Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Persons Of Interest => Everyone Else => Dave Dave => Topic started by: Loes on March 16, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
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In this video DaveDave is walking and we can compare his way of walking with Michael's .. ;)
(I think it's Michael ... :D )
[youtube:21zw3b9m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47684XTeQG8&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube:21zw3b9m]
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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THAT person DOES walk like Michael :))
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I agree that is a fairly Michaelish walk :) :) :)
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I say MJ. Dave Dave in this video looks to be around MJ's height. Isn't the real Dave Dave very tall? I also notice his demeanor. He has his hands in his pocket and he walking rather quickly like he's in a hurry to get somewhere. He look kinda suspect.
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He is very slim to be DAVE DAVE. DD is a little chunkier. Unless he lost weight. He does walk like MJ..
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don't think it is daves way to be all covered up like that either. didn't we see a video of him walking down the sidewalk with his mother or something like that a while back. know what i mean , no need for the coat when everyone else is in short sleeves.
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Hmmm....looks familiar to me too. However, it would be great to see a video of the "real" DD walking just to compare. Thanks for sharing this with us. Blessings :)
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Absolutely no reason for it to be MJ.......
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My guess...MJ.
Can I also say this? MJ looks mighty fine as himself in this clip - does anyone know where that footage is from?
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Whoa! It looks really similar! Great video! :shock:
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Definitely the same walk...IMO
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Yeah! Looks like Michael indeed.
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Absolutely no reason for it to be MJ.......
Why not?
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I don't understand how more people don't recognize the obvious disguise...lol... ever since I saw Dave Dave on LKL I haven't been able to give up on this hoax because it was CLEARLY MJ. I even had my boyfriend and my mom say "um, is that Michael Jackson?" and they don't even care about this stuff nor did they realize he could be alive at that time... :lol: They said it in a confused way like "that's clearly MJ in disguise but isn't he dead sooo when was that recorded?".... andddd this walk just confirms it more for me. The only other possibility is that Dave Dave went out of his way to appear to be Michael in disguise. Doesn't it seem more plausible that the first option is correct??
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[youtube:1yfpysa6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:1yfpysa6]
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My guess...MJ.
Can I also say this? MJ looks mighty fine as himself in this clip - does anyone know where that footage is from?
That was Michael at the 2006 World Music Awards. If you haven't seen it on YouTube you need to check it out. Some people were disappointed that Michael was supposed to sing and felt he wasn't able to perform but I didn't see that. What I witnessed was a crowd so excited to see MJ that the noise was deafening so Michael quit singing in order to give the fans what they really wanted, and that was his attention. That's just my personal opinion before you watch the clip. I love watching that video and I love how the crowd showed their love to him. Blessings.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rG9g1w2kA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rG9g1w2kA)
Part 11 (where he performs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qOp8l4_9c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qOp8l4_9c)
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[youtube:10ev5ss4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:10ev5ss4]
Hi Bleu! This video seems like it's not Michael which confuses me because I am a firm believer that
It was Michael on LKL.... Hmmm...what does everyone else think??
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[youtube:1tb0qb1c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:1tb0qb1c]
Hi Bleu! This video seems like it's not Michael which confuses me because I am a firm believer that
It was Michael on LKL.... Hmmm...what does everyone else think??
I think the same as you, I'm confused again ... :roll:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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He walks like Michael. :shock:
Also, it looks like he's biting his lip, Michael does that aloooot :D
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I don't understand how more people don't recognize the obvious disguise...lol... ever since I saw Dave Dave on LKL I haven't been able to give up on this hoax because it was CLEARLY MJ. I even had my boyfriend and my mom say "um, is that Michael Jackson?" and they don't even care about this stuff nor did they realize he could be alive at that time... :lol: They said it in a confused way like "that's clearly MJ in disguise but isn't he dead sooo when was that recorded?".... andddd this walk just confirms it more for me. The only other possibility is that Dave Dave went out of his way to appear to be Michael in disguise. Doesn't it seem more plausible that the first option is correct??
Lol I feel you. I've had people listen to the LKL clip who don't even really like Michael, and they all believe it's really Michael talking. Then I turn the screen around and show them and they're like WTF! Fun party trick :lol:
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[youtube:2ka6mjgu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:2ka6mjgu]
Hi Bleu! This video seems like it's not Michael which confuses me because I am a firm believer that
It was Michael on LKL.... Hmmm...what does everyone else think??
I think the same as you, I'm confused again ... :roll:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
have you noticed that whoever it is in the car, his story about meeting MJ for the first time - the guy in the car met MJ in Encino, while the guy on LKL met MJ for the first time in Neverland, so:
1) two different people?
2) someone messed up the script?
3) Dave Dave has bad memory?
4) another clue to catch?
5) what else.....
discussed also already here Dave Dave old thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5591&p=87949#p87949)
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[youtube:1qcu97oj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:1qcu97oj]
Hi Bleu! This video seems like it's not Michael which confuses me because I am a firm believer that
It was Michael on LKL.... Hmmm...what does everyone else think??
I think the same as you, I'm confused again ... :roll:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
have you noticed that whoever it is in the car, his story about meeting MJ for the first time - the guy in the car met MJ in Encino, while the guy on LKL met MJ for the first time in Neverland, so:
1) two different people?
2) someone messed up the script?
3) Dave Dave has bad memory?
4) another clue to catch?
5) what else.....
discussed also already here Dave Dave old thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5591&p=87949#p87949)
we're 50/50 on the dave dave / mj ? :? I wish I could meet this Dave in person!!!
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[youtube:2gv1kteg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related[/youtube:2gv1kteg]
Hi Bleu! This video seems like it's not Michael which confuses me because I am a firm believer that
It was Michael on LKL.... Hmmm...what does everyone else think??
I think the same as you, I'm confused again ... :roll:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
have you noticed that whoever it is in the car, his story about meeting MJ for the first time - the guy in the car met MJ in Encino, while the guy on LKL met MJ for the first time in Neverland, so:
1) two different people?
2) someone messed up the script?
3) Dave Dave has bad memory?
4) another clue to catch?
5) what else.....
discussed also already here Dave Dave old thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5591&p=87949#p87949)
I was about to post the exact same thing. When you lie you need a very good memory. :lol:
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I started to feel like Dave Dave at Larry King was himself, not Michael in disguise.
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lilith wrote
Thank God I found it. I knew he said that thing about the girls who always find out it is him in disguise. I listened to the ever same interviews to find it but finally I found this interview:
Interview With Gold Magazine [2002]
In late 2002, Michael granted an interview with England's prestigious magazine, Gold Magazine.
The magazine is published twice a year by Conde Nast Publications Ltd for Harrods.
http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews.html (http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews.html)
GG: Does it ever become a burden to be one of the most recognized stars in the world?
MJ: There's nowhere in the world I can actually go and have privacy. The thing that hurts the most is the fact that your privacy is taken away from you. To use the silly expression, you live in a fishbowl, but it's true. I do disguises...People know them all, it's very hard, very hard.
GG: What kind of disguises?
MJ: Bat suits, buck teeth, glasses, afros, prosthetics, make-up jobs, everything. Just to sit in the audience and experience it the way an audience would experience a show; I want to feel how they feel.
GG: Do they find you out?
MJ: Sometimes, yes. In the beginning, no. Then they start looking me in the eyes. I put these things on and then they start looking behind the glasses...Girls are very smart, you know. You can trick a guy quicker than you can trick a girl. Women can just pick it up. They know the way you move your body, the way you walk, the way you gesture. I hear them go, 'Look at the way he moves his hand', or 'Look at the way he was walking', and I think, 'Oh no.'
http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews/Gold_Magazine_2002.htm (http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews/Gold_Magazine_2002.htm)
I think Michael showed us a video of him walking in the Dave Dave disguise because he knew we would recognize his walk ;)
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I started to feel like Dave Dave at Larry King was himself, not Michael in disguise.
Just look at the comparisons I made, it always makes me feel "it must be Michael". :)
Okay, it sounds like I'm too proud of my work, although I know not everyone was convinced by them that it's Michael - but for me they work really good. Better than just the video itself. So maybe they help you too.
I attach one of them here, as now when I opened the thread I started about it, I saw that all my comparison photos dissappeared :? From all pages...
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12010 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12010)
This is my favourite - when "DD" cannot hold back smiling :)
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DREAMandTRUTH - so odd that your pictures disappeared...they were great comparisons.
Another video that really sells it for me is this one:
[youtube:2z8p1az1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube:2z8p1az1]
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lilith wrote
Thank God I found it. I knew he said that thing about the girls who always find out it is him in disguise. I listened to the ever same interviews to find it but finally I found this interview:
Interview With Gold Magazine [2002]
In late 2002, Michael granted an interview with England's prestigious magazine, Gold Magazine.
The magazine is published twice a year by Conde Nast Publications Ltd for Harrods.
http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews.html (http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews.html)
GG: Does it ever become a burden to be one of the most recognized stars in the world?
MJ: There's nowhere in the world I can actually go and have privacy. The thing that hurts the most is the fact that your privacy is taken away from you. To use the silly expression, you live in a fishbowl, but it's true. I do disguises...People know them all, it's very hard, very hard.
GG: What kind of disguises?
MJ: Bat suits, buck teeth, glasses, afros, prosthetics, make-up jobs, everything. Just to sit in the audience and experience it the way an audience would experience a show; I want to feel how they feel.
GG: Do they find you out?
MJ: Sometimes, yes. In the beginning, no. Then they start looking me in the eyes. I put these things on and then they start looking behind the glasses...Girls are very smart, you know. You can trick a guy quicker than you can trick a girl. Women can just pick it up. They know the way you move your body, the way you walk, the way you gesture. I hear them go, 'Look at the way he moves his hand', or 'Look at the way he was walking', and I think, 'Oh no.'
http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews/Gold_Magazine_2002.htm (http://mjbaltic.com/Interviews/Gold_Magazine_2002.htm)
I think Michael showed us a video of him walking in the Dave Dave disguise because he knew we would recognize his walk ;)
Thanks DREAMSandTRUTH for pointing this out.
I think it is MJ on LKL.
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@ voiceforthesilent...that video really does it for me too, just being able to hear some similar words and tones side by side...I'm convinced that it was MJ as DD at LKL.
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My guess...MJ.
Can I also say this? MJ looks mighty fine as himself in this clip - does anyone know where that footage is from?
That was Michael at the 2006 World Music Awards. If you haven't seen it on YouTube you need to check it out. Some people were disappointed that Michael was supposed to sing and felt he wasn't able to perform but I didn't see that. What I witnessed was a crowd so excited to see MJ that the noise was deafening so Michael quit singing in order to give the fans what they really wanted, and that was his attention. That's just my personal opinion before you watch the clip. I love watching that video and I love how the crowd showed their love to him. Blessings.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rG9g1w2kA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rG9g1w2kA)
Part 11 (where he performs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qOp8l4_9c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qOp8l4_9c)
voiceforthesilent...thank you for that !! Of all the videos I have watched of Michael, these ones I haven't. He looked amazing and the crowd loved him.
Blessings to you.
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DREAMandTRUTH - so odd that your pictures disappeared...they were great comparisons.
Another video that really sells it for me is this one:
[youtube:c91z1jkm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube:c91z1jkm]
Hi voiceforthesilent :) ,
Thank you for this video, I haven't seen it yet.
When I made my comparison video with the photos, I also wanted to make voice comparisons as well. But I couldn't find any longer words which he pronounced absolutely alike. (You know it depends what you emphasise, your mood is different, etc). What I found really similar were just the same as in this video. "aaand", "aaa", and his "hmmm"s are very very similar too. Who made this video could have included that one too :)
I didn't make this voice comparison with these "hmm"s and "aaa"s because I thought they wouldn't be convincing enough - as they are too short. I mean for those who do not believe it was Michael. But I'm glad that someone made this video, it is better to make something than nothing just because you are too perfectionist like me :)
I spent a lot of time watching videos where he says "mother" and "father", etc. but he never "wanted" to pronounce them the same way. :lol: I couldn't even find two "mother" or "father" which sounded alike, so I really didn't find one which sounded the same as he said them in the LKL interview...
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I started to feel like Dave Dave at Larry King was himself, not Michael in disguise.
Just look at the comparisons I made, it always makes me feel "it must be Michael". :)
Okay, it sounds like I'm too proud of my work, although I know not everyone was convinced by them that it's Michael - but for me they work really good. Better than just the video itself. So maybe they help you too.
I attach one of them here, as now when I opened the thread I started about it, I saw that all my comparison photos dissappeared :? From all pages...
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12010 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12010)
This is my favourite - when "DD" cannot hold back smiling :)
That picture is awesome. You can even see where his real eyebrows are/were. Same cheekbones, same eyes, same everything. Like I said, it's so obvious!!! hahahaha. And brilliant because I don't think many people are/were too familiar with the real Dave Dave so while it is obvious it's the perfect disguise because people wouldn't know the difference. Only his fans would "get it". God I love this man. Genius.
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I've always been sure that Dave Dave on LKL was Michael and nothin' has changed for me so far,and i hear you jessicakthx and jacilovesmichael, when i showed the vodeo of Dave on LKL to my friends the first thing they said was"Is this Michael Jackson in desguise?!", they are more than sure that it's Michael, they're not even MJ's fans and are not interested in hoax,when i turned on Dave's video loud, my aunt who was in another room thought that it was Michael talkin, that it was Michael's voice and she was literally shocked to see that it was "another person", not MJ, the groove of Dave Dave's walk resembles a lot to Michael's