Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: ladylee1979 on August 09, 2011, 04:31:33 PM
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In his first interview since being jailed on 78 counts of wiretapping in 2008, Hollywood's most notorious private investigator has made an explosive claim concerning the late singer Michael Jackson.
While Jackson who died in 2009 has long been subject to rumours of inappropriate relations with young boys.
Pellicano claimed he dropped the superstar as a client because he 'did something far worse' than molesting young boys.Now speaking from his jail cell, the Hollywood Investigator boasted 'I was way ahead of my time.'
Allegation: Pellicano accused Jackson of doing something 'far worse with young boys'
Now speaking from his jail cell, the Hollywood Investigator boasted 'I was way ahead of my time
Pellicano revealed why he allegedly dropped the King of Pop as a client, after being hired to investigate one of the families accusing the singer in the 2003 child molestation case.
He claimed he told Jackson he would only work for him if he wasn't guilty.
'I said, "You don't have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will f*** you over",' he said.
'I quit after I found out some truths.
'He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.'
But the investigator did not elaborate on his sensational claim.
The investigator, who was known for phone-hacking long before the current scandal, has reportedly done work for the likes of Tom Cruise, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bill Clinton.
He was jailed for 15 years in 2008 after being found guilty on 78 counts including wire-tapping, racketeering and wire fraud from his controversial operation.
Pellicano said he was locked up because he refused to betray his high profile clients - adding that he has some shocking secrets on them.
He told Newsweek he had information on Arnold Schwarzenegger which, had the authorities found, 'he would never have been governor'.
While his case has long since disappeared from the front pages, hacking has been at the forefront of the news agenda with the News Of The World scandal that has damged the reputations of News International boss Rupert Murdoch, British Prime Minister David Cameron, and the Metropolitan Police.
However, Pellicano claims the British phone-hacking scandal is not such a big deal.
He said: 'I was way ahead of my time,” he says. What’s the big deal about some tabloid hijacking Hugh Grant’s voicemails?
'If Murdoch’s name wasn’t involved, would there be a story? If someone wiretapped Britney Spears, no one would care. The story is, did Murdoch know people were doing this? Did he condone it? I strongly believe he had no idea.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2023974/Anthony-Pellicano-claims-Michael-Jackson-did-far-worse-molest-young-boys.html
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HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS? WTF/ >:( He did a 2 1/2 hour interview and is writing a book. Look at what he says about Michael. I am fuming. WTH does that mean?????
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/07/hollywood-phone-hacker-anthony-pellicano-breaks-his-silence.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/07/hollywood-phone-hacker-anthony-pellicano-breaks-his-silence.html)
Hollywood Hacker Breaks His Silence
Aug 7, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
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Hollywood Hacker Breaks His Silence
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Hollywood Hacker Breaks His Silence
Long before the Murdoch empire’s phone-hacking scandal, Anthony Pellicano was the private eye that stars feared (and used) most. In his first interview since going to prison, he reveals new details on spying for Schwarzenegger, clearing Cruise's name—and why he dumped Michael Jackson.
Aug 7, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
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Photo Illustration by Jesse Lenz. Source photos: Courtesy of Everett Colllection (poster); Steve Granitz / Wire-Image / Getty Images (Nicole Kidman and Sly Stallone); Brendan Hoffman / Getty Images (Gary Shandling); Ocean-Corbis (microphone and headphones); Westley Hargrave / Splash News (Anthony Pellicano)
Inmate No. 21568-112 settles into a blue plastic chair inside the gymnasium-size visitor center at Big Spring Federal Correctional Institution, clad in a beige jumpsuit that matches the color of the dead grass surrounding the prison. Beyond the barbed wire lies the town of Big Spring, Texas (population: 25,000), a dusty, godforsaken former Air Force town pockmarked with shuttered businesses, fast-food joints, and four other detention and correctional facilities. The town’s biggest claim to fame was its supporting role in the 1969 best picture, Midnight Cowboy: this is the place Jon Voight’s character calls home, until he heads off to Manhattan to become a hustler.
And now it’s home to the hustler named Anthony Pellicano, self-styled Detective to the Stars, whose Soprano persona and win-at-any-cost tactics made him the No. 1 guy that Hollywood actors, suits, and their attorneys turned to whenever they had a problem. A big problem. The kind of problem where big bucks and bigger egos were at stake. With a Louisville Slugger in the trunk of his car and a computerized phone-hacking system in his Sunset Boulevard office, Pellicano dug up dirt on his clients’ enemies and helped make those problems go away—whether it was the embittered spouse of a mogul, an inconvenient gay lover, or a nosy journalist. That is, until he allegedly hired someone to intimidate the wrong nosy journalist—Anita Busch of the Los Angeles Times—and the FBI got involved, blowing the lid off the biggest wiretapping operation this side of Watergate.
On this 106-degree summer day, Pellicano has agreed to his first sit-down interview since going to prison in 2008. His case has long since disappeared from the front pages, replaced lately by the News of the World quagmire that has tarred Rupert Murdoch, David Cameron, and Scotland Yard. The way Pellicano sees it, the British phone-hacking scandal is kid stuff. “I was way ahead of my time,” he says. What’s the big deal about some tabloid hijacking Hugh Grant’s voicemails? “If Murdoch’s name wasn’t involved, would there be a story? If someone wiretapped Britney Spears, no one would care. The story is, did Murdoch know people were doing this? Did he condone it? I strongly believe he had no idea.”
Pellicano claims never to have lent his services to any of Murdoch’s newspapers, and says he met the mogul only once, “but it had to do with Judith Regan,” his former longtime friend, who was fired from News Corp.’s HarperCollins in 2006. (Regan says she never introduced the two men.) “If News of the World called,” he says hypothetically, “I would ask the editor, ‘Why would you want me to do that? Are you stupid?!’ The guy at News of the World was just getting leads for stories.” Pellicano boasts that “I was the top of the ladder. Just to talk to me it cost $25,000. These guys were stringers who worked with reporters to try to get information on a celebrity!”
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Now 67, Pellicano looks trimmer than the paunchy figure in the double-breasted suits and patent-leather shoes he wore during his trial. His blustery temper seems to have subsided: gone are the days when he would toss a plate of spinach across the dining room at Le Dome because the garlic was chopped instead of sliced. He affects an air of Zen-like calm: you can envision him spreading out on a yoga mat and stretching into the downward-dog pose. He spends his days writing haiku, playing chess, and doing crosswords.
Before the convict was cooling his heels with more than 1,700 other inmates here in Big Spring, his milieu was the liposuctioned underbelly of Hollywood Babylon. “If you saw the stuff I found in celebrity homes: cocaine, heroin, Ecstasy, vials of narcotics. There was a doctor shooting up celebrities with morphine for $350.” His job was to keep the lid on such indiscretions. He liked to boast that he lived by omerta, the Mafia code of silence. “When you are my client, you become my family,” he says, and his clan included Michael Jackson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Farrah Fawcett, Kevin Costner, Courtney Love, Chris Rock, and über-agent Michael Ovitz, just to name a few. “That was the attitude I kept. I wasn’t really a P.I. I was a problem solver. People came to me because they had a problem. The government wanted me to turn on them.”
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In the end, Pellicano didn’t rat out anyone, and the collective sigh coming out of Hollywood was stronger than any Santa Ana windstorm. And he’s still sticking by his code. Sort of.
Throughout the course of the two-and-a-half-hour interview, Pellicano lets slip one tantalizing tidbit after another. Describing the scene when the FBI raided his office, he says, “They come to my business…I have personal stuff on Arnold…If they found that stuff, he never would have been governor.” But he declines to elaborate, and later refuses to say whether he knew anything about Schwarzenegger having a love child with his maid. “I can’t say one way or another if I knew it,” he says. As for Schwarzenegger’s soon-to-be ex-wife, Maria Shriver, “Would I have told her? Probably not.” Schwarzenegger’s attorney was unavailable for comment.
Pellicano says he once quashed a story headed for the National Enquirer about a male superstar who liked to play with a female sex toy. But he refuses to name names. He boasts about how he discredited an erotic wrestler who claimed he’d had an affair with Tom Cruise. “There was no truth to it,” Pellicano says. “He wanted to extort money.” (Cruise sued the man for slander and reportedly won a multimillion-dollar default judgment.) Later in the interview, Pellicano reveals that when he agreed to work for Jackson during the star’s 1993 child-molestation case, he warned Jackson that he’d better not be guilty. “I said, ‘You don’t have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will f--k you over.’ ” The detective took the assignment, but says, “I quit because I found out some truths…He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.” But he refuses to say anything more about it. It’s as if Pellicano wants to send Hollywood a reminder: I know which closets hold the skeletons.
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Pellicano grew up in Al Capone’s old haunt, Cicero, Ill., and worked as a bill collector before becoming a private investigator in Chicago. He made a splash in the early ’80s when he was a defense expert for John DeLorean, the car creator charged with smuggling large quantities of cocaine into the U.S. He moved to Los Angeles and became a braggart of the highest order, variously describing himself as an ace gumshoe, a martial-arts master, an expert in voice recognition, a screenwriter, and an actor. Pellicano gained access to Hollywood’s A-list after meeting celebrity power-attorney Bert Fields, who started using his services. Eventually, the detective was spying on Sylvester Stallone, comedian Garry Shandling, and Nicole Kidman. When he wasn’t digging through their dirty laundry, he was power-lunching with the stars, tooling around in his black Mercedes and dark sunglasses, and rubbing elbows with moguls like Ovitz, Universal Studios president Ron Meyer, and manager Brad Grey, now head of Paramount (Grey even attempted to make an HBO pilot with Pellicano, about a Hollywood detective).
It all came to a screeching halt in 2002, when federal agents started looking for evidence of his involvement in a plot to threaten the L.A. Times’s Busch—who had previously written about the downfall of Ovitz, and was now pursuing a story about alleged mob ties to movie star Steven Seagal. Busch discovered the windshield of her car smashed, and a dead fish left behind with a note reading “Stop.” (The man who vandalized Busch’s car, a Pellicano flunky named Alexander Proctor, told the FBI that he’d been hired by the detective. But Pellicano still maintains he had nothing to do with harassing Busch, who is suing him and Ovitz.) When agents raided Pellicano’s office, they discovered plastic explosives and a pair of hand grenades, and the private eye wound up pleading guilty to possession of illegal explosives in 2004. Pellicano tells NEWSWEEK that the small arsenal was owned by a celebrity who “got it off some motorcycle gang”; he claims he forcefully took the weapons away from the star and was planning to toss them off a friend’s boat when his office was raided.
But the most explosive find in Pellicano’s office was a trove of thousands of transcripts and encrypted tapes of phone conversations he’d illegally tapped. Pellicano had designed a wiretapping program to intercept calls that he dubbed Telesleuth. Aided by several phone-company workers he employed, he installed taps in telephone junction boxes and at the main switchboard that were then connected via phone lines to the computers in Pellicano’s office and remote laptops.
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Ultimately, the feds’ investigation mushroomed into allegations of bribery of law-enforcement officers, identity theft, and high-tech eavesdropping. And as the case began to take on a life of its own, Hollywood heavyweights were dragged into the mess, including Pellicano clients Ovitz and Fields. In May 2008, Pellicano was found guilty on 76 charges, including wire fraud, racketeering, and wiretapping. Three months later he was convicted alongside prominent lawyer Terry N. Christensen for wiretapping the ex-wife of billionaire Kirk Kerkorian during a bitter child-custody battle. In all, close to a dozen people were charged in the FBI probe. Pellicano received the harshest sentence: 15 years.
Pellicano says he landed the hefty prison term because of his refusal to name names. “Up until the day of trial, [federal prosecutors] tried to get me to talk,” he says. Dan Saunders, who prosecuted Pellicano and is now a partner at Bingham McCutchen in Los Angeles, sees it differently. “Pellicano’s sentence was based not on any refusal to cooperate, but on what the law and the trial judge deemed just punishment for his many years of egregious criminal conduct.”
The disgraced detective still insists that none of his clients knew anything about his wiretapping, in particular the high-powered lawyers, like Fields, who employed him. “I didn’t tell no one about the wiretapping,” he says. “I didn’t trust lawyers: they had an obligation to tell on me.” Still, he adds knowingly, “You can turn a blind eye, but 99 percent of the lawyers out there don’t care how the problem was solved.”
Pellicano is currently appealing his conviction, and if he’s successful, he could be out by 2013, six years before his eligible parole date. He’s pinning his hopes on an 86-page appeals brief that accuses the government of misconduct, misrepresentation, and constitutional violation. Among other things, the brief charges that the agents’ search of his office was illegal. The U.S. Attorney’s Office has until late September to respond to the brief.
In the meantime, Pellicano has 30 civil lawsuits hanging over his head, including the one from Busch. Will Pellicano rat out anyone in the civil cases? Don’t count on it, says his attorney and friend Steven Gruel. “Everyone expected this to be the case that rocked Hollywood, and it didn’t happen, and it didn’t bring in the great names they hypothesized would happen,” the attorney says. “He wouldn’t buckle, and that is why he is in Big Spring, Texas, today.”
Pellicano gets precious few visitors here in west Texas, and the letters he used to receive in droves have long since stopped arriving. Many of his old friends disappeared a while ago: Judith Regan, who “was like a sister to me,” Pellicano says, “was a good example of someone who I gave a lot of affection to, and when I got arrested she turned her back on me.” Regan says she last saw Pellicano at lunch in 2001 or 2002. “I didn’t turn my back on him,” she says. “He kind of disappeared, and I didn’t know how to get in touch with him. It is not like he left a forwarding address.” Pellicano still keeps in touch with a few pals, like actor Tony Danza, who tells NEWSWEEK that the two write each other regularly. “I’m actually reading the latest from him now. I often send some clippings or stories that I know will interest him,” Danza says. The actor visited Pellicano when he was incarcerated in Los Angeles, but hasn’t yet gone to Big Spring, where Pellicano was transferred in May. “I was about to make the trip to Safford, Ariz., where he was before Big Spring,” Danza says, then adds: “Anthony Pellicano in Big Spring, Texas. Incongruous.”
Pellicano, who has eight children from four marriages, says, “Everything I have is gone, including my family.” His wife, Kat, who lives with three of their four children in Thousand Oaks, Calif., declined to speak to NEWSWEEK for this story. Pellicano says his son Ronnie, from his first marriage, wants to visit him, and he would like to see his grandchildren one day. He’s given up hope that he will ever see his 88-year-old mother again. She is too frail to make the flight to Texas. “Those are the hard things to deal with,” Pellicano says. “Life is pain and suffering, and some happiness.”
He claims he doesn’t harbor any ill will about his situation. “I had a really long run. I am not bitter. I don’t have any hard feelings against the government. Every U.S. citizen is subjected to the laws of this country. This guy in Norway [faces] a maximum sentence of 21 years,” he says, referring to the recent massacre there. “I got 15 years for giving away DMV information.” The inmate does have a few complaints about his current living situation. He grouses that the air conditioning knocks out on occasion, and that half the toilets and showers don’t work. He’s developed an eye problem, and says it takes forever to get medical attention. And with so many roommates in his prison dorm, Pellicano says he isn’t able to write the autobiography he claims he’s received numerous offers to pen. “Imagine trying to write a story with 100 guys around you,” he says. “There is nowhere to go for quiet.”
Still, given the alternative of being a stool pigeon, Pellicano says he wouldn’t have it any other way. “It was either I talked or go to jail and accept it like a man,” he says. “I could have gone to the Clintons [Pellicano was reportedly hired to investigate Monica Lewinsky, and Gennifer Flowers before her] and senators and asked them for a favor. I am not going to ask them for a favor. You take your lumps and go on with your life the best way you can.”
He pulls up his sleeve to reveal a tattoo on his shoulder. It reads “Honor.” He got it done the night before he went to prison. “You take everything from me, and I still have honor and integrity. I look in the mirror and see a person I like.” The image may be cracked, but its subject hasn’t. Yet.
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And WHO is this no one?
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I don;t know who this guy is but as long as he is just claiming to know a dark secret about Michael but he provides no proof - why should people trust him?
I am yet curious what "far worse than molesting" means in this guy's mind.
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He’s a fucking CRIMINAL who says in another article (here’s the link) that if you want further details… read the book :x :x
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/08/anthony-pellicano-talks-murdoch-michael-jackson-and-mafia/40957/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/08/anthony-pellicano-talks-murdoch-michael-jackson-and-mafia/40957/)
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Oh god, at one moment between today and tomorrow I will burst out for real if I see anymore shit like this.
And why post such thing? Bad or good attention is STILL attention. That's what such people need with such things. Bsides it makes my blood boil to see all this garbage, I pity them. They don't know what they do. One day the wheel will return. I have strong belief in this, and everyone will pay for what they do to him.
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No, really this shit doesn't need attention. It would be great to have both topics about this character deleted.
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im posting this to prove michael is right yet again tabloid trash to me there is nothing worse than molestation and why not say anything when he was here why now 2yrs later and why not open up during the court case just trying to tarnish michael yet again as the court case gets closer,also posted it incase this person is of any signifigance!
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the worst is that some people might believe this guy's stories pale/
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You know what, some of you kill me trying to dictate what should and should not be posted. It is nearing the damn trial and I would think we all would want to be at least alerted to what is being said about Michael in a negative way. Who knows why this idiot is spewing this venom at this time? It pisses me off, but if you don’t want to read it and/or you’re not affected by it, then by all means PASS IT UP AND GO TO THE NEXT LINE OF DISCUSSION. Simple solution.
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BS, I wonder if this story is even true, and if so, if that is a direct quote or that it is taken out of context. If Pellicano says that, he is lying, period. I don't know why he would do that, but we know he would not be the first.
Here is a snippet from the V for Vendetta - V for Vengeance blog:
Evan Chandler
Father of Jordan Chandler who accused Mike of molesting his son. Chandler first welcomed Mike in Jordie’s life, but soon turned around and wanted to become rich over Mike’s back. You can find a lot of background info on Chandler in the article, so we will just highlights some quotes from the article regarding the case, to give you an impression of what kind of sick game he played.
- According to sources, Chandler even suggested that Jackson build an addition onto the house so the singer could stay there. After calling the zoning department and discovering it couldn’t be done, Chandler made another suggestion — that Jackson just build him a new home.
- At no time has Chandler claimed to have witnessed any sexual misconduct on Jackson’s part.
- Dave Schwartz, Jordie’s stepfather secretly taped a phone conversation with Chandler in July, here are some of the statements he makes to Schwarz in that conversation:
“I had a good communication with Michael,” Chandler told Schwartz. “We were friends. I liked him and I respected him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. What I want.”
Admitting to Schwartz that he had “been rehearsed” about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that “he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy’s power and money.” Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.
“It’s already set, there are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I’ve paid them to do it. Everything’s going according to a certain plan that isn’t just mine.”
“Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I’ve given him full authority to do that.”
“And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]…and Michael’s career will be over.”
“It’s going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don’t get what I want.”
“This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find. All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He’s nasty, he’s mean, he’s very smart, and he’s hungry for the publicity.”
This is a leaked snippet from that taped call:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSf8q7vsxE[/youtube]
For the complete transcript of the call click here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/DS_EC_PHONECALL_TRANSCRIPT.txt).
- Chandler and his son met with Jackson and Pellicano in a suite at the Westwood Marquis Hotel. On seeing Jackson, says Pellicano, Chandler gave the singer an affectionate hug (a gesture, some say, that would seem to belie the dentist’s suspicions that Jackson had molested his son), then reached into his pocket, pulled out Abrams’s letter and began reading passages from it. When Chandler got to the parts about child molestation, the boy, says Pellicano, put his head down and then looked up at Jackson with a surprised expression, as if to say “I didn’t say that.” As the meeting broke up, Chandler pointed his finger at Jackson, says Pellicano, and warned “I’m going to ruin you.”
- At a meeting with Pellicano in Rothman’s office later that evening, Chandler and Rothman made their demand – $20 million.
- On August 13, there was another meeting in Rothman’s office. Pellicano came back with a counteroffer — a $350,000 screenwriting deal. Pellicano says he made the offer as a way to resolve the custody dispute and give Chandler an opportunity to spend more time with his son by working on a screenplay together. Chandler rejected the offer. Rothman made a counter demand — a deal for three screenplays or nothing — which was spurned. In the diary of Rothman’s ex-colleague, an August 24 entry reveals Chandler’s disappointment: “I almost had a $20 million deal,” he was overheard telling Rothman.
- Before Chandler took control of his son, the only one making allegations against Jackson was Chandler himself — the boy had never accused the singer of any wrongdoing. That changed one day in Chandler’s Beverly Hills dental office. In the presence of Chandler and Mark Torbiner, a dental anesthesiologist, the boy was administered the controversial drug sodium Amytal — which some mistakenly believe is a truth serum. And it was after this session that the boy first made his charges against Jackson. Given the facts about sodium Amytal and a recent landmark case that involved the drug, the boy’s allegations, say several medical experts, must be viewed as unreliable, if not highly questionable:
“False memories can be easily implanted in those under its influence. It is quite possible to implant an idea through the mere asking of a question. The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened.”
http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/v-for-vendetta-v-for-vengeance/
I have read so much about both cases that I can say that I am 1000% sure that Mike was innocent. I knew he was before I spent weeks of investigation, months even, but I now know for absolute certainty and I can defend my opinion. No proof was found which is why it never came to official charges in 1993. Many people still mistake civil charges with criminal charges. Mike was accused by Chandler in 1993, NOT by the state because even though I am sure Sneddon wanted, there was NO evidence whatsoever. There was no evidence in 2003 either, hence Mike's acquittal.
I really urge you to read the entire blog if you haven't yet, so that if such an article emerges, that you can debunk it. Deleting threads like this is no solution, debunking false allegations is. I might post this entire blog again on the forum, hoping more people will read it even though it's almost book-sized.
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Last time I checked, Pellicano was let go of the case and didn't 'quit'. Michael constantly fired people (not saying this in a negative way, he had to be suspicious and had to be sure he had the right people working for him) and he's the one who dumped Pellicano, not the other way around. At least as far as I can remember from reading about this time and time again. I can't remember ever reading Pellicano quit. And after he was out, he still called Chandler and Rothman extortionists, as far as I can remember, so I supposed he was still on Michael's side and certain he was innocent. Even though you can extort someone who's guilty of a crime just as much, of course.
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This guy is just plain ridiculous. Gina, I'd also like to know what is "far worse than molesting little boys" in his mind as well. I never suspected that Michael committed those crimes but having researched both cases extensively, I can also say I am with out a doubt 100% certain of his innocent. I mean their "proof" of his guilt is so ridiculous. I don't understand how people can't see that.
It honestly amazes me that people can be so cruel. Seriously, how do people live with themselves these days?
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So this guy knows something? Hm I am pretty positive he doesn't know anything. The FBI released how many pages oh yeah 333 pages on their file that revealed nothing of the sort. Let's think about this, a guy who has 78 counts against him and is serving 15 years in jail or the FBI who has more resources then they know what to do with.
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Exactly. And why does the media give this man so much freedom to say all this shit? He is a CRIMINAL for heaven’s sake. Why are they allowing him this kind of platform. It’s ludicrous. But it proves once again that anything goes when it’s a negative reflection on Michael Jackson. Anything by anybody.
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This is just another bunch of horsesh*t being shoveled in my opinion. I HATE that people do it and I HATE that twits write about it and give the jacka$$es the time of day and another public forum from which to attack Michael. Everybody knows DAMN well that if there was ANYTHING that Sneddon could get his filthy hands on to charge Michael with he WOULD HAVE. Especially if the crime was more serious and could have resulted in heavier charges. For Gods sake...the SOB traveled around the globe trying to find dirt and this a$$h*le wants us to believe there was some 'cause HE (a convicted criminal) says so. This SOB is slinging mud and implying this BS in hopes of driving up sales of his book and I hope to hell that "somebody" takes a Kingsized chunk out of his a$$ AND the reporter for slander & libel. I see this little scheme of his backfiring in his face BIGTIME...it just pisses me off that we have to deal with another round of setting the record straight on yet another attack from scum like this D*ck(head) Tracy. Sorry for the language but in this case...a spade IS a spade and that's how I feel!!!
Now off to take some BP meds before I explode...LOL
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Whats pathetic is the media will pick up on this without thinking twice and besides us who know the TRUTH about Michael and the whole ordeal will think nothing of it.
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There are 2 sides of the coin. We heard this Pellicano.. and we did hear Michael, and he was acquitted. This Pellicano dude, wants to make money, he is in prison for 15 yrs, when he comes out how can he survive, so he needs money, how better to make money to write a book and dirty people's name.. I do not believe this shit head, he is a liar, and a cheat.. I have heard of this Pellicano, he will do anything for money, he would sell his mother to the devil if that will make him rich.. This is how bad he is..
Like Michael said you do not believe everything your read.. blessings.
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>:( Now who the hell is this son of a ..... ?!? He's a god damn criminal and needs to earn some money and get the attention on and he started to stain Michael! He just will be feeding haters' vindication and will be getting our imprecation. Hope there is Karma and it bites his ass so so soon. :evil:
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None of us believe him. It’s the rest of the world that concerns me. They are never going to let this debate die.
I have concluded that Michael Jackson haters are always going to be Michael Jackson haters and nothing to the contrary is going to change their minds about him. They will go to their graves believing that Michael is a pedophile, and no amount of information to debunk that will matter. It’s engraved in their minds and in their hearts. What concerns me are those people who are on the cusp. This kind of trash reporting might make them lean more towards the bad side unless it is quashed or at least strongly argued for the lie that it is. If we are going to work to uphold Michael’s legacy, sometimes it’s gonna take getting down and dirty with the nastiest of them just to let them and the world know that it’s still not and never will be okay for them to continue to slander Michaels name. Not for money. Not for ratings. Not for notoriety. Not for any reason. It’s a hard job, but someone has to do it. He chose us to be his army, so I’m still willing and ready to fight for the cause.
This man is straight up lying and that’s just not nice and I can’t just let it fly.
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[justify]RUBBISH [/justify]
MY head is spinning out of control.
no words to express my anger Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Hugssssssssssss to Michael and his family
Love You More
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This Pellicano character is the epitome of what I'm sure inspired Mike to write this song...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxR2p88_btw[/youtube]
With L.O.V.E. always.
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Later in the interview, Pellicano reveals that when he agreed to work for Jackson during the star’s 1993 child-molestation case, he warned Jackson that he’d better not be guilty. “I said, ‘You don’t have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will f--k you over.’ ” The detective took the assignment, but says, “I quit because I found out some truths…He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.” But he refuses to say anything more about it. It’s as if Pellicano wants to send Hollywood a reminder: I know which closets hold the skeletons.
This man does not say anything that he really did not have anything to say. There is no mother or father in this world that can withstand the sexual abuse of a child, if all these accusations could have been true in the first place Chandler does not accept money he would have sought justice
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None of us believe him. It’s the rest of the world that concerns me. They are never going to let this debate die.
I have concluded that Michael Jackson haters are always going to be Michael Jackson haters and nothing to the contrary is going to change their minds about him. They will go to their graves believing that Michael is a pedophile, and no amount of information to debunk that will matter. It’s engraved in their minds and in their hearts. What concerns me are those people who are on the cusp. This kind of trash reporting might make them lean more towards the bad side unless it is quashed or at least strongly argued for the lie that it is. If we are going to work to uphold Michael’s legacy, sometimes it’s gonna take getting down and dirty with the nastiest of them just to let them and the world know that it’s still not and never will be okay for them to continue to slander Michaels name. Not for money. Not for ratings. Not for notoriety. Not for any reason. It’s a hard job, but someone has to do it. He chose us to be his army, so I’m still willing and ready to fight for the cause.
This man is straight up lying and that’s just not nice and I can’t just let it fly.
Totally agree with you. I was thinking about what we can do about his book? Can we take it down? A petition or something works for that?
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A lot of Negative comments about a book where ever it is being sold online, can many times discourage people from purchasing it. That worked wonders with Schumley’s first book about Michael. It’s ratings were so poor that the price of the book was dropped at some sites to $l.00 or less. And many who bought it posted that they were not buying it to read it but to burn it. No profit there. That’s one way to do it. I guess we could keep looking out for it and get down and dirty just like he apparently intends to do.
And of course Twitter always helps.
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A lot of Negative comments about a book where ever it is being sold online, can many times discourage people from purchasing it. That worked wonders with Schumley’s first book about Michael. It’s ratings were so poor that the price of the book was dropped at some sites to $l.00 or less. And many who bought it posted that they were not buying it to read it but to burn it. No profit there. That’s one way to do it. I guess we could keep looking out for it and get down and dirty just like he apparently intends to do.
And of course Twitter always helps.
These are excellent ideas.
Exactly. And why does the media give this man so much freedom to say all this shit? He is a CRIMINAL for heaven’s sake. Why are they allowing him this kind of platform. It’s ludicrous. But it proves once again that anything goes when it’s a negative reflection on Michael Jackson. Anything by anybody.
Good question. Why, and why now?
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"Later in the interview, Pellicano reveals that when he agreed to work for Jackson during the star’s 1993 child-molestation case, he warned Jackson that he’d better not be guilty. “I said, ‘You don’t have to worry about cops or lawyers. If I find out anything, I will f--k you over.’ ” The detective took the assignment, but says, “I quit because I found out some truths…He did something far worse to young boys than molest them.” But he refuses to say anything more about it. It’s as if Pellicano wants to send Hollywood a reminder: I know which closets hold the skeletons."
Oh yeah, quit hah, mother fucker, if you found out something, why you did not fuck Michael over then? You had a chance be a witness in either case. Because he did not find out anything, Michael fired him. Pathetic loser.
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I'm with you Souza. I believe in Michael's innocence many many times over.
I think this criminal is on a mission here and it is far greater than just tarnishing Michael's name, he is also trying to make Rupert Murdoch look innocent. So I think that is where his motivation is from, so he makes news by talking about a superstar and casually drops hints that Murdoch is actually innocent of his crimes, how convenient. Remember subtle mind washing.
BS, I wonder if this story is even true, and if so, if that is a direct quote or that it is taken out of context. If Pellicano says that, he is lying, period. I don't know why he would do that, but we know he would not be the first.
Here is a snippet from the V for Vendetta - V for Vengeance blog:
Evan Chandler
Father of Jordan Chandler who accused Mike of molesting his son. Chandler first welcomed Mike in Jordie’s life, but soon turned around and wanted to become rich over Mike’s back. You can find a lot of background info on Chandler in the article, so we will just highlights some quotes from the article regarding the case, to give you an impression of what kind of sick game he played.
- According to sources, Chandler even suggested that Jackson build an addition onto the house so the singer could stay there. After calling the zoning department and discovering it couldn’t be done, Chandler made another suggestion — that Jackson just build him a new home.
- At no time has Chandler claimed to have witnessed any sexual misconduct on Jackson’s part.
- Dave Schwartz, Jordie’s stepfather secretly taped a phone conversation with Chandler in July, here are some of the statements he makes to Schwarz in that conversation:
“I had a good communication with Michael,” Chandler told Schwartz. “We were friends. I liked him and I respected him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. What I want.”
Admitting to Schwartz that he had “been rehearsed” about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that “he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy’s power and money.” Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.
“It’s already set, there are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I’ve paid them to do it. Everything’s going according to a certain plan that isn’t just mine.”
“Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I’ve given him full authority to do that.”
“And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]…and Michael’s career will be over.”
“It’s going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don’t get what I want.”
“This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find. All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He’s nasty, he’s mean, he’s very smart, and he’s hungry for the publicity.”
This is a leaked snippet from that taped call:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSf8q7vsxE[/youtube]
For the complete transcript of the call click here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/DS_EC_PHONECALL_TRANSCRIPT.txt).
- Chandler and his son met with Jackson and Pellicano in a suite at the Westwood Marquis Hotel. On seeing Jackson, says Pellicano, Chandler gave the singer an affectionate hug (a gesture, some say, that would seem to belie the dentist’s suspicions that Jackson had molested his son), then reached into his pocket, pulled out Abrams’s letter and began reading passages from it. When Chandler got to the parts about child molestation, the boy, says Pellicano, put his head down and then looked up at Jackson with a surprised expression, as if to say “I didn’t say that.” As the meeting broke up, Chandler pointed his finger at Jackson, says Pellicano, and warned “I’m going to ruin you.”
- At a meeting with Pellicano in Rothman’s office later that evening, Chandler and Rothman made their demand – $20 million.
- On August 13, there was another meeting in Rothman’s office. Pellicano came back with a counteroffer — a $350,000 screenwriting deal. Pellicano says he made the offer as a way to resolve the custody dispute and give Chandler an opportunity to spend more time with his son by working on a screenplay together. Chandler rejected the offer. Rothman made a counter demand — a deal for three screenplays or nothing — which was spurned. In the diary of Rothman’s ex-colleague, an August 24 entry reveals Chandler’s disappointment: “I almost had a $20 million deal,” he was overheard telling Rothman.
- Before Chandler took control of his son, the only one making allegations against Jackson was Chandler himself — the boy had never accused the singer of any wrongdoing. That changed one day in Chandler’s Beverly Hills dental office. In the presence of Chandler and Mark Torbiner, a dental anesthesiologist, the boy was administered the controversial drug sodium Amytal — which some mistakenly believe is a truth serum. And it was after this session that the boy first made his charges against Jackson. Given the facts about sodium Amytal and a recent landmark case that involved the drug, the boy’s allegations, say several medical experts, must be viewed as unreliable, if not highly questionable:
“False memories can be easily implanted in those under its influence. It is quite possible to implant an idea through the mere asking of a question. The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened.”
http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/v-for-vendetta-v-for-vengeance/ (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/v-for-vendetta-v-for-vengeance/)
I have read so much about both cases that I can say that I am 1000% sure that Mike was innocent. I knew he was before I spent weeks of investigation, months even, but I now know for absolute certainty and I can defend my opinion. No proof was found which is why it never came to official charges in 1993. Many people still mistake civil charges with criminal charges. Mike was accused by Chandler in 1993, NOT by the state because even though I am sure Sneddon wanted, there was NO evidence whatsoever. There was no evidence in 2003 either, hence Mike's acquittal.
I really urge you to read the entire blog if you haven't yet, so that if such an article emerges, that you can debunk it. Deleting threads like this is no solution, debunking false allegations is. I might post this entire blog again on the forum, hoping more people will read it even though it's almost book-sized.
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This guy is just plain ridiculous. Gina, I'd also like to know what is "far worse than molesting little boys" in his mind as well.
That Michael is a vampire feeding himself with the young boys blood crash/ ?
Imagine how it is to be accused of something you didn't do and half of the world to believe it. That's so frustrating but Michael we believe in your innocence 100% bearhug
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Why and why now? Makes one wonder if this all ties in with the US justice system and mafia wannabe pelicano is being offered something [ maybe shortened prison term, parole] for helping out a powerful person who is clutching at straws to save his or their own arse.
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Michael is like the world's best kept secret. You don't throw pearls before swine. We know who he truly is and cherish him. If the rest want to believe the trash, that is their loss. I'm just so happy to know him (even if it's just a little bit--from a distance). For those who truly are looking for truth and love truth, they will find him also! He's much more than a diamond! mj_dance/
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He is my hero penguin/ penguin/ penguin/
How can people believe the man who wrote and sing this can do something wrong to a child?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRqYVFr7sL4[/youtube]
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>:( :o >:(
I keep hearing "Here we go again!"
Same old crap, different day. The media just won't quit!
I'm hoping this has happened for a reason, for a very good 'pie in your face' reason.
When Twiggy posted the link on Twitter on Sunday night/ Monday am, I was in shock reading it. I couldn't understand what he actually said. I kept saying to myself I am asleep and this is not so.
Now it's bugging me.
It's bull, he doesn't have anything on Michael, he is getting a blurb on the website and on ET etc. I didn't see on TV if they said what he did about MJ. Good thing I didn't I might have smashed my 42" TV!!
Good thing is the comments are over 3/4 pro MJ innocent and just a few haters. Good info to read from the comments if you don't know who the pelicanojerk is.
"Here we go again. Breaking news!"
Love you MJ, everyday!! Forever!
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IMO This is another miserable idiot who seeks for attention, nth more. If he was sooo sure that MJ was guilty and did smth even worse than molesting boys why didnt he come up with his "proofs" in 1993 or 2005 when MJ was still alive?! Now when he thinks tha Michael is "gone" forever , he can come up with any lies he wants. I think we shouldnt pay attention to such ignorant morons like this. We all know the truth and the truth is that Michael is 100% innocent. That's it.
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Michael is like the world's best kept secret. You don't throw pearls before swine. We know who he truly is and cherish him. If the rest want to believe the trash, that is their loss. I'm just so happy to know him (even if it's just a little bit--from a distance). For those who truly are looking for truth and love truth, they will find him also! He's much more than a diamond! mj_dance/
You're right. Why should we believe someone who doesn't have a proof for what he's saying!?!?!?!? I am not an idiot to believe anything without a proof! I am 10000% sure he can't prove what he is saying
Period
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Yesterday when I read this in the Daily Mail I was so mad I needed to do something, so I sent the link to Thomas Mesereau as I just couldn't think of anything else to do. :oops:
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Another liar ! How can he say something like this ? Michael is incapable of hurting a fly ...enough said . I believe in Michael and he is innocent 10000000000 % I love you angel, we are here for you .
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This Pellicano character is the epitome of what I'm sure inspired Mike to write this song...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxR2p88_btw[/youtube]
With L.O.V.E. always.
Exactly my thoughts!!!
I can't even bring myself to dignify this dude's claims with a response. The ONLY thing that concerns me is how ignorant the majority of the world still is and will probably buy into this. I still believe in the power of good over evil though and I have a feeling the whole world is going to think of Michael Jackson alot differently pretty soon. In fact, the world is going to think much differently of the world itself...only a matter of time. Changes are coming!
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'He who laughs last laughs loudest'.This guy should really think before opening his mouth.A lot of people are awakened to the fact that mj was victimised and is an innocent man.However it is beasts like this that plant the seed of doubt into peoples minds.This book and its author must be dragged through the dirt and back again just like he has done with michael.Absolute disgrace.
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I can't even bring myself to dignify this dude's claims with a response. The ONLY thing that concerns me is how ignorant the majority of the world still is and will probably buy into this. I still believe in the power of good over evil though and I have a feeling the whole world is going to think of Michael Jackson alot differently pretty soon. In fact, the world is going to think much differently of the world itself...only a matter of time. Changes are coming!
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AMEN SISTER!! bearhug
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OMG, I am absolutely outraged. The worst thing is this news has reached some mainstrea media even in my coutnry! Darn! That's disgusting! >:(
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A lot of Negative comments about a book where ever it is being sold online, can many times discourage people from purchasing it. That worked wonders with Schumley’s first book about Michael. It’s ratings were so poor that the price of the book was dropped at some sites to $l.00 or less. And many who bought it posted that they were not buying it to read it but to burn it. No profit there. That’s one way to do it. I guess we could keep looking out for it and get down and dirty just like he apparently intends to do.
And of course Twitter always helps.
Good idea hesouttamylife. Do we know when his book is coming out?
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I agree with you @Simalves...it seems to me like the move of the dark side to hide their dirty deeds by attacking/using again Michael's name. The book has not been written yet if I understood correctly? What a load of crap the more they try to hide their crimes the more ridiculous it is. They're living their pending doom, nothing they can say can counter the force that's coming.
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I wonder what is considered " far worse" than molesting boys? Impaling them on some sharp sticks and place them in public view? Does that motherf&cker have an ounce of brain to state these sort of things?
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Just BS to sell his book. Apparently, it works. :|
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Whatever lies I don't entertain nonsense such as this.
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I agree with you all...What a bad people :o :( >:(
Michael we are with you and for you...You are the best and all the truths are coming out before or after.... :-*
LOVE YOU MIKE EVERY DAY MORE bearhug
moonwalk_/
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LOOK people, Michael Jackson has been accused of many believable matters! can't you see, not every fucking magazine is bullshit ok?
Open your eyes, he's faked his death, and thats not a crime? dumbfucks!...
mj_bad/
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I wonder what is considered " far worse" than molesting boys? Impaling them on some sharp sticks and place them in public view? Does that motherf&cker have an ounce of brain to state these sort of things?
My thoughts exactly! I don't remember Michael being accused of using small children for shark bait!
And he wasn't on trial for MURDER so what the F*** is WORSE than raping children?
Nothing!
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moonwalk_/ moonwalk_/
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LOOK people, Michael Jackson has been accused of many believable matters! can't you see, not every fucking magazine is bullshit ok?
Open your eyes, he's faked his death, and thats not a crime? dumbfucks!...
mj_bad/
Here's Nancy! Ho do you like that pointy boot up in your ass?
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LOOK people, Michael Jackson has been accused of many believable matters! can't you see, not every fucking magazine is bullshit ok?
Open your eyes, he's faked his death, and thats not a crime? dumbfucks!...
mj_bad/
Faking a death is NOT a crime and only retarded pathetic morons beleieve in false "accusations" to Michael. Watch your writing, we can get angry.