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Title: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 12:44:35 PM

MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-family-dr-conrad-murray-pretrial-hearing-defense-propofol-murder-sony-catalog/)
12 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's family claims the singer predicted his own death shortly before he died -- telling TMZ, the King of Pop was paranoid he'd be murdered ... for his incredibly valuable Sony catalog.

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The statement is in response to the story TMZ first broke in April -- that Dr. Murray's defense will argue MJ accidentally killed himself by self-injecting a lethal dose of Propofol.

But a rep for Michael's family tells us the Jacksons are "absolutely mortified" by the implication that MJ took his own life -- insisting, "Michael did NOT kill himself.

The rep adds, "What is incredibly ironic is that Michael told his mother shortly before he died that he thought someone was going to kill him ... and they were going to kill him for his catalog."

The family is also concerned that video surveillance of Michael's last living moments -- crucial evidence in Murray's trial -- is still missing.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: bec on January 04, 2011, 12:48:16 PM
Ohh! Finally some mention of the tapes!!

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The family is also concerned that video surveillance of Michael's last living moments -- crucial evidence in Murray's trial -- is still missing.

Well this is getting interesting...
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Datroot on January 04, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
We've all been wanting to find that out for the last 18 or so months.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 04, 2011, 12:56:05 PM
Wow, that is what we have been waiting for, right? The script goes on, it IS getting interesting!!
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: MissG on January 04, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
Who has those tapes?  :x  La Toya? Michael?  :x  Whooooooo?  :x
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Datroot on January 04, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Who has those tapes?  :x  La Toya? Michael?  :x  Whooooooo?  :x


MJ probably.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: MissG on January 04, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
Michael mentioned in the bashit documentary that when he had "sleep over" parties people could see on the tapes what was going on, that all was recordered.

I am very suspicious of the resons why the tapes of the last hours of Michael have been ignored.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 01:14:43 PM
nothing new
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: paula-c on January 04, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
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The rep adds, "What is incredibly ironic is that Michael told his mother shortly before he died that he thought someone was going to kill him ... and they were going to kill him for his catalog."



If a person who thinks that way it is not going has put in the hands of anyone to you inject a bunch of medicines
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: paula-c on January 04, 2011, 01:28:14 PM
and they were going to kill him for his catalog 8-)
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: MissG on January 04, 2011, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
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The rep adds, "What is incredibly ironic is that Michael told his mother shortly before he died that he thought someone was going to kill him ... and they were going to kill him for his catalog."



If a person who thinks that way it is not going has put in the hands of anyone to you inject a bunch of medicines

Plus, has been saif that  MJ himself hired Murray  ;)
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 04, 2011, 01:39:15 PM
How can they kill him only for a catalog?..I don't believe it.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 01:44:58 PM
If Michael's family is saying he predicted he would be murdered it could be to show that the hoax was necessary, that if he hadn't faked his death then he would really be dead.  I think this prelim will show many things to illustrate that this is very much a hoax.  As for the missing video of that day, it is probably with Michael, if the tape exists.  Michael is currently "missing" too, in that the general public thinks he's dead and the ones who believe he is alive don't know where he is.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 04, 2011, 02:11:12 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
If Michael's family is saying he predicted he would be murdered it could be to show that the hoax was necessary, that if he hadn't faked his death then he would really be dead.  I think this prelim will show many things to illustrate that this is very much a hoax.  As for the missing video of that day, it is probably with Michael, if the tape exists.  Michael is currently "missing" too, in that the general public thinks he's dead and the ones who believe he is alive don't know where he is.


I agree with you.  Perhaps Michael will personally hand deliver the missing tapes to court.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: jill on January 04, 2011, 02:29:24 PM
Interesting that LaToya is the one that told everyone the security tapes were missing, along with the hard drives for Mike's computer and several million dollars in cash.  Nothing was ever said about the cash or the hard drives after that either.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: xxmjxx on January 04, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
And jewllery too was missing. :?
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: chloead505 on January 04, 2011, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
How can they kill him only for a catalog?..I don't believe it.
And...! How did "killing" MJ help Sony get the catalog? Nothing of that makes sense. HOAX!
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: "xxmjxx"
And jewllery too was missing. :?

Yep, just like when Elvis died...
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: MissG on January 04, 2011, 03:24:53 PM
A crime scene that has been altered is usually investigating individuals who altered it.

This was never the case with La Toya  :roll:

When a person dies at home, a judge must give the order to lift up the cadaver  :roll:

Did Michael die at home or at the hospital? No clarity yet, one says joe and the other joy  :roll:
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: AnaMarcia on January 04, 2011, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
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The rep adds, "What is incredibly ironic is that Michael told his mother shortly before he died that he thought someone was going to kill him ... and they were going to kill him for his catalog."



If a person who thinks that way it is not going has put in the hands of anyone to you inject a bunch of medicines
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I totally agree.
In addition, he waited for death to come? I think nobody would do that!
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: allforus7 on January 04, 2011, 09:25:39 PM
So why wouldn't he ask for police help like people. And i 'm sure he was used to threats all his life.
Just saying.
This is not a reason to fake your death. Or if it is, then you don't leave clues and yell i 'm alive.
Unless there are no clues. Which is also very possible.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: mjfansince4 on January 04, 2011, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: "allforus7"
So why wouldn't he ask for police help like people. And i 'm sure he was used to threats all his life.
Just saying.
This is not a reason to fake your death. Or if it is, then you don't leave clues and yell i 'm alive.
Unless there are no clues. Which is also very possible.


ask the police? aside from the fact that it is well known that the LAPD have a history of corruption, the police (or judicial system for that matter) haven't been that nice to michael.

or, maybe it's all smoke and mirrors. maybe this whole thing is something way over any police department's head. instead of asking them to help protect him completely, he asked help for june 25th. and remember...the police chief retired later in 2009...
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: allforus7 on January 04, 2011, 10:20:55 PM
Michael is not coward. I don't see him running away and giving up life just because of that. I am sure he dealt with threats all his life. He was Michael Jackson, not some random guy from the corner. And ok, let's assume the theory  is true. So now why would he come back if so?
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: scorpionchik on January 04, 2011, 11:22:05 PM
Ok, I disagree with the statement MJ said they want to kill him because of catalog. This is used to ensure people to believe that MJ is dead and he was murdered as for now.
Michael is "dead" now. Who owns catalog? His estate and his children will inherit it later on when they become adult.
Where is the point to kill Michael for catalog? So, Michael is intelligent man and understands this. At least he consulted with attorney for sure..
Now, why family wants to convince people that MJ IS dead and perhaps because of his catalog and he used to say that? That's the question. Perhaps there are another motives to kill MJ and he therefore hid.
What IS ODD are missing tapes. There are answers on all questions and prosecution, investigation forgot to follow up with tapes?  :?: Family again mentions this knowing that no one can find them because they possess tapes.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: allforus7 on January 04, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
i see your point scorpionchik and yes, i also see this as an excuse to make it look real.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: bec on January 05, 2011, 12:30:18 AM
To me, all this talk of MJ being afraid he would be murdered and MJ was murdered for the catalog and the $ony/AEG conspiracy to murder MJ talk points out to you, me, and everyone else that the media DOESN'T CARE about this lead. They have their story, thankyouverymuch: Murray was an incompetent idiot shady doc, who bungled the care for the drug-addict-weirdo-has-been-mega-star gig resulting in death by OD, and nothing is going to change their minds.

NOTHING.

Well ok maybe one thing.

 :lol:
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 05, 2011, 01:27:11 AM
Quote from: "chloead505"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
How can they kill him only for a catalog?..I don't believe it.
And...! How did "killing" MJ help Sony get the catalog? Nothing of that makes sense. HOAX!

Earlier on and during the trials MJ said they wanted his catalog as well as TM but I don't get it, killing him for his catalog seems a bit far fetched.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Adi on January 05, 2011, 01:41:16 AM
Quote from: "bec"
To me, all this talk of MJ being afraid he would be murdered and MJ was murdered for the catalog and the $ony/AEG conspiracy to murder MJ talk points out to you, me, and everyone else that the media DOESN'T CARE about this lead. They have their story, thankyouverymuch: Murray was an incompetent idiot shady doc, who bungled the care for the drug-addict-weirdo-has-been-mega-star gig resulting in death by OD, and nothing is going to change their minds.

NOTHING.

Well ok maybe one thing.

 :lol:

It's a great plot for a modern day suspenseful Murder-Mystery Movie ....... :lol:
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: Adi on January 05, 2011, 01:43:58 AM
I bet those mysterious and elusive security tapes are going to pop up at just the right moment...."someone" is hanging onto them for sure.
Title: Re: MJ's Family -- Michael Predicted He'd Be Murdered
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 05, 2011, 03:43:08 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
(...) Where is the point to kill Michael for catalog? (...).


Well, Sony as a company, at first, was just selling electronic products (like Walkman for example). Then they decided to sell music. They needed the rights to songs to be able to sell them - not to pay MJ each time they wanted to release any compilation. MJ didn't want to sell the catalogue - so they forced him into an unfair deal - to take control over these assets.

I'm just posting this to point out that the plot for this "film" is just perfectly planned....    8-)  
However in 2001 it was not so funny....  :?
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