Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael's features, habits & disguises => Topic started by: all4loveandbelieve on January 29, 2011, 02:47:19 PM
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I don't remember this ever being posted, if so sorry please lock it. I never heard of this. Did any one hear that Michael got operated days before his death? This is really weird.
Don't forget it was reported by Diane Dimond she is not very likedUs Magazine reports that, just days before his death last Thursday, Michael Jackson underwent an operation to have a cancerous lesion removed from his nose.
In an interview on June 26, the day after Jackson’s death following cardiac arrest, former Court TV reporter Diane Dimond told the magazine, “Last week, I had two real sources call me and say he’s getting surgery right now for removal of skin cancer off his nose…This is not a man who suffers pain well. He likes painkillers. So he got some from here, he got some from there—who knows how much.”
(Yesterday, it was reported that Jackson, would use aliases in order to obtain prescriptions—including the pain-killer Demerol—from various pharmacies.)
Could Jackson’s aversion to pain in the face of surgery have played a part in his untimely death? Hopefully, as the investigation unfolds, the answer will be made clear.
http://www.celebuzz.com/michael-jackson ... e-s116691/ (http://www.celebuzz.com/michael-jackson-operation-days-before-s116691/)
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If it happened and if he were dead it would have been in the autopsy report which it was not so I guess Diane is a lying toad as usual.
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but it did seem like in the pic where he is watching the performance that there is something of that nature on his face.
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Diane DEMon is not someone I would trust. How did she get that info? a leak from the hospital staff? well, could be and that is why there is a trial.
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These types of procedures are outpatient procedures. People get these types of growths removed every day. Please don't allow Diane Dimond or the media to blow this into something bigger than it is. I, for one, don't buy into this and if the family or if Michael himself confirms it, fine. Until then it's speculation. Blessings.
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If it happened and if he were dead it would have been in the autopsy report which it was not so I guess Diane is a lying toad as usual.
Didnt the autopsy say that there was a piece of gauze on the tip of the nose?
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What has happened to his nose is he has has too many surgeries and the skin is no longer viable , it is obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that the cartilage structure at the end of his nose has collapsed and a plastic support has been put in. He has had this revised several times) at one point he looked like he had a stick in the end of it) so he has a had a skin graft to try to make it look better.
I had a nose job years ago and they told me three things can happen, 1. It can get an infection 2. It can feel lumpy but look straight and 3. It can totally collapse. I asked if it totally collapsed could they fix it, they said yes they could put in a plastic bridge but if the cartilage was compromised then that was very difficult to reconstruct and may take several operations to get the desired result and may not ever look how you want it to.
When I look at Michaels nose, this seems to me what may have happened.
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What has happened to his nose is he has has too many surgeries and the skin is no longer viable , it is obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that the cartilage structure at the end of his nose has collapsed and a plastic support has been put in. He has had this revised several times) at one point he looked like he had a stick in the end of it) so he has a had a skin graft to try to make it look better.
I had a nose job years ago and they told me three things can happen, 1. It can get an infection 2. It can feel lumpy but look straight and 3. It can totally collapse. I asked if it totally collapsed could they fix it, they said yes they could put in a plastic bridge but if the cartilage was compromised then that was very difficult to reconstruct and may take several operations to get the desired result and may not ever look how you want it to.
When I look at Michaels nose, this seems to me what may have happened.
Exactly my point, it is probably more trying to fix his nose than skn cancer. Wasn.'t Arnie trying to fix his nose/ That's what he said in some interview.
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Yes he was putting fillers in it apparently, now if it was him at the O2 then yes the fillers worked, you can still see the skin grafts to the side of the nostrils but the structure looks better. Maybe that silly Karen woman was not with him and he had human coloured make-up too!
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Yes he was putting fillers in it apparently, now if it was him at the O2 then yes the fillers worked, you can still see the skin grafts to the side of the nostrils but the structure looks better. Maybe that silly Karen woman was not with him and he had human coloured make-up too!
Karen Faye has confirmed that she didnt go to London with him on that trip. The only time she was with him was the TII rehearsals, she didnt go to London with him for the announcement.
No one seems to know who was doing his make-up for this visit... maybe he did it himself?
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Yes he was putting fillers in it apparently, now if it was him at the O2 then yes the fillers worked, you can still see the skin grafts to the side of the nostrils but the structure looks better. Maybe that silly Karen woman was not with him and he had human coloured make-up too!
Karen Faye has confirmed that she didnt go to London with him on that trip. The only time she was with him was the TII rehearsals, she didnt go to London with him for the announcement.
No one seems to know who was doing his make-up for this visit... maybe he did it himself?
I am sure it did say gauze on his nose in the autopsy report and he did have what looked like a plaster over his nose in tii
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I am sure it did say gauze on his nose in the autopsy report and he did have what looked like a plaster over his nose in tii
Oooh.. really? Have you a picture i could see? Ive not seen the plaster on his nose in TII xx
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I am sure it did say gauze on his nose in the autopsy report and he did have what looked like a plaster over his nose in tii
Oooh.. really? Have you a picture i could see? Ive not seen the plaster on his nose in TII xx
I dont have the picture but i do remember there was talk about his nose and it looked like he had a plaster over it sideways it might have been at the 02 I will have to think when it was
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I cant find the picture now i know i saw it but I cant remember where
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ummm and all this guessing is about Michael?? Maybe it's the double :)))
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If he had an operation before his death he wouldn't have made the last day of rehearsals in which KO said he was looking forward to next day's "illusion" rehearsals. I really and truly think that when he fell and broke his nose, he went to have reconstructive surgery and said yes, make it a bit smaller because of his father's ridicule. But the surgeon did a crappy job, enabled him to breathe correctly so he had to have a second surgery done. Cartilage has limited repair capabilities: Because chondrocytes are bound in lacunae, they cannot migrate to damaged areas. Therefore if damaged, it is difficult to heal. Also, because hyaline cartilage does not have a blood supply, the deposition of new matrix is slow. That would explain the scar tissue around his nose and the fact that the blood circulation was a big risk and I do not think he would take such a big risk knowing that he wasn't going to go on these concerts anyway and everyone was going to believe him dead.
So if he then had another nose surgery it would not be guaranteed that he would be healed by the time the concerts started. So what's the point? Therefore; I do not believe this whatsoever. His nose looked the same 24 hours before he died as it did at his last appearance. The stupid "effiing" media set it out to be that he had so many surgeries to make himself look so many different ways when just one or two surgeries, after settling, can make you look completely different. They are all "effing" idiots and and think they are on to something... when you look at the reality of things they were actually predicting 2 months ahead of what they think the person should do when, it didn't happen, they had to come up with another lie, but society still believed and ran with it.
Sick. Sadistic, manipulative, money hungry people that need their hair ripped out...Hey, I got a boob job on Tuesday, I got a double EE apparently oh but no by Tuesday a month later I only got a D, but since I wasn't happy with it I got them to take it out to leave me with a C. In the meantime I'm sure while I was wearing different shirts to hide the swelling the media was going crazy on me getting them, taking them out, surgery scars, boob flops. etc
But come to find out I was only effing pregnant.
Gossip/Celebrity Journalism should NOT be a paid job. It is all based on a speculative opinion and YES people fall for that stuff. As a writer, it makes me sick.
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If he had an operation before his death he wouldn't have made the last day of rehearsals in which KO said he was looking forward to next day's "illusion" rehearsals. I really and truly think that when he fell and broke his nose, he went to have reconstructive surgery and said yes, make it a bit smaller because of his father's ridicule. But the surgeon did a crappy job, enabled him to breathe correctly so he had to have a second surgery done. Cartilage has limited repair capabilities: Because chondrocytes are bound in lacunae, they cannot migrate to damaged areas. Therefore if damaged, it is difficult to heal. Also, because hyaline cartilage does not have a blood supply, the deposition of new matrix is slow. That would explain the scar tissue around his nose and the fact that the blood circulation was a big risk and I do not think he would take such a big risk knowing that he wasn't going to go on these concerts anyway and everyone was going to believe him dead.
So if he then had another nose surgery it would not be guaranteed that he would be healed by the time the concerts started. So what's the point? Therefore; I do not believe this whatsoever. His nose looked the same 24 hours before he died as it did at his last appearance. The stupid "effiing" media set it out to be that he had so many surgeries to make himself look so many different ways when just one or two surgeries, after settling, can make you look completely different. They are all "effing" idiots and and think they are on to something... when you look at the reality of things they were actually predicting 2 months ahead of what they think the person should do when, it didn't happen, they had to come up with another lie, but society still believed and ran with it.
Sick. Sadistic, manipulative, money hungry people that need their hair ripped out...Hey, I got a boob job on Tuesday, I got a double EE apparently oh but no by Tuesday a month later I only got a D, but since I wasn't happy with it I got them to take it out to leave me with a C. In the meantime I'm sure while I was wearing different shirts to hide the swelling the media was going crazy on me getting them, taking them out, surgery scars, boob flops. etc
But come to find out I was only effing pregnant.
Gossip/Celebrity Journalism should NOT be a paid job. It is all based on a speculative opinion and YES people fall for that stuff. As a writer, it makes me sick.
When Oprah interviewed Katherine about the nose surgery, she said becuase his nose was too big. He never broke his nose, This was Katherine's words.
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Are we back again on "nose talking" ? :roll:
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I read or heard on Television that he did have a NON cancerous lesion removed off of his stomach.
Right now that is all I know about any lesion removals.
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I read or heard on Television that he did have a NON cancerous lesion removed off of his stomach.
Right now that is all I know about any lesion removals.
I wish they can get their story in order, because from his nose to his stomach big difference. It must be his nose with all the surgery he had. Or many nothing at all, maybe this was part of his hoax to through us off again.
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LMFAO, so Demon had a REAL source this time? She needs to go cook something and never touch a pen or computer anymore.
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Just before his "death" the UK tabloids were saying that he had lesions removed from his chest which he was paranoid about, but that they turned out to be non-cancerous. How they accessed his medical results they didn't mention, especially as they only just reported he had the lesions removed. Test results came through surprisingly quickly then. Utter nonsense as usual.
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Also ,if he's not dead, the AR must have been done on someone else anyway.
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Also ,if he's not dead, the AR must have been done on someone else anyway.
I've always thought that the AR was at least loosely based on Michael, particularly because it did mention some of his known scars, and more importantly, because it mentioned the black tattoo that he has on the front-top of his head. I figure some of those things had to be mentioned since enough people know about them that someone would have questioned why they weren't addressed. Unless whoever died in his place had the same tattoo done to make it more believable. If there really was another person who died, they really did a lot to help Michael.
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Also ,if he's not dead, the AR must have been done on someone else anyway.
I've always thought that the AR was at least loosely based on Michael, particularly because it did mention some of his known scars, and more importantly, because it mentioned the black tattoo that he has on the front-top of his head. I figure some of those things had to be mentioned since enough people know about them that someone would have questioned why they weren't addressed. Unless whoever died in his place had the same tattoo done to make it more believable. If there really was another person who died, they really did a lot to help Michael.
I don't think Mike is the one with the tattoo on his forehead, why would he? Mike doesn't have a long forehead, I think most people have a longer one. I don't think he's bald either, all Jacksons seem to have a head full of hair, except for Randy, who has a shaved head. The tattoo never made sense to me.
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The caveat is he did have Lupus which can make you lose your hair.
The thing is so what? Heck if I had his money I would do whatever it took
to look good...after all he was a major public figure.
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The caveat is he did have Lupus which can make you lose your hair.
The thing is so what? Heck if I had his money I would do whatever it took
to look good...after all he was a major public figure.
Yeah, with his money, if he was balding, he could have had a hair transplant, no need for a dark tattoo. Otherwise a good wig would do the trick. The tattoo simply doesn't make sense in any way.
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Well he did have permanent eyeliner and eye brows [hair loss on the eyebrows] sooooo he might have decided to go for it....the tat across the forehead.
:mrgreen:
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This was discussed before, but more interestingly, Diane mentions that "Joe and another family friend, probably Leonard Rowe, were at the house in the morning..?????? Well, the mystery continues to get better and better....and if the family already knew he was dead by 10.00am, then how did they all hear it on the radio ??????? I smell a huge rat, and coincidently, LAX was closed down for half an hour at 10.00am.........
viewtopic.php?f=253&t=12888&hilit=michael+was+dead+at+10am (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=12888&hilit=michael+was+dead+at+10am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhBz1Lh ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhBz1LhFow&feature=player_embedded)
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Well he did have permanent eyeliner and eye brows [hair loss on the eyebrows] sooooo he might have decided to go for it....the tat across the forehead.
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Oh right! Now that you point that out it all makes sense!! :?
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Interesting.
have never seen that Vid or needless to say...that thread.
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This was discussed before, but more interestingly, Diane mentions that "Joe and another family friend, probably Leonard Rowe, were at the house in the morning..?????? Well, the mystery continues to get better and better....and if the family already knew he was dead by 10.00am, then how did they all hear it on the radio ??????? I smell a huge rat, and coincidently, LAX was closed down for half an hour at 10.00am.........
viewtopic.php?f=253&t=12888&hilit=michael+was+dead+at+10am (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=12888&hilit=michael+was+dead+at+10am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhBz1Lh ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhBz1LhFow&feature=player_embedded)
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Well that's why Jermaine said my brother left us way before to the airport.. oh! no I mean hospital. (I do not remember word per word, you know what I mean) So he said it that he left to the airport. No need to watch the video.
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I don't recall autopsy desribes body stating neither lesion was removed from nose nor that there was a plastic as a part of the nose. This can mean Michael was not present during the autopsy.
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Yeah, a lot of that video is new to me and I'd watched the entire broadcast. But, I'm wondering if the family "knew" that morn and were on the way to LA, where they were and how long it would've taken to get there...when were they at the hospital? Had they left earlier? Or after he "died"? Also, while watching it back then, I remember Joe standing at the end of the drive saying to the reporter, "yeah, Murray called me first and told me and I said why haven't you called the paramedics first!! "... Now that statement has disappeared. I wish I'd recorded all that back then, as it was I was flipping channels, bouncing on the internet at the same time, answering the calls to me...YOU know!!
All the original statements, have been re scripted repeatedly....wonder why??? :))
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Yeah, a lot of that video is new to me and I'd watched the entire broadcast. But, I'm wondering if the family "knew" that morn and were on the way to LA, where they were and how long it would've taken to get there...when were they at the hospital? Had they left earlier? Or after he "died"? Also, while watching it back then, I remember Joe standing at the end of the drive saying to the reporter, "yeah, Murray called me first and told me and I said why haven't you called the paramedics first!! "... Now that statement has disappeared. I wish I'd recorded all that back then, as it was I was flipping channels, bouncing on the internet at the same time, answering the calls to me...YOU know!!
All the original statements, have been re scripted repeatedly....wonder why??? :))
you know what they say : if you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit ;)
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hey guys . looking at this video of michael going into the courtroom in his pj bottoms and jacket. look at the shirt he is wearing. is it like the one from the picture of the bloody shirt in the closet?
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I don´t beLIEve in anything Diane Demon says :x .
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Guys...Can you please explain what's on MJ's nose in this pic I got from TMZ...
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Guys...Can you please explain what's on MJ's nose in this pic I got from TMZ...
this is NOT mj..sorry :|
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This was during the Invincible era..when he did the signing event thing... :roll:
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The surgery was supposed to have happenned a week before his "death"..this pic is from the invincable album release.... :?
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Guys...Can you please explain what's on MJ's nose in this pic I got from TMZ...
i noticed this before. he doesn't seem to have anything like that when you see the interview that is supposed to be at this event (i think). also it seems like it is at the same time as the signing thing where that johanna chick ( is that her name ?) shows up and the little kid dressed in mj costume. it is anybodies guess what is goin' on here. :?
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Yes, I was just asking anybody who knows what is it in his nose area? I was also surprised to see this picture. Just trying to connect it with the post regarding the effects of too much surgery in the nose.. :cry:
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Guys...Can you please explain what's on MJ's nose in this pic I got from TMZ...
I have all these other pictures of that day and this is the only one with the weird thing on his nose, which looks like tape to alter the shape of the nose. Maybe mine are all photoshopped and this one isn't, or the other way around. I have never understood what happened here with his nose, most definitely not when we see his nose being back to normal in 2003, 2005 and 2009. I have pictures of the '00's Mike that matches the BAD-Mike perfectly, just a little older. That is why I can't understand certain pictures where he looks way different. As if he deliberately fueled the story about his nose falling off by using prostetic make-up and tape, because when I put the more recent pictures on the BAD Mike, absolutely nothing changed. Chin the same, mouth the same, eyes are a perfect match, nose has the same width overall. And why would he have changed his nose after BAD? It looked fine... With some pics I don't even have to overlap them in photoshop, because you can see it's him without doing that. Same guy if you forget about the hair and age. Like TMZ said: the eyes have it. But with some pictures I'm simply like :?
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I agree with you, Souza..Sometimes I see it as a mask, or a probably a prosthetic nose because during this Invincible era, I see him with various-shaped nose or nostrils..Maybe, the make-up artist wasn't able to put much concealer or foundation at the nose area at that time...Well, I think we just keep on guessing.. :roll:
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Yes, I was just asking anybody who knows what is it in his nose area? I was also surprised to see this picture. Just trying to connect it with the post regarding the effects of too much surgery in the nose.. :cry:
wouldn't something that happened as a natural growth on a person look different than this? do you know what i mean? this looks like some fake growth that only happens in the movies. does that make any sense ? you know what this makes me think of all the sudden. what is the disorder that the elephant man had? it is a real disorder that usually comes in the form or growths like this on a person. i gotta go to work , can't check for it now.
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I remember reading an article that or maybe the nanny said it I am not sure that he had a jar full of prosthetic noses, as a disguises. They said that he liked to disguise himself. Maybe that's why we see him with different type of noses.
I wish i can find that article.
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If it helps, I can say that here in Italy, in a report on TV news in 2009, they said that Michael Jackson had a cancerous lesion on the nose and that perhaps he wanted to kill himself because of this, but the doctor, who was talking about it, said it was not anything serious, treatable and therefore there was no reason to kill for something like that.
A doctor, again on the TV news, had even talked about the strange strain on the wrist that was noted at the conference 02.
Speaking of Italian TV news, I can say that rarely they give information on the process of Murray etc, but when it happens, I find the same journalist and she speaks with a strange tone, different from usual, less serious: or she knows something, or maybe she is a believer.
Ciao
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I found this picture, it looks like he has bandaid on his nose.
I honestly don't understand, if he had prothestic nose, how come Arnie Klein was injecting him with some solution to fill his nose on the sides? This story is another farce. Like I said my earlier post, I am trying to find this article and I found this picture instead.It stated that Michael had alot of fake noses to disguise himself. Did anyone hear of this story?
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Yes, in 2009 I heard that story.
In some pictures of MJ, it seems that his nose has something strange...anyway he is always handsome ...
Ciao.
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I remember reading an article that or maybe the nanny said it I am not sure that he had a jar full of prosthetic noses, as a disguises. They said that he liked to disguise himself. Maybe that's why we see him with different type of noses.
I wish i can find that article.
My hunch is this...Maybe there was a time that it was really difficult to repair some broken tissues or cartilages in his nose area..The best way they could do is to put some prosthetic noses until he is ready to undergo another surgery. He may have liked the idea since it could have added more mystery to his persona plus disguising himself is now much easier. I really couldn't recall where I read an article from a book that says a certain guy went to see Mike at home and he was astonished to see him without a nose or something. I really didn't pay attention to that idea at that time but now it just crossed my mind. :|
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Ok I found this article. Oh boy.. I guess they are going to make Neverland as a museum..
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LOS ANGELES - USA - Amongst the famous white glove that the sadly deceased king of pop used to wear when fiddling with his young friends backstage, there will also be a display of the many prosthetic noses that Jackson had to use after his real nose had disintegrated many years ago.
The Michael Jackson Memorial museum which will open in the Neverland Ranch next year and will display many artifacts and pop related memorabilia relating to Jackson's life is set to be a big hit with Jackson fans worldwide.
"We've got the famous white glove amongst many treasures; not many people know that Michael actually owned thirty identical left hand white gloves which he sometimes wore on both hands. We're going to be showcasing Michael's set of nose prosthetics as well as his collection of little boys underpants," curator for the museum, Donald Fiend, told the LA Times newspaper.
Jackson who is set to be buried today, has come under scrutiny again in death as much as in life. According to the authorities in Los Angeles counties biohazard unit, there is a problem with burying any object in the earth that is not biodegradable. Michael Jackson's body has been cited as a non-biodegradable plastic and would therefore not be very eco-friendly.
"After much discussion with our laboratory people, the burial was finally allowed to go ahead but only if the body was encased in concrete so that the toxic plastics do not leech out into the water table and contaminate the cities water supplies. The state of California's new eco-regulations have strict rules about burying toxic substances that may stay in the soil for hundreds of years. Michael Jackson's burial ground will be classified as a toxic landfill site and therefore after having been sealed off completely has not contravened any statutes of Californian law with regards to the threat of poisoning the fragile eco-system," Brent Maher, a Topsoil Toxicologist for the Santa Barbara Municipality said.
Michael Jackson will not be buried with his nose prosthetics which have instead been removed and will be one of the main attractions to the Jacko Museum in Neverland.
There are also plans to employ Jackson's father as a tour guide for museum visitors.
"We're going to employ his father to be the official guide in the museum. He will go around the great hall with a thick leather belt and show people how he used to discipline the little star if he got a dance move wrong or didn't sing right. We are trying to get to the real Jackson experience, so if you don't come out of the museum with some serious welts and belt marks across your back, then you can get your money back."
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The article above is a disrespectful spoof article
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The article above is a disrespectful spoof article
I agree, as much I do not agree with Joe Jackson beating Michael, it is disrespectful.