7 + 7 +7 +7 +7 or 777 777 [no. 7 is Michael's number]
- The 3 most important hoax-numbers sum: 7 + 8 + 9 = 24
- Elvis “death” month + day: 16+8= 24
- Elvis "death"year: 1+9+7+7 = 24
- Elvis comeback in 1968: 1+9+6+8 = 24
- Lisa Marie's birthday year: 1+9+6+8 = 24
- Michael’s birthday-anniversary in 2012: 8 + 2 + 9 + 2 + 1 + 2 = 24
- Michael ‘s birthday-date: 8+2+9+1+9+5+8 = 42 - the age Elvis "died"
- Michael’s “death”-date: 6+ 2 + 5 + 2 + 9 = 24
So Elvis significant numbers 42 & 24 perfectly match the total sums of Michael's birthday-date [42] & death-date [24] How funny! Can it be all a Coincidence? Can it be all just a man-made PLAN? or Does God have a 'hand' in this too?
*** I think that, as Bec said, the hoax is planned based on intentional figures and events meant to happen at a specific time! Why? maybe because:
1. doing everything by the numbers, namely doing calculated things, one can hardly make mistakes! carefully planned, calculated actions = the way to PERFECTION! I think we all know "someone" very dear to all of us, who has always been a PERFECTION seeker!
2. the belief that doing everything by the numbers, and not just any numbers, but the DIVINE ones, ensures the success of the plan
3. doing everything by the numbers represents the perfect proof that nothing was accidental, that there was a plan with a purpose and not just a capricious game
4. doing everything by the numbers made the perfect connection to Elvis' hoax!
and I could go on and on like this....
*** But I also think these intentional figures were not just randomly chosen to plan the hoax, but these numbers were intentionally chosen to fit the divine figures already planned by God. Why would Michael chose no. 7 and not no. 2 , for example? Well here is a possible explanation: The Number 7 in Scripture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcTnVVV0RIE) and here: THE AMAZING FIRST VERSE OF THE BIBLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0hUldrYp4)
*** I think that both Elvis and Michael, realized that God's perfect creation is based on Numbers: think about how everything surrounding us is all about numbers! the Bible, the musical notes, everything in this world seems to exist because of Numbers! This would explain why, being so faithful and spiritual persons, both Elvis and Michael were so passioned by Numerology! I think they studied this "pseudoscience" because they believed it would get them to a better understanding of God's message, it brought them closer to God....
I think Elvis' words explain it best: "People who put down God, don't realize there is an order in the universe: the seasons, the movements of the planets, the harmony of words and numbers. We have no order unless it is by design. -He smiled- And no design without a designer."
- I marked in red the word "universe" in Elvis' quote because I remember how Lisa Marie, in that Oprah interview about Michael's "death", I remember how at one point she looked upwards saying she's asking the universe (namely God) for answers as to why the circumstances of her father's death and Michael's death "were so identical, play by play by play" !!! I think this speaks volumes about what is happening "behind the curtains" of the hoax!! Who are the designer(s) of this hoax and what Lisa Marie really knows!! ;)
- I marked in purple the word "by design" because I found it interesting that Bec used it in this context, just like Elvis... and something tells me Bec was unaware of this Elvis' quote... Am I right or wrong, Bec? ;)
Because we all agree that numerology is a pseudoscience, we accept that their appearances are not divinely inspired. This leaves few possibilities as to WHO designed their inclusion. Many accept that MJ himself designed their inclusion, NOT GOD.
I agree...I accept that Elvis and Michael designed their death hoax, BUT by certain numbers that they thought were indicated to them by God.
If anyone were touting that god (or even fate) was responsible for these numbers showing up in this hoax, you could refute that theory by offering the fact that numerology is a pseudoscience and you'd be right. [...]
Numerology is a pseudoscience, ok.
Fate is not responsible for all numerological connections in the hoax, ok.
God is not responsible for all numerological connections in the hoax, ok.
BUT the numerological connections in the hoax were designed to fit certain God given numbers that influenced the lives and careers of both Elvis & Michael!
^^ This is how I see this whole Numerology trick related to the hoax. Everything is just my opinion, based on my own research that I started doing after reading TS' messages about Numerology.
I don't claim to be right on everything I said here. I may be wrong on certain points, I hope the BAM will clarify everything in the end!
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This subject really interests me the MOST since it led me to all those fascinating discoveries about Elvis! So I'd be very happy to read more of what TS has to say on Numerology! ;) bearhug
From this topic: Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21825.msg385722#msg385722)
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This is one of my favorite movies, and I've seen it about 10 times. The Flight of the Phoenix - trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfZHP1HHHg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfZHP1HHHg)
What I love the most about this is that Hugh Laurie (Dr. House) is in it and did you see the release date of the movie? :) November 24th, 2004!!
ooh Don't I just love this NO. 24 that keeps popping up everywhere around the hoax!!!?? :lol:
And 24 November 2004 = 2+4+1+1+2+4 = 14; AND: 14 = 7+ 7 ----)) 77 :lol:
I posted several photo-montages about this film ^^ in relation to the Phoenix and of course MJ & Elvis, here on this topic (scroll the page down towards the bottom): http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=20291.0
From this topic: TIAI January 21 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22042.msg386204#msg386204)
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17. A Signature Identifies Who Signed - http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?topic=56.msg118#msg118
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With the blood that Ron Wyatt found on the mercy seat of the true ark, the identity is impossible to counterfeit. Normal humans have 46 chromosomes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome). However, the blood of Jesus from the ark has only 24 chromosomes (23 “X” from Mary, and 1 “Y” from God). This is very strong scientific evidence of the virgin birth (see Matthew 1:18-25; Luke 1:26-38; 3:23).[...]
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Like most of you, I was also not aware of any of this information, so I really can't comment anything else for now because I think i need to do some serious "digging" into it!
Nevertheless, I need to say that while reading, I had, again, one of those WTF?? moments!! Number 24?? ---) AGAIN?? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22007.250) smiley_spider Surely a "coincidence"!! :lol:
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http://creativenumerology.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/the-winds-of-change-are-howling/
Found this great blog, written on or around the time of MJ's memorial.....she has written more about Michael, so I thought this is pretty relevant............Cheers xx
I’m starting with the man in the mirror
I’m asking him to change his ways
No message could have been any clearer
If you wanna make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself – then make that change
Michael Jackson
We are right in the middle of a giant wave of change that’s going to alter the way we live – drastically! All over the world, denial is falling apart and the will of humanity is trying to push its way out of suppression. We are told we have free will, but we never really got to choose how we would live our lives. The choices are limited to a system which controls us from the moment we are born until the day we die. The truth is that we are only just beginning to understand what free will is, and it starts with openness and truth.
It is breathtaking to watch humanity’s story unfold before our very eyes on what we call the ‘world stage’, knowing that you, me, and everyone on Earth IS humanity, and that those events are outer reflections of what’s going on inside each of us. It’s exciting to watch denial fall, allowing truth and hope to filter through. But it is alarming and frightening to see the other side of the equation in which the suppressors are fighting back and, although they cannot stop humanity’s evolution, are putting up brutal resistance to it, and there is no telling how far their reach still is or how long they can last.
It does seem that we have been thinking about change from too narrow a point of view. Yes, we have a very long way to go, and some people are having to fight so much harder than others to bring themselves into freedom and acceptance, but the potential for massive change – a fundamental shift in our consciousness towards peace, fairness and true fulfillment – has never been greater.
July is a 9 month in the world. This is derived from adding the 11 year (2009) to the 7th month. 11+7=18. 1+8 = 9. 9 is the number of endings, completions, deep emotions, and global awareness. 9 is the number of great kindness and generosity – and it is also the number of unspeakable cruelty and meanness.
9’s connection to 2, 11, 4, 22, 29 and 911 this month is very powerful, unpredictable and SLOW. If we try to move at a faster pace than it is going, the stress will be unbearable. Only by slowing ourselves down and taking one day at a time will we be able to see and sense what’s happening. We will miss vital details and essential awareness if we try to rush (or distract) our way through it. By slowing down to the same pace as the energy we’re in, we will be able to see how far we have already come, and how much closer and caring people have become in general.
People are now far more able to empathize with and support fellow human beings around the world, instead of seeing each other as some kind of threat. The appetite for war and violence is lower than ever, people are sick and tired of the phoniness, the jockeying for position, the greed, the lies, the cruelty and the hypocrisy of showing one face to the world while, in reality, are someone else entirely.
People everywhere are feeling the peacefulness and calm that the 2 energy emits. But because 2 is the number of sensitivity, we cannot help but feel our feelings more acutely, and because 7 (July is the 7th month) often triggers fear (7 represents learning about the unknown), we must remember that all emotions have more than one level, volume or effect. Fear’s purpose is to alert us to anything which may require caution on our part. It comes to us in many different forms, on different levels of intensity and velocity, and for different reasons.
We should, therefore, be careful about blaming fear for all our ills. After all, it is often ‘fear of the alternative’ that wakes people up and guides them to a more peaceful and sustainable approach. It is not a matter of banishing fear from our lives. It is a matter of raising our awareness of reality so that we can more easily assess what needs to be feared and what doesn’t. Facing reality can trigger all sorts of fears, which are often dissolved by the desire to evolve and move ahead.
We are starting to look more closely at ourselves and each other with a level of feeling and acceptance we had not reached before. As denial falls away and reality stares back at us, we are becoming more real with ourselves and each other.
Our emotions are being churned around for a good reason. It’s because we are in the evolutionary process of raising our awareness of life to a much higher frequency. This awareness is not coming directly from our consciousness. On the contrary, our minds must open to let this new form of awareness in. Of course it is not new at all. It is a part of ourselves that we have not allowed to operate as it should. It is the power of our emotions that is drawing our attention to what’s really happening in the world and enabling us to feel what we really feel about it.
The vibrations of emotion open the mind to new understandings, and expression of emotion is the basis of creativity. However, the more we deny our emotions, the more emotional our lives will become until we do indeed accept them as part of what we ARE. By choosing to deny our emotional power, we are choosing to learn from experiences we don’t want to have.
We are witnessing the rise of the human will, the shattering of hypocrisy, and the collapse of denial. We are watching other people’s denials fade away under the mighty illumination of 11, and we’re watching their truths come tumbling out. But we’re not just watching it, we’re feeling it. And it’s happening in our own lives, too. It’s time to be honest about how we feel.
We should listen deeply to Michael Jackson’s MAN IN THE MIRROR because it depicts our exact position in the human journey at this time – which also happens to be the time of his death – an event which, love him or hate him, has triggered the emotions of a huge section of humanity, covering 3 generations. In a year and month that are filled with 11’s, Man In The Mirror depicts one reflecting on oneself. We have to face our own reflection and SEE who we really are. 11 = self acceptance. And acceptance of others (peace) can only come through self acceptance.
Lionel Ritchie remarked that Jackson was “a world phenomenon. He was very misunderstood, yet tried desperately to be a part of this world. We all watched him as he struggled with that balance.” That’s how I saw him, too.
Michael Jackson was born on the 29th (2+9=11) and, to this numerologist, it is not surprising to me that he left this world in 2009. Even his “THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL” has enormous relevance to what we are experiencing on Earth right now. His words are so much more profound than the label of ‘pop’ allows many to realize, and I have a feeling that they will be discussed for a long time to come. I believe that what Michael Jackson left behind is more valuable than we can imagine right now, not in terms of how much money can be made from his unique art, but in terms of how on point and inspiring his words are.
His death also touches those who are interested in the date December 21, 2012, and the abrupt ending of the Mayan Calendar despite its magnificent efficiency and accuracy up until that point, and all the speculation that goes with this phenomenon. This stood out clearly as I read the press coverage of Michael Jackson’s death.
“The 911 call went in at 12:21. But it was already too late.”
911 are important numbers in current evolutionary movement, and are not just the emergency code for the United States. The symbolism in this instance suggests that if we wait until 12-21-2012 to make the necessary changes in ourselves and on Earth, it will, indeed be too late.
2012 appears to be a tipping point in the journey – a point of no return. We must evolve as we need to, as there will be no time in which to do so at the last moment. Therefore, speculating as to what may happen on that date is irrelevant. It is what we do – or stop doing – LEADING UP TO THAT DATE that matters.
And then, as if to repeat the warning, I read: Jackson was pronounced dead at 2:26pm, and again 18 minutes later at 2:44pm.
1+8 (minutes) = 9
2+2+6=10. 1+0=1
2+4+4=10. 1+0=1
There is an emergency going on in the world. There IS urgency here. “Gotta make it right while you got the time” he sings in Man in The Mirror, which is essentially about CARING for other lives besides our own – and that change starts within the individual – the message of the 2 energy itself. Free Will is all about CHOICE, and it really is time for us to start making choices that will ensure not only survival but our capacity to thrive on this wonderful planet we call home.
Note added 7/21/2009: By the way, the number of the Staples Center building in Los Angeles where Michael Jackson’s memorial took place is 1111.
*******Of course, caution is needed. (Caution is a form of fear, by the way – another reason why we can’t ‘do away’ with fear altogether. It is a major part of our sensory system – our awareness). Not everyone is evolving at the same pace or in the same way. Some are resisting these changes with all their might. And there is a LOT of might out there whose intentions are not loving at all, at least not beyond their immediate family, group, or point of view. Their goal is to gain or maintain control. Their energy is extreme.
Whenever the true responses of our wills are denied, it is reflected in the world as oppression, war, slavery, poverty, hunger, ignorance, cruelty, unfairness, and all kinds of atrocities. I believe that evil is anything/anyone who deliberately deprives the freedom of another, including those who manipulate others into thinking they’re free when, in fact, they are under control. We are still subject to the dangerous and violent reactions of an old reality as the pressure of new light pushes it into the past.
There will always be extremes, and they will always be dangerous. (Read Numerology And The Extremes). We cannot afford to let our desire for positiveness blind us to the many realities that we really DO need to stay aware of. Bio-electro-magnetic beings cannot be ‘all’ positive and expect to be balanced, and we cannot evolve without full consciousness of what we are evolving from.
It is our emotional energy and its framework of senses and feelings that provides balance, but because we have always avoided feelings that felt unpleasant, we have not been able to develop or even understand our full emotional power as yet. Although we are making a start on that now, I think it could take a long time to understand the process of emotional healing because it’s not something we can know in advance of having the actual experience. Humanity is exploring and discovering itself, individually and collectively, and we’re all learning as we go.
We are both positive and negative and, yes, our emotions are our negative energy. Of course, we have largely misunderstood and misused the word ‘negative’ to the extent that it is now associated with anything ‘bad’. Our emotions are our feminine energy – our magnetism. Our consciousness is our masculine energy – our electricity. Our bodies are our physical form on Earth and are part of the balance as well.
Nothing hurts a feeling more than non-acceptance, and nothing heals an ill feeling better than acceptance. The reason that emotions often appear so wretched and ugly is because they have been denied and degraded and, in many ways tortured because of the mind’s reluctance to feel anything ‘negative’. Well, humanity is having a big, beautiful and amazing change of mind right now – a shift of consciousness – as it begins to accept parts of what we call the subconscious – parts of our own individual existence that we were always too afraid to even look at, let alone bring into consciousness.
The subconscious IS the depths of denial itself. And there’s a lot of hurt feelings locked up in there which simply need to be accepted by consciousness – brought back to consciousness – where they can heal, leave the body and go on their way. There is also a lot of truth and wisdom locked away in the subconscious which is making its way to consciousness in the form of INSIGHT and INSPIRATION – more traits of the 11/2 energy.
This is emotional spontaneity – emotional health – the movement of emotions through and out of the body. But our resistance to this natural course has resulted in a huge back up of feelings that needs to be cleared out of the body, not pushed further in. We are feeling our emotions more deeply because we are in a segment of the journey in which those old and sometimes bitter emotions – ill feelings – that are trapped inside, are coming to the surface to find the one thing that will heal them. ACCEPTANCE. That’s what emotional healing is. Our emotions are not what’s been getting in the way of our evolvement. They are an essential part of our selves that we’ve been avoiding, and it is our resistance to them that has been holding us back.
People are starting to question what were once their basic beliefs, and there are many ‘positive’ people out there who are starting to feel unsure about many things. There are many ‘negative’ people out there, people who are emotional by nature, who are realizing that happiness really does begin on the inside – just as long as you let yourself feel it. In order to find the balance we need, each orientation may have to experience what feels like role reversal for a while: emotional/creative people leaning towards the intellect, and spiritual/intellectual people being drawn towards their emotions. Balance comes at the same rate that positive and negative are able to mix, accept and understand each other. We are talking about FUSION here.
11 is the number most associated with nuclear energy – and what we are doing by merging these energies is finding our center (our nucleus) and, in doing so, reaching true balance. Along with correct understanding, we then have the basis of true PERSONAL POWER which we cannot attain without free will. In the process, life can feel like one big stressful trip, the ultimate emotional roller coaster.
Can you feel the enormity of what’s happening to us, to each other and in the world? As we make more of the subconscious conscious, (come out of denial), hypocrisy is falling away. Scandals, exposés and atrocities dominate the world stage, and truth is pouring through. It may not be happening as quickly as some would like, and for others everything is happening far too quickly. The point is that it IS happening, and we are already SO much more sensitive to and aware of what is real and what is mere façade.
We can see what’s happening with our own eyes, hear with our ears, taste with our tongues, smell with our noses, touch with our hands, and SENSE with our sensitivity – our emotions. We are evolving as a species by honing our existing senses and developing our capacity to FEEL. This is changing what was always an aggressive, greedy, war-like ‘man’s world’ into a world in which masculine and feminine energy can coexist in a state of equality, which is what balance is.
Our emotions are our feminine energy. How do you think the phrase “getting in touch with my feminine side” came into being? It started when some men realized that there simply had to be more to life than war, greed, and dominance, and all the other BS that comes from raw unevolved masculine energy. However, men, to this very day, are still ridiculed for being anything less than macho, which translates in the human psyche as the belief that to show emotion denotes weakness whether it be anger, fear, grief, or even joy and love. No, emotion is not weakness, it is HONESTY!
That’s what we’re evolving towards. Truth – not through some grand predestined plan or genetic wiring, but because it is what we want. The collective will of humanity wants to live in the full light of reality instead of the shallowness of denial. We want the truth and we are willing it into being.
Even the media is changing in response to this. So many fresh new faces and voices are making a serious effort to report the truth, not only because their careers depend on it, but because they themselves are a part of the massive change that is happening on Earth. The way we communicate has changed drastically. Ordinary people, many with no “traditional” experience in journalism, are reporting the truth and are being taken seriously. The old-school mainstream media can no longer control and select information about our world, and if they don’t wake up and evolve along with the rest of us, they too will soon be history.
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Thanks again for all your amazing number crunching! It's so beautiful to see!
I know Michael loved/loves basketball, but I wonder if there is some specific reason why he chose Kobe Bryant for the visual for 24.
Kobe Bean Bryant(born August 23, 1978)
As of July 2011, Bryant ranks third and sixth on the league's all-time post-season scoring and all-time regular season scoring lists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_career_scoring_leaders), respectively. He is also the all-time leading scorer in Lakers franchise history.
Bryant is a shooting guar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_guard)dwho is capable of playing the small forward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_forward)position.
Bryant assigned himself the nickname of "Black Mamba", citing a desire for his basketball skills to mimic the snake of that name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_mamba)'s ability to "strike with 99% accuracy at maximum speed, in rapid succession."
Both Sporting News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_News) and TNT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_(TV_channel)) named Bryant the NBA player of the 2000s decade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000-2009).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant)
This pic taken on Jan. 25, 2010.
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Maybe Michael the Archangel, is the #1 shooting guard!
Daniel in the OT says he is the "great prince who stands up for the children of your people".
In the New Testament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament) Michael leads God's armies against Satan's forces in the Book of Revelation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation), where during the war in heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_heaven) he defeats Satan. In the Epistle of Jude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_of_Jude) Michael is specifically referred to as an "archangel". Christian sanctuaries to Michael appeared in the 4th century, when he was first seen as a healing angel, and then over time as a protector and the leader of the army of God against the forces of evil. Wiki
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@2good2btrue & @MjonMind: thank you so much for your interesting posts! bearhug
Here are some Numerology clues discussed by Front:
source: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg337568#msg337568
The sun will rise again, bigger and brighter, emblazoned in gold…like a beacon whose physical existence was provisionally "extinguished"…but never forgotten. Those "flames" are the heart of the passionate inferno of resurgence that awaits. Some things are not meant to be ascertained but to be envisaged through delicate whispers. Just as the Earth is sure to rotate on its axis, the resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story…and the truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth. Momentarily, the world will quake, for there will be a cosmic shift in "dogma". Time is of the essence, but patience is a viture in [r]evolutionary milestones. Until then, from beyond the gates of that KINGdom----> whispers shall be heard…………….
relapse back to Aug 25 2006……….today's post, Jun 11 2011
2+5=7
6+11=17…+2+1+1=21
21---> 7+7+7
2+11=13…2+6=8
13+8=21---> 7+7+7
and so the Theory of 7 continues.................
source: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg338378#msg338378
SERIOUSLY! if suspicions were entirely absent, there would DEFINITELY be something mentally askew with that picture. A circumspect approach will harvest the most profitable rewards, to those who use said approach, when the seeds that are "planted" come to fruition.
That said, I guess some people didn't sense the humor & sarcasm in my previous post. Perhaps it hasn't "simmered" long enough yet. 60-day old chili, anyone? ;)
Remember these numbers---if you don't, your understanding of the 7DT will be irretrievable and you will be perpetually "BAM"-boozled as you try to comprehend events and the why's, when's, how's, etc. etc. etc.
28…17…60…37
tuck them away in a dark, safe place in the BACK of your memory banks. Jun 11 2011 post + 60 days (+1 day of Simmering), resurrect them----> to the FRONT. My presence here may be scarce from now until then.
uhmmm…I VAGUELY recall seeing some posts touching on the subject of how it's "possible" that meticulously planned events/dates, such as the Pure Genius that we are dealing with here in the wake of 6-25-09, "MIGHT" not have been in the planning stages for an extensive period of time. Please allow me to state my opinion on that……….
suspicious//
:lol:
:twisted:
:?
p.s. lolol/
source: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg338557#msg338557
Past, present & future
Hi(s)Story shall be told
dates, events, numbers intertwine
and whispers shall unfold……….
Voyage to continue @ Aug 10 2011 (+1 day of Simmering)----> Aug 11 (777th day from Lights Out)
A vision, Aug 25 2006
Lights out, Jun 25 2009
Illumination, Jun 11 2011
Voyage continues, Aug 10 2011
Excluding (1 day of "simmering")
8-25-2006
6-25-2009
6-11-2011
8-10-2011
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28-71-80-37
17/71 (rev. in orig. post)...do the math, you get the same answer!
2+8+1+7=18…8-1=7
8+3+7=18…8-1=7
18+7=25…2+5=7
----> 777
tHE sun begInS to dawn again on the sEven day tHEoRy………………
source: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=5167.msg338495#msg338495
777.........
28…17…80…37
Plz compute the calculations, execute the numbers, and please Keep Watchin'..........
p.s. first one...ready?
2+8+1+7=18…8-1=7
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----> 777
p.s.s. 777th day from "Lights Out"...dates/numbers will shed tremendous "BACK"light, and he who seeks understanding shall receive it.
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When they first met, in November 1959,
Elvis was 24 years old [8+8+8]
and Priscilla was 14 1/2 years old [7+7]
Priscilla was born on May 24, 1945
Michael's birthday in 2012: August 29th, 2012: 8+2+9+2+1+2 = 24 [8+8+8]
Michael turns 54 years old; 5+4 = 9
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source link: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=11061.msg183996#msg183996
Elvis & MJ Numerology
{http://http://www.lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page33}
This redirect was on the 8th day of the month, because 8 is the primary number in the Elvis “death” numerology. Elvis “died” on 8-16-1977. The month and day add up to 24 (8 + 16= 24); and the year adds up to 24 (1 + 9 + 7 + 7 = 24). And 24 is 8 + 8 + 8 (888); similar to the MJ numerology 777 & 999 (see below). Elvis was also born on the 8th day of the month (1-8-1935). And Elvis/Jesse has confirmed that this numerology and exact “death” date was planned, and done intentionally {http://http://www.lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page15}.
Since MJ learned from Elvis: this proves that the MJ numerology was also planned, and is not some astronomical coincidence. Since it was planned, then this shows once again that the numerology does indeed explain some of the reasons for the MJ death hoax. Below is a brief overview of some of the MJ numerology. {For more details, see: http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7064; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7124; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9994}.
MJ had “777” on his red shirt in “THIS IS IT” {also on the History album cover, etc; http://http://mocha-soul.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MichaelJackson-History-Frontal2.jpg}.
MJ had 1998 on the cover of the Dangerous album, and also signed this number on many autographs. 1998 / 2 = 999; 1 + 998 = 999, 1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27, 2 + 7 = 9; etc. Also, “THIS IS IT” has three vowels, III = 999 (9th letter of the alphabet).
The “death” was 77 days from 9-9-09 (999), and the burial was 7 days from 9-9-09; this makes three sevens (777) linked directly with 9-9-09. {Note: you must use inclusive reckoning; see 4-10 in Update #4b, http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7064}. The burial was on a full moon (to the naked eye), and one day before the official full moon.
The memorial was on the 7th day of the 7th month, 7 years after the date on the will; again, three sevens (777). The memorial was also on a full moon (the official full moon, in this case).
And there are three sevens (777) in the timing of the 911 call (12:21) and the “death” (2:26). Also, the 911 call was placed at 12:21, because this number is divisible by 111—along with almost all of the MJ hoax numbers; in fact, “THIS IS IT” is 111 minutes long. Finally, the 12:21 call relates to the date 12-21-2012.
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Elvis & MJ “Death” Dates Equal Concert Intro
{http://http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/06/08/tiai-thisisalsoit-elvisjesse-numerology-link/}
Add the day, month, and year together: 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001. This is the name of a film about space, which was a favourite of Elvis—so much so, that he used the song from it to open his concerts {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film); http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Also_sprach_Zarathustra_(Richard_Strauss)}.
Did MJ learn about this as well, and incorporate the same numerology clue into his own fake death? Yes, indeed he did! 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040. This is the year that MJ had clearly shown on the bottom of the space ship, in his concert intro! {See 0:15, http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mkzqdx021k; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=10685}
This again proves that MJ planned his “death” to the very day, many years ago (as I have said all along). And why would 6-25-2009 need to be the exact day? Not for the memorial on 7-7-09; the “death” could’ve been before or after 6-25, and still had the memorial on the full moon July 7. It’s because 6-25-09 is the only day that is 77 days from 9-9-09; and this locks in 999 with the MJ numerology, as well as 1998 and all the rest.
If there are still some who say that they don’t believe in the numbers: don’t let them off the hook that easily; be nice, but be firm! Ask why they don’t believe in the numbers; and ask them to calculate the odds that these numbers were all coincidence. If they are not mathematical, then find a math teacher! If they really want to know the truth, and they are truly investigating, then this is the way to find out the truth. But if they don’t want to bother with any of this, then it would show that the real problem is not in the numbers; the real problem is that they don’t want the truth.
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If there are still some who say that they don’t believe in the numbers
Of cours i believe in numbers and there is no coincidence :)
ooops i have three 8 and one 7 in my date of birth party/ elvis_/ moonwalk_/
Thanks Sim
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Did you guys notice that TS wrote exactly 24 posts on this forum?
His last post was on December 2010 or November 2010 (according to the time zone!), here on this thread:
TIai update #6.5: Michael & Elvis, DOUBle-scam from TS??
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=16148.msg274421#msg274421
Now taking into consideration the incredible amount of NO. 24 connections (MJ, Elvis, Lisa, Priscilla, etc...) that I've been discussing on this thread and others, does anyone think that TS-24 posts is accidental?
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@AKHTONI: I know what you mean! you won't believe how many numerological occurrences there are in my life too! Starting with my birth-date to any other date you might think of! In my case, there is also no. 8 in my birthday date, I have some 7s in my life too (for ex.: to go to my office, I need 2 KEYS :lol: guess what numbers they are! YESS no. 7 & no. 8!! :lol: and to TOP it all off , for the past 20+ years I've been living in apartment no. 21 [777]!!! ) and there are many other examples...
But the predominance is of no. 3 and no. 9 in anything number-connected to my life. For instance the total sum of my birth-date is 30 [3] and I could go on like this forever...
I had never realized these things ^^ Before I studied the hoax numerology I would have said this is just crazy random stuff!! Now I don't what to believe anymore! I'm not scared, but I am not calm either loll :lol: :lol: it's really mind-boggling! :shock:
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Hey SIM OMG! i am in shock :o afraid/ i almost fell off my chair afraid/ . i don't know if you know this or not but i found something very interesting and it's about an unreleased song called WE ARE THE KINGS written by MICHAEL JACKSON in 2005 "again (2005=2+5=7)" and Recorded by Jackson Featuring Madonna, Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake in 2008. and guess what ! Contains a fragment of an unreleased song of Elvis Presley. . I am ALL SHOOK UP elvis_/ moonwalk_/
HERE IS THE LINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_Michael_Jackson_material
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That is interesting! Thanks for sharing, @AKHTONI!
Where exactly is that on the link?
Is there any audio/video link to that song?
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SimPattyK,
You found another 24. TS has had 24 posts since December 2010. It seems like he/she wants to keep it at 24 on purpose because nothing was added since 2010. The number 24 is important. I am thinking it has to do with the number of chromosomes in the blood that Ron Wyatt found on the ark. What else do you think it could be ??
I'm getting so excited and happy over this and can hardly concentrate on my work lately. I'm going to try to read and "let it simmer".
Love You
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Yes, Dontwalkaway, I think TS' number of posts (24) is intentionally left that way... And it most probably also relates to the 24 chromosomes from Sign 1 . Unless it's a big coincidence! loll which I highly doubt ! lol :lol:
And I am as excited as you are! with all these 24s popping up from everywhere lol I am intrigued, I can't wait to see where this is all going to!! Can't wait for the next Signs!
much love to you! bearhug
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SimPatty, are you aware that the Mayan calendar jumpsuit that Elvis Presley wore on his last performance, has the calendar 16/8 on it?
Sixteen outer points and eight inner points.........this being the day that he "died"...??
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I like how TS's capital letters also spell, "TIME DOUBTS"!
Also here's my little contribution to the numbers.
Prince 2 + 13 + 1997 = 5
Paris 4 + 3 + 1998 = 7
Blanket 2 + 21 + 2002 = 9
5 + 7 + 9 = 21 = 777 or 3
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SimPatty, are you aware that the Mayan calendar jumpsuit that Elvis Presley wore on his last performance, has the calendar 16/8 on it?
Sixteen outer points and eight inner points.........this being the day that he "died"...??
aaaaaaaaaaa afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ aaaaaaaaaIIIII didn't know about thAAAAAAt !!
woowww! penguin/ penguin/ penguin/
Elvis is a GENIUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS elvis_/
thank you @2good2btrue ! God bless you!!! bearhug
@MJonMind: wow! great find!!! Didn't know about kids' birthdates either! never occured to me to do some numerology on their dates! incredible! thank you dear!! bearhug
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Interesting... rather mind bugging video by Ipadua11
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFPW2fErGqY&feature=g-all-f&context=G2190e27FAAAAAAAAaAA[/youtube]
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POST EDIT:
The List of AUGUST "coincidences" lol :lol:
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August 4th, 2011 - the Jacksons announced Cardiff Tribute for MJ (held-Oct. 8th 2011)
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^^ ERROR correction: as you can see on my montage below, the tribute was not announced that day, I recalled badly! sorry!
I just checked and it was the Ticket registration announced for the August 4th, 2011.
Anyway the "coincidence" is still there!
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I need to share with you some very interesting discoveries made by our beloved
Wishingstar, my sweet little hoax-sis' ;) bearhug
I will share with you 4 of her posts that she had made last year and that for
unknown reasons were forgotten and I think many of you would be interested in reading them!
This is the 1st one:
1. Coincidences.....?
Post by wishingstar » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:47 pm
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10681
OK...I know numbers are not all that popular...lol! I am not really a numbers person myself.
However, what I am going to share with you is quite a few, "coincidences"!
This might be a little long so hold on tight, it's going to be a bumpy ride!
I few weeks ago I started looking into the meaning of words, specifically words associated with Michael.
I stumbled across the typical word calculator sites. One caught my eye, in particular.
http://www.wordcalculator.co.uk
For about 2-3 weeks I'd hang on that site and plug in words related to MJ or the hoax.
The results were amazing. The word calculator worked very simply....a=1, b=2, c=3 etc.
I know this has been on here....but I think I have gotten a little deeper. So I used the site, right?
After about about 2-3 weeks.....it posted a general "good-bye, thanks for visiting, this site is
going away" note, signed by someone named William.
Now the site is completely gone, does not exist. Good thing I wrote down all the words,
numbers and associated words/phrases that also matched.
The site allowed me to type in a word. The site would then give me the, "number" of the word,
plus any other words or phrases that would also match that same number.
For instance, I typed, "Michael" it came back with the number 51 and the words: saved, share,
cured and Rome. How interesting?
I am going to now list out most of the other words. I will put the number, the word I typed in,
then the words/phrases that came back to me.
Ready?
113=This Is it= prediction, dream-world
113= Propofol= prediction, dream-world
113= Auditory= prediction, dream-world
93= Diprivan= desperate, passion, writer, Mozart, poster, audition, Wacko Jacko, Louvre
73=Jackson= crazy, loves, patience
73=Joseph= crazy, loves, patience
30= Joe= peace, baby
79=Billie Jean= paradox, remember, listen
102= Thriller= world-peace, flashlight
57= Beat It= England, changes
127= Moonwalker= the-real-thing
107= Earth Song= Aquarius
175=Man In The Mirror= your-destiny
69=Kenny=message, i-believe, ghost, saved-me
69= Beyonce
110=Adventure= look-for-me, wait-for-me (I kid you not guys!)
127= Black or White= the-real-thing
132= Army of LOVE= live-to-tell
78= Army of= start, genesis
54=LOVE= play, our
114= History= prisoner, the-beginning
75= Shamone= friends, genius, marry
103= piece-by-piece= have-faith-in
92= fire engine= I-believe-in, look-for, wait-for
92= Staples
65= Center= stay, save-me, music, Vienna, seven, Pepsi
65= Prince, Blanket
65=Bamsday
63= Paris= try, i-love
63= Ireland
77= Simmer= wants, power, wake-up
87= truth= dream-link, is-a-feeling
135= shall prevail= bring-me-to-life (this freaked me out!)
50= tomb=June 15 2010, flesh
120= Doppelganger= Illuminati, Archangel Michael, planet Earth
82= backwards= Mr. Magoo, Earth Day
49= Carol= alive, escape
57= Wood= England, Beat It, deceived, fooled, actor
124=shove-a-fist= Michael Jackson, mad-tea-party
110= wonderland= adventure, summer of 2010
I have so much more......let me know if you want them........I will be happy to post......they are amazing coincidences.
I also plugged in a few numbers:
7= Bad
17= Back
71= dreaming, spider
71= John Doe (interesting that the ambulance had 71 on it)
When I lost use of that website, I found another http://www.gematrix.org
it has been very useful with this adventure! Gematria seems to be the term for this.
Just a little more...........
Remember the sunflowers at the tomb? Remember the frame? Why a frame?
(a big thanks to lilwendy's investigation for posting the pic!)
I teach art history to kids, so I immediately thought Van Gogh when I saw it
on TMZ.....lilwendy reminded me of it :D
74= Van Gogh = Gematria, London
152=sunflowers=double-trouble, eyes-open-and-see, the-secret-sign
142=sun shower= seventh-sign, forty-two (Elvis' age ;) )
also in that tomb pic was something else that caught my eye....white orchids (very pretty)
122=white orchid= great-deceiver (no disrespect to our fellow hoxie : white_orchid) ;)
I think that's more than enough for one post.......I get going and going and going.....sorry!
I have another post coming....about the garbage cans and plates! Blessings to all..........
2. The rest of the coincidences.....
Post by wishingstar » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:15 pm
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10681
95= Neverland= is-the-one, discover, Halloween, film-making, duplicated
38 = TII = death, Africa, change
113 = Captain Hook = This Is It, prediction, dream-world, auditory, propofol (form the first post)
39=angel= mate, team, cardiac
81= arrest= beginning, another
120= cardiac arrest= Illuminati, doppelganger, Archangel Michael, Planet Earth (from 1st post)
51= find me = Michael (from the first post)
143= Wizard of Oz = change-the-world, it-takes-two
95= Peter Pan= is-the-one, have-no-fear
82= backwards= a-beginning, love-is
37= UCLA= dies, begin, Dubai
91= in July= a-reality, future, mirror
133= forest lawn= everything, you-love-me, is-the-reason, is-so-amazing
124= I love you= the-future, the mirror, Michael Jackson (from 1st post)
73= Sony= crazy, loves, patience, Jackson (from 1st)
90= make believe= reality, real-love
41=garbage= dream, lock, key, help
83= Monkey= connected, believe-in, waiting, lonely
58= Please= drive, is-peace, feeling, in-reach, two
41=Help= dream, lock, key, garbage ("monkey please help"-Paris' you tube vid)
71= demanding= dreaming, spider, john doe (from 1st post)
110= Christmas= accidental death, adventure, summer of 2010
175= it is all for love= man in the mirror, your destiny
I spelled out a few words:
believe = 60 in Gematria I spelled it out....
97=sixty=the Beatles, airport
o2 arena I spelled out otwo
73=otwo=jackson
That's most of it......very odd coincidences.....if I find more, I'll post them :D
(sorry about my paragraphs......I'm a newbie lol) Have a great day!
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3. Garbage Cans and the "Perfect Date"
Post by wishingstar » June 09, 2010, 04:36:52 AM
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=10709.msg178462#msg178462
Garbage cans at Carolwood:
4 black 2 blue 3 green 1 blue 3 green
that adds to 13....not too much to go on. Could it be
4 dots, 2 dots, 3 dots, 1 dot, 3 dots? A code of some sort? Maybe.
I am a visual person and see patterns in many things. This just bugs me.
I started adding.........then used the Gematria site I talked about in my "Coincidences...?" post
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10681
take 4+2=6
take 3+1+3=7
put them together......67
just for the heck of it I plugged 67 into the Gematria site: (hope you are sitting down :D )
67=evidence, pharaoh, Italy, exchange, Elvis
remember 67....i will show you something at the end of this post........
Garbage cans at the burial:
2 orange 1 blue 2 orange 1 grey
that adds up to 6 ...... interesting enough.
put it together 2121 or 21 21 a whole bunch of 7's
there is more.........
21+21=42 .... Elvis' age at death or
2+1=3 and 2+1=3 you get 33
33 is magic in Gematria (interesting again)
if you take 2121 and add it like this:
2+121=123 I plugged in 123 for the Gematria site:
123= magical-realism, the Holy Bible, Rock and Roll
Now back to the number 67 for a minute (remember what other words are for 67) :
today's redirect for TIAI is about numerology and the "Perfect Date"
Let's look at June 25, 2009
first off in with Gematria....June=50 LOL! However.....for now let's look at this:
June is also the 6th month (6-25-2009) 6 with 2+5=7 we get 67 (but that's not all)
2009, the year. 2+9=11 not too much with the number 11
I spelled out eleven with Gematria
63= eleven = reveal
so, with June 25, 2009 one way to break it down is
6-25 or 67 ( Elvis)
2009 is eleven also: reveal
Elvis Reveal
I love the quote that has shown up twice on redirects lately.
"Those who don't understand my silence will probably not understand my words."
I can't help but think we are losing one King, but getting another back, Elvis. I pray we are getting two Kings back!!!!!
Soon and very soon.......how awesome would that be!!!! :D
Blessings!
4. License Plates
Post by wishingstar » June 10, 2010, 05:10:30 AM
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=10734.msg178939#msg178939
I focused in on the ambulance license plates and the coroner van plates.
Let's look at the ambulance plates:
I stopped the video and got the number
1261551 (seven numbers...I think it's a CA thing.....lucky for MJ)
guess what that adds up to? 21 :D
another interesting way to look at it was to use the number 1's as spacers, not numbers:
1 26 1 55 1
2+6=8 5+5=10
could be 8-10 a date? MJ's birth month......
could be 18 (remember that number)
Call me crazy if you must......but I played around on that gematria site......
26= game, lie, hide, God
55= December 2012, trap, Conrad, Satan
just funny coincidences........?
Now let's look at the coroner van plates.
It was harder to stop the videos, but after looking at it several dozen times.
I always came up with seeing this number as the plate:
1276020 (seven numbers again.....true coincidence)
guess what that adds up to? 18
looking at the number 18 it could be
1 < 8 = 7
1 + 8 = 9
both interesting numbers in the hoax
Crazy me again....here goes gematria game time:
18= me, die, mad
or, if I spell "eighteen"........
73= eighteen= Joseph, Egypt, living, kingdom, children, Britain, circus, Sony, Jackson
PS> I talked about the use of gematria on a thread called "Coincidences....?" (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10681)
It's basically simple number values to words (a=1, b=2 etc.)
That's about it for now......
Blessings to you all and thank you!!!
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Making of MJ 2040 -History tour - time capsule
During Michael's very "HIStory" tour, at the beginning of each show, Michael would appear from a space capsule. Below the capsule door it read: "MJ 2040".
If we add up the numbers that appear in the date of his death (6 + 2 5 + 2009) we get: 2040.
Elvis started his last concert with a 2001 space Odyssey song.
In both cases the sum of the day month and year of their death is equal to the year of their concert intro.
Elvis 16 + 8 + 1977 = 2001;
Michael 25 + 6+ 2009 = 2040
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CELNk9L7Ys&feature=share[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yQsIy9jsSk [/youtube]
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SOURCE: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/elvispresley_michaeljackson_connections.php
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Elvis - Moody Blue "Blue Vinyl"
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Moody Blue is the title of Elvis Presley's last album to be released in his lifetime.
The album was a mixture of live and studio work, and included tracks from Presley's final studio recording sessions in 1976, including "Moody Blue", a previously released hit, and "Way Down," which would become a hit after Presley's death less than a month after the album's release.
As described in Elvis: The Illustrated Record, RCA was not able to obtain sufficient new studio material for a complete album (most of Presley's 1976 studio output having already been used in the previous album, From Elvis Presley Boulevard, Memphis, Tennessee) and chose to augment the remaining available works with three live tracks recorded in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on April 24, 1977, including a version of "Unchained Melody" which would be the album's third single, released posthumously.
RCA and producer Felton Jarvis had booked for January 1977 a recording studio in Nashville to cut some new tracks for this album. Elvis had chosen a few numbers to record with the help of Jarvis, most of them were rather country and uptempo. Unfortunately, Elvis never showed up at the session, claiming he was sick and stayed home (a trick he had often used in the 60's to avoid recording bad soundtracks for his films).
Jarvis and RCA had nothing to do then but to fill the album with the live tracks mentioned above. Also included is a live performance of "Let Me Be There" which had already been released three years earlier on the album Elvis: As Recorded Live on Stage in Memphis.
The track "Moody Blue" was released as a single in early 1977 and reached #1 on the Billboard Country Singles Chart and #31 Pop. "Way Down" was then released as the next single in the early summer of 1977.
It did not go very far on the charts but it soared to #18 after Elvis Presley's death in August (#1 in United Kingdom).
It was a bigger hit on the country charts, and had risen to the #1 position the same week of Elvis' death.
The album reached #3 on the Billboard album charts after his death although it had already cracked the top 40 before he died, the last Elvis album to crack the TOP 40 had been a live album in 1974.
It was also a #1 album on the Country Albums chart.
RCA pressed the album in blue vinyl, to match the title track. Since colored vinyl pressings were relatively rare and almost never occurred in a wide release, this has led to collectors mistakenly assuming blue-vinyl Moody Blue albums are collectors items, when in fact the true collectables were early pressings in standard black vinyl. (Later pressings of Moody Blue were, however, on standard black vinyl.)
Following Elvis' death, "Unchained Melody" was released as a single, and peaked at #6 on the Country charts.
Side A
1. "Unchained Melody" (Alex North, Hy Zaret)
2. "If You Love Me (Let Me Know)" (John Rostill)
3. "Little Darlin'" (Maurice Williams)
4. "He'll Have to Go" (Joe Allison, Audrey Allison)
5. "Let Me Be There" (John Rostill)
Side B
1. "Way Down" (Layng Martine, Jr.)
2. "Pledging My Love" (Don Robey, Ferdinand Washington)
3. "Moody Blue" (Mark James)
4. "She Thinks I Still Care" (Dickey Lee Lipscomb)
5. "It's Easy for You" (Andrew Lloyd Webber, Tim Rice) - http://www.koolkatjazz.com/catalog/elvis-moody-blue-blue-vinyl-p-250.html
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In all the movies where Elvis played the role of a speed race pilot, the cars or vehicles had some interesting NUMBERS on them!
6
7
9
99
11
Funny how in the movie "Viva Las Vegas" his role's name was Jackson and in the movie "Spinout" his role name is MIKE :lol:
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Back's numerology
Interesting thread to read!! ;)
62...76...813...21 "roll the dice" like "Back"-back posts 6/26&27/2006
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21878.0.html
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Another 42 !
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MKVv18IPw4&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=17&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
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Just as a reminder... some good videos by MagicalXcapism , on numbers....
7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0uBd_BqS14&noredirect=1[/youtube]
11
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmx3cOTVqJw&feature=related&noredirect=1[/youtube]
Number theory
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XccyPodzc-g&feature=my_favorites&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&noredirect[/youtube]=1
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GREAT video !! about number 24 & 2001 ;)
ELVIS PRESLEY: NUMEROLOGICAL PHENOMENON - 2001
ELVIS 2001- NUMEROLOGICAL PHENOMENON - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yQsIy9jsSk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
Numerology is the BEST clue that Mj & Elvis are ALIVE !
Michael birth date August 29th 1958: 8+2+9+1+9+5+8 = 42[no. 7 six times 777 777 ---) 6 x 7=42];
42 - the age Elvis "died";
42 is the reverse of 24
MJ supposedly “died” on June 25th 2009: 6 + 2 + 5 + 2 + 9 = 24 [888 - Elvis!]
Elvis supposedly “died” on August 16th 1977: 8 + 1 + 6 + 1+ 9 + 7 + 7 = 39; [39 ---) 3 nines: 999]
month + day: 16+8 = 24[888 ---) 3X8=24] ;
year: 1+9+7+7 =24
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Interesting... rather mind bugging video by Ipadua11
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFPW2fErGqY&feature=g-all-f&context=G2190e27FAAAAAAAAaAA[/youtube]
Have a look at about 4:00 of this video with Bashir......the numbers on the cars:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GowxEuprbcE&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
Ah....coincidences, gotta love them, LOL!!!!
Blessings
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Woooowwwwww......
guys you are soooooooo clever :smiley_abuv:
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I think Michael Jackson and his number 33 is related to Jesus Christ's age when he died (33)
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I don't know know if it's been said, lot's have been added so I might have missed it..
The autopsy date being wrong..... 8+25 = 33...... If you use 2009 and devide it by 33 you get 60.87878787878788 Plenty of 7's and 8's in there don't you think? :P
Also I saw last night a thread about Murrays realise date, and was going to respond but had to wait for approval so had to wait, I haven't rechecked it yet but will do but if you devide 2013 by 28 then devide again by 10 you get you get 7.. well 7.1 probably nothing but it's worth putting down somewhere :p
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NUMBER 50
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Excs_dWvqus&feature=plcp[/youtube]
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50? Interesting....
Michael Jackson started his singing career with Jackson 5 around 1964..."before Michaels Sixth birthday: which means before August...
So in the first half of 2014 before August it will be the mark of 50 years since the Jackson 5 came into existant and singing motown.
Isn't there something about Tupac coming back apparently in 2014?
It's interesting..
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I was having some slight road rage this afternoon when I was driving home from work as there was this reallllly slow car in front of me. Then I saw it's license plate - BAM 888 - and had to laugh.
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NO. 7, Taryll & Paris Jackson, Riley Keough Presley ---> "Code Z The Zombie Series" -->
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dt_jaTEHniU[/youtube]
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