Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Ninanina on December 20, 2009, 02:44:13 PM

Title: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Ninanina on December 20, 2009, 02:44:13 PM
As there are many new movies to come out soon or came out after TII that are MJ related (in our eyes), I'll post my latest find.
Maybe you know already, but to me it was new ,-)

And it will come out exactly one year after the O2 press conference.

ALICE IN WONDERLAND
[youtube:tzbevukm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeWsZ2b_pK4[/youtube:tzbevukm]

The last paintings, Michael ordered from De La Nuez (or what is his name) and Cèline Lavail are connected to Alice In Wonderland - the bunny, the checkered floor, the Mad Hatter...

This is the painting The Mad Hatter from Céline Lavail, that was finished this summer:
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/Mad_Hatter.jpg)
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Eva R on December 20, 2009, 02:46:24 PM
When I saw that trailer i thought: MIKE!! There are so many movies Mike likes now he 'died'. Peter Pan, Tinkerbell, Alice in wonderland :S
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Sophele on December 20, 2009, 02:46:55 PM
wasn't there also a clue somewhere to "follow the white rabbit"!? that had me thinking of alice in wonderland immediately too!  :?

i am really looking forward to the movie - looks great!  :)
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: itsall4love on December 20, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
I love Tim Burton! Can't wait too see the movie.
Don't know about the O2 connection... Maybe just a coincidence? Yet again... I guess we stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago  :D
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: lisap27 on December 20, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
that picture reminds me of Michaels speech in This Is It..

* give me time (look at the clocks)

* this is an adventure (thats what alice went on)

feel free to illaborate!! my mind has gone blank as i started to type.. definatly a link i'm sure!!

* oooo an the chris angel thing!! there's the white rabbit again!!  :shock:

* could be a magicians hat with cards..

* the rabbit has a crown on 2..
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Ninanina on December 20, 2009, 03:06:35 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
I love Tim Burton! Can't wait too see the movie.
Don't know about the O2 connection... Maybe just a coincidence? Yet again... I guess we stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago  :D

Don't know about the date either, but I researched the Mad Hatter painting and then found that clip - of course, the date stood out for me - BIG time! :-)

I also think to remember , that Michael liked Tim Burton a lot. He bought Edward's scissorhands.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Ninanina on December 20, 2009, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
that picture reminds me of Michaels speech in This Is It..

* give me time (look at the clocks)

* this is an adventure (thats what alice went on)

feel free to illaborate!! my mind has gone blank as i started to type.. definatly a link i'm sure!!

* oooo an the chris angel thing!! there's the white rabbit again!!  :shock:

* could be a magicians hat with cards..

* the rabbit has a crown on 2..

Yes, and the clock cogwheel on the left looks like a film reel, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: kpnuts on December 20, 2009, 03:32:44 PM
I can't wait for this either - I'm a big Johnny Depp fan as well..!

Tim Burton is  a great director.  Johnny is his muse. It's such a great partnership.  I have a feeling Michael likes his work too.

This could be very interesting...!
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Eva R on December 21, 2009, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "lisap27"
that picture reminds me of Michaels speech in This Is It..

* give me time (look at the clocks)

* this is an adventure (thats what alice went on)

feel free to illaborate!! my mind has gone blank as i started to type.. definatly a link i'm sure!!

* oooo an the chris angel thing!! there's the white rabbit again!!  :shock:

* could be a magicians hat with cards..

* the rabbit has a crown on 2..

Yes, and the clock cogwheel on the left looks like a film reel, doesn't it?

yes it does look like a film reel!
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: mjmyangelbaby on December 21, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
if you also look at the paintings done for him, there's always a symbol of a palying card of spades please let me know if you notice it too.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: dancingprincess96 on December 28, 2009, 09:01:40 AM
OMG!
in the painting, the magicians hat has some writing in it.
Looks like a date
Can anyone read it?
Plz help!?
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 28, 2009, 11:28:31 AM
I don't believe these movies have anything to do with Michael or the hoax.
It's impossible that all these people would know of the hoax or even would be in it.

But I do believe Michael got his inspiration from his own movies for this hoax, like Moonwalker and Ghosts. (I'm not saying he was planning this back than)
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: dancingprincess96 on December 28, 2009, 11:50:16 AM
yh, i guess so too.....
but wts on the hat??????!!!!

 :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: "dancingprincess96"
yh, i guess so too.....
but wts on the hat??????!!!!

 :D  :D  :D


it's another card ;)
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: dancingprincess96 on December 28, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
is it?
i dont really see it
 :?
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: "dancingprincess96"
is it?
i dont really see it
 :?


I think it is....That's what I see
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Keep.the.Faith on December 28, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
And on the piece of parchment next to the rabbit there's MJ sign. A lot of coincidences, I hope there's sth to it. The O2 date could be a possible come back date. I don't remember who but sb tweeted about flowers blossoming etc. (a quote form Peter Pan), and sb suggested that it may point to spring. May be too far fetched, but who knows, it would all fit...
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Dangerous on December 28, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
i wonder if the time on MJ's clock on the picture could be anything?
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: "Dangerous"
i wonder if the time on MJ's clock on the picture could be anything?

I thought about that, too

What time is it on this clock around the neck? I can't really recognize it..
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Dangerous on December 28, 2009, 04:22:28 PM
it looks like both hands are on the 2, so either 2.10am or 2.10pm
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: "Dangerous"
it looks like both hands are on the 2, so either 2.10am or 2.10pm

hm okay  :(

I thought it has something to do with the time of his "death" or the time of the 911 Call or something...but it was just an Idea...
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: MJLover1990 on December 28, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
I don't think this has anything to do with MJ's Hoax.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Ninanina on December 28, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Dangerous"
it looks like both hands are on the 2, so either 2.10am or 2.10pm

hm okay  :(

I thought it has something to do with the time of his "death" or the time of the 911 Call or something...but it was just an Idea...

I thought it was 1:08h - ish - we can only see one of the watchhands. So it is before 2h and/or befor 10 mins past.
1:08h was the first thing I saw - and BAM - the time of the 911-call.
And I didn't see it, because I wanted. I saw it and then searched for the thing that occurred around that time.
But it could be TOTALLY OFF!  :lol:
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Dangerous"
it looks like both hands are on the 2, so either 2.10am or 2.10pm

hm okay  :(

I thought it has something to do with the time of his "death" or the time of the 911 Call or something...but it was just an Idea...

I thought it was 1:08h - ish - we can only see one of the watchhands. So it is before 2h and/or befor 10 mins past.
1:08h was the first thing I saw - and BAM - the time of the 911-call.
And I didn't see it, because I wanted. I saw it and then searched for the thing that occurred around that time.
But it could be TOTALLY OFF!  :lol:

Maybe it is but I can't relly recognize it...I only see this one big hand between the 1 and the 2...so is the small hand right underneath it? Then it could be 1:08  :shock:
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Dangerous on December 28, 2009, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Dangerous"
it looks like both hands are on the 2, so either 2.10am or 2.10pm

hm okay  :(

I thought it has something to do with the time of his "death" or the time of the 911 Call or something...but it was just an Idea...

I thought it was 1:08h - ish - we can only see one of the watchhands. So it is before 2h and/or befor 10 mins past.
1:08h was the first thing I saw - and BAM - the time of the 911-call.
And I didn't see it, because I wanted. I saw it and then searched for the thing that occurred around that time.
But it could be TOTALLY OFF!  :lol:

You're right the had is before the 2 now i look at it again! i wish the pic was bigger.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 04:59:15 PM
I tried my best to get it bigger....

Just click the picture...to get it big click on the pic then again

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8283/madhatterclock.th.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/madhatterclock.jpg/)
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Dangerous on December 28, 2009, 05:06:09 PM
Thanks!

I can only see one hand on the clock  (unless they are overlapped) which looks like it's at 7 or 8 minutes past something.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Kirsche on December 28, 2009, 05:10:36 PM
Hm I think to get it sharper...but not today. I'll try this tomorrow
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: LASunsets on December 31, 2009, 04:48:09 PM
It looks like 1:08 to me............
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Ninanina on December 31, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
I tried my best to get it bigger....

Just click the picture...to get it big click on the pic then again

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8283/madhatterclock.th.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/madhatterclock.jpg/)


I could be either 1:08h (which would be  :shock:  -  that's the time the ambulance left MJ's house, isn't it?),
or 8:08h - do you see there'S a much lighter and shorter line directing towards 8h, but the resolution is to bad to figure out, whether it's just bad resolution or a clock hand....

Why don't they EVER leave something CLEAR????!!!  :x  :lol:
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: JENNYAPPLEHEAD on December 31, 2009, 06:01:38 PM
What card did David Blaine reveal in his video? Wasn't it the 8 of spades? Just wondering about all the cards being shown to us.
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: LoriCStone on December 31, 2009, 06:55:31 PM
The Opus books has some clues Michael is  surrounded by butterflies in a picture and I didn't see it the first time until I looked again and I noticed a blimp like MJ air in the butterfly picture. Also there is a bunny in it , and a picutre of a Milk lady surrounded by flowers .What kind of flowers, Easter Lily's with purple flowers  in the middle like on the Casket.All these are hand drawn by Michael like a cartoon of him and one showed a stage and Michael Impersonaters dressed in the different outfits from Smooth Criminal ,Thriller , Beat it  and so on ,  it looked exactly like  like Janet's Ama perfomance before she came out .I don't have links but it 's on a you tube video
Title: Re: Alice In Wonderland - March 5th 2010
Post by: Sarahli on December 31, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
In this pic we can see that
- the weather is changing. The sky is becoming grey, dark = things are getting more bad ?
- Michael is "wearing" a watch or a stopwatch ? = Time is running out ?
-the rabbit is sounding the trumpet = the time has come (to what ?) , or the last hour has come...the rabbit is on a green carpet = ?
-on the trumpet there is a parchment with MJ initials = call from MJ the King ?
- the black and white floor = reminds me of album "blood on the dance floor" but this floor may have another meaning ?
-the "wheels" do not match together = there is no gears permitting things to evolve ?

I have not enough time right now to look much deeper into it that's what I pointed out for now. Share your thoughts.

Got to leave you, it's late here, see you soon. Happy New Year !!


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