Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: Steph22 on June 11, 2011, 03:31:28 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/11/michael-jackson-top-secret-videos-this-is-it-armed-guards-dr-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-sony-subpoenaed/

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The last videos of Michael Jackson were so top secret, they were transported in an unmarked truck, accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night ... this according to new docs filed in the Conrad Murray manslaughter case.


You ask what Conrad Murray has to do with MJ videos?  Well, Dr. Murray wants to see ALL of the rehearsal videos shot for the doomed "This is It" tour.  Murray's lawyers believe it could show Michael was in such a frail condition ... there were many reasons for his death other than Propofol.

Murray's lawyers subpoenaed the tapes, but now Sony Pictures -- which has possession of the videos -- is objecting for several reasons.  Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.

But in the docs, Sony describes how top secret the videos were to the studio.  Sony lawyers say, "When they were transported to the Sony lot in Culver City, the transport in an unmarked truck was accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night."

When the tapes were in an editing bay, security guards were posted outside the door and no Internet access was allowed in the room.

And a Sony honcho also submitted a declaration which says the videos "have a high monetary value inherent in their potential for future uses.  Those uses include one or more 'anniversary editions.'"
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Post by: MJonmind on June 11, 2011, 03:40:21 AM
A TII 2 would be a great way to honor the 2nd anniversary of Michael's "death". Let us judge how sick and frail he was in these other hours of footage. bounce/  It would surely make lots more $$. 8-)
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Post by: willddoMJ on June 11, 2011, 06:23:49 AM
Top Secret Hoax movie comming together? beerchug
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Post by: Kristina4LOVE on June 11, 2011, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: "willddoMJ"
Top Secret Hoax movie comming together? beerchug
party/
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Post by: PureLove on June 11, 2011, 08:55:46 AM
The trial is definitely going to be very interesting.  bounce/
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Post by: PureLove on June 11, 2011, 09:23:08 AM
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But in the docs, Sony describes how top secret the videos were to the studio. Sony lawyers say, "When they were transported to the Sony lot in Culver City, the transport in an unmarked truck was accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night."

Who is the "dead" of the night? Who is BAD? mj_bad/
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 11, 2011, 09:24:35 AM
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op Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!

6/11/2011 1:00 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

The last videos of Michael Jackson were so top secret, they were transported in an unmarked truck, accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night...

So, is this our clue? Maybe that Michael was transported by Armed Guards in an unmarked truck in the middle of the night?

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Murray's lawyers subpoenaed the tapes, but now Sony Pictures -- which has possession of the videos -- is objecting for several reasons.  Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.

This story is crazy. There is no way that "if" Sony has 20 boxes of tapes that they haven't already gone through them, watched them, logged them, and protected them. We are talking Michael Jackson - the most recognizable person on the planet and probably the most valuable name in entertainment history. This made me think of someone's storage locker where they have old home movies just thrown in a box getting dusty.

Blessings
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Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 11, 2011, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: "Steph22"

You ask what Conrad Murray has to do with MJ videos?  Well, Dr. Murray wants to see ALL of the rehearsal videos shot for the doomed "This is It" tour.  Murray's lawyers believe it could show Michael was in such a frail condition ... there were many reasons for his death other than Propofol.

I'm very interested, too. Some say he was healthy as a horse, some say he was sick and frail. If he was sick at all (he said he had laryngitis on 6-24), it wasn't to the point of DYING! He has shown no sides of being sick. In fact, I remember first seeing him at the O2 thinking how good he looked.

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Murray's lawyers subpoenaed the tapes, but now Sony Pictures -- which has possession of the videos -- is objecting for several reasons.  Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.
I'm still assuming that Murray and Sony both know about the Hoax. Like Purelove said, there's no way they are just letting 20 boxes of MJ tapes go to waste. It takes $200,000 to log them all?The actual tapes would make them millions more so that's a weak excuse  :roll:  
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: Andrea on June 11, 2011, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
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Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!

6/11/2011 1:00 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

The last videos of Michael Jackson were so top secret, they were transported in an unmarked truck, accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night...

So, is this our clue? Maybe that Michael was transported by Armed Guards in an unmarked truck in the middle of the night?

That was my first thought too.  And notice the TS in the title?  Top Secret.  I kinda really think this article was aimed towards us.  TS has been AWOL, we still haven't figured out the details of June 25th so TMZ gives us a clue?  It's possible I suppose.

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Murray's lawyers subpoenaed the tapes, but now Sony Pictures -- which has possession of the videos -- is objecting for several reasons.  Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.

This story is crazy. There is no way that "if" Sony has 20 boxes of tapes that they haven't already gone through them, watched them, logged them, and protected them. We are talking Michael Jackson - the most recognizable person on the planet and probably the most valuable name in entertainment history. This made me think of someone's storage locker where they have old home movies just thrown in a box getting dusty.

Blessings

Exactly, these tapes are not just sitting there gathering dust.  Everything's been done already...unless these tapes are the movie MJ has been filming since June 25th and are waiting to be put together for the film ...and Murray's team would know this.  Not that the movie's premiere would be in front of a jury panel but if so, I hope they at least get some popcorn while watching the greatest show on earth.  I also find it interesting that extra precautions are being taken to make sure this footage doesn't leak on the internet or get in the wrong hands.
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Post by: paula-c on June 11, 2011, 10:56:34 AM
yes, some say it was weak, some not, in the autopsy report that was published said that it was healthy ... suspicious//
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
Tapes?

Who the fuck uses tape anymore. No one. This would all be digital footage.

This is a direct link to the "missing tapes" CCTV footage from Carrolwood... which in my opinion is a direct tie in or link to something else.

I believe there ARE missing tapes, or secret tapes, or tapes that are very valuable, and hold some secret, some giant key to this entire puzzle... but I believe they are from years ago... say... 2003ish... and I believe they will come to light... and they are just flirting with us.
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Post by: shelby61 on June 11, 2011, 11:17:48 AM
What does it mean by the last videos of Michael Jackson?  Are they recent videos or videos that he did 20 years ago?  Why bring this story out now?  I am sure that the "Estate" has gathered all his artistic works.  Also reminds me when they were delivering and guarding the This is It film - Men in Black - in the dead of night lol.   Seems to be some parallels to this story and the "protection" of This is It movie.
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Post by: pepper on June 11, 2011, 11:46:18 AM
If you go to this IMDB link and check out the "Visual Effects" and "Camera and Electrical Department" crew list -
bec is right...

This would all be digital footage.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/fullcredits#cast)
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Post by: pepper on June 11, 2011, 12:01:04 PM
Isn't this the same or very similar TMZ story from April??


Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs

4/29/2011 6:50 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers have subpoenaed Sony for the raw footage from the "This Is It" rehearsals to show the jury ... Michael Jackson was a physical and mental mess before he died ... TMZ has learned.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/04/29/0428-mj-tour-ex-02.jpg)

We've learned Murray's lawyers want the tapes to show Jackson was slow, lethargic and weak in the days prior to his death.  Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Murray's lawyers want to show jurors in the manslaughter case ... Michael was ill or even dying before the fateful morning ... so it wasn't really the June 25 Propofol injections that killed MJ.


http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/29/michael-j ... slow-weak/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/29/michael-jackson-tour-warning-signs-this-is-it-rehearsals-doctor-conrad-murray-propofol-physical-mental-mess-manslaughter-trial-video-shows-slow-weak/)



Quote from: "Steph22"
http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/11/michael-jackson-top-secret-videos-this-is-it-armed-guards-dr-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-sony-subpoenaed/

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The last videos of Michael Jackson were so top secret, they were transported in an unmarked truck, accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night ... this according to new docs filed in the Conrad Murray manslaughter case.


You ask what Conrad Murray has to do with MJ videos?  Well, Dr. Murray wants to see ALL of the rehearsal videos shot for the doomed "This is It" tour.  Murray's lawyers believe it could show Michael was in such a frail condition ... there were many reasons for his death other than Propofol.

Murray's lawyers subpoenaed the tapes, but now Sony Pictures -- which has possession of the videos -- is objecting for several reasons.  Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.

But in the docs, Sony describes how top secret the videos were to the studio.  Sony lawyers say, "When they were transported to the Sony lot in Culver City, the transport in an unmarked truck was accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night."

When the tapes were in an editing bay, security guards were posted outside the door and no Internet access was allowed in the room.

And a Sony honcho also submitted a declaration which says the videos "have a high monetary value inherent in their potential for future uses.  Those uses include one or more 'anniversary editions.'"
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: pepper on June 11, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Where is TMZ's link to the "Document" they are talking about in this article?

"this according to new docs filed in the Conrad Murray manslaughter case."
http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/11/michael-j ... ubpoenaed/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/11/michael-jackson-top-secret-videos-this-is-it-armed-guards-dr-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-sony-subpoenaed/)

Don't they usually provide a link when they are talking about a specific "Document" ??

Hmmm...

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/20/creditors ... td-herpes/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/20/creditors-claim-michael-jackson-estate-std-herpes/)

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/12/michael-j ... ial-order/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/12/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-dr-david-adams-manslaughter-case-propofol-drugs-defense-trial-order/)

http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/14/katherine ... executors/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/14/katherine-jackson-fires-lawyer-michael-jackson-estate-heal-the-world-foundation-adam-streisand-john-branca-executors/)
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: happythoughts on June 11, 2011, 12:25:12 PM
I was wondering if we were ever going to know about the missing hours of rehearsal. Well the way I see it, those tape are being guarded so heavily because it A) shows that Michael isn't dead or B) shows that he was healthy. I feel like this is winding down but I've had that feeling for the past year so I am probably wrong ;)
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Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 12:30:41 PM
There was no rehearsal, only shoots for the movie  ;)

Hint hint, clue clue.
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Post by: happythoughts on June 11, 2011, 01:43:20 PM
:D  that makes sense.
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Post by: paula-c on June 11, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
I agree with bec it was always going to be a movie, and seems to always been safeguarded:

On stage with the ‘King of Pop’


Michael Jackson's "This Is It," which opened last Tuesday for an limited cinematic run of two weeks, was the king of the box office this weekend, leading both the U.S. and international charts with profits of about $101 million worldwide.

Edited from raw video of rehearsals for what was supposed to be Jackson's final concert tour this summer, the film shares intimate behind the scenes moments with one of the most widely beloved, controversial and influential artists of all-time - all captured on film thanks to the steady hands of Tim Patterson, a Corvallis native and Oregon State University graduate who worked as a cameraman and later as an editor on the film.

A once in a lifetime opportunity

Patterson lives in Valencia, Calif., with his wife, Jill Jones, and runs a small production company called Tim Patterson Productions Inc. He got on board with "This Is It" in May, after reading a newspaper article that said that AEG Live was handling Jackson's comeback concert series.

Summertime is an off-season for Patterson's business, so he decided to call up an old-friend, Paul Gongaware, who works with Concerts West and AEG Live, and he offered to shoot rehearsals of the show.

Over the years, Patterson had worked with Gongaware from time to time, on various projects including music videos and Warren Miller films. In the mid-'90s, he'd worked on promotions for Jackson's "HIStory" tour.

He couldn't have caught Gongaware at a better time. It turned out that he and other producers had just been discussing the possibility of filming some behind the scenes footage for the tour.

"I really enjoyed working with Michael on the "HIStory tour," Patterson said. "I thought it would be really cool to be involved with his last tour."

For the next six weeks, he and another camera person, Sandrine Orabona, worked closely with Jackson and the cast and crew filming about 140 hours of raw video destined to be used for archival footage and Web promotions for the tour.

When Jackson died on Friday, May 25, the entire project came to a dramatic halt just six days before the cast and crew was scheduled to fly to London for the concert series premiere at the O2 Arena.

The following Monday, Patterson was asked to bring all of the raw footage and his editing system to the AEG facilities in Los Angeles, where it was placed in a vault in a room with a security guard posted outside the door.While the world reeled in shock from Jackson's sudden death, Patterson began cutting sequences of film.


http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/ ... mode=story (http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_5f879cae-c785-11de-975d-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story)
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Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on June 11, 2011, 03:00:19 PM
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Those uses include one or more 'anniversary editions.'"

The "Thriller 25" album was an anniversary edition. In 2012 there will be a 30th anniversary of Thriller.. this time a movie 8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_25 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_25)

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The last videos of Michael Jackson were so top secret, they were transported in an unmarked truck, accompanied by armed guards in the dead of the night ... this according to new docs filed in the Conrad Murray manslaughter case.

…which makes me think of the SWAT van in which Michael’s body was transported after the memorial ;)
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/michael-j ... es-center/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/michael-jackson-casket-memorial-burial-staples-center/)
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Post by: scorpionchik on June 11, 2011, 03:14:22 PM
1. If Michael was that frail, why Murray was giving him Propofol mixed with sedatives? I see second degree murder case here, not manslaughter.
2. If tapes are top secret, why Estate does not possess them?
3. If those tapes really contain what they say, why LAPD and prosecution do not refer to them on their investigation. Wouldn't those tapes help them ease accusation?
4. What the fuck "in the dead of the night" excatly  means? Tapes so secretive they were trasported in armored car..........in the dead of the night.......along with Michael perhaps?  
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Post by: Daniela on June 11, 2011, 03:19:50 PM
The article, On Stage With The King of Pop, says "When Jackson died on Friday, May 25" ...WTF...He "died" Thursday, June 25th. How can anyone get that date wrong?
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Post by: ~Souza~ on June 11, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
Wrap it up already Mike! I'm dying to see it. lolol/

By the way, I think there is LOTS of footage from lots of years. That is why there are probably also that many tapes.
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Post by: AnaMarcia on June 11, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
The month of June is getting interesting. They said they would have some clues in this month, I think there are a couple of them here.
Murray's lawyers say that Michael was frail and weak, but according to Kenny Ortega, when he sent him to return home, Murray  interfered and said that Michael  was very fine and that Ortega did not have to intrude on their work.
This news is interesting but also very strange. It seems that the defense of Murray is totally lost, they can not even follow a coherent line of inquiry. This can not be serious!  mj_dance/
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Post by: ~Souza~ on June 11, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
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Sony claims there are more than 20 boxes of videos and it would cost $200,000 to log and reproduce all of them.

How big are the boxes? Moving boxes or storage boxes? There was around 80 to 100 hours of rehearsal, just a few big hard disks would be enough and logging and reproducing them would not cost 200K, so if there are really 20 boxes (either moving boxes or 40-feeters for that matter) means that there is LOTS of footage they are talking about that does not contain 'rehearsal' footage, but other stuff.

I hereby want to offer my help to Sony. I do not ask 200K, just enough to cover my monthly costs and I will shift through them all, log them, reproduce them, whatever you want  :mrgreen:
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Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on June 11, 2011, 04:41:29 PM
AEG shot the footage and sold the videos to Sony, right? Murray, who’s hired by AEG, wants to see ALL the videos, but Sony objects for several reasons. Only one reason is mentioned in the TMZ article. Another relevant reason might be that Murray is ordered by AEG to “steal” the videos, because of their high monetary value and may be because they claim they have still rights too. Murray’s team (AEG) thinks that the only way to get close to the videos is to subpoena them. To prevent them from stealing the videos were heavily guarded by Sony.
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Post by: fordtocarr on June 11, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
If it was sooooo top secret...how'd anyone know it was done?  Let alone at night...
Who told team Murray it was even done?  Who leaked it to TMZ ..AGAIN??
More propaganda, but aimed at Who is the question and by whom :)
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Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 11, 2011, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Michael Jackson's "This Is It," which opened last Tuesday for an limited cinematic run of two weeks, was the king of the box office this weekend, leading both the U.S. and international charts with profits of about $101 million worldwide.
One of the million things i love about Mike. He brings in $101 million worldwide just from rehearsal footage lol. Imagine what it would have made if it were actual concert footage :D :D. The man's still got it so give us a break already with this 'frail and weak and dying' shit :lol:. He's 50, not 90! And anothr thing thats gotta make you wonder: if it took them a few days to realize his 'death' may be a homicide and needed serious criminal investigation, how was the Estate allowed to release footage of MJ in his last few days? Wouldn't every second of footage be confiscated as evidence? :?
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Post by: PureLove on June 11, 2011, 05:57:20 PM
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.
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Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 11, 2011, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.

Sorta how he acted weak and helpless as the Scarecrow in The Wiz. (Notice the crows like in Dumbo and the Sunflowers. Connection or coincidence?)

[youtube:2hfs26ww]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrinCQOxB0[/youtube:2hfs26ww]
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Post by: blankie on June 11, 2011, 06:22:12 PM
geek/  bounce/        A gift for June 25?  party/







 moonwalk_/
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Post by: suspicious mind on June 11, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Wrap it up already Mike! I'm dying to see it. lolol/

By the way, I think there is LOTS of footage from lots of years. That is why there are probably also that many tapes.

you could be on to something there.
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Post by: ~Souza~ on June 11, 2011, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Wrap it up already Mike! I'm dying to see it. lolol/

By the way, I think there is LOTS of footage from lots of years. That is why there are probably also that many tapes.

you could be on to something there.

20 boxes, a box a year. BIG hoax, BIG movie, BIG shock. That's why there will be a BAM.
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Post by: all4loveandbelieve on June 12, 2011, 12:14:09 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Wrap it up already Mike! I'm dying to see it. lolol/

By the way, I think there is LOTS of footage from lots of years. That is why there are probably also that many tapes.

you could be on to something there.

20 boxes, a box a year. BIG hoax, BIG movie, BIG shock. That's why there will be a BAM.


I agree, you are on the right track Souza!
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Post by: 2good2btrue on June 12, 2011, 12:30:44 AM
HOLD UP!!!!!!! IF THIS COMPANY WAS BEHIND THE EDITING OF THIS IS IT MOVIE, WHY IS IT KENNY ORTEGA WAS PAID ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SAME JOB!!! YEP BECAUSE THAT MONEY WAS NOT, I REPEAT NOT FOR EDITING BUT IT WAS A PAY OFF!!!!


Tustin man edited Jackson film 'This Is It'
February 12, 2010|By ELYSSE JAMESTUSTIN "This Is It," the documentary film of Michael Jackson's pre-tour rehearsals, grossed more than $260 million worldwide, according to Box Office Mojo.

That's due in part to the work of Tustin resident Brandon Key, who, along with Don Brochu, Tim Patterson and Kevin Stitt, spent weeks sifting through 120 hours of Michael Jackson rehearsal footage after the pop star's death on June 25.

The editing team has been nominated for an ACE Eddie Award on Sunday, up for Best Edited Documentary against Geoffrey Richman for "The Cove" and Kim Roberts for "Food, Inc."

The rehearsal footage was planned to promote the star's planned 50-show run in London. Jackson liked to document his whole process, Key said, so Patterson had been filming the rehearsals.

"All of a sudden, M.J. died," Key said. "Suddenly this became the most valuable footage on the planet."

Key was called in to help Patterson sort through the hours of material and create a clip to help prove Jackson had been physically ready for the tour, a prevailing question among fans.


"There was speculation about whether we had cut around anything to make Michael look good. It comes through in the film he was ready to do this concert and put his heart and soul into this big comeback," Key said. "It would have been the most spectacular show of the decade, if not the last 20-30 years."

Over the next two weeks, Key and Patterson combined clips of select songs to show the executives at the entertainment company AEG. Don Brochu and Kevin Stitt joined the team.

"I think that's when it happened," Key said. "They started thinking, 'We have enough to make a feature film.'"

The editors spent the next few weeks dissecting the film song by song, he said. They worked 16 hour days, 7 days a week until they had gathered 3 ½ hours of behind-the-scenes material into a rough draft where each song told a story. The 2-hour film opened in theaters on Oct. 28.

Key is particularly proud of the "Billie Jean" rehearsal scene.

"It's just him dancing alone on the stage with no other story, props, anything," Key said. "The dancers are in the audience and you can see the adoration they have for him."

The first draft of the movie was shown to AEG executives and director Kenny Ortega.

"Kenny was speechless," Key said. "It was always for the fans. He wanted to give them a last look at (Michael's) humanity. He wanted the world to know Michael Jackson as he knew Michael Jackson, which was as an innocent, caring, humble individual."

Twenty-two documentaries were eligible for the ACE Eddie Award, said American Cinema Editors spokeswoman Lea Yardum. The list was narrowed down to three based on votes by the group's 600 members.

"This Is It" is Key's first feature film. Previously, he's worked on commercials, corporate productions, stage shows and special events through his post production company, Digital Cut.

"We were used to creating something out of nothing. This was shot without any plan, that was unique," Key said. "It was kind of fun being at the center of pop culture for a few weeks."

http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-02- ... -jackson-s (http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-02-12/cities/24632959_1_rehearsal-footage-jackson-film-michael-jackson-s)


https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MICHA ... 9810000346 (https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MICHAEL-JACKSON-DEATH-CONSPIRACIES/10150089810000346)
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Post by: MashMike on June 12, 2011, 01:49:08 AM
To me Michael never looked frail or exhausted! He was like a 20 year old young guy dancing and moving, may be these tapes will finally expose the hoax and what happened on june 25, may be this is the end of the beginning, who knows?
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Post by: suspicious mind on June 12, 2011, 10:52:13 AM
so is getting these the actual hold up with the court?
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 12, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
How can it cost so much to reproduce them all? I don't believe this.
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Post by: blankie on June 12, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Wrap it up already Mike! I'm dying to see it. lolol/

By the way, I think there is LOTS of footage from lots of years. That is why there are probably also that many tapes.

you could be on to something there.

20 boxes, a box a year. BIG hoax, BIG movie, BIG shock. That's why there will be a BAM.


I agree, you are on the right track Souza!

Yeahhh...I agree...is an adventure, a great adventure !!!!! lolol/





 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: pepper on June 13, 2011, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
HOLD UP!!!!!!! IF THIS COMPANY WAS BEHIND THE EDITING OF THIS IS IT MOVIE, WHY IS IT KENNY ORTEGA WAS PAID ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SAME JOB!!! YEP BECAUSE THAT MONEY WAS NOT, I REPEAT NOT FOR EDITING BUT IT WAS A PAY OFF!!!!


Tustin man edited Jackson film 'This Is It'
February 12, 2010|By ELYSSE JAMESTUSTIN "This Is It," the documentary film of Michael Jackson's pre-tour rehearsals, grossed more than $260 million worldwide, according to Box Office Mojo.

That's due in part to the work of Tustin resident Brandon Key, who, along with Don Brochu, Tim Patterson and Kevin Stitt, spent weeks sifting through 120 hours of Michael Jackson rehearsal footage after the pop star's death on June 25.

The editing team has been nominated for an ACE Eddie Award on Sunday, up for Best Edited Documentary against Geoffrey Richman for "The Cove" and Kim Roberts for "Food, Inc."

The rehearsal footage was planned to promote the star's planned 50-show run in London. Jackson liked to document his whole process, Key said, so Patterson had been filming the rehearsals.

"All of a sudden, M.J. died," Key said. "Suddenly this became the most valuable footage on the planet."

Key was called in to help Patterson sort through the hours of material and create a clip to help prove Jackson had been physically ready for the tour, a prevailing question among fans.


"There was speculation about whether we had cut around anything to make Michael look good. It comes through in the film he was ready to do this concert and put his heart and soul into this big comeback," Key said. "It would have been the most spectacular show of the decade, if not the last 20-30 years."

Over the next two weeks, Key and Patterson combined clips of select songs to show the executives at the entertainment company AEG. Don Brochu and Kevin Stitt joined the team.

"I think that's when it happened," Key said. "They started thinking, 'We have enough to make a feature film.'"

The editors spent the next few weeks dissecting the film song by song, he said. They worked 16 hour days, 7 days a week until they had gathered 3 ½ hours of behind-the-scenes material into a rough draft where each song told a story. The 2-hour film opened in theaters on Oct. 28.

Key is particularly proud of the "Billie Jean" rehearsal scene.

"It's just him dancing alone on the stage with no other story, props, anything," Key said. "The dancers are in the audience and you can see the adoration they have for him."

The first draft of the movie was shown to AEG executives and director Kenny Ortega.

"Kenny was speechless," Key said. "It was always for the fans. He wanted to give them a last look at (Michael's) humanity. He wanted the world to know Michael Jackson as he knew Michael Jackson, which was as an innocent, caring, humble individual."

Twenty-two documentaries were eligible for the ACE Eddie Award, said American Cinema Editors spokeswoman Lea Yardum. The list was narrowed down to three based on votes by the group's 600 members.

"This Is It" is Key's first feature film. Previously, he's worked on commercials, corporate productions, stage shows and special events through his post production company, Digital Cut.

"We were used to creating something out of nothing. This was shot without any plan, that was unique," Key said. "It was kind of fun being at the center of pop culture for a few weeks."

http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-02- ... -jackson-s (http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-02-12/cities/24632959_1_rehearsal-footage-jackson-film-michael-jackson-s)


https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MICHA ... 9810000346 (https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MICHAEL-JACKSON-DEATH-CONSPIRACIES/10150089810000346)


Hmmmmm....

Editing
AKA: Visual Editing, Film Editing
Reconstructing the sequence of events in a movie.
http://www.imdb.com/glossary/E#editor (http://www.imdb.com/glossary/E#editor)
______________
Film Editing by
Don Brochu       
Brandon Key       
Tim Patterson       
Kevin Stitt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477715/fullcredits#cast)
_______________

"After Jackson's death, Ortega was hired to edit together 80 hours of video taken on stage and behind the scenes of the "This Is It" rehearsals for the 111-minute movie."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/ ... H120091025 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/25/us-jackson-life-idUSTRE59O1H120091025)
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: suspicious mind on June 13, 2011, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.

Sorta how he acted weak and helpless as the Scarecrow in The Wiz. (Notice the crows like in Dumbo and the Sunflowers. Connection or coincidence?)

[youtube:1n57s15s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrinCQOxB0[/youtube:1n57s15s]

off topic. i saw the wiz last night for the first time ever ( as far as i can remeber) . michael seemed to just become that charactor.
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: darkchild on June 17, 2011, 12:12:56 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Tapes?

Who the fuck uses tape anymore. No one. This would all be digital footage.

This is a direct link to the "missing tapes" CCTV footage from Carrolwood... which in my opinion is a direct tie in or link to something else.

I believe there ARE missing tapes, or secret tapes, or tapes that are very valuable, and hold some secret, some giant key to this entire puzzle... but I believe they are from years ago... say... 2003ish... and I believe they will come to light... and they are just flirting with us.


Beautifully said, Bec!  My thoughts exactly!

God bless all! :)
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 18, 2011, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.
Sorta how he acted weak and helpless as the Scarecrow in The Wiz. (Notice the crows like in Dumbo and the Sunflowers. Connection or coincidence?) [youtube:1iubrooc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrinCQOxB0[/youtube:1iubrooc]
off topic. i saw the wiz last night for the first time ever ( as far as i can remeber) . michael seemed to just become that charactor.


It played on BET a few nights ago. Although it was a blockbuster failure, I still love that movie very much. Ecspecially the part when they fix Mike up @ the Wicked Witch scene and he gets up and does a cute little dance to show he's 'alright' haha!
Ok, back on topic, I read the hearing that was on June 16 and they have officially confused the hell out of me and themselves. The definition 'raw' footage is in question, I guess. Has anyone else read it?
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on June 18, 2011, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.
Sorta how he acted weak and helpless as the Scarecrow in The Wiz. (Notice the crows like in Dumbo and the Sunflowers. Connection or coincidence?) [youtube:9165s74n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrinCQOxB0[/youtube:9165s74n]
off topic. i saw the wiz last night for the first time ever ( as far as i can remeber) . michael seemed to just become that charactor.


It played on BET a few nights ago. Although it was a blockbuster failure, I still love that movie very much. Ecspecially the part when they fix Mike up @ the Wicked Witch scene and he gets up and does a cute little dance to show he's 'alright' haha!
Ok, back on topic, I read the hearing that was on June 16 and they have officially confused the hell out of me and themselves. The definition 'raw' footage is in question, I guess. Has anyone else read it?

Could you please give me a link to where i can read it?
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 18, 2011, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Michael was so healthy and strong in TII but could he show some acting skills to show up at the trial? Yeah, why not. It would help Murray to be acquitted. So be ready for an acting frail, sick Michael. I would definitely not be surprised.
Sorta how he acted weak and helpless as the Scarecrow in The Wiz. (Notice the crows like in Dumbo and the Sunflowers. Connection or coincidence?) [youtube:1d8qsrt5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrinCQOxB0[/youtube:1d8qsrt5]
off topic. i saw the wiz last night for the first time ever ( as far as i can remeber) . michael seemed to just become that charactor.


It played on BET a few nights ago. Although it was a blockbuster failure, I still love that movie very much. Ecspecially the part when they fix Mike up @ the Wicked Witch scene and he gets up and does a cute little dance to show he's 'alright' haha!
Ok, back on topic, I read the hearing that was on June 16 and they have officially confused the hell out of me and themselves. The definition 'raw' footage is in question, I guess. Has anyone else read it?

Could you please give me a link to where i can read it?

http://www.teammichaeljackson.com/tmj_327.htm
Title: Re: Top Secret MJ Videos Protected by Armed Guards!
Post by: iamhere4mj on October 12, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
As I was reading through the posts I noticed that the cameraman who shot This Is It (Tim Patterson) worked on the History tour. Maybe this is why he was entrusted with This Is It?

Here is an article from late November 2009. There is no mention of him working on any Michael project in the past, only that he occasionally worked in the music business.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-11-05/entertainment/0911040729_1_footage-concert-promoter-aeg-live-rehearsals

A personal thriller for commercial director
November 05, 2009|By Ben Fritz, Tribune Newspapers

LOS ANGELES — On June 25, just hours after Michael Jackson died, Tim Patterson drove from his suburban home to downtown Los Angeles with $60 million worth of film footage in his trunk.

As he sped down Interstate 5 in his green Lexus convertible, Patterson carried virtually all of the 140 hours of rehearsal footage from the late singer's planned "This Is It" concert series that would eventually be whittled down to the 112-minute movie that opened last week.

Patterson, a director of commercials who has occasionally worked in music over his 29-year career, was one of two camera operators hired by concert promoter AEG Live to record "This Is It" rehearsals.

Every night after work, he transferred hours of video shot by himself and collaborator Sandrine Orabona to two hard drives in his home office. The afternoon that Jackson died, Paul Gongaware, a producer of the concert and movie, called him with an urgent request: The footage, which had suddenly become uniquely valuable, had to be delivered to AEG's downtown offices immediately.

"I could have easily gone to TMZ and made a few million dollars," Patterson recalled with a laugh.

Instead, he began an unlikely odyssey in which a commercial director who had never worked on a feature film before became the only person besides Jackson's close artistic collaborators involved in "This Is It" from beginning to end. Together with longtime collaborator Brandon Key, also a commercial director and producer, Patterson worked on every cut of "This Is It," from the original footage given to the news media days after Jackson's death to DVD extras just recently completed.

"This will be the most important and incredible thing I do in my career," the 53-year-old said from his home office. "I never imagined I would get involved in concert rehearsals and end up making a motion picture." Patterson's involvement began in May when he e-mailed Gongaware, whom he has known since the early 1980s, to ask whether there might be some role for him in preparations for the "This Is It" concert while he was on a break from other work.

Gongaware was by chance planning to start compiling behind-the-scenes footage. He hired Patterson and Orabona and put together a budget of $80,000. Over the next six months, using two $6,000 Sony cameras Patterson bought for the project, they worked six days a week, often until midnight, shooting performances and candid moments and interviewing dancers, musicians and others working on the concert.

It was a simple, almost amateur production, because it wasn't intended at the time for anything more than promotional Internet videos and Jackson's private archives. Many important moments were shot by only one person, and when the performers' body microphones were turned off, fuzzy sound was captured with a boom mic attached to the camera.

"If we had known it was going to be a movie," said Patterson with a laugh, "we would have shot with nine or 12 cameras and gotten coverage on everything." The week after Jackson died, Patterson and Key were working in a makeshift office at AEG headquarters with equipment strewn on the floor, rapidly trying to figure out just what they had. Within a week of the singer's death, they cut together the initial 97-second clip from "This Is It" that was released to the media and became a cable and Internet sensation.

Over the next couple of weeks, Patterson and Key, 44, continued sorting through the clips, editing together rough cuts of several different performances and backstage discussions. By mid-July, a parade of top executives from studios including 20th Century Fox, Universal Pictures, Paramount Pictures and Sony Pictures came to one of the cramped rooms where they were working, and Patterson showed off what they had.

A couple of weeks later, Sony agreed to pay $60 million to turn the footage into a movie.

In the interim, Patterson and Key worked with Don Brochu, who edited director Kenny Ortega's "High School Musical 3: Senior Year," to assemble a first cut of about two hours and 45 minutes -- 2 1/4 hours of performances and half an hour of discussions

Patterson, who had come onto the project as a behind-the-scenes cameraman, and Key, who'd responded to an urgent call from a friend to help make sense of the footage, had unexpectedly become editors on one of the highest-profile movies of the year, one created entirely in the editing room.

As they made a film that had no script and on which the director had rarely paid attention to what was being shot, Patterson was in the incredibly unusual position of being the only person present who knew just what they had to work with. Over the course of about a month, the duo worked seven-day weeks at Sony, clipping and tweaking their 2 3/4 -hour cut into the finished movie.

The two have now returned to the lives they were living six months ago, far away from feature films and studio lots. But as they took a break from commercial work to discuss the "This Is It" experience in Patterson's home office, it was clear they're eager to work on another concert movie and yet aware that nothing can live up to their physically and emotionally exhausting experience this summer -- creating a tribute to a pop legend's life.

"I never imagined," said Patterson, whose biggest regular gig is making ads for a golf-equipment company, "that I'd ever work on a project where I would break down and cry in the edit bay."


Why would he cry? Is he aware of things?


This is part of the article paula-c posted that included the mentioning of HIStory:

Over the years, Patterson had worked with Gongaware from time to time, on various projects including music videos and Warren Miller films. In the mid-'90s, he'd worked on promotions for Jackson's "HIStory" tour.

He couldn't have caught Gongaware at a better time. It turned out that he and other producers had just been discussing the possibility of filming some behind the scenes footage for the tour.

"I really enjoyed working with Michael on the "HIStory tour," Patterson said. "I thought it would be really cool to be involved with his last tour."




Love you Michael!
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