Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => This Is It => Topic started by: CC on November 24, 2009, 01:38:49 PM

Title: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: CC on November 24, 2009, 01:38:49 PM
SORRY! I'M CRAZY! MY HEAD DOESN'T STOP! MAYBE I'M LOST HERE... AND ENGLISH ISN'T MY LANGUAGE.

AFTER KILLER THRILLER PARTY AT SONY AT THE END OF MJ SPEECH: THE BEST IS YET TO COME! (SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!) HE SAIS HE LOVES INVINCIBLE, THIS ALBUM IS A BIO OF HIM...
THIS IS IT - THE MOVIE
HE SING A PART OF SPEECHLESS A CAPELLA
IN SMOOTH CRIMINAL THE NAME OF THE CASINO WAS BREAK OF DAWN
AT THE END OF THRILLER WE LISTEN A LITTLE OF THE MUSIC OF THREATENED...
THIS THREE SONGS FROM INVINCIBLE
ON CD INVINCIBLE
SPEECHLESS NEXT TRACK = YOU ARE MY LIFE
BREAK OF DAWN NEXT TRACK = HEAVEN CAN WAIT
THREATNED IS THE LAST SONG ON THIS CD BUT AT THE END OF THRILLER (ON THE END OF THE MOVIE)TALKS BY HIM SELF...

LOL  :lol:
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on November 24, 2009, 01:43:51 PM
I'm sorry I don't get you. :oops:  Are you talking about the This Is It movie? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 24, 2009, 01:46:37 PM
what are you tryingto say i do not understand what you mean
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: Claire on November 24, 2009, 02:44:40 PM
I think, he/she (i'm sorry I don't know  :oops: ) is trying to say  that might be a connection between This is it ( movie) and Invincible and that in Invincible might be some clues.
Sorry for my english  :oops:
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 24, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
I think you're right Claire. And I can understand you perfectly  ;)
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 24, 2009, 02:58:35 PM
oh thanks i wasnt being rude
Quote from: "Claire"
I think, he/she (i'm sorry I don't know :oops: ) is trying to say that might be a connection between This is it ( movie) and Invincible and that in Invincible might be some clues.
Sorry for my english :oops:
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: CC on November 24, 2009, 03:12:08 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
oh thanks i wasnt being rude
Quote from: "Claire"
I think, he/she (i'm sorry I don't know :oops: ) is trying to say that might be a connection between This is it ( movie) and Invincible and that in Invincible might be some clues.
Sorry for my english :oops:
thanks claire... thats onlu thoughts... things in my head... maybe are some clues this was de cd that Sony didn't support... I don't know...
I'm a SHE...  :D
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: techdiva on November 24, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
You are right. Sony did pull the plugged on Invincible. I am going to have to look at the lyrics again or hear the cd again. Thanks for the info. Great find!!! :P
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: mjssoulmate on November 26, 2009, 08:52:15 AM
Yes, I agree there is a connection.  Just listen to Unbreakable and Threatened. But I think one of the biggest clues is the song CRY.
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MissG on November 26, 2009, 09:20:15 AM
I have the CD book in my hands....reading all the lyrics! Most of them are about love. Also the last track Threatened, is about love? "Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me"
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: Missyb007 on November 26, 2009, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: "mjssoulmate"
Yes, I agree there is a connection.  Just listen to Unbreakable and Threatened. But I think one of the biggest clues is the song CRY.

I know people are going to be crazy because of me:D I just like to quote and add a lyric of the song that's mentioned in the quote sorry :oops:  :lol:

[Verse 1]
Somebody shakes when the wind blows
Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
Somebody's lacking a hero
And they have not a clue
When it's all gonna end

[Verse 2]
Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
When will this mystery unfold
And will the sun ever shine
In the blind man's eyes when he cries?


[Chorus:]
You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
If we all cry at the same time tonight

[Verse 3]
People laugh when they're feelin sad
Someone is taking a life, hold on
Respect to believe in your dreams

Tell me where were you
when your children cried last night?

[Verse 4]
Faces fill with madness
Miracles unheard of, hold on
Faith is found in the winds
All we have to do
Is reach for the truth


[Chorus]

And when that flag blows
There'll be no more wars
And when all calls
I will answer all your prayers

[Chorus x3]

Change the world


Someone is taking a life, hold on
Respect to believe in your dreams

That kinda cool since we are having a tell your dreams topic now :D Just wanted to say... :)

But you were right! these lyrics are.. well.. a big clue to me.. IF Invincible is linked to his hoax ;)
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MissG on November 26, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
I have been 3 days listening to invincible  :mrgreen:  ( my fav album  :oops: and I like them all but this one is special to me ).

I was looking at the book and I observed the pic on page 16, the one made by Uri Geller. On my way to analize the drawing. If that album has clues, then, Im on it  :ugeek:

(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/nessyj79/mjjig.gif)
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MissG on November 26, 2009, 09:42:49 AM
Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible.

Depicted with fascinating dimensions, Uri Geller has captured the most precious and beautiful collections of words and signs of Love, Peace, Hope and Light.

Illustrated at the centre of the picture are the profiles of a man and woman looking towards each other crowned with the head of an eagle and bound between their lips by a symbol representing the tunnel of light. Light that shines for future hope and love. The word PEACE and a heart connect their third eyes representing love and calmness.

The sign of ever lasting life and peace is INFINITY, seen as a figure 8 laid horizontally, radiating beneath the two faces. Below Infinity is a picture of a fish, which symbolises fertility. The fish emits sonar waves that convert into infinity signs.

Shooting out of the woman’s head is a UFO representing the positive force and intelligence from the outer universe and above the man’s head a BOX that characterises the 2001 Space Odyssey black slab computer, the mind from another race in the universe. Under the box, is an indescribable gun, drawn with a mystical mind, firing bullets that melt on release. This marks the end of war. PEACE. The word URI written beneath the bullets, in English and Hebrew has major significance. In Hebrew, the word URI means ‘my light’. The letters U.R.I. are translated ‘YOU ARE I’ meaning, you are like me. That is peace and end of war, when we can see that we are all as one, alike, invincible.

The pyramids seen blazing in the picture represent the Egyptian Pharaohs who believed spirits could see the stars. Uri believes the pyramids were levitated with Mindpower to that provision. Pyramids also symbolise one of the Seven Wonders of the World, which is parallel to Michael Jackson as one of the most extraordinary and unique artists in the world.

The Flames found over the pyramids and the mind box radiate energy and power.

Fire flames were the first signal humanity had to warm themselves from cold and to be able to cook. Presented here as advancement in evolution, much like Michael’s music and humanitarianism, continuously developing and evolving.

The word, LOVE, can be found written beneath a symbol of Nautilus, depicted as a spiral shell, which dates back millions of years. This is the house, the eternal castle. Nautilus is Love.

What I believe to be the centre of this fascinating picture, is an eye that can be found on the top left known in many different cultures around the world to be the invincible evil protector.

To the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. To the right a striking and wondrous star. A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe:

EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT.

It is an ancient symbol, the oldest star. Originally discovered by the Sumerians in ancient Syria, the star was held as a sacred object. It shines so beautifully over the entire magic of Michael Jackson.

Michael’s daughter, Paris is written in The Milky Way of shooting stars that reveals a tail of the comet. Prince is written under Paris.

The letter SHIN in Hebrew can be found under the box symbolising God.

On the left of the drawing appears to be a tree or an atomic blast leaping out of the picture.

Michael’s birth date 29/08/58 appears in the picture. The number 29 has the powerful force of the number 11 (9+2), the power of your mind. And the month August is the eighth month that represents infinity.

What Sony removed from this picture makes it all the more phenomenal. The words: GOD, ANGEL, USA, JER-USA-LEM (USA being part of the word) and a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing. (Also you are I )

The illustration has now found a connecting ground from the outer world, which explains the mystery and magic of Invincible.

Uri Geller has also designed the star logo for the pop group, N’sync. Uri told them that the power of the star logo would make them the biggest boy band in the world. That has now come true.

This magnificent artwork will crown Michael Jackson’s album through spirituality and mankind as well as preserving the quality and genius of the man and his music.

(http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)

(http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 26, 2009, 10:39:40 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
I have the CD book in my hands....reading all the lyrics! Most of them are about love. Also the last track Threatened, is about love? "Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me"


im wondering if this is aimed at the devil himself tommy mottola,do you remember that sony speech mj did to the uk fan club and he said that mariah came to him crying and he had to hold her lucky cow,any way she said she was scared of mottola,he was following her and was very dangerous its just a thought to explore
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: CC on November 26, 2009, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "Gema"
I have the CD book in my hands....reading all the lyrics! Most of them are about love. Also the last track Threatened, is about love? "Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me"


im wondering if this is aimed at the devil himself tommy mottola,do you remember that sony speech mj did to the uk fan club and he said that mariah came to him crying and he had to hold her lucky cow,any way she said she was scared of mottola,he was following her and was very dangerous its just a thought to explore

THAT'S RIGHT!! KILLER THRILLER PARTY WAS AWSOME!!!
WE SAW MICHAEL FEARLESS... THIS MOMENT CHANGE HIS LIFE FOR EVER....
MAYBE THE HOAX BORN AT THAT MOMENT??!!
HE SAIS HE DOESN'T STOP UNTIL EXTERMINATE HIM!!!
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on November 26, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
(http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)

(http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)

Interesting, but it's two different pictures! Btw.. who drawn it?  :?:
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MissG on November 26, 2009, 06:31:04 PM
Yes 2 different pics. The original and the CD one, censored by Sony. Uri geller draw them.

Yes Spakkle29ful! akes sense the Mariah Carey story.
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: CC on November 27, 2009, 09:55:09 PM
INVINCIBLE WAS ONE OF THE BEST CD!!!
MJ SAIS (in a interview)THAT THE ORIGINAL NAME WAS UNBREAKABLE BUT SONY CHANGE IT

so unbreakeble lyrics are important too

all the lyrics match at this moment

speechless for the fans
you are my life for his kids
cry for the world
heaven can wait
privacy

THREATENED lyrics are great

Tonight’s story is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.

You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast
Watching you when you sleep, when you’re in bed
I’m underneath
You’re trapped in halls, and my face is the walls
I’m the floor when you fall, and when you scream it’s ‘cause of me
I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head
I heard just what you said
That’s why you’ve got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]
You should be watching me, you should feel threatened
Why you sleep, why you creep, you should be threatened
Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me, threatened
Half of me you’ll never be, so you should feel threatened by me

You think you’re by yourself, but it’s my touch you felt
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you
Your worst nightmare, it's me, I'm everywhere
In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you
I’m telling you, when you lie under a tomb
I’m the one watching you
That’s why you got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]

[ROD SERLING VERSE]
The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.

[CHORUS x 3]

[ROD SERLING OUTRO]
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 28, 2009, 01:22:24 PM
Some words that are on the original (Uri Geller drawing), and Sony left them out:

* eleven eleven
* You are
* God
* angel 2000
* USA
* Jerusalem
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: nestra on November 28, 2009, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: "CC"
INVINCIBLE WAS ONE OF THE BEST CD!!!
MJ SAIS (in a interview)THAT THE ORIGINAL NAME WAS UNBREAKABLE BUT SONY CHANGE IT

so unbreakeble lyrics are important too

all the lyrics match at this moment

speechless for the fans
you are my life for his kids
cry for the world
heaven can wait
privacy

THREATENED lyrics are great

Tonight’s story is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.

You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast
Watching you when you sleep, when you’re in bed
I’m underneath
You’re trapped in halls, and my face is the walls
I’m the floor when you fall, and when you scream it’s ‘cause of me
I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head
I heard just what you said
That’s why you’ve got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]
You should be watching me, you should feel threatened
Why you sleep, why you creep, you should be threatened
Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me, threatened
Half of me you’ll never be, so you should feel threatened by me

You think you’re by yourself, but it’s my touch you felt
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you
Your worst nightmare, it's me, I'm everywhere
In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you
I’m telling you, when you lie under a tomb
I’m the one watching you
That’s why you got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]

[ROD SERLING VERSE]
The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.

[CHORUS x 3]

[ROD SERLING OUTRO]
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.

you are my life, cry and heaven can wait - can we hear these songs in TII? If we can, could u tell me when exactly? I can`t find these songs there.
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: MissG on November 28, 2009, 02:16:48 PM
I don´t think those songs are there! I went today to a music store and checked the cd! nothing!
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: CC on November 28, 2009, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: "nestra"
Quote from: "CC"
INVINCIBLE WAS ONE OF THE BEST CD!!!
MJ SAIS (in a interview)THAT THE ORIGINAL NAME WAS UNBREAKABLE BUT SONY CHANGE IT

so unbreakeble lyrics are important too

all the lyrics match at this moment

speechless for the fans
you are my life for his kids
cry for the world
heaven can wait
privacy

THREATENED lyrics are great

Tonight’s story is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.

You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast
Watching you when you sleep, when you’re in bed
I’m underneath
You’re trapped in halls, and my face is the walls
I’m the floor when you fall, and when you scream it’s ‘cause of me
I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head
I heard just what you said
That’s why you’ve got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]
You should be watching me, you should feel threatened
Why you sleep, why you creep, you should be threatened
Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me, threatened
Half of me you’ll never be, so you should feel threatened by me

You think you’re by yourself, but it’s my touch you felt
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you
Your worst nightmare, it's me, I'm everywhere
In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you
I’m telling you, when you lie under a tomb
I’m the one watching you
That’s why you got to be threatened by me

[CHORUS]

[ROD SERLING VERSE]
The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.

[CHORUS x 3]

[ROD SERLING OUTRO]
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.

you are my life, cry and heaven can wait - can we hear these songs in TII? If we can, could u tell me when exactly? I can`t find these songs there.
sorry, i don't mean all this songs are in TII, but speechless and threatened yes but maybe he wanna take us to invincible, why he sing that songs on the movie?
he sing for us... the fans... that songs aren't on thisisit cd... just thougths...
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: breakodawn on June 30, 2010, 06:15:47 AM
cc...I was thinking the same about the Invicible  album and the significance in the choice of songs.Remember how he sang Speechless into the camera,directly at us.Why do that if its only a rehearsal.My 14 year old son,who only listens to my updates,noticed  Threatened at the end of the Thriller song the name of Gilda's club Break of Dawn  when we went to the cinema.Later I thought these song titles were significant.We both decided that Michael was being Threatened and at the Break of Dawn something was going to happen which  would leave us all be Speechless.Perhaps through the songs in the rehearsals this was going to be his way  of getting his message to us without being to obvious to the rest of the rest of the production team as he would know that we would look at every detail.He has carefully selected songs from Invincible which have meaning.What a genius!Pulling the strings like the Puppet Master.Cheers xxxxooo

A note,when news filtered through in Australia on the 25th June 2009 it was the break of dawn here on the 26th June 2009 and I haven't been the same since.
Title: Re: THIS IS IT - INVINCIBLE
Post by: darkchild on July 08, 2010, 12:39:39 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
Quote from: "mjssoulmate"
Yes, I agree there is a connection.  Just listen to Unbreakable and Threatened. But I think one of the biggest clues is the song CRY.

I know people are going to be crazy because of me:D I just like to quote and add a lyric of the song that's mentioned in the quote sorry :oops:  :lol:

[Verse 1]
Somebody shakes when the wind blows
Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
Somebody's lacking a hero
And they have not a clue
When it's all gonna end

[Verse 2]
Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
When will this mystery unfold
And will the sun ever shine
In the blind man's eyes when he cries?


[Chorus:]
You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
If we all cry at the same time tonight

[Verse 3]
People laugh when they're feelin sad
Someone is taking a life, hold on
Respect to believe in your dreams

Tell me where were you
when your children cried last night?

[Verse 4]
Faces fill with madness
Miracles unheard of, hold on
Faith is found in the winds
All we have to do
Is reach for the truth


[Chorus]

And when that flag blows
There'll be no more wars
And when all calls
I will answer all your prayers

[Chorus x3]

Change the world


Someone is taking a life, hold on
Respect to believe in your dreams

That kinda cool since we are having a tell your dreams topic now :D Just wanted to say... :)

But you were right! these lyrics are.. well.. a big clue to me.. IF Invincible is linked to his hoax ;)


I totally agree with the clues on the Invicible Album. I did pick up on the clue from Cry about a life being taken.  I wonder how you would add a song from the History Album into the mix, especially, This Time Around.  I meant do you think this song could have a link to Unbreakable. Especially because Biggie Smalls Notorious B.I.G. does a rap lyric in both songs.  Thank you in advance for your help. God bless all! xxxx :)

This time around I'll never get bit
Though you really wanna fix me
This time around you're making me sick
Though you really wanna get me
Somebody's out
Somebody's out to get me
They really wanna fix me, hit me
But this time around I'm taking no s...
Though you really wanna get me
You really wanna get me

He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Control of me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really could control me

This time around I'll never get bit
Though you really wanna get me
This time around I'm taking no s...
Though you really wanna fix me
Somebody's out
Somebody's out to use me
They really want to use me
And then falsely accuse me
This time around
They'll take it like spit
'Cause you really can't control me

You know you can't control me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me

[Rap: The Notorious BIG]
Listen, I've got problems of my own
Flashin' cameras, taps on my phone
Even in my home I ain't safe as I should be
Things always missin'
Maybe it could be my friends
They ain't friends if they robbin' me
Stoppin' me from makin' a profit, see
Apology shallow like the ocean
I guess I'll resort to gun totin'
If I was dead broke and smokin'
I'd probably be by my lonesome
I'm a killer nigga I ain't jokin'
Endo smoke got me choked and I'm hopin'
The fool comes slippin'
So I could blow'em open
This time around
I changed up my flow
Got rid of the rotts
Got Pitts by the door
I've raised other peoples to watch my back
Stay away from strangers
So I won't slack
And I know my nigga Mike like that
Baby
[Michael]
This time around yeah...
He really thought he really had
Control of meHe really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Had a hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
Control of me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
He really thought he really had
A hold on me
He really thought he really had
They thought they really had control of me
This time around yeah
He really thought
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