Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on December 14, 2009, 05:55:47 PM
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Ok, Like TMZ always does: What's the Big Friggin' Difference?!
They have uploaded new O2 pics on MJJpictures.com again (what is weird by itself, I mean, how long would it take to upload them since March 5??) BUT look at 2 new photo's I found (the light ones), compared to some old ones:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO2.jpg)
So what's the difference? I'll give you a hint: It's the head!
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Love the title.
Those are shopped pics. Tell me you shopped them to make a point.
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Love the title.
Those are shopped pics. Tell me you shopped them to make a point.
No, I didn't!! They are all from MJJpictures.com...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I don't know if I can go through this with the o2 guy again...the lite pics nose looks smaller doesnt it?
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The nose is much thinner in the light picture and the chin looks different. What is going on? Have they done this because so many have commented on how it wasn't Michael. Now the pale one looks more like Michael than the darker one. They can photoshop and alter photo's but not film so why does the light one look more like MJ?
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Anyone could photoshop them before posting on web site..... but I see some kind of neckless on the right side on a light picture, and its alll dark dark dark on a darker one, lol
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The nose is much thinner in the light picture and the chin looks different. What is going on? Have they done this because so many have commented on how it wasn't Michael. Now the pale one looks more like Michael than the darker one. They can photoshop and alter photo's but not film so why does the light one look more like MJ?
Thats a good point-that they could have done it because so many have said it was not him...or they could have done it because THEY don't think it looks like him. Remember what TIME magazine did with O.J. Simpsons picture.
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Even *I* can see the difference, and it sure is a big friggin' one. Just plain bizarre. But what's the point? That's what I'd like to know.
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It cant be two differant times/pictures becaue they r the exact same pose.
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Looks like they are finally uploading pictures from Mike, here are some more:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/004.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/015.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/045.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/350.jpg)
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but why did they do this it is confusing we all saw Michael on the television it was a big thing in the uk
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Thats a good point-that they could have done it because so many have said it was not him...or they could have done it because THEY don't think it looks like him.
But surely whoever is responsible for the Photoshopping would realize that the same people who doubted it was Michael before would notice such drastically different photos. People are picking his appearance apart left and right, especially in the hoax forums. What a dumb move to manipulate photos, and so much.
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sorry off topic but that first one is cute ;)
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I've always kinda thought that there were 2 MJ's there. I'm probably mad and just tired lol. It could just be photoshopped by someone else for all I know but it's weird - half the photos look like Michael, half look like an impersonator. They look too good for photoshopping but who knows? I don't know what to think anymore! I'm trying not to think about the O2 guy until I find out if sending an impersonator or doing it twice (or whatever happened) symbolises something or helps towards the hoax..
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With these photos, it looks to me that he is really MJ. Maybe because of the skin stone, it becomes lighter. I'm all confused now. I was convinced before that it wasn't MJ. Help!
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:shock: ON NOT THE 02 MICHAEL AGAIN :lol: :lol: WHATS GOING ON
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I always thought it was Michael at the 02 but now i am not sure back to the confused state again
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I've always kinda thought that there were 2 MJ's there. I'm probably mad and just tired lol. It could just be photoshopped by someone else for all I know but it's weird - half the photos look like Michael, half look like an impersonator. They look too good for photoshopping but who knows? I don't know what to think anymore! I'm trying not to think about the O2 guy until I find out if sending an impersonator or doing it twice (or whatever happened) symbolises something or helps towards the hoax..
I agree..I always seen 2 mikes not jus on the 02 section but on the whole website
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Looks like they lightened the pictures and obviously photoshopped the nose in the first picture..
Most of the pictures on the site are completely airbrushed and retouched. I don't see two different people there.. at all. I also see no reason to have more than one Michael, either. What purpose would it serve?
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Actually there's 3, these 2 and that random guy behind the curtain! If sum1 has the picture please post it
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Actually there's 3, these 2 and that random guy behind the curtain! If sum1 has the picture please post it
The one behind the curtain is a different one? That really looked like mike to me without doubt.... now I'm confused! I'll go search that pic!
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come on guys, the MJ behind the curtans was totally photoshoped lol
K.
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first of all how the heck is it humanly possible for 2 mikes to be there. remember the pic of the stairs at the bottom was mike and as he walked up he "changed" even michael jackson cannot change places that quick :lol:
but i think its like the TII booklet, its all airbrushed to make him look younger and fitter.
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I don't know what you guys all think but I am sure this is a big breakthrough. It is rather obvious they have done it to convince us that it was in fact Michael at 02 but the lighter photo is the one photoshopped and altered as the film of him is exactly the same MJ as the dark one-nose, chin etc, even the mouth is slightly different if you look closely. As I said before you can mess with photos but not film and the 02 film is not the "light" Michael. Lets face it that with all the rubbish things they have been coming up with regarding the hoax then it wouldn't surprise me if they expected us to see these new photo's and then come to a sudden decision that it was Michael after all. I must add that some involved in the hoax if truth be told have not done it as well as I think Michael trusted and expected them to-the trouble is there is not a thing we can do about all these inconsistancies and they know it. I was undecided before but I am more convinced that the 02 MJ was not in fact him more than am convinced it was him.
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there are two threads of this...just noticed.
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Great Find. Notice the top two, the mics r in diff places, one pic the silver emblem on his shirt is obscured by the mic, on the other it isn't, were the newer pics actually taken after everyone left the conference?
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Actually there's 3, these 2 and that random guy behind the curtain! If sum1 has the picture please post it
The one behind the curtain is a different one? That really looked like mike to me without doubt.... now I'm confused! I'll go search that pic!
thanks!
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Actually there's 3, these 2 and that random guy behind the curtain! If sum1 has the picture please post it
The one behind the curtain is a different one? That really looked like mike to me without doubt.... now I'm confused! I'll go search that pic!
never mind your right...its just these 2 :oops:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaKfI/S ... risons.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaKfI/SxLRqC68q2I/AAAAAAAAAUU/dAsY4fGLT9w/s1600/o2+comparisons.jpg)
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I don't know about the rest of them, but the lighter MJ in the picture where he is pushing his glasses up on his nose is definitely him. See his arthritic pinky finger. I doubt they could find an imposter with the same looking finger. IMO.
I still go back and forth on the O2 guy....just something about him didn't seem quite right. Just like the rest of all this stuff. :?
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So,please,put me up to speed :lol: :lol: ...so the guy from the 02 conference,is not the real Michael and the lighter photos who obviously looks like the real Michael are photo shopped... or there was a real O2 conference with a fake Michael(with an audience) and a fake O2 conference(just for the photos) with the real Michael(with no audience).... :shock: ...I hope you understand what I mean... :shock: :lol: :lol:
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Actually there's 3, these 2 and that random guy behind the curtain! If sum1 has the picture please post it
Not sure if it is these photographs you mean but here they are anyway.
Behind the Curtain.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/phpKYaft8PM.jpg)
Close Up
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/O2MJmask608.jpg)
Photo from TNZ's myspace page
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/phpAgvoqsPM.jpg)
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sorry off topic but that first one is cute ;)
hell yeahh..you are right..i thought the same thing :oops: :oops:
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You all do realize that MJJPictures.com is a website created by fans...a couple of years ago, right? Since I believe it was the one and only MJ at the O2, the photos are just more photos of him to me. :)
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You all do realize that MJJPictures.com is a website created by fans...a couple of years ago, right? Since I believe it was the one and only MJ at the O2, the photos are just more photos of him to me. :)
I agree that was Michael at the 02. But the difference between the dark photo and the lighter ones is very noticeable, and I don't think it can be attributed to lighting or some other incidental effect.
I would just like to know what the point was of altering whichever photos were altered. Makes no sense to me. Maybe someone was just bored, though.
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You all do realize that MJJPictures.com is a website created by fans...a couple of years ago, right? Since I believe it was the one and only MJ at the O2, the photos are just more photos of him to me. :)
I agree! It is all him....
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Maybe the hair on the forehead?
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I am sure the guy at O2 conference wasn't Michael. Just for comparison :
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy323/tiida11/588830111.jpg)
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am i the only person who thinks that the pictures are not photoshopped? the footage we seen was of the first guy but IMO there were photos taken of the 2nd person who was there also...like someone said about his pinky, who is gonna photoshop his pinky on?? i think thats the real point of this topic, thats there was 2 people or 2 different annoucements
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Hmm I don't know it anymore... In the beginning I thought it was NOT Michael, then I was convinced it WAS Michael, and now..... It's so confusing.
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Michael probably posed for these recently because he knew the other photos were suspect
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I've always believed it was MJ at the o2 and I still do but what I wonder is did MJ do this on purpose, did he behave strange on purpose did he realise the world would be halved over this????? I just have this niggling at me all the time, obviously people think this isn't MJ because he looks slightly different and behaves very different. Maybe i'm thinking too much but I have this nagging feeling MJ did this deliberately. He is a man of mystery!
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Michael probably posed for these recently because he knew the other photos were suspect
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i think this is the best answer!! haha :)
i've always thought Michael all the way at the o2.. just some serious photoshoppin going on.. my friend does it all the time to her pics to make her look better is certain lights!! it easy peasy..
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am i the only person who thinks that the pictures are not photoshopped? the footage we seen was of the first guy but IMO there were photos taken of the 2nd person who was there also...like someone said about his pinky, who is gonna photoshop his pinky on?? i think thats the real point of this topic, thats there was 2 people or 2 different annoucements
No Misha, I'm totally with you. 2 persons, 2 announcements.
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks it was and always has been him....why do you guys think they photoshopped the second picture? Because it's lighter? It's because of the camera flashes..his nose looks smaller because it's hardly visible..
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am i the only person who thinks that the pictures are not photoshopped? the footage we seen was of the first guy but IMO there were photos taken of the 2nd person who was there also...like someone said about his pinky, who is gonna photoshop his pinky on?? i think thats the real point of this topic, thats there was 2 people or 2 different annoucements
No Misha, I'm totally with you. 2 persons, 2 announcements.
2 announcements?? But for what reason?? We just saw ONE announcement in March....Maybe they really just photoshopped it...but I can't understand they photoshopped it that obvious...
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks it was and always has been him....why do you guys think they photoshopped the second picture? Because it's lighter? It's because of the camera flashes..his nose looks smaller because it's hardly visible..
you are not the only one hun! :) I also believe every Michael IS Michael ;)
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am i the only person who thinks that the pictures are not photoshopped? the footage we seen was of the first guy but IMO there were photos taken of the 2nd person who was there also...like someone said about his pinky, who is gonna photoshop his pinky on?? i think thats the real point of this topic, thats there was 2 people or 2 different annoucements
No Misha, I'm totally with you. 2 persons, 2 announcements.
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i do not know if O2 was staged/real/some illusion play/or what really happend there but since the begining O2 has been a big mystery/issue for me, and i think it was not MJ.
its not only the look or the behaviour but just the totality of it. then when i saw some parts of O2 in the movie, in particular the part with "acting" fans, i was more than sure that the purpose of O2 was not only to announce the tour. i am not even convinced that some of the "fan" footage that you can see on YT is real.
i also do believe that a lot of "official" pictures are photoshopped and maybe there is a mix of real and not real MJ amongst the photos.
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But what i don´t get is there are the same wrinkles in his clothes, same posture, just a littlelittle bit different angle. Maybe from another photographer. Different exposure und maybe that´s why he looks different, a bit lighter, less shadow.
I don´t know...it´s definitely he in the same posture. you can´t do the same picture with someone else again! So same Michael, same announcement! 8-)
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Gosh, this is so confusing. Do you think that MJ or someone from MJ's camp is having us re-examine these photos for a reason? Perhaps we are way off the mark and that is why the new photos have surfaced. I am still dumbfounded about that O2 announcement. I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing. I have a bad feeling about the whole thing and wonder if it even occurred or if it was just concocted to look like a press conference. It feels as if the mystery surrounding all of this is only growing. I hope someone relieves us with the truth soon!
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But what i don´t get is there are the same wrinkles in his clothes, same posture, just a littlelittle bit different angle. Maybe from another photographer. Different exposure und maybe that´s why he looks different, a bit lighter, less shadow.
I don´t know...it´s definitely he in the same posture. you can´t do the same picture with someone else again! So same Michael, same announcement! 8-)
That's exactly why,IMO, those are the same pics! Looks like if they have removed the shadows on his face, and added a lot of brightness (you can see whites more whiter, and white things that you can't see in the old ones, like the "Ray Ban" thing on his sun glasses), but just my opinion.
(Are there two threads about it? Sorry, I'm re-posting my opinion here :D )
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
My thoughts exactly! where are these people? its like the hospital scenario, loads of people there but noone seems to want to talk ! hmmm :roll:
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well from what i remember about the announcement of the confrence, i only heard that MJ was coming to London to make a confrence for 10 shows at the o2, on the news that morning, there was nothing before that, i enve remember in school frantically trying to find out if it was true and not someone taking the piss
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For those of you asking about hearing about the press conference from someone who was there......Read this thread on another MJ community. (I warn you, it is LONG) Almost half way through, there are posts that are describing the press conference, as it happened. There were links there to view the live feed. And there is one post that starts by a fan named Holly where she first posts a picture of the scene, and then she says "5 Minutes to go" as they wait on MJ to appear. He is late, which they are moaning about as well.
(http://l.yimg.com/i/i/any/mj1.jpg)
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/lofiver ... 39969.html (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/lofiversion/index.php/t39969.html)
It's kind of an interesting read, and a few photos as well.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgjI8Ar8xk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgjI8Ar8xk)
did you see the part of ghosts in the announcement of the concerts :?: :roll:
maybe he ask for the teleprompter because he must say they (mj and the "O2 dude") must tell the same... IDK, I HOPE THIS HELP! ;)
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
There at the same place with the fans from the staples center..lots of flashes and no fan pictures
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
it wasn't that public in the UK i think it was on the fan site.. which i must say i'm not on!! my friend got the announcement a couple of days before an the train prices shot up.. so like us if you live a good few hours away then the train is the only option!! cos trying to drive to London is scary!! and like dermot o'leary said.. he only got asked a few days before would he announce Michael Jackson!!
did anyone not from the UK hear it a good few months / weeks before?
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Well! here we go again! I thought the 02 Dude was squashed months ago. If I am not mistaken the forum was split on whether or not it was the real MJ or not. I for one said the 02 Dude was not the real MJ. The pictures that's shown convinces me even more. MJ hasn't been dark since the early 90's. As the years went on he lost more of his skin pigmentation. He looked more like the lighter MJ and his nose was thinner unlike the 02 Dude. Whoever MJ put in charge of pulling off this hoax didn't do a very good job if they had to go back and try to debunk what they put out before.It's almost as though they are back tracking and cleaning up their previous errors. At the end of the day knowing that MJ is alive is all that matters. Keep the Faith!
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
There at the same place with the fans from the staples center..lots of flashes and no fan pictures
Yes indeed, same mystery. Why was the city closed around the Staples centre that day? And I also haven't heard a single person that was there either. Yes, one on Dutch TV, but I thought his behavior was off, something fishy with that memorial too...
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That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
There at the same place with the fans from the staples center..lots of flashes and no fan pictures
Yes indeed, same mystery. Why was the city closed around the Staples centre that day? And I also haven't heard a single person that was there either. Yes, one on Dutch TV, but I thought his behavior was off, something fishy with that memorial too...
And let's not forget the police demanding no1 come up there or the very photoshoped pictures...my guess..neither event was live
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
My friend from work was there and she says MJ looked thin and ill and not at all like he normally looks
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And let's not forget the police demanding no1 come up there or the very photoshoped pictures...my guess..neither event was live
My thoughts exactly ;)
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It really looks like the first pic. on the 2nd group were tampered with....look at his skin tone, especially the cheek areas. You can see that it's been blended....it doesn't look natural. Nothing like what I saw before.
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For those of you asking about hearing about the press conference from someone who was there......Read this thread on another MJ community. (I warn you, it is LONG) Almost half way through, there are posts that are describing the press conference, as it happened. There were links there to view the live feed. And there is one post that starts by a fan named Holly where she first posts a picture of the scene, and then she says "5 Minutes to go" as they wait on MJ to appear. He is late, which they are moaning about as well.
(http://l.yimg.com/i/i/any/mj1.jpg)
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/lofiver ... 39969.html (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/lofiversion/index.php/t39969.html)
It's kind of an interesting read, and a few photos as well.
YEAH...So I guess the press conference was real.
And I think that the photo with the peace sign are two different photos taken by two different photographers with different kind of flash light, cause u can see that the position of the microphone is different in each of them.
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And let's not forget the police demanding no1 come up there or the very photoshoped pictures...my guess..neither event was live
My thoughts exactly ;)
It was live - I know two people who went as I mentioned before, one with whom I work - she was invited because she was there already after seeing an X-Factor show. The event was definitely live and Michael (or someone purporting to be him) was there - live. My friend said Michael looked totally strange and not like he normally looks - she has been with me to see him live a couple of times before. She also thinks he may still be alive.
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At one point there was an article with some comments by the announcer - that
Dermont guy...wasn't he quoted as saying something strange about it himself?
That article was removed from the internet. Did anyone else read it or save it?
Sorry, I read it along with hundreds of others and when I tried to refind it, it had
disappeared.
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At one point there was an article with some comments by the announcer - that
Dermont guy...wasn't he quoted as saying something strange about it himself?
That article was removed from the internet. Did anyone else read it or save it?
Sorry, I read it along with hundreds of others and when I tried to refind it, it had
disappeared.
Dermot said - 'Was that weird for you too'. I think someone on the old site emailed him to ask what he thought about the hoax but we never heard back.
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The lighter pic is definitely Michael IMO. The O2 guy... it is not, this is my belief. I just can't recognize Michael in the O2 guy, sorry. I remember seeing the vid in March and thinking: who is this guy? It's not my Michael, no way! I might be wrong, but just compare the pics: the lighter one is Michael: different nose, different chin and different head shape.
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And let's not forget the police demanding no1 come up there or the very photoshoped pictures...my guess..neither event was live
My thoughts exactly ;)
my thoughts too ;)
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I would like to hear from people in the audience-who were there in London--and what their take is on the whole thing.
That is exactly what I like to hear. Don't you think it is weird with that many members on all forums the last months, a lot of people from England/London, all fans yet nobody attended the press conference. Makes you wonder...
There was this guy who posted on youtube some clips he filmed while going to see Michael at the O2. I am trying to find him again. I guess he was a student in London, because he was speaking with a French accent and i think some of his vids were in French. I remember he was filming himself and was so happy; he was saying that his dream is coming true, that he's finally getting a chance to see MJ for the first time ever. He also filmed some fans inside the building, waiting for the conference to begin, exchanging photos or such.
Then, when the whole thing started, his camera got all jiggly, he was filming the stage, then himself, then the stage, them himself again. We couldn't make too much of it.
After Michael "died", he posted another vid expressing his grief, he was crying. And if I'm not wrong, he also posted one telling people to stop believing that MJ might of faked his death. I hope it's the same youtube user and I'm not cofusing anyone.
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At one point there was an article with some comments by the announcer - that
Dermont guy...wasn't he quoted as saying something strange about it himself?
That article was removed from the internet. Did anyone else read it or save it?
Sorry, I read it along with hundreds of others and when I tried to refind it, it had
disappeared.
I HAVE A VIDEO OF THIS GUY... IF YOU NEED IT
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If you read my earlier post, I said that my colleague attended the PC and it WAS live.
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And let's not forget the police demanding no1 come up there or the very photoshoped pictures...my guess..neither event was live
My thoughts exactly ;)
my thoughts too ;)
Mine too! :D
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Ok, Like TMZ always does: What's the Big Friggin' Difference?!
They have uploaded new O2 pics on MJJpictures.com again (what is weird by itself, I mean, how long would it take to upload them since March 5??) BUT look at 2 new photo's I found (the light ones), compared to some old ones:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO2.jpg)
So what's the difference? I'll give you a hint: It's the head!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This pictures aren't similar enough to make me think they are the same pictures, but photoshop'd. They are not the same pictures. I think they are taken at a different time.
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Ok, Like TMZ always does: What's the Big Friggin' Difference?!
They have uploaded new O2 pics on MJJpictures.com again (what is weird by itself, I mean, how long would it take to upload them since March 5??) BUT look at 2 new photo's I found (the light ones), compared to some old ones:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO2.jpg)
So what's the difference? I'll give you a hint: It's the head!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This pictures aren't similar enough to make me think they are the same pictures, but photoshop'd. They are not the same pictures. I think they are taken at a different time.
They are exactly the same pictures retouched ...
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This pictures aren't similar enough to make me think they are the same pictures, but photoshop'd. They are not the same pictures. I think they are taken at a different time.[/quote]
They are exactly the same pictures retouched ...[/quote]
No matter what they try to do to the photos, they can't easily alter the video. Do we agree that the mannerisms and speech of the O2 guy just doesn't appear to be MJ? Also, in the altered photos, if you look at other similar photos of MJ, the O2 guys mouth is is wider (MJ's mouth doesn't extend as far from left to right)
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This pictures aren't similar enough to make me think they are the same pictures, but photoshop'd. They are not the same pictures. I think they are taken at a different time.[/quote]
They are exactly the same pictures retouched ...[/quote]
No matter what they try to do to the photos, they can't easily alter the video. Do we agree that the mannerisms and speech of the O2 guy just doesn't appear to be MJ? Also, in the altered photos, if you look at other similar photos of MJ, the O2 guys mouth is is wider (MJ's mouth doesn't extend as far from left to right)[/quote]
Yep - agree.
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This pictures aren't similar enough to make me think they are the same pictures, but photoshop'd. They are not the same pictures. I think they are taken at a different time.
They are exactly the same pictures retouched ...[/quote]
No matter what they try to do to the photos, they can't easily alter the video. Do we agree that the mannerisms and speech of the O2 guy just doesn't appear to be MJ? Also, in the altered photos, if you look at other similar photos of MJ, the O2 guys mouth is is wider (MJ's mouth doesn't extend as far from left to right)[/quote]
Yep - agree.[/quote]
My opinion is that the O2 "guy" was Michael announcing he's going to die soon. Why? He always said that he's going to perform all his life until he dies and here he comes saying these are going to be his last show performances... My first reaction was that if I'm not going to see him now I'm never going to see him at all. So it was Michael, but very very excited cause he was announcing a really big thing. He gave me the creeps when I heard him say those things, I was thinking he wants to die, but why? Oh, and another thought that came in my mind when I saw him back in march was that all those doctor visits were for one purpose only, to redefine his looks. And he did. He looked great.
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its the same person...they just brighten it which eliminates all the shadows...just proves how just lighting can make a huge difference in a persons face...its still the same person
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And the theory of Brothers Twins", does that say you nothing??
Does no one want parler.WHY??
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His skin is lighter!! Why would they even do that? I mean, obviously it isn't Mike but seriously.
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I am doubtful about this O2 guy whether he is Micheal---I can see there is some difference in the shape or contour of this guy's skull with that of Micheal's.
Can any photoshop expert align two photos (one from O2 other from different) like a seen through semitranparent film after proper resizing? (like photo montage).
Is am the only person who have noticed it?
:oops:
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The second picture actually looks FAKE. Yea, I know it's photoshopped, but I mean look at the microphone. It looks like that was photoshopped in, like they took a picture of Mike and then put in a microphone. This is messssssed up.
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The second picture actually looks FAKE. Yea, I know it's photoshopped, but I mean look at the microphone. It looks like that was photoshopped in, like they took a picture of Mike and then put in a microphone. This is messssssed up.
You are right: the shadow of microphone on his face is missing.
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Pictures can be easily manipulated in photoshop. For me it's Michael's press conference. Yes, it was strange. I believe that at that very moment he was already experiencing minor problems that were becoming a snow ball (10 shows that turned into 50 shows) and things were getting worse with time.
So, I think he was nervous, under pressure which resulted in strange behavior. The hair was stranger and seems to be a wig. Michael wore glasses. He was so much time away from the fans and on this occasion he is so close, he's glasses. He hid his eyes. This also occurred in the movie he is most of the movie glasses. Was he hiding their eyes that they were expressing something bad (???) then? It is my opinion.
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Pictures can be easily manipulated in photoshop. For me it's Michael's press conference. Yes, it was strange. I believe that at that very moment he was already experiencing minor problems that were becoming a snow ball (10 shows that turned into 50 shows) and things were getting worse with time.
So, I think he was nervous, under pressure which resulted in strange behavior. The hair was stranger and seems to be a wig. Michael wore glasses. He was so much time away from the fans and on this occasion he is so close, he's glasses. He hid his eyes. This also occurred in the movie he is most of the movie glasses. Was he hiding their eyes that they were expressing something bad (???) then? It is my opinion.
Firstly I think that these photos are the same...the color is just raised so it looks little bit different!
and secondly I agree with u about MJs behaviour at the conference that he was nervous and under pressure, and about hiding his eyes... in the movie u can´t see in his eyes very often...
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i agree, i think the O2 guy is michael.....But michael was acting strange like his gangster walk heehee and his accent lol he had an accent!!! but i think it was still him for some reason. oh and his voice ontop of the accent...he soundly more manly and it wasn't has smooth lol...but something tells me its really michael at the o2 conference
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CAN I JUST SAY...THE JACKET HE WEARS IS SOOO UNTIDY....TOOO LONG IN THE SLEEVES.......MICHEAL WAS A SMART WELL TURNED OUT MAN...DOES ANYONE AGREE????
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Ok so the pics are lighter than the others,its still Michael,if you look at his pinky it looks swollen like he has arthritis,and the autopsy said he had arthritis in a couple of his fingers,look closely.
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i agree, i think the O2 guy is michael.....But michael was acting strange like his gangster walk heehee and his accent lol he had an accent!!! but i think it was still him for some reason. oh and his voice ontop of the accent...he soundly more manly and it wasn't has smooth lol...but something tells me its really michael at the o2 conference
Michael always walked like that,he had a swagger for you,he had a lot of attitude when he moved.I remember watchimg him walk inthe courtroom in all white with the jacket off.He actually strutted so hard i though he was going to bus a move ,lol.
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Yes I tink MJ had an accent - an American accent :mrgreen:
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Ok, Like TMZ always does: What's the Big Friggin' Difference?!
They have uploaded new O2 pics on MJJpictures.com again (what is weird by itself, I mean, how long would it take to upload them since March 5??) BUT look at 2 new photo's I found (the light ones), compared to some old ones:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/OO2.jpg)
So what's the difference? I'll give you a hint: It's the head!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think fisrt pic is photoshoped and second one is same but of difrent time and these have been retuched i have one question why the new pics dont have the mjj pic banner on them
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OMG it is him already!! it was his first public announcement in a while he was getting a feel of things and we were getting used to him in public again... as I have said before I think he was shocked of such a warm response
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Ha ha ha, TMZ have nothing left to lose...
They are coming up with this, today (you don't mean we read too much into O2, do you?):
What's the Big Frigin' Difference?!
Originally posted Apr 25th 2010 12:10 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
We got ourselves a good ol' fashion picture hunt. So strap on your spy shades and see if you can spot the differences in these tricky pics!
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/23/0423-sneaky-launch-credit.jpg)
**HINT -- There are THREE difference in the above picture!**
Tags: Photo Galleries
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/23/whats-the ... z0m6qP9dIz (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/23/whats-the-big-frigin-difference-photo-gallery/#ixzz0m6qP9dIz)
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/23/whats-the-big-frigin-difference-photo-gallery/
:lol:
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My opinion is that the O2 "guy" was Michael announcing he's going to die soon. Why? He always said that he's going to perform all his life until he dies and here he comes saying these are going to be his last show performances... My first reaction was that if I'm not going to see him now I'm never going to see him at all. So it was Michael, but very very excited cause he was announcing a really big thing. He gave me the creeps when I heard him say those things, I was thinking he wants to die, but why? Oh, and another thought that came in my mind when I saw him back in march was that all those doctor visits were for one purpose only, to redefine his looks. And he did. He looked great.
Wtf? Are you saying, someone died? :(
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They really want to educate our eyes... this is so funny... they set up 183 examples of photoshop, some are really convincing... good job, very entertaining indeed...
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/03/97600616_1_full.jpg)
Who else, TMZ, who else lost feet on the ground?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Interesting to compare with O2 photoshop exercises on mjjpictures.com:
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/02/96740176_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/02/96343115_1_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/02/92380834_1_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/12/90715443_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/12/93848032_1_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/12/86258607_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/12/90605308_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/10/90081816_1_full.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2009/10/butler_reveal_full.jpg)
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O2 dude is what got me involved in the hoax world.
I am not good at picking out differences in photos, but I saw that video after June 25 and my stomach did flips and my first reaction was "that's not Michael." I did believe MJ was dead on June 25 up until that point.
I googled "Michael Jackson body doubles" and ended up in HoaxLand :D . I still don't think that it's him...
Peace/Love/Hoax/Michael
LovetheGlove (KL in chat)
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Its i one hundred percent the REAL Michael who made that O2 conference.
I also feel he was saying goodbye.
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You all do realize that MJJPictures.com is a website created by fans...a couple of years ago, right? Since I believe it was the one and only MJ at the O2, the photos are just more photos of him to me. :)
I agree! It is all him....
Me too...I dont believe in the "02 due"
It has ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS been 100% Michael
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Its i one hundred percent the REAL Michael who made that O2 conference.
I also feel he was saying goodbye.
Yep iam with you. Always said it was Michael and i see now we have some others finally opening their eyes and seeing MICHAEL as well
I dont think he was saying goodbye - just farewell for now!!!!
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Its i one hundred percent the REAL Michael who made that O2 conference.
I also feel he was saying goodbye.
Yep iam with you. Always said it was Michael and i see now we have some others finally opening their eyes and seeing MICHAEL as well
I dont think he was saying goodbye - just farewell for now!!!!
Its Michael Jackson... the real deal. Its always been Michael Jackson for the last 50 years. lol.
I know him, i know how he looks and how he talks and how he walks. Thats Michael.
Ive also seen some amazing threads on here where people have compared photos and done facial recognition.. all the photos of Michael match the O2 dude. Its him. I wish people would see that too.
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Its i one hundred percent the REAL Michael who made that O2 conference.
I also feel he was saying goodbye.
Yep iam with you. Always said it was Michael and i see now we have some others finally opening their eyes and seeing MICHAEL as well
I dont think he was saying goodbye - just farewell for now!!!!
Its Michael Jackson... the real deal. Its always been Michael Jackson for the last 50 years. lol.
I know him, i know how he looks and how he talks and how he walks. Thats Michael.
Ive also seen some amazing threads on here where people have compared photos and done facial recognition.. all the photos of Michael match the O2 dude. Its him. I wish people would see that too.
We know in our hearts and i think all that matters. It is unfortunate there are not more of us who BELIEVE in him and trust our own judgement and dont think twice but that is fine. We know Michael's heart.
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That image number 350....
I downloaded it,opened with photoshop CS4>file>image/file info > RAW data:
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Please download the text file,as I cant copy paste it here,it gives error.
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That Getty images did the photography??