Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Memorial => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on January 19, 2011, 09:24:11 PM

Title: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 19, 2011, 09:24:11 PM
I am going through old TMZ articles again, and I bumped into this one, posted at 4AM in the morning: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/la-toya-a ... ilys-home/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/la-toya-arrives-at-her-familys-home/)

It says they arrived earlier this morning. How early was that? Why is  it so light in one of the pictures? What am I missing?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 19, 2011, 09:38:44 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I am going through old TMZ articles again, and I bumped into this one, posted at 4AM in the morning: http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/la-toya-a ... ilys-home/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/la-toya-arrives-at-her-familys-home/)

It says they arrived earlier this morning. How early was that? Why is  it so light in one of the pictures? What am I missing?

Interesting, I couldn't see the picture. But, at 4am it wouldn't be light yet in California, no matter what time of year it is. I wonder too, how they were able to get a picture at 4am...
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 19, 2011, 09:40:46 PM
It's interesting to go through all those old articles again. More weird stuff there...
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 19, 2011, 10:38:51 PM
Yes indeed very weird. Thanks Souza for posting this again. Something we should investigate.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: mjssoulmate on January 19, 2011, 11:19:11 PM
All I see is a photo with a bicycle in the street.  If that is the one you are talking about then it is still dark.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: Grace on January 19, 2011, 11:21:41 PM
TMZ stuff is early up this morning and still knows how to right-click "delete" ... hahaha
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: Andrea on January 20, 2011, 12:05:48 AM
Quote from: "mjssoulmate"
All I see is a photo with a bicycle in the street.  If that is the one you are talking about then it is still dark.

Here is the original photo that was with the article, I've no idea why they've removed it since.

(http://http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/07/07/0707_latoya_dad_jermain_inf-1.jpg)

According to this site : http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/a ... =-11&day=1 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=137&month=7&year=2009&obj=sun&afl=-11&day=1)  the sun rose at 5:49 a.m. on July 7, 2009 in Los Angeles.

Date          Sunrise
Jul 7, 2009   5:49 AM

I too think it's a good idea to go through some old TMZ articles again, there's some weird stuff we may have overlooked...
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MJonmind on January 20, 2011, 02:30:33 AM
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Why would they replace it with this pic?  It almost looks like Jermaine on the ground, and why is somebody grabbing his foot like he's twisting it. Very strange. :?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: Misteryman000 on January 20, 2011, 02:33:09 AM
the blond woman!! who is she?? :o she look like the blond woman with the adam apple.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: underthemoon on January 20, 2011, 02:43:09 AM
The article has only 17 comments ? I can see 14...very strange ! Looks like it was new....
Some pics are from the funeral, not the memorial and at the funeral it was dark.
When i saw the end of the memorial, one brother ....Marlon...said good night at the end to the audience....thank you and good night, but i has starts at 10 am and the end was around 1 pm in LA.....good night ?????????????? :roll:

At 6:36.....after Paris speech...thank you and good night

And why is Marlon more crying about his dead brother Brandon...he never knew him ? The family gets so emotional when he mentioned Brandon....not nearly one time they get so emotionel about Michael.....i wonder...
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: cassi on January 20, 2011, 03:03:07 AM
Quote from: "Misteryman000"
the blond woman!! who is she?? :o she look like the blond woman with the adam apple.

this is exactly what i said, THE BLOND WOMAN???    :shock:     :o
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 20, 2011, 03:21:10 AM
This blond woman is sitting in the middle of Jermaine and Jermaines' wife. I zoomed in the picture with the paint program, and it does not look like the blond woman in the staple center. The one in the staple center had a longer chin, this one doesn't. I am trying to post the enlarged picture and it is giving me problems sorry :( . I still find it weird, why they removed it and why there are 17 replies but only 14 can be seen..  we should investigate the old tmz articles if we missed any clues.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: underthemoon on January 20, 2011, 03:44:25 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
This blond woman is sitting in the middle of Jermaine and Jermaines' wife. I zoomed in the picture with the paint program, and it does not look like the blond woman in the staple center. The one in the staple center had a longer chin, this one doesn't. I am trying to post the enlarged picture and it is giving me problems sorry :( . I still find it weird, why they removed it and why there are 17 replies but only 14 can be seen..  we should investigate the old tmz articles if we missed any clues.


At the pic we see one car ? Jermaine in the front and on the back seats Jermaine's wife, the blond woman ( for me to tall fpr Michael in disgues) and ???? looks like Jermaine too, but must be a brother ?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: onemoretime on January 20, 2011, 04:06:23 AM
Both men wearing the same yellowtie.
Never have I seen family members wearing yellow ties at a memorial, the usual color is normally black, unless of course there is no dead person to mourn.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 05:19:44 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
[attachment=0:202svphh]media_removed[1].jpg[/attachment:202svphh]
Why would they replace it with this pic?  It almost looks like Jermaine on the ground, and why is somebody grabbing his foot like he's twisting it. Very strange. :?

What is that? :shock:  how come they put that pic? is that Jermaine? Woud Jermaine wear sneakers and those clothes?

Odd, very odd
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: underthemoon on January 20, 2011, 05:23:15 AM
Same pic :

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/04/jackos-ba ... resurfaces (http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/04/jackos-baby-mama-resurfaces)
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 05:23:39 AM
Yes, just noticed.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 20, 2011, 05:35:51 AM
LOL, the man in the back of the car is Jackie, the picture of the guy falling with his bike is a pic TMZ always uses when they delete pictures from articles.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 20, 2011, 06:18:30 AM
THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE BLONDE ENLARGED.........AND THEN THE TWO OF THEM COMPARED....CHEERS XOXOX
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 06:25:56 AM
The bond lady is between Jackie and Halima . Either a very good family friend or indirect family member?

The only blond woman I remember seeing was with the kids at the water park, she was preagnant. I´ll look for the pic.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 20, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
Not the same blondes. The one in the car actually looks like a girl :lol:
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 20, 2011, 06:48:31 AM
Have a look at this comparison........the first picture was taken way back when the family appeared at an earlier hearing.......this was a blonde that I thought kinda looked too suspicious as she walked very quickly from the courthouse.......check out this similarity!!!!
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: katooooooo on January 20, 2011, 06:59:32 AM
Quote from: "Misteryman000"
the blond woman!! who is she?? :o she look like the blond woman with the adam apple.

i was searching a little about that blond woman. When you go on imdb and search for the memorial: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1471193/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1471193/)
the first cast name Elizabeth Berkley. She play in CSi Miami. IMO it's her...
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 08:24:40 AM
I think the profile fits.
(http://http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtB2PAk4hS612A2lUGjpXScsegKo-JLfrdgzI-t9rHEDCGVUoS5A)
(http://http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVamHDr_sIYNYSfmcMZCvHVmmeWor3Lkno9Mrx1WD5LG9PvoiM)
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Have a look at this comparison........the first picture was taken way back when the family appeared at an earlier hearing.......this was a blonde that I thought kinda looked too suspicious as she walked very quickly from the courthouse.......check out this similarity!!!!

Same woman! but do we know her name?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 20, 2011, 08:31:15 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Have a look at this comparison........the first picture was taken way back when the family appeared at an earlier hearing.......this was a blonde that I thought kinda looked too suspicious as she walked very quickly from the courthouse.......check out this similarity!!!!

Same woman! but do we know her name?

Not sure who she is, or who he is  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 20, 2011, 08:35:20 AM
Is there a published list of the people present at Murrays court prelims?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: nefari on January 20, 2011, 09:40:54 AM
I hope this is not breaking topic too much but this was mentioned earlier in this thread about Marlon talking more about Brandon than Michael. Here's the odd thing. I have a big book, "Michael by the editors of Rolling Stone" and it clearly shows Marlon behind the scenes with the coffin at the Memorial, sobbing his eyes out, bent over with his head on the coffin. None of the other Brothers seem this torn up.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 20, 2011, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Not the same blondes. The one in the car actually looks like a girl :lol:


Exactly my point. Not the same blondes..
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 20, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
Is it possible for them to "edit" the old articles?
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 20, 2011, 04:00:49 PM
(http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11795)
Oh no...not again!!!  :(  these blond women confuse me  :? .....i just look at their neck bones and ..it gives me shivers...(http://http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15600000/MJ-neck-michael-jackson-15639565-348-384.jpg)
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: onemoretime on January 20, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
The origin of the pictures published is listed under the pictures of the Jackson members in the car, INFdaily.com.
What, if TMZ doesn't own the rights to the pictures, and bought or lent them only for a short time to be published on their website? They have to take them off after a while or have to pay longer. Just a thought.
Read their terms and conditions.
INFdaily.com has 'the world's best celebrity images' and you can log in as a client. TMZ may be a client.
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: nefari on January 20, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
These blond women scare me too :(
I keep thinking about Chaz Bono. I guess you could say Chastity is dead :(
Yet in her we really never saw a very feminine side but in Michael we saw a male hormone raging animal on stage, slapping girl's booties, driving ladies crazy. I'm not going to panic yet :D
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 20, 2011, 08:43:54 PM
Wow... now it says media removed. :o
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: 2MuchMJLuv on January 22, 2011, 03:26:19 AM
No, atually the blonde woman is Jackie's wife.....well at least that's what she claims. For some reason he has yet to confirm that he's MARRIED. The girl in the gettyimage pic (with the "wife") is her "best friend" (Becca).  She's an aspiring singer.

http://bestofmichaeljackson.jclondon.co ... iva-elvis/ (http://bestofmichaeljackson.jclondon.com/2010/02/22/jackie-jackson-priscilla-presley-cirque-du-soleils-viva-elvis/)

http://www.metrolyrics.com/jackson-5-pi ... 18750.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/jackson-5-pictures-pic-18750.html)

Also, I wasn't able to post the getty one but if you go to gettyimages.com and type in the following image #'s you'll see a full frontal:

Editorial image #:  94247145

 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D



Quote from: "Gema"
I think the profile fits.
(http://http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtB2PAk4hS612A2lUGjpXScsegKo-JLfrdgzI-t9rHEDCGVUoS5A)
(http://http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVamHDr_sIYNYSfmcMZCvHVmmeWor3Lkno9Mrx1WD5LG9PvoiM)
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: MissG on January 22, 2011, 03:40:54 PM
http://bestofmichaeljackson.jclondon.co (http://bestofmichaeljackson.jclondon.co) ... iva-elvis/

that´s not her best pic  :shock:
Title: Re: I don't get this, morning of the memorial
Post by: scorpionchik on July 15, 2011, 03:31:45 AM
I was watching memorial photos and again thought of yellow ties on brothers.I know this was discussed but I  searched for the meaning & came across with interesting article from 2006 & want to post.

Ties - What Does Your Tie Say About You?

Today President Bush appeared in a dark suit (appropriate for a funeral) and a yellow-golden tie.

Was this combination, especially the tie, just by chance? President Bush had just lost control of the House and Senate in the United States, rendered him relatively powerless.

The choice of a yellow-golden tie was not by chance. He was making a statement in non-linguistic communication, the language of the ties.


The Message

Mr. Bush was saying to the entire world, "I may have lost the House and the Senate, but I am not surrendering! I am angry at what happened, and will stand my ground!"


The Language of the Ties

Watching the news on television one will see many world leaders, corporate presidents, and other important people wearing single color ties. They are speaking in the non-linguistic language of the ties.
A single color tie, worn on a white or light color shirt makes an instant statement.


The tie itself serves no purpose in dressing anyway, and is a fashion item imported from the 18th and 19th centuries.

However, as its worn today, it supports the neck and head visually, so you can use the tie to make a strong message to all who see you, just as Mr. Bush did.

Here are some basic colors worn, and the message they project:

o Red.

I am a fighter. I will not give up or give in. Don't mess with me. I mean what I say and say what I mean. I am aggressive (as in energetic) and take the initiative. Watch out, I am ready for all!

o Dark Red (Bordeaux).

I am a thinker. I will mull over all I hear, and make a decision later. Do not underestimate me. I have the time to do things right. I am no one's fool

o Vivid Blue.

Let's work together. Let's cooperate. Let's work things out. I am ready to compromise if it will be constructive.

o Sky Blue.

Follow me and my dream. I will lead you in the right direction. I have hope in the future and you will too, listen to my message.

o Marine Blue.

I am not in the mood for foolishness. Be serious when you are around me. Do not waste my time.

o Yellow.

I am angry. Do you really want to take me on? I am ready to fight.

o Gold.

I am not a quitter. I will finish what I started.


o Purple (Mauve).

I am the teacher. You will listen to what I have to say. I know what you need to know and will impart that information to you.

Color Combinations - Design of Ties

Not everyone is consciously sending you messages by wearing ties.

World leaders and movers and shakers who are filmed by the press and are in the news know they must make statements.
The guy next to you at work may not have the same idea.
The color combinations and tie designs however are chosen by people in an unconscious manner.
When they wear them however, they have made some choice.
If their color combinations are predominantly in any of the colors above, they are making the same statements, or appropriately so.
Consider the color of the guy's tie (predominant) and design. If they are confusing, he may be confused. If they are wild, you can guess his mood fairly well.
Take time and analyze the tie, and then interpret the message. There is a very strong message to make in the language of the ties

http://ezinearticles.com/?Ties---What-D ... &id=355180 (http://ezinearticles.com/?Ties---What-Does-Your-Tie-Say-About-You?&id=355180)
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