Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => This Is It => Topic started by: hachiman on April 18, 2011, 05:57:37 PM

Title: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 18, 2011, 05:57:37 PM
(http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/0910/ac/6aac217d8246.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mumof3 on April 18, 2011, 06:00:06 PM
I have not seen that picture before thankyou for posting where did it come from are there anymore
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 18, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
It came from this link and I can tell you that link has 6 pages of UNSEEN pics from TII. I'd say alot.  :P Go straight from top to bottom.

http://www.mjjboard.com/movie/12099-off ... on%5D.html (http://www.mjjboard.com/movie/12099-official-photos-thread-%5Bno-discussion%5D.html)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 18, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
I think that link will be very useful.  :)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: fordtocarr on April 18, 2011, 06:30:37 PM
GREAT PICS!!  Thanks.  I wonder where these have been for almost 2 years?  I think, IMO they are almost all of Michael.  Two I wonder about.  But, BOY DOES HE LOOK HAPPY AND HEALTHY!!!!  Actually, better than in the movie.  I love these.  Thanks again.  More pics for my hard drive, lol.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mumof3 on April 18, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
Thankyou I had a  look and there are a lot I have not seen like smooth criminal  you are right he does look happy and well
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 18, 2011, 07:04:05 PM
They said he was frail weak, and I am the queen of England.  :lol:  What liars. He is an healthy man, good looking man,  these pictures proves to me that he did not die. This is all an illusion. Blessings.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: AnaMarcia on April 18, 2011, 07:17:08 PM
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: fordtocarr on April 18, 2011, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
They said he was frail weak, and I am the queen of England.  :lol:  What liars. He is an healthy man, good looking man,  these pictures proves to me that he did not die. This is all an illusion. Blessings.

In a couple of the pics, that, forgive me Michael if they ARE you, but a couple of them, his legs look WAYYYYYYY much thinner.  I bet these are the ones the Murray camp will run with.  Again, if this goes to trial.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: finfin on April 18, 2011, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: "hachiman"
It came from this link and I can tell you that link has 6 pages of UNSEEN pics from TII. I'd say alot. :P Go straight from top to bottom.

http://www.mjjboard.com/movie/12099-off ... on%5D.html (http://www.mjjboard.com/movie/12099-official-photos-thread-%5Bno-discussion%5D.html)
Thank you for posting this link @hachiman.
It is against my better judgement to say this, because I have very much been on the fence about it - BUT - I do not get an O2 guy vibe about any of these pics - yawn
 (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/37.gif)

but take a look at this pic of Michael - no resemblance at all, in my opinion - of course!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2n1uli8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mjj4ever777 on April 18, 2011, 08:17:19 PM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)

In this picture, Michael on stage doesn't match up with the Michael they show on the big screen in the background??? Weird... Also, I have seen these pics before, a long time ago, but don't remember where I saw them. Did we discuss them here before?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 18, 2011, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mjj4ever777 on April 18, 2011, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?


That's what I was saying in my post above Souza, LoL...guess I didn't word it right! :lol:  :lol: If they wanted us to think it was the same Michael, the least they could have done was make sure they had the pics "aligned" properly, don't ya think??  ;)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 18, 2011, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?


That's what I was saying in my post above Souza, LoL...guess I didn't word it right! :lol:  :lol: If they wanted us to think it was the same Michael, the least they could have done was make sure they had the pics "aligned" properly, don't ya think??  ;)

I noticed that too........what would be the purpose of having a different backdrop that doesn't match the original???  I thought it was to superimpose his image to the background...Different times maybe???
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Lovely One on April 18, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Oddly, the first pic that you posted as your thread opener, would be exactly how I would picture
MIchael to look now. SUPER SUPER healthy!  ;)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: AnaMarcia on April 19, 2011, 09:34:37 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

Yes, I realize. But what matters to me is that in the stage is Michael himself. He looks beautiful and healthy and that's what matters to disprove theories of disease! 8-)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Datroot on April 19, 2011, 12:08:15 PM
In the first pic, he looks a good few pounds heavier - if the pic was actually taken during the making of the film and not one taken a few years earlier and meant to make us think it was taken during TII.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 19, 2011, 12:24:20 PM
Is it possible that TII was made in 2006? http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042 (http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042)

You'll recognise the pic but look at the date.  :I
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: frogh777 on April 19, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
Quote from: "hachiman"
(http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/0910/ac/6aac217d8246.jpg)

look his legs... how can those be the same as these:
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/00027367.jpg
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 19, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
It's not always about the legs, but the kind of trousers he's wearing.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 19, 2011, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on April 19, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?
(http://s14.radikal.ru/i187/0910/93/dca9b11f6c86.jpg)
 :?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on April 19, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?
(http://s14.radikal.ru/i187/0910/93/dca9b11f6c86.jpg)
 :?
(http://i066.radikal.ru/0910/e0/5e9ce247a083.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 19, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/laramay86/mjtii44.jpg)

Screen in background?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt185/Amelinha/michael-jackson-04.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on April 19, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
These particular photos make me wonder allot... :(  (am i losing my mind?)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/laramay86/mjtii33.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/laramay86/mjtii1.jpg)
One looks like he's been through so many surgeries or sick and the other looks so skin-soft and healthy/young....i'm telling you all...my mind is lost or...hypnotized
The nails make me wonder also...some nails are grown longer than others..but the little finger has a different length in both pictures. (?)could be the angle...but....
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2011, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: hachiman on April 19, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
What about the way his head's angled?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on April 19, 2011, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: "hachiman"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
What about the way his head's angled?
What about his shirt one it's out of the pants one is inside the pants.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mumof3 on April 19, 2011, 04:50:11 PM
It all looks like Michael to me I just can't see the difference no offence to anyone I wish I could see what others see
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 19, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "hachiman"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
What about the way his head's angled?
What about his shirt one it's out of the pants one is inside the pants.

ok. 1.  Where is the 777 on the shirt as i cannot see it?  Mght be my old eyes...

2. His head is angled differently because there is a slight delay in the feed.

3.  His shirt isnt out of his pants in one....  its because his body is moving and angled slightly differently.

I beg to differ in the assertion that there "is no delay in modern technology" - because there is...  even if its just a second behind.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on April 19, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/yo0bc.jpg)
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1306/v8imw2.jpg) :shock: i never believed what some said here but now comparing a bit the photos i feel strange  :(  and stupid.
There was an article before he died (like many other articles no one cared about) that said that Michael cloned or thought of cloning himself
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: mumof3 on April 19, 2011, 05:08:33 PM
I can't see the 777 I think it's the light shining on him making the shirt sparkle
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2011, 05:26:01 PM
777 in the yellow circle. Just zoom it and you will see.

Also, in the purple circles: why don't the backgrounds match?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: wishingstar on April 19, 2011, 05:27:01 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I can't see the 777 I think it's the light shining on him making the shirt sparkle

Hey there....
It's my understanding that the 777 is on the red shirt....this shirt/jacket was talked about because of the Egyptian ankh on the shoulders.  I could be mistaken, but, that's what I remember.  Hope this helps......
Have a beautiful evening!
 
Blessings!
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2011, 05:31:58 PM
Here you can see the 777 clearly. It's not on the shirt of the MJ on stage in the previous picture:

(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Update%204/Update%204b/Red777Shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: wishingstar on April 19, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Yes, thank you Souza!  Much appreciated for posting the picture...thought that was the shirt in question.  

Have a beautiful evening.......
Blessings
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on April 19, 2011, 09:01:27 PM
I think I've seen all of these pics before.  It was awhile ago though.  Regarding the first picture where Michael is on stage wearing orange pants and the shin things, if my memory is serving me correctly, Karen Faye claims to have taken that pic.

Regarding the pics with the slightly different angles on the background screen, I too thought that it was a time delay to the screen.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 19, 2011, 09:44:13 PM
Thank you for showing this again. Sometimes it's good to review old information with fresh eyes and eyes that have more insight now. We were told by BACK that we need to look back in order to understand.

I agree with Souza - these are two different shirts. Not even looking at the missing 7's, look at what is visible in both shirts - the red button in the middle of his shirt. On one picture it's surrounded by red and the other picture it's brown. And it has nothing to do with lighting or delay.

Now - the one picture is what Souza posted and the other is the MJ in front (not on screen). My point is there are two different shirts.

If you look at the two MJ's on the same screen, looking only in the middle of his shirt, one has a different design than the other. So, are there two different shirts or three?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 19, 2011, 09:54:58 PM
and here is the MJ on screen and the MJ in front with only the middle of his shirt. To me they look like different patterns. One shirt seems to have more silver than the other. That is just my opinion. Blessings.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suspicious mind on April 19, 2011, 10:01:20 PM
thoughts on this one?
 also can someone clue me in on why this one would not copy to the post only the link?


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g40 ... 1303268305 (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g405/suspectprime/29bc4zd.jpg?t=1303268305)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 19, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
thoughts on this one?
 also can someone clue me in on why this one would not copy to the post only the link?




http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g40 ... 1303268305 (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g405/suspectprime/29bc4zd.jpg?t=1303268305)

Hi - I'm not sure but I can't see the picture with the link either. Can you copy the link without using the img button and I'll go in and resave it.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suspicious mind on April 20, 2011, 06:16:40 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
thoughts on this one?
 also can someone clue me in on why this one would not copy to the post only the link?




http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g40 ... 1303268305 (http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g405/suspectprime/29bc4zd.jpg?t=1303268305)

Hi - I'm not sure but I can't see the picture with the link either. Can you copy the link without using the img button and I'll go in and resave it.
maybe it will be easier just to go to the fourth page of the pics from the op's link . the poster was something Z. :oops:
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suspicious mind on April 20, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
i swear in these pics not one of these dudes seems to look like the other. what was goin on? :? question if someone faked the ambulance photo what is to keep them from faking these? what i mean is could the movie be one thing and the photos be set up after the fact to make it look there were doubles in the places where in fact michael was actually there originally?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: curls on April 20, 2011, 06:57:52 AM
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the 777 is on the 'MJ on stage' shirt. His jacket isn't open as wide as it is on the screen pic, so it's obscuring most of it but I can see the edge of the 7s, particulary the bottom one.

@voiceforthesilent, I don't think they are different shirts. On the big pic Souza posted, that red button is open, revealing more of the red material underneath. On the stage/screen pic, the button is done up, making the front of the shirt look different (more brown).

Now I do remember reading something ages ago about the 777s not always being on that shirt, but I really don't think these pictures are showing that.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2011, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: "curls"
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the 777 is on the 'MJ on stage' shirt. His jacket isn't open as wide as it is on the screen pic, so it's obscuring most of it but I can see the edge of the 7s, particulary the bottom one.

Could be. But that still doesn't explain the things I circled in purple:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12683)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2011, 07:15:42 AM
Besides that, I agree with the one who said that the MJ on screen has his shirt out of his pants a little.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: willddoMJ on April 20, 2011, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "curls"
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the 777 is on the 'MJ on stage' shirt. His jacket isn't open as wide as it is on the screen pic, so it's obscuring most of it but I can see the edge of the 7s, particulary the bottom one.

Could be. But that still doesn't explain the things I circled in purple:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12683)

what if the picture in background is shot from different view, of the side that is not shown of MJ on stage?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2011, 08:55:13 AM
Different angle or not, but the backgrounds don't match.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 20, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
Quote from: "curls"
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the 777 is on the 'MJ on stage' shirt. His jacket isn't open as wide as it is on the screen pic, so it's obscuring most of it but I can see the edge of the 7s, particulary the bottom one.

@voiceforthesilent, I don't think they are different shirts. On the big pic Souza posted, that red button is open, revealing more of the red material underneath. On the stage/screen pic, the button is done up, making the front of the shirt look different (more brown).

Now I do remember reading something ages ago about the 777s not always being on that shirt, but I really don't think these pictures are showing that.

I can see that it could be as you describe. I still think there are at least two different shirts. And we haven't been able to explain the background. "If" it's shown from different angles why would they bother putting one from each angle in the same frame? It's really baffling for sure.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: MissG on April 20, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
IMO, "our" Michael is the one in the screen.

Even if MJ had operations he still has his genes from his mom, dad and siblings plus the skull can´t be modified, even if he had chin implants that can make us see MJ differently, the skull reminds the same.
My way of ID MJ is by those facial expressions at times as well as similarities with Janet or LaToya, also his mom.

Could be that we are just very very worn out and can´t see right from left but MJ on the screen reminds me of MJ Bad era but a bit older.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on April 20, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
I saw all of those pictures before. The first one in this thread was done by Karen Faye as far as I remember?  
I also remember we once agreed some of them were photoshopped for the purpose of "TII" - the album booklet like the ones I enclose:
As to the shirt and the background - I don't know... It could have been "the day and the other day..."  :lol:
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: maninthemoon on April 20, 2011, 03:20:40 PM
But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042 (http://http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 23, 2011, 06:37:17 AM
There is no 777 on the shirt.

Ive looked and it isnt there.  The lighting is different on the screen behind him.  Look at MJs neck and you will see what i mean.  This is a photograph of MJ with a plasma screen behnd him.  The flash from the camera is going to bounce off a screen in a different way to how it will bounce off a person.  Different materials, you see.

Its the same MJ, on the same day.  There is a delay in the feedback and the photo is taken from a different angle to what the camera is recording from. (hence you see different background on the screen.  The recording camera is in a different place to where the picture camera is)

Of course modern technology has a delay, if even for a microsecond.   Even when you speak to someone on the telephone these days...  there is still a delay from the reverberations your voicebox makes, to it travelling down the line (or satellite), to reaching the eardrums of the other person.
Same with television.  It will never be instanious or as quick as a real live event witnessed in front of your very own eyes.
As technologically advanced as we are, human beings are still yet to create techonology as quick or as advanced as the human brain.

Thats just me using my own mind, but everyone is free to look objectively and decide for themselves.

Its the same MJ, same day.
With love.

(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Aintnosunshine on April 23, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: angranity
But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042 (http://http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042)

I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suspicious mind on April 23, 2011, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: Aintnosunshine
Quote from: angranity
But these pictures can be also from 2006 to 2008.

Judging by this article (which you should never forget) from 2006 with a picture of the TII Smooth Criminal MJ.

http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042 (http://http://www.absolutepictures.com/news.php?id=1042)

I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.



that is the way it felt in the theater like i wasn't sure if they were all him but the one's i felt sure of didn't all seem to be from the same time period. i have to say though when i watch at home i don't get the same feeling   :?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Billie_Jean13 on July 01, 2011, 11:56:13 PM
I can see whatn you mean the 2 pics both show completely different lifestyle outcomes it may just be different expressions on his face that change the way he looks but the fingernail does look shorter in the second pic.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Maia on July 03, 2011, 05:37:53 AM
in how many days were these pictures taken?
 in 90% of the pictures he is wearing the same black pants with the "white substance"  :shock:  on it.
 or the same red shirt.
 He was only 2 days at the rehearsal ?


For me personally he looks on the most pics  very stressed. and not happy.

sorry for my english
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: goat on July 03, 2011, 07:37:32 AM
While michael may appearto be vastly different in various pictures,none of us knows what he truly looks like.It could certainly be the case that doubles were used but is also possible that it is mj we see every time.The time and date of the rehearsals is also up for debate but yet again we dont know for sure.In my honest opinion mj did not look like a man suffering from years of drug abuse,let alone a man dependant on such drugs.They may have tried to strip him of his dignity,but they cannot touch his soul.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: MissG on July 06, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
I have no idea how MJ looks really, but in his last album "Michael" he looks like an older version of BAD era. Also Jermaine´s book used a pic from the 80´s.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: PureLove on July 11, 2011, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: "mjj4ever777"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?


That's what I was saying in my post above Souza, LoL...guess I didn't word it right! :lol:  :lol: If they wanted us to think it was the same Michael, the least they could have done was make sure they had the pics "aligned" properly, don't ya think??  ;)

That's the same Michael. The image goes a little bit late on the screen, that's the reason why the hands etc is not the same.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: PureLove on July 11, 2011, 05:52:49 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "hachiman"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)


LOL, didn't you notice the MJ on the screen behind the MJ on stage is someone else?

We've been through all of this before.  Im amazed issues keep coming back that were debunked over a year ago.
The image is different on the screen as there is a second or so delay in the feedback.


Debunked? No it's just an excuse. There is no delay with the modern technology, so that's bs. Debunk this: The one on the screen has the 777 added to his shirt, the one on stage hasn't.
What about the way his head's angled?
What about his shirt one it's out of the pants one is inside the pants.

ok. 1.  Where is the 777 on the shirt as i cannot see it?  Mght be my old eyes...

2. His head is angled differently because there is a slight delay in the feed.

3.  His shirt isnt out of his pants in one....  its because his body is moving and angled slightly differently.

I beg to differ in the assertion that there "is no delay in modern technology" - because there is...  even if its just a second behind.


Souza the delay is still the same with the modern technology. There's no 777 on his shirt at the BG. His jacket was a little bit more open and we see alittle bit more of the shiny stones on his shirt. I agree with what Miss.Peppers wrote.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: MsTrinity333 on July 11, 2011, 08:02:32 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Rottiestyl on July 18, 2011, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
This is my favorite.
Michael is a Wonderful man!!!
(http://www.omelete.com.br/images/galerias/this_is_it/michael_jackson%20%2812%29.jpg)

Did anyone notice the pic on the screen behind him has different movements than he does? like on the screen his hair is in his face but not as much on MJ on stage and the right hand is in a different place. On the screen his mouth is almost completely closed but MJ on stage has his mouth open. The whole upper body is leaning differently and the right collar is in a different place. Could be delay I guess, but looks strange. I am the family "editor" when we watch tv. I can pick out almost if not every editing flaw. I have always had a knack for paying attention to details and this hit me immediately.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: Rottiestyl on July 18, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
I just read the posts above. A second delay maybe so but how do you explain the hair on the right side of his face? On the screen it's much longer at least it appears to be. Could be a shadow but I don't think so.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: MsTrinity333 on July 19, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
Lighting, shadows, camera angle & delay.
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on July 19, 2011, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
777 in the yellow circle. Just zoom it and you will see.

Also, in the purple circles: why don't the backgrounds match?

have to agree with souza..
spoke to a friend that has knowledge of these sort of things lol..if your filming an object just like a concert what goes on stage thru the camera feed goes directly to the backdrop without a delay..what you see on stage appears as the same as on the background..now on tv with live feeds and fcc there is a what 20 sec delay due to cuzzing or other things that happen so its bleep out or not shown..anyways..even if you go to sony own video trailer about this is it..and go frame by frame you will notice alot of these so called shots that do not add up..even watch the movie if you have it frame by frame..if i had my notes i could tell you more and where to look..mouth open mouth closed..crease in shirt no crease..the 7's no sevens lol hand placement ...you get the idea.. lolol/  if i was better at putting pictures up here of the movie i would and i think its great were looking at the older stuff with fresh eyes again..sometimes im thankful for when it does get quite on here to go back and take a look at all that has been posted..sometimes we have to look back on information given to us to beable to move forward..jmo
huggs n love n faith to all
suzz bearhug
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on July 19, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
777 in the yellow circle. Just zoom it and you will see.

Also, in the purple circles: why don't the backgrounds match?

have to agree with souza..
spoke to a friend that has knowledge of these sort of things lol..if your filming an object just like a concert what goes on stage thru the camera feed goes directly to the backdrop without a delay..what you see on stage appears as the same as on the background..now on tv with live feeds and fcc there is a what 20 sec delay due to cuzzing or other things that happen so its bleep out or not shown..anyways..even if you go to sony own video trailer about this is it..and go frame by frame you will notice alot of these so called shots that do not add up..even watch the movie if you have it frame by frame..if i had my notes i could tell you more and where to look..mouth open mouth closed..crease in shirt no crease..the 7's no sevens lol hand placement ...you get the idea.. lolol/  if i was better at putting pictures up here of the movie i would and i think its great were looking at the older stuff with fresh eyes again..sometimes im thankful for when it does get quite on here to go back and take a look at all that has been posted..sometimes we have to look back on information given to us to beable to move forward..jmo
huggs n love n faith to all
suzz bearhug
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: annieareyouokannie on February 11, 2012, 02:31:22 AM
I cant open any of the pics, can anyone help?
Title: Re: Unseen TII pic.
Post by: MJonmind on February 11, 2012, 03:38:30 AM
Aintnosunshine
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I always thought the "shootings" of TII were spread over a loger period of time (years). That`ll explain all the different looks / weight changes and so on ....  great illusion.
Though I can only see a couple of pics here, just from being here since the beginning seeing all we discussed, I would agree that MJ has put illusions EVERYWHERE in this hoax, little odd things that don't make sense, deliberately.  We have to figure out fact from fiction, real from hoax,  etc.  For years MJ has done little things to subtly or major change his appearance every time he went out in public, sat for interviews like with Bashir, posed for pictures, and throughout TII.  He said his favorite super-hero character was  Morph, because he could change his form, which he said he found exciting! And he's been doing this for the past 2+ years, and also with his voice, disguises,  and on-line usernames. mj_bad/ It's been driving us crazy, and he knows it and loves it!  :mrgreen:
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