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Title: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on December 15, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
[youtube:25bdrkto]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Wj4d7mhz0[/youtube:25bdrkto]

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This is more than a seasonal view of Neverland. Watch to the end. this is a call to ARMS to set the M.J.J. Innocent record straight for the NON-fans. Fans of MJJ and Fans of Justice... 5 years after the Jury said NOT GUILTY, and the malicious prosecutors of Santa Barbara were thoroughly defeated, by a mostly white Jury, 14-0 against a black man, M.J.J. most People do NOT know how bias and corrupt the Main Stream American Media, and the District Attorneys office was. Just after Christmas a New WEB site to coordinate the true to the record Documentary of the 2005 INQUISITION of Michael J. JACKSON, will appear and give information on how 1 - 2 million fans can choose or not choose to fund, at ten dollars, each that documentary. We hope to raise that money in a single week. Thomas Mesereau, who I call "Hurricane" Mesereau for his blowing away and the smoke, mirrors and crappy lies and so called "Evidence" in 2005 has endorsed that effort on a Live TV show done in Santa Maria, CA. on Dec. 10th, 2010. Let me add, that "Hurricane" Mesereau was paid nothing to spend 6 hours of his own expensive time driving to and from, nor did he even ask to have his motel room paid. He simply wanted a one on one interview. He would not participate in the National trash "media" in one of those panel of atty's. rudely cutting each other off, which of course could also edit out his words. We did a one on one marathon interview. It is running on local TV Ch. 25 Comcast in Santa Maria, Ca. now and on Ch 24 in Solvang, Buelton & Lompoc Ca. When the new Web site for the documentary is established [ we will not even tell you the name until Dec. 27th ] instructions on how fans of Justice and fans of Michael Joe Jackson around the world can be a part of the FUNDING, of this documentary, which will accurately follow the court record, but also show what the court record could not. The media bias, the set ups, and worse.

Then we will buy TV commercial AIR time, and AIR the Documentary. We will depict the significant events of the Trial and the circumstances around the trial.
Not for the gratification of MJJ fans, but to clear the air, Educate the deceived NON-fans on the TRUTH. Michael Joe Jackson was NOT guilty, in fact he was
the victim of an arrogant, self delusional Prosecutor, and a greedy family of grifters, and a media who was billions in profits in a conviction of even a misdemeanor. Who am I? I am William J. Wagener, a local TV producer, who attended more days of the trial, nearly every day, than any National report. And after trial did a lot of snooping among the media, which mostly did NOT know who I was.

You read this to the end. Watch this clip to the end, and then go see on my channel here. "Tom Hurricane Mesereau". If your a fan of justice or MJJ Share this with those who care. If your NOT a MJJ fan, think of this... if Michael, with all his money, connections, and fame can have an "inquisition" like 2005 done to him, and the aftermath of nay sayers in the Media tabloidish types asking the
ridiculous question, "how could the Jury get it wrong?" THEN... if you were innocent and given the same treatment... what chance would you have? And if you lacked money , lacked fans, threatened with shear
lies and a Media that is paid to make you look guilty... could you prove your innocence? When you run out of money and your Public Defender-pretender threatens to quit if you do not take a PLEA BARGAN ? Could you even find a Tom "Hurricane" Mesereau to fight, to research, to prove your innocence? "Ye shall know the Truth , and the Truth shall set you Free".

the converse is also true. If you believe the lies and Deception, you will be a Slave to lies and deception.

I and those who stand with me, like Thomas "Hurricane" Mesereau, and thousands of you fans who have already told me your ready to give $10.oo or more... the moment of Truth is rapidly approaching. This is a Time of Great
REVEALATION. WE MUST DO this Documentary and reveal the Truth, not just for Michael Joe Jackson's sake, for his reputation's sake, but for all the children that will suffer needlessly if we allow Lies and Deception to win.

All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing. Ask a friend to SUBSCRIBE and Watch your subscription box for the kick off.

Peace
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 15, 2010, 05:58:42 PM
Reminder to watch and read later (geez that seems like a standard sentence now, I need more hours in a day).
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 15, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
Thanks for this video and info. First of all i wish Michael & his kids still own Neverland. And if this is not the case i hope he'd be behind this project.This could be a good project. I would like to support this and i really would like to know more about this. I guess there must be done a lot to realize this goal. What is the source? Who's organizing this? Is there an implementation plan available? Is it achievable or is it just an impulsive unprepared out-of-the-blue project? Shouldn't we obtain more relevant info before we support and subscribe this project? Does anyone know more about this?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on December 15, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
Thanks for this video and info. First of all i wish Michael & his kids still own Neverland. And if this is not the case i hope he'd be behind this project.This could be a good project. I would like to support this and i really would like to know more about this. I guess there must be done a lot to realize this goal. What is the source? Who's organizing this? Is there an implementation plan available? Is it achievable or is it just an impulsive unprepared out-of-the-blue project? Shouldn't we obtain more relevant info before we support and subscribe this project? Does anyone know more about this?

Your welcome

If you read the info I posted and watch the video, the questions you have will be answered. Yes this man William Wagener is a reliable source.

Peace
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: paula-c on December 15, 2010, 06:25:52 PM
I'm willing to do my part, God bless Mr. Wagener, thanks for posting  Im_convincedmjalive
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: truthprevails on December 15, 2010, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
I'm willing to do my part, God bless Mr. Wagener, thanks for posting  Im_convincedmjalive

Same here. I really respect William Wagener for what he's trying to do. For those who are not too familiar with him, this is a man on a mission to vindicate Michael (in the eyes of those who are still ignorant) and spread the truth. Here's his YouTube channel, where you can also find a good and recent interview with Mesereau (and other interesting stuff):  

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: paula-c on December 15, 2010, 07:12:45 PM
Thanks for posting that link truthprevails ;)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: RK on December 15, 2010, 07:16:40 PM
Thankyou for posting this. Michael has some amazing friends and supporters. Mr Wagner and the wonderful Mr Messerau have my utmost respect. It would be fantastic to see all factions come together over this. Hoaxers, rippers, justice, fans and anyone with a social conscience.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: a18wheelslady on December 15, 2010, 07:55:05 PM
This is a SUPER idea.
want to see more about this.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on December 15, 2010, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
Quote from: "paula-c"
I'm willing to do my part, God bless Mr. Wagener, thanks for posting  Im_convincedmjalive

Same here. I really respect William Wagener for what he's trying to do. For those who are not too familiar with him, this is a man on a mission to vindicate Michael (in the eyes of those who are still ignorant) and spread the truth. Here's his YouTube channel, where you can also find a good and recent interview with Mesereau (and other interesting stuff):  

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener)
Yes thank you for posting the youtube channel, I forgot.

We got to keep an eye out for the news on Dec. 27th, that's when he will post the website info.

I believe this will come to fruitation.

Peace
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 15, 2010, 11:26:56 PM
Count me in. This video needs to be spread by social networking sites. Let's rally behind this and take back Neverland for Michael and vindicate Michael in the process. This is what I promised to do when I still thought Michael was dead. How much greater of a gift knowing that Michael is alive to see the L.O.V.E. and support.

Blessings!
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: 6Bpeople on December 16, 2010, 05:53:19 AM
it's seems to be a great idea in deed!
by the way, maybe I missed something but could someone tell me why is there that date appearing round 1:06
Dec.11,2012
3:3 Pm
thank u
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on December 16, 2010, 06:24:36 AM
I love William Wagener and his videos.....especially the ones regarding Michael.  I haven't really gotten into the other ones that he does, but he certainly does not pussy foot around the issues.  He also is raising money to press charges against Sneedon and the DA's office for fraud and evidence tampering, and maybe some other things too.  We definitely need to keep on top of what he is up to.

I saw the Dec. 11, 2012 date too.  He may have meant Dec. 11, 2010, at 3:30 pm, as the date and time they were at Neverland.  But, that would make it a coincidence, so IDK..... 8-)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: thepeacock2012 on December 16, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Sounds good Wagener! ;)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 16, 2010, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
Quote from: "paula-c"
I'm willing to do my part, God bless Mr. Wagener, thanks for posting  Im_convincedmjalive

Same here. I really respect William Wagener for what he's trying to do. For those who are not too familiar with him, this is a man on a mission to vindicate Michael (in the eyes of those who are still ignorant) and spread the truth. Here's his YouTube channel, where you can also find a good and recent interview with Mesereau (and other interesting stuff):  

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener)

Thanks for this YT link. May be I was asking some critical questions, because I wasn't familiar with William Wagener and OST TV, which is obviously highlighting the other (good) side of the news and has not the media hype style. He doing a good job, same as Tom Mesereau!
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 16, 2010, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: "6Bpeople"
it's seems to be a great idea in deed!
by the way, maybe I missed something but could someone tell me why is there that date appearing round 1:06
Dec.11,2012
3:3 Pm
thank u


Good catch  :shock:   I thought I saw it when I first viewed it, I just went back and checked at 1:06 and you are right it is there  :o   :o   :shock:   Dec. 11, 2012 at 3.30 pm!   :shock:   What dose this me?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 16, 2010, 11:33:21 AM
Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
I love William Wagener and his videos.....especially the ones regarding Michael.  I haven't really gotten into the other ones that he does, but he certainly does not pussy foot around the issues.  He also is raising money to press charges against Sneedon and the DA's office for fraud and evidence tampering, and maybe some other things too.  We definitely need to keep on top of what he is up to.

I saw the Dec. 11, 2012 date too.  He may have meant Dec. 11, 2010, at 3:30 pm, as the date and time they were at Neverland.  But, that would make it a coincidence, so IDK..... 8-)


But when typing the 2  IS in a different place on the keyboard to the 0  if you use both hands to type! and the 0 is on the left hand and the 2 is on the right hand so more difficult to do by coincidence IMO :?
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 16, 2010, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
[youtube:1za9dk4s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Wj4d7mhz0[/youtube:1za9dk4s]

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This is more than a seasonal view of Neverland. Watch to the end. this is a call to ARMS to set the M.J.J. Innocent record straight for the NON-fans. Fans of MJJ and Fans of Justice... 5 years after the Jury said NOT GUILTY, and the malicious prosecutors of Santa Barbara were thoroughly defeated, by a mostly white Jury, 14-0 against a black man, M.J.J. most People do NOT know how bias and corrupt the Main Stream American Media, and the District Attorneys office was. Just after Christmas a New WEB site to coordinate the true to the record Documentary of the 2005 INQUISITION of Michael J. JACKSON, will appear and give information on how 1 - 2 million fans can choose or not choose to fund, at ten dollars, each that documentary. We hope to raise that money in a single week. Thomas Mesereau, who I call "Hurricane" Mesereau for his blowing away and the smoke, mirrors and crappy lies and so called "Evidence" in 2005 has endorsed that effort on a Live TV show done in Santa Maria, CA. on Dec. 10th, 2010. Let me add, that "Hurricane" Mesereau was paid nothing to spend 6 hours of his own expensive time driving to and from, nor did he even ask to have his motel room paid. He simply wanted a one on one interview. He would not participate in the National trash "media" in one of those panel of atty's. rudely cutting each other off, which of course could also edit out his words. We did a one on one marathon interview. It is running on local TV Ch. 25 Comcast in Santa Maria, Ca. now and on Ch 24 in Solvang, Buelton & Lompoc Ca. When the new Web site for the documentary is established [ we will not even tell you the name until Dec. 27th ] instructions on how fans of Justice and fans of Michael Joe Jackson around the world can be a part of the FUNDING, of this documentary, which will accurately follow the court record, but also show what the court record could not. The media bias, the set ups, and worse.

Then we will buy TV commercial AIR time, and AIR the Documentary. We will depict the significant events of the Trial and the circumstances around the trial.
Not for the gratification of MJJ fans, but to clear the air, Educate the deceived NON-fans on the TRUTH. Michael Joe Jackson was NOT guilty, in fact he was
the victim of an arrogant, self delusional Prosecutor, and a greedy family of grifters, and a media who was billions in profits in a conviction of even a misdemeanor. Who am I? I am William J. Wagener, a local TV producer, who attended more days of the trial, nearly every day, than any National report. And after trial did a lot of snooping among the media, which mostly did NOT know who I was.

You read this to the end. Watch this clip to the end, and then go see on my channel here. "Tom Hurricane Mesereau". If your a fan of justice or MJJ Share this with those who care. If your NOT a MJJ fan, think of this... if Michael, with all his money, connections, and fame can have an "inquisition" like 2005 done to him, and the aftermath of nay sayers in the Media tabloidish types asking the
ridiculous question, "how could the Jury get it wrong?" THEN... if you were innocent and given the same treatment... what chance would you have? And if you lacked money , lacked fans, threatened with shear
lies and a Media that is paid to make you look guilty... could you prove your innocence? When you run out of money and your Public Defender-pretender threatens to quit if you do not take a PLEA BARGAN ? Could you even find a Tom "Hurricane" Mesereau to fight, to research, to prove your innocence? "Ye shall know the Truth , and the Truth shall set you Free".

the converse is also true. If you believe the lies and Deception, you will be a Slave to lies and deception.

I and those who stand with me, like Thomas "Hurricane" Mesereau, and thousands of you fans who have already told me your ready to give $10.oo or more... the moment of Truth is rapidly approaching. This is a Time of Great
REVEALATION. WE MUST DO this Documentary and reveal the Truth, not just for Michael Joe Jackson's sake, for his reputation's sake, but for all the children that will suffer needlessly if we allow Lies and Deception to win.

All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing. Ask a friend to SUBSCRIBE and Watch your subscription box for the kick off.

Peace


This video would be a good thing to place on the Army of Love web site Souza dont you think  :D
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 16, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
Great suggestion about adding it to the Army of Love website. If anyone has a twitter or Facebook those are also great places to post this video. I've already done so with mine. Blessings.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Andrea on December 16, 2010, 12:44:49 PM
I commend Mr. Wagener for taking the initiative to do a documentary to show everyone that Michael has always been innocent.  Having said that, I realize it would be expensive to buy tv time for commercials and to actually air the program, I am always leery of someone asking for money - and $10.00 each from 1-2 million fans?  That's a LOT of money and it seemed like the last sentence was a bit of a guilt trip, "All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing."  For me personally, I'm going to wait and see what happens on the 27th and hopefully I'll be in a better position of understanding to make my decision then.  $10 isn't a lot of money to one person (generally) but if 1-2 million people each donated that, it really adds up and I need to know that the money will be used for what it's supposed to be used for and not someone taking advantage of Michael's fans.

As for Neverland itself, I think Michael has his owns plans for that and I do think it will always be open to all the children of the world.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: cin_pyt on December 16, 2010, 12:56:30 PM
yey Wagener! Michael's name must be cleared from those charge these ppl who accused him deserve punishment and to be prosecuted you cannot accuse people falsely and get away with it. Non fans shall see the man was innocent all along.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 16, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
I commend Mr. Wagener for taking the initiative to do a documentary to show everyone that Michael has always been innocent.  Having said that, I realize it would be expensive to buy tv time for commercials and to actually air the program, I am always leery of someone asking for money - and $10.00 each from 1-2 million fans?  That's a LOT of money and it seemed like the last sentence was a bit of a guilt trip, "All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing."  For me personally, I'm going to wait and see what happens on the 27th and hopefully I'll be in a better position of understanding to make my decision then.  $10 isn't a lot of money to one person (generally) but if 1-2 million people each donated that, it really adds up and I need to know that the money will be used for what it's supposed to be used for and not someone taking advantage of Michael's fans.

As for Neverland itself, I think Michael has his owns plans for that and I do think it will always be open to all the children of the world.

I agree, Andrea, that it's a lot of money but what one person cannot accomplish, an army can. I don't think he's playing on guilt. He's been an advocate of Michael for a long time - even more so than a lot of us on this forum. I believe his intentions are honorable but it's up to you to decide. I also think that it would be an awesome gesture of love and support to take back Neverland for Michael and when he returns he'll have it as a gift from his faithful Army of L.O.V.E.

I guess I see it as an opportunity to act upon my words and show just how much I care. For me, it's another chance to right a horrible wrong.

Blessings on your day.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Andrea on December 16, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "Andrea"
I commend Mr. Wagener for taking the initiative to do a documentary to show everyone that Michael has always been innocent.  Having said that, I realize it would be expensive to buy tv time for commercials and to actually air the program, I am always leery of someone asking for money - and $10.00 each from 1-2 million fans?  That's a LOT of money and it seemed like the last sentence was a bit of a guilt trip, "All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing."  For me personally, I'm going to wait and see what happens on the 27th and hopefully I'll be in a better position of understanding to make my decision then.  $10 isn't a lot of money to one person (generally) but if 1-2 million people each donated that, it really adds up and I need to know that the money will be used for what it's supposed to be used for and not someone taking advantage of Michael's fans.

As for Neverland itself, I think Michael has his owns plans for that and I do think it will always be open to all the children of the world.

I agree, Andrea, that it's a lot of money but what one person cannot accomplish, an army can. I don't think he's playing on guilt. He's been an advocate of Michael for a long time - even more so than a lot of us on this forum. I believe his intentions are honorable but it's up to you to decide. I also think that it would be an awesome gesture of love and support to take back Neverland for Michael and when he returns he'll have it as a gift from his faithful Army of L.O.V.E.

I guess I see it as an opportunity to act upon my words and show just how much I care. For me, it's another chance to right a horrible wrong.

Blessings on your day.

Ya I see what you're saying and I agree that Wagener's mission needs help and he can't do it by himself.  I tend to believe that he is wanting to do this for the right reasons but I will still wait until the 27th to make a decision, once I see more I think I will feel more comfortable with my decision.  

Blessings to you too!
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: 6Bpeople on December 16, 2010, 02:44:43 PM
Good catch   I thought I saw it when I first viewed it, I just went back and checked at 1:06 and you are right it is there       Dec. 11, 2012 at 3.30 pm!   What dose this me?

ok, I tried this on Google : "11 décembre 2012" and found this :

the site propose to answer the question; "what would you do on dec 11 2012"... funny isn't it?

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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:50:09
Moi je pense que je me ferais un paquet où je mettrais des objets précieux et de survie.
Je ne vais pas dormir de la nuit et vous ?
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TheJacksonsFive
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:51:45
Je me mettrai sur le toit pour apprécier la fin du monde  


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kazuya14
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:52:04
ouais, très curieux perso! on vera bien si les mayas...
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Lavezzi
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:52:09
Je me referai tous les Fallout les 3, 4 semaines précédentes pour être bien préparer.
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Namikaze-Naruto
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:52:10
Ou alors tu t'achète un cerveaux et t'arrête de faire la commère sur des choses qui te dépasse et qui sont loin d'être ce que tu crois.


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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:52:46
C'est le 21 le soit disant "doomsday".
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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:53:50
Aucune fin du monde en 2012   Vous croyez vraiment à ces sous-êtres et cannibales que sont les mayas?  
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Namikaze-Naruto
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:54:17
Le 11 décembre c'est la fin d'une ère le début d'une autre.

Point final y a pas de fin du monde y a pas de si ou de ça.


Au pire des cas les poles magnétique s'inverse et la planète mute des terre ressorte des terres passe sous l'eau.

Sa s'arrête là. Et c'est dans le pire des cas. Un changement de poles magnétique est une chose peu probable.


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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:54:36
Et oui c'est pas le 11 mais 21 decembre  
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dstarMDA
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:55:10
Je jouerai à Halo.

Comme tous les jours.
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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:55:18
Je serais sur GDC  
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Namikaze-Naruto
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# APHELION Voir le profil de APHELION
# Posté le 07 juin 2009 à 19:53:50 Avertir un modérateur
# Aucune fin du monde en 2012   Vous croyez vraiment à ces sous-êtres et cannibales que sont les mayas?  

 Sa par contre c'est bêtes. Il ont vécu dans un temps oublié où on ne sait ce qui c'est passé. Il ont peut être eut accès un a savoir qui même aujourd'hui nous dépasse donc un peu de respet pour ce peuple.


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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:56:00
Et ca a des effets sur le corps humain un changement de poles magnétiques ?  
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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:56:04
moi je preparerais 2 ou 3 bombes atomiques, au cas ou ce serais pas vrai, pour que personne soit deçus  
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# Ignorer dstarMDA dstarMDA Voir le profil de dstarMDA
# Posté le 07 juin 2009 à 19:55:10 Avertir un modérateur
# Je jouerai à Halo.

Comme tous les jours.

 En 2012 ? Tu believes trop, mon jeune ami.  
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Alexlecj
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# Je jouerai à Halo.

Comme tous les jours.

En 2012 ? Tu believes trop, mon jeune ami.

A Halo Reach.
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Lavezzi
Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:58:48
À Halo 5, ou alors tu seras tombé sous le charme du live de Gears of War 3  
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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:58:55
Aucune fin du monde en 2012   Vous croyez vraiment à ces sous-êtres et cannibales que sont les mayas?  


et la légende des crane de cristal ses du pipo aussi enfin je croit mais apparemment il y en a 2 ou 3 je sais plus qui sont vrai et les autre sont des faut
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Posté le 7 juin 2009 à 19:59:05
Hmmm beaucoup de peut être que ...
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Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: 6Bpeople on December 16, 2010, 02:47:06 PM
sorry I should have cut it a little.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: 6Bpeople on December 16, 2010, 02:56:41 PM
someone named "the jackson five" says something like ; " I will be on top of the roof to enjoy the end of the world" and it reminds me the cover of the DESTINY album!http://d.yimg.com/ec/image/v1/release/187955894;encoding=jpg;size=300;fallback=defaultImage
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 16, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: "6Bpeople"
someone named "the jackson five" says something like ; " I will be on top of the roof to enjoy the end of the world" and it reminds me the cover of the DESTINY album!http://d.yimg.com/ec/image/v1/release/187955894;encoding=jpg;size=300;fallback=defaultImage

Well, that is an interesting thought. Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on December 16, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
Quote from: "paula-c"
I'm willing to do my part, God bless Mr. Wagener, thanks for posting  Im_convincedmjalive

Same here. I really respect William Wagener for what he's trying to do. For those who are not too familiar with him, this is a man on a mission to vindicate Michael (in the eyes of those who are still ignorant) and spread the truth. Here's his YouTube channel, where you can also find a good and recent interview with Mesereau (and other interesting stuff):  

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener)


There should be more like this wonderful man, in this world. We are so prompt to convict a person without any proof what so ever. god bless this man. Michael would never hurt a fly..
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on December 16, 2010, 03:59:26 PM
:D
Thank you everyone for taking the time to watch the video and read what William has proposed.

We can do this. Trust and believe.  :mrgreen:

I saw the date also as Dec. 2012, I said hmmm what?  :?
I posted this video to my twitter and facebook as well.

Peace
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: mjssoulmate on December 16, 2010, 08:21:08 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
I commend Mr. Wagener for taking the initiative to do a documentary to show everyone that Michael has always been innocent.  Having said that, I realize it would be expensive to buy tv time for commercials and to actually air the program, I am always leery of someone asking for money - and $10.00 each from 1-2 million fans?  That's a LOT of money and it seemed like the last sentence was a bit of a guilt trip, "All that is necessary for Evil to win, is for people of good spirit, to do nothing."  For me personally, I'm going to wait and see what happens on the 27th and hopefully I'll be in a better position of understanding to make my decision then.  $10 isn't a lot of money to one person (generally) but if 1-2 million people each donated that, it really adds up and I need to know that the money will be used for what it's supposed to be used for and not someone taking advantage of Michael's fans.

As for Neverland itself, I think Michael has his owns plans for that and I do think it will always be open to all the children of the world.

I agree with you.  Personally, I am very leery of people asking for money,  as you said $ 10.00 isn't much to an individual, but add it all up, and someone might get rich by taking advantage of fan's emotions.  I hear pathos, but no ethos or logos.  Who is this guy?  And to do what he proposes to do to Neverland would mean to buy or rent Neverland. To film a documentary isn't all that much.  Don't know what it would cost to buy airtime.  I really have doubts about this.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: skyways on December 16, 2010, 08:48:05 PM
Quote from: Im_convincedmjalive
[youtube:22fajiun]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Wj4d7mhz0[/youtube:22fajiun]

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This is more than a seasonal view of Neverland. Watch to the end. this is a call to ARMS to set the M.J.J. Innocent record straight for the NON-fans. Fans of MJJ and Fans of Justice... 5 years after the Jury said NOT GUILTY, and the malicious prosecutors of Santa Barbara were thoroughly defeated, by a mostly white Jury, 14-0 against a black man, M.J.J. most People do NOT know how bias and corrupt the Main Stream American Media, and the District Attorneys office was. Just after Christmas a New WEB site to coordinate the true to the record Documentary of the 2005 INQUISITION of Michael J. JACKSON, will appear and give information on how 1 - 2 million fans can choose or not choose to fund, at ten dollars, each that documentary. We hope to raise that money in a single week.


I AM ON WTH WHOLE MY HEART AND SOUL !  - ISNT WHY WE ALL HERE - TO FIGHT AGAINST ALL ODDS, THAT FORCE MICHAEL HIDE AND RUN?? :(:)

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 16, 2010, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: "skyways"
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
[youtube:1l0s09sp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Wj4d7mhz0[/youtube:1l0s09sp]

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This is more than a seasonal view of Neverland. Watch to the end. this is a call to ARMS to set the M.J.J. Innocent record straight for the NON-fans. Fans of MJJ and Fans of Justice... 5 years after the Jury said NOT GUILTY, and the malicious prosecutors of Santa Barbara were thoroughly defeated, by a mostly white Jury, 14-0 against a black man, M.J.J. most People do NOT know how bias and corrupt the Main Stream American Media, and the District Attorneys office was. Just after Christmas a New WEB site to coordinate the true to the record Documentary of the 2005 INQUISITION of Michael J. JACKSON, will appear and give information on how 1 - 2 million fans can choose or not choose to fund, at ten dollars, each that documentary. We hope to raise that money in a single week.


I AM ON WTH WHOLE MY HEART AND SOUL !  - ISNT WHY WE ALL HERE - TO FIGHT AGAINST ALL ODDS, THAT FORCE MICHAEL HIDE AND RUN?? :(:)

L.O.V.E.

YES - skyways. I began this journey on June 25, 2009 to speak up for and defend a person who didn't have a voice to be heard and it's been in my heart that the ultimate goal should be to correct the horrible wrong done. Michael always spoke up for those who had no voice and we should do the same for him.

Speaking for myself, it's been an uphill battle alone. But, together we can move mountains, part seas, and TAKE BACK the injustice in the name of justice. WE CAN DO THIS MJ's Army of L.O.V.E!!! I don't make a lot of money but I know I can give more than $10 to make up for those that I know can't give.

In my heart I believe it would be a profound statement to the world that we are not going to stand idle and watch an innocent man be destroyed by a few cowards. I am in for this TAKEOVER. I'm putting on my spiritual armour and I am ready for this battle!

MJ's only purpose in life was to make this world a better place, especially for the children. It would be an honor to give that back to him. I totally understand those of you who are apprehensive and it's okay. As BACK said....Keep Watchin' and maybe you'll feel more comfortable when progress is being made. Prayers are always accepted too - and those are free :) Blessings.

PS - Sneddon...we have our eye on you! Watch out... :x
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: robd on December 17, 2010, 02:52:48 PM
Sounds like an awesome idea ... but according to TMZ it has already been done (in part?).
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: RegalWarrior4MJ on January 01, 2011, 07:53:11 PM
According to the following YouTube video, "Inside The Neverland Ranch (The Today Show)," Michael Jackson's personal possessions that were originally in the house are to be brought back.  Does anyone know anymore about this?  I am not sure when that show was aired, but I would be very interested in learning more about it.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 01, 2011, 11:46:50 PM
Quote from: "RegalWarrior4MJ"
According to the following YouTube video, "Inside The Neverland Ranch (The Today Show)," Michael Jackson's personal possessions that were originally in the house are to be brought back.  Does anyone know anymore about this?  I am not sure when that show was aired, but I would be very interested in learning more about it.

I've been waiting for William Wegener's new web site that he talks about in his video to get up. It was supposed to be up 12/27. I did message him the question and he said they are working out bugs but it should be up shortly.

I'm not sure if Mr Wegener is aware of this other information or not but I'm interested to see if he addresses this. I think it's good news if MJ's original possessions are being brought back. Blessings :)

Dec 30, 2010
williamwagener

We are working all night to get the bugs out of it.
soon. very soon.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: mrmjj4ever777 on January 03, 2011, 09:19:56 AM
As soon as someone knows an account # for donation, let us know.
Thirty years ago, a one legged runner asked for only one dollar from every person.
Look how Terry changed the world, we can do this for Micheal Jackson.
We L.O.V.E. Micheal Jackson and we L.O.V.E. the people who go out of their way to defend him. You can learn a lot about a person just by bringing Micheal's name up, instantly you know if they are controlled by the media or they have a mind of their own.
God bless the investigator
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 09, 2011, 07:26:45 PM
Here is the most current information on clearing MJ's documentary to clear his name. Please listen and take note.

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwage ... nCFJtmuH2E (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener#p/u/1/unCFJtmuH2E)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 09, 2011, 07:28:51 PM
second video...

http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwage ... viw9B9YoGQ (http://www.youtube.com/user/williamwagener#p/u/0/Lviw9B9YoGQ)

people are needed to volunteer to translate into other languages. I know we can do this if we stand together as one. I'd love to see the power of L.O.V.E. work miracles for Michael. Wouldn't that be so awesome to not only have Michael come back but to give him this gift in return. Now that is power.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 10, 2011, 06:43:10 PM
[youtube:j94o2m1y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT_RL-wIaLk[/youtube:j94o2m1y]

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January 06, 2011

End of EXCLUSIVE Interview on LIVE TV in Santa Maria, Ca. Dec. 10, 2010, and "Hurricane" Mesereau states he did NOT respond to calls from Bill 0'Reilly, and Nancy [dis] Grace, which Wagener calls the FOX New Word Order Controlled Matrix media propaganda pushers. And a WEB location to go to get ready for
PLEDGE day, and MONEY BOMB day to fund the Documentary to prove to NON
MJJ fans how bias their Jackson media coverage was.

THIS IS IT. We start to push back against the walls of deception and lies.
a call for 1 million of the 10 million Jackson fans to donate $10, or what they
want to give, that won't cause them a financial pinch, so that FANS can say
THEY were the financial backers, and take credit for spreading the truth.
http://www.onsecondthought.tv/jackson.htm (http://www.onsecondthought.tv/jackson.htm)
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MJJ Innocent Forever Foundation
(Soon to be a nonprofit foundation)  

Enter your email address to receive
updates on our progress:

WELCOME to the MJJ Innocent Forever Foundation Website.

Our GOALS are these:

· Produce a documentary of the significant issues of the Michael J. Jackson trial and the surrounding media bias.  

o The documentary must be word-for-word accurate to the court transcript, and depict the trial and the secretive “media pool” antics that colored the national television coverage.

o At the end, the documentary must inspire non-MJJ fans to see the need for indictment of Tom Sneddon, Ron Zonen, Gordan Auchincloss, and Mag Nicola for fraud, conspiracy, and several counts of faking evidence … in a vain effort to get Michael J. Jackson convicted of something for which a jury of his peers proved him innocent. Clearly, the prosecutors committed the crimes under color-of-law, and the Santa Barbara County District attorney’s office has been engaged in a continuing Fraud to cover their departments own wrong doing since June 13, 2005.

o But first, the non-MJJ fans must see the truth, which the biased media hide so well. For example, a mostly white, elderly jury reached the correct verdict. But, immediately afterwards, the national media pundits were asking, “What was wrong with the jury?”

There was nothing wrong with the verdict; the Jackson jury got it right. As Thomas “Hurricane” Mesereau, lead defense attorney put it, in a December 2010 interview on You Tube, the evidence was a “travesty.”

o This production may cost up to $3 million to accurately produce and $7-$8 million to buy air time on national American network television; it might cost even more.  One to two minutes of advertising time will hopefully raise the funds to put the documentary on television in the United States and subsequently another nation and be self-sustaining, nation after nation.  

· To give Michael J. Jackson fans and fans of justice an opportunity to “do something” … to be apart of the REVELATION of truth … that Michael J. Jackson was completely innocent of any wrong doing to Gavin, Starr or Janet Arvizo, not to mention, Barns, Culkin and others. If 1- 2 million Jackson fans contribute $10 to $50 each for the funding of the documentary, they can honestly take credit for taking action to offset the yellow journalism of the highly biased national media spin meisters. One million MJJ fans, who care about justice for Michael, could easily fund this project without involving the Jackson family survivors.    

. To make the non-MJJ fans and the citizens of Santa Barbara, CA, who believe in fair play and equal application of the criminal code, so acutely aware of the “travesty” committed against Michael J. Jackson that those in Santa Barbara be willing to compose a de Jure GRAND JURY.   This would be a grand jury that is not controlled by the corrupt District Attorney’s office, which is still rife with Sneddon clones and lackies. These grand jurors will pull together to read the transcripts, consider the evidence already laid on the official record, and bring a True Bill of INDICTMENT against, Tom Sneddon, Ron Zonen, Gordan Auchincloss, Mag Nicola, and others who did their dirty work of creating false evidence to destroy Michael Jackson at any cost.  

· To air the television documentary nationwide in the United States, and then in France, England, India, and Japan, until every sensible person has had the chance to see that not only was MJJ completely innocent, but also that the national American media, prosecutors, and others were in a conspiracy to hang MJJ at any cost.  

· To create a fund, as a charitable foundation, from the documentary to aid children under stress and bring relief to those children.  

· If the fans of justice and fans of MJJ fund the documentary project more than expected, or the revenue from the advertisements of the documentary supply sufficient funds, we hope to buy back NEVERLAND, restore the carnival rides and the zoo, make the theater free to all and available to the children of the world.   This may or may not be possible.  Michael had a full outside stage and indoor production stage at NEVERLAND, and it could be used to help new artists and inspire people who had Michael’s attitude to “love you more” and promote artists who create songs of peace and not war mongering.  

Some will ask, “What if the cause generates more money than is required to create and air the documentary nationwide in United States?  The answer is that in such a event, we would move to broadcast the documentary simultaneously in as many nations as we could buy air time.  

At this point, we can do something to stop the Diane “Delusional” types filled with hate, or we can criticize at each other and do nothing.   I am not a crazed MJJ fan, although I was a Jackson Five fan. I look at all the innocent people harassed and jailed by a thoroughly corrupt District Attorney’s office, before and since the Jackson inquisition of 2000, and I conclude that we must produce the documentary. We should not let the corrupt and biased national American media get away with their part of hiding the truth.    

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. There will not be failure if one to two million Jackson fans and other fans of justice will UNITE to see this Documentary done accurately.  I am have said as early as April 2, 2005, that Michael Jackson would win, and he did.  

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION, IF WE WILL UNITE.  Now, it is up to the fans.

It is my opinion that such an act precludes the Statute of Limitations from running out.

After watching the 7th and final video of the interview with Tom; William has instructions to go to his website (see above link) and he has asked us to just enter our email address to keep informed of the next move. That is all he is asking for at the moment.

Peace
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 12, 2011, 09:31:18 AM
cause generates more money than is required to create and air the documentary nationwide in United States? The answer is that in such a event, we would move to broadcast the documentary simultaneously in as many nations as we could buy air time.

Is it just me? :?   Can you think of anything else which would require TV airtime for broadcast simultaneously in a many nations as possible?

 :shock:   Wishful thinking maybe, just made me wonder ;)
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 20, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
Here is the link to pledge your donation. It's not set up yet to actually give your money, it's just to see if there is enough support.

http://www.onsecondthought.tv/mjj.htm (http://www.onsecondthought.tv/mjj.htm)

I'm not sure about you but he will have my full support. Blessings.
Title: Re: NEVERLAND to be Restored :) W.Wagener video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 21, 2011, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Here is the link to pledge your donation. It's not set up yet to actually give your money, it's just to see if there is enough support.

http://www.onsecondthought.tv/mjj.htm (http://www.onsecondthought.tv/mjj.htm)

I'm not sure about you but he will have my full support. Blessings.

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