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Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: MyMindseye on December 23, 2009, 02:30:36 AM
Hi I dont post or reply much but rest assured I read everything related to Michael and his mission which is now my mission as well I want to help Him in whatever way possible to help Michael is to help ourselves, our children and grandchildren. I copy pages on pages then I read and re read taking apart every word. IMO the NWO, Heal the World, 2012 , The Hoax etc are all one in the same each needs the other they all play thier role in Michael getting the messege across to WAKE UP :shock:  and take back our minds as our own stop letting the media and govts spoonfeed us BS that could be leading to something terrible if not in our time our children's time? Grandchildren's time? My daughters are grown women now but my grandaughter Madison is only 5 and I will do whatever it takes not to leave her with a bigger disaster when she grows up. I have loved Michael all my life he is the bestfriend I never met he has never let me down, he has always been able to comfort, enspire and support me with his music, speeches and interviews and he loves without condition and has never asked for anything in return"Before you judge me try hard to live me"-MJ Whoever has to try to love Michael will be the ones that will never know who Michael truley is and what he stands for. You are not Alone Michael, Your Friend Always ...
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: letta51 on December 23, 2009, 04:56:15 AM
I still believe.  I see nothing wrong with bible verses in the TIAI Parts.  It can relate to what this person is saying.  If you are looking for a pacific date, then you will not find it.  I personally thought that the TIAI was intersting reading, even though I already and a beLIEver that Michael is alive.  If this is not what you are intersted in maybe you should pass it up.  I feel whomever this person writing TIAI parts, took a lot of time to provide us with lots of information here and I am thankful for.  Keep doing what you do best and keeping Michael fans informed.

Thank you
Love & Peace. :roll:
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: paula-c on December 23, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
I'll post the Mayan prophecies, as a way of understanding Referred to in no time talk about the end of the world is little long but good read.

First Prophecy

The world of hatred and materialism will end on Saturday 22 December 2012 and with it the end of fear, in this day mankind will disappear as a choice between thinking species that threatens to destroy the planet or move towards harmonious integration with the whole universe, understanding and becoming aware of everything is alive and that we are part of that whole and that we can exist in a new era of light.

The first prophecy tells us that after 1999 we still have 13 years to make changes in consciousness and attitude to deviate from the path of destruction on the move, to one that opens our consciousness and our mind to integrate with everything that exists . The Mayans knew that our sun is a living being that breathes and that every so often synchronized with the enormous body in which it exists, on receipt of a flash of light from the center of the galaxy shines more intensely, producing in the surface which our scientists called solar flares and magnetic changes, they say this happens every 5125 years, that land is affected by changes in the sun by a shift of its axis of rotation, and predicted from the movement to produce large cataclysms, the Maya universal processes such as breathing in the galaxy are cyclical and never change, what changes is the consciousness of man that passes through them, always in a process to perfection (remember the message of Jesus Christ in the Bible: "Be perfect as is his father in the kingdom of heaven"). The Mayans predicted that on Saturday December 22 2012 the sun to get a strong beam synchronizer from the center of the galaxy will change its polarization and produce a huge bright flash. Thus humanity must be prepared to cross the door that the Maya left us, transforming modern civilization based on fear in a much higher vibration of harmony, only individually can cross the door that avoids the great cataclysm who suffer the planet to begin a new era, in sixth cycle of the sun.

The first prophecy talks about the time of no time, a period of 20 years starting in 1992 and ending in 2012, where mankind would enter into the last period of great learning, great changes. Also announced that seven years after the beginning of this period would start an era of darkness that face us all with our own behavior, said that words of his priests would be heard by all of us as a guide to awaken, they call this time as long as mankind will enter the great hall of mirrors, a time of changes to meet the man himself to do that between the great hall of mirrors and look at it, and analyze their behavior with the same, with others, with nature and the planet where you live. A time for all mankind by conscious decision each of us chooses to change, eliminate fear and lack of respect for all our relationships.


First Prophecy

The world of hatred and materialism will end on Saturday 22 December 2012 and with it the end of fear, in this day mankind will disappear as a choice between thinking species that threatens to destroy the planet or move towards harmonious integration with the whole universe, understanding and becoming aware of everything is alive and that we are part of that whole and that we can exist in a new era of light.

The first prophecy tells us that after 1999 we still have 13 years to make changes in consciousness and attitude to deviate from the path of destruction on the move, to one that opens our consciousness and our mind to integrate with everything that exists . The Mayans knew that our sun is a living being that breathes and that every so often synchronized with the enormous body in which it exists, on receipt of a flash of light from the center of the galaxy shines more intensely, producing in the surface which our scientists called solar flares and magnetic changes, they say this happens every 5125 years, that land is affected by changes in the sun by a shift of its axis of rotation, and predicted from the movement to produce large cataclysms, the Maya universal processes such as breathing in the galaxy are cyclical and never change, what changes is the consciousness of man that passes through them, always in a process to perfection (remember the message of Jesus Christ in the Bible: "Be perfect as is his father in the kingdom of heaven"). The Mayans predicted that on Saturday December 22 2012 the sun to get a strong beam synchronizer from the center of the galaxy will change its polarization and produce a huge bright flash. Thus humanity must be prepared to cross the door that the Maya left us, transforming modern civilization based on fear in a much higher vibration of harmony, only individually can cross the door that avoids the great cataclysm who suffer the planet to begin a new era, in sixth cycle of the sun.

The first prophecy talks about the time of no time, a period of 20 years starting in 1992 and ending in 2012, where mankind would enter into the last period of great learning, great changes. Also announced that seven years after the beginning of this period would start an era of darkness that face us all with our own behavior, said that words of his priests would be heard by all of us as a guide to awaken, they call this time as long as mankind will enter the great hall of mirrors, a time of changes to meet the man himself to do that between the great hall of mirrors and look at it, and analyze their behavior with the same, with others, with nature and the planet where you live. A time for all mankind by conscious decision each of us chooses to change, eliminate fear and lack of respect for all our relationships.


 
Third Prophecy

The third prophecy Maya says a heat wave raises the temperature of the planet, causing climatic changes, geological and social conditions in an unprecedented scale, and an amazing speed, the Mayans say that rising temperatures will by several factors, one of them generated by man that its lack of harmony with nature can only produce self-destructive processes, others will be generated by the sun to speed up their activity by increased vibration produces more radiation, increasing the temperature of the planet.

This warning of the third prophecy of the Maya, it is urgent and urgent change in behavior, both individually and collectively to make a commitment to the daily practice of actions that help improve the ecology of the planet to achieve the full harmony of the act of humans with the environment, knowing that human behavior is crucial to overcome the general increase in temperature caused by his own unconscious and predatory behavior.


Fourth Prophecy

The fourth prophecy said that as a result of increased temperature caused by human anti-environmental behavior and increased activity of the sun, will cause a meltdown at the poles (and recent press release we had a block of polar ice the size of the territory the state of Tlaxcala is located in Mexican territory), if the sun increases their activity levels above normal will have a greater production of solar wind, but massive eruptions from the sun's corona, an increase in the irradiation and an increase in global temperature. The Maya were based on 584-day rotation of Venus to calibrate their estimates solar planet Venus is easily visible in the sky, as its orbit lies between Earth and sun. They left recorded in the Dresden codex every 117 turns of Venus marked every time that appears in the same spot in the sky, the sun undergoes alterations, are enormous spots or eruptions of solar wind every 5125 years warned that changes occur even older, and that when this happens the man should be alert, is the harbinger of change and destruction. The codex also contains a number Desdre kins 1366560 which has a gap of 20 years with the figure shown in the Temple of the Cross in Palenque, which is carved the figure of 1,366,540 kin, this difference corresponds to the time they called time not time, is it that we are living since 1992, changes in solar activity will be stronger because we have the protections that are weakening global level, the electromagnetic shield that covers us is decreasing its intensity.
We do know that many things we want will not happen and eventually causing great tragedies occur, we must focus on producing positive results of our actions and at the same time grow with the difficulties before us, we take life and make our decisions so conscious, we must open our eyes to the possibilities that can bring us a world in which everyone blames others for what happens.

All the prophecies seeking to change the mind of man, for the universe is creating all these processes for humanity across the galaxy expands understanding the fundamental integrity that exists.

Fifth Prophecy

This prophecy tells us that all systems based on fear is based on what our civilization will be transformed simultaneously with the planet and the man to make way for a new reality in harmony, man is convinced that the universe exists only for him, that humanity is the only intelligent life expression, and therefore acts as a predator that is. The systems will fail to meet the man himself and make him see the need to reorganize society and continue on the path of evolution, which takes us to understand creation. The new day is announced by galactic all religions and cults as a time of peace and harmony for all mankind, is clear then that everything that does not produce this result should disappear or be transformed, the new age of light can have no humanity based military economy dictates of truth by force.

Sixth Prophecy

The sixth Maya prophecy says that in the coming years will see a comet whose trajectory will endanger the very existence of man, the Maya saw the comet as change agents who came to set in motion the balance to allow certain structures are processed the evolution of collective consciousness, all things have their rightful place in all circumstances, even the most adverse are perfect for generating understanding of life to develop awareness of the creation by this man has constantly faced with situations unexpected that create suffering, is a way to get to reflect on their relationship with the world and with others, and along many lives understand the universal laws of reason of creation, for the Mayans, God is the presence of life that has all the forms and their presence is infinite.

The comet of the speaker's sixth prophecy was also announced by many religions and cultures, for example the Bible in the Book of Revelations is the name of absinthe. If the comet appears, it is possible that your path takes you to hit the ground, or also through physical or mental managed to divert his path (recent reports speak of a massive asteroid has been discovered in space in its path can hit the ground in the coming years), comets have always been part of the solar system, thousands of waste through, cross, rub, come and go regularly and even collide with the planets moving in regular orbits always peaceful, some the sun.

The Mayans always studied and recorded the events of the sky, his warning was to prevent the man from the dangers of not knowing the orbits and periods of heavy residues that intersect with the known trajectory of the earth, they knew that for modern man to discover advance a big asteroid that could cause its extinction and then divert it would be one of the greatest achievements of human history and a crucial event that would unite us as a species. Formerly the celestial sphere was the domain of the gods, the sudden appearance of an unknown object which dominated the night was a source of fear and mysticism, that is why the Mayans built observatories dedicated to studying the phenomena, they wanted to understand the unpredictable movements in the sky , especially after they established the positions of the planets and stars. The imminent danger to the sixth prophecy warns us force us to build a level of international cooperation, to establish a system of command and control over countries and a global communication structure would be the only way for countries to waive their sovereignty to an identity as the United Nations, leading to a world government for the common good, would be a change to learn to transcend the separation that is the foundation of our society.


 
Seventh Omen

The Maya Prophecy tells of time in which the solar system in its cyclical turning out at night to dawn will come into the galaxy, says that the 13 years from 1999 to 2012 the light emitted from the galaxy to synchronize all living beings and allows them to voluntarily enter an inner transformation that produces new realities, which all humans have the opportunity to change and break their limitations, receiving a new meaning: communication through thought, men who are voluntarily his state of inner peace, bringing your life energy, bringing its internal vibrational frequency of fear to love, can capture and express themselves through thought and the bloom on new meaning.

The energy of the transmitted beam from the center of the active galaxy the genetic code of divine origin in men who are in a high vibration frequency, this effect extended the coexistence of all people, actually generating a new individual, collective and universal one of the biggest changes will happen at the global level, since all the men connected to each other as a single whole, will create a new being in the genetic order, the reintegration of the individual consciences of millions of human beings will awaken a new awareness understand that we all are part of one gigantic organism. The ability to read minds of men totally revolutionize civilization, all boundaries disappear, ending the lie forever because nobody can hide anything, will begin an era of transparency and light that can not be overshadowed by violence or any negative emotion, disappear laws and external controls such as police and army, as each will be responsible for their actions and not have to implement a right or duty by force. It will form a world government, in harmony with the wisest beings on the planet, there will be no borders or nationalities, will end the limits imposed by private property and do not need the money as a medium of exchange; be implemented technologies to manage light and energy and with them the matter will be transformed easily produce everything necessary, ending poverty forever. The excellence and spiritual development of men will result in harmony to perform the activities that vibrate higher and in doing so expand their level of understanding of universal order, with communication through thought a super immune system appears to remove the lower vibrations of fear caused by disease, prolonging the life of men, the new era of learning need not reverse contrast produced by disease and suffering that marked thousands of years of history.

The men who knowingly and willingly find inner peace, enter a new era of harmonious contrast learning, communication and reintegration will experience, individual memories and knowledge unselfishly available to all others, will be like an Internet mentally that exponentially multiplied the speed of discovery, and will create synergies never before imagined. Gone are the judgments and moral values that change with the times, like fashion, you will understand that all acts of life are a way of achieving greater understanding and harmony, respect is the fundamental element of culture, will transform the individual and the community and will place humanity at the possibility of expansion through the galaxy, the artistic community and recreation occupy the human mind, thousands of years based on the separation of men who worshiped a God who judges and distant punishes, will be transformed forever, live man galactic spring, the flowering of a new reality based on integration with the planet and all human beings at that time to understand that we are an integral part of a single gigantic organism and we will connect with land, each other, with our sun and the entire galaxy, all men will understand that the mineral, plant, animal and material scattered throughout the universe at all scales from the atom to the galaxy, are alive with an evolving consciousness, from Saturday 22 December 2012 all relations will be based on tolerance and flexibility, as the other man feel like another part of himself.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: CeeLovesMJ on December 23, 2009, 07:20:31 PM
I absolutely still believe in Michael.

You see, I have spent my entire life loving this man. He was there for me through a difficult childhood. I looked to him for safety and comfort. He was there for me through the rest of it - the good, bad and unmentionable. As I grew and developed, so did my love for him. My childhood wonder turned into something more substantial. In turn, I have been there for Michael every step of the way, through the wicked lies and evil accusations. They could never turn me against him. Oh, they tried, but failed at every turn. Although he never knew it, I was there beside him, holding his hand, cheering him on.

So I will always, always believe. Hope will remain eternal in my heart for Michael. I am but one of millions in his army of soldiers. We are so very strong and growing by the day. When he is ready to come back, to make his statement, to allow us to help him change the world, I will be there for him, with him. No matter what.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: paula-c on December 23, 2009, 07:26:10 PM
TheBenke wrote: Sorry, all the Mayas things that you said is not going to happen. Not because some people from year -20032002032 is telling suddendly the world is ending in 2012 that we are necessarly obligated to listen to them.

I'm not posting because i believe in these things blindly, only for who is interested in reading it and compare with the movie
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: mjlovebug on December 28, 2009, 06:35:58 AM
I still believe. It was kind of TS to share this info with us. I'm sure it must have taken a lot of work.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 28, 2009, 06:51:54 AM
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: larab on December 28, 2009, 07:12:17 AM
I don't.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on January 03, 2010, 12:08:21 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: superflysister81 on January 03, 2010, 12:50:20 PM
I still believe....
I have a question :
Does anyone of you have a copy of the dvd version? I mean, a downloaded copy of TII with special features...
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: Guest on January 03, 2010, 01:14:09 PM
@paula-c : sorry, you double posted the first prophecy and left out the second.....
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: paula-c on January 03, 2010, 08:04:31 PM
Sorry, now I realize, thanks lala :mrgreen:

Second Prophecy

It announced that all the conduct of mankind change rapidly from the solar eclipse of 11 August 1999, and that day we saw a ring of fire against the sky, an eclipse was unprecedented in history, by the cosmic alignment with center cross in the land of almost all the planets of the solar system, is positioned in the four signs of the zodiac, which are the signs of the four Evangelists, the four guardians of the throne to star in the Apocalypse of St. John.

Furthermore, the shadow cast by the moon on the earth passed through Europe through Kosovo, then the Middle East, Iran and Iraq and later went to Pakistan and India, with its shadow seemed to predict an area of conflict and war (which has been happening on time). The Maya claimed that the eclipse from men easily lose control of his emotions or would enhance its internal peace and tolerance while avoiding conflicts.

Since then we live a time of change which is the eve of a new era, before sunrise is when the night becomes darker, the end of time is a time of great learning and conflict, war, separation and collective follies which in turn generate the destruction process and evolution, the second prophecy indicates that the energy received from the center of the galaxy will increase and accelerate the vibration in the universe to lead to greater perfection, this will produce physical changes in the sun on earth and psychological changes in humans by altering their behavior, their thinking and feeling, will transform the relations and modes of communication, economic systems, social order and justice, will change the religious beliefs and accepted values The man will face his fears and anxieties to solve them, and so can sync with the planet and the universe, and humanity will focus on the negative side and you can clearly see that thing you are doing wrong, this is her first step in changing the attitude and get drive enabling the emergence of collective consciousness, will increase the events that separate us but also those that unite us, aggression, hatred, families in solution, fighting for ideology, religion, morality or nationalism models; simultaneously more people will find peace, learn to control his emotions, the more respect will be more tolerant and understanding and find the drive, the man will come at a high level of internal energy, people with sensitivity and powers intuitive for healing, but also appear charlatans who only pretend to have economic gain at the expense of others despair. On discharge each man will be his own judge, when man enters the hall of mirrors to examine everything he did in life, is classified by the qualities you have developed in life, their behavior day after day, their behavior with others, and respect for the planet, all in line to be located as they are, they retain their harmony understand what happens as a process of evolution in the universe, however there will be other than by ambition, fear and frustration blame others or God for what will happen, will generate situations of destruction, death and suffering, but also give rise to conditions of solidarity and respect to others, of oneness with the planet and the cosmos.

This implies that heaven and hell will be showing at the same time, and that each human being will live in one or the other depending on their own behavior, the sky with the wisdom to transcend voluntarily everything that happens, hell with ignorance to learn from suffering, two inseparable forces, one that understands that everything in the universe evolves towards perfection, everything changes, the other wrapped in a material plane powered only selfishness. At the time of changing times, all options are available, with virtually no censorship of any kind, and moral values are more lax than ever for everyone to freely manifest as it is, the second prophecy states their most human beings change their behavior, and is synchronized with the planet, drastic changes will be neutralized following prophecies that describe, you must be aware that the man always decides his own fate, especially at this time, the prophecies are just warnings to become aware of the need to change course to avoid reality.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: IDK3MJ on January 25, 2010, 06:31:24 AM
Fo those who don't belive in MJ or TIAI-please, don't comment and don't take my time...please find another forum to post your comments...

for Believers:

I DO BELIEVE...NO MORE WORDS..if anyone has dubts - it means u haven't looked up the clues here on this side and on others....

Love U - MJ,

Yvonne
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on August 22, 2010, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...

Guys, I had a change of heart! :P Bit late, I know...but I was too quick to judge! Bring it on TS ;)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: emeraldcity on August 22, 2010, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...

Guys, I had a change of heart! :P Bit late, I know...but I was too quick to judge! Bring it on TS ;)

That's great news!  So happy for you  :D
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: bec on August 22, 2010, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...

Guys, I had a change of heart! :P Bit late, I know...but I was too quick to judge! Bring it on TS ;)

Maybe. But I like think it means you kept an open mind. You're exactly what we need working on this!

Ps. it was the twitter thing wasn't it lol.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on August 22, 2010, 08:21:17 PM
@emeraldcity Thanks! :)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on August 22, 2010, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...

Guys, I had a change of heart! :P Bit late, I know...but I was too quick to judge! Bring it on TS ;)

Maybe. But I like think it means you kept an open mind. You're exactly what we need working on this!

Ps. it was the twitter thing wasn't it lol.

Lol! Actually it wasn't. But I've gone from 90% certainty to 100% after your recent post about the Jacksons twitter :) So thank you again for it, it's great stuff!

-guess I was tired of 'informers' back then and dind't trust TS after reading their first few posts. I hadn't been round here a lot for a while, but recently gave my open mind ;) another chance and read all of TS's post almost in one go! Me don't need any more proof :P
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 24, 2010, 03:00:47 AM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I do not believe in TIAI..   load of rubbish created by someone not associated with MJ in anyway.  Sorry.

Agree...

Guys, I had a change of heart! :P Bit late, I know...but I was too quick to judge! Bring it on TS ;)

Maybe. But I like think it means you kept an open mind. You're exactly what we need working on this!

Ps. it was the twitter thing wasn't it lol.

Lol! Actually it wasn't. But I've gone from 90% certainty to 100% after your recent post about the Jacksons twitter :) So thank you again for it, it's great stuff!

-guess I was tired of 'informers' back then and dind't trust TS after reading their first few posts. I hadn't been round here a lot for a while, but recently gave my open mind ;) another chance and read all of TS's post almost in one go! Me don't need any more proof :P

That's great! I didn't realize how many believers do not trust in TS, or how many haven't heard of him :shock:. I find that crazy, what have they got to prove that he isn't in relation with MJ? I will spread the word about TS and tell people to read his posts. ;)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: WhiteNight on August 24, 2010, 03:46:10 AM
I still believe and I always will. I'm here for a very strong reason.

But I will not shower myself in purity by saying that I never have doubts. I'm also only human.

Doubt comes creeping in every once in a while. Even so, it's not strong enough to make me stop believing. It just makes me go back and ask myself why I believe Michael is still alive. The evidence is plain to see. If Michael was really gone, (and I know that he isn't) there would not be so many well planned clues and 'coincidences' that strategically lead one with an open mind to believe that Michael did not die on June 25th, 2009 and that he is indeed alive.

This has not been an easy path for me. I cried countless times when I believed he was gone. I went through every stage of grief you can imagine. I hesitantly accepted his 'death' but was unable to find closure. Something seemed very wrong but I was unable to put my finger on it. I would always wonder how this could affect someone like me.

This feels like a calling of some kind.

I send all of you my love,

~alma~
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 24, 2010, 06:22:24 AM
I guess I still believe, even if I was sure I will stop believing.

I can't see Michael dead, no matter how hard I try to picture this in my mind
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: Loveneverfeltsogood on August 24, 2010, 06:42:00 AM
Ok, I admit it, Bec your thread about the twitter account got me thinking again, i'm not saying that now i believe 100% in TS, but if i was 90% sure he was not an insider (BB- before Bec ) now i'm only 30% (AB-after Bec). I'm going to read TS's posts again (third time) and maybe this time...who knows.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: MJrocksmyworldX on August 24, 2010, 08:01:43 AM
I do, especially after the post about the Jacksons :) x
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: Sarahli on August 24, 2010, 09:14:56 AM
Believe in what ? That's the crucial question. In the message or in TS ? One important thing, I think, is also to consider the information provided by TS which is not directly and blatantly related to the hoax (like NWO, EOTW). The point is not only to believe in TS' being legit and then as a result believing in the entire message. Both are important and both have been proven. TS is legit and his message too.

I think that the content of his posts are self-explanatory and that the 'coincidences',  like the tweet, are also there to boost the moral of hoaxers. It is not the only thing that must make people reconsider their position but rather the understanding of the whole message, it is then necessary to read the entire posts and for those like me who have already read them maybe read again now and then to refresh our memory.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 24, 2010, 09:38:04 AM
I have tried and tried to debunk TS' posts, but simply CAN'T!

 There is absolutely no reason for me not to believe TS, so therefore I firmly believe.

I don't claim to always be right, and I totally understand differing views. So if someone can prove to me that TS/TIAI is not legit, then I am all ears.

So far nobody's been able to do that. I think the main problem is that as a whole, TRUST is so difficult for us. With the corrupted state the world is in, it is our first instinct to be cautious and never believe anything - in fear that we'll be taken advantage of. So many things are like this - relationships are like this, friendships, religious beliefs... we're all so scared of being hurt because we are all SO wounded in one way or another, so we avoid buying into anything that could potentially hurt us or make us look like fools.

I believe this is why children are so special. Their innocent faith without the mess of logic or negativity getting in the way of what they feel. Perhaps this is why Michael loves children so much. I know that's why I love them so much.

Children remind us that not EVERYTHING can be explained and that no matter HOW MUCH evil there is in the world, good ALWAYS concurs evil. Feelings can be just as strong as science when you invest in them.

In this case, we have the best of both worlds. It is my gut FEELING that TS is legit, and that we are not being deceived. And it is also in accord with the FACTS, of which nobody has been able to prove wrong yet (again, if you can prove TS wrong, please by ALL MEANS, share that information with us).

So I hope none of you will give up yet. I know how exhausting this has all been. But think about how exhausting Michael's entire life had to have been. Look at everything he gave us and everything he endured for us. This is why I am not giving up and never will. The reveal of the hoax isn't merely for our entertainment. When the BAM comes, things may get even harder for us. We NEED to stick together, it's crucial. And and we need to do it all with LOVE.

TS - Thank you from the deepest depths of my soul - Thank you for doing your part in what has been the most exciting adventure of my life. No matter the outcome, I wouldn't trade this journey for anything. You've awakened my inner child and reminded me to trust my heart - a priceless lesson that I will hold on to in this life and whatever comes next.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: MJalive999 on August 24, 2010, 11:00:11 AM
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: *Mo* on August 24, 2010, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on August 24, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ok, I'm going nuts here, trying to quote and respond to many posts but it's proving extremely hard on an IPod touch, lol! My computer is being repaired and I miss it!  :evil:

Anyway, I will just respond generally to the last few posts, which I find beautiful btw!
I was thinking before that more people seemed to trust JCC back in the old days than they trust TS!  :? I guess that more people will understand what TS is about 'in their own time'. I can sort of relate to them because I was once distrustful of TS -although he hadn't yet published all of his posts by then! But, as some of you have said, it's possible to believe in TS's message without necessarily accepting TS. Anyone can relate to that, beLIEvers and otherwise, TINIs or whatnot...and I hope that will be the case.

For me it's not only the clues, the numbers, the tweets; there are two main facts that tell me that I should trust him. 1.The explanations in the posts don't sound like those by someone who has researched, but by someone who has planned. And it all fits so well, that the plan must have certainly been carried out that way.  2.TS shows the thinking and planning of a brilliant mind. As brilliant and daring as MJ's...it very much fits with his 'creative side' as we've known it through his music and everything else, IMO.

Anyway, let's spread the L.O.V.E!  8-)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: dontmakeitfactual on August 24, 2010, 11:35:54 AM
@Mo

I'm glad that is the case
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: MJalive999 on August 24, 2010, 11:45:52 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?

sorry, but of course it is relevant!
TS please?
what about setember??? now with the new date of the hearing!(and i 'm talking about MJ)
i am here for MJ...  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: *Mo* on August 24, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?

sorry, but of course it is relevant!
TS please?
what about setember??? now with the new date of the hearing!(and i 'm talking about MJ)
i am here for MJ...  ;)

It's very obvious that the 'Elvis thing' was part of the plan all along.  Just look at ALL the Elvis/MJ connections, ALL the similarities, there are way too much of them to be called 'coincidences'.  I'm just puzzled about why you still make a fuzz about the 'Elvis thing' while it's right in front of your eyes.

I know you want an answer from TS himself, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to air my opinion...
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 24, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?

sorry, but of course it is relevant!
TS please?
what about setember??? now with the new date of the hearing!(and i 'm talking about MJ)
i am here for MJ...  ;)

It's very obvious that the 'Elvis thing' was part of the plan all along.  Just look at ALL the Elvis/MJ connections, ALL the similarities, there are way too much of them to be called 'coincidences'.  I'm just puzzled about why you still make a fuzz about the 'Elvis thing' while it's right in front of your eyes.

I know you want an answer from TS himself, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to air my opinion...

I second that.

Graceland/Neverland
King of Rock/King of Pop
Lisa Marie connection
This Is Elvis/This Is It

There's more, but I can stop right there and be convinced... those types of things don't just happen by coincidence. Coincidence doesn't exist at ALL in my opinion, but even if it did, the likelihood of all those things happening by CHANCE is very slim...
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: a18wheelslady on August 24, 2010, 12:06:15 PM
AMEN  WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: MJalive999 on August 24, 2010, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?

sorry, but of course it is relevant!
TS please?
what about setember??? now with the new date of the hearing!(and i 'm talking about MJ)
i am here for MJ...  ;)

It's very obvious that the 'Elvis thing' was part of the plan all along.  Just look at ALL the Elvis/MJ connections, ALL the similarities, there are way too much of them to be called 'coincidences'.  I'm just puzzled about why you still make a fuzz about the 'Elvis thing' while it's right in front of your eyes.

I know you want an answer from TS himself, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to air my opinion...

I second that.

Graceland/Neverland
King of Rock/King of Pop
Lisa Marie connection
This Is Elvis/This Is It

There's more, but I can stop right there and be convinced... those types of things don't just happen by coincidence. Coincidence doesn't exist at ALL in my opinion, but even if it did, the likelihood of all those things happening by CHANCE is very slim...


i know about elvis/MJ things.
that is NOT my question!  :D
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 24, 2010, 01:51:49 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
''Who still believe?''
i believe in MJ 100%  8-)  end

I have a simple question ( since i have a brain, I'm able to have doubts and the right to make questions)
well, if this elvis thing had never happened??
what does TS would be doing at the moment? (regarding Michael Jackson Hoax, of course).
and it would be possible to have the answer FROM TS??
Thanks  :D

There IS progress in the 'Elvis thing', so I wonder what the relevance of your question is..?

sorry, but of course it is relevant!
TS please?
what about setember??? now with the new date of the hearing!(and i 'm talking about MJ)
i am here for MJ...  ;)

It's very obvious that the 'Elvis thing' was part of the plan all along.  Just look at ALL the Elvis/MJ connections, ALL the similarities, there are way too much of them to be called 'coincidences'.  I'm just puzzled about why you still make a fuzz about the 'Elvis thing' while it's right in front of your eyes.

I know you want an answer from TS himself, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to air my opinion...

I second that.

Graceland/Neverland
King of Rock/King of Pop
Lisa Marie connection
This Is Elvis/This Is It

There's more, but I can stop right there and be convinced... those types of things don't just happen by coincidence. Coincidence doesn't exist at ALL in my opinion, but even if it did, the likelihood of all those things happening by CHANCE is very slim...


i know about elvis/MJ things.
that is NOT my question!  :D

I'm not sure I understand your question then. What would TS be doing if Elvis hadn't faked his death? Is that your question?
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: navibl on August 24, 2010, 03:20:45 PM
Please watch...this is the totality of this great Army of Love...the whole purpose of the mission..this came from a beautiful friend....

[youtube:l2vcvng2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv-UvFw40Xs[/youtube:l2vcvng2]

Love without end Amen.....
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: TheRunningGirl on August 24, 2010, 05:55:42 PM
Do I still beLIEve in TIAI?

The simple answer is YES; I started to follow TIAI long before I joined the Forum, there was something different about those redirects, there was meaning, there were some deep messages and I was curious, I wanted to understand where TIAI was leading to.  
Then came the first update and I thought Waow! A lot of work and planning has gone into it, we are on a journey here!
Oh! Yes, I had my doubts on the way, after all we live in a World where trusting too easily can be dangerous and children learn to mistrust, but I was never able to debunk TS and the light continued shining through....

TS icreM  ;)

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: paula-c on August 24, 2010, 07:49:21 PM
Message of Sony navibl, I cannot see the video :?


"This video includes content from Sony Music Entertainment, comolo has blocked in your country for reasons of rights of copyright."
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 24, 2010, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Message of Sony navibl, I cannot see the video :?


"This video includes content from Sony Music Entertainment, comolo has blocked in your country for reasons of rights of copyright."

http://www.hidemyass.com (http://www.hidemyass.com) ;)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: paula-c on August 24, 2010, 08:12:39 PM
thanks MJFAN7 ;)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: angel on August 24, 2010, 09:07:37 PM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Ok, I'm going nuts here, trying to quote and respond to many posts but it's proving extremely hard on an IPod touch, lol! My computer is being repaired and I miss it!  :evil:

Anyway, I will just respond generally to the last few posts, which I find beautiful btw!
I was thinking before that more people seemed to trust JCC back in the old days than they trust TS!  :? I guess that more people will understand what TS is about 'in their own time'. I can sort of relate to them because I was once distrustful of TS -although he hadn't yet published all of his posts by then! But, as some of you have said, it's possible to believe in TS's message without necessarily accepting TS. Anyone can relate to that, beLIEvers and otherwise, TINIs or whatnot...and I hope that will be the case.

For me it's not only the clues, the numbers, the tweets; there are two main facts that tell me that I should trust him. 1.The explanations in the posts don't sound like those by someone who has researched, but by someone who has planned. And it all fits so well, that the plan must have certainly been carried out that way.  2.TS shows the thinking and planning of a brilliant mind. As brilliant and daring as MJ's...it very much fits with his 'creative side' as we've known it through his music and everything else, IMO.

Anyway, let's spread the L.O.V.E!  8-)



I think you are on to something here.  It's almost like a parallel within a parallel!  Just as TS noted earlier in TIAI Revealed, Part 1: Who Is Behind TIAI?...  "Once 'This Is It' started showing in the theatres:  it appeared as though I was 'gone'; but in reality I was still watching, 'directing' TIAI from behind the scenes, until the right time for me to 'reappear' (does this sound familiar?)."

With the "twitter thing", this is further evidence that TS is revealing himself piece by piece and is certain to cause doubters to look at the evidence with new eyes.  I'm not sure why, but every time I reread updates, which is almost daily, I learn something new; something else will jump out at me as though I've never seen it before.

I look forward to the time when "the dust settles" and TS will no longer be a mystery behind the curtain.
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: emeraldcity on August 24, 2010, 11:02:08 PM
Don'tmakeitfactual and angel have made some very valid points here.   I think it's wonderful that each of us can read the same message and get a different meaning from it, then share it with one another so we getter a wider perspective and deeper understanding of what is being presented.  Just imagine if we all had exactly the same view - everything would so one-dimensional and there'd be nothing to stretch our minds or imaginations any further.  But we are all unique and have our own unique way of interpreting things.  We are so blessed!  I agree with angel when she says that every time she reads one of the updates she learn something new or sees things she didn't see before.  It's like an ocean tide depositing little treasures dredged up from the ocean floor onto the sand ... every day there's something new that has never seen the light of day before  :)
Title: Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
Post by: The Little Mermaid on August 25, 2010, 12:51:04 AM
Always going to believe. Disney's always taught me to believe and I'm definitely not going to give up now--especially not for Michael <3
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