Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: *Mo* on December 14, 2009, 04:08:26 AM
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown01.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown02.jpg)
Closer view at the crown:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown03.jpg)
JOKU: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku) ;)
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omg great find completley missed that!! :lol: :shock: ;) 8-) someone is waiting for you yay!!! sure is nice clue jemaine!!!!
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what is that .. :?:
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he was ready! he was very well dressed for the ocation! Allways ready Jermaine!
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It seems a bit unlikely that Jermaine would have a crown design on his shirt the very day he announces the King Of Pop is no more. Has anyone seen these close up photos before? Maybe Jermaine changed his shirt to something which would pay tribute to his late brother? On a separate note does anyone know which media outlets were present at the announcement?
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Wow! that is a great find :o
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The same crown? :shock:
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WOW!! I like this definition... "somebody else" (although I do not wish death upon anyone)!
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Seriously! wow! I can't believe it! lol
K.
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But what does it mean?
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OMG!! The beLIEve crown from TII.
(http://noob.hu/2009/12/05/tii.png)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown04.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown05.jpg)
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Hi Mo,
Do you have any ideas on the symbols underneath "JOKU" on the white shirt?
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
yes it looks like jermaine is wearing the white shirt that mj wore at this is it !!!!! or am i going blind lol :o :evil:
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Oh good find. When watching I was wondering what was on his shirt.
Thanks!
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
yes it looks like jermaine is wearing the white shirt that mj wore at this is it !!!!! or am i going blind lol :o :evil:
NO you are NOT blind... Or i'm blind too... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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The White shirt over the Red shirt on MJ does look a bit like the "death" announcement shirt. Could it be or is it just creases/shadows?
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LOOKS LIKE THE JERMAINE AT ANNOUNCEMENT WITHOUT JOKU AND OTHER THINGS IN BLACK... :?
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In principle joku refers to a person and jokin refers to things. Especially in speech, the two words keep getting confused in such a manner that in each case the shorter and simpler word replaces the more "difficult" word. For example joinakuina becomes joinakin, and jokin becomes joku.
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:o so is this meaning the king of pop is dead but michael jackson the man is very much alive :D
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Like I said, Jermaine is my favorite when it comes to giving away clues.
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:o great find ! You are so clever in here , just what I needed on a black day :)
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
"Mission" is the trademark :D http://www.tattooapparel.com/c=UwCDvUlS ... __XXL.html (http://www.tattooapparel.com/c=UwCDvUlSYpkolAQnuUDoSygyb/product/B150/Mission_Clothing_Red_Lion_Design_Button_Front_Shirt_Small__XXL.html)
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
I MEAN THAT THE WHITE SHIRT IT'S TOO SIMMILAR TO THE JERMAINE SHIRT
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I've seen that design somewhere before.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown04.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown05.jpg)
Great catch Mo on Jermaine's shirt. I also noticed that MJ's shirt was altered a bit from the original. There are three 7s on the left side. So this could mean that he is on a spiritual mission.
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:shock: :shock: :shock:
OHHHH MY GOD ..
this is a great find ,
coincidence ?
LOL . too many coincidences here ..
i believe its the part of the BIG SHIP too ..
great find ..
7 thumbs up :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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WOAH!!! Good one Mo!!!! ***high fives***
Sweeeeet!! It does look like Mj's white shirt and Jerkmaines white shirt are the same one!!! WOOOT!!
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If that crown wouldn't be in TII credits, I would just think that Jacksons loved that brand/style or something, but its deff not just that :}
K.
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To piggy back on what I posted earlier, you can click on the following link for spiritual meanings and symbolism in the number 777. Some might really resonate with you in connection to Michael's mission.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php (http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php)
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Hi guys! It does looks like Jermaine is wearing michael's white shirt.
I wish there was a photo with michael before he takes the white shirt off.
Can somebody tell me if it is a fact that the crown with the 'beLIEve' thing really appeared at the credits or is it just a rumour?
Cause if the believe thing really happened then...OMG...he really is sending us messages.
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excellent find!!!!!!!
does michael have the white shirt on
inside out?????? seems to me he does..
that would be why you cant see the rest of
the designs like on jermaines.. but why would
he wear it inside out???????????? would have to be
on purpose, i am sure he wouldnt wear a shirt inside
out and not know it............
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okay, i am really reading way too much into
things...lol.... i googled wearing shirt inside out,
and i noticed lyrics to a pink floyd song came up,
wearing the inside out...
heres the link to the lyrics, kinda odd i must say.
i think i have gone over the edge now..llloooollll......
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/2904/ (http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/2904/)
????????????????????????????????????
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown01.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown02.jpg)
Closer view at the crown:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown03.jpg)
JOKU: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku) ;)
He had on this shirt on the show last night and I was thinkin y would he wear that again..
Tito had on polo and ae the whole time and marlon and this fbi hat..I'm still tryn 2 figure that out
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Jermaine sure does make some intestering clothing choices.
Anyone remember Punks Not Dead from LKL?
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Those crowns seem to be everywhere. maybe it´s really some kind of clue, like ...like they are leading the way to something?!
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The back of Jermaine's shirt:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown06.jpg)
But this is not same as the one shirt Mike is wearing over the red shirt. Mike's has a golden print on the right front/side, while Jermaine's is plain in that area:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown08.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown07.jpg)
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the golden print is on the inside of the shirt... you cannot see the inside at jermaine's
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@Mo, on the shirt MJ is wearing, where you put that green circle on, it looks like a lion again, doesn´t it? Like the one on the red shirt..
Hm, a lion is referred to being a "king" as well.
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WOW !!!! what a great find.. :o :o
its a wonder it hasnt been noticed before...
maybe this means jermaine was in the hoax from the start...
or...
it was just a verrrryyy big coincidence.... :D :D
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@Mo, on the shirt MJ is wearing, where you put that green circle on, it looks like a lion again, doesn´t it? Like the one on the red shirt..
Hm, a lion is referred to being a "king" as well.
Correct Eve!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/lion.jpg)
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Lion is the KING of the jungle
Michael had been crowned to a higher level.
it is all part of the movie TII... they are getting us ready for BAMSDAY
Look at this and tell me what you see read and FEEL. (first feeling count the most)
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/Oetoort (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/Oetoort)
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You are nice folks giving me such a laugh tonight....
You are really making my day!!
jokus - the Joker - the clown -
synonyms are:
prank, practical jokes, fun, silliness, puns, teasing, stupid, fun, antics, buffoonery, nonsense, sarcasm, wisecrack, gag, joke,
One of the favorite roles of a jokester or court jester would be to tell the truth but only hidden in funny stories that would not hurt directly. The jokester was in former times the only one to be able to tell the truth to a king, court and reigning monarch without being killed immediately. Being a jokester was a court job in former times that was very important in both directions - nobody would dare to tell the truth to the king and the king would not hear any truth but by the jokester.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester)
Again we have a link to the joker card, Joker at batman, joker "clue" by JCC.
One of the famous joker figurines in Europe was Till Eulenspiegel, known with the symbols of an owl for wisdom and a mirror for telling the truth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegel)
Till Eulenspiegel would only look like a jokester. He was outsmarting most other people and have much insight into people and reality. He would point out a real status of the world and misfits of the persons around him by using sayings and picturings thus mirroring truth.
Did I say, I love you, Mo and Souza?
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You are nice folks giving me such a laugh tonight....
You are really making my day!!
jokus - the Joker - the clown -
synonyms are:
prank, practical jokes, fun, silliness, puns, teasing, stupid, fun, antics, buffoonery, nonsense, sarcasm, wisecrack, gag, joke,
One of the favorite roles of a jokester or court jester would be to tell the truth but only hidden in funny stories that would not hurt directly. The jokester was in former times the only one to be able to tell the truth to a king, court and reigning monarch without being killed immediately. Being a jokester was a court job in former times that was very important in both directions - nobody would dare to tell the truth to the king and the king would not hear any truth but by the jokester.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester)
Again we have a link to the joker card, Joker at batman, joker "clue" by JCC.
One of the famous joker figurines in Europe was Till Eulenspiegel, known with the symbols of an owl for wisdom and a mirror for telling the truth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegel)
Till Eulenspiegel would only look like a jokester. He was outsmarting most other people and have much insight into people and reality. He would point out a real status of the world and misfits of the persons around him by using sayings and picturings thus mirroring truth.
Did I say, I love you, Mo and Souza?
This is an interesting post. Just...are you referring to the shirt, the crown or the lion??
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@grace :shock: :o
so, this is a big clue from the beggining? :?
we are talking about the announcement!
this is too much for me... ;)
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Oh, did you find the pants too? Those wide ones with the bulldog and the crown on it?
They were sooooo strange....
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Oh, did you find the pants too? Those wide ones with the bulldog and the crown on it?
They were sooooo strange....
the thriller pants? i love those! :D
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OMG,, i just thought of this...
THE LION,THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE............
has any of you watched the movie or read the books?
i used to have all the books when i was a kid....
could michael be symbolizing to ASLAN the king lion
of NARNIA? here is link.....
please read and tell me what you think......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion,_ ... e_Wardrobe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion,_the_Witch_and_the_Wardrobe)
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:o so is this meaning the king of pop is dead but michael jackson the man is very much alive :D
EXACTLY!!!
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also the lion of judah....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah)
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If we read the story of Aslan right, there's more to it in wiki:
[Aslan, a lion, is the true ruler of Narnia. He sacrifices himself to spare Edmund, but is resurrected in time to aid the citizens of Narnia and the Pevensie children in their battle against the White Witch and her minions.]
[The other children reach Aslan, and a penitent Edmund is rescued just as the witch is about to kill him. Calling for a truce, the witch demands that Edmund be returned to her, as an ancient law (the "Deep magic") gives her possession of all traitors. Aslan offers himself in Edmund's place, and the witch accepts. Aslan is sacrificed by the witch, but comes back to life through "Deeper magic": when one who is blameless willingly dies on behalf of the guilty, he may return to life.
In a final battle, the witch is defeated and killed by Aslan. The children become kings and queens, and spend 15 years reigning in Narnia. They grow to maturity before returning to our world, where they find themselves children again. They hear Mrs Macready still talking to the visitors in the passageway; their years in Narnia have taken no more than a few minutes of time on this side of the door.]
I don't want to read too much into it.
BUT Michael asked us to look with our hearts of children and he knew that only those understanding his hints would be his best friends.
The tale says that Aslan returns because someone else willingly died on behalf of him.
Remember the bloody shirt in the wardrobe with the 3,99 $ tag?
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OMG what a great find! Got me shivers all over my spine!!!
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yes Arslan didnt die because he did it for LOVE
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If we read the story of Aslan right, there's more to it in wiki:
[Aslan, a lion, is the true ruler of Narnia. He sacrifices himself to spare Edmund, but is resurrected in time to aid the citizens of Narnia and the Pevensie children in their battle against the White Witch and her minions.]
[The other children reach Aslan, and a penitent Edmund is rescued just as the witch is about to kill him. Calling for a truce, the witch demands that Edmund be returned to her, as an ancient law (the "Deep magic") gives her possession of all traitors. Aslan offers himself in Edmund's place, and the witch accepts. Aslan is sacrificed by the witch, but comes back to life through "Deeper magic": when one who is blameless willingly dies on behalf of the guilty, he may return to life.
In a final battle, the witch is defeated and killed by Aslan. The children become kings and queens, and spend 15 years reigning in Narnia. They grow to maturity before returning to our world, where they find themselves children again. They hear Mrs Macready still talking to the visitors in the passageway; their years in Narnia have taken no more than a few minutes of time on this side of the door.]
I don't want to read too much into it.
BUT Michael asked us to look with our hearts of children and he knew that only those understanding his hints would be his best friends.
The tale says that Aslan returns because someone else willingly died on behalf of him.
Remember the bloody shirt in the wardrobe with the 3,99 $ tag?
This is off topic, but I just have to mention this. WHY did they hang that shirt back up in the closet? I found that to be so strange.
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MAYBE TO TELL US THE DATE OF THE FUNERAL 3.9.9 :?:
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If we read the story of Aslan right, there's more to it in wiki:
[Aslan, a lion, is the true ruler of Narnia. He sacrifices himself to spare Edmund, but is resurrected in time to aid the citizens of Narnia and the Pevensie children in their battle against the White Witch and her minions.]
[The other children reach Aslan, and a penitent Edmund is rescued just as the witch is about to kill him. Calling for a truce, the witch demands that Edmund be returned to her, as an ancient law (the "Deep magic") gives her possession of all traitors. Aslan offers himself in Edmund's place, and the witch accepts. Aslan is sacrificed by the witch, but comes back to life through "Deeper magic": when one who is blameless willingly dies on behalf of the guilty, he may return to life.
In a final battle, the witch is defeated and killed by Aslan. The children become kings and queens, and spend 15 years reigning in Narnia. They grow to maturity before returning to our world, where they find themselves children again. They hear Mrs Macready still talking to the visitors in the passageway; their years in Narnia have taken no more than a few minutes of time on this side of the door.]
I don't want to read too much into it.
BUT Michael asked us to look with our hearts of children and he knew that only those understanding his hints would be his best friends.
The tale says that Aslan returns because someone else willingly died on behalf of him.
Remember the bloody shirt in the wardrobe with the 3,99 $ tag?
thank you......
i also interpret this as the lion,michael.
the witch,the media or bad people. or
could be the symbolism of the witch painting
he purchased.
the wardrobe,the 3.99 shirt? or pay attention
to his and others "wardrobes".....
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It looks like that very same crown appears on clothing of the 2008 collection of Christian Audigier's brand Paco Chicano:
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/IT05-IT06_E9CHFDKP_BLK-2.jpg&w=282&h=387)
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM30_E9CFJHKI_BLK-3.jpg&w=282&h=387)
Back of shirt:
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM30_E9CFJHKI_BLK-2.jpg&w=282&h=387)
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM03_E9CBJHRP_BLK-3.jpg&w=282&h=387)
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Also off topic - I am just smiling - are the Cinnamon-Ricotta Cheese Donuts ordered by the family for the "after-party" - remember? What an idea - we were discussing that before...
Cinnamon (Cinnamomum verum, synonym C. zeylanicum) is a small evergreen tree belonging to the family Lauraceae.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon)
Bay Laurel is the source of the bay leaves which are used for their flavour in cooking. It was also the source of the laurel wreath of ancient Greece, and therefore the expression of "resting on one's laurels". A wreath of bay laurels was given as the prize at the Pythian Games because the games were in honor of Apollo and the laurel was one of his symbols ever since his unsuccessful pursuit of Daphne. In the Bible, the sweet-bay is often an emblem of prosperity and fame. In Christianity it is said to symbolize the Resurrection of Christ and the triumph of Humanity thereby. It is also the source of the word baccalaureate (laurel berry), and of poet laureate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurus_nobilis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurus_nobilis)
Ricotta cheese is no real cheese as it is made from whey and not from milk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricotta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricotta)
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thank you......
i also interpret this as the lion,michael.
the witch,the media or bad people. or
could be the symbolism of the witch painting
he purchased.
the wardrobe,the 3.99 shirt? or pay attention
to his and others "wardrobes".....
Yes, the wardrobe the Propofol was found in...
(would need a fridge in reality, not a wardrobe, but all this medication stuff was already so ridiculous)
LOL Today I can laugh about it...
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown01.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown02.jpg)
Closer view at the crown:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown03.jpg)
JOKU: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joku) ;)
Greeeaaat find!!! And by the way: Where are your tears, Jermaine? ;)
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connections connections...
Anschutz owns or has major interests in about 100 companies, including the following:
* Anschutz Entertainment Group, which has stakes in two U.S. soccer teams, including the MLS's Los Angeles Galaxy and Houston Dynamo; the NHL's Los Angeles Kings; the AHL's Manchester Monarchs; the ECHL's Reading Royals; the NBA's Los Angeles Lakers; Staples Center; Home Depot Center; Major League Lacrosse LA Riptide; the Swedish soccer team Hammarby IF, Swedish hockey team Djurgårdens IF; the German ice hockey teams Hamburg Freezers and Eisbären Berlin; and the Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles. In the UK they own the Manchester Evening News Arena, the London Arena, and the Millennium Dome which has been redeveloped as a multi-purpose arena under the name "The O2".
* Anschutz Film Group (reorganized Crusader Entertainment now known as Bristol Bay Productions and Walden Media). Involved in the production of the movie Atlas Shrugged, and previously involved in the production of the movie Holes in 2003 and the commercially successful The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe in 2005
Read more: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:yH ... z0cWZCvaPF (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:yHcWhaAwfqAJ:u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2009/08/michael-jackson-killed-by-oligarch.html+mj+the+lies+the+switch+and+the+wardrobe&cd=7&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=be#ixzz0cWZCvaPF)
and maybe some of you have heard of a British man who not so long ago faked his death?
apparently he at some point was hiding in his own house in his wardrobe
look what the press called the story:
the lie, the switch and the wardrobe google it ;)
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really great find love to see those things 8-)
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the last book in the narnia series is THE LAST BATTLE...............
holy moly,this is really getting to me now..................
heres link read THE COMMENTARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is michael going to help lead us through the LAST BATTLE????????
this is no coincidence....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Battle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Battle)
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@ mjhunny.... WOW great find, brilliant find actually, you are one helluva investigator :D
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Just to add something here...
Aslan is a Christ-like figure, in that he sacrificed himself, and later rose from the dead.
This symbolism was intentional - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is a moral tale. Aslan is the ruler of Narnia, and ultimately defeats the Ice Queen, the enemy, in order that the four children can be crowned Kings and Queens of Narnia.
The lion is also king of beasts, of course!
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here is a link for ASLAN himself..
something very interesting to note
i think, is that he is a singer i.e.
his singing is what brings things into
existence..............
i also found the Christan interpretation
of him interesting....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslan)
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Maybe these lions and the crown could also be referring to the Wizard of Oz. The lion (king of the forest),he needs courage. The lion is a very soft poken character, just like Michael was a soft spoken person. Maybe the person that was directing us to the thisisalsoit.com site was referring to Michaels apparel choice. IDK, I know what I am saying, I just cant type it out right. Maybe Michaels choices in these shirts was just his way of showing he was building up his courage to fake his death. Anyone with me on this. If not, I will think about what I am saying more and edit my post when things are clearer for me.
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Great finds, guys.
You know I always wondered why Michael was the only one not dressed in costume during the Thriller scene. All the other dancers had gone through full makeup and costume. Why not Michael? Seems like a lot of time wasted, if it wasn't dress rehearsal. Unless it was a clue.
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So...Michael's red shirt has the word "Mission" on it, Jermaine's lavender shirt from the reality series had the word "Royality" on it, and the lion and crown theme are seen throughout...
Hmmm...
Could it be that the "royal family" (Jackson Dynasty) have, and are on, a mission?
;)
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Great find !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Have you seen what they say on Tattoo apparel's website :
"Here we feature a video that we shot at the Mission Design Studio of the Mission Lion shirt. The Mission Lion shirt was worn by Michael Jackson in the This is It Movie. The King of Pop is wearing the Red Mission Lion Shirt in parts of the Trailer, the Movie and in several photos inside the booklet that comes with the music CD. We have carried Mission Clothing for many years and are their preferred, recommended online retailer. We think Michael and his stylist probably chose this shirt because Michael loved the color Red, loved stage clothes that fit well and for the large Silvery Gold letter M on the shirt. The M actually stands for Mission Clothing but it could certainly appear to also stand for Michael in this case. The shirt does have some rhinestone detailing but Michael's stylists may have added additional rhinestones for wearing the shirt onstage under bright lights. Scroll farther down the page to see Michael wearing the shirt in several videos including the movie trailer."
SOURCE :
http://www.tattooapparel.com/category/s ... _it_movie/ (http://www.tattooapparel.com/category/shirt_seen_in_this_is_it_movie/)
So maybe Jermaine is wearing the same white shirt but Michael's stylists take off the golden prints for him? Same thing for the 777?
We don't see the 777 on this picture (I guess he kept the original one) :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/IMG_95236.png)
I'm a lil out of the subject but what do you read on this blue shirt? And.. is it blood on his wrist? :shock: :oops:
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/IMG_95237.png)
Original size : http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/ao51yf.jpg
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There is something else I notice. On the close up of the white shirt that Jermaine is wearing, there seems to be a picture of MJ off to the left. Faded, but still evident. Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, it sure does look like him.
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I just keep thinking about Bahrain and Ireland! :) MJ may be in one of those places.
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
777
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WOW :shock: This is tooo much for me, I have to think this over when I calmed down again!
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The back of Jermaine's shirt:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown06.jpg)
But this is not same as the one shirt Mike is wearing over the red shirt. Mike's has a golden print on the right front/side, while Jermaine's is plain in that area:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown08.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown07.jpg)
Nice findings about these shirts they are wearing. Hoewever, did anyone notice the ear pieces hanging around his neck. It seems he's in the middle of a song whil rehearsing. Why are his earpieces not in the place where they are meant to be?
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
Also I think I see three 7 7 7 down the left hand side of the shirt also its very glittery but it looks like it to me. I havent seen these photos before "dont know where I have been?" always a bit slow! me! :roll:
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:o so is this meaning the king of pop is dead but michael jackson the man is very much alive :D
This is how I see it. I don't believe MJ will come back as performing when he does come back. He's in the background remaking his image. I sense that he will be comeback as a director/producer. He did it before with the Ghosts/Man in the Mirror and other projects. MJ was ahead of his time. I truly believe that is why he spend all of those years working hard on stage and doing top performances. Everyone that ever went to his concerts got their money worth and then some. He will have royalties from his music forever and his other business ventures while he's gone and transition into film when he comes back. Keep the Faith! :D
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also the lion of judah....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah)
Here's the product of my convoluted thinking:
Lion of Judah -> Rastafari -> Marcus Garvey -> Liberia -> Liberian Girl
God, I need to sleep more, or something! :lol:
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So...Michael's red shirt has the word "Mission" on it, Jermaine's lavender shirt from the reality series had the word "Royality" on it, and the lion and crown theme are seen throughout...
Hmmm...
Could it be that the "royal family" (Jackson Dynasty) have, and are on, a mission?
;)
dont forget titos grandson is named royalty and then we have jermajesty
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It looks like that very same crown appears on clothing of the 2008 collection of Christian Audigier's brand Paco Chicano:
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/IT05-IT06_E9CHFDKP_BLK-2.jpg&w=282&h=387)
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM30_E9CFJHKI_BLK-3.jpg&w=282&h=387)
Back of shirt:
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM30_E9CFJHKI_BLK-2.jpg&w=282&h=387)
(http://pacochicano.com/modules/thumb/thumb.php?img=/cms/productoptionsimg/PM03_E9CBJHRP_BLK-3.jpg&w=282&h=387)
The last picture of the shirt looks like the memorial heart that is on Heal The World Foundation website. Intersting they would be similar
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also the lion of judah....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah)
Here's the product of my convoluted thinking:
Lion of Judah -> Rastafari -> Marcus Garvey -> Liberia -> Liberian Girl
God, I need to sleep more, or something! :lol:
WOW i just posted it on my new Hyves... Lion of Judas..i thought about it also !!
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SOURCE :
http://www.tattooapparel.com/category/s ... _it_movie/ (http://www.tattooapparel.com/category/shirt_seen_in_this_is_it_movie/)
So maybe Jermaine is wearing the same white shirt but Michael's stylists take off the golden prints for him? Same thing for the 777?
We don't see the 777 on this picture (I guess he kept the original one) :
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/IMG_95236.png)
I'm a lil out of the subject but what do you read on this blue shirt? And.. is it blood on his wrist? :shock: :oops:
(http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/IMG_95237.png)
Original size : http://img1.imagilive.com/1209/ao51yf.jpg[/quote]
Yep it is blood he has on his wrist.... Damn it why didn't i showed up with a bandage... Hang on Michael.. The next time you hurt your self i'll ripp a hospital for bandages :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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what really mean a shirt over another :?: :roll:
the white over the red, the blue over the red... :?
and i found it's not the same white as jermaine... ;)
if this is the white what is wearing in the oyher picturem but also I'm not shure...
:roll:
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It seems to me that a pattern of crowns, lions (king of the jungle), royalty and mission keep reappearing in the attire theme. Plus, if you add "Bahrain" and "Ireland" to those places it makes for a very interesting mix. Don't both places have royalty besides a functioning government? What is the mission of modern day royalty? Hmmm. Does anyone know? Perhaps that could be a clue?!?!?!? In any case, I think we are all on to something big. I love the Narnia reference-----that was a super movie and it fits here! Could any of this indicate that MJ is being crowned in some regard other than "king of pop"?
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It seems to me that a pattern of crowns, lions (king of the jungle), royalty and mission keep reappearing in the attire theme. Plus, if you add "Bahrain" and "Ireland" to those places it makes for a very interesting mix. Don't both places have royalty besides a functioning government? What is the mission of modern day royalty? Hmmm. Does anyone know? Perhaps that could be a clue?!?!?!? In any case, I think we are all on to something big. I love the Narnia reference-----that was a super movie and it fits here! Could any of this indicate that MJ is being crowned in some regard other than "king of pop"?
Ireland doesn't have a royal family...
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Yep it is blood he has on his wrist.... Damn it why didn't i showed up with a bandage... Hang on Michael.. The next time you hurt your self i'll ripp a hospital for bandages :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hmmm wait, are you making fun of what I said or....? :roll:
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okay, i am really reading way too much into
things...lol.... i googled wearing shirt inside out,
and i noticed lyrics to a pink floyd song came up,
wearing the inside out...
heres the link to the lyrics, kinda odd i must say.
i think i have gone over the edge now..llloooollll......
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/2904/ (http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/2904/)
????????????????????????????????????
Wow, those lryics go so well with Michael! He could have written that about himself!!
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Wooooow interesting! :shock:
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when was thing song releised? Anyone knows?
Michael did wrote songs for others as well.
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it is very strange ...
I just noticed "777" on his T-shirt
number 7 was important for him
it is very strange that he has signed his will on 07/07/02
and his memorial was made 07/07/09
7 years later :shock:
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If we want we can go on like that and find clues everywhere, but it will not help us. What I have to post right now is NOT a clue. I just want to point out how easy everything can be mislead to be a clue...
So here we go. As I was reading here about the lion theory. I realized that this might be interesting (I want to underline that I do NOT see this as A CLUE). Lets take a closer look to the lions.
L.I.O.N.S. is a club which was founded in 1917, and the first organizational meeting was held on June 7 (the 7 ;) ) 1917. This organization helps people with their problems they collect money and donate it for different projects at schools, for poor people, for youth center, or for women who were treated very bad (for these womens places are build where they can go to). So to to summarize it this club was foundet for every pearson who wanted to help. This was the idea. Nowadays you can be a member in this club when you are wealthy, has good conections, when you are invited from a presindent and so on and so on. This club is humanitarian and it helps people/organizations with very different problems (so like Michael does ;) ).
LIONS means (Liberty, Intelligence, Our Nation's Safety )
Source: http://www.lionsusa.com/aboutlions.htm.. (http://www.lionsusa.com/aboutlions.htm..). this fits perfect to Illuminati and New World Order :evil: :twisted: :o :evil:
For more iformation look here: http://www.lionsusa.com/history.htm (http://www.lionsusa.com/history.htm)
Very interesting, isn´t it????
BUT what I want to illustrate is that we can find clues everywhere even if this is not a clue!! And I underline again this is NOT A CLUE. People wake up, there are not clues everywhere!!!!!!
I think that Michaels death is odd and there are alot of questions, YES, YES and I believe that he has faked it!!! But it doesn´t help us if we look too deep into everything. We will clearly end up in a psychiatry when we go on like this because that there are clues everywhere is not realistic to my point of view.
I think sometimes that everything has been questioned what could be questioned and we have to wait and see right now for new information, but strog one.
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Just letting all you wonderful investigators know that all this has already been pointed out in other posts.................2good2btrue (that's me) has been studying all the symbols and clothing for a long time and just thought you should know that. There are many of my posts out there suggesting all the clothing worn are all clues. There has been alot written about the biblical meanings of the no. 7 .
If you look under symbols and their meanings, then you will be quite surprised like I was, by then I posted an article about MJ and Ed Hardy and their connection. He supplies all their clothing. MJ and the kids are frequently seen shopping and wearing ED HARDY clothing and so are all the family. Mj also loved Mission clothing and asked them to add a few extra sequences for the TII. Alot of it is tattoo apparel. The family has been seen wearing this type of clothing for a long time......could be clues but just as well could not.
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2good2btrue, I'm not up on fashion all I really know about it is what color of men's ties are in each season. Can you tell me what tattoo clothing is? :?
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I hope these links help....MJ had a close relationship with the supplier of his clothes:
http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2 ... l-jackson/ (http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2009/08/21/ed-hardy-designer-on-his-clothing-line-dedicated-to-michael-jackson/)
http://www.ed-hardy.cc/ed-hardy-clothing.html (http://www.ed-hardy.cc/ed-hardy-clothing.html)
The whole family have been wearing Ed Hardy clothing. Even in the TV series. The children are always seen wearing Ed Hardy clothing.
But this still rises more suspicion...............LOOK AT THE LATEST TMZ ARTICLE.
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This is an interview with ED HARDY about MJ and his kids:
http://www.eonline.com/videos/v44551_au ... ckson.html (http://www.eonline.com/videos/v44551_audigier-opens-up-about-michael-jackson.html)
http://www.eonline.com/videos/v44551_au ... ckson.html (http://www.eonline.com/videos/v44551_audigier-opens-up-about-michael-jackson.html)
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Michael Jackson is sooooooooo Aliveeeeeeeeeee the proof is in the pudding way to go Jermaine. :) :D :lol:
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...thanks for the close-up. It attracted me, but I failed to follow-up. How cool is that ?
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
yes it looks like jermaine is wearing the white shirt that mj wore at this is it !!!!! or am i going blind lol :o :evil:
nope, it is the same exact shirt, like he got it from michael. either they went shopping together (which i doubt) or jermaine is wearing michael's shirt here. someone on youtube did a thorough comparison on this already, it's really the same shirt.
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Well I think that's a crown on Jermaine's shirt. The crown has always been a symbol that constantly shows up since June 25th. The crown is also a part of the Jacksons logo. They have five crowns on their logo. Also people keep making reference to MJ and the number 7. Well I noticed in the opening of the Jackson reality show Jackie also is wearing a shirt that has 7's on it. I'm like what's with the 7's. Jermaine always wear those shirts with prints on them too. That shirt also looks like a shirt that he wore on the show as well. If you watch every episode of the Jackson family dynasty you can just look at they're outfits and tell things were filmed out of sequence. Like them wearing the same outfits before and after MJ's death but there supposedly was footage shot way before June 25th. Then why are they wearing the same outfits after he died? It makes you think everything was staged.
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Coming back to JOKU; why to use a finnish word? Some connection with Finland?
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The back of Jermaine's shirt:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown06.jpg)
But this is not same as the one shirt Mike is wearing over the red shirt. Mike's has a golden print on the right front/side, while Jermaine's is plain in that area:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown08.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/crown07.jpg)
Nice findings about these shirts they are wearing. Hoewever, did anyone notice the ear pieces hanging around his neck. It seems he's in the middle of a song whil rehearsing. Why are his earpieces not in the place where they are meant to be?
he said in the movie that he had difficulties with the in-ear-monitors. he said something like 'it feels like i'm having a fist in my ear' and takes them out to hear the stage sound. old school...
oh, and someone found out that the print on the left of michael's shirt is inside, so it is not seen on the outside of jermaine's shirt. it is the same one!
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mj always wore "plain" clothes for many years until recently with the ed hardy designs. I had posted a long time ago that mj and christian audigier were collaborating on a clothing line (link below). so makes sense why some of the family is seen in the clothes...once again what better way to appeal to the masses than to send his message out to everyone through the most popular clothing line. clever businessman mj is...
http://la.racked.com/archives/2009/08/17/first_look_michael_jacksons_christian_audigier_collab.php
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mj always wore "plain" clothes for many years until recently with the ed hardy designs. I had posted a long time ago that mj and christian audigier were collaborating on a clothing line (link below). so makes sense why some of the family is seen in the clothes...once again what better way to appeal to the masses than to send his message out to everyone through the most popular clothing line. clever businessman mj is...
http://la.racked.com/archives/2009/08/17/first_look_michael_jacksons_christian_audigier_collab.php
Yeah I think MJ should have came out with a jacket line a long time ago. He was the man when it came to jackets. No one has jackets like MJ. Now I see artist trying to copy his jackets that he wore in This is it with the pointy shoulders. He always was a style icon on stage. Off stage I think he just wanted to be comfortable and chill. He liked his PJ's.
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yeah i swear everyonce wearing the pointy shoulder now all cos of mj his style is everywhere i love how they are doin it now and didnt copy his style before :x
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mj always wore "plain" clothes for many years until recently with the ed hardy designs. I had posted a long time ago that mj and christian audigier were collaborating on a clothing line (link below). so makes sense why some of the family is seen in the clothes...once again what better way to appeal to the masses than to send his message out to everyone through the most popular clothing line. clever businessman mj is...
http://la.racked.com/archives/2009/08/17/first_look_michael_jacksons_christian_audigier_collab.php
Yeah I think MJ should have came out with a jacket line a long time ago. He was the man when it came to jackets. No one has jackets like MJ. Now I see artist trying to copy his jackets that he wore in This is it with the pointy shoulders. He always was a style icon on stage. Off stage I think he just wanted to be comfortable and chill. He liked his PJ's.
totally agreed. his jackets are 'baddd'! ;) i always thought that, he absolutely rocks the rock style! just plain cool...
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I posted this on my twitter (evapolly), MJalive and MJHD.net in hopes someone would be as intrigued by it as I am :D :D
Only a few were... :D ...maybe you will be one of them.
First of all, the print on Jermaine's shirt does not say "JOKU", it says "TOKU". It's a brand of clothes and after quite a bit of searching I found it. It looks like any other shirt only with a very interesting print at the BACK.
Jermaine at the press conference:
(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Michael+Jackson+Dies+Los+Angeles+dUo7y8wqg3Zl.jpg)
This is the shirt:
http://www.flyclothing.com/Toku-Clothing-Pop-Crown-Shirt.html
Front:
(http://www.flyclothing.com/images/D/toku-021-01-01.jpg)
Back - LIVING AS KING - :D
(http://www.flyclothing.com/images/D/toku-024-01-01.jpg)
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ho nice find! ;) ;) ;)
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wow, thanks for your comment, I was beginning to feel like an idiot :D
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Ok,now what does a crown on Jermaine's shirt has to do with Michael?And what is the clue supposed to be?His brother wearing a crown on his shirt is not evidence enough to say Michael is alive,you all have to come harder than this.
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Umm... the writing on the back says "LIVING AS KING"
That was kind of my point... ;)
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Ok,now what does a crown on Jermaine's shirt has to do with Michael?And what is the clue supposed to be?His brother wearing a crown on his shirt is not evidence enough to say Michael is alive,you all have to come harder than this.
i'm still saying that it is the same shirt michael wore, if not michael's shirt in the first place. so michael handed his shirt down to jermaine or they have the same one. the question here would be then: why is jermaine wearing either michael's shirt or the same shirt michael had on when rehearsing. regarding the tinyness of some clues, i think it has some meaning to it that jermaine is wearing that exact shirt on that day. like he said: '...my brother, the legendary king of pop...' not '...my brother michael...'. nothing is just a 'coincidence' in this...! :mrgreen:
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(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6651/namnlsk.jpg)
found this in TII
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5028/namnl1.jpg)
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Ok,now what does a crown on Jermaine's shirt has to do with Michael?And what is the clue supposed to be?His brother wearing a crown on his shirt is not evidence enough to say Michael is alive,you all have to come harder than this.
i'm still saying that it is the same shirt michael wore, if not michael's shirt in the first place. so michael handed his shirt down to jermaine or they have the same one. the question here would be then: why is jermaine wearing either michael's shirt or the same shirt michael had on when rehearsing. regarding the tinyness of some clues, i think it has some meaning to it that jermaine is wearing that exact shirt on that day. like he said: '...my brother, the legendary king of pop...' not '...my brother michael...'. nothing is just a 'coincidence' in this...! :mrgreen:
Jermaine is much bigger than MJ,so why would Michael hand down a shirt to Jermaine?Have you thought that shirts with crowns on them are not made only for Michael Jackson?I see alot of people walking around in those exspensive shirts and I can tell you they have no connection to Michael or his death.Jermaine wears an band on his arm too,does that mean Michael faked his death?The Jackson family Dynasty logo consists of crowns,maybe they are trying to keep the crowns in the family,they certainly think they 're Royalty.Check out the names of some realtives Prince Michael,Royal,and Jermajesty.... I'm just saying you can't use everything as a clue,peace.
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I posted this because of the writing not the crown. The writing on the back of the shirt says: LIVING AS KING
I give up .... :roll:
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I posted this because of the writing not the crown. The writing on the back of the shirt says: LIVING AS KING
I give up .... :roll:
lol don't give up! Thx for your post, it s a very interesting find
we always said jermaine looked very well dressed and "prepared" on that day. I can't imagine him hearing bout his lil bro rushed to hospital, obviously dead and thinking: "ok i m gonna put a ton of gel in my hair, put a nice ironed shirt on and go there. Oh and why not put the one that says Living as king...."
.....................but then again we could say that s just a coincidence...one more....
funny howcoincidences add up in this case
just saying... :D
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@tabloidburn
coulld you please post the link to the video that show the shirt are the same?
@word
the fact that we try to analyze everything, doesn't implies that everything lead us to believe Michael is alive.. because we already believe in that! most of all don't need more proof.. this is just.. investigation! that's all!
Lots of L.O.V.E!!
P.S. I would loooove to see the crown in TII when I saw it :(
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@tabloidburn
coulld you please post the link to the video that show the shirt are the same?
Lots of L.O.V.E!!
P.S. I would loooove to see the crown in TII when I saw it :(
I SAW RIGHT NOW THAT HE USED THE SAME RED SHIRT AND WHITE SHIRT AT LEAST TWO DIFERENT DAYS, ONE WITH BLACK T-SHIRT AND OTHER DAY WITH THE BLACK T.SHIRT WITH CURLS FOR MY GIRLS... :roll: I THINK THAT TII WAS ALWAYS A MOVIE AND THE CLOTHES ARE SELECTED FOR THE MOVIE, WAS ALL PLANED... :roll:
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HERE IS ONE PAGE OF THE MEMORIAL BOOK :roll:
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more pics
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
Totally!!! Isnt that awsome!!!
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WAIT!!! WHAT IS ON THE WHITE SHIRT OVER THE RED??? :roll:
Do you mean the white shirt Michael is wearing???? Looks like a crown to me.. Notice on the red shirt beneath the lion " Mission" :) :) :)
So Michael had a mission :D
"Mission" is the trademark :D http://www.tattooapparel.com/c=UwCDvUlS ... __XXL.html (http://www.tattooapparel.com/c=UwCDvUlSYpkolAQnuUDoSygyb/product/B150/Mission_Clothing_Red_Lion_Design_Button_Front_Shirt_Small__XXL.html)
Hi is another coincidence ? Mission :
"MICHAEL Jackson?s unsettled spirit begged ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley to forgive him during a seance in the U.S. with his make-up artist.
Jacko’s make-up artist, Karen Faye said she and Lisa Marie, 42, contacted the King of Pop using a psychic last week, report The Sun.
Faye, 53, said: "He seemed to be on a mission to reach out to people in his life and be forgiven. Michael spent his time explaining his faults and wanting us to forgive him. He seemed unsettled.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/i ... 5828791402 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/indepth/michael-jacksons-spirit-sends-message-to-ex-lisa-marie-in-seance/story-fn3i5h5v-1225828791402)