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Latest News => The Hoax Mentioned In The Media => Topic started by: Yambo3003 on March 03, 2011, 02:00:13 PM

Title: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: Yambo3003 on March 03, 2011, 02:00:13 PM
(http://http://wonderwallmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/The-Jackson-Files-1-XXX.jpg)

http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=104 (http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=104)

Looks like the word is out....
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ijcsly on March 03, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
i can't see it! error on the page...
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: fordtocarr on March 03, 2011, 02:25:43 PM
Is the magazine OUT???  How'd you get his, on line or on the newstand ?  
Souza...how are YOU with this??  Looks nice.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: Yambo3003 on March 03, 2011, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Is the magazine OUT???  How'd you get his, on line or on the newstand ?  
Souza...how are YOU with this??  Looks nice.


It's online. No idea if they print an issue yet.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: fordtocarr on March 03, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Is the magazine OUT???  How'd you get his, on line or on the newstand ?  
Souza...how are YOU with this??  Looks nice.

I can't find ANYTHING on their site to contact them!!!  I don't know how to get the magazine or subscribe.  I clicked on the subscribe and it won't do that at all.  

Wonder who leyva is that wrote it??
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 02:47:48 PM
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: fordtocarr on March 03, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.

They did use my article, from the homepage, which we have made with the collected info months ago. The editor didn't want to write himself, because he said we had put so much time in it, that we could do a much better job. So now he used the homepage.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: jacilovesmichael on March 03, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
Can someone paste the info from that link? It won't work on my computer...
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 03:32:55 PM
JaCi, can you see this one?

(http://http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/Jackson_Files.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: Yambo3003 on March 03, 2011, 03:33:57 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Can someone paste the info from that link? It won't work on my computer...


The link redirects to the image on the original post.  :)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 03, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
here is a copy.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: jacilovesmichael on March 03, 2011, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
JaCi, can you see this one?

(http://http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/Jackson_Files.jpg)

Yes, thank you!
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: anewfan on March 03, 2011, 10:09:46 PM
:?:
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 03, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
Souza...
Too bad you chose not to do it your way...you tried....bummer.
The article is good but it reads like what it is a teaser.
(http://http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/4f53616b1e6167008c3ecd98cb1cbde85b374ee6.gif)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 10:51:17 PM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Souza...
Too bad you chose not to do it your way...you tried....bummer.
The article is good but it reads like what it is a teaser.
(http://http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/4f53616b1e6167008c3ecd98cb1cbde85b374ee6.gif)

No, there is actually a second page and there will be an intro. The editor will send it to me later.

Yeah, I tried, bummer indeed. The magazine is an honest one and I think that maybe it's even better when he just uses the info and run with it. That way he might post stuff that needs to be out but people want to keep 'secret' in here. Hell, I have no control over it, so who's blaming me?  :lol: If people don't agree with what they publish, it will be their own fault. The magazine gave us the opportunity to have full control over it and they didn't want to. They rather have media make their own story. Too bad...
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 03, 2011, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
Souza...
Too bad you chose not to do it your way...you tried....bummer.
The article is good but it reads like what it is a teaser.
(http://http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/4f53616b1e6167008c3ecd98cb1cbde85b374ee6.gif)

No, there is actually a second page and there will be an intro. The editor will send it to me later.

Yeah, I tried, bummer indeed. The magazine is an honest one and I think that maybe it's even better when he just uses the info and run with it. That way he might post stuff that needs to be out but people want to keep 'secret' in here. Hell, I have no control over it, so who's blaming me?  :lol: If people don't agree with what they publish, it will be their own fault. The magazine gave us the opportunity to have full control over it and they didn't want to. They rather have media make their own story. Too bad...

Souza - with all due respect, we don't want to keep 'secret' in here. I do suspect by your comments that you knew all along that this was going to be done but it's too late to argue or place blame now. Same goes - please don't place blame on those of us that didn't think this was a good idea - it's like saying you want to be congratulated for the good but if it turns out bad it's not your fault.

Some of us didn't want that information out there for very good reason.
1) Michael could be in danger - we don't know that he isn't.
2) We have been around to see the debacle over The Sun article and that didn't turn out well. And, I think you were supposed to have control over that article. We know how that turned out.
3) We aren't seeking attention - we are seeking truth. Putting an article out there isn't going to seek truth but it could have a negative affect.

That being said - so far I think they've done a decent job. I prefer they use what has already been written rather than reinventing the wheel. There is a lot of great information here. I am also glad that they didn't move right to the DD on LKL comparison (unless that is on page 2). Even though I think MJ is DD on LKL - it makes us look crazy to those who need more valid confirmation.

I hope this continues to go well. We cannot go backwards, only forwards. I think it's even better that we are not getting paid for this. That way nobody can come back and accuse us of ulterior motive, no matter if the money would go to charity or not. Blessings.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 03, 2011, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.

They did use my article, from the homepage, which we have made with the collected info months ago. The editor didn't want to write himself, because he said we had put so much time in it, that we could do a much better job. So now he used the homepage.

Souza I cannot see anything when I open the page. thanks
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: voiceforthesilent on March 03, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.

They did use my article, from the homepage, which we have made with the collected info months ago. The editor didn't want to write himself, because he said we had put so much time in it, that we could do a much better job. So now he used the homepage.

Souza I cannot see anything when I open the page. thanks

There is only one page that can be viewed and it's copied above for you to read. Blessings.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 11:46:59 PM
voiceforthesilent, I am not going into a debate on this yet again, sorry. I did say he would do an article anyway wheter we would cooperate or not, but most were too busy bashing. I am only making a statement on this, since that issue has been one of the most disappointing parts of this hoax to me and I am still pissed about the way people thought they could treat me. I am not addressing everyone, those I mean know damn well themselves. People had the chance to actually control an article that would be published anyway, they passed and most did that in a very rude way shooting the messenger. That is the only thing I am going to say about this issue, I am done with this.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.

They did use my article, from the homepage, which we have made with the collected info months ago. The editor didn't want to write himself, because he said we had put so much time in it, that we could do a much better job. So now he used the homepage.

Souza I cannot see anything when I open the page. thanks

Which page?
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 04, 2011, 12:55:46 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Because of all the attacks, bashing, ridicule and hatin' I received, I told the editor I would not send him a piece, but because I think this needs to be out, I gave him permission to use the info on the website itself. Since I wrote it, I have the right to give anyone permission to use it. I had no control over the publishing, but as expected, the guy did a great job. I will ask him if he has more pages or that this is just a teaser. I will also ask him if the magazine is out already. Too bad, since now we don't get paid so no $$ to charity. I tried and I already said they would do a piece anyway. Good news is that the word is out again.

True.  I wondered if they used YOUR article, and was too lazy to search for it on here.  Can't wait to hear what info you get back from him.  I know that the word is really steeping lately.  Everyplace I turn I hear things about it.  The internet is swarming with "he's alive and hoax" things.  It seems the longer this goes on the more believe, that or more word is getting out.
 Maybe we can just contribute to a charity ourselves because that is TOO bad.

They did use my article, from the homepage, which we have made with the collected info months ago. The editor didn't want to write himself, because he said we had put so much time in it, that we could do a much better job. So now he used the homepage.

Souza I cannot see anything when I open the page. thanks

Which page?


It's ok I found it..
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 04, 2011, 10:30:06 AM
So, at the end this magazine will use the info after members are gone, bashings to each other has happened and no money for charity is achieved as a plus.

At least the magazine should donate something to a charity chosen by us.


Another thing I can´t not really get straight. "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored", is it the meaning that the hoax is a bunch of shit theories ignored by the media or what?. Please explain to me, I am not sure that I am understanding the meaning of that sentence in this context. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: PureLove on March 04, 2011, 12:28:02 PM
The content of the article is good but I agree with Gema that I didn't like the title "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored". So this is just a piece of junk and that is the reason why the media ignored it. It gives this meaning to the title. The content belongs to the forum but the title is such a shame. If I was someone who doesn't believe in the hoax, after I saw the title I wouldn't bother to read the article.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: trustno1 on March 04, 2011, 01:22:09 PM
I think it depends on whether English is your first language or not, I read it as meaning all the BS/contradictions/bizarre stories that surfaced after 25/6/09, that obviously didn't make sense and yet the media didn't question it.  I didn't interpret it as referring to the hoax or the hoax theories at all.  English speakers tend to use that word in a different context sometimes, almost in place of the word "stuff".  That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth!! ;)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 04, 2011, 02:14:09 PM
It's just like politics or politicians Souza

You can't please all of the people all of the time...or these days...you can't please hardly any of the people...LOL

Whatever.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: anewfan on March 04, 2011, 03:58:44 PM
I noticed that the magazine website has random tags on photos that have nothing to do with the tags, themselves. For instance, there were 2 pictures that had "Grammy's" as a tag and the pictures had nothing to do with the Grammy's. (or so it seemed)

Is this a common practice that websites do to generate traffic to their sites? (As you can tell, I don't know a whole lot about that sort of stuff.) I know that I get annoyed when I am searching for a certain topic and I'm taken to sites that have nothing to do with that topic.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 09, 2011, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
I think it's even better that we are not getting paid for this. That way nobody can come back and accuse us of ulterior motive, no matter if the money would go to charity or not. Blessings.
I absolutely agree.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 09, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
The content of the article is good but I agree with Gema that I didn't like the title "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored". So this is just a piece of junk and that is the reason why the media ignored it. It gives this meaning to the title. The content belongs to the forum but the title is such a shame. If I was someone who doesn't believe in the hoax, after I saw the title I wouldn't bother to read the article.
Just the word "shit" itself doesn't look good in the title - even if the meaning of the sentence would be right, which is not.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: kdkennedy74 on March 09, 2011, 12:24:44 PM
Souza, I for one do not have a problem with the fact that this is out. First and foremost it should make more people open their eyes and realize that the media does not give ALL of the facts and half the time their so called facts are just blatent lies. Beyond that, it gives recognition to you and all of the members here that have put in their time and efforts to try to make sense of this whole mess. If everyone were to read the article with an open mind I think that more and more people would begin to see what we see and stop calling us crazy, unrealistic, and whatever else they have been calling us.

I personally just want to say...GREAT JOB ON THIS ONE!!!!
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 09, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: "DREAMSandTRUTH"
Quote from: "PureLove"
The content of the article is good but I agree with Gema that I didn't like the title "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored". So this is just a piece of junk and that is the reason why the media ignored it. It gives this meaning to the title. The content belongs to the forum but the title is such a shame. If I was someone who doesn't believe in the hoax, after I saw the title I wouldn't bother to read the article.
Just the word "shit" itself doesn't look good in the title - even if the meaning of the sentence would be right, which is not.

So, how should be read the meaning then?
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: suspicious mind on March 09, 2011, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: "trustno1"
I think it depends on whether English is your first language or not, I read it as meaning all the BS/contradictions/bizarre stories that surfaced after 25/6/09, that obviously didn't make sense and yet the media didn't question it.  I didn't interpret it as referring to the hoax or the hoax theories at all.  English speakers tend to use that word in a different context sometimes, almost in place of the word "stuff".  That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth!! ;)

that is the way i am sure souza meant it when she wrote it (or was it mo :?  anyway). is interesting that there is a list of things there and that is what they chose to use. but it doesn't seem that bad. with all of the different theories and such floating around here sometimes we could do worse  :lol: . personally my biggest concern is that the distinction won't be made that every theory or half baked idea on here doesn't represent every person here.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MJonmind on March 09, 2011, 05:05:50 PM
Quote
trustno1 wrote:
I think it depends on whether English is your first language or not, I read it as meaning all the BS/contradictions/bizarre stories that surfaced after 25/6/09, that obviously didn't make sense and yet the media didn't question it. I didn't interpret it as referring to the hoax or the hoax theories at all. English speakers tend to use that word in a different context sometimes, almost in place of the word "stuff". That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth!!
I don't use vulgar language myself publicly, just the way I was raised. But I do think "shit" is a good word for the situation. Vulgar language used everywhere is just dumb, but well-placed has an effect like an explanation mark for emphasis or attention/conveying strong emotion. Many younger readers will pay more attention to and respect something with well-placed words like that. It also helps give a non-official flavor, as apposed to the main-stream news which carries the news that MJ died but in very clean language.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 09, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
If you have complaints about the article, I can't help you, sorry. I gave the editor permission to quote whatever is on the website and the blog (do not confuse with forum) and he used the parts on the index. As discussed in length before, we could have given him a new article, but that didn't seem to be possible.

I wrote 'shit' which is an understatement anyway, if I wouldn't have had my "try to be at least a little polite and professional mask" on, and wrote things REALLY from the heart as myself, I can assure you that the language would have been much worse. Nicer than shit is not possible, the guy would have had my blessing if he changed that to "all the mind fucking, deceiving, corrupt and fucked up crap". So I guess you should be glad that I am 'behind a mask' on here as well, it could have been way worse.  
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: suspicious mind on March 09, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
If you have complaints about the article, I can't help you, sorry. I gave the editor permission to quote whatever is on the website and the blog (do not confuse with forum) and he used the parts on the index. As discussed in length before, we could have given him a new article, but that didn't seem to be possible.

I wrote 'shit' which is an understatement anyway, if I wouldn't have had my "try to be at least a little polite and professional mask" on, and wrote things REALLY from the heart as myself, I can assure you that the language would have been much worse. Nicer than shit is not possible, the guy would have had my blessing if he changed that to "all the mind fucking, deceiving, corrupt and fucked up crap". So I guess you should be glad that I am 'behind a mask' on here as well, it could have been way worse.  

yep sometimes the nice words just don't get the job done  :lol:  ;)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 09, 2011, 06:49:27 PM
Quote
Quote
"all the mind fucking, deceiving, corrupt and fucked up crap". So I guess you should be glad that I am 'behind a mask' on here as well, it could have been way worse.


yep sometimes the nice words just don't get the job done :lol: ;)

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa!!!

 Some people can make the biggest deal out of totally nothing.

It is a statical fact that if you use curse words it is actually good for you. :mrgreen:

 Michael Jackson could curse with the best of them when he wanted too.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MJonmind on March 10, 2011, 02:04:27 AM
At 1:09  ;)
[youtube:73zzlaw6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5REvQZRXsw8&feature=related[/youtube:73zzlaw6]
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 10, 2011, 02:13:55 AM
Quote
MJonmind
At 1:09 ;)

Aha!
That was the first song of MJ's that came to mind when I made that comment.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 10, 2011, 11:56:03 AM
Quote
all the mind fucking, deceiving, corrupt and fucked up crap". So I guess you should be glad that I am 'behind a mask' on here as well, it could have been way worse.  So I guess you should be glad that I am 'behind a mask' on here as well, it could have been way worse.


 :lol:  :lol:  from that to shit.. that´s what I call synthesis capacity
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: lynnandsofee on March 10, 2011, 07:48:43 PM
I thought we were so concerned about the young people on here.  Sure, yea right
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 10, 2011, 07:53:14 PM
I don't know many young people that;
a] do not use curse word themselves
b] have not heard them.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 10, 2011, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
I thought we were so concerned about the young people on here.  Sure, yea right

There is one thing I really don't get. What are you still doing here? All you do is provoke, whine, and attack me. There are other hoax forums lynn, ones without the 'bad admin Souza'. Go there or stop your never-ending negativity.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: lynnandsofee on March 10, 2011, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
I don't know many young people that;
a] do not use curse word themselves
b] have not heard them.

You are unbelieveable.  You attack someone everytime they make a comment that does not suit you.  No one is attacking you !!!!!!!  I ask a simple question, what is your problem?????
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 10, 2011, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
I don't know many young people that;
a] do not use curse word themselves
b] have not heard them.

You are unbelieveable.  You attack someone everytime they make a comment that does not suit you.  No one is attacking you !!!!!!!  I ask a simple question, what is your problem?????
Pot -- Kettle -- Black

I have a gift for you:

(http://http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nvyR9eK0-X4/TUQXUBRI17I/AAAAAAAAAHo/M3fWAE0pZw8/s1600/mirror.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 10, 2011, 08:26:46 PM
Quote
Quote
lynnandsofee wrote:

    RunFaYaLife wrote:I don't know many young people that;
    a] do not use curse word themselves
    b] have not heard them.



You are unbelieveable. You attack someone everytime they make a comment that does not suit you. No one is attacking you !!!!!!! I ask a simple question, what is your problem?????

WHOAHA!
 Lynn you picked the wrong person to quote there ...
I am not on Souza's "A" list here.
I just calls it likes I sees it.

Quote
Pot -- Kettle -- Black

I have a gift for you:

Mebbe a crack would be the ticket.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 10, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
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MJonmind
At 1:09 ;)

Aha!
That was the first song of MJ's that came to mind when I made that comment.  :mrgreen:

Same here.

By the way so far so good on the article. Whether MJ wanted this or not we have to make the decisions ourselves since MJ isn't here to do that. I also hope these articles will be about MJ of course but more about the manipulation of the media in relation to MJ and other things.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 11, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
Quote from: "RunFaYaLife"
I don't know many young people that;
a] do not use curse word themselves
b] have not heard them.

You are unbelieveable.  You attack someone everytime they make a comment that does not suit you.  No one is attacking you !!!!!!!  I ask a simple question, what is your problem?????

She is giving her/ his opinion, not attacking you.

Why do you feel attacked? MTV is full of curse words i.e and many kids are stuck with MTV idols. Besides, shit, is a very natural and organical word  :D born within us  :D
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 11, 2011, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
There are other hoax forums lynn, ones without the 'bad admin Souza'

This quote made me  :lol:  :lol:

I hear ya! is not easy controlling the masses is it?
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: liegi on March 11, 2011, 01:11:34 PM
But this is the  most interesting forum.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: trustno1 on March 11, 2011, 02:14:21 PM
I haven't even visited the other forums, have no need to.  This one is dramatic, intriguing and thought-provoking enough!! ;) And the other forums surely would be more boring by comparison, they don't have a Souza!  As for the article, I think we may look back on it as a missed opportunity but at least the guys at Wonderwall seem to be living up to their promise so far.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: DREAMSandTRUTH on March 11, 2011, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "DREAMSandTRUTH"
Quote from: "PureLove"
The content of the article is good but I agree with Gema that I didn't like the title "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored". So this is just a piece of junk and that is the reason why the media ignored it. It gives this meaning to the title. The content belongs to the forum but the title is such a shame. If I was someone who doesn't believe in the hoax, after I saw the title I wouldn't bother to read the article.
Just the word "shit" itself doesn't look good in the title - even if the meaning of the sentence would be right, which is not.

So, how should be read the meaning then?
Hi Gema,
IMO the title can be misundertsood.
Can be read like you wrote:
Quote
Another thing I can´t not really get straight. "We are here to report all the shit media has ignored", is it the meaning that the hoax is a bunch of shit theories ignored by the media or what?. Please explain to me, I am not sure that I am understanding the meaning of that sentence in this context. Thanks.
or the way trustno1 wrote:
Quote
I think it depends on whether English is your first language or not, I read it as meaning all the BS/contradictions/bizarre stories that surfaced after 25/6/09, that obviously didn't make sense and yet the media didn't question it.

It's too late to suggest a different title, but I think the "We are here to report everything the media has ignored or misreported" would be a clearer version. Just my opinion.

By the way, when I first read the article, I thought only the article itself was quoted, and the title was made up by the editor - something that he thought we are here for. Well, I found it weird that he would speak in our names, but generally titles are not quoted, and the first two sentences are written by him, so I assumed the title was too... Basically I guessed that's why you guys didn't like it. Well, I misunderstood it a little  ;)
All in all, I thought it was him who wrote the word "shit", and that's why I said I didn't like it.
Now that I know it was written by Souza, it's okay by me - it's her site (and Mo's), she can choose any words she likes.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MissG on March 12, 2011, 08:36:16 PM
Thanks DREAMSandTRUTH
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: anewfan on April 05, 2011, 06:45:11 PM
So are they skipping the April edition of the magazine?
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 06, 2011, 02:32:12 AM
It's not a monthly magazine.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 09, 2011, 04:12:06 PM
The online version of the March Issue, which the editor sent me. They expect to put out part 2 in June.

http://www.yudu.com/item/details/309633 ... ---Issue-1 (http://www.yudu.com/item/details/309633/Wonderwall-Magazine---Issue-1)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 09, 2011, 06:41:03 PM
Thanks for the update. I'll be watching for it in June. Let's hope this hoax is about wrapped up by then...
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: anewfan on May 07, 2011, 11:19:43 PM
This is an ad on the Wonderwall Magazine website. It has the caption "Did Michael Fake his Death?" underneath it. It is actually on there twice. Once with the Michael caption and another time with the title that should belong to it. (Stylo Presents – Latin Fashion Queens Styloesmas.com Latin Fashion Queens - Styloesmas.com )

(http://http://wonderwallmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/entertain.jpg)
Viva La Revolucion

    Did Michael Fake his Death?

http://http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=211

It also says "Follow Wonderwall for the Secret Hidden Updates" in between articles. I wonder why the updates are going to be hidden?

http://http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=206
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: blankie on June 07, 2011, 05:41:21 PM
Everything and all those people because of which is escaped Mike...grrrrrrrrr :evil:  :cry: bleahhh... respect/



We are the world !!! :P   bearhug







 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: cookie4mj on March 30, 2012, 01:49:12 AM
Can anyone post the link of the article? I wanna read it but I am a new member:)
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: anewfan on April 07, 2012, 03:11:57 PM
http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=206 (http://wonderwallmagazine.com/?p=206)

I think this is the only article there is. There haven't been any other articles since May 2011 (that I know of).
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MJonmind on April 08, 2012, 05:33:57 AM
Well, that was short-lived then.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 09, 2012, 04:20:57 AM
Well, that was short-lived then.

thats ok... the 'real' news scoop that we are waiting for will NEVER be forgotten and be the most shocking in history!

 :multiplespotting: :multiplespotting: :multiplespotting:



re: bring from australia, the word SHIT in tittle (and apologies to God for typing that, as I no longer profane) i didnt read it as a negative... i think it is a language thing, that means it could be read in a negative way.... in australia we use the word shit all the time to describe good things...

for example, "im gonna go down to the supermarket to get some shit" (here "shit" means "stuff")

for example when smoking a joint, "thats good shit" (agan, "shit" meaning "stuff")

for example, "its ok, pull your shit together" (meaning get "yourself" together)

and finally...

for example, "after football practice, i am going to go home and wash my shit" (again, "shit" meaning "stuff")


so when i read the title of this article, i read it as "We are here to report all the stuff the media has ignored!!"


I didnt read it as though they were saying the actual content that they were reporting was Shit (negative) or BS...



edit. also no point debating it. but i think it would have been great to have full control over the article. both ways of doing it would have had pros and cons, but at least the site / forum would have been represented the right way.

edit II - and i dont think it would have put MJ in danger of being found... this is a mediocre magazine we talking about, not the CIA
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: MJonmind on April 09, 2012, 04:45:28 AM
Aussie  :icon_lol:
It's somewhat like that in Canada, but I would say it's used equally for both good and bad.

But MJ sang, "This time around I'm taking no shit."  That context is negative --mindgames, lies, manipulation, robbery, attempts at his assassination.
Title: Re: The Jackson Files -- WonderWall Magazine
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 09, 2012, 04:58:40 AM
But MJ sang, "This time around I'm taking no shit."  That context is negative --mindgames, lies, manipulation, robbery, attempts at his assassination.

yeah, get that... but i think in this case, not the song, but title of article, shit means stuff...

but look, even though i didnt read it as a negative, this very thread is a demonstration of how the colloquialism is subjective to the reader and ambiguous, dependnt on the audience.

so although i personally dont read it as a negative or offensive, a different title would have been a smarter option by editor to use to eliminate uncertainty and to open / attract a wider audience of people from various backgrounds who may not use the word in a positive manner.
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