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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 07:28:01 PM

Title: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 07:28:01 PM
because I'm so happy. Ok I need to tell you why I felt this much sad and happy today. First of all the FBI files thing came today and they gave so many details about who is helping the LAPD etc and that worried me. And then I watched a vid and that convinced me that it was Michael himself at the 02 arena and I thought if they used body doubles in TII because Michael was dead and they used doubles to complete TII and to earn $$. I was seriously feeling terrible but just minutes ago I found a song by Paul Mccartney and Michael "The Man". Now I know why he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER". I'm sure that some of you already know the song. But after I found out the lyrics, I started to cry because now I'M SURE THAT HE'S ALIVE AND FREE and he won't come back because he did it to be free. I'm so happy and a little bit sad tho because we won't see him again. Ohh God I'm crying so badly. Pls forgive me if I'm giving you very old news or if this is stupid to you. Anyways here's the video and the lyrics of the song for the ones who don't know the song.

THE MAN

THERE'S A MAN,
WHO PLAYS THE GAME OF LIFE SO WELL,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HIS THOUGHTS YOU CAN NEVER TELL.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS, THEN ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THERE'S A MAN,
EV'RYBODY THOUGHT THEY KNEW,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HE'S NOT LIKE ME AND YOU.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
AND HE SAYS, "SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO ME."
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

DID YOU KNOW,
THIS MAN CAN DO ANYTHING?
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
I WISH THAT WE COULD BRING.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE, HOO! AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN, OH YEAH, OH YEAH,
THIS IS THE MAN,
THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN.

[youtube:o8tb7jy7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgim4YXLXk[/youtube:o8tb7jy7]
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: foralltime on December 19, 2009, 07:36:33 PM
I understand what your feelings are and there not stupid liberiangirl. It is all been a emotional rollercoaster just let it out. And yes maybe we won't ever see him again but as you already wrote he is free now and that should give a little comfort.
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 19, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
That is a great observation you have made, there is just a little part of me that thinks there is more to this than we can imagine. Could he really be thinking of a song so far back? perhaps. I don't think he is coming back and I never did but I just wish we had some concrete answers. As I said though this is a great observation especially with the wording at the memorial. What do others think?
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: "foralltime"
I understand what your feelings are and there not stupid liberiangirl. It is all been a emotional rollercoaster just let it out. And yes maybe we won't ever see him again but as you already wrote he is free now and that should give a little comfort.

Thank you. I'm still crying and I'm so happy for Michael. Finally he's free. I'm sure that he's happy too. And finally I can get a rest now. Seriously I haven't slept well for the last 5,5 months. I always looked for something to become sure that he's alive and now with all the other things I've found till today I'M SURE! I'm so relieved :)

I LOVE YOU MICHAEL. FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
That is a great observation you have made, there is just a little part of me that thinks there is more to this than we can imagine. Could he really be thinking of a song so far back? perhaps. I don't think he is coming back and I never did but I just wish we had some concrete answers. As I said though this is a great observation especially with the wording at the memorial. What do others think?

I'm pretty sure that he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER" on purpose because he might think that we could find this song. I mean look at the lyrics. It fits perfectly to Michael. He was giving us clues to this hoax in lots of songs like Smooth Criminal, Excape, Morphine...
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: foralltime on December 19, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
That is a great observation you have made, there is just a little part of me that thinks there is more to this than we can imagine. Could he really be thinking of a song so far back? perhaps. I don't think he is coming back and I never did but I just wish we had some concrete answers. As I said though this is a great observation especially with the wording at the memorial. What do others think?

It is a great obsevation but at the same time for me also confusing. I'm also wondering if he could go back this far but the fact is that we al saw the memorial with the cryptic words who are also is this song.
As for him not coming back I don't think he will,he really is staying out of public. If it was by choise or if he was forced to I don't know.
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 19, 2009, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
That is a great observation you have made, there is just a little part of me that thinks there is more to this than we can imagine. Could he really be thinking of a song so far back? perhaps. I don't think he is coming back and I never did but I just wish we had some concrete answers. As I said though this is a great observation especially with the wording at the memorial. What do others think?

I'm pretty sure that he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER" on purpose because he might think that we could find this song. I mean look at the lyrics. It feets perfectly to Michael. He was giving us clues to this hoax in lots of songs like Smooth Criminal, Excape, Morphine...
Yes you are right, it does seem too much of a coincidence. I am going to sleep on it and have another think about it tomorrow. After nearly 6 months of this and feeling like a zombie in Thriller (and probably looking like one!) I am becoming very cynical and a bit of a sceptic- I need a slap lol! I sincerely hope you have found peace and comfort with your findings and I do think you have hit the nail on the head stating that Michael wanted peace, not forgetting his age and the need for some solace at last in his life. I cannot imagine how it was for him always been watched by the paps-even when he escaped to Bahrain. The wording is actually amazing when you think about it. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: teensy on December 19, 2009, 08:08:48 PM
Thanks for posting the song and the lyrics, LiberianGirl! That seems to be a definity clue. The line is said more than once in the song, not a one-time random thing.

Does anybody remember this song before his death? I never looked up his and Paul's duets or heard any others, besides TGIM and Say, Say, Say.

Though, I'm not saying it didn't exist before either. Just curious.  :)
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
That is a great observation you have made, there is just a little part of me that thinks there is more to this than we can imagine. Could he really be thinking of a song so far back? perhaps. I don't think he is coming back and I never did but I just wish we had some concrete answers. As I said though this is a great observation especially with the wording at the memorial. What do others think?

I'm pretty sure that he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER" on purpose because he might think that we could find this song. I mean look at the lyrics. It feets perfectly to Michael. He was giving us clues to this hoax in lots of songs like Smooth Criminal, Excape, Morphine...
Yes you are right, it does seem too much of a coincidence. I am going to sleep on it and have another think about it tomorrow. After nearly 6 months of this and feeling like a zombie in Thriller (and probably looking like one!) I am becoming very cynical and a bit of a sceptic- I need a slap lol! I sincerely hope you have found peace and comfort with your findings and I do think you have hit the nail on the head stating that Michael wanted peace, not forgetting his age and the need for some solace at last in his life. I cannot imagine how it was for him always been watched by the paps-even when he escaped to Bahrain. The wording is actually amazing when you think about it. Thanks for sharing.

I don't know if he was planning to make a hoax death when he sang this song with Paul but I'm pretty sure that he used the lyrics of this song at the memorial on purpose because it fits with his situation so perfectly.

This thing was a big slap to me and I feel so much relieved :) I'm in peace, Michael is in peace so what else can I want? I just hope you all find peace and become 100% sure that he's alive like me. It's such a great feeling. And I'm glad if I could help you guys with this song. Goodnight Harley. It's 4.12am here. I think I need to get some sleep too :) Goodnight all. Sweet MJ dreams to you. I LOVE YOU ALL. Thank you so much for being on my side on this amazing journey. It was pleasure. :)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 19, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
@LiberianGirl-you sound as if you are leaving, please don't leave us! I am happy you have found what you are looking for but we need you. We need you to tell us all if we are barking up the wrong tree etc! If you are thinking of leaving because of your now settled mind please reconsider and if you are not thats great! maybe I have just got the wrong idea. Night night-sweet dreams-and I know who you will be dreaming of!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: billiejean17 on December 19, 2009, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
because I'm so happy. Ok I need to tell you why I felt this much sad and happy today. First of all the FBI files thing came today and they gave so many details about who is helping the LAPD etc and that worried me. And then I watched a vid and that convinced me that it was Michael himself at the 02 arena and I thought if they used body doubles in TII because Michael was dead and they used doubles to complete TII and to earn $$. I was seriously feeling terrible but just minutes ago I found a song by Paul Mccartney and Michael "The Man". Now I know why he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER". I'm sure that some of you already know the song. But after I found out the lyrics, I started to cry because now I'M SURE THAT HE'S ALIVE AND FREE and he won't come back because he did it to be free. I'm so happy and a little bit sad tho because we won't see him again. Ohh God I'm crying so badly. Pls forgive me if I'm giving you very old news or if this is stupid to you. Anyways here's the video and the lyrics of the song for the ones who don't know the song.

THE MAN

THERE'S A MAN,
WHO PLAYS THE GAME OF LIFE SO WELL,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HIS THOUGHTS YOU CAN NEVER TELL.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS, THEN ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THERE'S A MAN,
EV'RYBODY THOUGHT THEY KNEW,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HE'S NOT LIKE ME AND YOU.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
AND HE SAYS, "SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO ME."
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

DID YOU KNOW,
THIS MAN CAN DO ANYTHING?
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
I WISH THAT WE COULD BRING.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE, HOO! AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN, OH YEAH, OH YEAH,
THIS IS THE MAN,
THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN.

[youtube:1ggtv21m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgim4YXLXk[/youtube:1ggtv21m]





Please do not feel sad, i understand how you are feeling  Michael is free at last, this is a great observation
i wish we knew that he is happy and healthy.
I know in my heart Michael will never come back i didn't ever expect him to...
Hugs xxx
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
@LiberianGirl-you sound as if you are leaving, please don't leave us! I am happy you have found what you are looking for but we need you. We need you to tell us all if we are barking up the wrong tree etc! If you are thinking of leaving because of your now settled mind please reconsider and if you are not thats great! maybe I have just got the wrong idea. Night night-sweet dreams-and I know who you will be dreaming of!!!  :lol:

I thought that you were going to sleep but you're still here. Oops I was supposed to sleep too See I can not leave you  :lol:  No No I'm not going anywhere. I just wanted to say those. I'm not a person who keeps to herself what she feels and thinks. I like to say at that moment when I feel or think about something :D And it wasn't a farewell :D Let's share Michael in our dreams. G'Night! Seriously this time lol  :lol:
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: "billiejean17"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
because I'm so happy. Ok I need to tell you why I felt this much sad and happy today. First of all the FBI files thing came today and they gave so many details about who is helping the LAPD etc and that worried me. And then I watched a vid and that convinced me that it was Michael himself at the 02 arena and I thought if they used body doubles in TII because Michael was dead and they used doubles to complete TII and to earn $$. I was seriously feeling terrible but just minutes ago I found a song by Paul Mccartney and Michael "The Man". Now I know why he used "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER". I'm sure that some of you already know the song. But after I found out the lyrics, I started to cry because now I'M SURE THAT HE'S ALIVE AND FREE and he won't come back because he did it to be free. I'm so happy and a little bit sad tho because we won't see him again. Ohh God I'm crying so badly. Pls forgive me if I'm giving you very old news or if this is stupid to you. Anyways here's the video and the lyrics of the song for the ones who don't know the song.

THE MAN

THERE'S A MAN,
WHO PLAYS THE GAME OF LIFE SO WELL,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HIS THOUGHTS YOU CAN NEVER TELL.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS, THEN ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THERE'S A MAN,
EV'RYBODY THOUGHT THEY KNEW,
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
HE'S NOT LIKE ME AND YOU.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY SHE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
AND HE SAYS, "SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO ME."
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

DID YOU KNOW,
THIS MAN CAN DO ANYTHING?
OO, THERE'S SUCH A MAN,
I WISH THAT WE COULD BRING.
OO, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
THEN HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

AND IT'S JUST THE WAY HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE,
'CAUSE THE DAY HAS COME FOR HIM TO BE FREE,
AND HE LAUGHS, HE KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES,
I'M ALIVE, HOO! AND I'M HERE FOREVER,
THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN, OH YEAH, OH YEAH,
THIS IS THE MAN,
THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN, THIS IS THE MAN.

THIS IS THE MAN.

[youtube:2xlf3sma]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgim4YXLXk[/youtube:2xlf3sma]





Please do not feel sad, i understand how you are feeling  Michael is free at last, this is a great observation
i wish we knew that he is happy and healthy.
I know in my heart Michael will never come back i didn't ever expect him to...
Hugs xxx

Thank you so so much hon. Hugs back at you xoxoxo
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: billiejean17 on December 19, 2009, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
@LiberianGirl-you sound as if you are leaving, please don't leave us! I am happy you have found what you are looking for but we need you. We need you to tell us all if we are barking up the wrong tree etc! If you are thinking of leaving because of your now settled mind please reconsider and if you are not thats great! maybe I have just got the wrong idea. Night night-sweet dreams-and I know who you will be dreaming of!!!  :lol:

I thought that you were going to sleep but you're still here. Oops I was supposed to sleep too See I can not leave you  :lol:  No No I'm not going anywhere. I just wanted to say those. I'm not a person who keeps to herself what she feels and thinks. I like to say at that moment when I feel or think about something :D And it wasn't a farewell :D Let's share Michael in our dreams. G'Night! Seriously this time lol  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:41:19 PM
OMG I found a picture from the memorial. I haven't seen this one before. Harley if you haven't slept yet, don't sleep now girl  :lol:

I'm posting hold on pls :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:44:44 PM
Ok I found this picture btw the Memorial pictures. I haven't seen it before so I thought that I should share it with you. Happy LAPD lol  :lol:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/35i3l3l.jpg)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: B-LIEves on December 19, 2009, 08:48:17 PM
I was 50/50 about a comeback, but lately I'm leaning more towards the idea he wont. Sometimes I think of myself as selfish in hopes that he will, but now I think differently. He has given so much to the fans and to the world over the decades with his music and humanitarian work and I think the time for him to be free has been long overdue and he truly deserves it. If anything I think it's time to give back by respecting his freedom and continuing to spread his message of L.O.V.E. Awesome post Liberian Girl, that was a great find! Happy Holidays to everyone!
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 19, 2009, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ok I found this picture btw the Memorial pictures. I haven't seen it before so I thought that I should share it with you. Happy LAPD lol  :lol:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/35i3l3l.jpg)
Thanks for that. They all look very happy!  :lol:
Am finding it hard to leave this site and get myself off to bed! Very addictive eh? Thought I would have a look on here for a half hour and that was 2 and half hours ago! Night night all.  :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on December 19, 2009, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ok I found this picture btw the Memorial pictures. I haven't seen it before so I thought that I should share it with you. Happy LAPD lol  :lol:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/35i3l3l.jpg)

Gee everyone seems to have a ball again :shock:  :lol:  :lol:

And LiberianGirl,I'm glad that you feel at peace and that you are not leaving us ;)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ok I found this picture btw the Memorial pictures. I haven't seen it before so I thought that I should share it with you. Happy LAPD lol  :lol:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/35i3l3l.jpg)
Night night all.  :D
Reaaaaly? lol  :lol:
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 19, 2009, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ok I found this picture btw the Memorial pictures. I haven't seen it before so I thought that I should share it with you. Happy LAPD lol  :lol:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/35i3l3l.jpg)

Gee everyone seems to have a ball again :shock:  :lol:  :lol:

And LiberianGirl,I'm glad that you feel at peace and that you are not leaving us ;)

Thank you, no I'm not going anywhere. It's almost 5am and I'm still here.  :lol:

Seriously G'night to you all. Love you all guys.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: teensy on December 19, 2009, 09:21:50 PM
Why is that picture radiating happiness? This is at an memorial that, IMHO, wasn't cheerful and was confusing to watch.  :?  That picture is so odd.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: bec on December 19, 2009, 09:42:47 PM
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: techdiva on December 19, 2009, 10:05:32 PM
Yes, I agree that MJ is coming back. Like he said in TII "I will come in my own time." I think he wants to make sure it is safe for him to come back.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: StripedFeline on December 19, 2009, 10:19:51 PM
Boy, I have to say I personally disagree about him doing all of this for the purpose of freedom. Yes, he has been through the shit, and fuck knows how he felt about the media punching him in the face like that with all their ludicrous stories. But doesn't he live and breath music? Didn't he mention he wanted to move onto other projects (making movies)? I doubt he could do that in hiding?! Michael found freedom in his music and put his all into it because that's his LIFE. But hey, that's just my own input.
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Crescendo on December 20, 2009, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

I don't know if he was planning to make a hoax death when he sang this song with Paul but I'm pretty sure that he used the lyrics of this song at the memorial on purpose because it fits with his situation so perfectly.

thats what i was thinking.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on December 20, 2009, 03:10:01 AM
I agree with you Bec! He'll be back. Look at the facts: do you think he would choose to fake his death after not only announcing but only weeks ahead performing his concerts, after giving hope to his fans with the comeback? This is cruel! He could have done it before, when all was quiet.
On the other hand, do you think he's happy and feeling free knowing he hurt so many people who love him, reading of all the hurt....I don't know!
If he is indeed alive, he'll be back WHEN he is ready! This may not be when we expect him to be!
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 20, 2009, 03:31:02 AM
I know how you are feeling. ''The Man'' was my favourite MJ song when I was 14... It was when I rediscovered Michael and when I was obsessed with him.. I remember hearing this song in spring time so everytime I hear it today it symbolises spring and better times. Its bitter sweet and I remember seeing the text ''Im alive and Im here forever'' and I remember thinking immediately that the text was taken from his song.. Personally my favourite song. Bittersweet. We miss him so much.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: lisap27 on December 20, 2009, 03:46:52 AM
@LiberianGirl

thanks for this post!! i think its great when you find something like this and share it!! its been so disheartening when people say they've found what they wanted.. don't tell us and leave!!

where not all as good at being sherlock as some others so i really appreciate your findings and everyone else's!!  so thanks from me.. :) *hands up & claps*
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: rag doll on December 20, 2009, 03:51:56 AM
The context of this special quote was new to me - thank you for bringing it up!
Please don´t cry, I think it´s no reason to be sad - quite the opposite.

This shows, like many little "hints" before - that everything is very well thought-out.
Many random details are not so incidental on the second glance - that speaks for a plan.

A plan, Michael has a hand in - and the ending is still open... - keep the faith! ***
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 20, 2009, 03:55:58 AM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Yes, I agree that MJ is coming back. Like he said in TII "I will come in my own time." I think he wants to make sure it is safe for him to come back.
:D i do believe he will come back maybe not on stage but we will see him again FREE from his old life FREE to begin a new life keep the faith :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: juliet on December 20, 2009, 04:55:27 AM
LIBERIANGIRL, thanks for your thoughts on this.  Actually, I've been listening to that song because of the Memorial Quote - "I'M ALIVE AND HERE FOREVER".  That song kept me going because IMO the lyrics of the song tells me that "HE CAN DO ANYTHING". People think that they know him with all the maligning/defamation but they don't know him at all that he just LAUGHS AND KICKS AND ROLLS UP HIS SLEEVES - because he is alive and can handle things.  Nothing will/can stop him.  That's what I feel.  So, I'll sit back and maybe roll up my sleeves,too, and wait for him to personally say what had happened and tell us his future plans for himself and his 3 children.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: steffmaster1 on December 20, 2009, 07:49:19 AM
i agree hell come back he always goes one better doesnt he and i think the ending after the credits was confirmation he will be back as he said have faith and be patient xxxx
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 20, 2009, 08:02:18 AM
I agree with LiberianGirl, he wants peace. She explained it all. He isn't coming back, he cant. How long are you guys going to wait?
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: peggysu2 on December 20, 2009, 08:18:43 AM
theres a man everybody thought they knew  :?:  :?:

words similar to this is it poster  :!:  :!:

everything fits together.. :)  :)

well done...

i dont know what to think about him coming back..but i think he says in the song hes in peace   :)

as long as hes happy with his children..i dont mind if he doesnt come back..

we all know hes alive  :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: liril on December 20, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.
I agree..100%
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Lou on December 20, 2009, 08:35:33 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.

Bec, I think we are a minority, but I totally agree with you. I get so sad when I read people assuring that "he won't come back", because I know that only the dead never comeback... I find it so sad when I imagine him living a secluded life, unable to lead a normal life because the world thinks he's dead... thank you so much for your words, I was getting so depressed today...
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Kirsche on December 20, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
I really don't know, if he will come back.....One day I ask myself, why should he come back after he done this?? Yeah, he left clues for us, but maybe just to let us know, that he's okay and that we don't have to worry, you know?

But then another day I think, he will come back... and I really hope, he will, but I understand, if he will not....I'm very excited about BAMSDAY! (Whenever it will be)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: ilprincipe on December 20, 2009, 08:54:00 AM
If he wouldn't come back he had never agreed to do ANY concerts or anything else (like TII) to be in the spotlight again...he had a very quiet life the last years. So no need to
hoax his death just to get some peace.

So I really think we ain't seen nothing..just to remind you...
he wanted to do something big....that our jaws will drop on the floor..
can't wait for it :)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Eva R on December 20, 2009, 09:05:18 AM
Like Mike said in TII to us: Thank you for your patient. Don't be scared :)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: anotherpartofme on December 20, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
If he wouldn't come back he had never agreed to do ANY concerts or anything else (like TII) to be in the spotlight again...he had a very quiet life the last years. So no need to
hoax his death just to get some peace.

So I really think we ain't seen nothing..just to remind you...
he wanted to do something big....that our jaws will drop on the floor..
can't wait for it :)

I agree..100%
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Kirsche on December 20, 2009, 09:19:47 AM
Quote from: "anotherpartofme"
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
If he wouldn't come back he had never agreed to do ANY concerts or anything else (like TII) to be in the spotlight again...he had a very quiet life the last years. So no need to
hoax his death just to get some peace.

So I really think we ain't seen nothing..just to remind you...
he wanted to do something big....that our jaws will drop on the floor..
can't wait for it :)

I agree..100%


So, did I get you right, that you think, that he did this announcement to "prepare" us about what is going to come?
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 20, 2009, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "bec"
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.

Bec, I think we are a minority, but I totally agree with you. I get so sad when I read people assuring that "he won't come back", because I know that only the dead never comeback... I find it so sad when I imagine him living a secluded life, unable to lead a normal life because the world thinks he's dead... thank you so much for your words, I was getting so depressed today...
But he has been unable to lead a "normal life" for most of his life. Do you not think he has been living a secluded life up to his "death"? he was hardly free to go and do what he wanted was he? Be realistic- has he ever had what you call a normal life with round the clock paps waiting to pounce? hoards of fans pursuing him, surging forward in great hoards every time they caught a glimpse of him? He could hardly sneeze without it being in the tabloids!
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: mjjveritas on December 20, 2009, 09:51:07 AM
I have rediscovered this song "The Man" from Paul McCartney's "Pipes Of Peace" album. I too remember it from my early teens.  I especially like when MJ sings towards the climax of the song "this is the man" in a much higher range than the earlier part of the song. MJ is just such an outstanding vocalist.
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Lou on December 20, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "bec"
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.

Bec, I think we are a minority, but I totally agree with you. I get so sad when I read people assuring that "he won't come back", because I know that only the dead never comeback... I find it so sad when I imagine him living a secluded life, unable to lead a normal life because the world thinks he's dead... thank you so much for your words, I was getting so depressed today...
But he has been unable to lead a "normal life" for most of his life. Do you not think he has been living a secluded life up to his "death"? he was hardly free to go and do what he wanted was he? Be realistic- has he ever had what you call a normal life with round the clock paps waiting to pounce? hoards of fans pursuing him, surging forward in great hoards every time they caught a glimpse of him? He could hardly sneeze without it being in the tabloids!

Hi Harleyblonde, I see what you mean... but it hurts me when I think that if he's alive, he will live as a kind of a "fugitive", 'cause I don't see how one can be happy living like this. When I try to imagine what's like to live in hiding when (almost) the whole world thinks you're dead, I find it a very difficult thing to be done, and then I have two options left: either somehow he'll have the right means to reappear or he's really passed away... That's why these thoughts make me sad. Hope I made some sense here.  :)
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: Eva R on December 20, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "bec"
Of course he's coming back. If he wasn't he'd just be gone.... no clues... no suspicious circumstances.... no inconsistancies. Just gone.

Don't worry. Just be patient. Let it simmer.

Bec, I think we are a minority, but I totally agree with you. I get so sad when I read people assuring that "he won't come back", because I know that only the dead never comeback... I find it so sad when I imagine him living a secluded life, unable to lead a normal life because the world thinks he's dead... thank you so much for your words, I was getting so depressed today...
TOTALLY AGREED!!  :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: kpnuts on December 20, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Remember Michael's words in This is It..

'It's an adventure, a great adventure...'

I personally think we're in for one hell of a ride ( it's already started )!

Bring it on....!
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 20, 2009, 03:11:15 PM
Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts. I have a NEW idea about his comeback and I'll make a new post about it. Actually its about the kids but related to his comeback. I thought a lot about the issue and I will share with you all. And pls nobody needs to be sad when people say that he will come back or he won't come back. Everyone is sharing their thoughts. No need to be mad or sad ;) You can write what you think about his comeback also on my other post with the name of He's coming back or not. Thank you all but I'm still so happy after I found this song  :D
Title: Re: YOU SHOULD SEE THIS. I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 20, 2009, 03:49:54 PM
Pls read this post and tell me what you think :)

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1833 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1833)
Title: Re: I'm crying so bad at the moment
Post by: MJLOVER32 on December 22, 2009, 09:07:21 AM
Quote from: "foralltime"
I understand what your feelings are and there not stupid liberiangirl. It is all been a emotional rollercoaster just let it out. And yes maybe we won't ever see him again but as you already wrote he is free now and that should give a little comfort.

I too believe that he is alive, but still cry as though he is dead sometimes, as that is what has been sold to the world. I just hope that he truly is, i mean yes there is alot of evidence that supports him being alive but we obviously havent seen him. keep ur head up and keep the faith!!
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