Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Repost: V for Vendetta - V for Vengeance -> The 1993 Accusations
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
I am reposting this blog from February 2010 on the forum because the Murray trial is coming up and because there is much discussion again about it, and I saw that only a few have read it. I know it's a lot of information, but if I can type all of that and also take two hours of pasting it on the forum, you can definitely read it ;)

But seriously, there is so much info in the blog about both cases that you have to know. So grab a cup of coffee (or a can) and read it. This is part 1, about the 1993 accusations. I will open a seperate thread for the 2005 trial and additional info.

THE 2005 TRIAL: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,20071



We would like to start this blog by sharing our personal thoughts. At the time of the trial we both were busy with other things and therefore didn’t pay much attention to the coverage of the trial. Besides that, here in Holland it was not that much of a media circus as it was in the U.S. We knew about the accusations, the start of the trial, and we heard he was acquitted but that was about it, we never really looked further into it. Maybe because we are not fans (which some people still think is a crime while owning this website), maybe because we both never saw him as a pedophile and therefore never felt the urge to read up on it, because in our eyes justice was served.

But in this hoax everything should be investigated and stripped to the bone, so we both decided to read up on the trial and the 1993 accusations. We started with Aphrodite Jones’ “Michael Jackson Conspiracy” about the 2005 trial. This is a must-read! There is a lot of information in the book that was ignored by the mainstream media. If you want to know what happened in that courtroom, this is where you start and you will be amazed about the evilness in this world. As we already thought before, we now dare to say with absolute certainty: Michael Jackson was framed, both in 1993 and in 2003.

We will give you as much information about both cases in this blog as possible, but to be best informed about the 2005 trial you should really read Aphrodite’s book to get the full picture.

Besides facts articles and the summaries of both the 1993 accusation case and the 2005 trial, we also want to share our thoughts about why we think he was framed and by who at the end of this blog. Please note that everything besides the facts, is nothing more than our opinion, our theory. As we both never doubted his innocence, we now also wanted to KNOW, by researching both cases and see if we could link some things to support the conspiracy against him that is well known and supported by many.

Because there is so much information about these cases, we decided to split the blog in different parts, but that does not mean that the information that is not in this main article is less important, so we advise you to read it all if you are really interested in the absurd circumstances surrounding this that could have put Mike behind bars for decades without any proof, if it weren’t for the brilliant defense attorney Tom Mesereau that wiped his ass with the prosecution witnesses and for the 12 people of the jury that could see through the filthy lies of the accusers and exposed Tom Sneddon’s vendetta against Michael Jackson.

  • THE 1993 ACCUSATIONS[/o]
Please read the article by Mary A. Fisher as linked to below. There is a lot of information in it, an accurate timeline and interesting information about some of the key players. Below you will find the key players and some quoted from the article with some additional info about the case and the people involved.

Was Michael Jackson Framed?

The Untold Story

Mary A. Fischer

GQ, October 1994

Before O.J. Simpson, there was Michael Jackson — another beloved black celebrity seemingly brought down by allegations of scandal in his personal life. Those allegations — that Jackson had molested a 13-year-old boy — instigated a multimillion-dollar lawsuit, two grand-jury investigations and a shameless media circus. Jackson, in turn, filed charges of extortion against some of his accusers. Ultimately, the suit was settled out of court for a sum that has been estimated at $20 million; no criminal charges were brought against Jackson by the police or the grand juries. This past August, Jackson was in the news again, when Lisa Marie Presley, Elvis’s daughter, announced that she and the singer had married. As the dust settles on one of the nation’s worst episodes of media excess, one thing is clear: The American public has never heard a defense of Michael Jackson. Until now.

read more (http://wp.me/pIaJi-1Y)


Evan Chandler

Father of Jordan Chandler who accused Mike of molesting his son. Chandler first welcomed Mike in Jordie’s life, but soon turned around and wanted to become rich over Mike’s back. You can find a lot of background info on Chandler in the article, so we will just highlights some quotes from the article regarding the case, to give you an impression of what kind of sick game he played.


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“I had a good communication with Michael,” Chandler told Schwartz. “We were friends. I liked him and I respected him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. What I want.”

Admitting to Schwartz that he had “been rehearsed” about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that “he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy’s power and money.” Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.

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“It’s already set, there are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I’ve paid them to do it. Everything’s going according to a certain plan that isn’t just mine.”

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“Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I’ve given him full authority to do that.”

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“And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]…and Michael’s career will be over.”

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“It’s going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don’t get what I want.”

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“This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find. All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He’s nasty, he’s mean, he’s very smart, and he’s hungry for the publicity.”

This is a leaked snippet from that taped call:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlBFTKgRQRc[/youtube]

For the complete transcript of the call click here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/DS_EC_PHONECALL_TRANSCRIPT.txt).


June Chandler

Mother of Jordan Chandler. June and Jordie spent a lot of time at Neverland. They went on tour with Mike, they went shopping at his costs and had holidays with him. Some quotes from the article:


June also testified in the 2005 trial, here is a part of the transcript:

Q. by Tom Sneddon – A. by June Chandler
Q. Did you notice — I may not have asked this with regard to the third visit, but you indicated in at least the first visit that Jordan slept with you in your guest cottage, correct?

A. Correct.

Q. In the second visit, did Jordan sleep with you in your guest cottage?

A. Yes, he did.

Q. And the third visit, did Jordan sleep with you in your guest cottage?

A. Yes, he did.

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Q. And when you got to Las Vegas, where did you stay, what hotel?

A. The Mirage Hotel.

Q. And when you got to The Mirage Hotel, do you remember what time of day or night it was?

A. No.

Q. Do you remember how long you stayed in Las Vegas on this occasion?

A. Two or three nights.

Q. Now, when you got to Las Vegas, did you have — obviously you had a room –

A. Correct.

Q. — in The Mirage. And who was in your room when you first got there? Who was staying in your room?

A. Jordan, myself, Lily and Michael.

Q. All in the same room?

A. Correct.

Q. Now, did those arrangements change at any point in time?

A. Yes.

Q. And when did they change?

A. The second night things changed.

Q. With regard to “things changed,” could you tell me what changed first?

A. Well, there were approximately three bedrooms in that suite at the Mirage Hotel. Lily and I were staying in one bedroom, Jordie had another bedroom, and Michael had another bedroom. The second night, they were going to see a performance, Cirque du Soleil performance.

Q. “They” meaning who?

A. Jordie and Michael –

Q. Okay.

A. — and Lily and I. It was around 11 p.m. at night, and I got a call from somebody at Cirque du Soleil saying, “Where is Michael?” And I said, “He should be there with my son.” They said, “He’s not here.” A little while later, another call, he still didn’t show up. They still did not show up. And I — there’s a knock on the door and it’s Michael and Jordan, and they came back into the suite. Michael –

Q. Now, let me stop you right there, okay?

A. Yes.

Q. About what time is it when your son Jordan and the defendant in this case, Mr. Jackson, showed up?

A. Well, I think the performance started at 11:00, and I would say Jordan and Michael showed up around 11:30.

Q. Now, could you describe for the jury Mr. Jackson’s demeanor at the time that they came back to the room?

A. He was sobbing. He was crying, shaking, trembling.

Q. Michael Jackson was?

A. He was.

Q. And what about your son’s demeanor?

A. He was quiet.

Q. Now, at that point in time, did Mr. Jackson tell you why he was upset or crying?

A. Yes.

Q. All right. Tell the jury what he said.

A. He said, “You don’t trust me? We’re a family. Why are you doing this? Why are you not allowing Jordie to be with me?” And I said, “He is with you.” He said, “But my bedroom. Why not in my bedroom? We fall asleep, the kids have fun. Boys” –

MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Nonresponsive; narrative.

THE COURT: Narrative; sustained.

Q. BY MR. SNEDDON: All right. Tell us what – Mr. Jackson said that he wanted your son to sleep with him in his bed – what you said to Mr. Jackson.

A. What I said to Michael was, “This is not” — “This is not anything that I want. This is not right. Jordie should be able to do what he wants to do. He should be able to fall asleep where he wants to sleep.”

Q. Is this you talking or Mr. Jackson speaking?

A. I was saying this. And Michael was trembling and saying, “We’re a family. Jordie is having fun. Why can’t he sleep in my bed? There’s nothing wrong. There’s nothing going on. Don’t you trust me?”

Q. All right. How long do you think this conversation lasted between you and Mr. Jackson over where Jordan was going to sleep that night?

A. I would say 20 to 30, 40 minutes.

Q. So it was a back-and-forth conversation; is that right?

A. Yes.


What happened in those lost 30 minutes at The Mirage that made Mike so upset and why did he suddenly wanted Jordie to sleep in his room?

Jordan (Jordie) Chandler

The son of Evan Chandler and June Chandler Schwarz that claimed to have been molested by Mike. Read his deposition here (http://www.kingofpopnews.com/chandler_statement.html).

The following quotes form the article will show that no such thing ever happened.


If Jordie really was molested by Mike, the conversation with Anthony Pellicano would have been his chance to get away, but he repeatedly denies it. Jordie only began making allegations towards Mike after they had given him a drug that can implant false memories. Jordie didn’t want to testify in 1994, and when he was asked to testify on behalf of the prosecution in 2005, he didn’t want to either.

David Schwartz

At the time June Chandler’s husband, although they lived separately since August 1993. He was the owner of Rent-a-Wreck, where Mike ended up after his car broke down. At first he and June didn’t believe the allegations her ex-husband made, but both of them later turned against Mike. Why would Schwartz turn against him? Why suddenly believe that Mike molested Jordie? The only answer we can think of is money. And that would make sense, since Tom Mesereau brings up the following to June Chandler in the cross-examination in 2005:

Q. by Tom Mesereau – A. by June Chandler
Q. Do you recall asking Michael Jackson if he would loan David Schwartz four million dollars?

A. Never.

Q. You say you never did that?

A. Never did that.

Q. Okay. Do you recall your ex-husband David Schwartz asking you to do that?

A. Never.

Q. Do you recall him being five million dollars in debt around the time you were associating with Michael Jackson?

A. No.

Q. Don’t recall that at all?

A. Not at all.


Barry Rothman

Evan Chandler’s attorney, with a history of questionable business.


Michael Freeman

June Chandler’s attorney for a short period of time. Freeman resigned because he didn’t trust Chandler’s intentions. Some quotes from the article:


Bert Fields

Mike’s attorney at that time.


Anthony Pellicano

Private investigator brought in by Mike’s attorney Bert Fields to help sort things out.


Howard Weitzman – Johnnie Cochran Jr. – John Branca

Weitzman, a well-known criminal-defense lawyer with a string of high-profile clients, brought in by Bert Fields.


Larry Feldman

The civil attorney that was representing Jordie Chandler.


Mark Torbiner

A dental anesthesiologist that was present when Chandler administered the controversial drug sodium Amytal to Jordie.


Mathis Abrams

A Beverly Hills psychiatrist, who reported the case to the Los Angeles County Department of Children’s Services.


Stella and Philippe Lemarque

Mike’s’ ex-housekeepers.


The Quindoys

A Filipino couple who had worked at Neverland.


The Bodyguards

Five former security guards who were planning to file a $10 million lawsuit alleging wrongful termination of their jobs. The case was thrown out of court in July 1995. As their depositions under oath reveal, it was clear they had never actually seen Mike do anything improper with Jordie or any other child:

“So you don’t know anything about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?” one of Jackson’s attorneys asked former security guard Morris Williams under oath.

“All I know is from the sworn documents that other people have sworn to.”

“But other than what someone else may have said, you have no firsthand knowledge about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?”

“That’s correct.”

“Have you spoken to a child who has ever told you that Mr. Jackson did anything improper with the child?”

“No.”

When asked by Jackson’s attorney where he had gotten his impressions, Williams replied:

“Just what I’ve been hearing in the media and what I’ve experienced with my own eyes.”

“Okay. That’s the point. You experienced nothing with your own eyes, did you?”

“That’s right, nothing.”


Ex-Employee of Jackson Speaks of Threats During Earlier Inquiry (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/26/national/26jackson.html?ei=5088&en=655242f0f8b0afc2&ex=1272168000&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1198342831-DYXoHRT1RNGm9gMYsUoCOw)

Blanca Francia

The maid.


Brett Barnes – Wade Robson

Friends of Mike that had stayed over at Neverland as well.


The both of them also testified in the 2005 trial:

Q. by Tom Mesereau – A. by Brett Barnes
Q. And how many times do you think you’ve stayed over at Neverland?

A. Every time.

Q. Okay. Did you ever stay in Michael Jackson’s room?

A. Yes, I have.

Q. How many times do you think you’ve done that?

A. Countless as well.

Q. And how would you describe his room?

A. It’s big. It’s pretty cool because it’s got lots of fun stuff to do there. Video games, such as stuff like that. And it’s probably the best as I can describe it.

Q. Have you ever stayed in Michael Jackson’s bed?

A. Yes, I have.

Q. How many times do you think you have?

A. Countless as well.

Q. Has Mr. Jackson ever molested you?

A. Absolutely not. And I can tell you right now that if he had, I wouldn’t be here right now.

Q. Has Mr. Jackson ever touched you in a sexual way?

A. Never. I wouldn’t stand for it.

Q. Has Mr. Jackson ever touched any part of your body in a way that you thought was inappropriate?

A. Never. It’s not the type of thing that I would stand for.


Q. by Tom Mesereau – A. by Wade Robson
Q. Mr. Robson, has anyone told you what to say in this courtroom today?

A. No.

Q. Is everything you’ve said the complete and honest truth?

A. Yes.

Q. Did Mr. Jackson ever do anything wrong with you?

A. No.

MR. MESEREAU: No further questions.


Diane Dimond

Correspondent for Hard Copy at the time of the allegations. After Mike’s ‘death’, Dimond became a daily contributor on Entertainment Tonight for its Michael Jackson “Investigation”. From 1993 on, Dimond has portrayed Mike as a pedophile in her coverage, paying for interviews and not presenting facts but only opinions from haters. Rumor has it that she shared a bed with Tom Sneddon and that’s why she would have had all the scoops, but of course no proof of that on the internet.


However, Dimond had one bright moment in her career, were she exposed people that were trying to ruin Mike:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3GbPkR-ne4[/youtube]

Tom Sneddon

Tom Sneddon was the Santa Barbara DA at that time, and during the 2005 trial. Sneddon and his mates travelled around the world to find one boy that would want to testify against Mike, they found no one. They had no case. He also was the one that ordered the strip search on Mike, stating later that is was a match, while it wasn’t. There is a very interesting article on a blog that also brings up this strip search and the questions surrounding it. We will take some quotes from it, but the article itself is very interesting to read.


Read more (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/well-clarice-have-the-lambs-stopped-screaming/)

For those reading that are still not convinced of his innocence, let’s sum things up here:


The Criminal Investigation

When the boy who accused Michael Jackson of sexual abuse in 1993 refused to cooperate with authorities, the police investigation fell apart.

Police obtained Jackson’s telephone books and contacted about thirty children and their families. Although investigators allegedly used aggressive interrogation techniques to scare the children into making accusations against Jackson, they still could not find another accuser. All of the children questioned maintained that Jackson had never sexually abused them.

In an attempt to find corroborating evidence, the Santa Barbara Police Department subjected Jackson to a strip search to see if the description the accuser provided of Jackson’s genitalia was accurate. According to an article from USA Today: “photos of Michael Jackson’s genitalia do not match descriptions given by the boy who accused the singer of sexual misconduct.”

By February 1994, police still did not have a witness who was willing to testify against Jackson. Investigators consequently turned to the tabloids for leads, contacting several of Jackson’s former employees who had sold their stories to the media. For example, investigators flew to the Philippines to interview the Quindoys, a couple who had told the tabloids that they’d seen Jackson act inappropriately with a child. Police decided that their story was not credible based on the fact that the more money they received, the more salacious their story became.

Police also got in contact with Blanca Francia, Jackson’s former maid who had sold her story to Hard Copy for $20,000. On December 15 1993, Francia told the tabloid show that she had witnessed Jackson showering with young boys and that she had also seen him act inappropriately with her own son. Francia repeated these statements in a sworn deposition for the Chandlers’ civil lawsuit. While under deposition by one of Jackson’s attorneys, however, Francia admitted that she had exaggerated details during her Hard Copy interview and that the producers had paid her for her story.

In the mid 90s, Francia threatened to accuse Jackson of molesting her son unless she received money from the Jackson camp. To avoid the negative publicity that would have inevitably resulted from a second child abuse allegation, Jackson’s associates advised him to quietly settle the case. After receiving $2 million from Jackson, Francia did not go forward with the civil lawsuit.

While Francia seemed more than willing to make accusations against Jackson in exchange for financial compensation, she did not have anything incriminating to reveal when authorities questioned her during the criminal investigation in 1994. Contrary to what she had previously claimed (and to what she would claim in the future), Francia told investigators that her son had repeatedly denied being sexually abused by Jackson. Here is an excerpt from a USA Today article that was published on February 7th, 1994:

“Investigators from the county sheriff’s office recently arranged for the 13-year-old son of Jackson’s former maid to see a therapist. The boy was first interviewed by police after his mother told them he had spent time alone with Jackson. According to his mother, the child has repeatedly denied being abused in any way by the pop music star.

The offer of a therapist was made after the woman, an immigrant from Central America, complained about meetings and phone conversations sheriff’s deputies had with the boy while she was not present.

It made her “feel uncomfortable,” she said in a deposition, that she didn’t know what the deputies were talking about with the young boy. When she asked them “who should I talk to” about her concerns, they arranged for the woman and her son to see separate therapists at the county’s expense, she said in the sworn statement.”


In 1994, two grand juries were convened to hear evidence in the Jackson case but no charges were ever brought; in fact, evidence was so scant that prosecutors did not even ask for an indictment. According to a report from CNN that aired on May 2, 1994: “One jury member said no damaging evidence was heard.”

If the case against Jackson was so weak, why did District Attorney Tom Sneddon spend the next ten years slandering Jackson’s name in the press?

Source: http://mjjr.net/content/mjcase/investigation.html

Questions surrounding this case

How come the car broke down and why that close to Rent-a-Wreck? It seems too much of a coincidence. Probably an expensive car with outstanding maintenance, Schwartz had an alleged $5 million debt and Chandler was lobbying with a film script and had some financial issues after claims from patients. Because Mike clearly was framed, we think this was all part of the plan. Mike was supposed to meet the Chandlers and we think deals were made before the car broke down near Rent-a-Wreck.

If Schwartz was part of the conspiracy, why did he tape the phone conversation with Chandler and played it to Pellicano? Could be blackmail. Maybe Chandler got cold feet, maybe it was in case Chandler would get cold feet. If Chandler would back out, they would have had nothing at all. Dave Schwartz actually has a link to District Attorney Tom Sneddon. Tellem, the PR firm working for Sneddon, also works for Dave Schwartz.

Why did June eventually turn against Mike? Because she was afraid to loose Jordie? Or did June have a hidden agenda? Rumor has it that June wanted to become Mrs. Jackson. Maybe she thought she could get close enough to Mike to get out of the deal and get rich by marrying Mike? Or she was supposed to get close to Mike. One other thing that bugged us was the drawing Jordie made of Mike’s genitals and while it wasn’t a match, there seemed to have been strong similarities. Of course he could have guessed there was discoloration, but the risk was that there was none at all. As far as we know Mike loved to swim and maybe at one point Jordie saw a glimpse while at the pool, we all know that can happen, but mostly that’s all it is, a glimpse. Not enough to see it long enough to draw a map of it if you know what we mean. We don’t think Jordie saw anything at all. What we did discuss is that there is a chance that Mike and June had an affair, or a one night stand. As we still assume he suffered from DID, it is actually quite possible he himself doesn’t even know if anything ever happened. Maybe June was the one that told Jordie what to draw? She was wrong about the fact that Mike was NOT circumcised, but maybe she focused too much on the discoloration and forgot about that. Having been married to a Jewish man might have let her assume that he was.

Why did Chandler approve of the relationship between Mike and Jordie at first and did that change later on, while Jordie hadn’t made any accusations against Mike and Chandler never had seen anything inappropriate with his own eyes? Mike didn’t help him with his film script so that could have made him pissed, but before accusations were made; Pellicano offered him a $350.000 film script deal which he turned down. He wanted more money, to be exact: $30 million was the first claim Feldman made. Now tell us, if your little boy would have been molested by anyone, doesn’t matter by who, would you ask for $30 million or would you want that person behind bars? Chandler turned to Rothman instead of the police, means that he didn’t want justice for his son, because nothing ever happened and Chandler was in for the $$$$.

The thing is that if they would file criminal charges first, they would have to go through trial. But they only had Jordie with a story that popped up after Chandler gave him a controversial drug that can implant false memories. The defense would have kicked ass with that fact. Also there was the taped conversation between Schwartz and Chandler which wouldn’t have helped the prosecution at all. No one had seen anything, the drawing that Jordie made of Mike’s genitals didn’t match so they had no case. They must have known that, that is why Chandler turned to a civil lawyer first because once you have lost a trial, you can say bye bye to the bucks. But turning to a civil lawyer doesn’t change the fact that there was no case. Mike wanted to fight, wanted to go to court and he would have won, we have no doubt about that. But then suddenly the settlement… Didn’t Mike want to fight anymore? We don’t believe that. He was strong enough to go through all the shit in 2005, why wouldn’t he have been strong enough in 1993? The strange part is that Mike suddenly became weak. He didn’t eat anymore, lost a lot of weight, his health was getting bad and Fields even said he was “barely able to function adequately on an intellectual level.” The settlement was signed for allegedly around $15 – $20 million. That was the best case scenario for Sneddon of course, since he would never have won if he had filed criminal charges. That might have been Plan A, but for plan B this was the best thing to happen, they had Mike look guilty by signing the settlement (which is BS, see link below) so there was a base for new accusations. When criminal charges were filed in 2003, the media already had convicted Mike without knowing anything about the case.

Info about the settlement (http://mjjr.net/content/mjcase/settlement.html)

The fact that Mike went to rehab right after that gives us an uncomfortable feeling. As we have said before we think Mike has been drugged and poisoned and if you see he first wants to fight, then his health gets bad, he was barely able to function and he didn’t eat anymore, makes us wonder what they did to him to make him sign those papers. He didn’t eat anymore, was he afraid to eat? Did they get him by putting drugs in his food? Something is not right here.

Same with the lost 30 minutes at The Mirage. What happened that made him so upset? Why did they never arrive at the Cirque du Soleil performance? Who else was there? As you know we think Mike is a mind control victim and we think someone must have triggered him during those 30 minutes. Suddenly Mike insisted that Jordie slept in his bed, while on previous visits the Chandlers all slept at the guest houses. Something happened at the Mirage, we just can’t figure out what, but The Mirage will come back later in this blog because Mike also stayed at the Mirage when in 2003 Neverland was raided again:

Jackson Trashed Vegas Hotel Room As Police Raided His Home (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-trashed-vegas-hotel-room-as-police-raided-his-home_1116386)
Title: Re: Repost: V for Vendetta - V for Vengeance
Post by: Andrea on August 10, 2011, 03:56:31 PM
That's so weird, I had this blog post opened up at work today to read it again - I had read it a long time ago when it came out.  I didn't have time to read it though so thanks for posting on here.  I'll definitely be reading it as soon as I have the time (maybe at work tomorrow, LOL).
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