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Title: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: londonluck on December 22, 2009, 12:33:54 PM
FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec09/jackson_122209.html (http://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec09/jackson_122209.html)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Moonwalker312 on December 22, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
Thank you for sharing the link! :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 12:46:46 PM
yes thank you for the link. I've been trying to figure out how to access it. :)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 12:59:22 PM
DMV Record in the 2nd part - name = MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: CC on December 22, 2009, 01:00:50 PM
THANK YOU FOR THE LINK!
AT FIRST PAGE SAIS IN YELLOW MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
BUT IF YOU PUT THE POINT OF THE MOUSSE SAIS MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON... :?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 22, 2009, 01:04:51 PM
wohooo
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Secret Dove on December 22, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
DMV Record in the 2nd part - name = MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!

Why do I have a feeling that Michael has two middle names? One for stage and one for real life. For example: Michael uses Michael JOSEPH Jackson on stage(anything involved with his career/music business, etc) and he uses Michael JOE Jackson for everyday life. I might wrong. If I am wrong, I don't understand why Michael has two middle names! :?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Mish1981 on December 22, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
The records total 333 pages, divided into seven files.

3+3+3 = 9
7 files huh, interesting!!!!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 01:09:47 PM
its hurting me to read this shit about Michael... I am reading about when the 2 investigators were in the Philippines.. those fuckers just wanted money to.. it makes me sick!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: francisca81 on December 22, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: "CC"
THANK YOU FOR THE LINK!
AT FIRST PAGE SAIS IN YELLOW MICHAEL JOE JACKSON
BUT IF YOU PUT THE POINT OF THE MOUSSE SAIS MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON... :?
yes i noticed the same...
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
DMV Record in the 2nd part - name = MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!

Why do I have a feeling that Michael has two middle names? One for stage and one for real life. For example: Michael uses Michael JOSEPH Jackson on stage(anything involved with his career/music business, etc) and he uses Michael JOE Jackson for everyday life. I might wrong. If I am wrong, I don't understand why Michael has two middle names! :?


Sounds very feasible. :)  Good point.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
i know weird. page 47 of the 2nd part... " the LAPD requested that the FBI determine if a restraining order was filed __________ against Michael jackson whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, born August 29, 1958. I am confused!" so wouldn't it have to say Michael Joe Jackson on his dc.. if Joseph was his stage name but it IS saying that MJ the performer is gone, but he is still alive!

ET; change from august 28 to august 29.. had a blond moment and typed the wrong thing!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: SEHF on December 22, 2009, 01:18:21 PM
Well that was uneventful.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
i know weird. page 47 of the 2nd part... " the LAPD requested that the FBI determine if a restraining order was filed __________ against Michael jackson whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, born August 28, 1958. I am confused!" so wouldn't it have to say Michael Joe Jackson on his dc.. if Joseph was his stage name but it IS saying that MJ the performer is gone, but he is still alive!

wait 28th or 29th?

I havent gotten into the real files cuz my computer is slow. :(
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
oh im sorry i meant 29.. sorry i was typing fast.. my bad!  :oops:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
oh im sorry i meant 29.. sorry i was typing fast.. my bad!  :oops:

nah nah thats cool. I do that all the time.   8-)

I'm having a hard time figuring out the whole debate over his middle name and then i was like what? now the birthday debate. :lol: jk
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
oh im sorry i meant 29.. sorry i was typing fast.. my bad!  :oops:

nah nah thats cool. I do that all the time.   8-)

I'm having a hard time figuring out the whole debate over his middle name and then i was like what? now the birthday debate. :lol: jk


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: LLJ on December 22, 2009, 01:35:43 PM
Why are they saying that he died?

Is this the official FBI site?

Does it mean anything?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: SEHF on December 22, 2009, 01:41:15 PM
"In response to Freedom of Information Act requests, the Bureau has released its investigative files on the late entertainer Michael Jackson, who died earlier this year."

Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:43:54 PM
dang that was some crazy letters they (Michael and i think Janet) received. crazy crazy stuff. :roll:

By the releasing of these files i dont think implies Michael being gone.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 01:44:27 PM
Beginning of the year died? "Not Correct.
The end of June is the middle of the year :!:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Eva R on December 22, 2009, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Beginning of the year died? "Not Correct.
The end of June is the middle of the year :!:

exactly! FAKE!!!  :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
In any protocol must have exact dates of birth / birth / death / Location :roll:
Name in full and place of residence :?:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: SEHF on December 22, 2009, 01:50:05 PM
changed his name to 'Mikaeel'
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 01:53:19 PM
Sehf,
I have read but do not think, I do not know
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
I believe that the whole story about Michael changing his name to Mikaeel came from the stories that he converted to Muslim beliefs. Which I believe some have said had been debunked and even Jermaine (who is a Muslim) never said Michael converted to the religion. Jermaine said he just gave him the material.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 01:58:04 PM
Michael Joe Jackson is how it is read on his driver's license back in 88' or 89'. found that interesting
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 01:59:10 PM
The funny thing is, the forensic snoopers found 3-4 generation old and the video quality is poor. :lol:
What are these investigators :?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... probe.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2781952/Jacko-papers-reveal-FBI-probe.html)

 :x  :x  :x  :evil:  :evil:  :evil: Please read this, I hate it
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"

DMV Record in the 2nd part - name = MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!

Quote from: "Crescendo"
Michael Joe Jackson is how it is read on his driver's license back in 88' or 89'. found that interesting

Do you think we can already come to a conclusion on the discussions about his middle name? :?:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 22, 2009, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
its hurting me to read this shit about Michael... I am reading about when the 2 investigators were in the Philippines.. those fuckers just wanted money to.. it makes me sick!
Please can members post without using bad language? I know for a fact my Niece reads this forum every day and she is only 11 and I am sure we have young members. There is really no need for this language to get your point across. I am no snob but also I myself do not like to see words like this.
Did Michael ever use this language? Would he approve? The MJ army of LOVE? hmmm....... with words like this??????
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 22, 2009, 02:28:07 PM
My opinion here is that we have found too many legal documents that state "Joe" as the middle name.  I have listened to the jury's decision over and over and they say in the case against Michael JOE Jackson. We have also seen passports with Joe and not Joseph.  Now we have driver's license with Joe as well.  Seems to me that all legal records, with the exception of the Death Certificate are point to Joe being Michael's legal middle name.  Even if he used Joseph for stage purposes the legal DC would have to state Joe.  As far as the birth certificates for the children showing Joseph as his middle name, how do we even know for certain that those are the real ones and not just something put together by the media for show?

Anything is possible but I am going with Joe as my decision since too many legal documents are stating this.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
DMV Record in the 2nd part - name = MICHAEL JOE JACKSON!

Why do I have a feeling that Michael has two middle names? One for stage and one for real life. For example: Michael uses Michael JOSEPH Jackson on stage(anything involved with his career/music business, etc) and he uses Michael JOE Jackson for everyday life. I might wrong. If I am wrong, I don't understand why Michael has two middle names! :?


Sounds very feasible. :)  Good point.

Coincidence or not, but I made a thread about it yesterday:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1895 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1895)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
I believe that the whole story about Michael changing his name to Mikaeel came from the stories that he converted to Muslim beliefs. Which I believe some have said had been debunked and even Jermaine (who is a Muslim) never said Michael converted to the religion. Jermaine said he just gave him the material.

The Sun claimed that Michael converted, just like Jermaine. But it's not true.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Crescendo"
I believe that the whole story about Michael changing his name to Mikaeel came from the stories that he converted to Muslim beliefs. Which I believe some have said had been debunked and even Jermaine (who is a Muslim) never said Michael converted to the religion. Jermaine said he just gave him the material.

The Sun claimed that Michael converted, just like Jermaine. But it's not true.


Very nice. The Sun also claims Michael to be a bad person (if you know what i mean). But we know thats all jive. Seriously.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 02:34:39 PM
Exactly, the Sun = BS
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"

Coincidence or not, but I made a thread about it yesterday:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1895 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1895)


Well i really hope that to be the case.
I hope the man is still alive. I think many people failed to see that. I mean yes Michael had great musical talent. Singer, dancer, songwriter,etc. but aside from that he was a man. so if Michael decided to put to rest the stage persona then thats fine. Just as long as the man, the human being, is in good health, I will be very happy :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 22, 2009, 02:35:50 PM
Lets get the truth out!!!   :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 02:36:51 PM
I totally agree with you Crescendo
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 22, 2009, 02:53:59 PM
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF (http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF)

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: CC on December 22, 2009, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".

OK
THIS IS IT
ALL THE DC WE SAW SAY MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON
WHAT ELSE WE NEED???
 :D  :)  ;)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: koulio02 on December 22, 2009, 03:01:16 PM
Michael Joe [/ b] Jackson ????,
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 22, 2009, 03:01:54 PM
Thank you CC for seeing what I see...

I am doing a happy dance...hope noone comes into my office  :oops:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: mjj29081958 on December 22, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
My opinion here is that we have found too many legal documents that state "Joe" as the middle name.  I have listened to the jury's decision over and over and they say in the case against Michael JOE Jackson. We have also seen passports with Joe and not Joseph.  Now we have driver's license with Joe as well.  Seems to me that all legal records, with the exception of the Death Certificate are point to Joe being Michael's legal middle name.  Even if he used Joseph for stage purposes the legal DC would have to state Joe.  As far as the birth certificates for the children showing Joseph as his middle name, how do we even know for certain that those are the real ones and not just something put together by the media for show?

Anything is possible but I am going with Joe as my decision since too many legal documents are stating this.

Well, I tend to agree with you, but what about Michael Joseph Jackson marriage with LMP?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: loveumj88 on December 22, 2009, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".


I've always believe that Michael JOE Jackson is his real name.. :)
Now, Mike I'm soooo ready for a comeback ;)  :D  8-)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".

Right! I think this settles the name issue.
BTW, What's with the BIG smile on MJ on that driver's license (page 8)  :D
I thought that was funny  :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: CC on December 22, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
Thank you CC for seeing what I see...

I am doing a happy dance...hope noone comes into my office  :oops:

so, his will fake too??? :?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".

Right! I think this settles the name issue.
BTW, What's with the BIG smile on MJ on that driver's license (page 8)  :D
I thought that was funny  :D


lol too bad it isnt better quality of picture. I love Michael's bad era with that part he had goin in his hair. OOOooo.. ;) too sexy for me to handle.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 22, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
Who knows?!?  Maybe that is why they are having the revocation hearing on Jan 21, 2010!!!!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Ninanina on December 22, 2009, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: "mjj29081958"
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
My opinion here is that we have found too many legal documents that state "Joe" as the middle name.  I have listened to the jury's decision over and over and they say in the case against Michael JOE Jackson. We have also seen passports with Joe and not Joseph.  Now we have driver's license with Joe as well.  Seems to me that all legal records, with the exception of the Death Certificate are point to Joe being Michael's legal middle name.  Even if he used Joseph for stage purposes the legal DC would have to state Joe.  As far as the birth certificates for the children showing Joseph as his middle name, how do we even know for certain that those are the real ones and not just something put together by the media for show?

Anything is possible but I am going with Joe as my decision since too many legal documents are stating this.

Well, I tend to agree with you, but what about Michael Joseph Jackson marriage with LMP?

On the FBI page they write "Joseph", but the documents say "Joe"? I couldn't read, yet, but I will in a few minutes.
Regarding LMP: Maybe he used "Joseph" for everything he wasn't completely serious about?
I'd revoke that last question, if the children's BCs would be proven to be valid ;-)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

This is a quote from near the bottom of this report (page 45)

"The LAPD requested that the FBI attempt to determine if a restraining order was filed ________________ against Michael Jackson, whose true name is MICHAEL JOE JACKSON, date of birth August 29, 1958".

Right! I think this settles the name issue.
BTW, What's with the BIG smile on MJ on that driver's license (page 8)  :D
I thought that was funny  :D

lol too bad it isnt better quality of picture. I love Michael's bad era with that part he had goin in his hair. OOOooo.. ;) too sexy for me to handle.
 :lol:  Oh I loooove the Bad era too... But let's not get there ..ahem... back to the FBI files :lol:  *putting serious face back on*
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: LLJ on December 22, 2009, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: "Eva R"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Beginning of the year died? "Not Correct.
The end of June is the middle of the year :!:

exactly! FAKE!!!  :D

They said "earlier" this year, not the "beginning".

Why will they mention this?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Eva R on December 22, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
lol too bad it isnt better quality of picture. I love Michael's bad era with that part he had goin in his hair. OOOooo.. ;) too sexy for me to handle.[/quote]
  :lol:  Oh I loooove the Bad era too... But let's not get there ..ahem... back to the FBI files :lol:  *putting serious face back on*[/quote]
H.O.T!! I also LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that short hair like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIG-Vv9vkew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIG-Vv9vkew)

WHOOOOOO WHOOOOO HEEEE HEEE!!  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
Sorry
I must look again read the beginning of the year he died
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
its hurting me to read this shit about Michael... I am reading about when the 2 investigators were in the Philippines.. those fuckers just wanted money to.. it makes me sick!
Please can members post without using bad language? I know for a fact my Niece reads this forum every day and she is only 11 and I am sure we have young members. There is really no need for this language to get your point across. I am no snob but also I myself do not like to see words like this.
Did Michael ever use this language? Would he approve? The MJ army of LOVE? hmmm....... with words like this??????

sorry didn't mean to offend anyone. i curse a lot especially when i am mad.. will try not to.. but it doesn't make me bad b/c I curse! I have heard michael curse to btw!  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:27:42 PM
for some of Mj's pictures, i need a licking emoticon.  :D

i know. my bad. back to the FBI files..

I really cant read all that scribble.. makes me not wanna go through it all but im very curious.

Quote from: "Doreen316"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
its hurting me to read this shit about Michael... I am reading about when the 2 investigators were in the Philippines.. those fuckers just wanted money to.. it makes me sick!
Please can members post without using bad language? I know for a fact my Niece reads this forum every day and she is only 11 and I am sure we have young members. There is really no need for this language to get your point across. I am no snob but also I myself do not like to see words like this.
Did Michael ever use this language? Would he approve? The MJ army of LOVE? hmmm....... with words like this??????

sorry didn't mean to offend anyone. i curse a lot especially when i am mad.. will try not to.. but it doesn't make me bad b/c I curse! I have heard michael curse to btw! :lol:

yeah i noticed Michael started cursing after all this trash he was accused of was being told on the news. HIStory which IMO was like a broken Michael  and was his way of expressing anger and we also heard him cuss a bit. poor, poor Mikey. :(

sorry im gettin distracted again. :)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: londonluck on December 22, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
yeah i noticed Michael started cursing after all this trash he was accused of was being told on the news. HIStory which IMO was like a broken Michael  and was his way of expressing anger and we also heard him cuss a bit. poor, poor Mikey. :(

sorry im gettin distracted again. :)[/quote]

sorry, but there was too much sex when Michael said "tell her go to hell!"))
sorry for distracting you again :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
gotta a quesiton, did jordie chandler testify at Mj's trial in 2004?

ive gotten to page 4 on on the files from 2004 and everything is all blanked out that it says like *blank* had no interest in testifying.. blah blah
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:35:58 PM
Quote

You right! It's not.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: londonluck on December 22, 2009, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
gotta a quesiton, did jordie chandler testify at Mj's trial in 2004?

ive gotten to page 4 on on the files from 2004 and everything is all blanked out that it says like *blank* had no interest in testifying.. blah blah


100 % he didn't.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
Crescendo:
 
Quote
[b][yeah i noticed Michael started cursing after all this trash he was accused of was being told on the news. HIStory which IMO was like a broken Michael and was his way of expressing anger and we also heard him cuss a bit. poor, poor Mikey.  

sorry im gettin distracted again. /b][/quote]

Yeah, I can understand the frustration he had.  I probably would have been feeling the same way afterwhile.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:45:37 PM
@Eva R  Thanks for the vid <3

Man, there are some nasty hand-writings in these docs... My eyes are popping out trying to decipher :shock:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on December 22, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.

Wait are these Michael Jackson's words?

oh boy im confused again. haha

So I wonder did Michael legally change his name to Joe during the time of his resentment towards his father? and When Michael reconciled with him did Michael change it back? :roll: Confused. lol
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: LLJ on December 22, 2009, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Sorry
I must look again read the beginning of the year he died

No need to apologize. I would just really like to know why did they put it on their site?

Did the also just accecpt that MJ had "died". Are they not involved in the "investigations"?

Did they put it there only for public info and they are aware of the truth?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: LLJ on December 22, 2009, 04:00:36 PM
Quote from: "londonluck"

sorry, but there was too much sex when Michael said "tell her go to hell!"))
sorry for distracting you again :D

Do you know to who MJ said this to? "tell her go to hell"
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 04:03:06 PM
LLJ,
Yes, they're right.
Is this page FBI certainly genuine?I think something very strange.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Ninanina on December 22, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.

That doesn't explain, why the FBI uses his preferred name, unless he legally changed it.
And it must date back to at least '79, because at his first self written songs he's listed as Michael JOE Jackson.
Not for a single song he's listed as Michael Joseph Jackson.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Ninanina on December 22, 2009, 04:04:02 PM
Quote from: "LLJ"
Quote from: "londonluck"

sorry, but there was too much sex when Michael said "tell her go to hell!"))
sorry for distracting you again :D

Do you know to who MJ said this to? "tell her go to hell"

DIANE DIMOND  :twisted:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Ninanina on December 22, 2009, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.

Wait are these Michael Jackson's words?

oh boy im confused again. haha

So I wonder did Michael legally change his name to Joe during the time of his resentment towards his father? and When Michael reconciled with him did Michael change it back? :roll: Confused. lol

No, it was written by someone on LKL blog, who CLAIMS to be Michael.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: larab on December 22, 2009, 04:12:16 PM
Michael Joe is his birth name and Joseph is his business name, definetly
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 04:22:25 PM
Jacksonologist:

Quote
[Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him./quote]

Wow! Girl, I just hope this person is not playing that's all.  :|
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
Go to TMZ !

TMZ Live -- Your Questions Answered!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: londonluck on December 22, 2009, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: "LLJ"
Quote from: "londonluck"

sorry, but there was too much sex when Michael said "tell her go to hell!"))
sorry for distracting you again :D

Do you know to who MJ said this to? "tell her go to hell"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBy06xAlc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBy06xAlc)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: "londonluck"
Quote from: "LLJ"
Quote from: "londonluck"

sorry, but there was too much sex when Michael said "tell her go to hell!"))
sorry for distracting you again :D

Do you know to who MJ said this to? "tell her go to hell"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBy06xAlc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBy06xAlc)

lol Im not a big fan of nor do i condone cussing but I thought it was funny when Michael said that. He could have said a whole lot of terrible things. wasnt that bad compared to some of the other things you could tell a person.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
I dont know what Im supposed to be looking for. A body double, a secret twin or just Michael who changed his middle name in terms of legal and artists wise? I think its all the same person ofcourse just Michael who did not want to be associated with the name vs... Im not making myself clear but thats because Im equally confused with the Joe vs Joseph.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 04:44:35 PM
I have to think so far that Michael's legal name is Joe but Joesph was used maybe as a stage name.
thats just my opinion thus far.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
I have to think so far that Michael's legal name is Joe but Joesph was used maybe as a stage name.
thats just my opinion thus far.
Hi, I have the same opinion. I think the mystery of the name is finally solved.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
I have to think so far that Michael's legal name is Joe but Joesph was used maybe as a stage name.
thats just my opinion thus far.

I agree, I've said it already in my topic from yesterday.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 05:02:52 PM
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 22, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
its hurting me to read this shit about Michael... I am reading about when the 2 investigators were in the Philippines.. those fuckers just wanted money to.. it makes me sick!
Please can members post without using bad language? I know for a fact my Niece reads this forum every day and she is only 11 and I am sure we have young members. There is really no need for this language to get your point across. I am no snob but also I myself do not like to see words like this.
Did Michael ever use this language? Would he approve? The MJ army of LOVE? hmmm....... with words like this??????

sorry didn't mean to offend anyone. i curse a lot especially when i am mad.. will try not to.. but it doesn't make me bad b/c I curse! I have heard michael curse to btw!  :lol:
Ok- I just want to make you aware that youngsters read this AND don't forget that Michael liked Ladies!! He adored Princess Diana and she was always dignified and ladylike as was Elizabeth Taylor who he loved and admired. He wasn't too keen on Madonna-enough said eh?  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 22, 2009, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?


Whose crazy?  We aren't crazy...we just want the truth!  Then again, maybe we are crazy...crazy about Michael  :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 22, 2009, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?


Whose crazy?  We aren't crazy...we just want the truth!  Then again, maybe we are crazy...crazy about Michael  :D
:D DID THEY CALL US CRAZY THEN LETS BE CRAZY EVERYONE IT IS WET FISH TIME  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
@ Spakkle29Ful
Yeah  :lol:  forth with the fishes  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: juliet on December 22, 2009, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?
[/quote][/i]

And Evan answered the phoned-in question with "No, they are not crazy, they are just passionate"
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
It looked they don't want to answer the questions about MJ, they just read:
Michael Jackson...
Michael Jackson...
Michael Jackson...
Than nothing, just silence
maybe they were questions from believers :D
and they don't want to answer them
why not? :D
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: "juliet"
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?
[/i]

And Evan answered the phoned-in question with "No, they are not crazy, they are just passionate"


is evan "the other day and um.." dude?

yeah man sheesh.. its our prerogative to like whom we want... some people suck
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 05:24:02 PM
Ok- I just want to make you aware that youngsters read this AND don't forget that Michael liked Ladies!! He adored Princess Diana and she was always dignified and ladylike as was Elizabeth Taylor who he loved and admired. He wasn't too keen on Madonna-enough said eh?  :lol:[/quote]

 :lol: thats funny.  I dunno if he would have liked me too much then b/c I am not exactly ladylike. I mean i don't belch in public or anything.. lol.. but i do like beer, sports, and I have a potty mouth  :oops:  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 22, 2009, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"


is evan "the other day and um.." dude?


No,  that was Ben Evanstad if I'm right.
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on December 22, 2009, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.

Wait are these Michael Jackson's words?

oh boy im confused again. haha

So I wonder did Michael legally change his name to Joe during the time of his resentment towards his father? and When Michael reconciled with him did Michael change it back? :roll: Confused. lol

No one knows for sure who *mj* or *Michael...LOVE* are on Larry's blogs. Is it the REAL michael? Who knows. Im just quoting what knowhesalive quoted from the blogs. If what *mj* says is true then we have our answer on the Joe/Joseph debate.
Makes perfect sense to me!!
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: MissG on December 22, 2009, 06:54:35 PM
I read this today.....I wonder who the guy is....he uses "it´s all for love"  :?

http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/9a-la-142276.pdf (http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/9a-la-142276.pdf)
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: alive on December 22, 2009, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
Ok- I just want to make you aware that youngsters read this AND don't forget that Michael liked Ladies!! He adored Princess Diana and she was always dignified and ladylike as was Elizabeth Taylor who he loved and admired. He wasn't too keen on Madonna-enough said eh?  :lol:

 :lol: thats funny.  I dunno if he would have liked me too much then b/c I am not exactly ladylike. I mean i don't belch in public or anything.. lol.. but i do like beer, sports, and I have a potty mouth  :oops:  :lol:[/quote]

Well, let's remember, LMP is one tough rough potty mouth as well and MJ married her. She went as far as tattooing F*** on her ring finger.  :lol:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: pollyanna on December 22, 2009, 07:44:33 PM
Can someone tell me why these were released. What is the reason?
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 23, 2009, 07:23:32 AM
Quote from: "juliet"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
On TMZ live somebody asked: "Why are the MJ fans are so crazy"?
[/i]

And Evan answered the phoned-in question with "No, they are not crazy, they are just passionate"

Did he?  Awww, so true!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: FBI Michael Jackson files are released!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 23, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
Quote
THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:23 pm

Crescendo wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
As far as the Joe vs. Joseph thing....and thanks to knowhesalive for catching this on LKL thread.

Here is what *mj* said about his middle name.....makes sense to me. Michael himself said he used to get nauseated when he dad came in the room so this could very well be the reason behind Joe on some documents and Joseph on some others...


Here is some from *mj*....
December 16th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

My middle name is Joseph.

I will set the record straight. I have never told or revealved this to anyone, but a long ago,there was a time when I resented Joseph and didn't want to be associated with him in anyway,shape, or form. Just the thought of having the same name made me physically and emotionally ill,so from that day forward I would no longer use Joseph as my middle name,only Joe.

Many things have changed since then. Joseph and I are on great terms. I have forgiven him.

Wait are these Michael Jackson's words?

oh boy im confused again. haha

So I wonder did Michael legally change his name to Joe during the time of his resentment towards his father? and When Michael reconciled with him did Michael change it back?  Confused. lol

No one knows for sure who *mj* or *Michael...LOVE* are on Larry's blogs. Is it the REAL michael? Who knows. Im just quoting what knowhesalive quoted from the blogs. If what *mj* says is true then we have our answer on the Joe/Joseph debate.
Makes perfect sense to me!!

Well, only time will tell. It's just so hard to say and i just hope it not games. But you just never know right now. :|