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Title: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray Asked,
Post by: likemike on January 04, 2011, 05:08:49 PM
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People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-trial-witness-propofol-death/)
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MJ Bodyguard -- Murray Asked, "Does Anyone Know CPR?"

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Faheen Muhammad, one of Michael Jackson's bodyguards, just testified he was in Michael's room after Murray noticed MJ stopped breathing.  Faheen told the prosecutor, Murray was on his knees doing compressions on MJ in a panicked state, when he turned to Faheen and another bodyguard and asked, "Does anyone in the room know CPR?"

Faheen recalled how Prince and Paris were near the room and Paris was on her hands and knees crying.  The nanny took them away.

Faheen also said after Michael was pronounced dead at UCLA, Dr. Murray told him he was hungry and wanted to leave.  Faheen said he told Murray to eat at the hospital, but Murray left.

On cross-examination, Ed Chernoff got Faheen to admit Murray spoke with MJ's family and police before leaving.

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Title: Re: MJ Bodyguard -- Murray Asked, "Does Anyone Know CPR?"
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 04, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
Interesting that Murray supposedly is a cardiologist - who doesn´t know CPR.
Apart from it being weird in general, it makes you wonder (again) if he´s even a doctor...
Title: Re: MJ Bodyguard -- Murray Asked, "Does Anyone Know CPR?"
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
What the hell? this has to be a joke, i mean an hoax. I never heard that before, never!


edit:

LMAO

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 05:27:56 PM
First: Like you said: HE IS A CARDIOLOGIST (supposedly)- and he does not know how to administer CPR?  You know, the thingy where you apply compressions to the...what was it again... oh yeah, the HEART...  :lol:

Then: He was PANICKED?  Doctors usually are trained to stay calm- they know full well that panicking can cost lives.  I mean, I am sure some doctors panic, but you would think a cardiologist has seen a crisis or two.  

Also, I really, really hope this is all part of the Grand Illusion, as just the mere thought of Paris on her hands and knees, crying her heart out over her Daddy crying is killing me!
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 04, 2011, 05:28:49 PM
I thought MJ was on the bed with the whole CPR thing?????

I know Murray is a tall guy...  but is he that tall that he would be kneeling on the floor and doing CPR on the bed??????

Or do they mean he was kneeling on the bed????
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: PureLove on January 04, 2011, 05:29:44 PM
I could do the CPR for you Conny. :lol:  He couldn't do it even on bed? :lol:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 05:35:29 PM
More bricks... We should start a poll about how long it will take until the media will seriously consider that he is indeed NOT dead.  :lol:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: katooooooo on January 04, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
wow now MJ was on the floor and Murray was on his knees beside him on the floor...everything work with the 911 call.........sigh
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 04, 2011, 06:12:54 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I hope after this article we collect some more believers... what kind of cardiologist doesn't know how to do CPR? :lol:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
From mjjc

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Okay from my point of view in the courthouse:

I didn't know that nobody was allowed upstairs besides Michael, the children and Murray... Mohammed was allowed up this time, saw Michael on the bed and he said he knew he was DEAD right there he had his eyes open he was totally gone, Murray very panicedly said did he know CPR... While they were saying this they showed pictures of the room Michael died in, I didn't see them but a lot of the fans who could were crying... Mohammed then realised that Prince was in the door way and he couldn't move, Paris was on the landing outside crying and so he took them down to the nanny, and the nanny put them in the car to follow the ambulance.

We all thanked Mohammed so many times when he came out of the courthouse for being so kind to Michael and the children...

The judge said he wanted to continue but he has a tight schedule so it starts all over again tomorrow morning at 9:30am... And could last for up to two weeks.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 06:18:40 PM
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It's kinda strange how TMZ is posting the testimony on their website apparently about 20 minutes before it is said on the stand.... about 1 hour ago via web Retweeted by rockwitlili and 4 others
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 04, 2011, 06:40:06 PM
I just spoke to my doctor friend, like I said to the other post, he is not MJ fan, but he believes he is alive. He said how everything was handled through out the begining, the ambulance, backing up, he was laughing his head off, he said if that person really is having a heart attack at that rate he will be dead, also the phone calls, people not panicking. The thing that hit him the most, Conrad Murray, he said to me and I quote" He is not a cardiologist, a cardiologist knows how to revive a heart attack patient even better than MD doctor. He is not cardiologist nor a doctor far from it! They can administer by syringe a medicine to pump back the heart. You never do CPR on a bed, always on a hard flat surface.Plus they are trained not to panic in cases like this one.  (as we all know) Unless, they hired this man, pretending to be a cardiologist  to kill Michael. As we all know, when the paramedics went there, they said the person did not look totally like Michael Jackson.I think Conrad killed someone else. Or that person was sick and died. I have no clue anymore.
I hope the good Lord will put an end to all this so Michael can come back to all of us, mostly his children and family.

Blessings
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: paula-c on January 04, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
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"Does anyone in the room know CPR?"

 :? God! is this true, can such madness :lol:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: paula-c on January 04, 2011, 07:06:59 PM
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all4loveandbelieve wrote:

I just spoke to my doctor friend, like I said to the other post, he is not MJ fan, but he believes he is alive. He said how everything was handled through out the begining, the ambulance, backing up, he was laughing his head off, he said if that person really is having a heart attack at that rate he will be dead, also the phone calls, people not panicking. The thing that hit him the most, Conrad Murray, he said to me and I quote" He is not a cardiologist, a cardiologist knows how to revive a heart attack patient even better than MD doctor. He is not cardiologist nor a doctor far from it! They can administer by syringe a medicine to pump back the heart. You never do CPR on a bed, always on a hard flat surface.Plus they are trained not to panic in cases like this one. (as we all know) Unless, they hired this man, pretending to be a cardiologist to kill Michael. As we all know, when the paramedics went there, they said the person did not look totally like Michael Jackson.I think Conrad killed someone else. Or that person was sick and died. I have no clue anymore.
I hope the good Lord will put an end to all this so Michael can come back to all of us, mostly his children and family.

Blessings

This post is very interesting, thanks for posting ;)
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on January 04, 2011, 07:30:54 PM
I really dont understand how a majority of ppl cant see that Michael is alive...this WHOLE thing makes no sense. I feel like when ppl hear Murray didnt know how to do CPR, they are gonna just get mad n think that hes the most horrible doctor ever, but not even contemplate that this is a hoax.  :roll:
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 04, 2011, 07:43:27 PM
the only other explanation I could gather from that is that Murray was in such a panic at all the evidence around the room that he wanted to hand over the CPR activities to someone else so he could clean up his mess.  I heard he asked someone to go get him something to eat in the midst of all of this because he was hungry :?   If he is that cold blooded, God why is he even perpetrating a doctor?
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: scorpionchik on January 04, 2011, 07:47:32 PM
Michael as a high profile person suppose to have professor looking after him,not some unknown Murrey from nowhere. "Coincidentally" treating MJ's kids in Vegas from cold, financially broke, indicating he is not a good doctor and has no patients to practice, hardly 2-3 perhaps. Now turned out he does not know how to perform CPR  :lol:  Even nurses know that. So, he does not have medical knowledge of at least nursing level. he could not be  Michael's doctor. Cohoaxer yes, but not a doctor.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 04, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
Trying to keep the faith.  I so hope we are right :?  If not, this is a fucking travesty.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 04, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Well, according to Fox News report today, Murray is a psychologist, not a cardiologist.   :lol:
And the Judge's name is "Walden" not "Michael Pastor."   :lol:  :lol:

Fox News Reporter Sally Arthy was in court today for the preliminary hearing of Michael Jackson’s Doctor Conrad Murray.
Here are her notes from inside the courtroom.
There are no definite witnesses in court today
Judge goes through court proceedings regarding photographs etc/comings and goings/cell phones
There is a lottery for public seating each morning
Judge Walden opening statement 0910
7-8 Day hearing
20-30 witnesses
Show Michael Jackson preparing for important tour in U.K.
Major world event also important for MJ career
MJ crew rehearsal at Staples Centre in the evening
Defendant Murray working as personal psychologist, preventative treated
Murray treating MJ at home in Holmby Hills
Murray going late evening-midnight-1am at night and provide care..6 nights a week at MJ home giving Propofol to help MJ sleep for 2 straight months every night


Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011 ... z1A7gmxOSz (http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/04/courtroom-notes-inside-the-preliminary-hearing-of-dr-conrad-murray/#ixzz1A7gmxOSz)
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on January 04, 2011, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Well, according to Fox News report today, Murray is a psychologist, not a cardiologist.   :lol:
And the Judge's name is "Walden" not "Michael Pastor."   :lol:  :lol:

Fox News Reporter Sally Arthy was in court today for the preliminary hearing of Michael Jackson’s Doctor Conrad Murray.
Here are her notes from inside the courtroom.
There are no definite witnesses in court today
Judge goes through court proceedings regarding photographs etc/comings and goings/cell phones
There is a lottery for public seating each morning
Judge Walden opening statement 0910
7-8 Day hearing
20-30 witnesses
Show Michael Jackson preparing for important tour in U.K.
Major world event also important for MJ career
MJ crew rehearsal at Staples Centre in the evening
Defendant Murray working as personal psychologist, preventative treated
Murray treating MJ at home in Holmby Hills
Murray going late evening-midnight-1am at night and provide care..6 nights a week at MJ home giving Propofol to help MJ sleep for 2 straight months every night


Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011 ... z1A7gmxOSz (http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/04/courtroom-notes-inside-the-preliminary-hearing-of-dr-conrad-murray/#ixzz1A7gmxOSz)
The ppl on FOX news are so stupid  :roll: they never get anything right
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 08:27:26 PM
I just love how the inconsistencies and ridiculousness of the alleged events that day is coming out now to the public and "mass" media.  Suddenly, the idea of faking his death may not seem quite so silly in comparison.  This prelim will be a huge eye opener to those paying any sort of attention.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 04, 2011, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Well, according to Fox News report today, Murray is a psychologist, not a cardiologist.   :lol:
And the Judge's name is "Walden" not "Michael Pastor."   :lol:  :lol:

Fox News Reporter Sally Arthy was in court today for the preliminary hearing of Michael Jackson’s Doctor Conrad Murray.
Here are her notes from inside the courtroom.
There are no definite witnesses in court today
Judge goes through court proceedings regarding photographs etc/comings and goings/cell phones
There is a lottery for public seating each morning
Judge Walden opening statement 0910
7-8 Day hearing
20-30 witnesses
Show Michael Jackson preparing for important tour in U.K.
Major world event also important for MJ career
MJ crew rehearsal at Staples Centre in the evening
Defendant Murray working as personal psychologist, preventative treated
Murray treating MJ at home in Holmby Hills
Murray going late evening-midnight-1am at night and provide care..6 nights a week at MJ home giving Propofol to help MJ sleep for 2 straight months every night


Read more: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011 ... z1A7gmxOSz (http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/04/courtroom-notes-inside-the-preliminary-hearing-of-dr-conrad-murray/#ixzz1A7gmxOSz)

Ah really he is a pshychologist? Since when a phsychologist can administer propofol? I am a pshychologist, I cannot even prescribe advils to my patients. ( figure of speech) Give me a break. I will see if I can find him in the board association  of phsychologists. I probably can find only Quebec, I will try to see, if my doctor friend can help me on this. Not guaranting anything since he is very busy doctor.  I know CPR because I learned it on my free will, not because a pshychologist needs to learn CPR. Every day we  learn things that don't make sense,.Maybe Michael should have hired me,if he needed a phsychologist,  I would have given him warm milk and honey he would fall asleep like a baby.Old Italian recipe  :lol: Blessings to all.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 05, 2011, 04:24:29 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
the only other explanation I could gather from that is that Murray was in such a panic at all the evidence around the room that he wanted to hand over the CPR activities to someone else so he could clean up his mess.  I heard he asked someone to go get him something to eat in the midst of all of this because he was hungry :?   If he is that cold blooded, God why is he even perpetrating a doctor?

I thought of that possibility, too. But honestly, that would be a big mistake, to delegate this job to a medically non-professional person in order to do something that definately CAN be delegated to that person. The entire case is an absolute ridiculous desaster, if you look at it from a common sense point of view , so IDK, but who is able to take this serious under these circumstances. Even if considered as an attempt to kill MJ, it is just all so unbelievably unprofessianally done. People only seem to believe the BS because they take the media too seriously. For them Media seem to be the highest authority speaking, not to be questioned or listened to critically, HEARING what is actually being said....very sad indeed :D
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: lraving on January 05, 2011, 06:43:22 AM
I am not an expert at CPR, but I can imagine that the media misinterpret CM's question.

Does anybody in this room know CPR? as in could you give a hand. From what I remember that we learned at school, CPR can be given by 2 people, one does mouth to mouth and the other does the pumping.

Couldnt this be a question if there is someone in the room who can do the mouth to mouth part?
To me it seems this question can be interpreted in more then one ways.

L.O.V.E.

Live your life with love and humor: with love to understand it and with humor to bare it.
Title: Re: People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - MJ Bodyguard -- Murray As
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
Interesting  :D

I posted this in another thread earlier today:

In suicide prevention CPR acronym stands for the three risk signs for suicide: Current plan, Prior Attempts, and Resources.  

Why I thought about this is because Katherine Jackson said that Murray is a Doctor, a heart Doctor/ surgeon, and can´t perform CPR so she said it was a lie.

I imagined the scenario of Murray being a psychiatric Doctor, getting ready for an intervention, but a medical Doctor learns CPR within the 1st year of his studies, so this makes no sense either.

As a psychologist, Murray won´t be able to prescribe meds without the approval of a doctor, so the use of Propofol in this case should have been taking place by someone elses orders, a medical Doctor, something that makes no sense either since that drug must be administered by an anesthesiologist not a psychologist  :roll:


Murray is an actor and that´s it  :lol:
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