Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: Integrity on December 14, 2009, 11:51:51 AM
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I do not know if this has been posted and it probably has but I have to say this FOR ME this is THE BIGGEST CLUE EVER!!!!
THE CALL WAS MADE FROM THE BEVERLY HILLS HOTEL 9641 SUNSET BLVD WHICH WAS LITERALLY BLOCKS FROM CAROLWOOD THE HOME OF MICHAEL JACKSON.
SO THAT MEANS ALVAREZ MADE THE CALL FROM THIS HOTEL AND GAVE THE ADDRESS OF MICHAEL JACKSON'S HOME WHILE HE WAS NOT EVEN THERE AT ALL. THAT IS INCREDIBLE PEOPLE!!
I MEAN JUST INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!
When Alvarez asked the doctor what happened the voice was muffled but it did not sound like the voice of the Dr. Murray that we saw and heard on youtube. The voice also sounded like a females voice and whoever it was wanted him to hurray up and get off the phone!!!
The dispatcher is there to help them so why would he want to get off the phone when the Dr. did not even have him on the floor.
How could Alvarez say the Dr. is pumping and nothing is happening when he is not there at Michael Jackson's house.
(answer is all is scripted and everybody is playing there part)
He is following a script and he did what the director Michael Jackson told him to do!!!
Just type on google or youtube MICHAEL JACKSON 911 call made from Beverly Hills Hotel and tell me what you all think.
I remember hearing a little about it before and I believe it has been posted but I think we need to research more on this because to me THIS IS BIG GUYS!
THIS IS SO BIG I AM ABOUT TO BUST!
THIS IS UNREAL AND I HAVE TO SAY I FEEL WE ARE IN A MOVIE FOR REAL.
BUT I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS CLUE:)
Integrity
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Hi, Integrity,
I've checked the previous thread about it. Some said that the location shown on the pic of the computer screen doesn't mean the call was made from that location, but I still don't know why (due to the fact that English is not my first language, so I was not able to understand all the discussion) and I don't know if it was already debunked, because then the subject of the discussion changed. I think it's still worth a bit research on it.
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unfortunately, therefore we do not know it certainly
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Ok I am going on what I just learned from a neighbor who works for a 911 dispatch center here. She says that the GPS locators in cell phones are triggered to give the exact location a call is being made from when 911 is dialed in the event that the caller can not speak. When 911 is called from a cell phone the exact location is always entered to ensure that help can track the location successfully. It is also set up to be able to update the location every so often in the event that someone has dialed and can not request help due to being abducted, etc.
This is what I have found out. Any other info or help on this would be great as it may be different in other areas.
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I don't want to discourage anybody but I'd be the devil's advocate now .
What if Alvarez was at that hotel and received a phone call from dr.Murray who didn't know the address(as he affirmed) asking him to call 911 ?
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I don't want to discourage anybody but I'd be the devil's advocate now .
What if Alvarez was at that hotel and received a phone call from dr.Murray who didn't know the address(as he affirmed) asking him to call 911 ?
Alvarez was with Michael and Dr Murrary at the house. Why would Alvarez leave Michael when he's his bodygaurd? :? His job is to protect Michael, not go to a fancy hotel afew blocks away. I could be wrong ,but I doubt that he was at a hotel. :?
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It was just a suggestion...and Alvarez didn't stay 24/7 with Michael. When Michael was at home there were there the personal and the home security.
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I don't want to discourage anybody but I'd be the devil's advocate now .
What if Alvarez was at that hotel and received a phone call from dr.Murray who didn't know the address(as he affirmed) asking him to call 911 ?
It wouldn't make sense when we hear him directly checking with the doctor whether he's seen what happened...
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They were together because remember Kai Chase said Murray ran downstairs asking for Prince and SECURITY...and that is when SECURITY ran up stairs. Also, REMEMBER who else was at the Beverly Hills Hotel when they heard of MJ??? MR. FRANK DILEO.....he said he was "staying at the Bev. Hotel, got a call from a FAN saying MJ was being taken to the hospital" so he went up to his room at the hotel and changed out of his shorts.....and went to drive towards MJs house.
Interesting that the hotel has been spotted yet again!
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Why would Dr.Murray ask for Prince and then security?
The children should have been interviewed. It was reported that Michael was packing that morning to fly to Europe when he fell out on the floor.
One of his children thought he was playing a prank and started to play with him when he realized he was not moving.
If his children were there then for sure a nanny was with them so who was the nanny?
who took Michael Jackson to the bedroom?
Someone had to help Dr. Murray carry Michael Jackson to the bedroom and there was witnesses like the children, the nanny, and some others who saw what happened.
Who was the other person with the muffled voice on the phone with Alvarez?
This was a very well designed plot and I hope we can unravel it.
Integrity
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And I don't really believe Kai because she said different things about it.
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Ok I am going on what I just learned from a neighbor who works for a 911 dispatch center here. She says that the GPS locators in cell phones are triggered to give the exact location a call is being made from when 911 is dialed in the event that the caller can not speak. When 911 is called from a cell phone the exact location is always entered to ensure that help can track the location successfully. It is also set up to be able to update the location every so often in the event that someone has dialed and can not request help due to being abducted, etc.
This is what I have found out. Any other info or help on this would be great as it may be different in other areas.
It's a good information, thank you! I found this (here's the link to the full post: http://blog.cleveland.com/pdworld/2007/07/gps_joins_the_police_toolbox.html):
At the end of 2006, more than 233 million people subscribed to cellular service, according to CTIA-The Wireless Association, a trade group for wireless providers. Cell phone users make about 240,000 calls a day to 9-1-1 across the country.
In most areas, a local 9-1-1 center has equipment and database information that displays a cellular caller's phone number and location. Even if callers are unable to say where they are, dispatchers can then deploy searchers to within 100 feet of the location.
If callers use an older phone without a GPS chip, searchers can narrow the caller's location by using three towers to triangulate its last known spot by measuring the time it takes signals to reach the towers.
I hope it helps our 911 investigation. ;)
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Yes the address given on the screen is to the Beverly Hills Hotel.
However the latitude and longitude on the screen points exactly to 100 N Carolwood.
So... wtf? Why the difference?
See for yourself: http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php - find the picture of the screen from 911 with all the info and then type the lat/long into that. It goes right to 100 N Carolwood.
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its just another direct clue from the first day,that wasn't gone over.the difference is there on purpose.he has given you the clue,now its your choice what to do with it.i know I'm not going to challenge it,I'm taking it and I'm going to try and build a timeline for that day.we have been provided with most of the info already.if he was at the house,he would not have hung up and would have been able to give complete detail.if Murray had called him for him to call 911,he would have told 911 that,which shouldn't be the case b/c he should be with Michael Jackson at all times,thats his job.so,Dileo is at the hotel,and assumably Michael? and tippy.the family was already at UCLA.most of them.no one ever saw the children arrive at UCLA nor leave the house.leaving two possibilities.they were at the house the whole time being children with either their nanny,Kai,or a family member.or they were already at UCLA and had left b4 cameras started rolling.nobody knows for sure,that is just my 'brain talk' on the situation.GIVEN WHAT WAS REPORTED.If more comes to me,i'd probably edit this,seeing as though it may be NOT so clear.
"brain.talk"-jotting down the ideas as they are actually coming to you in your head.
Eternal Bliss
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Yes the address given on the screen is to the Beverly Hills Hotel.
However the latitude and longitude on the screen points exactly to 100 N Carolwood.
So... wtf? Why the difference?
See for yourself: http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php - find the picture of the screen from 911 with all the info and then type the lat/long into that. It goes right to 100 N Carolwood.
Hm, I tried this with my own adress. I put it there and it gave me the coordinates. Then I put the coordinates to see if it would give my address and I got an address that I know it's downtown because I lived really close to that street some years ago. But it is about 7km (or more) far from the address I put there.
And besides, the website gives you 3 different infos. And one of them is: 10073 Sunset Blvd W, Los Angeles, CA 90077
Hm..
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Why would Dr.Murray ask for Prince and then security?
The children should have been interviewed. It was reported that Michael was packing that morning to fly to Europe when he fell out on the floor.
One of his children thought he was playing a prank and started to play with him when he realized he was not moving.
If his children were there then for sure a nanny was with them so who was the nanny?
who took Michael Jackson to the bedroom?
Someone had to help Dr. Murray carry Michael Jackson to the bedroom and there was witnesses like the children, the nanny, and some others who saw what happened.
Who was the other person with the muffled voice on the phone with Alvarez?
This was a very well designed plot and I hope we can unravel it.
Integrity
The voice you hear behind Mr. Alvarez is Doctor Murray. Dr. Murray says, something like "just tell them to come" - I'd have to listen to it again- been a while. That's when Mr. Alvarez, all shook up, then says something like "please" again the the dispatcher.
To everyone else - the call was not made from the hotel. Mr. Alvarez and Doctor Murray were both there with Michael at the same time at Michael's home.
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This is about Intregrity's comment. You know that "story" about Michael playing with his kids, then falling down...etc. was what we first were told. Then we hear the doc found him unconscience in his bed. (first it was MIchael's bed, then the docs bed). Then we hear the doc first called Joe Jackson..and a few others, then had someone else call 911. We hear they put Michael in the bed, then he was found there. If there are sooooo many lies, why is there no arrest??? Because it is just plain and simple a "story". It is one of Michael's stories. A living video. Whether or not he will come back, who knows. He did make music ahead so he wouldn't have to come back. But, also he started other projects that may bring him back. In the meantime we can be loving to him and repay his love for us, but being happy in his safety.
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This is about Intregrity's comment. You know that "story" about Michael playing with his kids, then falling down...etc. was what we first were told. Then we hear the doc found him unconscience in his bed. (first it was MIchael's bed, then the docs bed). Then we hear the doc first called Joe Jackson..and a few others, then had someone else call 911. We hear they put Michael in the bed, then he was found there. If there are sooooo many lies, why is there no arrest??? Because it is just plain and simple a "story". It is one of Michael's stories. A living video. Whether or not he will come back, who knows. He did make music ahead so he wouldn't have to come back. But, also he started other projects that may bring him back. In the meantime we can be loving to him and repay his love for us, but being happy in his safety.
Yeah, there are so many stories about that day that we don't know which one is real (maybe none), even the one that says that Dr. Murray gave him the profolol and went to the bathroom and came back to find MJ almost dead. Maybe at the time of the call MJ was already hiding in the Beverly Hills Hotel and he was never taken to UCLA?
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This is about Intregrity's comment. You know that "story" about Michael playing with his kids, then falling down...etc. was what we first were told. Then we hear the doc found him unconscience in his bed. (first it was MIchael's bed, then the docs bed). Then we hear the doc first called Joe Jackson..and a few others, then had someone else call 911. We hear they put Michael in the bed, then he was found there. If there are sooooo many lies, why is there no arrest??? Because it is just plain and simple a "story". It is one of Michael's stories. A living video. Whether or not he will come back, who knows. He did make music ahead so he wouldn't have to come back. But, also he started other projects that may bring him back. In the meantime we can be loving to him and repay his love for us, but being happy in his safety.
You are right. There can't be so many versions to the same fact, as I've mentioned before.
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Can someone in this whole thing please come forth & speak the truth!
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Alvarez was at MJ's house Kai Chase said the security ran up the stairs.