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Title: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 02, 2011, 05:51:32 PM
Conrad Murray’s Trial Delayed Until May (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/03/02/conrad-murrays-trial-could-be-delayed/)
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — A judge has postponed the trial of a doctor charged in Michael Jackson’s death until early May.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor announced the delay Wednesday after meeting in chambers with prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Dr. Conrad Murray.

The move came after the judge asked defense attorneys at previous hearings why they hadn’t turned over more information on potential witnesses to prosecutors.

The trial had been scheduled to begin with jury selection on March 24.

Prospective jurors will be given questionnaires on that day, but opening statements are now set to begin on May 9.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: allforlove on March 02, 2011, 06:01:07 PM
Is this a positive thing? I really don't know anymore :?
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: geminigurl on March 02, 2011, 06:04:57 PM
About the jury selection - how on earth are they going to find jurors who don't know details about the charges and who don't already have an opinion on the guilt or innocence of the accused ?  I'd like to know what's in those questionnaires.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: Grace on March 02, 2011, 06:13:12 PM
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 02, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
I think I remember a post stating that  Michael may come back in May.. I am trying to find it but I can't. If one of you come across it, please post it here. I think the month of May Michael will be back.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: suspicious mind on March 02, 2011, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: "geminigurl"
About the jury selection - how on earth are they going to find jurors who don't know details about the charges and who don't already have an opinion on the guilt or innocence of the accused ?  I'd like to know what's in those questionnaires.


i'm more concerned about people who already have preconcieved notions about the victim :(
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on March 02, 2011, 06:47:31 PM
Quote from: "geminigurl"
About the jury selection - how on earth are they going to find jurors who don't know details about the charges and who don't already have an opinion on the guilt or innocence of the accused ?  I'd like to know what's in those questionnaires.


I really don't think it will be very hard.  I wasn't an active fan of Michael's in 2005.  I had a lot going on in my own life at the time, and didn't even hear about his trial until it was over.  Most people I know have no idea what is going on with Michael's death or Murray's trial.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PureLove on March 02, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
I don't like delays. :( That means we're going to wait some more and 2012 is so close. So this can mean his plan has nothing to do with 2012 if he doesn't come back this year.
:cry:
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PureLove on March 02, 2011, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
I think I remember a post stating that  Michael may come back in May.. I am trying to find it but I can't. If one of you come across it, please post it here. I think the month of May Michael will be back.

I do not think he will come back before the trial ends. :(
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on March 03, 2011, 03:18:18 AM
Shamone, guys! Two new singles are coming our way! They have to simmer until May!  8-)
The trial would be a distraction!   :lol:



Or at least I hope so...  :cry:
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: ignisaeternus on March 03, 2011, 06:37:01 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.

Which brings us to: See you in July

And REALLY big fireworks.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: Mj5StarChick on March 03, 2011, 06:58:43 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Quote from: "Grace"
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.

Which brings us to: See you in July

And REALLY big fireworks.
That gives us July 17th right?
Hmm well.....See You In July Michael lol :D
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 03, 2011, 07:58:20 AM
Can you imagine the "circus" at the courthouse surrounding the June 25th anniversary with all those people in L.A. :shock:
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: jacilovesmichael on March 03, 2011, 08:17:56 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Quote from: "Grace"
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.

Which brings us to: See you in July

And REALLY big fireworks.

Makes sense. No matter what anyone has said I've always felt like "See you in July" was it...THE clue. I don't know. I guess if it doesn't happen by July or in July of this year then I'll start to worry. I think after that might be too late considering everything we've gathered here. But I trust Mike knows what he's doing...
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: AnaMarcia on March 03, 2011, 08:19:19 AM
But TS said that we were less than a month to the beginning of the trial. Was there a change of plans in the last days?
Anyway, until May so much can happen! Including the signing of an agreement between Murray and justice!
I can only wait patiently and watch.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 09:29:14 AM
5/9 (=14=7/7) + 59 (=14=7/7) days is 7/7. Just a thought. 7/7/11 still makes perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PureLove on March 03, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Quote from: "Grace"
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.

Which brings us to: See you in July

And REALLY big fireworks.

How do we know the trial will last 60 days?
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: taty_2crazy on March 03, 2011, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Quote from: "Grace"
May 9 +60 days for trial.
Pointing to 25 months.

Which brings us to: See you in July

And REALLY big fireworks.

Makes sense. No matter what anyone has said I've always felt like "See you in July" was it...THE clue. I don't know. I guess if it doesn't happen by July or in July of this year then I'll start to worry. I think after that might be too late considering everything we've gathered here. But I trust Mike knows what he's doing...
Make your words mine!! ;)
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: jacilovesmichael on March 03, 2011, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
5/9 (=14=7/7) + 59 (=14=7/7) days is 7/7. Just a thought. 7/7/11 still makes perfect sense to me.

Same here.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: curls on March 03, 2011, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
5/9 (=14=7/7) + 59 (=14=7/7) days is 7/7. Just a thought. 7/7/11 still makes perfect sense to me.

Same here.

Since when did we think it makes sense to be guessing bam dates? Apart from raising hopes and having them dashed over and over, if I was MJ and saw people had guessed, I'd change it straight away!
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 03, 2011, 02:20:46 PM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
5/9 (=14=7/7) + 59 (=14=7/7) days is 7/7. Just a thought. 7/7/11 still makes perfect sense to me.

Same here.

Since when did we think it makes sense to be guessing bam dates? Apart from raising hopes and having them dashed over and over, if I was MJ and saw people had guessed, I'd change it straight away!

I don't see what's the problem with it. I have been trying to guess bamdates since july 2009, even though I never posted them. If people put all their hopes up for a date that only has been guessed by a hoaxers, then that would be pretty strange IMO. I am not saying it will be bamsday and I also don't care if it won't, just getting my thoughts out since people are already panicking that there is a delay. 7/7 could also mean something else, yet important, like the verdict.

And Mike could have guessed from the start that people would try and guess certain dates. If he would have to change it everytime the date is mentioned, then he made a mistake in his planning, or left to many clues.

There is no problem in guessing (bam)dates, as long as people don't put their faith in it.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: missy_missy on March 04, 2011, 06:00:15 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
5/9 (=14=7/7) + 59 (=14=7/7) days is 7/7. Just a thought. 7/7/11 still makes perfect sense to me.

Same here.

Since when did we think it makes sense to be guessing bam dates? Apart from raising hopes and having them dashed over and over, if I was MJ and saw people had guessed, I'd change it straight away!

I don't see what's the problem with it. I have been trying to guess bamdates since july 2009, even though I never posted them. If people put all their hopes up for a date that only has been guessed by a hoaxers, then that would be pretty strange IMO. I am not saying it will be bamsday and I also don't care if it won't, just getting my thoughts out since people are already panicking that there is a delay. 7/7 could also mean something else, yet important, like the verdict.

And Mike could have guessed from the start that people would try and guess certain dates. If he would have to change it everytime the date is mentioned, then he made a mistake in his planning, or left to many clues.

There is no problem in guessing (bam)dates, as long as people don't put their faith in it.


well said :)
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: infinatetrinity on March 04, 2011, 07:15:28 AM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
But TS said that we were less than a month to the beginning of the trial. Was there a change of plans in the last days?
Anyway, until May so much can happen! Including the signing of an agreement between Murray and justice!
I can only wait patiently and watch.


Lol TS doesn't know everything,TS was wrong,people need to think for themselves not just go by TS said this or TS said that.The delay is a great thing and also very much common in the United States.It just brings the closing of the trial closer or into July...
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PureLove on March 04, 2011, 11:40:21 AM
Quote from: "infinatetrinity"
It just brings the closing of the trial closer or into July...

I'm trying to understand what I missed. How does it bring the closing of the trial closer? How do we know the trial will last 60 days? What if it lasts longer than 60 days, a couple of months, a year? I would be appreciated if someone could explain this to me.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: RunFaYaLife on March 04, 2011, 01:22:53 PM
Where is this going to air does anyone know?

I hope I can get it.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: Dancer on March 04, 2011, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
I'm trying to understand what I missed. How does it bring the closing of the trial closer? How do we know the trial will last 60 days? What if it lasts longer than 60 days, a couple of months, a year? I would be appreciated if someone could explain this to me.

Maybe that's a misunderstanding? The 60 days were mentioned in many articles, but not concerning the length of the trial, but Murrays right to have a speedy trial within 60 days of his arraignment.

In many articles it was mentioned that they expect the trial to last approximately six weeks. So the delay brings us a bit closer to July.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: backstager on March 04, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
This will definitely be televised, right?

I tried to connect it with different scenarios in Michael's and Murray's life, and didn't get much.

As for the May 9, 2005 I only found this statement: "As the Defence started its first full week of presenting their case, current and ex-employees of Neverland Valley ranch took the stand yesterday to defend Michael Jackson and testify about the Arvizo family."...apparently, it was day 48 of Michael's trial.

And last year on May 9, TMZ found Murray at Joel Olsteen's church.

I don't know if it's significant or not, but I thought I'd just add it in.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: TheFunkMiser on March 05, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: "backstager"
This will definitely be televised, right?

I tried to connect it with different scenarios in Michael's and Murray's life, and didn't get much.

As for the May 9, 2005 I only found this statement: "As the Defence started its first full week of presenting their case, current and ex-employees of Neverland Valley ranch took the stand yesterday to defend Michael Jackson and testify about the Arvizo family."...apparently, it was day 48 of Michael's trial.

And last year on May 9, TMZ found Murray at Joel Olsteen's church.

I don't know if it's significant or not, but I thought I'd just add it in.

I'm just going to state my theory about the significance, if there is even any, of the start date of this trial, and the same date in 2005. "As the Defense started its first full week of presenting their case"... THEIR case. For the first couple of months, most of what was presented in the trial was mainly through the prosecutions point of view. Rarely did we ever hear the Defenses point of view, so this could have been a turning point - forgive me, I'm not quite sure because I'm a bit wobbily with keeping track of that particular timeline. But if it was, then that could somewhat be translated as the REAL trial happening. The real, actual truth, and none of Sneddon/Arvisos distorted mess. Michael and the defense could present their facts, and thus, the jury getting to see the real thing. Murrays trial, viewed through the hoax point of view, is really 2005 all over again. An innocent (black) man accused of something he never did, despite being beaten down by the media and the public. In the end, it's Michaels proof of how easily people can be mainpulated by the media. So techinically this is ALSO the beginning of Michaels trial.
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: PureLove on March 05, 2011, 10:26:01 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "PureLove"
I'm trying to understand what I missed. How does it bring the closing of the trial closer? How do we know the trial will last 60 days? What if it lasts longer than 60 days, a couple of months, a year? I would be appreciated if someone could explain this to me.

Maybe that's a misunderstanding? The 60 days were mentioned in many articles, but not concerning the length of the trial, but Murrays right to have a speedy trial within 60 days of his arraignment.

In many articles it was mentioned that they expect the trial to last approximately six weeks. So the delay brings us a bit closer to July.

Thank you so much for explaining it to me. Now I get it. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: May 9, 2011: Opening statements begin
Post by: paula-c on March 07, 2011, 11:20:41 AM
In May of 2005 was being carried out the trial of Michael
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