Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: TIAI November 21
Post by: lilwendy on November 21, 2010, 12:38:10 AM
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=15880#p268640

Quote from: "Andrea"
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Interesting. Bahrain has no extradition treaty with the U.S.

And one can fake death and don´t get punished for it ;)

Aaahhh this makes some good sense!   It's quite reasonable to think that one of the places MJ's been hiding out in is Bahrain.  And Jermaine wore a shirt on the Jackson family dynasty show that said very prominently "BAHRAIN".  Maybe that's where Michael flew to when he had gone to the airport....er, hospital.  And he spent so much time there in recent years - planning the last details perhaps and getting his situation set up.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 21, 2010, 12:51:59 AM

Piece by piece by piece by piece...?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: mjfansince4 on November 21, 2010, 01:14:41 AM
who wants to go to Bahrain?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 21, 2010, 01:18:57 AM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
who wants to go to Bahrain?

I do... http://www.bahrainweather.com/ (http://www.bahrainweather.com/)
:lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: mjfansince4 on November 21, 2010, 01:23:04 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
who wants to go to Bahrain?

I do... http://www.bahrainweather.com/ (http://www.bahrainweather.com/)
:lol:

 :o ...looking up flights now!!
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: jenwren20 on November 21, 2010, 01:56:07 AM
me too!! I'm so excited by this redirect  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: lilwendy on November 21, 2010, 02:02:50 AM
Canadians - Canada to Bahrain about $1000 who's in!  :lol:

Just kidding....  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: bec on November 21, 2010, 02:12:45 AM
We aren't trying to hunt him down, remember? So what if he may be in Bahrain, he might as well be on the moon. This isn't over yet.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: loyalfan on November 21, 2010, 03:03:10 AM
so how often have the children slipped over to bahrain and no one noticed ???????????????how long a journey is it ...????????????????????? i cant imagine not having a hug from daddy all this time ...???????????????   xxxxxxxx  love you michael xx
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: simalves on November 21, 2010, 03:12:14 AM
Bahrain is very small, and even though my sis lives there, she has not heard of Michael being there yet.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Puff on November 21, 2010, 03:53:11 AM
So, what this new redirect suggests? To hunt him down, or that it's illegal to hoax the death...?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: emeraldcity on November 21, 2010, 05:42:31 AM
Bahrain is an ideal place to get lost in a crowd when one considers the traditional clothing Bahraini men and women wear  ;) Yet another piece to the puzzle has been added.  Thank you TS
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: willddoMJ on November 21, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
http://middleeast.about.com/od/bahrain/ ... ahrain.htm (http://middleeast.about.com/od/bahrain/a/michael-jackson-bahrain.htm)
After he was acquitted of child molestation charges in 2005, Michael Jackson pulled a disappearing act. At the end of June 2005 he went to Bahrain, the tiny 33-island archipelago in the Persian Gulf known less for its isolation than for playing host to the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet: If Jackson wanted to get away from all things American, he chose poorly.

is a paragraph in there ;)

at end of June 2005??, MJ did same thing near end of 2009 June :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: trublu on November 21, 2010, 06:13:18 AM
Hmm this is odd. Either TS is telling us where MJ is or it's a distraction....

Hmmmm, thanks TS for frying my brain once again!  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Adi on November 21, 2010, 06:29:15 AM
If Michael is in Bahrain then he is safe from whatever the laws in the USA may be and that is a good thing if he is going "come back".

If his beautiful children are with him then that is even better.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: suspicious mind on November 21, 2010, 07:30:26 AM
perhaps only intent is to clarify how long the active planning has been going on.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Grace on November 21, 2010, 08:23:55 AM
I think I should consider contacting the people from Bahrain  I met - the loveliest and humblest persons on the globe despite their fathers were ... minister, ... minister and ... minister.
Very lovely and impressive.

But no - I won't contact them, for there are other countries as well that don't have treaties with the U.S. and because I am not here to find Michael.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: RK on November 21, 2010, 08:48:29 AM
My neice is working over there at the moment. Might be time auntie went to visit.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: jacilovesmichael on November 21, 2010, 08:58:08 AM
:D

This is great. I don't think it matters where he is, we aren't supposed to hunt him down. What's important is that he took the necessary precautions by choosing to go to Bahrain. He can't get in trouble for faking his death.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: paula-c on November 21, 2010, 09:27:36 AM
Thanks TS, I hope that Michael is fine, and if I'm really glad you are away from people like Tom Sneddon and others that did so much damage, I can not even imagine what it would be able to make this man to suspect that Michael is alive and did all this.
I'm not interested in a hunt "to go after Bahrain, would never do something like that, but I had the money for this trip is very expensive. :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: paula-c on November 21, 2010, 09:47:16 AM
Katherine Jackson: Dr. Murray Told Me MJ Was Dead
4 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson told Oprah Winfrey ... it was Dr. Conrad Murray himself who broke the news that Michael Jackson was dead.


Play video: http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true) ... d105f26218

On an episode of "Oprah" airing today, Katherine explained how everyone at the hospital was reluctant to tell her what happened to her son.

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She says Dr. Murray took so long in explaining things ... she had to cut him off, saying, "'Well, what happened? How is he? Did he make it?' And he said, 'No, he's gone.'"
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/08/michael-j ... ad-murray/ijcsly

We must remember this, many people felt bad in this part of the interview when Katherine said this and I cry a little, I think their pain is real, but it's true that Michael is far from it.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: RK on November 21, 2010, 09:48:05 AM
None of us would run off and try to flush him out. We are just letting off steam about this redirect. It's exciting!
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: MissG on November 21, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
Bahrain has been discussed in this forum a lot  ;) people even dreamt and got "visions" about it.....

Faking your death has no punishment. The only punishment applies if the faking was to get money out from it (cashing insurance i.e). In case of a "come back" one must pay the costs related (if in any case public related costs are to be paid....and let´s not forget that Janet Jackson paid for the memorial costs of police etc).
If the reason for faking death is purely fraud involving money or Id thef, then, one will be punished.

Here Bahrain constitution in pdf
http://confinder.richmond.edu/admin/docs/Bahrain.pdf (http://confinder.richmond.edu/admin/docs/Bahrain.pdf)


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Criminal Law in Bahrain

Anti-Money Laundering Guideline
Decree Law No. (4) of 2001 With Respect to the Prevention and Prohibition of the Laundering of Money
Decree Law No. (4) of 2001 With Respect to the Prevention and Prohibition of the Laundering of Money
Decree Law No. (4) of 2001 With Respect to the Prevention and Prohibition of the Laundering of Money


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Criminal Law in USA


2007/50 - Public Law 105-277, Division F- Not Legalizing Marijuana for Medicinal Use (1998)
2007/51 - Public Law 106-310, Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act of 2000
2007/52 - Public Law 108-358, Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004
2007/53 - Public Law 109-177, Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005
2007/54 - Public Law 109-304, An Act to complete the codification of title 46, United States Code, "Shipping", as positive law. Chapter 705. Maritime Drug Law Enforcement (2006)
Chemical Diversion and Trafficking Act of 1988 (Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1998, Title 6, Subtitle A
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure (2004)
Federal Rules of Evidence (2004)
Money Laundering Prosecution Improvement Act of 1988 (Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1998, Title 6, Subtitle E) 8
Public Law 103-200. Domestic Chemical Diversion Control Act Of 1993.
US Code TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

MJ has not been the 1st to "fake" it??

Back to the death certificate?

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/24 ... etail.html (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/24645946/detail.html)
Man Faked Death To Beat Court Case
Town Name, Cemetery Spelled Wrong On Death Certificate


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Police are searching for Michael Rosen, 42, who is wanted on forgery and counterfeiting charges.

Rosen claimed to be his brother when he went to Salem District Court with what he said was the death certificate, according to Salem police.

It said Rosen had died the week before. A clerk put the certificate in Rosen's file, and the pending case against him was dismissed.

Rosen, who was on probation for other offenses, was arrested months before because he was driving with no license.

When Rosen's probation officer learned of the case being dismissed, he said he was surprised because he had spoken with Rosen earlier and he seemed fine.

Click To Comment | Video

Another probation officer noticed the death certificate listed the cause of Rosen's death as "cardio-respiratory" arrest. The officer, whose mother is a nurse, knew the term normally used is "cardiac-respiratory."

The death certificate, which had no raised seal and was printed on the wrong kind of paper, was deemed to be a fake.

Saugus was misspelled on the certificate, and the cemetery was spelled "Temple Isreal" instead of Israel.

The cemetery also confirmed that no one named Michael Rosen was buried there.

Rosen's roommate Daniel Sheehan said Rosen took off in Sheehan's Jeep a few days ago. Rosen called Sheehan on Monday promising to return the vehicle.

As we say in my country:
"every law has a loophole"  :P
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: navibl on November 21, 2010, 09:57:30 AM
Where ever he is and whatever he is doing I just want him to feel safe and happy, and above all else...LOVED!!!  Sending him all I have, where ever he is!!!
 :cry:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Andrea on November 21, 2010, 10:00:59 AM
Maybe this re-direct isn't a "This is where Michael is" but a "Michael has spent time in Bahrain since June 25th"... That could be where he flew on June 25th because he certainly would have to get as far away as possible and he would have to go somewhere he felt completely safe and protected.  Michael has a lot of friends in high places who can assure his security.  I'm sure it was planned and executed like a military procedure.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: MissG on November 21, 2010, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
who wants to go to Bahrain?

I do... http://www.bahrainweather.com/ (http://www.bahrainweather.com/)
:lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  me tooooo

I almost ended up working there some years ago  :D I should have taken the job  :evil:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: liegi on November 21, 2010, 11:12:40 AM
What I think might happen is that we will be told that all we have seen has been concocted by the media. We will be shown how it was done. So Michael will finally prove, once and for all, who and what was behind his trial and other attacks.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Puff on November 21, 2010, 12:04:27 PM
Why should MJ have some problems with the law if the name on the DC and on the documents AFTER 25th June, 2009 is NOT the right one..? Remember Michael Joseph Jackson instead of Michael JOE Jackson..? So a fake of a fake is not a fraud.... TS even pointed out to that the middle name issue in Update 6 when he talked about the MJ/Elvis parallels and don't forget that nobody has collected the life insurance yet, so no fraud at all......
So, or the middle name on those documents is not wrong and MJ could have problems for faking documents, etc..etc... or the fake of fake is not a fraud thing is still valid because the middle name is Joe and this redirect is just to pleasure the hoax believers....
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: bec on November 21, 2010, 12:09:41 PM
I agree Puff, I don't believe anything illegal has been done in the course of this hoax. MJ has the best lawyers in the world. They would have been consulted and legality would be assured ahead of time.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: liegi on November 21, 2010, 12:10:36 PM
Exactly.  I can imagine the entire film unfolding.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: Sarahli on November 21, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
I don't know if Michael is in Bahrein right now as we speak but let's imagine that he is back for a second and try to imagine what the US judicial/legal system would do. Especially keeping in mind how Michael has been treated by his enemies. Do you really think that making a come back in the US is safe? Even if everything is legal on the paper? Will they just say "Ok that is fine your name is not on the death certificate you are free to do whatever you want" ... I doubt it. This is a honest question/reflection that I have but I can be wrong of course. But in my mind the dark side as I call it will try by all means possible to not let Michael accomplish his mission and they don't care about what is legal or illegal, we know that. So maybe that it is safer for Michael to be in a foreign country even if things have been done legally, especially after the BAM because the enemy will of course try to manipulate the truth.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: bec on November 21, 2010, 01:17:33 PM
That's true Sarahli. You can fabricate evidence, but you can't fabricate laws.
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 21, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
So that's why he spends so much time there. I remember he went in like 2005, maybe discussing some things? :?

Also, doesn't Jermaine have a friend who is affiliated with the ruler of Bahrain?  :shock:
I think I also remember the king of Bahrain referring to Michael as his "brother." So this would be the perfect place! Not only because of their laws, but he's tight with the king! :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 21, 2010, 01:50:19 PM
People in Bahrein are muslims?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: trublu on November 21, 2010, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
People in Bahrein are muslims?

The official religion of Bahrain is Islam, which the majority of the population practices. However, due to an influx of immigrants and guest workers from non-Muslim countries, such as India, Philippines and Sri Lanka,[83] the overall percentage of Muslims in the country has declined in recent years. According to the 2001 census, 81.2% of Bahrain's population was Muslim, 9% were Christian, and 9.8% practiced Hinduism and other religions.[1] There are no official figures for the proportion of Shia and Sunni among the Muslims of Bahrain. Unofficial sources, such as the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, estimate it to be approximately 33% Sunni and 66% Shia.[84] The vast majority of Muslims are shia, with other estimates at almost 80%.[85][86]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrein#Is ... se_control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrein#Islamic_conversion_and_Portuguese_control)
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: paula-c on November 21, 2010, 02:05:02 PM
Quote
Sarahli wrote:

I don't know if Michael is in Bahrein right now as we speak but let's imagine that he is back for a second and try to imagine what the US judicial/legal system would do. Especially keeping in mind how Michael has been treated by his enemies. Do you really think that making a come back in the US is safe? Even if everything is legal on the paper? Will they just say "Ok that is fine your name is not on the death certificate you are free to do whatever you want" ... I doubt it. This is a honest question/reflection that I have but I can be wrong of course. But in my mind the dark side as I call it will try by all means possible to not let Michael accomplish his mission and they don't care about what is legal or illegal, we know that. So maybe that it is safer for Michael to be in a foreign country even if things have been done legally, especially after the BAM because the enemy will of course try to manipulate the truth.


Sarahli is true, we must remember what happened during the trial all they did certain people, such as manufactured false evidence and slandered in the most ruthless Michael. Who can assure us that something like this could happen once more?
And again I repeat, if Michael is in Bahrain ... I'm glad :D
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: becca26 on November 21, 2010, 03:28:22 PM
Didn't TMZ just have a story how Bahrian didn't get the memo about MJ's "death" a connection there. I made a thread on the old MJHD about how I thought he was there and could be staying on one of the islands called "the world" Akon even said MJ could be on an island somewhere.  :D
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: suspicious mind on November 21, 2010, 05:44:36 PM
elvis : aloha from hawii


michael : BAM FROM BAHRAIN :o
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: TheRunningGirl on November 21, 2010, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
Didn't TMZ just have a story how Bahrian didn't get the memo about MJ's "death" a connection there. I made a thread on the old MJHD about how I thought he was there and could be staying on one of the islands called "the world" Akon even said MJ could be on an island somewhere.  :D

It is possible!
I am simply struggling to see why TS would want to draw the attention on MJ location ... but again, further news maybe coming out of Bahrain soon.

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: 2good2btrue on November 21, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
Michael Jackson's island escape
Michael Jackson has splashed out $1.5million on a new mansion on his own private island.The eccentric singer has paid the massive sum for a quarter-acre site on the Amwaj Islands, located off the coast of Bahrain where Jackson has been living since being cleared of child sex abuse.The island, which is part of three man-made islands built in the last five years, boasts lavish facilities including its own international airport, several top restaurants, a private hospital, golf courses, canals and an equestrian centre.There is also a private school, the International School of Choueifat, where it is believed Jackson will send his three children Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II.Jackson will reportedly move into the property in January and the island's other residents are excited about their new famous neighbour - despite his recent troubles.One local said: "It's still the music people know, that's how people here know Michael Jackson. It's really exciting"Last week, the 'Billie Jean' singer's father insisted his son would never live in America again after receiving a series of threats. Joseph revealed Michael only intended to return to the US for work and visits after the way he was treated during his child abuse trial.
He revealed: "He'll come back to America to visit, but not to stay, not to live. They didn't treat him right here I know if I was him, I wouldn't come back"

It is not yet known if Jackson now plans to sell his world famous Neverland ranch in America.

Michael Jackson to live forever as an island in Dubai  September 25 2009

See...MJ wouldn't stand out at all . :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: MJhasSpoken on November 21, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
Maybe MJ changed his name temporarily, before the death and then when his about to come back he will change it back, because if he changed his name before the death certificate came out then he wont have any legal issues right?
Title: Re: TIAI 11/21
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 22, 2010, 12:41:57 AM
I can't help thinking about those rumors that Michael coverted to Islam...
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