Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael's Health & Alleged Drug/Painkiller Addiction => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on October 05, 2010, 08:09:01 PM

Title: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 05, 2010, 08:09:01 PM
Here is a short summary on Mike’s alleged meds, both the ones administered by Murray on June 25, and the meds found in his bedroom. Try to visualize Mike’s last months, while being this much of an addict to these medications. It must have been hard for him:

Not able to sleep, though sleepy all day

One day depressed, irritated and aggressive, laughing his balls off the next

Low libido one day, chasing after the ladies the other

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He must have been a mess, but read up yourself and do the math. Decide for yourself if you believe the drug stories or not.


[center:3cxi2w8g]Drugs found on Mike’s night table[/center:3cxi2w8g]


Diazepam (Valium) -> benzodiazepine

Diazepam, first marketed as Valium by Hoffmann-La Roche.

It is commonly used for treating anxiety, insomnia, seizures, muscle spasms, restless legs syndrome, alcohol withdrawal, benzodiazepine withdrawal, and Ménière’s disease. It may also be used before certain medical procedures (such as endoscopies) to reduce tension and anxiety, and in some surgical procedures to induce amnesia.

Dosing:

Depending upon severity of symptoms: 2-10 mg, 2-4 times daily.

Adverse reactions:

Incontinence, changes in libido, urinary retention.

Somnolence, Suppression of REM sleep, Impaired motor function(Impaired coordination Impaired balance, Dizziness and nausea), Depression, Impaired learning, Anterograde amnesia (especially pronounced in higher doses), Cognitive deficits, Reflex tachycardia.


Tamsulosin (Flomax)

Tamsulosin is primarily used for benign prostatic hyperplasia, but is sometimes used for the passage of kidney stones by the same mechanism of smooth muscle relaxation via alpha antagonism.

Dosing:

Flomax capsules 0.4 mg once daily is recommended as the dose for the treatment of the signs and symptoms of BPH. It should be administered approximately one-half hour following the same meal each day. For those patients who fail to respond to the 0.4 mg dose after two to four weeks of dosing, the dose of flomax capsules can be increased to 0.8 mg once daily.

Adverse effects:

Immunologic: It contains a sulfa moiety, thus causing typical reactions to sulfa drugs.

Ophthalmologic: Patients taking tamsulosin are prone to a complication known as floppy iris syndrome during cataract surgery. Adverse outcomes of the surgery are greatly reduced by the surgeon’s prior knowledge of the patient’s history with this drug, and thus having the option of alternative techniques.

Tamsulosin can cause males to experience retrograde ejaculation. Occasionally, tamsulosin can cause a drop in blood pressure, rarely resulting in dizziness or fainting. Other reported side effects include headache, dizziness, nasal congestion, and palpitations.


Lorazepam (Ativan) -> benzodiazepine

Lorazepam, initially marketed under the brand names Ativan and Temesta, is a benzodiazepine drug with short to medium duration of action. It has all five intrinsic benzodiazepine effects: anxiolytic, amnesic, sedative/hypnotic, anticonvulsant and muscle relaxant. It is a powerful anxiolytic, and, since its introduction in 1977, lorazepam’s principal use has been in treating the symptom of anxiety. Among benzodiazepines, lorazepam has a relatively high addictive potential.

Dosing:

The dose of lorazepam is tailored to the patient’s needs. The usual dose for treating anxiety is 2-3 mg/day given in two or three divided doses. Insomnia is treated with 2-4 mg given at bedtime.

Adverse effects:

Any of the five intrinsic benzodiazepine effects possessed by lorazepam (sedative/hypnotic, muscle relaxant, anxiolytic, amnesic and anticonvulsant) may be considered as “adverse effects,” or “side-effects,” if unwanted.

Paradoxical effects, Suicidality, Amnesic effects.


Temazepam (Restoril) -> benzodiazepine

Temazepam (marketed under brand names Normison, Temtabs, Euhypnos, Restoril, Remestan, Tenox and Norkotral) is an intermediate-acting 3-hydroxy benzodiazepine. It is generally prescribed for the short-term treatment of sleeplessness in patients who have difficulty maintaining sleep. Temazepam is not effective for induction of sleep. In addition, temazepam has anxiolytic (anti-anxiety), anticonvulsant, and skeletal muscle relaxant properties.

Dosing:

The recommended dose of temazepam when treating insomnia is typically 15 mg, taken at bedtime just before trying to go to sleep. For elderly people or people with other medical problems, the recommended dose is lower — 7.5 mg taken at bedtime.

Adverse effects:

Side effects typical of hypnotic benzodiazepines are related to CNS depression, and include somnolence, dizziness, fatigue, ataxia, headache, lethargy, impairment of memory and learning, increased reaction time and impairment of motor functions (including coordination problems), slurred speech, decreased physical performance, numbed emotions, reduced alertness, muscle weakness, blurred vision (in higher doses), and inattention.


Clonazepam (Klonopin) -> benzodiazepine

Clonazepam is a benzodiazepine derivative with highly potent anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant, and anxiolytic properties. It is marketed by Roche under the trade-names Klonopin in the United States, and Ravotril in Chile. Other names like Rivotril or Rivatril are known throughout the large majority of the rest of the world. Clonazepam is a chlorinated derivative of nitrazepam and a nitrobenzodiazepine like nitrazepam.

Dosing:

Clonazepam must be introduced gradually, and a low starting dose is advisable, such as 0.5 to 1.5 mg/day, which may be taken all at once or divided into two or three doses. The dosage can be increased by 0.5 to 1 mg every 3 to 7 days. The maximum daily dose recommended is 10 mg. In a survey of epilepsy specialists, most recommended no more than 4 mg per day and usually prescribed no more than 2 mg per day.

Adverse effects:

Common

* Drowsiness

* Impairment of cognition, judgment, or memory

* Irritability and aggression

* Psychomotor agitation

* Lack of motivation

* Loss of libido

* Impaired motor function

* Impaired coordination

* Impaired balance

* Dizziness

* Cognitive Impairments

* Increased Sleepwalking (If used in treatment of sleepwalking)

* Auditory Hallucinations

* Short-term memory loss

* Anterograde amnesia (common with higher doses)

* Some users report hangover-like symptoms of being drowsy, having a headache, being sluggish, and being irritable after waking up if the medication is taken before sleep. This is likely the result of the medication’s long half-life, which continues to affect the user after waking up, as well as its disruption of the REM cycle.

Occasional

* Serious dysphoria

* Thrombocytopenia

* Serious psychological and psychiatric side-effects

* Induction of seizures or increased frequency of seizures

* Personality changes

* Behavioural disturbances

Rare

* Psychosis

* Incontinence

* Liver damage

* Paradoxical behavioural disinhibition (most frequently in children, the elderly, and in persons with developmental disabilities)

* Rage

* Excitement

* Impulsivity

Long term effects

The long term effects of clonazepam can include; depression, disinhibition and sexual dysfunction.


Trazodone (Desyrl)

Trazodone (Desyrel, Beneficat, Deprax, Desirel, Molipaxin, Thombran, Trazorel, Trialodine, Trittico) is a psychoactive drug of the piperazine and triazolopyridine chemical classes that has anti depressant anxiolytic, and hypnotic properties. It has been advertised that its therapeutic benefits become noticeable within the first week of administration. Trazodone has considerably less prominent anticholinergic (dry mouth, constipation, tachycardia) and sympatholytic (hypotension, sexual dysfunction consisting of erectile dysfunction and anorgasmia) side effects in comparison to most of the tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) and tetracyclic antidepressants (TeCAs).

Dosing:

Treatment should be started with low initial doses of 25 to 50 mg daily in divided doses or in an evening single dose. The dose may be increased slowly to a maximum of 300 mg daily in ambulatory patients and to 600 mg daily in hospitalized patients. Geriatric and emaciated patients should begin with 25 mg daily; this dose may be slowly increased to 300 mg. The duration of treatment should be at least one month. A 50 mg dose is recommended when using Trazodone as a sleep aid.

Adverse effects:

The most common adverse reactions encountered are drowsiness, nausea/vomiting, headache and dry mouth. Adverse reactions reported include the following:

Behavioral

Drowsiness, fatigue, lethargy, psychomotor retardation, lightheadedness, dizziness, difficulty in concentration, confusion, uncontrollable laughter, sex drive increase.

Neurological

Tremor, headache, ataxia, migraine, akathisia, muscle stiffness, slurred speech, slowed speech, vertigo, tinnitus, tingling of extremities, paresthesia, weakness, complex partial seizures, and rarely, impaired speech, muscle twitching, numbness, dystonia, euphoria, and involuntary movements.

Autonomic

Dry or numb mouth, blurred vision, priapism, diplopia, miosis, nasal congestion, constipation, sweating, urinary retention, increased urinary frequency and incontinence.

Cardiovascular

Hypotension, tachycardia, palpitations, shortness of breath, apnea, syncope, arrhythmias, prolonged P-R interval, atrial fibrillation, bradycardia, ventricular ectopic activity (including ventricular tachycardia), myocardial infarction, and cardiac arrest.


Tizanidine (Zanaflex)

Tizanidine (brandnames Zanaflex, Sirdalud) is a drug that is used as a muscle relaxant. It is a centrally acting a-2 adrenergic agonist. It is used to treat the spasms, cramping, and tightness of muscles caused by medical problems such as multiple sclerosis, spastic diplegia, back pain, or certain other injuries to the spine or central nervous system. It is also prescribed off-label for migraine headaches, as a sleep aid, and as an anticonvulsant. It is also prescribed for some symptoms of fibromyalgia.

Dosing:

To minimize side effects, begin with a dosage of 4 milligrams, then increase the dose gradually. Doses of 8 milligrams provide relief for most people. No more than 3 doses should be taken each 24 hours. The maximum dose per day is 36 milligrams.

Adverse effects:

Tizanidine use occasionally causes drug induced liver injury. In controlled clinical studies, approximately 5% of patients treated with Zanaflex had elevations of liver function tests (ALT, AST) to greater than 3 times the upper limit of normal (or 2 times if baseline levels were elevated). Do not use tizanidine at a time when muscle tone is needed to assure safe balance and movement for certain activities.


[center:3cxi2w8g]Administered on June 25th[/center:3cxi2w8g]


01:30 am - 10mg tablet of Valium.

Diazepam, first marketed as Valium by Hoffmann-La Roche.

It is commonly used for treating anxiety, insomnia, seizures, muscle spasms, restless legs syndrome, alcohol withdrawal, benzodiazepine withdrawal, and Ménière’s disease. It may also be used before certain medical procedures (such as endoscopies) to reduce tension and anxiety, and in some surgical procedures to induce amnesia.

Dosing:

Depending upon severity of symptoms: 2-10 mg, 2-4 times daily.

Adverse reactions:

Incontinence, changes in libido, urinary retention.

Somnolence, Suppression of REM sleep, Impaired motor function(Impaired coordination Impaired balance, Dizziness and nausea), Depression, Impaired learning, Anterograde amnesia (especially pronounced in higher doses), Cognitive deficits, Reflex tachycardia.


02:00 am - 2mg Lorazepam (Ativan) after dilution, into IV.

Lorazepam, initially marketed under the brand names Ativan and Temesta, is a benzodiazepine drug with short to medium duration of action. It has all five intrinsic benzodiazepine effects: anxiolytic, amnesic, sedative/hypnotic, anticonvulsant and muscle relaxant. It is a powerful anxiolytic, and, since its introduction in 1977, lorazepam’s principal use has been in treating the symptom of anxiety. Among benzodiazepines, lorazepam has a relatively high addictive potential.

Dosing:

The dose of lorazepam is tailored to the patient’s needs. The usual dose for treating anxiety is 2-3 mg/day given in two or three divided doses. Insomnia is treated with 2-4 mg given at bedtime.

Adverse effects:

Any of the five intrinsic benzodiazepine effects possessed by lorazepam (sedative/hypnotic, muscle relaxant, anxiolytic, amnesic and anticonvulsant) may be considered as “adverse effects,” or “side-effects,” if unwanted.

Paradoxical effects, Suicidality, Amnesic effects.


03:00 am - 2 mg Midazolam (Veresed) after dilution, into IV.

Midazolam, marketed in English-speaking countries under brand names Dormicum, Hypnovel, Midacum and Versed) is an ultra short-acting benzodiazepine derivative. It has potent anxiolytic, amnestic, hypnotic, anticonvulsant, skeletal muscle relaxant, and sedative properties. Midazolam is water-soluble and fat-soluble in physiologic pH. Freely soluble in alcohol and acetone. It is considered an ultra short-acting benzodiazepine, with an elimination half-life of about 2 hours. It is used in some countries for the short term treatment of insomnia and in many countries as a premedication before surgery. It is therefore a very useful drug to use for short minor procedures such as dental extraction.

Dosing:

Initial dose: 1-2 mg

Additional doses: 1 mg administered at 2-minute intervals

Onset of action: 1-2 minutes

Peak effect: 3-4 minutes

Duration of effect: 15-80 minutes

Adverse effects:

Residual ‘hangover’ effects after nighttime administration of midazolam such as sleepiness, impaired psychomotor and cognitive functions may persist into the next day which may impair the ability of users to drive safely and increase risks of falls and hip fractures. Confusion and amnesia are reported with midazolam. Midazolam has been known to cause a paradoxical reaction in susceptible individuals, a well-documented complication with benzodiazapines. When this occurs, the individual may experience anxiety, involuntary movements, aggressive or violent behavior, uncontrollable crying or verbalization, and other similar effects. This seems to be related to the altered state of consciousness or disinhibition produced by the drug. Some patients may respond to as little as 1 mg. No more than 1.5 mg should be given over a period of no less than 2 minutes.


05:00 am - 2 mg Lorazepam (Ativan), after dilution, into IV. See above.


07:30 am - 2mg of Midazolam (Versed), after dilution, into IV. See above.


10:40 am - 25 mg of Propofol (Diprivan), diluted with Lidocaine (Xylocaine), via IV drip.

Propofol (INN, marketed as Diprivan by AstraZeneca) is a short-acting, intravenously administered hypnotic agent. Its uses include the induction and maintenance of general anesthesia, sedation for mechanically ventilated adults, and procedural sedation. Propofol is also commonly used in veterinary medicine. Propofol is approved for use in more than 50 countries, and generic versions are available.

Chemically, propofol is unrelated to barbiturates, and has largely replaced sodium thiopental (Pentothal) for induction of anesthesia as recovery from propofol is more rapid and “clear” as compared to thiopental. Propofol is not considered an analgesic, so opioids such as fentanyl may be combined with propofol to alleviate pain.[1] Due to its amnestic effects and appearance as a white liquid, propofol has been humorously dubbed “milk of amnesia” by medical professionals.

Dosing:

Anesthesia induction, [healthy adults

Dose: 2-2.5 mg/kg IV given as 40 mg q10sec until induction onset

Anesthesia maintenance, [healthy adults

Dose: 0.1-0.2 mg/kg/min IV; Alt: 25-50 mg IV prn

Monitored anesthesia care induction

[100-150 mcg/kg/min IV x3-5min]

Alt: 50 mcg/kg IV x1 over 3-5min, then maint. Infusion

Monitored anesthesia care maintenance

[25-75 mcg/kg/min IV]

Alt: 10-20 mg IV prn; Info: avoid bolus doses and reduce dose 20% in elderly, debilitated, neurosurgical, or ASA P3-P4 pts

Adverse effects:

Aside from low blood pressure (mainly through vasodilation) and transient apnea following induction doses, one of propofol’s most frequent side effects is pain on injection, especially in smaller veins. This pain can be mitigated by pretreatment with lidocaine. Patients show great variability in their response to propofol, at times showing profound sedation with small doses. A more serious but rare side effect is dystonia. Mild myoclonic movements are common, as with other intravenous hypnotic agents. Propofol appears to be safe for use in porphyria, and has not been known to trigger malignant hyperpyrexia.

It has been reported that the euphoria caused by propofol is unlike other sedation agents, “I even remember my first experience using propofol: a young woman who was emerging from a MAC anesthesia looked at me as though I were a masked Brad Pitt and told me that she felt simply wonderful” —C.F. Ward, M.D.

Propofol has reportedly induced priapism in some individuals.


[center:3cxi2w8g]After Mike stopped breathing[/center:3cxi2w8g]


0.2 mg of Flumanezil (Anexate) was administered once.


Flumazenil (Anexate), in affidavid listed as Flumanezil

Flumazenil, a specific benzodiazepine-receptor antagonist, is indicated for the complete or partial reversal of the sedative effects of benzodiazepines and may be used in situations when an overdose with a benzodiazepine is known or suspected. Prior to the administration of flumazenil, necessary measures should be instituted to secure airway, ventilation and intravenous access. Flumazenil is intended as an adjunt to, not as a substitute for, proper management of benzodiazepine overdose. Patients treated with flumazenil should be monitored to resedation, respiratory depression and other residual benzodiazepine effects for an appropriate period after treatment. The prescriber should be aware of a risk of seizure in association with flumazenil treatment, particularly in long-term benzodiazepine users and in cyclic antidepressant overdose.

Dosing:

The recommended dose for adults is 0,2ml every 1–2 minutes until the effect is seen, to a maximum of 3 mg per hour. The onset of action is rapid and usually effects are seen within one to two minutes. The peak effect is seen at six to ten minutes.


[center:3cxi2w8g]Drugs found via autopsy[/center:3cxi2w8g]

Propofol (see above)

Lorazepam (see above)

Midazolam (see above)

Diazepam (see above)


Lidocaine

Lidocaine (INN) or lignocaine (former BAN) is a common local anesthetic and antiarrhythmic drug. Lidocaine is used topically to relieve itching, burning and pain from skin inflammations, injected as a dental anesthetic, and in minor surgery.

Dosing:

Unknown, in this case Propofol was diluted with Lidocaine.

Adverse effects:

Systemic exposure to excessive quantities of lidocaine mainly result in central nervous system (CNS) and cardiovascular effects – CNS effects usually occur at lower blood plasma concentrations and additional cardiovascular effects present at higher concentrations, though cardiovascular collapse may also occur with low concentrations. CNS effects may include CNS excitation (nervousness, tingling around the mouth (also known as circumoral paraesthesia), tinnitus, tremor, dizziness, blurred vision, seizures) followed by depression, and with increasingly heavier exposure: drowsiness, loss of consciousness, respiratory depression and apnoea). Cardiovascular effects include hypotension, bradycardia, arrhythmias, and/or cardiac arrest – some of which may be due to hypoxemia secondary to respiratory depression.

Ephedrine

Ephedrine is a central nervous system stimulant used to treat breathing problems (as a bronchodilator), nasal congestion (as a decongestant), low blood pressure problems (orthostatic hypotension), or myasthenia gravis. Ephedrine stimulates fatburning and increases alertness and activity of the body. Ephedrine increases the energy and concentration for 6 to 10 hours. The energy released will inhibited the appetite. Ephedrine can also be used for asthma, hay fever and colds.

Dosing:

For prescription ephedrine, do not exceed 150 mg per day in adults.

Adverse effects:

Adverse drug reactions (ADRs) are more common with systemic administration (e.g. injection or oral administration) compared to topical administration (e.g. nasal instillations). ADRs associated with ephedrine therapy include:

Cardiovascular: tachycardia, cardiac arrhythmias, angina pectoris, vasoconstriction with hypertension

Dermatological: flushing, sweating, acne vulgaris

Gastrointestinal: anorexia, nausea

Genitourinary: diuresis (increased urination) due to increased blood flow (difficulty urinating is not uncommon, as alpha-agonists such as ephedrine constrict the internal urethral sphincter, mimicking the effects of sympathetic nervous system stimulation)

Nervous system: restlessness, confusion, insomnia, mild euphoria, mania/hallucinations (rare except in previously existing psychiatric conditions), delusions, formication (may be possible, but lacks documented evidence) paranoia, hostility, panic, agitation

Respiratory: dyspnea, pulmonary edema

Miscellaneous: dizziness, headache, tremor, hyperglycemic reactions

The approved maximum daily dosage of ephedrine for use as a bronchodilator is 150 mg, as specified on the packaging of the bronchodilator and expectorant combination, Bronkaid, made by Bayer pharmaceuticals.

Overdose can lead to death, although the approved dose is not likely to cause severe reactions when used as directed.


Of course he is not dead and there hasn’t been performed an autopsy on his body, but just imagine you would believe the media and believe the autopsy report. His organs were fine, he was healthy… Now if you are such a big addict to all this stuff, how the hell can your organs be fine?? His liver had to be damaged at the least and we can hardly believe his heart would still be strong.

Also take a look at what kind of medications he supposedly took. They are all sedatives, so WHY the media is feeding us that he was a painkiller addict?[/color]
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: MissG on October 05, 2010, 08:25:37 PM
My opinion is not going to be scientific.

I believe MJ was reccomended and given those prescription drugs from doctors to treat his anxiety, depression or whatever symptoms he presented when he got them prescribed, but, he never took them. He was able to heal himself on those matters with meditation, visualization and....may be a little bit of hash ;)

The "bed scenario" referred as Crime Scene have been a parody of the secondary effects that the medications @Souza has described can lead to.

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Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Andrea on October 05, 2010, 08:26:51 PM
Holy, his organs would've been swimming in all these meds if we are to actually believe he was on all these drugs.

If a huge part of the hoax is to expose certain evil organizations in the world, perhaps this part of the hoax was for the pharmaceutical industries.  Some of the side effects are worse than the actual condition!  These medicines are poisoning the body and we should know this instinctively because our bodies tell us this but the docs tell us something else...because the pharmaceutical companies sign their pay cheques.  There are so many conditions that people try to medicate into oblivion when it's simply not necessary!  There are many natural remedies out there but "they" don't want anyone to know this.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Andrea on October 05, 2010, 08:35:12 PM
This is a long read but it's worth it.  

http://www.educate-yourself.org/fc/ (http://www.educate-yourself.org/fc/)

The article: FORBIDDEN CURES

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Introduction & Overview

There are a number of alternative healing therapies that work so well and cost so little (compared to conventional treatment), that Organized Medicine, the Food & Drug Administration, and their overlords in the Pharmaceutical Industry (The Big Three) would rather the public not know about them. The reason is obvious: Alternative, non-toxic therapies represent a potential loss of billions of dollars to allopathic (drug) medicine and drug companies.

The Big Three have collectively engaged in a medical conspiracy for the better part of 70 years to influence legislative bodies on both the state and federal level to create regulations that promote the use of drug medicine while simultaneously creating restrictive, controlling mechanisms (licencing, government approval, etc) designed to limit and stifle the availability of non-drug, alternative modalities. The conspiracy to limit and eliminate competition from non-drug therapies began with the Flexner Report of 1910.

Abraham Flexner was engaged by John D. Rockefeller to run around the country and 'evaluate' the effectiveness of therapies taught in medical schools and other institutions of the healing arts. Rockefeller wanted to dominate control over petrolem, petrochemicals, and pharmaceuticals (which are derived from 'coal tars' or crude oil). He arranged for his company, Standard Oil of New Jersey to obtain a controlling interest in a huge German drug cartel called I. G. Farben. He pulled in his stronger competitors like Andrew Carnegie and JP Morgan as partners, while making other, less powerful players, stockholders in Standard Oil. Those who would not come into the fold "were crushed" according to a Rockefeller biographer (W. Hoffman, David: Report on a Rockefeller {New York:Lyle Stuart, Inc., 1971}page 24.)

The report Flexner submitted to The Carnegie Foundation was titled "Medical Education in the United States and Canada". Page 22 of the report said: "the privileges of the medical school can no longer be open to casual strollers from the highway. It is necessary to install a doorkeeper who will, by critical scrutiny, ascertain the fitness of the applicant, a necessity suggested, in the first place, but consideration for the candidate, whose time and talents will serve him better in some other vocation, if he be unfit for this, and in the second, by consideration for a public entitled to protection from those whom the very boldness of modern medical strategy equips with instruments that, tremendously effective for good when rightly used, are all the more terrible for harm if ignorantly or incompetently employed".

All too often, politicians are prepared to enact laws that rob citizens of yet another constitutional freedom under the banner of "public protection". Needless to say, congress swallowed the recommendations of this report hook, line, and sinker. It was decided that the American Medical Association (AMA), would be the "doorkeeper". The AMA was now empowered to certify or de-certify any medical school in the country on the grounds of whether that school met the AMA's standards of "approved" medicine.

The AMA came into existence in 1847. It is a private organization of allopathic physicians which serves the interests of its members, especially when it comes to influencing favorable legislation. It functions in every sense of the word as a union, although its members wear white collars instead of blue. Giving the AMA the power over the certification of medical schools is the equivalent of giving the Teamsters Union the exclusive right to decide on the laws of interstate commerce and transportation. Is it any wonder that the total number of medical schools in the United States went from 160 in 1906 (before the Flexner Report) to 85 in 1920 and further down to 69 schools in 1944? A little like putting the fox in charge of the hen house, no?

Not surprisingly, Flexner 'found' that any discipline that didn't use drugs to help cure the patient was tantamount to quackery and charlatanism. Medical schools that offered courses in bioelectric Medicine, Homeopathy or Eastern Medicine, for example, were told to either drop these courses from their curriculum or lose their accreditation and underwriting support. A few schools resisted for a time, but eventually most schools cooperated (or were closed down). A similar scenario was played out in Canada. It was attempted in England against Homeopathy, but it failed due to the personal intervention of the Royal Family who had received much relief and healing at the hands of Homeopathic healers in the 19th century. By the way, the AMA was found guilty of conspiracy against chiropractors in 1987 by a federal judge and fined a couple of million dollars. Here in America, a relentless campaign of misinformation, fraud, deception, and suppression of alternative therapies and healers has been in place for the better part of this century in order to keep highly effective alternative therapies from reaching any significant plateau of public awareness. Control is exerted through "news items" and propaganda from pro-establishment organizations like The American Medical Association, The American Cancer Society, The Diabetes Foundation, etc.; local medical boards; and government agencies like the FDA, The National Institute of Health (NIH), and The National Cancer Institute (NCI), The National Academy of Science, etc. with the full cooperation of main-stream media of course .

Over the past decades, hundreds of caring, concerned, and conscientious alternative healers have been jailed and abused like common criminals for the "crime" of curing people of life-threatening diseases in an "unapproved" manner by heavy-handed government agents who swoop down on clinics with drawn guns, flax jackets, and Gestapo manners. All the while, these same agents and agencies posture themselves before TV cameras and the public under the ludicrous pretense of being servants of the people and protectors of the common good.

The medico-drug cartel was summed up by J.W Hodge, M.D., of Niagara Falls,  N.Y., in these words:   'The medical monopoly or medical trust, euphemistically called the American Medical Association, is not merely the meanest monopoly ever organized, but the most arrogant, dangerous and despotic organization which ever managed a free people in this or any other age. Any and all methods of healing the sick by means of safe, simple and natural remedies are sure to be assailed and denounced by the arrogant leaders of the AMA doctors' trust as fakes, frauds and humbugs Every practioner of the healing art who does not ally himself with the medical trust is denounced as a 'dangerous quack' and impostor by the predatory trust doctors. Every sanitarian who attempts to restore the sick to a state of health by natural means without resort to the knife or poisonous drugs, disease imparting serums, deadly toxins or vaccines, is at once pounced upon by these medical tyrants and fanatics, bitterly denounced, vilified and persecuted to the fullest extent.'

(see The Drug Story for more revelations about the AMA, the House of Rockefeller and the pharmaceutical industry)

At long last, however, the public's consciousness seems to have finally reached a critical mass and is now beginning to seriously question the efficacy and appropriateness of using orthodox therapies and allopathic medicine in general. Thank God. It's been too long overdue.

Understanding the Nature of Ill Health and Disease

The entire approach and foundation of Orthodox Medicine is based on Luis Pasteur's Germ Theory, a flawed concept. A disease condition is viewed by the orthodoxy as an isolated event, confined to the area in which it manifests itself (E.g. an ear infection, eye infection, gum infection, lung cancer, skin cancer, etc. ). Under this theory, for unknown reasons, microbes or tumors indiscriminately grow in the patient and must be cut (surgery), burned (radiation), or poisoned (drugs) out of the body. In the orthodox model, the solution is sought through mechanical and chemical means. Seeking to understand WHY the infection or disease condition appeared in the first place,  is not seriously explored. The quick fix with a prescription for drugs to smother the symptoms is the typical orthodox 'answer'.

A contemporary of Pasteur, Antoine Bechamp, had a different opinion as to why disease conditions 'took hold'. Bechamp felt that the ENVIRONMENT, or the ECOLOGY of the blood played the critical role in deciding whether disease conditions would manifest or not.

Alternative medicine explores the stressors (environmental, biological, chemical, psychological, and emotional) in a patient's life that cause a weakening of a particular energy field; which in turn allows the manifestation of a disease condition in a weakened area. In order to maintain a state of health, all energy systems within the body need to exist in a state of balance or equilibrium. Imbalance leads to conditions of discomfort (dis-ease) which eventually spirals into ill health if not corrected. The Chinese and Indians (Ayurvedic medicine) had worked all of this out thousands of years ago.

Orthodox or Allopathic Medicine utilizes poisonous substances (drugs) in non-lethal dosages in order to suppress symptoms in an affected area. This approach neither addresses the cause of the disease condition, nor is it responsible for healing the patient. Rather, the use of drugs often will temporarily mask the outer manifestations of the malady, while at the same time, drive the disease deeper into the body...only to reappear at a later date, as a more serious, and chronic health threat. One of the many flaws of the orthodox approach is that it focuses on the disease condition itself, rather than the patient. The term wholistic (or holistic) originally sprang up to distinguish those physicians whose diagnostic gestalt considers all of the physical, emotional, and spiritual energies interacting with the patient.

Do not assume that the only difference between allopathic and alternative medicine, however, is an honest difference of opinion in the philosophies and views on the origin of disease states. Hardly!. There is, in truth,  a concerted, organized agenda -concocted, planned, and contrived by the international pharmaceutical companies and organized medicine to suppress any and every alternative, non-drug therapy that WORKS. Why?

Because they want people to keep on coming back for more treatments and more drugs.

A cured patient is a lost source of income. A sick patient who is marginally "improved" is a manageable patient.

Managing patients means routine office visits and renewing of drug prescriptions. Therefore, a manageable patient is a continuing source of income; a cash cow if you will. Multiply that by a few hundred million people and you get an idea why this deceit is being put upon you. The profits from the so called "health-care" industry are staggering!

The thrust of the orthodox pharmaceutical agenda is to provide temporary relief, while never addressing the cause of the disease condition. This agenda insures regular visits to the doctor's office and requires the patient to routinely return to the pharmacy to refill his prescriptions. This is what the game is all about folks, plain and simple. Deny it or Deal with it,...Stick with it or Get Out of it! ... your choice.

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Natural Healing

The patient's immune system and the immune system alone is responsible for healing and recovery from ill health. The use of drugs and vaccines represents an assault on the immune system. In some cases, the use of a particular drug might be a wise choice to speed healing and recovery for the patient, but the use of natural, orthomolecular therapies and substances (substances normally found in Nature) that can more effectively address the cause of the disease should be considered first because natural substances work in harmony with Nature. They aid and stimulate the body to truly cure itself, without the terrible millstone of drug side-effects.

The human body is predisposed to heal itself and to exist as a healthy, thriving organism. We inhibit that process by ingesting unhealthy foods, fouling our inner environment with toxins, and relying upon poisonous substances to treat disease conditions.

Unlike 'miracle drugs' and other 'drug breakthroughs', you will never see or hear anything from mainstream media about most of the therapies described here. The Big Three see to that, but you can still glean this information from the alternative health press, books, web sites, and at health expos. Some of these alternative therapies require high-tech equipment and specialized knowledge, but many, many others can be done at home without third party intervention or supervision. It's amazing, but true, that many of the most effective healing therapies (even for grave, life-threatening disease conditions) are simple things that you can do for yourself at home. You simply have to educate yourself and take responsibility for your own health.

The following is a brief overview of some alternative therapies that have demonstrated themselves to be effective and readily obtainable, usually at a low to modest cost. This list is far from complete. As time permits, the description and scope of these and other therapies will be added to, and expanded upon.

Oxygen Therapies

Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT)

Oxygen therapies encompass more than the application of regular oxygen (O2), although regular oxygen can speed and assist healing; especially when used in higher-than-normal concentrations and under pressure, such as used in Hyperbaric Oxygen Chambers. Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) has been traditionally used for rapid detoxification in acute situations, but it also has shown to be extremely efficacious for new stroke victims. It has been found that almost all of the usual conditions (paralysis, slurred/ no speech, etc.) associated with a stroke can be minimized or eliminated entirely by subjecting the patient to a hyperbaric oxygen treatment within the first 36 hours of a stroke. The quicker the patient can be treated from the onset of the stroke, the better the results. Even cases started a few days or even weeks after a stoke have shown remarkable results. HBOT has also proven helpful in cases involving other forms of  brain damage as well.

Singlet Oxygen Therapies

Oxygen atoms can be configured into certain quasi-stable arrangements that will allow a single oxygen atom to be released. This atom is called a singlet oxygen (O1) . For therapeutic purposes, single atoms of oxygen can be released from hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) which breaks down to water (H2O) and a singlet oxygen (O1), and also from ozone (O3), which reduces to oxygen (O2) and a singlet oxygen . When a singlet oxygen atom is released within the body, it is highly reactive and will oxidize (reduce or break down) the molecular structure of undesirable and harmful organisms (bacteria, foreign proteins, etc.) and diseased tissue (E.g. cancer cells). This high-energy form of oxygen (O1) possesses a greatly enhanced healing capacity than that exhibited by regular oxygen (O2).

Hydrogen Peroxide

A bottle of 3½ % Hydrogen Peroxide is available in any pharmacy for under a dollar and can be used daily to keep the mouth and gums germ-free (always use full strength and try to retain in the mouth as long as possible). It should also be conscientiously applied to disinfect any type of oral infection, cut, sore, or wound that one may encounter. For external use, the drug store variety of hydrogen peroxide is OK, but it does have some low levels of contaminants in it. For internal use, it's wiser to use Food-grade hydrogen peroxide. You can make your own 3½ % hydrogen peroxide by diluting 35% food-grade hydrogen peroxide by a ratio of 10:1 with distilled water.  However, that should not stop you from using pharmacy-grade hydrogen peroxide externally- if you are in normal health. People trying to recover from serious diseases such as AIDS or cancer need to be more concerned about ingesting contaminants. 35% Food-Grade Hydrogen Peroxide is available at many farm supply outlets and by mail order. Since it's more concentrated, 35% hydrogen peroxide can produce spectacular results when intelligently applied. Hydrogen peroxide can also be applied either internally as injections (directly into a cancerous tumor for example) or intravenously into the blood stream. If properly diluted, hydrogen peroxide can also be ingested.

Medical Cartel Sponsored 'Studies'
Of course, you have to know what you're doing. At higher concentrations, H2O2 is powerful and can burn tissue, but look to the alternative health press for information from practitioners who are actually using this therapy. Don't expect on an honest accessment from the allopathic crowd. Like most cheap, unpatentable natural solutions, the pharmaceutical/organized medicine cartel will try to frieghten you off from using these therapies with scares stories of exaggerated dangers, ommision of relevant data, and insertion of misleading statements.

For example, they will point to rat studies that show increassed stomach cancers from ingesting H2O2. By promoting this 'study', the cartel wants you to draw the conclusion that you will get stomach cancer from injesting hydrogen perozide without actually saying it. No additional details such as the concentration of the peroxide administered, frequency of dosage, quantity given vis a vis body weight etc., are provided about the 'study' in these press reports-only the bottom line conclusion:.

Of course, most knowledgeable researchers know that rat studies don't equate to people studies. Rat studies, in fact,  have an extremely limited range of applicability for purposes of human extrapolation. In addition,  most studies are funded by pharmaceuticals or government agencies and they have an agenda that has nothing to do with sincere scientific inquiry. Ralph Moss and Linus Pauling are two individuals who come to mind who looked at different cartel sponsored 'studies' and clearly demonstrated that the Big Boys can and will skew a 'study' in any direction they wish it to go. Scientific honesty among cartel sponsored investigative groups is a myth. All medical schools, teaching universities, and government health organizations such as the National Institute of Health (NIH), National Cancer Institute, National Academy of Science, etc., etc. are all under the cartel's propaganda umbrella.

Ozone
Ozone (O3) is composed of three atoms of oxygen lightly bound together. One of those atoms can easily break away and form regular oxygen (O2) and a singlet oxygen atom (O1). Through oxidation, the singlet oxygen atom is capable of producing amazing healing results. Ozone can be produced with a hot or "cold" spark, with ultraviolet light, or with a method invented by Nikola Tesla called cold plasma ozone production. The cold plasma method produces much larger quantities of ozone and is the preferred means of production for therapeutic purposes. Larger, cold plasma ozone machines can only be legally purchased outside of the United States, but there are underground 'suitcase' size units being manufactured clandestinely in the U.S.. Smaller cold plasma ozone generators, however, are legally available in the U.S.as water pruifiers (send e-mail <Ken Adachi, Editor> for more info).

All cold plasma ozone generators can easily produce high quality Ozonated Water, which can be ingested as often as desired. The effects of drinking ozonated water on a regular basis can be very healthful. People with serious disease conditions will notice more-pronounced effects in a shorter space of time than those who are in good health, but the benefits of ozonated water are realized by all who use it, whether you have a serious health concern or not. The ozone from the ozonated water passes into the bloodstream via the stomach/small intestines and provides the benefits of ozone without the need for expensive equipment. Some people notice a very slight sensation of light headedness the first time they drink ozone water. It's temporary and usually only happens the first time- if at all. The reaction is due to slightly more oxygen reaching the brain than normal. Ingested daily, ozone water will progressively send ozone into deeper tissues of the body, oxidizing non organic drug residues and hidden, dormant pathogens. You might be surprised to learn that the virus that gave you chicken pox as a child or herpes as a young adult is still hidden deep within the body such as in the nerve ganglion at the base of the spine. Your immune system developed antibodies which normally hold these residual bugs in check, but that doesn't mean that the bugs are gone, as any person who suffers recurrent bouts of herpes will attest. But if you hit them long enough and hard enough with ozone (or certain other alternative therapies), they will be gone-for good.

Another useful product that can be applied topically is called Ozonated Olive Oil. It is made by bubbling ozone through olive oil for a considerable period of time (weeks) until the olive oil eventually becomes saturated with the ozone molecules and becomes much thicker. Afterwards, the product can be applied as a balm to infected areas and will often greatly promote and/or speed healing.

Methods of Ozone Application
Medically, ozone can be applied in different ways. One of the oldest methods, used in Germany for over 60 years, is called Autohemotherapy. This technique involves removeing about a pint of blood, ozonating it, and return it intravenously to the patient. It works, but it's rather limited in the amount of ozone applied.

Another method has the patient hooked up to a dialysis type machine with blood coming out one arm, going through the machine for ozonation, and returned via tubes hooked up to the other arm. You get a lot more ozone into the body with this technique, but the pumping mechnaisms used to push the blood around can damage the membranes of the red blood cells somewhat.

A third technique is called Ozone Injection. Like its name implies, the ozone is carefully and slowly injected into the patient. Ozone, remember, is composed of oxygen atoms. Oxygen dissolves into the blood; it does not form bubbles in the bloodstream like air, which is composed of oxygen and 80% nitrogen. Many ozone specialist prefer this later method, but each of these ozone techniques have their advocates.
 

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Bioelectro Medicine

There are a number of devices that use specialized electric fields to alter the function or condition of targeted tissue, organisms, or cells within the body. These electric fields can be programmed to promote the healing of healthy tissue or inhibit the growth of undesired organisms. Where there are electric fields , there are also magnetic fields, usually rotated at 90 degress to each other. The interplay of the electric and magnetic fields play a role in this therapy, but the frequency, the shape of the wave, the duration and polarity of the pulse, etc., all play into the mix and can make the difference between success or failure depending on the care and attention given to these parameters.

This is not necessarily a new technology. At the turn of the 19th century, Nikola Tesla patented many Electro-inventions that demonstrated incredible health-promoting attributes; some of them based on the use of his high frequency, high voltage DC pulse generator circuits which produced a new ether-derived form of energy called Radiant Energy.  Tesla had even patented a highly efficient cold plasma ozone generator by 1893.

Dr. Royal Rife
In the late 20's and early 1930's, Dr. Royal Raymond Rife from San Diego, California, developed a high powered microscope which he used in conjunction with a frequency generator. Using special UV light, Rife's mircroscope was capable of 60,000x magnification! This degree of magnification allowed him to observe LIVE virus and bacteria organisms while he applied the MOR (Mortal Oscillatory Resonance) frequency from his frequency generator via plasma tube radiation of the energy. He was able to destroy all manner of disease organisms (including cancer related organisms) by merely 'tuning' the generator to the correct resonant frequency of these organisms and applying the oscillating electric fields via the plasma driven, "Beam Ray Tube". Everything in the universe, living or dead, and its own resonant frequency.  If you apply this exact resonant frequency to the object or organism, it will begin vibrating until it literally shatters itself. You've all seen the wine glass and the opera singer demonstration. Same deal for microbes.

60,000x magnifications is an unheard of degree of magnification in a light microscope, even by today's technical standards. Today's electron microscope can deliver high magnification, but it can only view DEAD organisms. The ability to view micro organims in a LIVING state is of great importance to diagnostic and therapeutic goals. This is an extremely important point to understand.

Rife's microscope played no role in the actual destruction of the pathogenic organisms, but it allowed him to view the effects of the electric fields from the Beam Ray Tube upon the organism itself. As Rife adjusted and tuned his frequency generator to the correct frequency, he was able to observe the disintegration of the bacteria, parasite, or virii under the influence of the resonant electro-magnetic fields exerted by the Beam Ray Tube.

At first, Rife's enormous accomplishments were ballyhooed in the press. He was feted and hosted by the local medical elites of the day who were hoping to climb onto the Glory Bandwagon with him and get their mug published in the newspaper as a supporter and cohort of the "man who could finally end cancer". But the Big Boys finally caught up with him. I'm referring to the string pullers in organized medicine and the pharmaceutical industry. Needless to say, once word of Rife's success began to spread too wide, he was quickly 'neutralized' by organized medicine and demoralized into obscurity (unending court litigation, charges of quakery, intimidation of financial supporters, the burning down of laboratories, etc...the "usual' routine). His principle persecutor was the head of the American Medical Association and chief editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association. His name was Dr. Morris Fishbein and he never treated a patient in his life. He was motivated more by an unmitigated lust for greed and power, and less by a desire to save lives. Failing to convince Rife to sell him the exclusive rights to his technique and therapy, Fishbein set out to crush Rife with a vengence. The outrageous injustices against Rife by Fishbein and the medical establishment are explained in great depth in a book by Barry Lynes called The Cancer Cure That Worked.

Fortunately, we have physicist Gary Wade, a specialist in Rife technology, available to readers of this web site. He will explain to you exactly how Rife achieved his amazing results and how YOU can learn how to apply Rife's hard earned technology yourself. You should waste no time in examing Gary's extraordinay and generously shared insights in Rife technology. Some of the best books about Rife were written by Barry Lynes (E.g. The Cancer Cure That Worked). Dr James Bare of Albuquerque, New Mexico has also published a manual and video on how to build your own Rife device
( http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/ (http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/)  ). See this special page devoted to Royal Rife links that will bring you to many excellent web sites talking about Rife and his work (http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/rifelinks.shtml (http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/rifelinks.shtml)).

Geroges Lakhovsky
Another brilliant observer and thinker was the Russian-born engineer, Georges Lakhovsky.  Lakhovsky theorized that the genetic filaments stands within the nucleus of a living cell acted as a coil and exhibited all the properties properties required of an oscillator; namely: inductance, capacitance, and resistance. Lakhovsky postulated that all living cells, including disease organisms, could act as both an emitter and receiver of very high frequency oscillations.

According to his theory, a state of health or disease was dependent on whether the oscillations from healthy cells were maintained (a state of equilibrium) or were overtaken by the oscillations of disease-causing cells (disequilibrium). He found that he could boost the oscillatory level of weakened cells and overcome disease by attaching a simple coil-shaped 'antennae' to the affected area and leaving it in place. Lakhovsky referred to these antennae as oscillating circuits and they were worn by people as collars, belts, or bracelets. He claimed that his 'antennae' captured and focused sympathetic waves from the cosmos (cosmic waves) which resonated with harmonics of the fundamental frequency at which the weakened cell oscillated.

Whenever additional oscillating energy (from cosmic waves), of the same frequency or harmonics of that frequency, are introduced into an oscillating circuit (the nucleus of the cell), the oscillations within that cell will be strengthened through a phenomena of physics called resonance. According to Lakhovsky, the now-strengthened oscillations emanating from the formerly weakened human cell could now overtake the oscillations of the disease-causing organisms and cause them to diminish in strength and subsequently die off.

Lakhovsky conducted an experiment with plants in 1924 to establish the validity of his theory. He inoculated ten potted geranium plants with a plant disease that causes cancerous tumors. Coiled around the stem of one of the geraniums, he affixed an open ended coil of thick copper wire about 30 cm in diameter. It was held in place by an ebonite stake stuck into the pot. While the other nine inoculated geraniums quickly succumbed to the cancerous disease, the one geranium with the attached coil (the 'antennae) sloughed off the cancerous growth and thrived into a robust and healthy plant. Lakhovsky had similar success when these antennae coils (the 'oscillating circuits ' mentioned above) were used with people and animals. He later expanded his research with the development of the Multi-Wave Oscillator (explained below).

Lakhovsky's Multi-Wave Oscillator (MWO)

Geroges Lakhovsky published an extremely important book into French, German, Italian, and Spanish in the 1920's called The Secret of Life. Unfortunately, it wasn't available in English until September, 1939-at the very outbreak of World War II. Occupied with the emerging drama of World War II, the book went unnoticed and unreviewed. Thanks to Dr Bob Beck, however, many researchers are today re-discovering Lakhovsky's astounding Multi-Wave Oscillator. This instrument manufactures a broad range of high frequency pulsed signals that radiate energy into patient via two resonators: one resonator acting as a transmitter and the other as a receiver. The patient sits on a wooden stool in between the two resonators and is exposed to these energies for about 15 minutes. These energies increase the resonance of healthy cells and create disequilibrium in disease organisms. His clinical results created a lot of excitement in Europe where his reputaion quickly spread. You can read more about the MWO on the Georges Lakovsky page. Interested readers can obtain a reprint of Lakhovsky's The Secret of Life and The Waves That Heal by Mark Clement from Educate-Yourself (see the Products page).

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Bob Beck Rescues Lakhovsky's MWO from Obscurity
 In the early 60's, Dr Bob Beck found an original Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator in the basement of a well known southern California hospital. He took it apart and described exactly how it was built in a series of articles published by Borderlands in 1963. After Beck's articles were published, a number of builders began to assemble MWO's and the word started to spread.

Two MWO builders who lived on the west coast, using the information contained in Beck articles, began making and selling a lot of Multi Wave Oscillators. Apparently they worked fairly well because the FDA got word of the MWO's growing popularity and told Beck to come to Washington. Beck and the two builders were told to lay off  promoting the MWO and stop building them. They were told in no uncertain terms to cease and desist immediately ...or else.

Beck and one of the MWO builders, Ed Skillings, complied, but the second builder, Ralph Bergstresser, was determined to keep going, so he actually formed a church dedicated to the worship of the MWO. Yes, you read that correctly. And, for a couple of years at least, his 'parishioners' were able to come to church, sit around the MWO-perched high atop an altar, with resonator antennas glowing - and received the 'blessed waves' from the Sacred Oscillator. It helped a lot of church goers, until the 'pastor' was finally thrown into the slammer by the Feds and had his modern version of the Ark of the Covenant hauled away. He got out after a couple of years, but still went on building MWO's anyway, distributing them through underground sources. Many present day owners of  properly working MWO's are either using units built by or copies of the "pastor's" work (now why isn't there an Oscar category reserved for a guy like that?).

Blood-Electrification

In recent years, different electro-medicine units  have been promoted at health expos and through magazine articles, interviews, books, etc.. One of the more interesting devices is the blood electrifier of Dr Bob Beck. I've seen laboratory reports and Institutional Review Board studies that seem to clearly support claims made by Dr BobBeck that his blood electrification device has caused 'complete spontaneous remission' in literally thousands of AIDS patients, cancer patients, and chronic fatigue sufferers among others. Dr Beck discovered the possibilities offered by blood electrification after reading a short article in 1991 in a journal called Science News.

The Discovery
In the Fall of 1990,  two researchers,  Drs William Lyman and Steven Kaali, working at Albert Einstein Medical College in New York City made an important discovery. They found that they could inactivate the HIV virus by applying a low voltage direct current electrical potential with an extremely small current flow to AIDS infected blood in a test tube. Initially, they discovered this in the lab by inserting two platinum electrodes into a glass tube filled with HIV-1 (type 1) infected blood. They applied a direct current to the electrodes and found that a current flow in the range of  50-100 microamperes (uA) produced the most effective results. Practically all of the HIV viral particles were adversely affected while normal blood cells remained unharmed.  The viral particles were not directly destroyed by the electric current, but rather the outer protein coating of the virus was affected in such a way as to prevent the virus from producing reverse transcriptase, a necessary enzyme needed by the virus to invade human cells. Reverse transcriptase allows the virus to enter a human T cell line (called CEM-SS) and commandeer the DNA reproduction machinery. After using the host cell to reproduce itself into thousands of new virii, the swollen host cell (now called syncytia or giant cell) will burst and spew the contents into the bloodstream or lymph system. This is how the virus spreads, but lacking reverse transcriptase, the HIV virus can't invade the host cell and it becomes vulnerable to destruction by the body's immune system. (The details of this experiment can be read from Kaali's patent application.)

Getting the Word Out?
A brief announcement of this discovery appeared in The Houston Post  (Mar 20, 1991), then in Science News (Mar. 30, 1991 pg. 207) and later in  Longevity magazine: (Dec.1992 pg. 14). Following their work in the Fall of 1990, Kaali and Lyman presented their findings at the First International Symposium on Combination Therapies (an AIDS conference) in Washington DC on March 14th, 1991. Kaali outlined two methods for treating an AIDS patient with this new therapy: One method involved removing a small amount of blood, electrifying it and then returning it to the patient's body. The second method involved sewing a miniature electrifying power supply along with two tiny electrodes directly into the lumen of an artery. For long term treatment, the mini electrifying unit needed to be removed and relocated to a new artery site after 30-45 days since scar tissue and calcification forming around the implant unit would lead to artery blockage. Kaali (along with co-inventor Peter Schwolsky) filed for a patent on this implantable electrifying device on Nov 16, 1990 and nine months later was granted patent #5,139,684  on August 18, 1992. It's interesting to note two things here:
1. In order to obtain a patent from the United States Patent Office, Kaali and Schwolsky had to prove that the device works as claimed. Lacking solid proof, patents are simply not granted.
2. Very often it takes years to obtain a patent, yet this patent was granted in only nine months; a further indication to me of the strength their proven claims

It's also interesting to note that other than the 3 publications mentioned above and the March '91 AIDS conference, nothing again appeared in print, radio, or TV about this important discovery as a potential treatment and cure for AIDS from Kaali and company. Most knowledgeable observers feel that Kaali and Lyman's discovery was intentionally suppressed following the March '91 AIDS conference presentation. If AIDS research was on the level and not the sham that it actually is, this should have made front page news around the world. By the way, in July (2000), a woman with Mycoplsma Incognitus (Gulf War Illness) E mailed me and told me (after reading this story) that she had called Albert Einstein College and spoke directly with Dr William Lyman, one of the co-discoverers of blood electrification. She wanted to know how effective he thought blood electrifiation would work against mycoplasma. Lyman  told her that he had no idea what she was talking about. He denied knowing anything about blood electrifiction and couldn't give her any information about it at all. Such is the vice grip power of the medical cartel.

Enter Dr Bob Beck
A man named Professor Walter Schnitder drew Dr Robert C. Beck's attention to the above mentioned item in Science News. Beck looked up the patent and decided to try and duplicate the therapy, but he wanted to do it non-invasively; that is by applying the electric current from outside the body. Now if you apply a direct current (DC) potential to the skin, you're going to get an electrolysis effect and that can cause problems, so Beck designed a circuit that varied the voltage with an alternating current (AC) at a very low frequency and avoided the electrolysis problem. The waveform that Beck chose is not the typical sine wave seen in AC household outlets, but rather is a bi-phasic square wave. Square waves generate a large number of harmonics. Harmonics are frequency multibles of the original frequency. For example, a 4 Hertz (hz) square wave can produce harmonics (with the right equipment) of 8 hz, 16 hz, 32 hz, etc. right up into the radio frequency range. Beck finally settled on 3.92 hz as the ideal base frequency and assembled a schematic of the simple square wave oscillator , including a complete parts list. He used short, one inch lengths of  stainless steel welding rods with attached wires for electrodes and started to experiment on himself.

Gradually, he began feeling stronger, had more energy and started losing his excessive weight (he was over 300 lbs at the time). After a 7 or 8months, his weight was down to 150 lbs and he felt better than ever. He went on the lecture circuit, talked for free, and gave the schematic and related construction/protocol information away without charge. AIDS patients, particularly, experienced dramatic reversals of their deteriorating conditons using the blood electrifier, but the unit seemed to help many other conditions as well, whether autoimmune, viral, or bacterial in origin. (more information about Beck's papers and protocols can be obtained by contacting the Editor)
 

Pulsed, Electro-Magnetic Therapy

Pulsed- low, mid, and high frequency AC signals, when applied to the body, can produce therapeutic electric/ magnetic fields. Properly configured, they can also produce scalar waves. The special attributes of scalar waves were first described mathematically by James Clerk Maxwell in 1873, and later by Nikola Tesla. A certain type of pulsed electro-magnetic field, with their attendant scalar waves, seems to stimulate re-growth and regeneration in injured tissue. Covalent waves (conventional sine waves) do not have the same effect. Dr Robert O. Becker, M.D., discusses this phenomena in two of his recent books that deal with electro-medicine: The Body Electric (1985) and Cross Currents (1990).

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Nutritional Therapies

Introduction

"You are what you eat! ". Did your mother ever tell you that? Well, mine did, but I didn't appreciate the wisdom of those words until I approached middle age. Today, I realize that the biggest impediment to enjoying a truly robust state of health is the Standard American Diet (aptly abbreviated, SAD). While we could spend a lot of time on details, a short version of the SAD diet can be summarized as follows: Refined and processed foods can ruin your health and lower your immunity, setting you up for disease conditions.

In order to obtain a higher level of immunity and improved health, it's necessary to stop eating processed, refined foods and start eating whole, unprocessed raw-as-possible vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, sea plants (seaweed), a small amount of fish life if you want animal protein, and lots of pure, clean water.

Change Gradually
If you try to change everything about your diet all at once, you won't stick with it. Go slow. Change one item at a time and get accustomed to the healthier alternative before tackling another.

Start with soft drinks (or soda). All soft drinks are simply ruinous to your health. Coke, 7-Up, Pepsi, Sprite, Dr Pepper, etc. It's ALL GARBAGE and it's RUINING YOUR HEALTH. Read the ingredients on the side of a can of soda. It will usually list 17-24 grams of sugar. That's the equivalent of 6-10 teaspoons of sugar with each and every 12 oz can that you're guzzling down. When you ingest refined sugar, you lower your body's immunity for FOUR HOURS. If you're drinking soft drinks here and there throughout the day, then you're keeping your immunity suppressed all day long. People with suppressed immunity seem to easily pick up every bug that's going around. Have you ever noticed that little connection in people (especially teenagers) who drink sodas all day long?

Another problem with soft drinks is the tremendous amount of PHOSPHOROUS that's contained in them. Large amounts of phosphorous are bad news for the body because they combine with other minerals (like Calcium) and tie them up for eventual excretion. Now calcium is a mineral that your body DOES NEED in large amounts in your bloodstream for daily use. If your soft drink is yanking the calcium out of your blood stream, where does the body get the calcium it needs for everyday  jobs? Why,  it gets it from your teeth and bones!

Women who are worried about osteoporosis would be way ahead of the game by avoiding soft drinks (and excess animal protein), instead of going broke buying calcium supplements at the health food store (which are mostly exiting out the other end anyway).

Replace the soft drinks with WATER. It usually takes a couple of days to break a sugar addiction (oh, you never thought of YOU as being addicted to anything? Well, answer me this: Do you have a CRAVING for soft drinks when you don't have them? If you do, then you are definitely  addicted). Satisfy your desire for sugar by eating sweet fruit (like banannas) during the adjustment period. Eventually you will come to love drinking water, especially ozonated water. . The more you drink, the better you'll feel. Try it.

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The Budwig Diet

Germany's 90 year old Dr Joanna Budwig, nominated 6 times for the Nobel Prize, has made the most remarkable discovery of them all! After 30 years of research, she has found that 2 simple food items: 1. Flax Seed Oil (cold-pressed, unprocessed) and 2. Low Fat Cottage Cheese will CURE or prevent many forms of cancers and a long list of other degenerative disease including cardiovascular diseases and skin diseases! Unprocessed flax seed oil provides 2 essential fatty acids seriously deficient in the standard American diet: Linolenic and Linoleic acids. These two unsaturated fatty acids have 3 high-energy double bonds (pi-electrons) in their outer electron shells. These fatty acids affect the membranes of animal cells and permit a thousand-fold increase in oxygen transport and assimilation! By substantially increasing the oxidation potential within the cell, Dr Budwig proved what her German predecessor, Dr Otto Warburg, had discovered 30 years earlier: cancer cells cannot survive in an oxygen-rich environment. With sulfur-rich protein and calcium provided by the cottage cheese, all the elements are in place for membrane repair and increased energy transfer. A 2001 news item posted on the Internet from Duke University caught my attention (and ire) claiming to be hot on the  trail of a 'new' discovery concerning the anticancer benefits of flax seed oil. I contacted the editor and set him straight on a few historical facts. To recover from cancer, the Budwig Diet needs to be taken in conjunction with a strict, health-promoting diet free of processed, devitalized foods (see the Gerson Therapy below).

Urine Therapy

In 1945, John W. Armstrong published a book called The Water of Life, A Treatise on Urine Therapy. The book explored the difficult-to-accept idea that drinking one's own urine will promote healing and restore health to those afflicted with grave illnesses. Martha Christy also published a book on this topic titled Your Own Perfect Medicine in the late 1980's. I highly recommend reading both of them. Christy's approach is more technical and includes injections of prepared urine tissue and taking urine drops under the tongue.

Armstong's approach is simpler: To resolve life-threatening disease conditions, drink every drop of your own urine and neither eat nor drink anything else until you are completely well!! In his book, Armstong provides the history of many, many patients with a variety of serious conditions (cancers, massive infections, heart conditions, etc.) who were frequently near The End. In some cases, the patient was so gravely disabled, that he couldn't produce any urine of his own. In those cases, Armstong would 'jump start' the patient with his own urine. Afterwards, the patient was able to produce a small amount of his own. With each subsequent ingestion of urine, the patient would gain in both strength and relief from pain. For the most serious cases, patients drank nothing but their own urine for periods of 90, 120, 150 days! Some, even longer. Armstrong points out that rubbing the body with old urine (for a substantial period of time, E.g.1-2 hours) is a necessary adjunct treatment to ingestion in very serious cases. In less severe cases, rubbing with old urine will clear up most skin conditions and produce a smooth, blemish-free skin if applied regularly (ladies, take note). Why this works is explained at length in the books, but briefly the

1. replenishment of vital tissues lost to the ill patient through the urine and the

2. reingestion, refinement, and re-filtering of antibodies and other immune enhancing substances allows the body to exclusively concentrate on destroying, unclogging, and removing the offending organisms and diseased tissue, without the burdens of routine work such as digestion and normal detoxification

Of course, we normally think of both urine and stool elimination as waste, but urine, unlike feces, is totally sterile. Mind you, it's the filtrate of your own blood. Many people in normal health drink urine daily in order to keep their health and maintain physical beauty. Get the books and read them. In the event of survival difficulties, this simple technique can save your life.

Beyond the Urine Therapy Story, I knew I had discovered a trusted and kindred spirit when Armstong began the book's Introduction with the following words: "Owing to the increasing part played by vested interests in many branches of human endeavor, not least in the very lucrative providing of remedies for disease, intelligent members of the public, are growing more and more distrustful of orthodox medical methods."

He continued the book's Introduction by asking why, after more than 50 years (as of 1945), can orthodox cancer researchers only offer the knife, radium, or X-rays to address this malignancy after so much time, money, and effort has been expended to discover its cause and cure? The author further inquires, why, after so many letters from doctors testifying to the highly unsatisfactory results of radium treatment (repeatedly published in the British Medical Journal), did the Cancer Ring ( the Cancer Establishment or Cancer Industry as we would refer to it today) continue to tout radium as the "best" therapy? Finally, why, did the Cancer Research Ring, who "still asks the public to donate large sums of money towards the discovery of a cure", continuously discount and belittle effective treatments for cancer, when those therapies were proposed by practitioners of non-orthodox medicine?

58 years later, nothing much has changed when it comes to the politics of Big Medicine. Today, we know the answers to John Armstrong's questions. Only the most naive and uninformed among us continue to believe the party line spouted by the pharmaceutical/medical establishment and their propaganda flunkies such as the The American Cancer Society: "The Cure for Cancer is just around the Corner"; "Get a Checkup and Write a Check"; "The Race for The Cure"; " Marathon to Beat  Breast Cancer"; etc. It's pure rot: nothing but lies to bilk the trusting and believing public out of their money and fend the appearace of doing honest research. The promoters and planners of these publicity/ fund raising events deserve the greatest possible condemnation for their deceit.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: suspicious mind on October 05, 2010, 08:41:31 PM
it is no wonder there is a thriller connection. for sure taking all of these would turn one into a zombie. :(
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 05, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
Thanks Souza for the posting.
If he took all those drugs he would have been dead long time ago. I had stated on other threads that Michael has said in an interview that he does not take any aspirins, tylenol, aleve for headhaches. So why on earth would he take all those prescription drugs?
He was very consciencious of his health,and weight. This is a puzzle that we may never know unless he comes back and explains everything.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: SEHF on October 05, 2010, 09:37:27 PM
I think he had the idea for a long long time to fake his death and there's concrete evidence of just that which also involved the drug demerol some 7+ years ago. I think he may have battled addictions to pain killers over the years but it's ridiculous to think all of those drugs were being fed into his frame, yet his autopsy reported a healthy liver. The abuse of propfol alone causes major liver toxicity problems let alone a whole concoction of all the other drugs mixed in.. ridiculous. He was a lot of things and stupid wasn't one of them and I really doubt he just laid around dying leeching in anesthesia like candy.
 
It's all so fake, and if it isn't holy shit is it ever a coincidence.. all 20,000 of them.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: reading_on on October 05, 2010, 09:56:02 PM
I know someone that takes all of these drugs plus a couple of more. She has an anxiety disorder. She doesn't act like you or I when we have take a couple of these drugs. These make her "normal". Interesting enough she also has a sleep disorder.  She hold a full time high stress job, a part time job from home and is a single parent.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on October 05, 2010, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
I think he had the idea for a long long time to fake his death and there's concrete evidence of just that which also involved the drug demerol some 7+ years ago. I think he may have battled addictions to pain killers over the years but it's ridiculous to think all of those drugs were being fed into his frame, yet his autopsy reported a healthy liver. The abuse of propfol alone causes major liver toxicity problems let alone a whole concoction of all the other drugs mixed in.. ridiculous. He was a lot of things and stupid wasn't one of them and I really doubt he just laid around dying leeching in anesthesia like candy.
 
It's all so fake, and if it isn't holy shit is it ever a coincidence.. all 20,000 of them.

Thank you , SEHF.  Perfectly stated and on point!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: truthprevails on October 05, 2010, 10:04:09 PM
I've never believed the drug addiction stories, but I do harbour doubts re: hoax and am afraid MJ may have been murdered.  I feel that if he's dead, something's very fishy... I really hope the truth will come out, and I hope that everyone who believes 100% in the hoax is right!  It may seem strange that I can't make up my mind, but I do go back and forth, as I find some things very odd... Can't forget Janet's smiles in that interview she gave, and how it was kinda "back to business" for so many in MJ's family... I won't even mention Joe.  :roll:  :?  But then other days I think of MJ's kids and the 1+ year of absence and I end up crying and mourning.  So please don't kick me off the forum... It's a good place to be, among people united by a common love and passion.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 06, 2010, 04:16:51 AM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
I've never believed the drug addiction stories, but I do harbour doubts re: hoax and am afraid MJ may have been murdered.  I feel that if he's dead, something's very fishy... I really hope the truth will come out, and I hope that everyone who believes 100% in the hoax is right!  It may seem strange that I can't make up my mind, but I do go back and forth, as I find some things very odd... Can't forget Janet's smiles in that interview she gave, and how it was kinda "back to business" for so many in MJ's family... I won't even mention Joe.  :roll:  :?  But then other days I think of MJ's kids and the 1+ year of absence and I end up crying and mourning.  So please don't kick me off the forum... It's a good place to be, among people united by a common love and passion.


I understand you. It is very hard to maintain faith and positiveness. I felt the same at the begining. When they found good clues that he did not die, I believed that he was alive, once they found clues that the family was crying especially Katherine, I felt he was dead. I do strongly believe he did fake his death, to get out of this Illuminati, and probably his concerts. He probably did not feel like doing the 50 concerts. He wanted to do only 10.  Nobody will kick you off if you are skeptical. We all love Michael here. God bless.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: suspicious mind on October 06, 2010, 06:42:14 AM
Quote from: "reading_on"
I know someone that takes all of these drugs plus a couple of more. She has an anxiety disorder. She doesn't act like you or I when we have take a couple of these drugs. These make her "normal". Interesting enough she also has a sleep disorder.  She hold a full time high stress job, a part time job from home and is a single parent.

wow  i hope you will encourage your friend to find some other way to deal with their situation.
with the L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: sprint911 on October 06, 2010, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Thanks Souza for the posting.
If he took all those drugs he would have been dead long time ago. I had stated on other threads that Michael has said in an interview that he does not take any aspirins, tylenol, aleve for headhaches. So why on earth would he take all those prescription drugs?
He was very consciencious of his health,and weight. This is a puzzle that we may never know unless he comes back and explains everything.
I don't recall him saying that. Can you provide the link?
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: LethalChaos117 on October 06, 2010, 08:44:22 AM
It is truly all about MJ, my goodness. This is the best thread ever!!! I see what he is doing but it blows my mind what must be coming soon. Does anyone think something may happen with the vote to legaliZe in Cali dealing with Michael. COuld they rig the voting system like they did in the 2000 presidential election? I think its show time!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: SoulSerene on October 06, 2010, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: "truthprevails"
I've never believed the drug addiction stories, but I do harbour doubts re: hoax and am afraid MJ may have been murdered.  I feel that if he's dead, something's very fishy... I really hope the truth will come out, and I hope that everyone who believes 100% in the hoax is right!  It may seem strange that I can't make up my mind, but I do go back and forth, as I find some things very odd... Can't forget Janet's smiles in that interview she gave, and how it was kinda "back to business" for so many in MJ's family... I won't even mention Joe.  :roll:  :?  But then other days I think of MJ's kids and the 1+ year of absence and I end up crying and mourning.  So please don't kick me off the forum... It's a good place to be, among people united by a common love and passion.

I never bought into the drug addiction crap either....what he was supposed to have been taking didn't match with the autopsy report-the ambulance-the death bed pic etc.....but i feel if he had been murdered then it would have been by some professional who knew what they were doing and would have been convincing, and we wouldn't have been able to find all these errors they made..if it had happened as we have been told it happened then it would have all made sense, and wouldn't have found all these errors either, so the only other thing left is the fake death theory..and as far as that goes, Michael was a clever man and knew many who were clever, and if he wanted to fake his death and not come back then he would have comvinced us...so what are we left with?...he faked his death and has done these inconsitencies on purpose for us to get to the bottom of!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: SoulSerene on October 06, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
that last line should have read
he faked his death and intended on coming back... and did these inconsitencies on purpose for us to get to the bottom of!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 06, 2010, 03:00:20 PM
I am curious as if people think this info is good and worth reading. I'll explain why later on.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: *Mo* on October 06, 2010, 03:07:30 PM

Wow, where did you find all this info Sous?  You must have been doing a lot of research while I was abroad!!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: paula-c on October 06, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
If it is good information, must be read very well
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: backstager on October 06, 2010, 03:18:18 PM
There is no way I'll ever believe that he used that much medication, let alone owned it. I never bought into the whole "drug addict" story. He was waaay to coordinated to be on so many drugs, and not to mention healthy.

Thanks for the info, its definitely worth reading.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: SoulSerene on October 06, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
definately worth reading
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: MissG on October 06, 2010, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I am curious as if people think this info is good and worth reading. I'll explain why later on.


Yes, the info is worth reading.

Since the 1st day that Murray became the "executor of MJ" some words ring my bells.
During the research, I tried to find similarities on the case by triying to understand, from the hoax point of view, how MJ would "heal the world" or send a message based on something regarding human rights.

This post of mine may be is not interesting (if fits better in other thread, please, feel free to move it ;) ), or have nothing to do with the question you want to accomplished. Who knows! may be is even extremely boring, but I´ll take the time to post it, because imo, it is relevant to may be understand the issue concerning MJ-->drugs given-->how the drugs were administered outside the hospital by a non qualified anestesiologist-->Murray being judge by it.

Having the bedroom picture on mind,
I do see some similarities within the sedatives administered and their reaction to the body of the intaker and how those drugs were administered with a more complex scenario that leads to the same end "Lethal Dose"

HOSPIRA, INC. and LETHAL INJECTION DRUGS: On March 31, 2010, Hospira Inc., the pharmaceutical company that manufactures all three lethal injection drugs, and the only US manufacturer of the anesthetic sodium thiopental, sent a letter  to state departments of correction, stating their objection to the use of these drugs for executions. A shortage of sodium thiopental, used in both the three and one-drug protocols, may have prompted this letter, but the objection was to the use of any of the drugs for capital punishment purposes.

Lethal injection can cause excruciating pain. Since the first lethal injection on December 7, 1982, over 1,000 prisoners in the USA have been executed by this method and it has all but replaced other methods of execution.
http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty ... id=1101012 (http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/lethal-injection/page.do?id=1101012)


Lethal injection is the practice of injecting a person with a fatal dose of drugs (typically a
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barbiturate, paralytic, and potassium
solution) for the express purpose of causing the immediate death of the subject. The main application for this procedure is capital punishment, but the term may also be applied in a broad sense to euthanasia and suicide. It kills the person by first putting the person to sleep, then stopping the breathing and heart in that order.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection)

Barbiturates are drugs that act as central nervous system depressants, and, by virtue of this, they produce a wide spectrum of effects, from mild sedation to total anesthesia. They are also effective as anxiolytics, as hypnotics, and as anticonvulsants. They have addiction potential, both physical and psychological. Barbiturates have now largely been replaced by benzodiazepines  in routine medical practice - for example, in the treatment of anxiety and insomnia – mainly because benzodiazepines are significantly less dangerous in overdose. However, barbiturates are still used in general anesthesia, as well as for epilepsy. Barbiturates are derivatives of barbituric acid.


Neuromuscular blocking drugs block neuromuscular transmission at the neuromuscular junction,[1] causing paralysis of the affected skeletal muscles. This is accomplished either by acting presynaptically via the inhibition of acetylcholine (ACh) synthesis or release, or by acting postsynaptically at the acetylcholine receptors of the motor nerve end-plate. While there are drugs that act presynaptically (such as botulinum toxin and tetrodotoxin), the clinically-relevant drugs work postsynaptically.

Clinically, neuromuscular block is used adjunctively to anesthesia to produce paralysis, so that surgery, especially intra-abdominal and intra-thoracic surgeries, can be conducted with fewer complications. Because the appropriate dose of neuromuscular blocking drug may paralyze muscles required for breathing (i.e. the diaphragm), mechanical ventilation should be available to maintain adequate respiration.

Patients are still aware of pain even after full conduction block has occurred; hence, general anesthetics and/or analgesics must be given to prevent anesthesia awareness.

Quaternary ammonium muscle relaxants are quaternary ammonium salts used as drugs for muscle relaxation, most commonly in anesthesia.


The majority of the potassium chloride produced is used for making fertilizer, since the growth of many plants is limited by their potassium intake. As a chemical feedstock it is used for the manufacture of potassium hydroxide and potassium metal. It is also used in medicine, scientific applications, food processing, and as a sodium-free substitute for table salt (sodium chloride).

Potassium chloride is used as the third of a three-drug combination in lethal injection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection)


The Process
  # The prisoner is bound to a gurney; two needles are inserted into the prisoner's veins and a saline solution is injected.
  # Sodium thiopental, an anesthetic, is injected to put the prisoner to sleep.
  # Pavulon, or pancuronium bromide, is released, inducing paralysis and stopping breathing.
  # Finally, the flow of potassium chloride stops the heart. This chemical can cause excruciating pain if the prisoner is still conscious.
The Potential Problems
  # The prisoner resists and delays establishment of an intravenous line.
  # The execution team is not able to find a suitable vein.
  # The mixture or composition of drugs is wrong.
  # The direction of flow of the injection is wrong.
  # The chemicals are directed into tissue rather than a vein.
  # The prisoner does not react normally to the drugs.

The Results
  # If not rendered unconscious, the inmate will feel excruciating pain; if paralyzed by the pancuronium bromide, the inmate will be unable to show this pain.
  # Some executions have lasted between 20 minutes to over an hour and prisoners have been seen gasping for air, grimacing and convulsing during executions.
  # Autopsies have shown severe, foot long chemical burns to the skin and needles have been found in soft tissue.

CONCERNS:
    Misunderstanding the cruel, inhuman and degrading nature of the death penalty.

    By focusing on a presumed reduction in pain suffered during lethal injection, proponents of this method disregard the suffering inflicted on prisoners throughout the entire death penalty process.
    The involvement of health personnel in executions.

    Virtually all codes of professional ethics which consider the death penalty oppose health professional participation. Despite this, health professionals are required by law in many death penalty states to assist executions and in some cases have carried out the killings.
    The potential for physical suffering

    A number of lethal injections in the USA have been botched and caused visible suffering. In addition, a number of recent court challenges have been based on inherent potential problems with the method, notably that the use of a paralysing agent in the lethal mixture could mask any suffering caused by the execution.
    Not a humane mixture for euthanizing animals.

    Because of the potential for masking pain, the American Veterinary Medical Association has rejected the use of paralyzing agents like pancuronium bromide in animal euthanasia. In states like Tennessee and Texas pancuronium bromide is banned for use on animals; yet it continues to be used on humans.

    Statements of U.S. Health Professional Associations on Participation in Executions

            * American Medical Association: A physician, as a member of a profession dedicated to preserving life when there is hope of doing so, should not be a participant in a legally authorized execution.

            * American Nurses Association: The American Nurses Association (ANA) is strongly opposed to nurse participation in capital punishment. Participation in executions is viewed as contrary to the fundamental goals and ethical traditions of the profession. (Summary, login required to view full statement)
            * American College of Physicians: Participation by physicians in the execution of prisoners except to certify death is unethical.
            * American Public Health Association: The APHA publicly reaffirm its March 1994 collaborative statement to all health professional societies and state licensing and discipline boards that health professional participation in executions or pre-execution procedures is a serious violation of ethical codes and should be grounds for active disciplinary proceedings including expulsion from society membership and license revocation.
            * National Association of Emergency Medical Technicians: The National Association of Emergency Medical Technicians (NAEMT) is strongly opposed to participation in capital punishment by an EMT, Paramedic or other emergency medical professional. Participation in executions is viewed as contrary to the fundamental goals and ethical obligations of emergency medical services.
            * American Society of Anesthesiologists: Although lethal injection mimics certain technical aspects of the practice of anesthesia, capital punishment in any form is not the practice of medicine ... ASA continues to agree with the position of the American Medical Association on physician involvement in capital punishment. ASA strongly discourages participation by anesthesiologists in executions. (emphasis in original)
           * Society of Correctional Physicians: The correctional health professional shall ... Not be involved in any aspect of execution of the death penalty.


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Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on October 06, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
...Many meds are made in Germany,aspirin which is used very often...aspirins were fabricated in Hitlers camps,where doctors made experiments on the prisoners for this medicine.My point is here that news after Michael's death were that he admired Hitler etc etc...this made me think..and wanted to share.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _54623103/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_27_35/ai_54623103/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... enius.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6229315/Michael-Jackson-Hitler-was-a-genius.html)
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: hesouttamylife on October 06, 2010, 05:48:22 PM
we all saw Michael in practice for TII.  IMO, there is no way he could have been using all those drugs and still remain as calm and cognitive as he was.  None.  He was not slurring his words.  He was not missing his ques nor his steps.  He was not unable to hold a thought or concentrate.  He was not uncoordinated.  If anything he was calm and very aware of what was going on with the production.  I just don't believe he was using all these meds.  And to be honest, I don't believe that many of them were even his.  The people entrusted to Michael's care still remain very suspect to me.  Klein for one, often appeared to be more under the influence of some mind altering substance than Michael did.   I don't know, but I have always felt that many of those drugs allegedly prescribed for MJ and found in his home were in fact gotten under false pretenses and Michael being used as the scapegoat.  Even if we look at the log of drugs reportedly found on the scene, you see that many of those very old prescriptions still had pills left over.  If he were so addicted, that would never have been the case.  To me, those bottles were planted there to make it appear that Michael was drug crazed.  It's a sham.  There is no way his family had gone to his house to tidy up and left a bevy of ill gotten drugs for the drug enforcement team to find and blame on Michael.  Just didn't happen.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: PinkTopaz on October 06, 2010, 10:55:49 PM
Hoo, I've been working on this when I get the chance, but I keep having to look up the medical terms! I don't believe he took most of this junk at all..
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: curls on October 07, 2010, 01:47:03 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
......  There is no way his family had gone to his house to tidy up and left a bevy of ill gotten drugs for the drug enforcement team to find and blame on Michael.  Just didn't happen.

Totally agree with you! Unless it was all part of the script!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 07, 2010, 04:10:05 AM
Worth reading Souza.....It is all facts. ;)

I thought MJ didn't ever get to the rehearsals before lunchtime anyhow..He could have slept off the Valium....I take a valium at night, and still get up early with no side-effects....I also take an anti-depressant in the morning..I had all the side effects as described, but it only lasted for the first 4 to 5 wks..

What I'm trying to say is that a persons body does eventually adjust to the side effects of the medication.

But, then again, I don't take the other meds as well..

I would say this list is not a current list, but rather a list of all medications prescribed to Michael over some time for different health issues. Many of the bottles were still quite full.

I doubt he would have ever have taken them all together.....Most doctors would not allow the combination of those certain medications due to their counteractive effects..
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on October 07, 2010, 04:36:56 AM
Wow, great post. Good information.

Just a little story from myself... two weeks ago I had to have surgery. The anaesthetic they gave me was Propofol (indeed looks like milk).
Although I of course have to recover from surgery itself, I still feel tired; although I know the anaesthetic only stays in the system for a few hours, I guess if someone used it frequently, he/she would be dizzy/tired all the time.
..
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 07, 2010, 05:36:13 AM
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
Wow, great post. Good information.

Just a little story from myself... two weeks ago I had to have surgery. The anaesthetic they gave me was Propofol (indeed looks like milk).
Although I of course have to recover from surgery itself, I still feel tired; although I know the anaesthetic only stays in the system for a few hours, I guess if someone used it frequently, he/she would be dizzy/tired all the time.
..

When I had my knee surgery they gave me propofol as well. I woke up very quick and I was clear and energetic immediately, I was also very hungry. I do remember being very tired at night though.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: BeTheChange on October 07, 2010, 11:41:14 AM
Great information Souza!

There has always been many 'versions' of MJ over the years....some media created, some 'fan'/'non-fan' created, some MJ created, etc.  For me, the drug issue since June 25th has, in essence, boiled all those 'versions' of MJ into only two.  (I would not be surprised if, over the years, he did have dependency issues with pain killers or other meds...that's not what I'm addressing here).  The laundry list of meds, including the propofol, that the media (and perhaps MJ himself) would have us believe, paints a very distinct 'version' of MJ.

If we are to believe that he was as addicted, as they claim, then it would probably not be a far stretch to suggest that he had lost all self-control (as many drug addicts do).  Much can be inferred from that alone.  He would not have been able to focus on his work, while in this condition, let alone co-ordinate, manage, produce, and engineer the top selling music documentary of all time....let alone finish the ever so 'top-secret' Dome project (which we have not yet been fully privy to) just two weeks before his 'death'.  It probably wouldn't be a far stretch, either, to say that if true, his drug addiction would have caused a loss of control over his finances as well (money or fame or recogintion would have taken a backseat to the drugs).  And, by extension, a loss over his professional and personal relationships as well (how many times have we heard that MJ surrounded himself with enablers?).  So, not only would he have been a walking zombie incapable of putting in a regular 8-hour shift (or a coherent sentence), let alone a grueling rehearsal schedule, but he would have lost the ability to control his finances...and most importantly, he would have distanced himself from everyone (except those that supported his habit), instead of embarking on an 'adventure' to touch people's lives and hearts (even if it that adventure was simply the This Is It concerts....which we can safely guess is SOOOO much more).

The other 'version' of MJ, if we eliminate the drug rumors (which is what IMO they are)...is a very astute businessman (see Sterchen's list, sorry for misspelling), a very generous humanitarian (see Souza's list), a very kind and gentle father (listen to anything anyone has ever said about him being a father), and a MAN would went about doing extraordinary things while everyone was too stuck on the drug "version" to notice.

But who knows?  I may be wrong and I can say with 100000000% certainty that if the 'drug' version of MJ turns out to be true, then I won't love him any less, but I will definitely come to know "the man I never knew".

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on October 07, 2010, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
Wow, great post. Good information.

Just a little story from myself... two weeks ago I had to have surgery. The anaesthetic they gave me was Propofol (indeed looks like milk).
Although I of course have to recover from surgery itself, I still feel tired; although I know the anaesthetic only stays in the system for a few hours, I guess if someone used it frequently, he/she would be dizzy/tired all the time.
..

When I had my knee surgery they gave me propofol as well. I woke up very quick and I was clear and energetic immediately, I was also very hungry. I do remember being very tired at night though.
Oops, instead of quote i went on "edit"...

I was hungry as well!
I get tired quickly right now, but maybe that´s from surgery itself.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: jacilovesmichael on October 07, 2010, 11:55:17 AM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
......  There is no way his family had gone to his house to tidy up and left a bevy of ill gotten drugs for the drug enforcement team to find and blame on Michael.  Just didn't happen.

Totally agree with you! Unless it was all part of the script!

Unless... they wanted it to be believable that Mike really did die, to make the hoax believable, which would protect Michael if he's in hiding. I know it seems strange, why would they want people to think he was a drug addict if he wasn't? But if his life is truly in danger and he successfully went into hiding, then they would probably do anything and everything to ensure his safety.

Also, if it really was a double or someone else who died that day and that person had a bunch of different drugs in his system, it would make the whole thing more believable that it was MJ if those drugs were found in his home... Who knows, maybe the double was a addicted to prescription drugs. Maybe the double had lots of surgery (and maybe Mike hardly had any like he said) and that's how all the rumors started. I don't know.

Just looking at all possibilities!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Dancer on October 07, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
Maybe this helps, too?
It's from the Ebony magazine from December 2007.

RUMOR: Michael Jackson is hooked on alcohol and painkillers, and required an "intervention" from his family. (People magazine)

FACT: False. In an open letter, Jackson's mother Katherine and brothers Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Jackie, issued the following statement: "We categorically deny ever planning, participating in, or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these 'sources' and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate and untrue claims for monetary reasons."


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... 7769/pg_7/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_2_63/ai_n21147769/pg_7/)


So many people, like Tom Mesereau, said they never witnessed any drug type behaviour. The TII-dancers and others said he was brillant and had so many great ideas. People who numb themselves  by taking prescription drugs usually don't have brillant ideas.
I don't believe he was an addict.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: paula-c on October 07, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Well I read a little faster Souza's post (I'm at work), and my attention all the undesirable effects of these drugs such as diazepam, lorazepam, temazepam, clonazepam, trazadone, tizanidine, which I have appointed over me draw the attention and the final say because, incontinence, urinary retention, suicidal tendencies, amnesic effect, drowsiness, dizziness, fatigue, impaired memory and learning, impaired motor functions, decreased physical performance, muscle weakness, blurred vision, irritability and aggressiveness, impaired coordination, impaired balance, personality changes, behavioral disturbances, loss of short-term memory, confusion, uncontrollable laughter, confusion, migraine, muscle stiffness, slurred speech, and tizanidine should not be used at a time when muscle tone is needed to assure safe balance and movement in certain activities ,........... increase sexual desire. 8-)  :lol:
How the hell Michael planing all this hoax with all those drugs in your body?
How the hell during the filming of the movie dance, skip and jump and I wrote and what we saw in the movie .. :?:
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: trustno1 on October 07, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
I think the rumors of his addiction to drugs were slowly filtered out over the years and MJs camp was mainly responsible for those rumors.  The fact that he didn't sue anyone who printed these stories or ever come out and publicly deny them would be taken by many as a sign that they were true.  Which is what he wanted people to think.  Then when he eventually "dies" of an overdose there will be less surprise as people would be half-expecting it.  I remember after he was cleared in 2005 Randy Taraborrelli said he looked into MJs eyes and said to him he must be so relieved it was over but that MJs eyes were so vacant that he knew he wasn't really "there", that he was essentially so drugged that he wasn't aware of his surroundings.  I reckon Randy being a long-term friend (or at least most of the time he was) he was helping to feed the myth that MJ was an addict even then.  At the famous press conference where Michael denounced Sony and Tommy Mottola there was a lot of talk about his slurred speech and long pauses and spaced-out appearance.  Just another great acting job from Mike I'd wager.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: TheRunningGirl on October 07, 2010, 07:10:34 PM
Biology was never my strongest subject at school, I was much better in Maths!  ;)
So...I looked at the list, totally ignoring what I did not understand and focussing on numbers, here is where I got to:

1. Number of different drugs on Mike's night table
Diazepam
Tamsulosin
Lorazepram
Temazepam
Clonazepam
Trozodone
Tizanidine
Number of drugs on Mike's night table: 7

2. Dosage of Drugs administered:
1:30am ---> Diazepam ---> 10mg
2:00am ---> Lorazepram ---> 2mg
3:00am ---> Midazolam ---> 2mg
5:00am ---> Lorazepram ---> 2mg
7:30am ---> Midazolam ---> 2mg
10:40am--> Propofol ---> 25mg

Total = 43mg ----> Reduces to 7

I was hoping to get more out of the time sequence or drug administered sequence, but nothing conclusive there, still 2 more 7 to add to the list!

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Elsa on October 09, 2010, 10:18:50 AM
Haven't checked into the drugs much myself.  I do remember Brian Oxman pushing the drugs line in his interview 25-06-2009.  He planted the idea on day 1.

The Search Warrant http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10353556/Mi ... rad-Murray (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10353556/Michael-Jackson-Death-Case-Search-Warrant-of-Dr-Conrad-Murray).

p.11 line 24  This shows none of the medications found were labelled with a patient name.  

p.12 line 12 Warrant states that the family and news reports 'have documented' the various aliases used by Doctors when prescribing medication. Since when does a police investigation accept news reports as documenting facts.

p13 line 22 Shows that only one prescription in the name of Omar Arnold was found at the scene. What was it for?  

I think it would be hard to make a case about who owned or was using the drugs found at the house. The death certificate shows Michael Jackson's residence was 4641 Hayvenhurst  Avenue, Encino, not the rented house in Carolwood Drive.  Therefore evidence that the drugs or anything else found belonged to Michael Jackson seems circumstantial.  That the house was not sealed for a few days before the Search Warrant might mean any evidence is unreliable because it could have been planted.

Dr Murray's interview with police paints him as the hero trying to wean his patient off the propofol that had been supplied by others.  If this goes as far as a court case I guess all the details in the Search Warrant, Coroner's Report and autopsy or any other offical documentation will be under the microscope.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: 2 Bad on October 09, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
Thank you Souza. I'm glad we are re-visiting this topic.
I get so irritated with some for going on and on about Michael being an addict. There is just no way that could be fact. I'm sure we are a majority on this as we have taken the time to think outside the box.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 09, 2010, 05:51:55 PM

I was asking if this was an informative post before and I would like to explain why.

Mo and I posted the "dog theory" a year ago. Many people were ridiculing us and a lot of people still try to discredit us by using this theory against us. I know now that the majority of the people clearly never read it, because this IS the "dog theory"... It's part 2, because part 1 was too obvious because the meds were explained in veterinary use. What I want to say with this is that, even if a theory is far fetched (and I am still convinced it's not that far-fetched at all), there can be lots of good and useful information in it. Yet sadly people decide to take someone else's word that it was all BS and ridiculous, without reading it themselves. I wanted to know if this theory was even read before it was bashed, and I have proven my point, since no one recognizes it. The dog theory is nothing more than an explanation of all the medications and it sums up the side effects, the dog is just a small part of the posts and not even present in part 2.

In short: read before you judge.

**note: I am not saying the people who replied in this thread all ridiculed the "dog theory", I am merely pointing out that it is very easy these days to discredit people and distract them by claiming something, hence no one took the effort reading part 2 amd a lot of people skipped part 1 as well because someone said it was all crap. Just food for thought...
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: MissG on October 09, 2010, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

I was asking if this was an informative post before and I would like to explain why.

Mo and I posted the "dog theory" a year ago. Many people were ridiculing us and a lot of people still try to discredit us by using this theory against us. I know now that the majority of the people clearly never read it, because this IS the "dog theory"... It's part 2, because part 1 was too obvious because the meds were explained in veterinary use. What I want to say with this is that, even if a theory is far fetched (and I am still convinced it's not that far-fetched at all), there can be lots of good and useful information in it. Yet sadly people decide to take someone else's word that it was all BS and ridiculous, without reading it themselves. I wanted to know if this theory was even read before it was bashed, and I have proven my point, since no one recognizes it. The dog theory is nothing more than an explanation of all the medications and it sums up the side effects, the dog is just a small part of the posts and not even present in part 2.

In short: read before you judge.

**note: I am not saying the people who replied in this thread all ridiculed the "dog theory", I am merely pointing out that it is very easy these days to discredit people and distract them by claiming something, hence no one took the effort reading part 2 amd a lot of people skipped part 1 as well because someone said it was all crap. Just food for thought...

Did you read my reply to you about the use of drugs during Euthanasia?? I even asked you if you knew what I was meaning  :)
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 09, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "~Souza~"

I was asking if this was an informative post before and I would like to explain why.

Mo and I posted the "dog theory" a year ago. Many people were ridiculing us and a lot of people still try to discredit us by using this theory against us. I know now that the majority of the people clearly never read it, because this IS the "dog theory"... It's part 2, because part 1 was too obvious because the meds were explained in veterinary use. What I want to say with this is that, even if a theory is far fetched (and I am still convinced it's not that far-fetched at all), there can be lots of good and useful information in it. Yet sadly people decide to take someone else's word that it was all BS and ridiculous, without reading it themselves. I wanted to know if this theory was even read before it was bashed, and I have proven my point, since no one recognizes it. The dog theory is nothing more than an explanation of all the medications and it sums up the side effects, the dog is just a small part of the posts and not even present in part 2.

In short: read before you judge.

**note: I am not saying the people who replied in this thread all ridiculed the "dog theory", I am merely pointing out that it is very easy these days to discredit people and distract them by claiming something, hence no one took the effort reading part 2 amd a lot of people skipped part 1 as well because someone said it was all crap. Just food for thought...

Did you read my reply to you about the use of drugs during Euthanasia?? I even asked you if you knew what I was meaning  :)

Yes I did, I read that before so I knew what you meant. I thought I replied, but clearly I didn't. I read a lot at work and I am not always able to answer.

The main reason for this post though was showing that people should read before they ridicule something, and I still think we should all investigate those meds more. We tried with the dog theory last year, but it was bashed to an amount we never expected, so that topic was more about us being morons than about the medication. I am glad the topic is discussed again and your post is a good contribution.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: MissG on October 09, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
The dog theory was not that wrong imo, since the drugs posted fit the drugs used for doggie euthanasia with the exception of one of the drugs.

Also, we have been seeing the word "wrongful death" used as well when talking about euthanasia (lethal injection)

Lately, we have been informed that Messerau is working on the case of a man sentenced with death penalty?

In any case, the doggie theory was more visionary than anything else imo.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: mjj29081958 on October 09, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
Can anyone remind me where did we read that he was addict to any of these medications please? I mean official documents, not tabloid press? Thanks!

Anyway, my grandma's drawer has way more meds than this, and she's not an addict.

The number of drugs one person takes doesn't make them addicts, in fact doesn't tell you anything. If someone has 10 diseases, may need 10 meds in a daily basis and won't be an addict coz he/she takes 10 pills.

If you make the maths: Number of days from prescription to death- Number issued (e.g "x pill")- Number remaining (There are some blogs on that, like AnnieIsOkey) you'll have an idea of how he was taken them.

There were more than one medicament of the same group, let's say BDZ's: what if the first one prescripted wasn't working and the Dr. decided to change it for other? We don't know enough to assume things, IMO.

I often read members saying "I don't think he would take the risk of take drugs, he has kids and he loves them so much" and things along these lines. If I remember well, we have here a member who said she's addict and that she has a little boy. Does it mean that she doesn't love him? No. That's why it's called addiction, you can't control it.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: mjj4ever777 on October 09, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: "BeTheChange"
Great information Souza!

There has always been many 'versions' of MJ over the years....some media created, some 'fan'/'non-fan' created, some MJ created, etc.  For me, the drug issue since June 25th has, in essence, boiled all those 'versions' of MJ into only two.  (I would not be surprised if, over the years, he did have dependency issues with pain killers or other meds...that's not what I'm addressing here).  The laundry list of meds, including the propofol, that the media (and perhaps MJ himself) would have us believe, paints a very distinct 'version' of MJ.

If we are to believe that he was as addicted, as they claim, then it would probably not be a far stretch to suggest that he had lost all self-control (as many drug addicts do).  Much can be inferred from that alone.  He would not have been able to focus on his work, while in this condition, let alone co-ordinate, manage, produce, and engineer the top selling music documentary of all time....let alone finish the ever so 'top-secret' Dome project (which we have not yet been fully privy to) just two weeks before his 'death'.  It probably wouldn't be a far stretch, either, to say that if true, his drug addiction would have caused a loss of control over his finances as well (money or fame or recogintion would have taken a backseat to the drugs).  And, by extension, a loss over his professional and personal relationships as well (how many times have we heard that MJ surrounded himself with enablers?).  So, not only would he have been a walking zombie incapable of putting in a regular 8-hour shift (or a coherent sentence), let alone a grueling rehearsal schedule, but he would have lost the ability to control his finances...and most importantly, he would have distanced himself from everyone (except those that supported his habit), instead of embarking on an 'adventure' to touch people's lives and hearts (even if it that adventure was simply the This Is It concerts....which we can safely guess is SOOOO much more).

The other 'version' of MJ, if we eliminate the drug rumors (which is what IMO they are)...is a very astute businessman (see Sterchen's list, sorry for misspelling), a very generous humanitarian (see Souza's list), a very kind and gentle father (listen to anything anyone has ever said about him being a father), and a MAN would went about doing extraordinary things while everyone was too stuck on the drug "version" to notice.

But who knows?  I may be wrong and I can say with 100000000% certainty that if the 'drug' version of MJ turns out to be true, then I won't love him any less, but I will definitely come to know "the man I never knew".

With L.O.V.E. always.

Bravo my friend...Bravo! Well said, BetheChange...I don't believe the "druggie" story at all. That's all for the "tabloids" I'm sure that Michael is still at the top of his "game."  If Michael was such a druggie, then why weren't  tons of pictures out there in the "rags", showing him strung out? I mean he had the Paps, following his every move right?  No...Michael is an astute, business man, a loving father, brother, son and the greatest Humanitarian, this world will ever know! Michael Jackson's name will go down in history, for bringing Love back to our planet, on top of all his other achievements. He gave so much for us and it is now our turn to show him his messages were not said in vain. We need to unite in love and help others to believe in love, and to help them make a change also!
Thanks again for your post BetheChange!
Blessings and love to all!
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: PinkTopaz on October 09, 2010, 10:18:26 PM
Ah, Souza, ah! I read that blog when you first posted it around this time last year, I thought it was the most interesting theory, but I wasn't registered at any hoax sites yet..! I thought it was plausible and I couldn't believe that people were just blowing it off.. There's been so much information and so little time since then, I haven't read it since, but I was so into all of your blogs then, they were one of the main reasons for my believing in the hoax.
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Blondy on October 13, 2010, 03:09:28 AM
[youtube:2zo0goez]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7STl76BqU[/youtube:2zo0goez]

 :D  :D  :D   ;)
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Elsa on October 13, 2010, 09:24:20 AM
Blondy, although it may have just been natural curiosity it sounds as though he was doing his homework.   ;)
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Blondy on October 13, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
Well,

i think it was an interview .......
Maybe for the radio??

Hug and Love
Blondy :)
Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: paula-c on October 13, 2010, 11:48:44 AM
I think Michael likes German Shepherds...  ;)  :lol:
                                                                 
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Title: Re: A list of Mike's meds, plus the specifications
Post by: Sinderella on October 13, 2010, 12:14:45 PM
So,he was on all those meds mentioned at the start,and on 'painkillers (according to the media( and rehearsing everyday(or not as it happens) for a 50date tour and looking after his kids-dancing with his son in the living room that morning-and still alive and breathing

HAHAHAHAHAAHA.



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That is my professional opinion..Just those two letters..N.O.
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