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Title: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on April 29, 2011, 01:21:21 PM
Just wondering....How will you personally feel in July if Michael doesn't return? Will you feel like
he has really passed OR that he is still alive but never returning? Will you feel satisfied that he is
alive and left us clues but we may never see him again?? Will you still hold out hope for a return on
a later date??

I already know what I will think. I will just assume that Michael is still alive and he wanted to leave us
clues but he is not coming back.  :|  At that point, I really worry that my hope for a return will fade.

How do you feel about it??
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 01:34:22 PM
I will think he is dead because I just can not believe Michael would resist the temptation to shock the world.
He always wanted to shock in every possible way, at least this is the idea I get from his life.
I just can't believe he would stay in hidding, what's the satisfaction of it?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 29, 2011, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Just wondering....How will you personally feel in July if Michael doesn't return? Will you feel like
he has really passed OR that he is still alive but never returning? Will you feel satisfied that he is
alive and left us clues but we may never see him again?? Will you still hold out hope for a return on
a later date??

I already know what I will think. I will just assume that Michael is still alive and he wanted to leave us
clues but he is not coming back.  :|  At that point, I really worry that my hope for a return will fade.

How do you feel about it??


Like i stated on the other posts, Michael may not return this July  2012but next year with le cirque du soleil. He did warn us 4 yrs to make it, and when he said that he said it in 2008 so 4 yrs is next yr. He will come back next yr. If he does not come back this year in July I know and feel it in my bones he is alive.. have faith and be positive. blessings.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on April 29, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
I will never believe Michael is dead but maybe he just doesn't come back. If he hasn't returned at the end of 2012, I don't think he ever will. I keep my hope on july though and if not, hopefully he returns with Cirque de Soleil.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on April 29, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
All of you make such good points. I guess there is the possibility for 2012. But I, like Gina,
can't see him staying in hiding so long!  :?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on April 29, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
I'll tell you in August  :lol:
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on April 29, 2011, 06:09:56 PM
I have doubts for July. BUt I suppose he has no other choice than to be back until the trial ends. So this year most certain.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 29, 2011, 06:49:51 PM
Although I think July might very well be bamsmonth, this question alone proves to me that people are getting their hopes up on theories and speculation. MJ will be back, in his own time. July? I think it's a possibility, but this hoax is not exact science, so it could very well be any other month this year, or the next. Be patient, you don't HAVE to be here, life still goes on.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 29, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
All of you make such good points. I guess there is the possibility for 2012. But I, like Gina,
can't see him staying in hiding so long!  :?


He probably needs more time, we don't know, just have faith and be positive, positive attracts good stuff. Even if he does not return, this is the worst scenario, Oh well.. we will miss him with all of our heart and soul, but it does not mean he is dead. Yet again, I am just saying, I am not stating he will not come back. I hope I am wrong and he will come back this July.. That would be the best present we can ever have.. Blessings.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on April 29, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
I will never ever lose my hope if he doesn't come back in July. But if he doesn't come back this year, I'll be starting to think that he is not coming back at all. I never believed that he did the hoax to run away but circumstances could have changed the return plans. And one last thing, I will NEVER ever believe that he is dead.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: willddoMJ on April 30, 2011, 01:12:53 AM
I don't trust in Bam dates that others speculate on, i feel a bam, needs to be big, something that will make his fans, go wow to, something that can turn the non believers into believers, until i wake up on morning, and see MJ bam, no date speculating to a bam date, i dont trust in.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Tove on May 12, 2011, 09:13:52 AM
At first when i heard about the "death" I didn't believe it. I just thought that he wanted to enjoy his life in privacy. Then came this is it and all the clues -now I'm sure that he is going to make the takeover :)  The date or july haven't ever been important to me, he comes when the time is right. Perhaps takeover is something that requires a certain date, that we don't know yet. But I think that he is definetely going to shake the world and do the takeover in the whole world (the sooner the better, we're ready  :D ). I think he haves a major plan to save the environment and help his army of love to do the right things. He had some important reasons to HD. And he also wants to make history like no-one else before. We ain't seen nothing yet and this is it!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: TimesRemembered777 on May 12, 2011, 09:41:51 AM
Michael is not returning in July 2011 for sure, so please put that rumor to rest. Would I still hold out hope for a return on a later date? Absolutely! But it will be a MUCH later late. Let's let him have some peace and don't rush it. Patience is a virtue.

Love always,
T.R.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Tink.I.Am on May 12, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
I dont think he will be back in july this year...  rather 2012...
And when he does come back it will be in a movie, either as an actor or as a director. just flickering by on the screen in the background or a small  part.... and then a few months later BAM....!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2011, 09:52:39 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Michael is not returning in July 2011 for sure, so please put that rumor to rest. Would I still hold out hope for a return on a later date? Absolutely! But it will be a MUCH later late. Let's let him have some peace and don't rush it. Patience is a virtue.

Love always,
T.R.
And you know that because...?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: TimesRemembered777 on May 12, 2011, 10:12:08 AM
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 12, 2011, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/

No offense but, more than ever, I want you to be wrong, sorry. So can you at least be more specific about why you think he won't return in July?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Love4MJ on May 12, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Michael is not returning in July 2011 for sure, so please put that rumor to rest. Would I still hold out hope for a return on a later date? Absolutely! But it will be a MUCH later late. Let's let him have some peace and don't rush it. Patience is a virtue.

Love always,
T.R.

This is getting harder and harder to hold on to the belief that Michael is still alive. There are too many glaring situations that keep pointing to the sad (possible) reality that Michael did meet his maker on June 25, 2009. Trying to keep myself open to all possibilities because if I do not I fear the devastating consequences if he actually did died. In fact, I have somewhat mourned his death just in perparation so it would not be a terrible shock.

T.R. you speak with such certainty and confidence. Wish I was more like that.

 pale/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: curls on May 12, 2011, 11:14:19 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/

No offense from me either but that is no answer! If you're right and he doesn't come back in July, that really won't prove you knew beforehand that he wouldn't be back then.  Just a lucky guess IMO.  Please don't try and make out you know more than the rest of us with comments like this and a few heavily MJ inspired poems.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/

Oh no, that doesn't do the trick. I asked you before to stop this kind of stuff for reasons explained. I am getting sick and tired of the numerous people coming on here claiming to know everything but unable to show their legitimacy. All of them tell a different story so if you can't back up your claims, then simply STFU. I am dead serious, I don't want another so called insider to gather followers here on the forum, make up stuff and disappoint the gullible members again, because I am the one who can clean up the mess. I don't care if that person is a troll, a hoaxer who thinks he figured it out, an insider or Michael Jackson himself, I just don't want this shit on here AGAIN. Did I make myself clear?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: curls on May 12, 2011, 11:36:19 AM
Thanks Souza.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: TheRunningGirl on May 12, 2011, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/

Well TR, you may be RIGHT!

He never asked any of us whether he could FAKE IT so I guess HE won't ask any of us when and whether to ever come back!
It is up to each of us to THINK for OURSELVES and be STRONG!
HIS CHOICE and OUR CHOICE!

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 12, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
I've been waiting almost 2 years  lolol/  I guess 2 more months won't make or break me.  Either way...
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: RK on May 12, 2011, 12:12:30 PM
You would think we would have learned our lessons about BAM dates by now. I would be over the moon if he came back sooner rather than later, but it makes little difference because I will still beLIEve  and remain  convinced he will BAM even if it takes longer than I anticipate.  The world needs this kind of shock  to wake up. If hoaxers say they will give up if MJ's not back by a certain date,what I can't understand is how people could disregard everything we've learned, and not just hoax related, but world view wise.  They may think they can go back to blissful pre-hoax ignorance, but it is always going to be there in the back of their mind. Everytime they hear of another natural disaster, or watch a news or current events show, the niggling questions wil be there. I guess I'm convinced this hoax is much bigger than a little discomfort on my part and it is a very necessary wake up call. In other words, there is some serious stuff going on at the same time as the lighter side of hunting for clues.
 elvis_/ hoaxed his death but  mj_bad/ is coming back. You know he has to. He's Michael Jackson.  
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 12, 2011, 01:01:38 PM
Do you know or do you guess,  TR?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: maninthemoon on May 12, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
We've predicted many, many dates for his comeback. I won't be unsatisfied if he doesn't return in July, - when I will be unsatisfied is, if he doesn't come back by 2012's last quarter.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on May 12, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
Quote
And you know that because...?

Wait 2 months then see if I'm wrong.  rr/

Oh no, that doesn't do the trick. I asked you before to stop this kind of stuff for reasons explained. I am getting sick and tired of the numerous people coming on here claiming to know everything but unable to show their legitimacy. All of them tell a different story so if you can't back up your claims, then simply STFU. I am dead serious, I don't want another so called insider to gather followers here on the forum, make up stuff and disappoint the gullible members again, because I am the one who can clean up the mess. I don't care if that person is a troll, a hoaxer who thinks he figured it out, an insider or Michael Jackson himself, I just don't want this shit on here AGAIN. Did I make myself clear?

Amen Souza. It makes me sick really when people behave like they "know" something more than we do. Or even if they do, I hate it when they do not spill the beans but make cryptical posts to make other believers think that they're insiders. As for TR, I didn't like the way she tried to sound like Michael. It didn't matter if she said that she is not Michael because she knew that people would think if that could be Michael but changing his voice. This is simply playing with people's feelings to take more attention on herself. So, TR if you know something more than we do, spill the beans and tell it to us directly. If you are just assuming about the return like the rest of us, stop writing like you "know" it for real.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: maninthemoon on May 12, 2011, 01:17:09 PM
You're right, PureLove. I am also tired of the newcomers who come in and think they know something more than we do. Instead, it must be the opposite. He must've just read the information on our homepage with stuff collected by Souza and other members and he comes here "all cool" and starts predicting shit.

On topic, all we can do is wait. Also, why is it taking so long for BTM music video to come out? I want to see it and look for more clues.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: TimesRemembered777 on May 12, 2011, 02:10:42 PM
My sincere apologies. I will not say another word about dates, time, info, clues, future, etc. I totally understand where you are coming from. No problem at all.

Peace and love,
TR

P.S. Souza, can you please delete my "Pranksta Gangsta gives birth" thread? I don't want any trouble. Thanx.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 12, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
You haven't. lolol/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: TimesRemembered777 on May 12, 2011, 02:31:03 PM
Quote
You haven't.  lolol/

Yes I have, see above. And I don't think it's funny at all that a few people were angry or offended. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 12, 2011, 02:34:05 PM
I meant..you haven't posted clues, dates etc. so why did you say you wouldn't anymore. That was my LOL.
Relax!!!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: suspicious mind on May 12, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
I'll tell you in August  :lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 12, 2011, 02:50:48 PM
Quote from: "TimesRemembered777"
My sincere apologies. I will not say another word about dates, time, info, clues, future, etc. I totally understand where you are coming from. No problem at all.

Peace and love,
TR

P.S. Souza, can you please delete my "Pranksta Gangsta gives birth" thread? I don't want any trouble. Thanx.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this mean that you don't know for sure Michael won't come back in July. Or do you mean you don't want or can't explain why you know so.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 12, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
means he doesn't want to get a ban.  afraid/  afraid/ i'm a psychic
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Delphi on May 12, 2011, 03:25:21 PM
He didn't give any inflection of "I know more than you" from what I read. I think he meant for you guys to not get your hopes up around a rumor. It seems like a couple've posts have been rather snappier than I last remembered coming here... I guess I can understand all these people coming in being fakers, but it's also hard to gather context from written messages online.

I personally don't believe there's going to be a bamsday, let alone a return at all. I joined this forum a little while ago with little to no expectations at all, but I HAVE learned lots...and if it's anything I've learned, it's to not mark my calendar. Last year I joined during the summer, and I waited it out with you guys, the first anniversary of his 'death', his birthday, all the way to Christmas. All the while, I had no expectation of him really returning. Not because I'm a negative person, but because I don't want to be let down when he didn't.

A lot of members seem to hang on to a specific date just to 'prove non-believers wrong'. This isn't quite the way to go. Nobody's out to prove anyone wrong. All the proof you need reveals itself in time...Whether or not Michael returns.

Take care, guys.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on May 12, 2011, 03:36:03 PM
WOW! Alot has happened since I last checked this thread! Thanks everyone for replying.
I am not going to rely on dates anymore! There is no way to know if and when he will return.
The one thing I am sure about is that he is alive!!!! I guess I will have to learn to just
be happy with that information and not expect anything more. If he does return?? Well, that will be
the most amazing day any one of us can imagine!   bow/  mj_bad/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 12, 2011, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Do you know or do you guess,  TR?

Do you really want to know heart?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Love4MJ on May 12, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
When times's a crime
We have to draw the line
One minute feelin' fine
It's all a dozen for a dime
But when you're trackin'
Just keep backin'
Oh yeah
And one more thing
Keep watchin'
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 12, 2011, 05:57:00 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Do you know or do you guess,  TR?

Do you really want to know heart?

I don't know :lol:
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Do on May 12, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
I posted this on another thread but it answers your question I think.
Ofcourse I hope I'm wrong.

I've been quiet for some time now, meaning that I was not posting because I didn't feel I've got something important to add, although I'm here almost every single day to read and re-read, and visiting other blogs, sites, youtube and watching old taped tv-programms over and over again, because I felt maybe I was missing something important, something that I had overlooked. The postponing of the trial hit me, because now, again, we have to wait so much longer before we have the chance to learn more about new details, the hoax etc.
And then came the tweets of Jermaine. Although I still believe Michael is alive, first I believed and expected that eventually, Michael would come back to us. I don't know, maybe I had the dream that we, the believers, would get a special treatment from him, for all the love and support he was getting from us during this difficult time. Maybe it's selfish, but as a supporter for over 30 yearts, that would be a dream come true!! But first and foremost, this is about Michael and his safety, his plans and his family, I DO understand that! I only was talking about my DREAM!
This afternoon, I was watching the Schmuley tapes again and part 6 hit me hard!! Don't listen to Schmuley, listen to what Michael has said (listen to the first minute of the vid). Ánd think of it, he said this when he already had his first 2 children and BEFORE the horrible trial he would have to face in the years to come. What has this trial done to his spirit? Think of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag)
[youtube:2jguuzmt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag[/youtube:2jguuzmt]
I'm devastated, because (especially after Jermaine's tweets), I really don't think he is coming back. He left us the clues to let us know that he is okay, but the TII-announcement and the movie, was this his final goodbye? I REALLY REALLY don't hope so, I want to see his face again, his HAPPY face, because he has accomplished whatever he was after.
Please Michael, forgive me my selfishness, I REALLY want you to be happy and okay, I just hope I will see you again in the future! Stay strong, I will try doing the same!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on May 12, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: "Do"
I posted this on another thread but it answers your question I think.
Ofcourse I hope I'm wrong.

I've been quiet for some time now, meaning that I was not posting because I didn't feel I've got something important to add, although I'm here almost every single day to read and re-read, and visiting other blogs, sites, youtube and watching old taped tv-programms over and over again, because I felt maybe I was missing something important, something that I had overlooked. The postponing of the trial hit me, because now, again, we have to wait so much longer before we have the chance to learn more about new details, the hoax etc.
And then came the tweets of Jermaine. Although I still believe Michael is alive, first I believed and expected that eventually, Michael would come back to us. I don't know, maybe I had the dream that we, the believers, would get a special treatment from him, for all the love and support he was getting from us during this difficult time. Maybe it's selfish, but as a supporter for over 30 yearts, that would be a dream come true!! But first and foremost, this is about Michael and his safety, his plans and his family, I DO understand that! I only was talking about my DREAM!
This afternoon, I was watching the Schmuley tapes again and part 6 hit me hard!! Don't listen to Schmuley, listen to what Michael has said (listen to the first minute of the vid). Ánd think of it, he said this when he already had his first 2 children and BEFORE the horrible trial he would have to face in the years to come. What has this trial done to his spirit? Think of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag)
[youtube:2p1e8zap]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag[/youtube:2p1e8zap]
I'm devastated, because (especially after Jermaine's tweets), I really don't think he is coming back. He left us the clues to let us know that he is okay, but the TII-announcement and the movie, was this his final goodbye? I REALLY REALLY don't hope so, I want to see his face again, his HAPPY face, because he has accomplished whatever he was after.
Please Michael, forgive me my selfishness, I REALLY want you to be happy and okay, I just hope I will see you again in the future! Stay strong, I will try doing the same!

Do, Thank you for this video. Hearing what Michael says during the first minute, reminds me how badly Michael
wanted to disappear. He needed an escape. If he has finally found the happiness he was looking for by remaining
out of the spotlight, than I am all for him never returning. I would rather him remain happy off in his own little
world than return to the public eye only to be ridiculed again. I don't have much faith in the general public. I really
think that most of them would throw stones. Only a small group of fans would truly understand the reasons for the
hoax death. The media and most people couldn't handle it. It is beyond anything they could ever perceive.  :o
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: JMseesMJ on May 13, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Do and Lovely One, I was waiting for someone with a realistic assessment of the situation. 

I just hope more people will read your post.

Thank you both ! 
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on May 13, 2011, 03:36:14 AM
Don't lose hope, there are goals to achieve in this hoax that's why the return takes so long. We agreed that it was all planned since several years and until these goals are achieved Michael cannot come back...but he will in due time I am sure about that, it's all under God's control.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: 5m007h_Cr1m1n4l on May 13, 2011, 05:58:37 AM
Quote from: "Delphi"
I personally don't believe there's going to be a bamsday, let alone a return at all. I joined this forum a little while ago with little to no expectations at all, but I HAVE learned lots...and if it's anything I've learned, it's to not mark my calendar. Last year I joined during the summer, and I waited it out with you guys, the first anniversary of his 'death', his birthday, all the way to Christmas. All the while, I had no expectation of him really returning. Not because I'm a negative person, but because I don't want to be let down when he didn't.
The phrases I've bolded perfectly express my situation, also. Since joining the forum recently, I have learned A LOT, and my mind has become MUCH more open to the possibulity that Michael may still be with us.  But I, like Delphi, have little to no expectations of a return, because I do not want to be hurt if it never happens.

I'm not going to lie: a part of me does sometimes get caught up in all the speculation on dates, numerological clues, etc.  One very positive thing about this forum for me personally, is that it has inspired me to revisit Michael's music again.  So, even if he's really gone, my finding this place and being here is still absolutely worth something, since it has reignited my passion for the man and his music.

Thanks for your post, Delphi!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MJhasSpoken on May 13, 2011, 06:10:45 AM
Read post later
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 13, 2011, 06:18:37 AM
If he's not coming back nothing makes sense....he's as good as dead for us pale/  :(

and there's no guarantee he's happy or healty or whatever

I still believe he has to come back if he is alive. Or I have a totally wrong idea about who Michael Jackson is  confused/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: mjfansince4 on May 13, 2011, 06:19:41 AM
[youtube:v7gypp0z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0tsKCB4lc&playnext=1&list=PL52FE6A47E932FC33[/youtube:v7gypp0z]

Now, are you all ready?
Are y'all ready?
Now we gonna do it with the fever
Yeah, Come on

Ain't no stoppin' us now
We're on the move (yeah-ee-a, yeah-ee-a)
Ain't no stoppin' us now
We've got the groove
Spice Girls, check it out

There've been so many things that have held us down
But now it looks like things are finally comin' around, yeah
I know we've got a long long way to go, yeah
And where we'll end up
I don't know
But we won't let nothing hold us back
We gonna get ourselves together
We gonna polish up our act, yeah
And if you've ever been held down before
I know that you refuse to be held down any more, yeah yeah
Don't you let nothing, nothing
Nothing stand in your way
And all we gonna do
I want you to listen, listen (That's right)
To every word I say
Every word I say about it

Ain't no stoppin' us now
We're on the move
(You said it, we've got the groove)
Ain't no stoppin' us now
We've got the groove (Whoo-hoo-oo-oo Whoo-hoo-oo)
Ain't no stoppin' us now
We're on the move
(We've got the groove)
Ain't no stoppin' us now
We've got the groove (Yeah)

Look, Lemme tell you this
I know you know someone who's got a negative vibe (Euhh)
And if you only help it will only keep it alive (Sh-yeah)
They really don't have nowhere to go
Ask 'em where they're going
They don't know
But we won't let nothing hold us back
We gonna get ourselves together, come on
We gonna polish up our act, yeah
And if you've ever been held down before
I know that you refuse to be held down any more, Oh oh oh

Don't you let nothing, nothing
(I won't do it) Stand in your way (No no)
And all we gonna do
I want you to listen, listen
To every word I say
Every word I say about it

Ain't no stoppin' us now (That's right)
We're on the move
(Nothing gonna, nothing gonna)
(Stop us now, stop us now)
Ain't no stoppin' us now, Come on
We've got the groove (Whoo-oo-oo yeah yeah)
Ain't no stoppin' us now (No no no)
We're on the move
(On the move, yeah-ee-a, yeah-ee-a)
Ain't no stoppin' us now
We've got the groove (Yeah)

Now, let's see it
Don't wanna stop
Please don't make me stop (I don't wanna)
Don't wanna stop
Please don't make me stop (No-oh No-oh)
Don't wanna stop
Please don't make me stop (I don't want to)
Don't wanna stop
Please don't make me stop
(Uh, y'all spell it out for me)

S-T-O-P-P-I-N
Ain't no (Doo-oo, Yeah-heh-a)
S-T-O-P- (to the) P- (to the) I-N (You got it)
Ain't no (Ain't no, no-no)
S-T-O-P-P-I-N (Go ahead)
Ain't no (Ain't no, no-oh-no, no-oh-no)
S-T-O-P- (to the) P- (to the) I-N (Come on)
Ain't no (No, yeah-ee-a, yeah-ee-a)

Ain't no stoppin' us now
We're on the move
Don't wanna stop, please don't make me stop (Yeah yeah)
Ain't no stoppin' us now (Yeah)
We've got the groove
Don't wanna stop, please don't make me stop
(Whoo-oo, Come around with me)

Ain't no stoppin' us now
We're on the move
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Do on May 13, 2011, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Do, Thank you for this video. Hearing what Michael says during the first minute, reminds me how badly Michael
wanted to disappear. He needed an escape. If he has finally found the happiness he was looking for by remaining
out of the spotlight, than I am all for him never returning. I would rather him remain happy off in his own little
world than return to the public eye only to be ridiculed again. I don't have much faith in the general public. I really
think that most of them would throw stones. Only a small group of fans would truly understand the reasons for the
hoax death. The media and most people couldn't handle it. It is beyond anything they could ever perceive.  :o

Lovely One, I have to agree with you, I don't think many people will understand the possible reasons for his hoaxed death. Maybe because they don't listen what he REALLY has to say about it (didn't we all miss important information Michael was telling us in his lyrics, interviews etc. in the past? I know I did :() Or maybe because the media will feed us (again) with information that isn't correct at all. WE know now that this information does not always match with the truth, buth how many people aren't aware of this? I can understand it if Michael chooses not to come back, but after thinking of it, and IF this really is a hoax, why the 'criminal' part in it? Why all the hoopla with CM, it could have been done easier. I don't know, there has to be something more to it.
What gives me a little bit of hope, is this part in the vid:

Schmuley: You don't want to die young?
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure want my answer?
(YES, YES, I WANT THAT ANSWER!!!)

This is the only quote that can mean a positive or a negative thing to me. That he did make plans back then to withdraw completely in the future (but again, why so BIG and why did we see his children right before he 'disappaered', after wearing a mask all this years?), or did he make plans to reveal (with our help, remember: there's nothing that can't be done, if we raise our voice as one) many rotten things in this world (and maybe to protect himself and his family) by hoaxing his death and at the right time, coming back to start a revolution (I hope I explain it well, it's difficult!)
Thank you for your reply!

Quote
JMseesMJ wrote: Do and Lovely One, I was waiting for someone with a realistic assessment of the situation.

I just hope more people will read your post.

Thank you both !

JMseesMJ, thank you for your reply, like I wrote above to Lovely One (Oh my, I LOVE that song!!!!), I still have a little bit of hope left, but if Michael chooses not to come back, I truly understand it. I still don't know how he managed all of the sh.t in his life for so long. What a strong man he is!

@Sarahli
Thank you Sarahli, you've been a real sunshine to me on this journey, and you are a real 'keeper of the faith'! I love your optimism and it helped me a lot! Hugs!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Do on May 13, 2011, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
If he's not coming back nothing makes sense....he's as good as dead for us pale/  :(

and there's no guarantee he's happy or healty or whatever

I still believe he has to come back if he is alive. Or I have a totally wrong idea about who Michael Jackson is  confused/

Gina, you're right about what you wrote about there's no guarantee he's happy or healty or whatever, and I've been thinking the same for a long time.
But, maybe that's why we were giving the clues. To let us know that he's still here, but not in the public anymore.
The slipups of the familymembers gave me a lot of hope that he would come back ('this is not it', 'the best is yet to come' etc.) but I don't rely on the familymembers too much anymore. They also were giving us lots of 'clues' that he's dead (for instance the book his mother wrote, I felt that was odd). We just have to wait I'm afraid, and not forget to live our own lives also (but I admit, that it's hard, because Michael is in my thoughts most hours of the day!! ;)
I'm here with you, hugs!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on May 13, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: "Do"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Do, Thank you for this video. Hearing what Michael says during the first minute, reminds me how badly Michael
wanted to disappear. He needed an escape. If he has finally found the happiness he was looking for by remaining
out of the spotlight, than I am all for him never returning. I would rather him remain happy off in his own little
world than return to the public eye only to be ridiculed again. I don't have much faith in the general public. I really
think that most of them would throw stones. Only a small group of fans would truly understand the reasons for the
hoax death. The media and most people couldn't handle it. It is beyond anything they could ever perceive.  :o

Lovely One, I have to agree with you, I don't think many people will understand the possible reasons for his hoaxed death. Maybe because they don't listen what he REALLY has to say about it (didn't we all miss important information Michael was telling us in his lyrics, interviews etc. in the past? I know I did :() Or maybe because the media will feed us (again) with information that isn't correct at all. WE know now that this information does not always match with the truth, buth how many people aren't aware of this? I can understand it if Michael chooses not to come back, but after thinking of it, and IF this really is a hoax, why the 'criminal' part in it? Why all the hoopla with CM, it could have been done easier. I don't know, there has to be something more to it.
What gives me a little bit of hope, is this part in the vid:

Schmuley: You don't want to die young?
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure want my answer?
(YES, YES, I WANT THAT ANSWER!!!)

This is the only quote that can mean a positive or a negative thing to me. That he did make plans back then to withdraw completely in the future (but again, why so BIG and why did we see his children right before he 'disappaered', after wearing a mask all this years?), or did he make plans to reveal (with our help, remember: there's nothing that can't be done, if we raise our voice as one) many rotten things in this world (and maybe to protect himself and his family) by hoaxing his death and at the right time, coming back to start a revolution (I hope I explain it well, it's difficult!)
Thank you for your reply!

Quote
JMseesMJ wrote: Do and Lovely One, I was waiting for someone with a realistic assessment of the situation.

I just hope more people will read your post.

Thank you both !

JMseesMJ, thank you for your reply, like I wrote above to Lovely One (Oh my, I LOVE that song!!!!), I still have a little bit of hope left, but if Michael chooses not to come back, I truly understand it. I still don't know how he managed all of the sh.t in his life for so long. What a strong man he is!

@Sarahli
Thank you Sarahli, you've been a real sunshine to me on this journey, and you are a real 'keeper of the faith'! I love your optimism and it helped me a lot! Hugs!


@ DO ---I saw that where Michael said..."You sure you want my answer?" That right there says alot!!! His reasons for
this hoax death are becoming very clear to me. I hate to say it, but why would he return? After an elaborate scheme
to drop out of the spotlight...why come back??  I hope more people watch this video. Its very important!!!

@JMseesMJ, Thank you for your reply to our posts. We are putting 2 and 2 together here and I am starting to
see things from a new angle. It may not be the angle we want, but if its for the best for Michael, than so be it.
No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired. I will always welcome a return from him
though!!!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on May 13, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
If he had no plans to return, why did he "die" in such a way as to leave his children with the stigma of their father having died as a wacked out weirdo drug addict and suspected child molester who had lost control over everything in his life...?

Makes no sense at all... to leave that legacy to his kids forever. *shakes head* I do not accept that.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 12:21:11 PM
Quote
No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired

What about the interview with Geraldo in 2005? The way he is telling about his new project, he even tells how much fun he has doing it.Doesn't sound to me as someone who wants to be left alone or retire. :lol:

[youtube:37t4o4sc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgDDCTdMoU&feature=related[/youtube:37t4o4sc]
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on May 13, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
Good point allforlove, MJ states very clearly, in his own words, in the midst of a child molestation accusation trial, that he is, and I quote, "having a lot of fun".

He plans to return. Have no doubt.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
Thank you bec. What about the interview he did in 2008 at his birthday? Esspecially the part at 3.38 min, looks like he had plans to introduce us new stuff. mj_bad/

[youtube:kxiz65tt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVRFS8zcspo[/youtube:kxiz65tt]
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on May 13, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
mmmhmmm, you can't ignore this evidence. These are good reminders of all the work we have done and all the information we have uncovered. It was all put on the web for us to find, it is not a coincidence that all this media has been put out there. He is coming back. The King will Return.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Do on May 13, 2011, 02:28:29 PM
Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: "Do"
Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?

Anything is possible but we know how much of a perfectionist Michael is. I'm sure he has considered all possiblilities and problems he could face in time.So, I don't think this made anything different. In fact, it could very well be a part of his plan. bearhug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Do on May 13, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
Quote
@ DO ---I saw that where Michael said..."You sure you want my answer?" That right there says alot!!! His reasons for
this hoax death are becoming very clear to me. I hate to say it, but why would he return? After an elaborate scheme
to drop out of the spotlight...why come back?? I hope more people watch this video. Its very important!!!

@JMseesMJ, Thank you for your reply to our posts. We are putting 2 and 2 together here and I am starting to
see things from a new angle. It may not be the angle we want, but if its for the best for Michael, than so be it.
No wonder Jermaine is speaking like this. I bet Michael wants to be left alone. Its starting to look that way.
Right now my thoughts are that Michael is not dead.....He has retired. I will always welcome a return from him
though!!!

@Lovely One, again you are making a lot of sense! Although I didn't feel this way untill very recently. What Bec, Allforlove and all other members put up on evidence, we can't ignore that either, but like I said in my previous post, Michael could have changed his mind. But on the other hand, why start all this and don't finish it?? AAAAAARGGHHHH, what a puzzle, it seems like the Da Vinci code, I better start to watch that movie!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on May 13, 2011, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: "Do"
Hi Bec and Allforlove,

You're both right, there is also a lot of evidence that points in the direction of a 'come back'. That's why I still haven't lost all hope!! And still wanting the answer to the question of Schmuley!!!!
Michael: Um...you...you're asking me an interesting question..You sure you want my answer?

OFCOURSE!!!

But it still could go the other way, after Jermaines tweets. Michael could have changed his mind you know?

I always believed in a come back. And I'm 100% sure that Michael planned a come back. Because without it, this would not be Thriller II and how would he "shock the world" like he says? I still believe that he wants to come back but after Jermaine's tweets, I started to think that the return might have cancelled by the FBI because of protection issues OR it might have been pushed back. I personally do not believe that Michael is pulling the strings all himself in the hoax. FBI is definitely helping him out and they can change things when it comes to protection and privacy issues. So what I believe for now is, even if he is going to come back, it is not going to happen soon but in a couple of years. I'm not expecting a sudden BAM for this summer or for this year. But of course, these are just theories and any of us know this as a fact. So we'll wait and see all together.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Steph22 on May 13, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
omg, thank you so much for this video allforlove. I think I just fell in love with him all over again  :oops: His smile, his laughter, his whole attitude. *sigh*

But sorry, I'm off topic here. I still believe there will be a comback. Now I know this might just be wishful thinking on my part. I don't want to think of a life in which I will never see this sweet man again. There is enough evidence that he will come back. Why would he leave so many clues and then not return? If he really was intending to never return he would have never left clues and just left everybody believe he is really dead. Why would he go through so much trouble? Do you think that he just did this so that his fans would know he is still there? That's nonsense imo. If he really wanted to be left alone he would have just been gone without any clues.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: "Steph22"
omg, thank you so much for this video allforlove. I think I just fell in love with him all over again  :oops: His smile, his laughter, his whole attitude. *sigh*

But sorry, I'm off topic here. I still believe there will be a comback. Now I know this might just be wishful thinking on my part. I don't want to think of a life in which I will never see this sweet man again. There is enough evidence that he will come back. Why would he leave so many clues and then not return? If he really was intending to never return he would have never left clues and just left everybody believe he is really dead. Why would he go through so much trouble? Do you think that he just did this so that his fans would know he is still there? That's nonsense imo. If he really wanted to be left alone he would have just been gone without any clues.

Hi steph22, just for you this pic, so you can keep on watching him. bearhug

(https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhttp%26%2358%3B%2F%2Fi827%26%2346%3Bphotobucket%26%2346%3Bcom%2Falbums%2Fzz198%2FHannahButterfly%2Fmjgifs145%26%2346%3Bgif&hash=d7ed8148766d5948ccf4cc27a90395d5)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Steph22 on May 13, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
awwww thank you honey. That's sweet. I really love this guy. :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
Quote from: "Steph22"
awwww thank you honey. That's sweet. I really love this guy. :)

You're not the only one. I sure can't get enough of him. moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Steph22 on May 13, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
I know. :) we all love him so much and that's the reason why he needs to come back. There are so many people out here that love him dearly. I hope he knows that
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on May 13, 2011, 04:07:46 PM
For you Do  bearhug  that's so sweet what you have said Bless you....being positive and keeping the faith with others helps me as well, my love to you  :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 13, 2011, 04:31:24 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Good point allforlove, MJ states very clearly, in his own words, in the midst of a child molestation accusation trial, that he is, and I quote, "having a lot of fun".

He plans to return. Have no doubt.

Very interesting observation Bec.
Someone said that Michael hoaxed his entire life. It's not that difficult to imagine this, after all if we are to believe what others say, he wanted his life to be some kind of show. Well and this is what his life is.

I can't imagine no return, I know it's the craziest thing in the world to be done  ....but after all it's Michael Jackson we are talking about  mj_dance/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Lovely One on May 13, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
Lets hope you guys are right!! You are bringing my spirits back up for hope for a return.
Unless well, like Do said, he might have changed his mind.....It is a huge puzzle!!

I was sitting here thinking that IF perhaps Michael was trying to 'retire' as the King of Pop, than
maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself) Same for the
memorial when his family is smiling and laughing. Maybe they are happy that Michael got his
freedom finally and the memorial was kind of like a party...THATS one of the reasons I say that
he could have retired.

What doesnt make sense is what Do and Bec was stating. WHY go through all of the hard stuff
just to disappear AND also, why leave that kind of legacy. A drugged out pop-star who died of
an overdose. Yea, doesn't make sense.  Man , this just gets more puzzling as time goes on!!!  crash/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: allforlove on May 13, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
Quote
maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself

To me all the laughing seems to be of someone who knows there's gonna be a big surprise. Also almost like a child who knows a secret and having a hard time to hide it. geek/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on May 13, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Lets hope you guys are right!! You are bringing my spirits back up for hope for a return.
Unless well, like Do said, he might have changed his mind.....It is a huge puzzle!!

I was sitting here thinking that IF perhaps Michael was trying to 'retire' as the King of Pop, than
maybe it could be a good reason for all of the smiles and laughs from his family. Also Jermaine
laughing in that interview...saying he knows who is responsible could mean that he knows who is
responsible for helping Michael escape the limelight (so he chuckles to himself) Same for the
memorial when his family is smiling and laughing. Maybe they are happy that Michael got his
freedom finally and the memorial was kind of like a party...THATS one of the reasons I say that
he could have retired.

What doesnt make sense is what Do and Bec was stating. WHY go through all of the hard stuff
just to disappear AND also, why leave that kind of legacy. A drugged out pop-star who died of
an overdose. Yea, doesn't make sense.  Man , this just gets more puzzling as time goes on!!!  crash/

This can be the answer maybe.

Quote from: "PureLove"

I always believed in a come back. And I'm 100% sure that Michael planned a come back. Because without it, this would not be Thriller II and how would he "shock the world" like he says? I still believe that he wants to come back but after Jermaine's tweets, I started to think that the return might have cancelled by the FBI because of protection issues OR it might have been pushed back. I personally do not believe that Michael is pulling the strings all himself in the hoax. FBI is definitely helping him out and they can change things when it comes to protection and privacy issues. So what I believe for now is, even if he is going to come back, it is not going to happen soon but in a couple of years. I'm not expecting a sudden BAM for this summer or for this year. But of course, these are just theories and any of us know this as a fact. So we'll wait and see all together.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: AnaMarcia on May 13, 2011, 04:55:59 PM
It's all so confusing. I think Michael really had plans to return to the stage. I read comments about it since 2006. Have you read these articles?
I still hope to see him perform at least once more, but sometimes gives a discouragement!


Caption: May 30, 2007 - Las Vegas, Nevada....

Jackson Moving To Europe To Resume Career
                              
LATEST: Pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON, who has been living in Bahrain since he was acquitted of child molestation charges, is moving to Europe. Jackson has fired his business managers and has hired a New York City-based firm to oversee his business affairs. RAYMONE K BAIN released a statement on Tuesday (27JUN06), announcing she has been named general manager of the new Michael Jackson Company, which will replace Jackson's MJJ Productions. She said Jackson is planning public appearances and will begin performing again. Bain said in the statement, "He is reviewing numerous offers to tour musically, which he plans to embark upon within the next several months. "Mr Jackson has previously announced plans to record an album, which he predicts will be released in 2007." Bain says Jackson has severed times with his Bahraini lawyers, longtime accountants and business managers and has hired a firm "known for restructurings and turnarounds." The revamping is "the first of a sweeping restructuring of his personal and business affairs" and Bain says "he is continuing to build his management team and other appointments will be forthcoming." Jackson is currently in Ireland on "personal business" and proceeding with plans to relocate.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... er_1000982 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-moving-to-europe-to-resume-career_1000982)


And this:

Caption: May 30, 2007 - Las Vegas, Nevada....

Jackson Returns To Us
                              
MICHAEL JACKSON has ended his self-imposed exile and set up a new home in America - 19 months after he left following his acquittal on child molestation charges. The superstar has lived a mythical existence since departing the US, spending time in Bahrain, Japan, England and Ireland. Jackson returned to the US to attend JAMES BROWN's funeral earlier this month (JAN07) - and his spokeswoman RAYMONE K BAIN has confirmed the star is sticking around and planning a comeback. In a conference call with Jackson, Bain said, "I can confirm that he is in the United States. We don't give out information regarding our client's whereabouts because of safety, and this is just an ongoing policy." The singer also revealed plans to begin his music comeback at two fan appreciation events in Tokyo, Japan. He said, "My friends and fans in Japan have been so supportive of me and my family for many, many years. My fans in Japan helped me achieve historic milestones in the music industry."

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... us_1020202 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-returns-to-us_1020202)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: heartphantom on May 13, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
*reminder
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on May 13, 2011, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: "Do"
Michael could have changed his mind. But on the other hand, why start all this and don't finish it??

That's it right there. If anyone has any doubts at all, just read this and think about it.

This is his life's work. This is Thriller II.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: 50th_State_Believer2 on May 14, 2011, 12:48:19 AM
I've come to a point where I will always have hope. Sometimes things don't go as planned, no matter how well you plan it - if we could all have total control of fate, then the word fate would not exist. It would simply be control.  I have hope that there will be some big ground breaking news about Michael this summer. Whether or not he is actually going to reveal himself in person, I don't know...but I have hope. But that hope will not be shattered if he does not show up in person to the world...maybe things have to be shifted, like how when Chess is played - the strategy has to be sometimes recalculated and new plans have to be immediately realized...for the final outcome to surface. I am very hopeful! Yet I will not be shot down should it not happen the way we want the time we want!! beerchug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: sunburst on May 14, 2011, 01:06:18 AM
if there's a poll for this one, i'd vote YES. MJ said history books lie. he wouldn't add to that lie, methinks. he'll set it straight - for the record...and make sure his biography is written factually, for a change.  plus, if he merely wanted a private life, there are much simpler ways of going. of course they won't generate as much hoopla as the method he used, but i think the truths can only be told in this context - when he comes back.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: For All Time on May 14, 2011, 02:31:48 AM
Of course i believe in his return.....he has to come back because if he doesn't all this will not make any sense to me and will prove that he is really gone .This is how I feel , Michael is coming back if he is alive....his plans are bigger than we could imagine, he's such an intelligent man, he wont let us like this , never ! I have my doubts and fears, we went thru so much in this 2 years..OMG it has been so long.I love Michael and i miss him so much .
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MashMike on May 14, 2011, 03:07:29 AM
I will too, i'm sure that he is alive but not that sure about his comeback. Still deep in my heart i hope that he will come back one day and shock the world!that will be the happiest day of my life!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: 50th_State_Believer2 on June 11, 2011, 01:54:40 AM
The theory I cannot believe is that Michael is still alive but will not return, and will choose living a solidary, quiet life hidden away forever. He can't do that because it goes against his entire grain of who he is. I even don't believe he would anonymously be directing creative projects withouth anyone knowing it is his work. He needs to be working on his ideas and expressing all his feelings, through venues where he cannot remain anonymous. He's not one of those types that can just be content with anonymous success. He needs and loves to connect with the people, his fans, the world, and that to him can't exist on a one way path.  party/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: 50th_State_Believer2 on June 11, 2011, 01:56:19 AM
Oh goodie - I just realized I have automatically turned from Newbie to Believer!! woo woo...lol...
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Pippi Longstocking on June 17, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
I would still believe that he’s alive. A lot of people seem to think Michael will come back in July. I hope they’re right, though I’m not sure if we can predict the comeback date. All I know is that he isn’t going to come back until he’s 100 percent ready. The BAM-Day will rewrite HIStory.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: blankie on June 17, 2011, 05:21:57 PM
Michael is always with us  ... often send little  messages and  when he decide  will come back ..Michael  know that we are here waiting for!    bearhug  Patience ..Keeph the faith !!!   mj_dance/






 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: loma on June 17, 2011, 11:03:15 PM
Quote from: "allforlove"
Quote from: "Steph22"
omg, thank you so much for this video allforlove. I think I just fell in love with him all over again  :oops: His smile, his laughter, his whole attitude. *sigh*
Hi steph22, just for you this pic, so you can keep on watching him. bearhug
(https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhttp%26%2358%3B%2F%2Fi827%26%2346%3Bphotobucket%26%2346%3Bcom%2Falbums%2Fzz198%2FHannahButterfly%2Fmjgifs145%26%2346%3Bgif&hash=d7ed8148766d5948ccf4cc27a90395d5)
Oh gosh  :D I was listenng to TLIML and I saw this and just started sobbing.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MadneZ on June 25, 2011, 09:22:24 AM
If he wont return by the latest the last day in July 2011 I am dropping everything Michael Jackson hoax and moving on, wishing him a peaceful happy wonderful life wherever he is!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on June 25, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
Quote from: "MadneZ"
If he wont return by the latest the last day in July 2011 I am dropping everything Michael Jackson hoax and moving on, wishing him a peaceful happy wonderful life wherever he is!

Why should he return in July? Just because a member said so does not mean that it will happen.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on June 26, 2011, 05:39:54 AM
michael-jackson/ I will never give up the hope that he is alive and if he doesnt come back in july maybe he wont come back but i will never lose faith in  him.

I want him to come back but if he doesnt that will be ok i suppose i will still love him anyways.

But then again if he doesnt come back in july maybe it just means he isnt ready to return. There will be other opportunities and maybe even better ones. But as i stated somewhere else on the  forum i belive in mj's ability to surprise us maybe he will come when we least expect it.

I love you mj and i belive in you no matter what.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Grace on June 26, 2011, 05:59:44 AM
I firmly believe that Michael NEVER LEFT.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: CC on June 26, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: "MashMike"
I will too, i'm sure that he is alive but not that sure about his comeback. Still deep in my heart i hope that he will come back one day and shock the world!that will be the happiest day of my life!

Quote from: "Grace"
I firmly believe that Michael NEVER LEFT.

[glow=red:1i4p3hr3]this is exactly how I feel... what ever he choose to do is fine with me, I know that he is alive, I don´t need more proves... all that happened since june 25 2009 is NOT COINCIDENCE![/glow:1i4p3hr3]
THE COINCIDENCES ARE THE WAY GOD REMAINS ANONYMOUS~EINSTEIN
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on June 27, 2011, 07:20:13 AM
michael-jackson/ Michael is special to me and I will be behind him and back him up whether he comes back or not.
To me personally I think he wants to come back he was always so happy or at his happiest when he was performing.

He will come back when he's ready. We just need to be patient with him.
He needs this time to himself without hassles from the media to be in peace.

God bless you Michael I will always love you and whatever happens I'll be there.
Xoxox
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: black_orchid on June 27, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
Hopefully, he comes back in July but IDK...I'm getting kinda somber during this time.


But I gots to keep the faith!!!!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: SoundOfCrescendo on June 27, 2011, 06:06:14 PM
Shoot, I'll be 90 still waiting for him to make a comeback. :lol:
What better shock would it be to comeback 73 years later, still alive at 100-something and having pulled off the greatest hoax of all time?
I honestly do think he's coming back, and I feel like it will be soon, and I can already picture how it's going to happen...
Nonetheless, if he doesn't come back this year, I'll simply wait, like we've done the past 2 years... I'm pretty sure I'm patient enough... :lol:
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: momo on July 09, 2011, 04:09:04 AM
maybe the piece "waiting for godot" must be rewritten...

Mike is alive - I dont doubt it.
Has Mike promised to comeback? I doubt
Do we have a lot of clues? YES we do
Do we need wake up persons? Yes , but the amount of followeres  and believers is not growing
Will he be able to create a change in human mankind? No, not without a bam! In small parts yes

Why does he not unite all persons and allows trolls and foolers around?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: use_your_illusion on July 09, 2011, 05:08:30 AM
Quote from: "momo"
maybe the piece "waiting for godot" must be rewritten...

Mike is alive - I dont doubt it.
Has Mike promised to comeback? I doubt
Do we have a lot of clues? YES we do
Do we need wake up persons? Yes , but the amount of followeres  and believers is not growing
Will he be able to create a change in human mankind? No, not without a bam! In small parts yes

Why does he not unite all persons and allows trolls and foolers around?

Good question about the trolls, well I guess it's because MJ can't control everything, just the same as anyone can't control what people post on here or people's opinions...MJ knows that the truth will prevail, so if these fakers say something like MJ is coming back today or tomorrow or assume to be in the know, eventually we will find out if they are or not, it's like a vicious cycle...it's the same as every troll, a pattern.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: momo on July 09, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
@use_your_illusion

Michael wont be able to control it. But Michael can clearly setup some clues and fullfill it - then there is no doubt around if some trolls try to have a piece of the cake. action from mike is needed!! Not from trolls and foolers. Thats the big friggin difference. Or does it make sense to have an ongoing hoax and no one is around waiting on it?
So in between I would like to know the statistics and their development on the last 2 years of this hoax site here....
The trend should be clear..
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: JentleTouch on July 10, 2011, 01:33:41 AM
I am absolutely certain he will come back.

 mj_bad/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: elocin_mj on July 10, 2011, 01:47:01 AM
I still believe in Michael...i will wait for him no matter how long it takes... :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diana9161 on July 10, 2011, 02:47:34 AM
If he doesn't come back this July, he probably has another date in mind. I believe that he's alive, and I will wait for him until he feels it's the right time for a comeback.  :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 10, 2011, 03:42:32 AM
I am not sure Michael is alive but if he is  - I am sure he will be back.
If what TS is saying is true - then Michael's comeback would be for him somehow similar with Jesus' crucifixion because Michael can only PROVE his points by coming back, but this would be teribble for him because some part of the media would tear him apart....so, just like Jesus....Jesus knew He was going to be crucified, but He knew that was His destiny and when the time came He didn't hesitate.
Maybe the so-much-waited BAM would be the day of the greatest joy for us but the beginning of the real battle for Michael :(
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 10, 2011, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I am not sure Michael is alive but if he is  - I am sure he will be back.
If what TS is saying is true - then Michael's comeback would be for him somehow similar with Jesus' crucifixion because Michael can only PROVE his points by coming back, but this would be teribble for him because some part of the media would tear him apart....so, just like Jesus....Jesus knew He was going to be crucified, but He knew that was His destiny and when the time came He didn't hesitate.
Maybe the so-much-waited BAM would be the day of the greatest joy for us but the beginning of the real battle for Michael :(

Gina, TS has opinions as we all do. Why to follow what he has to say? What do YOU really believe? at the end, what matters is what you and only you believe and think.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 10, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
I know Gema, you are right.
Quote from: "Gema"
Gina, TS has opinions as we all do. Why to follow what he has to say? What do YOU really believe? at the end, what matters is what you and only you believe and think.

Yes. I'll skip the fact that my faith in the hoax has dropped below the critical point.
I think Michael did it to shock the world and out of ANGER because he was misstreated by media and by some people, so he combined these with his intention of making a special kind of movies and  here we have the faked death with multiple goals, none of them very clear, and with our lives completely changed.

But to TS is more, it is about the end of the world and 2012 and about Michael's role in this. I am not ready to dismiss this possibility because I see Michael as a saint and I have moments when I believe he was/is a virgin till the end due to religious considerations. I also see him as a kind of a saviour or modern prophet or something, so I can't argue with TS about Michael's possible role in "saving the world".

Well I guess it's not OK to worship a human being like I do with Michael sometimes but I FEEL this way and I FEEL it's a sin to not respect him like I respect some very wise people of the churh or some saints. It would help a lot if he wouldn't be so damn sexy.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: RK on July 10, 2011, 01:18:45 PM
MJ's return? Yes, I fully expect it.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 11, 2011, 10:12:32 AM
What would mean "his" return to you all?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 11, 2011, 02:18:52 PM
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on July 11, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
I still believe in his return but to me it is not going to happen soon. Probably in 2014. He can catch his perfect
7 7 7 in 2014. That's not the only reason why I believe he will return then. The trials need to end first. Katherine's too. And those will take 2 years at least. But time will show for sure.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 12, 2011, 03:37:53 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
I still believe in his return but to me it is not going to happen soon. Probably in 2014. He can catch his perfect
7 7 7 in 2014. That's not the only reason why I believe he will return then. The trials need to end first. Katherine's too. And those will take 2 years at least. But time will show for sure.


I think he will be back in 2012, Some trials take less then 2 yrs.. I think this trial will go up to 2012 and then Michael will come back.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: curls on July 12, 2011, 03:49:42 AM
I used to think his return was dependant on the trial timing, but now I'm not so sure. In fact, I'm not even sure the trial will ever take place or if indeed, much like the O2 concerts,  it was ever meant to. It can be thrown out of court for any number of reasons.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diana9161 on July 12, 2011, 08:35:33 AM
Quote from: "curls"
I used to think his return was dependant on the trial timing, but now I'm not so sure. In fact, I'm not even sure the trial will ever take place or if indeed, much like the O2 concerts,  it was ever meant to. It can be thrown out of court for any number of reasons.

I have been thinking about that too. They keep complaining they've no evidence against Murray. What are they going to show in court then? I really don't know what to say about this. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens next.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 12, 2011, 10:36:43 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 12, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
You really think the fan world would be angry?

Why they placed the BAM in TII? Who's mind was so sick to do that knowing he was dead crash/ ?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 12, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
You really think the fan world would be angry?

Why they placed the BAM in TII? Who's mind was so sick to do that knowing he was dead crash/ ?

Michael said BAM and then people have been interpretating that BAM as they wanted it to mean. Bam could mean nothing or everything. In any case, the people behind TII have been using all sides to make money from believers to mourning fans.

Meanwhile people were concentrating in BAM dates many other things has happened regarding MJ and his legal and economical affairs. Attention and interest proyected towards our own needs of being proven right is what has lead us this far. We need to prove the world that what we believe is right=MJ is alive but the only ones who care about that is just us :| and while this is happening, people is laughing and being amused seeing how far we can go waiting for a BAM...meantime others intentions are just to profit from our "desperation".
What´s positive in this so called waiting, guessing and hoping for a BAM?
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on July 12, 2011, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diggyon on July 13, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on July 13, 2011, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

Only God knows diggyon. I have no clue about the future but as I believe this is a part of God's Plan I find comfort in knowing that He is in full control. So it can only go according to His will and to His will I surrender. And yes God has mercy of our souls because before things get better they must go bad it seems, very bad. God bless you diggyon and don't worry, just put your trust in God.  ;)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diggyon on July 14, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

Only God knows diggyon. I have no clue about the future but as I believe this is a part of God's Plan I find comfort in knowing that He is in full control. So it can only go according to His will and to His will I surrender. And yes God has mercy of our souls because before things get better they must go bad it seems, very bad. God bless you diggyon and don't worry, just put your trust in God.  ;)
I do trust in God and I know that the end of the world might be near!!!!! I think the holy books describe these disasters in details........ When people in here become sad because Michael didn't come back yet I just tell myself ok.....we still have some time ..... I always relate MJ's return to some kind of battle but I never figured out what kind of battle that will be!!! So how come MJ comes back and the people just don't judge him for his disappearance unless they are completely distracted with something else..... and what makes a person forgets every thing around him???? A tragedy or a disaster........ Sometimes I wish I am wrong...... and according to TS those who are willing to sacrifice their lives and support the Jackson family should tweet that to Jermaine's twitter account. So somehow it is getting serious know.... May God have mercy on our souls..... Amen
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: goat on July 14, 2011, 10:55:22 AM
I agree with those that believe that he will only return after the court cases and legalities have been ironed out.The conrad murray trial has to take place in some shape or form whether it is a farce or not.The world has to be told whether or not this man is guilty of killing the king of pop,to the majority of the worlds population the media speaks the truth although many of us know different.Even those in the media know the evils that remain hidden to the naked eye but doing something about it presents many dangers.Every action has a consequence.The world has always been through many trials and tribulations and will continue to do so but in my opinion we are not going to witness the end of the world in the near future.However,the world as we see it now will end but not in literal terms.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on July 14, 2011, 11:28:43 AM
Yes i am not giving up ever
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on July 14, 2011, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

Only God knows diggyon. I have no clue about the future but as I believe this is a part of God's Plan I find comfort in knowing that He is in full control. So it can only go according to His will and to His will I surrender. And yes God has mercy of our souls because before things get better they must go bad it seems, very bad. God bless you diggyon and don't worry, just put your trust in God.  ;)

I do trust in God and I know that the end of the world might be near!!!!! I think the holy books describe these disasters in details........ When people in here become sad because Michael didn't come back yet I just tell myself ok.....we still have some time ..... I always relate MJ's return to some kind of battle but I never figured out what kind of battle that will be!!! So how come MJ comes back and the people just don't judge him for his disappearance unless they are completely distracted with something else..... and what makes a person forgets every thing around him???? A tragedy or a disaster........ Sometimes I wish I am wrong...... and according to TS those who are willing to sacrifice their lives and support the Jackson family should tweet that to Jermaine's twitter account. So somehow it is getting serious know.... May God have mercy on our souls..... Amen

I think too that this is serious matter....maybe that yes an important thing will have happened before Michael comes back, like something permitting him to come more safely (paving the way so to speak) and still giving him the world's attention. Maybe the people will just understand when all will be explained, we don't even know ourselves ALL the reasons of the Hoax, it's not over yet and as time passes we will know more. I'm sure that we will know when it's going to happen because Michael wants our attention, he wouldn't want us to miss that exceptional day. The big surprise is not WHEN in my view, it is more about HOW and WHERE? I don't have the answers. But hey what do I say, the when will still be a big surprise. :lol:

Of course there is still the Hoax scenario going on and about the trial I don't know what to think of it, in the sense that I see no point in a trial when we know that Michael is alive. How can it even take place? It must serve another purpose than just finding Murray innocent because this trial could be canceled just with Michael's reappearance. So my understanding is that the trial is like a "scarecrow"...a diversion...something used to gain time for other important issues to come to a conclusion. It is not important in itself as Michael IS alive. Of course there is this parallel with Michael's 2005 trial and the fact that even though he was innocent a trial took place with fabricated evidence and false testimonies. But I think that it's gone far enough to already prove a point, and the media have proven by themselves how stupid they are and the agenda they follow. I don't know how it's going to evolve. We can just wait and see.

I do believe in the end of the world, though what is coming is (imo) not THE END (the one that is followed by Judgment Day) ... it is about something else, the end of THIS world (as we know it).  My belief is that God will intervene because the dark side is on the brink of taking over the world. But the past civilizations' fate teaches us that this has never been allowed to happen because God intervenes directly to prevent it. And I'm not saying that God doesn't intervene in our world everyday but there is that thing called "free will" allowing the people to choose between good and evil...and some have obviously chosen the bad side.

I think that choosing a side is important, staying on the fence isn't rewarded...but it's always upon God's decision of course. One has to make a choice at a certain point in his/her life to access a higher rank; so yes there will maybe (or should I say most probably  errrr ) be disasters and turmoil before Peace and this New Earth...and it's happening already. In the Bible book of revelations it is clearly stated that Satan will be "imprisoned" for a long period of time and released just before the real end of the world (at least this is what I understand). So what's coming is a Golden Age with a New Earth (including a new state of consciousness, a higher level). The earth will be cleansed from all evil before this Golden Age can take place, therefore it's very probable that it is not going to happen peacefully. The dark side will not just "keep watching" unfortunately and Satan will lead his followers more into deception. Most people are asleep to the Truth, most people don't believe in God, higher virtues do not mean anything anymore, people are blinded by the materials of this world, etc., etc.....so God will wake them up until they see and are forced to recognize who their true God is. We have come to that point because it has gone too far. That's the only reason for it to happen. It all has got to do with Faith in God, imo.

About what TS has asked us to do...he didn't asked us to sacrifice our lives,  but instead to have the courage of our opinions and beliefs despite the risks it includes and only if we want to, we are not obliged to do it. Now I think that some people don't realize yet that we're all involved in this, we all live on planet earth, there is no escape for what is to come. In my understanding we have to make a firm and clear choice between good and evil, God and the devil? Which camp do we choose? The conditions for us to finally decide and choose will present themselves over and over, harder and harder, especially in these extraordinary times, until we get it or not. Not choosing is also a choice. But at one point it will be too late because we don't live forever, so we better understand and think about it while we still can. It's time for the Truth, the real one, the truth about everything. Sometimes I feel like we have no clue as to what is the extent of what has been twisted in this world...so only God's intervention can help us make the necessary changes... and us choosing to go along with that change or not is what's at stake because there is no stopping what's coming. We are a part of that change. This is of course just my opinion and beliefs, I'm not saying it's the truth, I don't know anything for sure and I'm always willing to learn .... and at the end of the day I'm just asking God to guide me in all this...I cannot be wrong by doing so. Perseverance despite adversity is key.

Sura 58 - The Debate
[58:10] Secret conspiracy is the devil's idea, through which he seeks to hurt those who believed. However, he cannot hurt them against GOD's will. In GOD the believers shall trust.

Because God is the Best Schemer and this Hoax seems to be part of The Plan.  ;)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 14, 2011, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

Only God knows diggyon. I have no clue about the future but as I believe this is a part of God's Plan I find comfort in knowing that He is in full control. So it can only go according to His will and to His will I surrender. And yes God has mercy of our souls because before things get better they must go bad it seems, very bad. God bless you diggyon and don't worry, just put your trust in God.  ;)

I do trust in God and I know that the end of the world might be near!!!!! I think the holy books describe these disasters in details........ When people in here become sad because Michael didn't come back yet I just tell myself ok.....we still have some time ..... I always relate MJ's return to some kind of battle but I never figured out what kind of battle that will be!!! So how come MJ comes back and the people just don't judge him for his disappearance unless they are completely distracted with something else..... and what makes a person forgets every thing around him???? A tragedy or a disaster........ Sometimes I wish I am wrong...... and according to TS those who are willing to sacrifice their lives and support the Jackson family should tweet that to Jermaine's twitter account. So somehow it is getting serious know.... May God have mercy on our souls..... Amen

I think too that this is serious matter....maybe that yes an important thing will have happened before Michael comes back, like something permitting him to come more safely (paving the way so to speak) and still giving him the world's attention. Maybe the people will just understand when all will be explained, we don't even know ourselves ALL the reasons of the Hoax, it's not over yet and as time passes we will know more. I'm sure that we will know when it's going to happen because Michael wants our attention, he wouldn't want us to miss that exceptional day. The big surprise is not WHEN in my view, it is more about HOW and WHERE? I don't have the answers. But hey what do I say, the when will still be a big surprise. :lol:

Of course there is still the Hoax scenario going on and about the trial I don't know what to think of it, in the sense that I see no point in a trial when we know that Michael is alive. How can it even take place? It must serve another purpose than just finding Murray innocent because this trial could be canceled just with Michael's reappearance. So my understanding is that the trial is like a "scarecrow"...a diversion...something used to gain time for other important issues to come to a conclusion. It is not important in itself as Michael IS alive. Of course there is this parallel with Michael's 2005 trial and the fact that even though he was innocent a trial took place with fabricated evidence and false testimonies. But I think that it's gone far enough to already prove a point, and the media have proven by themselves how stupid they are and the agenda they follow. I don't know how it's going to evolve. We can just wait and see.

I do believe in the end of the world, though what is coming is (imo) not THE END (the one that is followed by Judgment Day) ... it is about something else, the end of THIS world (as we know it).  My belief is that God will intervene because the dark side is on the brink of taking over the world. But the past civilizations' fate teaches us that this has never been allowed to happen because God intervenes directly to prevent it. And I'm not saying that God doesn't intervene in our world everyday but there is that thing called "free will" allowing the people to choose between good and evil...and some have obviously chosen the bad side.

I think that choosing a side is important, staying on the fence isn't rewarded...but it's always upon God's decision of course. One has to make a choice at a certain point in his/her life to access a higher rank; so yes there will maybe (or should I say most probably  errrr ) be disasters and turmoil before Peace and this New Earth...and it's happening already. In the Bible book of revelations it is clearly stated that Satan will be "imprisoned" for a long period of time and released just before the real end of the world (at least this is what I understand). So what's coming is a Golden Age with a New Earth (including a new state of consciousness, a higher level). The earth will be cleansed from all evil before this Golden Age can take place, therefore it's very probable that it is not going to happen peacefully. The dark side will not just "keep watching" unfortunately and Satan will lead his followers more into deception. Most people are asleep to the Truth, most people don't believe in God, higher virtues do not mean anything anymore, people are blinded by the materials of this world, etc., etc.....so God will wake them up until they see and are forced to recognize who their true God is. We have come to that point because it has gone too far. That's the only reason for it to happen. It all has got to do with Faith in God, imo.

About what TS has asked us to do...he didn't asked us to sacrifice our lives,  but instead to have the courage of our opinions and beliefs despite the risks it includes and only if we want to, we are not obliged to do it. Now I think that some people don't realize yet that we're all involved in this, we all live on planet earth, there is no escape for what is to come. In my understanding we have to make a firm and clear choice between good and evil, God and the devil? Which camp do we choose? The conditions for us to finally decide and choose will present themselves over and over, harder and harder, especially in these extraordinary times, until we get it or not. Not choosing is also a choice. But at one point it will be too late because we don't live forever, so we better understand and think about it while we still can. It's time for the Truth, the real one, the truth about everything. Sometimes I feel like we have no clue as to what is the extent of what has been twisted in this world...so only God's intervention can help us make the necessary changes... and us choosing to go along with that change or not is what's at stake because there is no stopping what's coming. We are a part of that change. This is of course just my opinion and beliefs, I'm not saying it's the truth, I don't know anything for sure and I'm always willing to learn .... and at the end of the day I'm just asking God to guide me in all this...I cannot be wrong by doing so. Perseverance despite adversity is key.

Sura 58 - The Debate
[58:10] Secret conspiracy is the devil's idea, through which he seeks to hurt those who believed. However, he cannot hurt them against GOD's will. In GOD the believers shall trust.

Because God is the Best Schemer and this Hoax seems to be part of The Plan.  ;)

Thank you Sarahli for your well written post.  

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Of course there is still the Hoax scenario going on and about the trial I don't know what to think of it, in the sense that I see no point in a trial when we know that Michael is alive. How can it even take place? It must serve another purpose than just finding Murray innocent because this trial could be canceled just with Michael's reappearance. So my understanding is that the trial is like a "scarecrow"...a diversion...something used to gain time for other important issues to come to a conclusion. It is not important in itself as Michael IS alive. Of course there is this parallel with Michael's 2005 trial and the fact that even though he was innocent a trial took place with fabricated evidence and false testimonies. But I think that it's gone far enough to already prove a point, and the media have proven by themselves how stupid they are and the agenda they follow. I don't know how it's going to evolve. We can just wait and see.
I agree with your point of view.

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Perseverance despite adversity is key.
So true!

I have faith too            bearhug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diggyon on July 14, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

Only God knows diggyon. I have no clue about the future but as I believe this is a part of God's Plan I find comfort in knowing that He is in full control. So it can only go according to His will and to His will I surrender. And yes God has mercy of our souls because before things get better they must go bad it seems, very bad. God bless you diggyon and don't worry, just put your trust in God.  ;)

I do trust in God and I know that the end of the world might be near!!!!! I think the holy books describe these disasters in details........ When people in here become sad because Michael didn't come back yet I just tell myself ok.....we still have some time ..... I always relate MJ's return to some kind of battle but I never figured out what kind of battle that will be!!! So how come MJ comes back and the people just don't judge him for his disappearance unless they are completely distracted with something else..... and what makes a person forgets every thing around him???? A tragedy or a disaster........ Sometimes I wish I am wrong...... and according to TS those who are willing to sacrifice their lives and support the Jackson family should tweet that to Jermaine's twitter account. So somehow it is getting serious know.... May God have mercy on our souls..... Amen

I think too that this is serious matter....maybe that yes an important thing will have happened before Michael comes back, like something permitting him to come more safely (paving the way so to speak) and still giving him the world's attention. Maybe the people will just understand when all will be explained, we don't even know ourselves ALL the reasons of the Hoax, it's not over yet and as time passes we will know more. I'm sure that we will know when it's going to happen because Michael wants our attention, he wouldn't want us to miss that exceptional day. The big surprise is not WHEN in my view, it is more about HOW and WHERE? I don't have the answers. But hey what do I say, the when will still be a big surprise. :lol:

Of course there is still the Hoax scenario going on and about the trial I don't know what to think of it, in the sense that I see no point in a trial when we know that Michael is alive. How can it even take place? It must serve another purpose than just finding Murray innocent because this trial could be canceled just with Michael's reappearance. So my understanding is that the trial is like a "scarecrow"...a diversion...something used to gain time for other important issues to come to a conclusion. It is not important in itself as Michael IS alive. Of course there is this parallel with Michael's 2005 trial and the fact that even though he was innocent a trial took place with fabricated evidence and false testimonies. But I think that it's gone far enough to already prove a point, and the media have proven by themselves how stupid they are and the agenda they follow. I don't know how it's going to evolve. We can just wait and see.

I do believe in the end of the world, though what is coming is (imo) not THE END (the one that is followed by Judgment Day) ... it is about something else, the end of THIS world (as we know it).  My belief is that God will intervene because the dark side is on the brink of taking over the world. But the past civilizations' fate teaches us that this has never been allowed to happen because God intervenes directly to prevent it. And I'm not saying that God doesn't intervene in our world everyday but there is that thing called "free will" allowing the people to choose between good and evil...and some have obviously chosen the bad side.

I think that choosing a side is important, staying on the fence isn't rewarded...but it's always upon God's decision of course. One has to make a choice at a certain point in his/her life to access a higher rank; so yes there will maybe (or should I say most probably  errrr ) be disasters and turmoil before Peace and this New Earth...and it's happening already. In the Bible book of revelations it is clearly stated that Satan will be "imprisoned" for a long period of time and released just before the real end of the world (at least this is what I understand). So what's coming is a Golden Age with a New Earth (including a new state of consciousness, a higher level). The earth will be cleansed from all evil before this Golden Age can take place, therefore it's very probable that it is not going to happen peacefully. The dark side will not just "keep watching" unfortunately and Satan will lead his followers more into deception. Most people are asleep to the Truth, most people don't believe in God, higher virtues do not mean anything anymore, people are blinded by the materials of this world, etc., etc.....so God will wake them up until they see and are forced to recognize who their true God is. We have come to that point because it has gone too far. That's the only reason for it to happen. It all has got to do with Faith in God, imo.

About what TS has asked us to do...he didn't asked us to sacrifice our lives,  but instead to have the courage of our opinions and beliefs despite the risks it includes and only if we want to, we are not obliged to do it. Now I think that some people don't realize yet that we're all involved in this, we all live on planet earth, there is no escape for what is to come. In my understanding we have to make a firm and clear choice between good and evil, God and the devil? Which camp do we choose? The conditions for us to finally decide and choose will present themselves over and over, harder and harder, especially in these extraordinary times, until we get it or not. Not choosing is also a choice. But at one point it will be too late because we don't live forever, so we better understand and think about it while we still can. It's time for the Truth, the real one, the truth about everything. Sometimes I feel like we have no clue as to what is the extent of what has been twisted in this world...so only God's intervention can help us make the necessary changes... and us choosing to go along with that change or not is what's at stake because there is no stopping what's coming. We are a part of that change. This is of course just my opinion and beliefs, I'm not saying it's the truth, I don't know anything for sure and I'm always willing to learn .... and at the end of the day I'm just asking God to guide me in all this...I cannot be wrong by doing so. Perseverance despite adversity is key.

Sura 58 - The Debate
[58:10] Secret conspiracy is the devil's idea, through which he seeks to hurt those who believed. However, he cannot hurt them against GOD's will. In GOD the believers shall trust.

Because God is the Best Schemer and this Hoax seems to be part of The Plan.  ;)
Great post, Sarahli! I totally agree with you. Those who choose the devil's side will never win because the devil is week compared to God, the Almighty.......
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on July 14, 2011, 08:24:19 PM
i will always hold out for his return..no matter the time, day, year...i just want him to be happy n safe..i believe 1000% he is alive from day one..never thought anything less..as long as souza keeps this site up and im alive i will always belive..i may need one of the largest screens so i can read and poster size keyboard to try and trype lol but as long as my health holds up and site open..i be here till the end..
huggs n faith n love to all
suzz
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 14, 2011, 08:30:40 PM
I have never felt anything that I wasn’t 100% sure of so strongly.  I believe Michael is alive. Last night I even dreamed that he called me to tell me on 7-25 to personally inform me that I was one of the lucky 4 winners of the Portrait Site letter campaign contest. LOL.  Talk about a wake-up call.  I woke exhilirated & had to figure it out.  That’s when it dawned on me that he said see you in July and those contest instructions formed a perfect 777.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MJonmind on July 15, 2011, 02:52:35 AM
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

That was a good question diggyon, and well written long response, Sarahli. And I for the most part agree with you both.
I feel things will greatly deteriorate on earth, and no one will be upset when he then returns. Someone mentioned the regular public and MJ fans that think he's dead, are laughing at us. Well, we live in a free world where people have all kinds of unique beliefs and theories about things and the future. But if MJ doesn't keep hoaxland alive with some occasional clues, TS-like challenges, happenings, slip-ups, etc., I'm afraid this site and others like it are going to fade into the sunset. Then the hope of his return will have to remain a glowing coal kept barely alive in our hearts while we focus more on our personal lives, until the day he surprises us all!
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on July 15, 2011, 03:08:47 AM
I will never ever give up on Michael. Even if he doesnt return i will always keep my head up because i know he's out there.
i say let him have his little bit of peace and quiet now, he will come back when he is good and ready. If i know MJ as well as i think he will find the courage and the strength to get back on his feet and moonwalk again.

It's all for love, L.O.V.E, love.
Love lives forever. :)[attachment=0:3iyl652t]imagesCALJKA1N.jpg[/attachment:3iyl652t]
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diggyon on July 15, 2011, 04:03:42 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

That was a good question diggyon, and well written long response, Sarahli. And I for the most part agree with you both.
I feel things will greatly deteriorate on earth, and no one will be upset when he then returns. Someone mentioned the regular public and MJ fans that think he's dead, are laughing at us. Well, we live in a free world where people have all kinds of unique beliefs and theories about things and the future. But if MJ doesn't keep hoaxland alive with some occasional clues, TS-like challenges, happenings, slip-ups, etc., I'm afraid this site and others like it are going to fade into the sunset. Then the hope of his return will have to remain a glowing coal kept barely alive in our hearts while we focus more on our personal lives, until the day he surprises us all!
We have nothing else left but wait ........ but how should we make this waiting time useful???? confused/
Trying to convince people that he is alive is really very difficult.... trying to fight the devil in each and every one is even more difficult.....Sometimes people isolate themselves to have the time to think things over.... now we have the time before the BAM..... but how can we make it useful????? What should we do in this phase????? Waiting and waiting and waiting isn't the answer..... we should do something...... so any clue :?:
Blessings
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: use_your_illusion on July 15, 2011, 07:37:34 AM
Your right Diggy...I guess we could educate ourselves and others and be prepared.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Sarahli on July 15, 2011, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Quote from: "diggyon"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.
You mean a disaster that will distract the people from thinking about anything else but to save their lives???????
Am I the only one in here who is really afraid of the BAM!!!!!!????????
God save us all..... Amen

That was a good question diggyon, and well written long response, Sarahli. And I for the most part agree with you both.
I feel things will greatly deteriorate on earth, and no one will be upset when he then returns. Someone mentioned the regular public and MJ fans that think he's dead, are laughing at us. Well, we live in a free world where people have all kinds of unique beliefs and theories about things and the future. But if MJ doesn't keep hoaxland alive with some occasional clues, TS-like challenges, happenings, slip-ups, etc., I'm afraid this site and others like it are going to fade into the sunset. Then the hope of his return will have to remain a glowing coal kept barely alive in our hearts while we focus more on our personal lives, until the day he surprises us all!
We have nothing else left but wait ........ but how should we make this waiting time useful???? confused/
Trying to convince people that he is alive is really very difficult.... trying to fight the devil in each and every one is even more difficult.....Sometimes people isolate themselves to have the time to think things over.... now we have the time before the BAM..... but how can we make it useful????? What should we do in this phase????? Waiting and waiting and waiting isn't the answer..... we should do something...... so any clue :?:
Blessings

I think that we will all agree to say that nobody is perfect. So time can be used to better ourselves  :D
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 16, 2011, 03:52:50 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Confirmation of freedom and a sort of victory over death.

I don´t think that he is coming back in flesh. If he does, I would be very surprised. I hope to be wrong.

Just imagine the reaction of people, fans and not fans. Believers are waiting for it and are "ready" for it, but the fan world would be angry.

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.

There is a lot of hate out there. The last days, have been active in trying to stop the hate that so called "artist" is promoting against Michael, he has 181.000  followers and most or all think like their idol. Sad in deed. Too much hate.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: _Anna_ on July 17, 2011, 03:17:20 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Sarahli"

Maybe that the circumstances in the world under which Michael is going to come back will make it less of a shock for all the people, that's why it's all about TIME. The right period, the right MOMENT. Hence the waiting.  :) It's all under God's control, have no fear my friends.

There is a lot of hate out there. The last days, have been active in trying to stop the hate that so called "artist" is promoting against Michael, he has 181.000  followers and most or all think like their idol. Sad in deed. Too much hate.
You talk about Nikki Sucks from Motley Crap? Don't worry, Motley Crap have a problem with everybody when they need to promote themselves and spill the s*it from their mouth. They're all drag queens, I wonder how they're not ashamed to open their mouths when they know they wouldn't stand tall in front of the ones they bash, face to face. Believe me. He wouldn't have the courage to say that to Michael face to face, he's a drag queen. I remember back in 1991 when the other drag queen from Motley Crap, Vince Neil, challenged Axl Rose to a fight "like men should do it". He didn't have the courage to tell him that face to face, just behind a TV screen. It was ridiculous. When Axl had a go on him telling him "He's like a power puff. Anywhere, anytime, I don't care" and Neil never showed up to face him. I mean you challenge Axl Rose? Be careful what you wish for! They're all a bunch of drag queens. Nikki Sucks is just the same. He wouldn't have the courage to even look Michael in the eyes.

Watch this and see. Vice DragQueen Neil vs Axl Rose

Love Axl

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Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MissG on July 17, 2011, 08:46:04 AM
Yes Anna. That hater went too far with his acussations and mockering. He even made a seance to reach MJ. For him and his sheeple the jokes were hylarious but not for MJ´s mourning fans.
He and his fans talk about freedom of speech but all they do is speech of hate which is different.

They were threatening very young MJ fans. How smart of them. Junkies should stay away from virtual networks.

"Nikki" is just spreading hate, but he somehow knows when to shut up. He deleted tweets he made regarding Jesus so I guess that soon or later he will need to retract for the things he said regarding Michael. The problem is that not all the MJ fans reacted, only a little porcentage.

This bassist has over 180000 followers and imo it is very important to stop his/ their hate speech against Michael Jackson and his supporters. Everybody is entitled to his opinion but this man is just using his fans to create a violent movement with racist undertones. He is destryoing with his hate speech all the work done during years to avoid bullying, racism and lack of tolerance.

He is covering up with "I am against pedophiles" but this is not the problem since we all are against that crime, the problem is that he is acussing Michael of being one which he is not.
The irony here is that Mr Sixx had sex (according to his own community) with underage girls and all his followers see that fact as a cool thing.

This man is portraying himself as a "lives saviour" selling his books and repeating over and over what a great person he is. Well, he needs to start behaving as such for others to believe it.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: traceys_home on July 23, 2011, 05:19:25 PM
He'll be back in one form or another.....just pay attention to the Cirque show. I saw the stage (actually it was a mini model) that Cirque will be using. All I will say, is that there will be a beautiful tree with a high stage behind it for the band. The acrobats will dance on the lower stage that the tree is on an they will also swing from the tree. That sounds nice, but this is what I found strange....a very narrow runway leads out away from the 2 main stages to a circlular stage just large enough for about one person. Jaime King and Greg Phillenganes both stated that it's gonna be like MJ is "there". This circle I mentioned is going to be where an image of  "MJ" will be. I'm not saying it's going to be him, as I do not know, but I hear you will swear to GOD that MJ is on that stage.

Cirque was here in LA fitting my relative and a few others who are musicians for this show and have toured with MJ before and he/she was telling me that when they did the fittings, they were wired up with some sort of 3D wires on their upper bodies. She/he said that even when they did the Bad Tour, it wasn't as top secret as what Cirque is doing now. They won't even know how the music will be played until the 1st day of rehearsals next month. I'll be at the opening in Montreal on October 3...can't wait.

Just watch Cirque, something spectacular is definitely going to happen.....I guarantee it!
 

;)




Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: use_your_illusion on July 24, 2011, 03:55:10 AM
He'll be back in one form or another.....just pay attention to the Cirque show. I saw the stage (actually it was a mini model) that Cirque will be using. All I will say, is that there will be a beautiful tree with a high stage behind it for the band. The acrobats will dance on the lower stage that the tree is on an they will also swing from the tree. That sounds nice, but this is what I found strange....a very narrow runway leads out away from the 2 main stages to a circlular stage just large enough for about one person. Jaime King and Greg Phillenganes both stated that it's gonna be like MJ is "there". This circle I mentioned is going to be where an image of  "MJ" will be. I'm not saying it's going to be him, as I do not know, but I hear you will swear to GOD that MJ is on that stage.

Cirque was here in LA fitting my relative and a few others who are musicians for this show and have toured with MJ before and he/she was telling me that when they did the fittings, they were wired up with some sort of 3D wires on their upper bodies. She/he said that even when they did the Bad Tour, it wasn't as top secret as what Cirque is doing now. They won't even know how the music will be played until the 1st day of rehearsals next month. I'll be at the opening in Montreal on October 3...can't wait.

Just watch Cirque, something spectacular is definitely going to happen.....I guarantee it!
 

;)

Thanks so much for the info Tracey
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on July 24, 2011, 11:18:56 AM
You know... it is curious that we have Cirque de Solie opening in October 2011... a circus... a modern version of the Greatest Show on Earth.

Especially with this new info that traceys generous shared with us... a small one person platform/stage? Is this like the cherry picker from TII, that scene that was made a big deal of... "Michael is back on the cherry picker... this is a great moment" or whatever that Kenny said in that scene. They made such a deal over that, seemed out of place or much to do about nothing in the movie.

Then to throw into all of that, a circus opening in October. October is like #2 big hoax month just after July.

I dunno. So many signs... so many hints... so many clues... the dots connect in so many ways.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: annieareyouokannie on August 02, 2011, 07:38:13 AM
If Conrad Murray is found guilty and sentenced, then I will know MJ must be gone. Michael would never let an innocent man go to jail.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on August 02, 2011, 12:27:01 PM
If Conrad Murray is found guilty and sentenced, then I will know MJ must be gone. Michael would never let an innocent man go to jail.
I wouldn't be so quick with the ultimatums. Nothing has been as it seems thus far, the verdict may be no different. It's not what I expect to happen but I'm prepared for just about anything. Michael may have a few more tricks up his sleeve before this is through.
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Post by: sandythyme on August 02, 2011, 02:20:15 PM
I still have hope, if you don't have hope you have nothing.  I agree with bec, anything is possible at this point.  So much has happened...twists and turns along the way.  Who knows if "Court" will even happen.  I have been searching for the principle dancers of TII ending contract date.  I know it's been discussed.  I can't seem to find it.  I thought the contracts ran out in october 2011.  Forgive me scorionchik where ever you are today, but this "tribute" concert would make the end of a pretty great movie.......and end of hoax.  This Cadiff Giant Hoax has my head spinning in a million directions.  MJ appears, dancers do their job and then their contracts end, hoax ends, court never happens.  All is right with the world.  There, that's my fantasy for today.  Forgive me, back to topic, yes I am still hopeful Michael will come back.  I have the greatest hope in this.  Take care, love to all bearhug penguin/
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 02, 2011, 04:53:54 PM
Michael Jackson. What an extraodinary man (OK when I say man I hesitate a little, like this word wasn't made to define him.)
 
 
 
If he never existed - could any of us imagine him the way he is/was?
 
I guess I should thank God for allowing me to live in the same century with Michael Jackson.
 
There are many days when I think he is physically dead, but there is no doubt in my mind that his spirit is very much alive and will always be.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: sandythyme on August 02, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
Gina we are all very lucky to have been born in the time of Michael.  I am very lucky as I am a year younger than he is, so I have been following him from the very beginning.  Once in a life time a person comes along with this much talent, grace, intellegence (I could go on...)and love for others and that is Michael Jackson.  We all have those days where we wonder is he really here?  Or are we left with his memory and spirit?  Don't loss hope Gina, Michael Jackson isn't dead, he's just missing.....For the time being,  Take care, Love to All bearhug
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Post by: MJLive2010 on August 02, 2011, 05:47:09 PM
I BELIEVE IN A COME BACK BUT I THINK IT WILL TAKE VERY LONG :(
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: ibelieveinmj on August 03, 2011, 02:03:56 AM
He'll be back in one form or another.....just pay attention to the Cirque show. I saw the stage (actually it was a mini model) that Cirque will be using. All I will say, is that there will be a beautiful tree with a high stage behind it for the band. The acrobats will dance on the lower stage that the tree is on an they will also swing from the tree. That sounds nice, but this is what I found strange....a very narrow runway leads out away from the 2 main stages to a circlular stage just large enough for about one person. Jaime King and Greg Phillenganes both stated that it's gonna be like MJ is "there". This circle I mentioned is going to be where an image of  "MJ" will be. I'm not saying it's going to be him, as I do not know, but I hear you will swear to GOD that MJ is on that stage.

Cirque was here in LA fitting my relative and a few others who are musicians for this show and have toured with MJ before and he/she was telling me that when they did the fittings, they were wired up with some sort of 3D wires on their upper bodies. She/he said that even when they did the Bad Tour, it wasn't as top secret as what Cirque is doing now. They won't even know how the music will be played until the 1st day of rehearsals next month. I'll be at the opening in Montreal on October 3...can't wait.

Just watch Cirque, something spectacular is definitely going to happen.....I guarantee it!
 

 ;)





bearhug
 
I have had that feeling for a very long time. 
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: jadz29858 on August 03, 2011, 07:02:40 AM
Waiting is the game and I think Michael will come back in his own time I think Michael had enough of people controling him and telling him what to do  before he disappeared, so let us believers not go down the same road. I personaly think that 2013 will be the year for Micheal, because of the connection to Cirque Du Soleil and it's permanent base in Las Vegas!!! Recent news on the show looks like the new Holograms technolgy will be put in place this got me thinking could this be a way to cover up the real reason for Michael to take part in the show? When and if he is ready!! I'm staying here with Michael to the end because "the best is yet to come,I promise you the best is yet to come" Micheal's own words.
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Post by: _Anna_ on August 03, 2011, 07:16:39 AM
Waiting is the game and I think Michael will come back in his own time I think Michael had enough of people controling him and telling him what to do  before he disappeared, so let us believers not go down the same road. I personaly think that 2013 will be the year for Micheal, because of the connection to Cirque Du Soleil and it's permanent base in Las Vegas!!! Recent news on the show looks like the new Holograms technolgy will be put in place this got me thinking could this be a way to cover up the real reason for Michael to take part in the show? When and if he is ready!! I'm staying here with Michael to the end because "the best is yet to come,I promise you the best is yet to come" Micheal's own words.

I do not want to sound harsh or anything but damn, get that cliche quote out of your mind. This is something that has been stressed out but from where did this come from? WHO is to say he was controlled or that he still si controlled? Or told what to do? Where's the proof? Did Michael ever looked like that? I am overfed with this. Who's to say it was or it is like this?  Just because "someone" once stated this, this doesn't make it true or factual. If there's something that Michael is NOT, that is controlled or told what to do. If there's something that Michael is good at, besides his music , that is for sure playing media on his fingers. He is the master of puppets and not the other way around.
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Post by: For All Time on August 03, 2011, 08:04:05 AM
I am not sure if Michael was that controlled by people around him....He is 2 smart and intelligent .I'm sure he wasn't that naive with so much experience .Maybe they all play their  parts very well right now to make us see a lot of things that we didn't see before.And about Neverland, that was his home, his stability and they took it away from him...those cruel people  :cry: Hope God is working is mysterious  ways and Michael and his children will have Neverland back soon .
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Post by: Chinbie on August 03, 2011, 08:24:31 AM
i will still wait mj's returning . i believe mj always shock all of us .
he will return when he is ready , anyway , i will just keep the faith! party/
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: jadz29858 on August 03, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
Sorry if I painted the wrong picture but I know that Michael is a genuis in what ever he did, and I know Michael knows who he can trust and who he can't.But I was just pointing out that maybe some of us can't wait and appear to make dates for Michael to come back.I am sure he knows whats going on and if we put out dates he might feel underpressure thats what I was trying to say. I know that Michael will do what he wants and if he feels that its too early then we just have to wait. I'll wait for the next 10 years if thats what it takes. But we can't be sure when but we can be sure of one thing Michael will be back.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 20, 2011, 12:24:44 AM
Hi there. I am new to this forum. I am a recently converted beLIEver. I only looked into MJ hoax a week ago. I habve been glued to the laptop watching you tube, reading facts, reading forums, looking at all the evidence presented by various hoax websites. some of the eye witness accounts of sightings are remarkable. the clues left my MJ in TII was a trail leading us to this 'theory' (in want of a better word) I feel its is amazing that only 7 days ago i thought that the king of pop was dead, I was a sheep, follower believer of media nonsense. Now I feel with every fibre in my body without a shadow of a doubt that it was a hoax designed by MJ to escape his troubled life. I guess why I am sharing this with you is for this reason. The TRUTH is not common place amongst most of MJ fas. Most people believe what they are told. The number of beLIEvers is growing. People are learning for the first time what you have all suspected since day dot. The numbers are gowing. Keep the faith alive so other people like me MJ fans who didnt know the truth, can learn about what happened. I put this post here as I know it must be hard for some beLIEvers who are slowly losing faith. Have faith he is alive. From what I have been reading, some people in this forum and also in other forums, are starting to loose faith when their 'dream date' of when he will return comes and goes without a come back... It doesnt matter how much time goes by since the MJ death 'stunt' the facts still remain. the clues are still there. the evidence doesnt change no matter how much time goes by.

if we put pressure on mj to return because we miss seeing him perform and want him in the limelight, how different are we than the people who tried to control him. i hate to say to but its selfish to expect him to come back after 2 years. even 5. possibly even 10. we loved him and he made our lives enjoyable and magical with his music. but in reality, this industry stole a good 40 + years of his life. He didnt get a life like you or I. He was a puppet in his childhood and then the media went on a 20 year witch hunt to constantly pain him. my point is it is going to take more than 2 years out of the spotlight for him to 'recover' and want to return, if at all. He was plagued by their BS for a long time. He is hurt and is recovering. If he has mental health problems, or drug issues, or health issues, or a simple desire to want to live normally, or true fear like something bigger (illuminati? Unsure if I believe that yet) is out to hurt him, then 2 years away is not going to cut it for rest / recovery to aid a comeback. Esp, if he WAS in danger. LaToya said he felt they were going to kill him. he was going to die.

Also, their may be MAJOR financial, insurance, fraud complications by him coming back too soon. (Not saying that he is committing fraud, but bet you all the money in the world that if he came back today, the media would throw that spin on it straight away and money hunters will be on the instant attack for him)


Dear friends. Do not be disappointed if he never comes back in the flesh. I'm not sure what he will do. I hope he does come back. But it might be a long time away. But we have to face the possibility that it may be never.

Perhaps all of his messages about coming back, in his own time, etc etc. Just mean coming back and being in the background.. Perhaps guiding and mentoring music / acting / directing careers of people close to him like paris, prince, orianthi, etc, etc

Perhaps all of his messages abt come back / return are abt him just living a normal life but in disguise. He might plan to live amongst us without us knowing until he really grows old and dies, in disguise...

Maybe he will be found not dead as an old man, living in peace out of the limelight in a castle in england in the forrest.
Perhaps a palace in the middle east, never to be found. Or paerhaps he will return tomorrow. Who knows.

Just dont lose hope that he is alive. That is the most important thing, that he is alive. Not, "when" he returns, as he may never. And if he never does, we have peace at heart knowing that we know he touched the world with his music, he is safe and happy for how he chose to bow out and we will respect that, that is what he wants and that is what he feels will make him at peace.

re: a comeback and legalities..

One interesting thing I was thinking of previously, is that it was the impersonator who promised 5 concerts not, MJ.... might be a loop hole for him legally...

The death cert being wrong name... He could easily com eback and say, well there you go, you assumes this was me. Dont you know I am NOT Michael joseph jackson, rather I am Michael Joe jackson.

Dont put pressue on him or upset yourself by thinking of specific dates. It will lead to constant heartbreak and then a lack of faith.

If a death hoax took years of planning and he IS planning to return. A return will also take years of planning to ensure legal, financial, family, friends, law, personal safety, mental health, stability, etc etc are all in goodd order before he / if he returns...
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: bec on September 20, 2011, 12:43:21 AM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 20, 2011, 01:41:41 AM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on September 20, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 20, 2011, 01:28:37 PM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)

Pure love. Thank you for the response. I understand exactly what you are saying. Re: This is it. Greatest show. Today just learned about 777. Obviously I am only discovering the truth. SO hard to sort out the truth from the trash. the real from the red herrings. Family giving mixed messages to hoax believers obviously to legitamise death.

my head hurts. too much information. so much on the net to sift thru. the hoax, reasons behind it are getting bigger and bigger the more i read. millions are fooled. michael, unwell, frail, haunted, scared. on the contrary, mj is a mastermind who will return for the gratest show on earth. i know this reply appears completely contrary to my previous post, but my eyes are gradually becoming opened more and more by the hour. reminds me of a scripture in the bible. slowly informaiton has to be taken in. i am new to BAM belief. in time the whole complexities will reveal, as i am dedicated to searching.

"I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. ... and the freedom to interpret and apply the scripture under spiritual illumination"  1 Corinthians.3:1-4


I am learning more and more abt mj every day, hour, minute. I just thank the lovely people behind this forum for allowing the truth to be reached. I have been on so many sites and have abandoned them all to call this place home. I feel the solid, consistent information, true fans are here. It has been hard with things i have seen and read at other hoax forums and tube. Im abandoning all that to keep focused here. I believe in this is it, the greatest show. the take over.

im so excited. i hope i dont miss it. im unsure how or in what manner he will come back. will i know. will i be oblivious. i dont want to miss out. i need to keep faith. my heart open. beLIEve and i know i wont miss the take over.

would love to see your videos. i have been aimlessly floating from one link to another on tube. if you have more pointed videos, then i trust your referral to them and would love to watch them. I'd prefer to watch info that is recommended by trusted people at this forum, rather than be misguided.
 
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: curls on September 20, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
@Australian MJ BeLIEver, don't forget to go to sleep sometime and look after that darling daughter of yours! We'll still be here - and you won't miss the Bam, I'm certain of that!  bearhug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 21, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)

@purelove. i had to go back and find this post from a few days ago. i have learned so much in the past few days and actually feel quite foolish about some of my earlier posts. the more i learn the more i feel it might be best to comment when i know the full story, or as much as i can learn... i am a beLIEver. that is for certain. a baby however in this hoax. i have much to learn. I just spent 10 hours watching the TIAI vids that souza kindly posted. I am just getting into the chewy parts of this... elvis.. 777... amongst other layers.

i apoligise for my initial comments, though you were not offended, or didnt say you were offended, i am offended at my initial ignorance and apologise for naivety. how i am just so happy that i am finaly learning the truth. i have always been someone who questioned 911. i speak of it in my family and get shot down in flames all the time! re: moon landing - i am a believer in a hoax 100%. i guess what i am trying to demonstrate by this comment, is that though this hoax / intention / pupose / reasons are so incredibly complex (the more i learn, the more complex its becoming) i am very open minded and the proof i am being presented i feel is solid and beLIEve, as i have been able to see proof re: other hoaxes and am a believer in them also, even though the regular person would say its absurd!

initially in 09, when it came to mj and his 'death' i was so emotionally broken that i never questioned. i just wallowed in grief and accepted. now i am learning the truth and want to see MJ fulfil this take over. i am just glad that with this siutaion i am not overridden by emotion anymore. I am seeing things clearly and logically based on the info presented. for two years i have been sad and greivign , when i should have been looking at clues and trusted that MJ would never leave. just with 911, moon landing and other hoaxes, i am 100% a beLIEver in this one - only more committed to this than any of the others.

helleluja for truth!



@Bec - you are absolutely right.... from two days ago til now, i know so much more.... and still havent scrathced the surface i am sure.
it will take me two years to catch up!!!! /scream/ perhaps i will actually catch up after BAM... lol Hope not....

I am putting in the hours. Really hard trying to strike a balance between everyday life and reseaching hoax.... but i am loving it. it's changed my life, honestly. just like mj.

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: voiceforthesilent on September 22, 2011, 04:26:35 PM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)

@purelove. i had to go back and find this post from a few days ago. i have learned so much in the past few days and actually feel quite foolish about some of my earlier posts. the more i learn the more i feel it might be best to comment when i know the full story, or as much as i can learn... i am a beLIEver. that is for certain. a baby however in this hoax. i have much to learn. I just spent 10 hours watching the TIAI vids that souza kindly posted. I am just getting into the chewy parts of this... elvis.. 777... amongst other layers.

i apoligise for my initial comments, though you were not offended, or didnt say you were offended, i am offended at my initial ignorance and apologise for naivety. how i am just so happy that i am finaly learning the truth. i have always been someone who questioned 911. i speak of it in my family and get shot down in flames all the time! re: moon landing - i am a believer in a hoax 100%. i guess what i am trying to demonstrate by this comment, is that though this hoax / intention / pupose / reasons are so incredibly complex (the more i learn, the more complex its becoming) i am very open minded and the proof i am being presented i feel is solid and beLIEve, as i have been able to see proof re: other hoaxes and am a believer in them also, even though the regular person would say its absurd!

initially in 09, when it came to mj and his 'death' i was so emotionally broken that i never questioned. i just wallowed in grief and accepted. now i am learning the truth and want to see MJ fulfil this take over. i am just glad that with this siutaion i am not overridden by emotion anymore. I am seeing things clearly and logically based on the info presented. for two years i have been sad and greivign , when i should have been looking at clues and trusted that MJ would never leave. just with 911, moon landing and other hoaxes, i am 100% a beLIEver in this one - only more committed to this than any of the others.

helleluja for truth!



@Bec - you are absolutely right.... from two days ago til now, i know so much more.... and still havent scrathced the surface i am sure.
it will take me two years to catch up!!!! /scream/ perhaps i will actually catch up after BAM... lol Hope not....

I am putting in the hours. Really hard trying to strike a balance between everyday life and reseaching hoax.... but i am loving it. it's changed my life, honestly. just like mj.

L.O.V.E

Hi - I wanted to officially welcome you to the forum :)

Personally, I don't mind seeing your posts because 1) they show that you are growing in your knowledge and understanding and 2) if you start to veer off the beaten track someone who's been around much longer can kindly lead you back in the right direction.

At the rate you are going I am concerned you might get burned out. This has happened to many a soul over this past 2+ years. They go 150% and get their family furious at them over the neglect of their duties and then they crash and burn. Please don't do that.  There is always something to read, watch, and learn. Make sure your family doesn't suffer - please???  bearhug


Okay - about Michael. PureLove and Bec are right.

This hoax will open your eyes for sure and you will not only see Michael differently but you will see other entertainers differently as you realize that the media has done to others what they did, and continue to do, to Michael. Michael is just the bigger target...as his family keeps reminding us. Michael knows this truth and is using it to his advantage.

One thing is for sure in my mind and I hope in yours - Michael is a master of illusion. He's the master of disguise. He was never a drug addict, never frail, never afraid, never broke. He's always been in control. He is a human being and has feelings. He has ailments like the rest of us. His nose isn't falling off and he doesn't bleach his skin. He didn't do anything even close to what he was accused of by those families who were set on making a quick dollar.  He isn't gay and he isn't out of touch with reality or life. He probably is more in touch with what's going on in this world than most human beings. He's a fabulous father and mentor and he's influenced more people in this world than probably any one outside of Jesus. He is the most recognizable person on this planet - think about that one for a while. That will blow your mind. LOL. In the midst of that fame and recognition he remained humble, knowing that he is an instrument of God. And that is what he's trying to do. He's not only trying to get his legacy restored to it's rightful place but he's trying to help and heal the world in the only way that he could do. People didn't listen to him when he was "alive" - he was too much of a distraction even for fans. But with him now behind the veil people are starting to hear his messages. They are in every song and every video and every picture.

God bless you. Keep the faith and know that BACK predicted these events years before they happened. And before BACK there was SOTT who indicated of future events. Michael told Teddy Riley that he was going to "shock the world". Coincidence? I think not. Hang on because "the best is yet to come". Spread the L.O.V.E. and be patient with those that aren't quite there in beLIEf.

Oh - and in the midst of learning about the man we never really knew, please do your part in spreading truth about Michael. Lovingly, of course. Help clear up the garbage of untruths on the net about Michael. There are many great projects going on that are geared to further Michael's message and also to help clear his name up once and for all.

Many hugs to you this beautiful day.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on September 28, 2011, 08:28:35 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: shamz on September 28, 2011, 08:35:49 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on September 28, 2011, 09:54:42 AM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)

@purelove. i had to go back and find this post from a few days ago. i have learned so much in the past few days and actually feel quite foolish about some of my earlier posts. the more i learn the more i feel it might be best to comment when i know the full story, or as much as i can learn... i am a beLIEver. that is for certain. a baby however in this hoax. i have much to learn. I just spent 10 hours watching the TIAI vids that souza kindly posted. I am just getting into the chewy parts of this... elvis.. 777... amongst other layers.

i apoligise for my initial comments, though you were not offended, or didnt say you were offended, i am offended at my initial ignorance and apologise for naivety. how i am just so happy that i am finaly learning the truth. i have always been someone who questioned 911. i speak of it in my family and get shot down in flames all the time! re: moon landing - i am a believer in a hoax 100%. i guess what i am trying to demonstrate by this comment, is that though this hoax / intention / pupose / reasons are so incredibly complex (the more i learn, the more complex its becoming) i am very open minded and the proof i am being presented i feel is solid and beLIEve, as i have been able to see proof re: other hoaxes and am a believer in them also, even though the regular person would say its absurd!

initially in 09, when it came to mj and his 'death' i was so emotionally broken that i never questioned. i just wallowed in grief and accepted. now i am learning the truth and want to see MJ fulfil this take over. i am just glad that with this siutaion i am not overridden by emotion anymore. I am seeing things clearly and logically based on the info presented. for two years i have been sad and greivign , when i should have been looking at clues and trusted that MJ would never leave. just with 911, moon landing and other hoaxes, i am 100% a beLIEver in this one - only more committed to this than any of the others.

helleluja for truth!

L.O.V.E

You are such a sweetheart. And no need to worry about your first posts on the forum. Like you wrote, you're learning more and more each day. Welcome to the family.  bearhug
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on September 28, 2011, 01:28:09 PM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug

I know the voice recording made me sick to my stomach literally and the photo was extremely hard to look at. Anyone with a heart should be deeply disturbed by this whether you are a fan or not. However that being said i have to keep on reminding myself that it isnt real
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 30, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
sometimes things need to get hard before they get better. there is no way mj is going to be able to bam, without some administrative issues being attended to first, such as this court case. keep the faith, its just a process. evidence for hoax and bam far outweighs the photos / courtcase, etc...

keep the faith baby
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: shamz on September 30, 2011, 07:46:45 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug

I know the voice recording made me sick to my stomach literally and the photo was extremely hard to look at. Anyone with a heart should be deeply disturbed by this whether you are a fan or not. However that being said i have to keep on reminding myself that it isnt real

i agree...we all gotta know that we shouldn't accept everything that we're told or shown, especially wen its BS xx
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: PureLove on September 30, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Guys, we're talking about Mr Prankster Jackson. Do you think that it is hard for Michael to talk the way he did in that voice recording? Put a pen under your tongue, and talk slowly, that's it. You can do the same. Remember that this is HUGE plan and it was planned for decades. The man is healthy and strong and he's pulling the strings. He's the puppetmaster, so no need to worry about the tape or the picture.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: diggyon on September 30, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Micheal will be back. I think we've been through this before. He will be back. You'll see. Just be patient.  /pull hair/
Blessings
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: magickal on October 05, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
Everything and anything is used as a clue, give it up all, he is not coming back, if alive he just wants to be left alone.

All this will evenutally wear off which is what he wants. Until this happens and everyone just keeps talking and talking , he will "stay away"
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: marisjm on October 05, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Everything and anything is used as a clue, give it up all, he is not coming back, if alive he just wants to be left alone.

All this will evenutally wear off which is what he wants. Until this happens and everyone just keeps talking and talking , he will "stay away"
I have to respectfully disagree with you.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: AThousandTimes on October 05, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
He will come back....
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: eternalflame on October 15, 2011, 05:25:05 AM
@voiceforthesilent, I just LOVE your post... /bravo/
it´s a wonderful summary of all I think about MJ.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is still with us.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is in good condition, recovering from all the s*** they´ve done to him, and enjoying his privacy he never had that way.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is watching all the things happening in this world, in his country and in the websites concerning him.
 
I´m NOT 100% convinced that he will come back that soon, or ever. It´s easier for him to act from behind the stage, at least for the next time.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: Thriller4ever on October 15, 2011, 05:57:52 AM
He's bathing in his own time...until then, we need to spread his message :)
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: willddoMJ on October 22, 2011, 05:05:15 AM
He's bathing in his own time...until then, we need to spread his message :)


Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: curls on October 22, 2011, 07:58:51 AM

Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.

You are probably right, statistically I would think that a real possibility - but personally, I feel that having him back will just show me how incredibly precious and special this man and his important message of love are. I actually can't begin to imagine how I'm going to feel when that day comes!  I actually can't get my head round the idea that the world (and me!) will get a second chance with this man, a second chance to treat him right and to listen and act with him to change the world.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: willddoMJ on October 22, 2011, 08:11:47 AM

Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.

You are probably right, statistically I would think that a real possibility - but personally, I feel that having him back will just show me how incredibly precious and special this man and his important message of love are. I actually can't begin to imagine how I'm going to feel when that day comes!  I actually can't get my head round the idea that the world (and me!) will get a second chance with this man, a second chance to treat him right and to listen and act with him to change the world.


I tend more of impacts it will have after he comes back, yes it will be great, but how will this impact on MJ, i'm working towards Age Care,  and i tend worry alot about the person, for this instance, MJ, the scenario of MJ comming back will inpact of millions of people, be in history, and have a world wide media awareness. Will be good have him back but i worry about impact it will have.
Title: Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on October 22, 2011, 11:21:09 AM
I think the persona of MJ the King of Pop was put to rest.  I can't imagine him coming back to do concerts again.  Plus so many people still think he is a child molester....how will he convince those people otherwise?  Just "coming back from the dead" won't change their minds.  Any thoughts?