Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Michael Joe Jackson ~ Michael Joseph Jackson => Topic started by: CC on November 24, 2009, 01:17:44 PM

Title: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on November 24, 2009, 01:17:44 PM
Hi! I think he change his name after have the kids, because we know that at the birt certificate sais Joseph, but before the 2005 trial, i don't know...

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1FCk&feature=related)
BIG THANK YOU TO YAS, FOR PASTE THE LINK OF TIIDA AND FOR TIIDA FOR FIND THIS!!! ;)

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?fr ... ae=2961801 (http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID&keyid=168593&page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801)
BIG THANK YOU TO NINANINA ;)
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: DaTrootWillPrevail on November 24, 2009, 10:10:34 PM
i still think they're actually different people ..
 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Smooth Criminal on November 25, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
I am not too sure about this whole "Michael Changed His Name" & "Two Diff PPL" thing
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: loveumj88 on November 26, 2009, 11:37:43 AM
I strongly believe his real name is Michael Joe Jackson, and Michael Joseph Jackson is just a screen name which most celebrity do have.. :ugeek:
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: DaTrootWillPrevail on November 26, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: "loveumj88"
I strongly believe his real name is Michael Joe Jackson, and Michael Joseph Jackson is just a screen name which most celebrity do have.. :ugeek:

but ..on his marriage certificate it's "Michael Joseph Jackson"
when he's name is "Michael Joe Jackson" , so he's never legaly marry LMP ??
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: JENNYAPPLEHEAD on November 26, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
During the Dangerous Deposition he had to state his full name in court and he stated "Michael Joseph Jackson".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s)
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Butterfly J on November 26, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: "JENNYAPPLEHEAD"
During the Dangerous Deposition he had to state his full name in court and he stated "Michael Joseph Jackson".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s)

He could change it after that trial ...but 1 thing - why he named his kids Joseph and changed his to Joe :?
I don´t think there´s 2 different Michaels.
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 26, 2009, 02:43:48 PM
im just going with michael j jackson :lol:  :lol: can we all agree
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: lisap27 on November 26, 2009, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: "loveumj88"
I strongly believe his real name is Michael Joe Jackson, and Michael Joseph Jackson is just a screen name which most celebrity do have.. :ugeek:

this could be a possibilty!! to keep some of his private life private!!

example - Cliff Richards real name is Harry Webb!! he changed cos Cliff Richard sounds better than Harry Webb!! loads have done it cos they had noraml names!! Madonna is another.. she's Madge really!! lol.. :)
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Yas on November 26, 2009, 03:28:06 PM
Is there somebody that really might know the answer to this question and that we could contact and ask?  :mrgreen:
I really don't see the other way to find out...  :roll:
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 26, 2009, 03:39:33 PM
Quote from: "Yas"
Is there somebody that really might know the answer to this question and that we could contact and ask?  :mrgreen:
I really don't see the other way to find out...  :roll:

this is a mystery all on its own, we could ask katherine
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Yas on November 26, 2009, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "Yas"
Is there somebody that really might know the answer to this question and that we could contact and ask?  :mrgreen:
I really don't see the other way to find out...  :roll:

this is a mystery all on its own, we could ask katherine

I think it's impossible to contact Katherine, isn't it?
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: DaTrootWillPrevail on November 26, 2009, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: "Yas"
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "Yas"
Is there somebody that really might know the answer to this question and that we could contact and ask?  :mrgreen:
I really don't see the other way to find out...  :roll:

this is a mystery all on its own, we could ask katherine

I think it's impossible to contact Katherine, isn't it?

Nothing Is Impossible  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
let's kidnapping her and ask her about Michael's name  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Yas on November 27, 2009, 07:59:16 AM
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Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Missyb007 on November 27, 2009, 08:45:52 AM
Maybe it's just a short name for Joseph? many people do that?
People say my name all the time like this : "Lies" when it is "Marlies" so..
maybe i've got a twin too now :D (sorry didn't mean to mock with you guys ;) )
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Yas on November 27, 2009, 10:06:46 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
Maybe it's just a short name for Joseph? many people do that?
People say my name all the time like this : "Lies" when it is "Marlies" so..
maybe i've got a twin too now :D (sorry didn't mean to mock with you guys ;) )

It can be short name for Joseph, but you can use short name in legal documents. By low in my country only one letter wrong in full name is considered as different person and makes the document invalid. I don't know about US low, but it should be the same.
If there is anyone here that knows more about US low...Help, please!  :)
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Léa on November 27, 2009, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "loveumj88"
I strongly believe his real name is Michael Joe Jackson, and Michael Joseph Jackson is just a screen name which most celebrity do have.. :ugeek:

this could be a possibilty!! to keep some of his private life private!!

example - Cliff Richards real name is Harry Webb!! he changed cos Cliff Richard sounds better than Harry Webb!! loads have done it cos they had noraml names!! Madonna is another.. she's Madge really!! lol.. :)

I think that's the better theory too,

Because MJ doesn't have a  lot of privacy (to say the least) and this could have been a try to try keeping some things secret such as certificatesn marriage...
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: EarthAngel90 on December 12, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
I don't think that Michael would change his name anytime soon unless he wanted to ... I think his name is Same Michael Joseph Jackson ;)  ...  The Name Joseph does change in two different ways : Joe or Short Term of Joe - Jo-Jo. :D  I know this because My Brother's Name is Joseph - the name does change time to time. :D
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: tiida11 on December 13, 2009, 01:03:31 AM
TMZ admitted that the Michael's middle name is Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1FCk&feature=related)
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Yas on December 13, 2009, 01:52:30 AM
Quote from: "tiida11"
TMZ admitted that the Michael's middle name is Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1FCk&feature=related)

I really think you should post this as new thread, so everyone could see it. I think it's very important.
Weird thing is that this video is posted on September 03, 2009 and nobody noticed it earlier.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on December 13, 2009, 02:17:07 AM
THANK YOU YAS! I CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TOPIC ... ;)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Yas on December 13, 2009, 02:39:02 AM
Quote from: "CC"
THANK YOU YAS! I CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TOPIC ... ;)

That is good idea, too  :) . But... no need to thank me, tiida11 found that video. I just found it (veeeeeeeeery) important.  :)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Crescendo on December 13, 2009, 03:51:03 AM
I dont believe in the 2 people theory either. Like Ive stated in the past if Mikey had a twin he would have been part of the J5. Their dad would have made sure of it. lol
but in all seriousness...

I think its possible he changed his name. its very easily done.
ive never seen Mjs BC but i know in court his name was read out to be Michael Joe. So..
which could be very interesting because if he changed his name legally to Joe then his DC may be invalid and so may keep him out of any legal trouble if he is still alive.

thank you tiida and CC for that video. Tmz never ceases to interest me. lol

just thought i'd add an example here:

I will not reveal my full name but my middle name is Anne. So say my name was once Stephanie Annette Fisher but i changed it to Stephanie Anne Fisher.. Im no longer known as Stephanie Annette Fisher.

I know Miley Cyrus changed her name legally from Destiny Cyrus to Miley Cyrus. So I would believe a document like a DC would say Miley Cyrus and not the her former name. I could be very wrong.
Title: Re: I think he chage his name
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 13, 2009, 06:18:26 AM
Quote from: "Butterfly J"
Quote from: "JENNYAPPLEHEAD"
During the Dangerous Deposition he had to state his full name in court and he stated "Michael Joseph Jackson".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_rTHWUL3s)

During the 2005 trial he had to state his full name and it was MICHAEL JOE JACKSON.
Its all on tape.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Melzy777 on December 13, 2009, 07:12:22 AM
like I said in the other thread, I posted the BMI stuff on MJHD ages ago.
Here's my old post. Damn you MJHD for closing down. *hmph*  But thank you google cache for saving info!!  :lol:
(strangely though, it seems so much longer ago that I posted this.. oh well.)

Post by Melzy777 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:16 pm
And the BMI publishing site does NOT have a Michael Joseph Jackson listed.
They only have Michael Jackson, Michael J Jackson, and Michael Joe Jackson. If MJ was ever going to use "Michael Joseph Jackson" then that would have to be on there too..
all JACKSON+MICHAEL (http://http://repertoire.bmi.com/writersearch.asp?fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=Jackson%20Michael&querytype=WriterName&keyid=0&page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&affiliation=&cae=)

CAE/IPI #: 523553664
JACKSON MICHAEL (http://http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=523553664&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL&querytype=WriterID)

CAE/IPI #: 523553762
JACKSON MICHAEL J (http://http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=523553762&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20J&querytype=WriterID)

CAE/IPI #: 2961801
JACKSON MICHAEL JOE (http://http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID)

These 3 different aliases, each with a different CAE/IPI number cover the 3 names MJ would/could use. These are legal names.
As we can see there's no Michael Joseph Jackson.


**And, like I just said in the other thread, If there were a Michael Joseph at BMI.com then I'd be posting it here too. But there isn't one.. And, there really SHOULD be if Michael was using Joseph for any legal reason.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 07:23:22 AM
Ok here we go...
My name is Kimberley
On my Current Passport  it says Kimberley Anne (Surname)
On my Driving license it says Kim (surname)
On my birth certificate says Kimberley Anne (surname)
On my old passport says Kim Anne (Surname)
On my bank cards Kimberly (Spelt wrong) KIM on another. and K.A (Surname) on another

OK im English but i also have a USA work Visa and residency my Visa document says Kimberley Anne (Surname)
My Green card (Residency card) Says Kim A (Surname)

I dont think its such a big deal and i have never had any problems and its my FIRST name not even my middle name..
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Melzy777 on December 13, 2009, 07:34:51 AM
Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 07:41:22 AM
Quote from: "Melzy777"
Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.

I agree i forgot to mention actually my middle name is spelt incorrectly on my passport it should be Kimberley AnnE  but they missed the E of Anne so it reads Kimberley Ann and actually that is a pet peeve of mine all my documents are different sometimes the E in KimberlEy is also missed out.
So conclusion for me is that MJ is..........
Michael Joseph Jackson  (Legal Name)
He shortened it to
Michael JOE Jackson  (Because he could)

PS Melzy thanks for replying to me i feel less invisible now!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 13, 2009, 07:59:53 AM
I see your point of view, Kim. However while in court you would have to state your full name and Michael previously used Joseph but after 2003 he used Joe. This is in writing and on tape.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Melzy777 on December 13, 2009, 08:07:32 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "Melzy777"
Kim, I think the old argument was that legally you can shorten your name to Kim, but you can't lengthen it to Kimberly.
So, Michael Joseph could shorten it to Joe, but Michael Joe could not lengthen it to Joseph.

I agree i forgot to mention actually my middle name is spelt incorrectly on my passport it should be Kimberley AnnE  but they missed the E of Anne so it reads Kimberley Ann and actually that is a pet peeve of mine all my documents are different sometimes the E in KimberlEy is also missed out.
So conclusion for me is that MJ is..........
Michael Joseph Jackson  (Legal Name)
He shortened it to
Michael JOE Jackson  (Because he could)

PS Melzy thanks for replying to me i feel less invisible now!!!  :lol:

That would get annoying. I like Anne with the e on the end too. My surname is long, and rare, and so many people spell it wrong. It really annoys me. So, I have to be extra careful when I write it down or spell it out. Of course, I can see the bonus in being able to say "Oh, that's not me. That's not how I spell my surname"  :lol:
But, a judge would just laugh and say "95% of other details we have here match up to you, so too bad."  :roll:

And,  I always thought MJ was Michael Joseph. So I don't know which one to choose.. Because...
A,) Michael Joe: Michael hates Joe as his middle name, it sounds so unprofessional, so he lengthens it to Joseph whenever he can because he's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things.
B,) Michael Joseph: Michael hates Joseph as his middle name, because that's what he had to call his father as a child, so he shortens it to Joe whenever he can, which sounds more down to earth, because he's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things.
C,) What's it matter?? Michael/Jack/Manuel/Omar/Paul/Jimmy/Peter etcetc has so many aliases that Joe or Joseph is irrelevant.  :lol:  What? Don't laugh. He's the King of Pop, and when you're the King of Pop you can do these things!

(and, thanks for replying me. Same deal! hahaha!)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
Also in the movie "An american dream" When MJ is born Katherine say his name is Michael Joseph and as she was a co producer on the movie im pretty sure she knows what she named her son.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: DaTrootWillPrevail on December 13, 2009, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Also in the movie "An american dream" When MJ is born Katherine say his name is Michael Joseph and as she was a co producer on the movie im pretty sure she knows what she named her son.

but i ever read on a post *forget where's that*
people said that Katherine said his middle name is joe ...
now im getting very confuse  :?  :?  :?  :?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
After a day of researching this i have come to the conclusion that i am more and more confused by it...
Im sure his Gravestone would say his full real name!!! OH WAIT a minute his gravestone is unmarked!!
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 13, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
I really have to scratch my head, I miss that smiley....
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on December 13, 2009, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: "DaTrootWillPrevail"
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Also in the movie "An american dream" When MJ is born Katherine say his name is Michael Joseph and as she was a co producer on the movie im pretty sure she knows what she named her son.

but i ever read on a post *forget where's that*
people said that Katherine said his middle name is joe ...
now im getting very confuse  :?  :?  :?  :?
ON TMZ SECTION I POSTED A TOPIC OF THIS SAME THING... AND SOMEONE PUT THE VIDEO WHEN KATHERINE SAIS MICHAEL JOE ;)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: serendipity on December 13, 2009, 03:20:07 PM
Take a look at this...a site for song copyrights...

http://www.faqs.org/copyright/dance-and ... n-randall/ (http://www.faqs.org/copyright/dance-and-shout-by-michael-joe-jackson-steven-randall/)

http://www.faqs.org/copyright/joyful-ju ... #id7758784 (http://www.faqs.org/copyright/joyful-jukebox-music-artist-the-jackson-5-featuring-michael-4/#id7758784)

...scroll down to "Backseat Lover..." you'll see Michael Joseph Jackson 1949- :?:  (What's this?)

Note: Michael Joe Jackson is listed 1958-    ( not year of death...) :?:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on December 13, 2009, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: "serendipity"
Take a look at this...a site for song copyrights...

http://www.faqs.org/copyright/dance-and ... n-randall/ (http://www.faqs.org/copyright/dance-and-shout-by-michael-joe-jackson-steven-randall/)

http://www.faqs.org/copyright/joyful-ju ... #id7758784 (http://www.faqs.org/copyright/joyful-jukebox-music-artist-the-jackson-5-featuring-michael-4/#id7758784)

...scroll down to "Backseat Lover..." you'll see Michael Joseph Jackson 1949- :?:  (What's this?)

Note: Michael Joe Jackson is listed 1958-    ( not year of death...) :?:

OK SO WE HAVE
MICHAEL JACKSON 1958
MICHAEL JOE JACKSON 1958
MICHAEL K JACKSON 1964
MICHAEL T JACKSON 1958
MICHAEL ANDRE JACKSON 1958
1958- Tolnar pseud. Michael Jackson
MICHAEL E. JACKSON 1958
MIKE JACKSON
Michael Wade Jackson 1953- pseud. J. T. Jackson
MICHAEL JACKSON 1952
MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON 1949


RARE THINKS:
Dance and shout. By Michael Joe Jackson
CUSH COOK, REMEMBER THIS CUSH IS MINE? :roll:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on December 28, 2009, 04:11:28 PM
FBI FILES SAIS MICHAEL JOE JACKSON BUT IF YOU PUT THE MOUSSE ON THE NAME A POP UP SAIS MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON :?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: karralyn on December 30, 2009, 10:00:02 PM
Hello everyone,
   I just finished watching "The Jacksons" mini-series.  In the movie, when Michael was born, Kathryn and her mom named him Michael JOE Jackson.  As I said, this was in the movie.
karralyn
Title: Re: His Children's Birth Certificate
Post by: Truth_Freedom on December 30, 2009, 11:09:25 PM
You will trust a movie faster than you trust documentation of his will and his children's birth certificate who list Michael Joseph Jackson as thier father who names his two sons Michael Joeseph Jackson.

(http://http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/paris-jackson-birth-certificate.png)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Truth_Freedom on December 30, 2009, 11:11:36 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
(http://http://pic1.dbw.cn/0/00/10/11/101171_660121.jpg)



(http://http://power953.com/images/2009/07/mj-will_o.jpg)

The Will says M Joseph.
Title: Re: The Will Signature
Post by: Truth_Freedom on December 30, 2009, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
(http://http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/10/1021_mj_will_sig_03_hilite_ex_02.jpg)


The Signature of the Will. If Joeseph is not legit. Than the will is not legit which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: hope on December 30, 2009, 11:30:14 PM
In Katherines book, she also says his name is Michael Joe . :?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Truth_Freedom on December 30, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
My mother only called me by the first 3 letter of my name when she calls me. Other times she called me by my first and middle name. However in school my teachers and at work my co workers call me by first name although my middle name is legit. Because my bank statement does not include my middle name, does it make my drivers license invalid because the name is totally different from birth certificate and my ID at the bank? I still get around in the USA. Is the will not legit? Are the certificates of his children not legit?

PS: I really wish that people would stop referring to her as "Katherine". She is an 80 year old woman. She is Mrs. Jackson, Mother Katherine or Mother Jackson or just say her full name instead of acting like you are on a first name basis with her. I am not singling you out but it is SOOOOOOO disrespectful.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Slaver on December 31, 2009, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
My mother only called me by the first 3 letter of my name when she calls me. Other times she called me by my first and middle name. However in school my teachers and at work my co workers call me by first name although my middle name is legit. Because my bank statement does not include my middle name, does it make my drivers license invalid because the name is totally different from birth certificate and my ID at the bank? I still get around in the USA. Is the will not legit? Are the certificates of his children not legit?

PS: I really wish that people would stop referring to her as "Katherine". She is an 80 year old woman. She is Mrs. Jackson, Mother Katherine or Mother Jackson or just say her full name instead of acting like you are on a first name basis with her. I am not singling you out but it is SOOOOOOO disrespectful.


Hi all  :lol:

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There do I upload the below link.

http://mjjforum.it/forum/doppio-nome-jo ... 044-2.html (http://mjjforum.it/forum/doppio-nome-joe-o-joseph-t13044-2.html)

Give us a look and make me know what you think.

Thank you  :P
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 01, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"

PS: I really wish that people would stop referring to her as "Katherine". She is an 80 year old woman. She is Mrs. Jackson, Mother Katherine or Mother Jackson or just say her full name instead of acting like you are on a first name basis with her. I am not singling you out but it is SOOOOOOO disrespectful.

Oh, and what about Joe?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Truth_Freedom on January 01, 2010, 03:29:27 PM
Papa Joe is what he is known as.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Shout on January 01, 2010, 09:57:04 PM
So, I came to a conclusion that both names  are maybe right Joe (as a   shortcut of Joseph compare it with his father who is always called Joe although his fullname is Joseph!) and Joseph , but there is no doubt that Michael was born as Michael Joseph Jackson. It is maybe right that Michael uses Joe as his stagename although I have never seen it before. I have also two names sometimes I use the one and another time the other when it is more official (the names souds to outsiders totaly different although they are both my names, one is official the other is not). I do not want to make it public, but it is possible and I have never had problems with that (in Germany). I hope we can go on with our investigations.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: clarahowhope on January 02, 2010, 10:49:03 AM
We sometimes, call his father Joe Jackson, but it's Joseph Jackson, no?

It's the same
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on July 11, 2010, 10:28:33 PM
michael joe jackson status: ALIVE LOL!
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3404703252.html (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3404703252.html)

joe jackson, other musicican born in august 1954...  second album: I´m the Man ( :lol: we know who the Man is... LOL!)
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3494000052.html (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3494000052.html)

then in my research this pop up i don´t know why, joe is not listed there, interesting comment BTW
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3494000052.html (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3494000052.html)

is JOE... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 11, 2010, 10:51:36 PM
someone correct me if i'm wrong but didn't we also learn from american dream that joe was married before katherine?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: KacyLovesMJ on July 12, 2010, 01:21:01 AM
Just to add my 2 cents in here. lol I also believe his middle name is legally Joe for a few reasons but the biggest one is that the FBI files (which would have to have the true full name) states that his true full name is Michael Joe Jackson.

For those stating that it could just be a short version, this cannot be legal, no matter how many attorneys tell you that it's ok. If "Michael Joe Jackson" is on his BC, that is what they have to go by for the DC and all other legal documents. My ex stepdad's name is Danny. If he were to fake his death and his DC said "Daniel", and then he was found or decided to come back, he could legally fight that because his BC says, "Danny". Yes, Danny is short for Daniel but Daniel is not his name. Same would apply here. :)
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: MJonmind on July 12, 2010, 01:48:47 AM
I always thought it was interesting that in the DD in LKL interview, "Michael" says he changed his name to free himself from the confines of his father's legacy, something like that, albeit through the mouth of supposedly DD. Could he be referring to changing from Joseph to Joe or vica versa?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on July 12, 2010, 07:08:22 AM
In the court they say JOE, he change his name to JOE, maybe his Birth name was Joseph but he change to JOE. I don´t think that this was related with his father and all that because he is JOE too, if the changed name was to make it different from his father he would chose some other name, i think that the change name is to create confussion :roll:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: suspicious mind on July 12, 2010, 07:39:50 AM
both of micheals marriages took place outside of the us right?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: sweet1 on July 12, 2010, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
both of micheals marriages took place outside of the us right?

Yes! I believe so!   LMP was in Brazil or ? He flew Debbie Rowe over to wherever he was touring at the time in Europe. Keep the Faith!
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: Melzy777 on July 13, 2010, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: "sweet1"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
both of micheals marriages took place outside of the us right?

Yes! I believe so!   LMP was in Brazil or ? He flew Debbie Rowe over to wherever he was touring at the time in Europe. Keep the Faith!
thanks to google..
Lisa Marie - De La Vega, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

Debbie - Sydney, Australia.
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: sweet1 on July 13, 2010, 08:41:34 AM
Quote from: "Melzy777"
Quote from: "sweet1"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
both of micheals marriages took place outside of the us right?

Yes! I believe so!   LMP was in Brazil or ? He flew Debbie Rowe over to wherever he was touring at the time in Europe. Keep the Faith!
thanks to google..
Lisa Marie - De La Vega, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

Debbie - Sydney, Australia.

Thank you for looking it up!  Keep the Faith!
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on September 03, 2010, 10:19:56 PM
I´M WATCHING BAD (FULL VERSION OF HISTORY I) AND AT THE BEGGINING THE CALL HIM JOE COLLEGE!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: bec on September 03, 2010, 11:38:29 PM
Am I on the wrong thread?

What does this update have to do with TMZ or confirmation of anything?
Title: Re: TMZ SEPT 3:his LEGAL name JOE! CONFIRMED!
Post by: CC on September 04, 2010, 09:25:35 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Am I on the wrong thread?

What does this update have to do with TMZ or confirmation of anything?

SEPT 3 2009 TMZ SAY THAT HIS LEGAL NAME IS JOE... DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEOS ON FIRST POST?  ;)
BUT I PUT THIS OTHER POST HERE BECAUSE I SAW THE JOE THING IN BAD VIDEO AND THINK TO PUT IT HERE... JUST THAT... SORRY!
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