Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn => Topic started by: LLJ on December 21, 2009, 06:57:34 AM

Title: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: LLJ on December 21, 2009, 06:57:34 AM
Hi everyone

I did some searching and found this, don't know how credible it is, but would like
your opinion?

http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/the-autopsy.php (http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/the-autopsy.php)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Sophele on December 21, 2009, 07:12:19 AM
now that is in fact weird...   :shock:
maybe someone else should call and ask for confirmation - i would call myself, but i don't live in the states... could someone call?  :?:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: serendipity on December 21, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
I remember somebody from MJHD made a series of inquiries to forrest lawn regarding MJ's burial...Argh! How I wish we could review all the posts we've made there! Gah! :x
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 21, 2009, 08:59:50 AM
Think I might email them....
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: mjboogie on December 21, 2009, 09:11:18 AM
Yes, I remember someone from MJHD calling and emailing Forest Lawn on this. OK are there two Forest Lawns? Make sure we have the right one. But yes in fact that is highly strange given that he was one of the most popular entertainers of all time!! What the heck is going on and we all know that the paps have not gotten pictures of anyone visiting the grave right? Also at the end of the Jackson's reality show there is Michael Jackson rest in peace. :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: doreentbird on December 21, 2009, 09:15:34 AM
MICHAEL IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT FOREST LAWN MEMORIAL  PARK AND MORTUARY IN GLENDALE
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Yes, I remember someone from MJHD calling and emailing Forest Lawn on this. OK are there two Forest Lawns? Make sure we have the right one. But yes in fact that is highly strange given that he was one of the most popular entertainers of all time!! What the heck is going on and we all know that the paps have not gotten pictures of anyone visiting the grave right? Also at the end of the Jackson's reality show there is Michael Jackson rest in peace. :cry:

yeah but the RIP is for a Michael Joseph Jackson which there is a death certificate for the same name but IMO maybe not be valid.

I would like to email forest lawn and ask them if Michael Joe Jackson is buried there and if so who is allowed to visit?
*runs to the Forest Lawn website*

I'm afraid to hear their response. I don't know if I can take hearing "yes he is." :oops:  :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 21, 2009, 09:21:21 AM
On the old mjkit , I along  with a few others called Forest Lawn to inquire about ordering and delivering flowers to Mj during  the holidays. I was forwarded to the florist shop on the grounds and spoke to a representative who was ready to take orders for such a purchase. She indicated that the flowers would be delivered to him.

By now there may have been zillions of calls regarding MJ. Hence the the staff may have been instructed to provide vague reponses. They do not know if they are speaking to inquisitive fans or potential grave diggers who are checking out the cemetary.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 09:31:51 AM
in your reference to grave diggers, i  cannot help but think about all the other BIG celebrities and even royalty we know who are buried on grounds that everyone knows about.

We know where Lady Diana is buried and there are regular tours made. so why not let family, friends, fans know the whereabouts of Michael's "grave" and let people visit.

btw if you use the feature Burial Site Locater on the forest lawn website I just searched up Michael Jackson (08/29/58-06/25/2009) in Glendale and gave me

"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"

p.s. i apologize if my posts someitmes disrespectful. please know that i am not being rude with anyone here. i get a little anxious at some of the things and happenings taking place.

With L.O.V.E. :D
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 21, 2009, 10:23:41 AM
Okay so I just emailed them.... can someone tell me why I am dreading getting a reply.
 :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 21, 2009, 10:29:01 AM
Because...
For a split second you might , as we all might, believe that they would tell us  something that we would not want to hear.  :lol:

Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Okay so I just emailed them.... can someone tell me why I am dreading getting a reply.
 :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: LLJ on December 21, 2009, 10:52:35 AM
I am also scared, but how can we even be sure that their reply is going to be 100% truthful?

It's so hard, one don't know who to believe.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
well when I e-mailed them, i freaked out.

im just afraid of what their response might be. although the worst they can tell me is that yes he is buried here and no one is allowed to visit.

but when i search up the forest lawn website it said there wasnt anyone by that name interred at forest lawn.

just dont know what to believe.

so whatever they may write us shouldnt completely break us. unless they accompany it with undoubtable proof.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: YourLoveIsMagical on December 21, 2009, 02:07:16 PM
Thanks for emailing them Crescendo!  You're right -- the worst that can happen is they say he is buried there.  We can analyze the email for clues... but it won't undo everything else we have found so far.  Hug!!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 21, 2009, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: "YourLoveIsMagical"
Thanks for emailing them Crescendo!  You're right -- the worst that can happen is they say he is buried there.  We can analyze the email for clues... but it won't undo everything else we have found so far.  Hug!!

True. Im waiting for a reply too... 8-)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Lorrie on December 21, 2009, 03:32:26 PM
Interesting. If the following is true:
Quote
I called Forest Lawn and was surprised to find out that they would not aknowledge that Michael Jackson was in fact burried there.   I was in shock, I asked the lady if all the media stuff about the buriel was a sham and she would say nothing.  I told her I watched the TV coverage of the body supposedly being moved to the Masoleum.  She said she had no information on this,  I asked if we could tour the Masoleum and she said no.  Noone was allowed in there and she could not even say if Michael was buried there.
...then who and where did Karen Faye visit when she supposedly took the infamous crypt photos that ended up on TMZ's website and in The Sun paper?

Somebody's obviously confused or lying, but I don't know if it's Karen, the woman who answered the phone at Forest Lawn, or the person who called Forest Lawn in the above quote from November 18.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Mish1981 on December 21, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
Here is an idea that popped in my head and it might be silly, but instead of just calling and asking if MJ is there call for someone else. Find out what other celeb is there and call and ask about that person. See if they will answer then. That way its known if it is just MJ they are not answering about or not.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: lisap27 on December 21, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: "Mish1981"
Here is an idea that popped in my head and it might be silly, but instead of just calling and asking if MJ is there call for someone else. Find out what other celeb is there and call and ask about that person. See if they will answer then. That way its known if it is just MJ they are not answering about or not.


oooooo how cunning.. i like it..  :D  :lol:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 04:05:07 PM
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 21, 2009, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
She was baptized Norma jean Baker..I wonder if that changes anything?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
Quote from: "4evermichael71"
Quote from: "Crescendo"
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
She was baptized Norma jean Baker..I wonder if that changes anything?

dude, first off your sig is bad. (bad meaning good :D )

and thank you for that. i searched up Norma Jean Baker but nothing came up for it. Im gonna keep trying.

if anyone can think of someone else who is interred there please lemme know. :)

forest lawn says (on the same page as the grave locater)

"It's possible that the person who made the funeral arrangements did not desire family information displayed on the internet. Forest Lawn respects and protects the privacy of its families. Public records are available from the county health department where the death occurred."

so maybe the Jacksons asked to keep it private. idk maybe becuase no one who is the beautiful Michael Jackson is there so there is no info.

im thinking all that happened was there was footage taken on a set resembling the Forest Lawn park but they really werent there. (compare the aerial footage to the ground footage which was allowed by the Jacksons) which is why the background looks FAKE and there are trash cans within view of someones funeral.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: teensy on December 21, 2009, 04:26:44 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
in your reference to grave diggers, i  cannot help but think about all the other BIG celebrities and even royalty we know who are buried on grounds that everyone knows about.

We know where Lady Diana is buried and there are regular tours made. so why not let family, friends, fans know the whereabouts of Michael's "grave" and let people visit.

btw if you use the feature Burial Site Locater on the forest lawn website I just searched up Michael Jackson (08/29/58-06/25/2009) in Glendale and gave me

"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"

p.s. i apologize if my posts someitmes disrespectful. please know that i am not being rude with anyone here. i get a little anxious at some of the things and happenings taking place.

With L.O.V.E. :D

The lack of information always puts up a flag to me.  :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on December 21, 2009, 04:38:17 PM
It was Velvetsilvergirl who called Forest Lawn back then. She even recorded it, so we ppl in chat could hear it (it was also posted).

She asked, where she could send flowers to the grave of MJ. The answer was, that he is at no location of Forest Lawn.

We wondered why they didn´t just say that this information is private, or that she was not allowed to give out this information (in case that there was a funeral). But no, she just said "at no location". Weird.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 21, 2009, 04:40:05 PM
No need for apologies. Speak up and speak often! It's an opinion and every person has one.  :lol:

I have a hunch that there are enough weirdos, wackos and sickos who would jump at the chance to rob (or desecrate) MJs grave if they had access to it. The risk is too great to take that chance.
 
Princess Di and other public figures might and I say again might get a little more respect.

It's a safe bet that family and friends know the whereabouts. It is the general public that is unaware.  ;)

Quote from: "Crescendo"
in your reference to grave diggers, i  cannot help but think about all the other BIG celebrities and even royalty we know who are buried on grounds that everyone knows about.

We know where Lady Diana is buried and there are regular tours made. so why not let family, friends, fans know the whereabouts of Michael's "grave" and let people visit.

btw if you use the feature Burial Site Locater on the forest lawn website I just searched up Michael Jackson (08/29/58-06/25/2009) in Glendale and gave me

"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"

p.s. i apologize if my posts someitmes disrespectful. please know that i am not being rude with anyone here. i get a little anxious at some of the things and happenings taking place.

With L.O.V.E. :D
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
It was Velvetsilvergirl who called Forest Lawn back then. She even recorded it, so we ppl in chat could hear it (it was also posted).

She asked, where she could send flowers to the grave of MJ. The answer was, that he is at no location of Forest Lawn.

We wondered why they didn´t just say that this information is private, or that she was not allowed to give out this information.

does anyone know where i can find that post? i would like to hear it.

Thank you. :)

thats nice to hear.

p.s. i hate making typos.  :lol:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: knowhesalive on December 21, 2009, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "4evermichael71"
Quote from: "Crescendo"
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
She was baptized Norma jean Baker..I wonder if that changes anything?

dude, first off your sig is bad. (bad meaning good :D )

and thank you for that. i searched up Norma Jean Baker but nothing came up for it. Im gonna keep trying.

if anyone can think of someone else who is interred there please lemme know. :)

forest lawn says (on the same page as the grave locater)

"It's possible that the person who made the funeral arrangements did not desire family information displayed on the internet. Forest Lawn respects and protects the privacy of its families. Public records are available from the county health department where the death occurred."

so maybe the Jacksons asked to keep it private. idk maybe becuase no one who is the beautiful Michael Jackson is there so there is no info.

im thinking all that happened was there was footage taken on a set resembling the Forest Lawn park but they really werent there. (compare the aerial footage to the ground footage which was allowed by the Jacksons) which is why the background looks FAKE and there are trash cans within view of someones funeral.

Hmm think i'd read somewhere that Clark Gable is buried there... Or mabye my brain needs a rest ;)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 21, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
Okay I tried Clark Gable and William Gable (using the birth and death dates) and I found nothing.

Maybe celebs info is kept classified.

I would like to call Forest Lawn and ask about someone other than MJ like Mish1981 had suggested. I just don't have the nerve to. lol
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: mmz on December 21, 2009, 05:35:10 PM
I remember a girl in MJHD site that has tried to deliver flowers to FL for Michael,and they did.
I don't know if we can consider it a confirmation...
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on December 21, 2009, 05:49:12 PM
The problem with contacting Forest Lawn is you are assuming that they are in on the hoax. Anyone who answers the phone may simply say that "yes', Michael Jackson is interned here" or "we can not give out any information" etc. What makes you think that employees at Forest lawn would have any more information on whether Michael is alive or not? There is no reason to believe that people working at this cemetery would have any knowledge about this situation. Just seems that this avenue really is a waste of time in my opinion.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Mish1981 on December 21, 2009, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The problem with contacting Forest Lawn is you are assuming that they are in on the hoax. Anyone who answers the phone may simply say that "yes', Michael Jackson is interned here" or "we can not give out any information" etc. What makes you think that employees at Forest lawn would have any more information on whether Michael is alive or not? There is no reason to believe that people working at this cemetery would have any knowledge about this situation. Just seems that this avenue really is a waste of time in my opinion.


That is very true!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 21, 2009, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The problem with contacting Forest Lawn is you are assuming that they are in on the hoax. Anyone who answers the phone may simply say that "yes', Michael Jackson is interned here" or "we can not give out any information" etc. What makes you think that employees at Forest lawn would have any more information on whether Michael is alive or not? There is no reason to believe that people working at this cemetery would have any knowledge about this situation. Just seems that this avenue really is a waste of time in my opinion.

I agree.  It's possible that Forest Lawn had the (empty) gold coffin in their possession, but it could have been sealed or locked so nobody who works there knows anything at all.  I don't remember seeing refrigeration or embalming on the bill from FL.  I think it's highly unlikely anyone there would be in on the hoax.  Of course it can't hurt to ask, but I doubt we'll get any answers.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 21, 2009, 06:26:11 PM
Marlon and LaToya have spoken in interviews how nicely Michael was prepeared before his burial, makeup was done, clothes picked out, hair stylist was hired on a corpse two month old with an open skull and half a brain.. And LaToya said he looked ''amazing''. Wow she must have a really distorted perception on what amazing looks like. You get the picture..  :lol: But where exactly was all this performed? At the coroners office? Do they use these procedures there?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: mjboogie on December 21, 2009, 06:41:40 PM
Can a body really be preserved that long?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Christiana on December 21, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The problem with contacting Forest Lawn is you are assuming that they are in on the hoax. Anyone who answers the phone may simply say that "yes', Michael Jackson is interned here" or "we can not give out any information" etc. What makes you think that employees at Forest lawn would have any more information on whether Michael is alive or not? There is no reason to believe that people working at this cemetery would have any knowledge about this situation. Just seems that this avenue really is a waste of time in my opinion.

I agree.  It's possible that Forest Lawn had the (empty) gold coffin in their possession, but it could have been sealed or locked so nobody who works there knows anything at all.  I don't remember seeing refrigeration or embalming on the bill from FL.  I think it's highly unlikely anyone there would be in on the hoax.  Of course it can't hurt to ask, but I doubt we'll get any answers.

I totally agree. I personally do NOT believe that this many people could possibly be in on the hoax. It makes absolutely no sense at all for that to be the case. A casket WAS interred at Forest Lawn in Glendale. What we do not know for sure is if MJ was in there, if someone else was, or if it was just all together empty. But regardless, I have no doubt at all that everyone at FL believes they interred Michael Jackson on September 4, 2009.

As for Marilyn Monroe, just FYI, she is NOT at FL:
http://cemeteryguide.com/monroe.html (http://cemeteryguide.com/monroe.html)

But Walt Disney is, so is Clark Gable, Carole Lombard, Jimmy Stewart, Jean Harlow, Humphrey Bogart, Sammy Davis, Jr., Nat King Cole, and others.

Forest Lawn does have a privacy policy too and does not give out information about ANY person (celebrity or otherwise) if their family has requested that restriction.

http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest- ... Policy.asp (http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Privacy-Policy.asp)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: geminigurl on December 21, 2009, 07:06:42 PM
In Canada these preparations are done at the funeral home - not sure if its different in the US. It would seem weird to be done at a coronor's - but then again - Michael isn't dead so maybe this is just another item to add to the "weird" list.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 21, 2009, 10:20:30 PM
Guys, they can tell you that Michael is in Forest Lawn but it doesn't prove that he is really dead and lying there. And the tomb that KF posted the pictures of can be empty. So no need to worry if you get a positive reply from Forest Lawn. They will tell you what they need to say. So pls don't upset and lose your hope if they say that Michael is there :)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: sweet1 on December 21, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Guys, they can tell you that Michael is in Forest Lawn but it doesn't prove that he is really dead and lying there. And the tomb that KF posted the pictures of can be empty. So no need to worry if you got a positive reply from Forest Lawn. They will tell you what they need to say. So pls don't upset and lose your hope if they say that Michael is there :)

You're right about that! MJ is suppose to be in a maseoleum anyway and I doubt very seriously that grave diggers or anyone else can get into that part of the cemetary because of security. The pics KF posted IMO didn't confirm anything for me. She could have very easily gone, took pics and posted. If MJ is in a grave anywhere than I am a ghost typing this message. I guarantee you that the owner of FL signed a Confidentiality contract and agreed not to give out any information on Michael to anyone beyond family and selected ppl. This a very high profile case. I am sure all of you recall the family saying the funeral was going to be secured to the point that no cameras or anything would be allowed?  Strangely, part of the funeral was televised. I know I was one of the ones that called FL and they said they had no information on MJ. We may as well cease from inquiring at FL because we won't get any information. Lastly,He's not there. Keep the Faith! :)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Sangre on December 22, 2009, 03:20:58 AM
Let's see...

IF Michael Jackson is really dead, then:

a) Maybe they were given instructions not to share any information? Celebrity graves are targets (there are sick people out there digging up graves and stealing remains to bail out top dollar from families) and Jackson's family said that they have received strange letters from fans wanting Michael's body parts.

b) It could also mean, Michael was buried somewhere else and Forest Lawn is a diversion.

OR (if it's a hoax)

It could mean MJ wasn't buried after all (because he is alive). Was Michael's middl name Joe or Joseph? Because if it's Joe, the gravestone (which said Michael Joseph Jackson) isn't for him at all.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: MJLOVER32 on December 22, 2009, 07:03:00 AM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "Mish1981"
Here is an idea that popped in my head and it might be silly, but instead of just calling and asking if MJ is there call for someone else. Find out what other celeb is there and call and ask about that person. See if they will answer then. That way its known if it is just MJ they are not answering about or not.


oooooo how cunning.. i like it..  :D  :lol:

Good Idea, has anyone tried this yet??, would be interested to hear the findings. Note sure how credible this article is, but it supports both the d or aLIvE!! theory so we need to drill down a bit more to see what we can find!!  :P
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Datroot on December 22, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
I think Charlie Chaplin and Clark Gable are there and also MJ's grandmother, Martha Bridges.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
I think Charlie Chaplin and Clark Gable are there and also MJ's grandmother, Martha Bridges.

Ooo thank you for that info, Datroot.

I found a Martha Jane Bridges buried in Glendale.

 
  Bridges, Martha Jane  02/09/1963 Glendale


Interment for: Bridges, Martha Jane  
 
  Interment Details:  
 
  Park Glendale  
 
  Section Acacia  
 
  Lot # 5202
 
  Space # 4
 
  Property Other

does anyone know when she died? was it on 02/09/1963?

the Glendale part is unsettling because isnt that supposedly where Michael is?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:10:22 PM
hold on now there is another Martha Bridges buried in Hollywood Hills too. :?:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Datroot on December 22, 2009, 02:18:55 PM
I think she died in the late 80s or early 90s - I know there were pics of MJ at her funeral.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
phew.

Bridges, Martha  04/29/1990 Hollywood Hills

so if Mj really is gone, wouldnt they bury him next to her? I mean I know its up the family of course. idk im just talking out of my head.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Datroot on December 23, 2009, 03:34:17 AM
This is what was reported at first - they mentioned it on Sky TV over here (UK).
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 23, 2009, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "Mish1981"
Here is an idea that popped in my head and it might be silly, but instead of just calling and asking if MJ is there call for someone else. Find out what other celeb is there and call and ask about that person. See if they will answer then. That way its known if it is just MJ they are not answering about or not.


oooooo how cunning.. i like it..  :D  :lol:

Okay...I tried this by email through a different address than I asked about Michael... see if I get a reply........
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: i_need YoU on December 24, 2009, 04:38:13 AM
Quote
"It's possible that the person who made the funeral arrangements did not desire family information displayed on the internet. Forest Lawn respects and protects the privacy of its families. Public records are available from the county health department where the death occurred."

so maybe the Jacksons asked to keep it private. idk maybe becuase no one who is the beautiful Michael Jackson is there so there is no info.


ok well why would the family want to keep it PRIVATE after they put the funeral on television. I mean everyone in the world knows that MJ is " buried " at glandale forrest lawn. So i dont see the point in forest lawn being able verify that MJ is buried their when the family already basically told the whole world where Michael is supposedly buried
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 24, 2009, 06:17:26 AM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
Marilyn is not buried there, My friend has been to visit her grave and many people go to pay their respects even now. This is where Marilyn is laid to rest;

Burial Place of Marilyn Monroe
Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Park
1218 Glendon Ave.
Westwood, CA
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 24, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Crescendo"
crud. I looked up Marilyn Monroe (Norma Jean Mortenson) which is supposed to be interred at Forest Lawn but there were no results for her either but i blieve she is buried there. but the same page that said
"There is no interment data matching the supplied information"
like it did for Mj.

who else, famous and not, is buried there? i wanna searh them up to see if it works.
Marilyn is not buried there, My friend has been to visit her grave and many people go to pay their respects even now. This is where Marilyn is laid to rest;

Burial Place of Marilyn Monroe
Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Park
1218 Glendon Ave.
Westwood, CA


okay thank you for clearing that up. the only reason i thought MM was there is because of that RIDICULOUS seance they supposedly had with Michael and he said that he wanted to be buried by Marilyn Monroe. yeah i know. I didn't believe the jive so I should have automatically assumed Marilyn was there. :roll:  Silly me. :D

But Michael's grandmother is there and is buried in Hollywood Hills. Not in Glendale where Michael is supposedly. :roll:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Mj5StarChick on December 24, 2009, 12:45:43 PM
Well early on in the post they were talking about how Latoya was saying that Michael looked so nice I really can't undertsand how he could mentioning that Michael's body would have still been decomposed!!!!! Even tho he was in refrigeration he was in there for how long 3 months just about??? And he would start decomposing just as if it was hot because his body is going to rot just like if you leave food in the fridge to long its going to rot. I hope this doesn't sound rude but I'm just saying even if u try makeup his face would still show signs of decompostion because my sisters teacher died and her face was purple because she started to decompose beacuse they left her body to long. That's why I always thought that he really couldn't look that fly and hot no matter what he has on!!!!!! Well it really shouldn't matter because he's alive right :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 24, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Well early on in the post they were talking about how Latoya was saying that Michael looked so nice I really can't undertsand how he could mentioning that Michael's body would have still been decomposed!!!!! Even tho he was in refrigeration he was in there for how long 3 months just about??? And he would start decomposing just as if it was hot because his body is going to rot just like if you leave food in the fridge to long its going to rot. I hope this doesn't sound rude but I'm just saying even if u try makeup his face would still show signs of decompostion because my sisters teacher died and her face was purple because she started to decompose beacuse they left her body to long. That's why I always thought that he really couldn't look that fly and hot no matter what he has on!!!!!! Well it really shouldn't matter because he's alive right :?

Oh yeah. Theres a thread here already about the decomposition of a body and how long it takes and if keeping it on ice slows down the progression. I'll have to find it.

what gets me is the ambulance photo. My brother (who is an emt) said that his face probably should have been a shade of purple because I believe it would have been caused by the blood settling to one side or so.

I'm so confused.  :roll: lol
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 24, 2009, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Marilyn is not buried there, My friend has been to visit her grave and many people go to pay their respects even now. This is where Marilyn is laid to rest;

Burial Place of Marilyn Monroe
Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Park
1218 Glendon Ave.
Westwood, CA


okay thank you for clearing that up. the only reason i thought MM was there is because of that RIDICULOUS seance they supposedly had with Michael and he said that he wanted to be buried by Marilyn Monroe. yeah i know. I didn't believe the jive so I should have automatically assumed Marilyn was there. :roll:  Silly me. :D

But Michael's grandmother is there and is buried in Hollywood Hills. Not in Glendale where Michael is supposedly. :roll:[/quote]
Thats ok-I think that seance misled a lot of people. What springs to mind though is Marilyn was not as famous as Michael when she was living, since her death she has become an icon and the whole world knows of her but the point I am trying to make is thousands of fans pay their respects to Marilyn every year and visit her grave, she died in 1962 and still the masses go. Why isn't Michael buried somewhere where people can pay their respects now and in many years to come?
Don't forget Charlie Chaplins body was dug up and "kidnapped". Is this why? they want absolutely no chance of anyone finding out Michaels grave is empty?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Mj5StarChick on December 24, 2009, 01:01:46 PM
Ur brother is exactly right!!!! Michaels face was way to glowing lol to be in the house for so long like that and him being dead at that because blood will settle and it can cause certain parts of the body to puff up and yea his face probably should have been a purple or bluish color. Lols I know so much because I get curious aroud grown ups well really I have been curious about this stuff since my dad passed.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 24, 2009, 01:04:22 PM
BTW. Charlie Chaplin is not buried at Forest Lawn, he is buried at Corsier cemetery, Vaud Canton, Switzerland. After his body was recovered from the kidnappers he was reburied under thick layers of concrete.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 24, 2009, 01:14:07 PM
Wow.. Seriously. I mean like who would want to take a body.

I mean I LOVE Mj. I admire Michael and love him dearly.

But if the man is gone (i wish, hope and pray he's not) I wouldn't want to see him like that much less take his remains. Let the passed on rest in peace, grave robbers. :x
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Angelica on December 24, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
Hello Harley Blonde!
I agree with you, it's all very simple.
See, that's fine that the family did not want nobody up there the vault, but an official of the home say that they do not know if this buried there.
Oh ... wait, who wants to fool?
From the moment that they comply with the determinations of the family is not letting anyone near the crypt, they need not deny anything.
It was not televised? So to that position?
More and more I believe the pictures of the place of the funeral, which they said was a studio, then I saw the photos behind the altar was an autobus, and the other placed other deposits!
You see clearly that it is mounting, the truth is one.
All this was a scenario of both make great videos he specialized and applied in it. :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 24, 2009, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: "Angelica"
Hello Harley Blonde!
I agree with you, it's all very simple.
See, that's fine that the family did not want nobody up there the vault, but an official of the home say that they do not know if this buried there.
Oh ... wait, who wants to fool?
From the moment that they comply with the determinations of the family is not letting anyone near the crypt, they need not deny anything.
It was not televised? So to that position?
More and more I believe the pictures of the place of the funeral, which they said was a studio, then I saw the photos behind the altar was an autobus, and the other placed other deposits!
You see clearly that it is mounting, the truth is one.
All this was a scenario of both make great videos he specialized and applied in it. :?
Hi and yes, you are so right. There are many things you have pointed out which are not normal and just scream out HOAX!! If he really had passed away it would have been so very different.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 24, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
Anyone rang them to ask if Brittany Murphy is buried there?

It would just be interesting to see what the answer would be if someone rang to ask if they could confirm if Brittany Murphy is buried there and see if the answer differs from when asked about MJ.

Im in UK so cant ring.   :geek:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 24, 2009, 05:04:41 PM
CHECK THIS ARTICLE OUT ABOUT BRITTANY MURPHY:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_ ... hy_funeral (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_en_ce/us_brittany_murphy_funeral)

SCROLL DOWN TO THE END WHERE IT STATES WHICH OTHER FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE BURIED AT FOREST LAWN:

Other stars buried at Forest Lawn include Liberace, Bette Davis, Lucille Ball, Gene Autry and Freddie Prinze.

Er.. helllo?????????
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: MJresearch on December 24, 2009, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
CHECK THIS ARTICLE OUT ABOUT BRITTANY MURPHY:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_ ... hy_funeral (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_en_ce/us_brittany_murphy_funeral)

SCROLL DOWN TO THE END WHERE IT STATES WHICH OTHER FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE BURIED AT FOREST LAWN:

Other stars buried at Forest Lawn include Liberace, Bette Davis, Lucille Ball, Gene Autry and Freddie Prinze.

Er.. helllo?????????

Isn't it good news that Michael is missing ??? ;)   ;)   :D   :D
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 24, 2009, 05:13:28 PM
@Mjsearch.. it is good news, but why they do it??  Either admit he is there or state he is not!!!

Another article does it here:  http://www.popcrunch.com/brittany-murphy-funeral/ (http://www.popcrunch.com/brittany-murphy-funeral/)

In fact i have found loads of articles that dont list MJ
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: angelshadow on December 24, 2009, 05:44:24 PM
Yes that is very good, good news
Thanks
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Ninanina on December 24, 2009, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Ur brother is exactly right!!!! Michaels face was way to glowing lol to be in the house for so long like that and him being dead at that because blood will settle and it can cause certain parts of the body to puff up and yea his face probably should have been a purple or bluish color. Lols I know so much because I get curious aroud grown ups well really I have been curious about this stuff since my dad passed.

Yes, but is that the case, if CPR is being erformed continuously?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Crescendo on December 24, 2009, 10:21:23 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Ur brother is exactly right!!!! Michaels face was way to glowing lol to be in the house for so long like that and him being dead at that because blood will settle and it can cause certain parts of the body to puff up and yea his face probably should have been a purple or bluish color. Lols I know so much because I get curious aroud grown ups well really I have been curious about this stuff since my dad passed.

Yes, but is that the case, if CPR is being erformed continuously?


It's true if the person is already passed. There have been so many stories in Michael's case. But one of the stories was that Michael had already passed on hours before the ambulance arrived. So if thats the case that photo of him in the ambulance should look little different.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: Ninanina on December 24, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Ur brother is exactly right!!!! Michaels face was way to glowing lol to be in the house for so long like that and him being dead at that because blood will settle and it can cause certain parts of the body to puff up and yea his face probably should have been a purple or bluish color. Lols I know so much because I get curious aroud grown ups well really I have been curious about this stuff since my dad passed.

Yes, but is that the case, if CPR is being erformed continuously?


It's true if the person is already passed. There have been so many stories in Michael's case. But one of the stories was that Michael had already passed on hours before the ambulance arrived. So if thats the case that photo of him in the ambulance should look little different.

I'm still awaiting Ed Winter's email answering my question about the actual time of "death"  :lol:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: i_need YoU on December 25, 2009, 01:24:32 AM
If Michael Jackson's family were so worried about grave robbers and if MJ was REALLY DEAD then they would not have mentioned where he was buried and they would def. not put it on television!!!

And if MJ is relly dead :( and they try to protect him from grave robbers they could have said he was buried at Forrest Lawn and really took him somewheres else...but i am voting with the first option that he is just alive :)...every single day coming back on here i feel like we are getting closer but i wanna know when he is coming back!!! :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawm Won't confirm MJ's burial
Post by: lisap27 on December 25, 2009, 09:14:29 AM
sorry if this has been posted but check this video out of fans at FORREST LAWN Dec 3rd 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBgSjTQmmI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBgSjTQmmI)

if you watch it watch to almost the end a fan has the door open an you can see right inside an someone tells the to shut it so the don't get in trouble.. cos security is in there.. they could have been anybody and they can open the door like that..  hmmmmmmmmmmm :shock:  :shock:
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