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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 02:41:42 AM

Title: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 02:41:42 AM
Here is a link for the show Chistopher is doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k87ui_JHLyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k87ui_JHLyY)

You saw that he is working with Phippe Martin from this is it. Take a look at this pic.[attachment=0:1mxkqw4d]chris o2.jpg[/attachment:1mxkqw4d]

He looks like either Orange pants guy from TII or O2 press confrence, either way he has some kind of involvement!!

Look what he wrote on his Facebook photos of the section for the funeral:
So Sad sad pictures ...

He lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
He lives in you
Location: Michael Jackson's funeral at Forest Lawn
Here are a few more pics
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 02:42:37 AM
[attachment=0:14g9ee1k]chris red shrit.jpg[/attachment:14g9ee1k]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 02:43:42 AM
[attachment=0:2ela8a3c]christopher.jpg[/attachment:2ela8a3c]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 02:54:15 AM
This is a link to his twitter:
http://twitter.com/christophermjj/ (http://twitter.com/christophermjj/)

and this is hie post on Facebook:
Christopher GasparI'm leaving the stadium but join you in Nerverland by the first flight ! Lot of kisses and hugs ! CG11 hours ago
 
 :?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 03:41:07 AM
:o OMG good find... I would love to see that first picture but without the over exposure.. He has a very similar look to MJ or the O2 guy. Need to do more research on this guy.
Im still sure there were doubles why would Joe say so and why would Navi say he was approached .. Another coincidence? Or did these 2 just come up with these storys on their own? Either way it was mentioned and has put doubt into peoples heads...
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: CoffeBean on December 13, 2009, 03:55:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMOqY01Zu4E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMOqY01Zu4E)
Look at the end, they is so similar. :?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2 ... 006&v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=216132675006&v=wall)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Whitesocks on December 13, 2009, 04:28:51 AM
wow amazing
 :shock:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: tiida11 on December 13, 2009, 04:33:47 AM
That's it ! I've always said that there were doubles in the TII! But now i'm not sure anymore if i could identify the real Michael among all those impersonators ! Cristopher is very alike to Michael more than Navi , for example.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Whitesocks on December 13, 2009, 04:35:39 AM
yeas and e casanova is still a mistery  :?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: ilprincipe on December 13, 2009, 04:39:49 AM
Wow thanks for the research! Really interesting...even the structure of the ears is
very similar!
With a bad wig and very dark sunglasses..I see a similarity to o2 guy...
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 13, 2009, 04:41:08 AM
Does this guy have a website? So we can get more pics to see.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 13, 2009, 04:48:48 AM
Quote from: "Oetoort"
yeas and e casanova is still a mistery  :?
is he still on the missing persons list :?:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: cutierose on December 13, 2009, 06:18:33 AM
:shock: the 2nd pic really looks like he could have been from TII. I thought sometimes Michael looked a bit more tanned than he would normally be... could have been the lighting... and I have always thought it was him 100% but now the 2nd pic has me wondering... especially since he wore sunnies in lots of the footage!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Ninanina on December 13, 2009, 07:05:36 AM
He's a good new find, but he's got the typically false impersonator-look. Too long face, too big nose, somethings wrong with the forehead, and his mouth is way too "heavy".
Don't need to talk about the eyes, because we believe the doubles wore sunglasses (if there were any...).

Look at this: [youtube:1nylhsuu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnWk03aUgRM&NR=1[/youtube:1nylhsuu]

This guy wasn't at TII.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: doreentbird on December 13, 2009, 08:31:45 AM
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 08:38:22 AM
People please :!:
Everything in film is certainly MJ itself. :?
This guy and the others are with did not stand off like MJ.
This guy has an entloses long face .... he does not see the same way Mj, please this is ridiculous ....... and dreadfully
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Eva R on December 13, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
People please :!:
Everything in film is certainly MJ itself. :?
This guy and the others are with did not stand off like MJ.
This guy has an entloses long face .... he does not see the same way Mj, please this is ridiculous ....... and dreadfully

EXACLY!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 09:46:44 AM
Thanks Eva.R
I am glad if to me please somebody agrees ... this MJ is our MJ in the film have a look at him
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 13, 2009, 09:49:49 AM
There were no impersonators in TII, noone has the voice, moves and looks as Mike IMO.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Invincible7 on December 13, 2009, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
People please :!:
Everything in film is certainly MJ itself. :?
This guy and the others are with did not stand off like MJ.
This guy has an entloses long face .... he does not see the same way Mj, please this is ridiculous ....... and dreadfully
I totally agree with you! I am sure in TII and 02 conference was Mj and nobody else 8-)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
If I thank does not understand why these doubts Thanks this well does to hear....
Nevertheless, it is crystal-clear .... it finds needlessly these comparisons...
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 10:38:59 AM
I would just like to know why would a screen writter from the This is it movie want to work with some impersonator? Maybe this guy was in the orange pants at the begining of the movie? The reason I say this is it states in the first link (the teaser at the begining of the thread) that Christopher adds some of his own style to his MJ performances no example if you remember some of the dance moves in the movie seemed a bit off for MJ's traditinal dance moves, this could have been him? It may have not, I am not trying to come across as saying MJ was not in the movie but some of the sences it seemed a bit out of place, this would not be the first time MJ used a double (who is it video) and in the sences from the smooth crimianl there is a shot of a double to the left of MJ so there are doubles in the movie. Christopher bday is February 13, 1969 so he is younger than MJ which could explain how some say that he appeared to look very young, Christopher could have well been in the ambulance!!?? Im just looking into things it could be nothing just somethings seem a bit out of place with this guy and his connection to This is it. Here is another link to a website, I dont think he is identical to MJ by all means but Im just putting these questions out there why is Phippe Martin screen writer from THIS IS IT movie working on Christophers show/ movie coming out in may ??? http://web.me.com/prefmag/CHRISTOPHERGA ... IS_IT.html (http://web.me.com/prefmag/CHRISTOPHERGASPAR-OFFICIAL/WHO_IS_IT.html)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 13, 2009, 10:42:36 AM
Apart from other things this guys nose is not like Michaels at all. The only way you could pass him off as Michael is if it was at great distance away and your sight was not 100%.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 13, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
[attachment=0:2s9ocbo4]transparent.gif[/attachment:2s9ocbo4]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: larab on December 13, 2009, 10:50:48 AM
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 11:37:53 AM
Please, of course he looks like MJ....
The nose is not same? We know problems MJs with it and leave we to the noses comparison please! :?
MJ has lost weight therefore the proportions see in the face of course differently from ... I Cannot understand it is sorry me, does not know why some think this is not Michael....
What says Joe has no value and I saw Him with 1. times in the cinema this knew immediately is Michael...Acts to me suffer ...... I allow to discuss here better those mine the man with the red trousers is not our MJ...Could stood about that :P
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Whitesocks on December 13, 2009, 11:56:44 AM
Michael used body doubles yes to see how the show looked like when he was on stage.
Remember there was fo 111 hours filmed and we just saw only 80 minutes.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 13, 2009, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x
:lol:  :lol: you made me laugh so much thanks :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 13, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x

 :lol:  and you're so right...

I still believe that it's Michael all the time... O2, TII....
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: TheLLMJ on December 13, 2009, 01:42:58 PM
No, he dont look like MJ at all, not even close. MO
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: rayvyn on December 13, 2009, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Apart from other things this guys nose is not like Michaels at all. The only way you could pass him off as Michael is if it was at great distance away and your sight was not 100%.

 :lol:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 01:48:24 PM
is sorry me, however, if this man in the film would have been, then I would not have stayed down in the cinema (4 times respectably) this would be a punishment for me
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 13, 2009, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: "rayvyn"
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
Apart from other things this guys nose is not like Michaels at all. The only way you could pass him off as Michael is if it was at great distance away and your sight was not 100%.

 :lol:
:lol: THIS IS GETTING CRAZY WHO THE HELL IS THE REAL MICHAEL JACKSON :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: llebreknit on December 13, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
I am pretty sure it was the real MJ at TII all time, except for stunt double for Smooth Criminal.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Claire on December 13, 2009, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x

 :lol:  and you're so right...

I still believe that it's Michael all the time... O2, TII....

agree
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 02:06:23 PM
Now I go to the bath and Must control myself I do not drown myself, please this is certainly MJ
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 13, 2009, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Now I go to the bath and Must control myself I do not drown myself, please this is certainly MJ
:lol:  :lol: im going back in my cell i cant take no more :lol:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 02:31:52 PM
Spakkle29ful
If I must read this once again that not to MJ I will do it now .... I go rather, otherwise, this becomes my last bath... :?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 13, 2009, 02:51:28 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Spakkle29ful
If I must read this once again that not to MJ I will do it now .... I go rather, otherwise, this becomes my last bath... :?
:lol: NO NOT LAST BATH YOU WILL MISS THE BIG BAM :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 13, 2009, 03:44:28 PM
Spakkle29ful
Person I have been moved  :shock: wanted after the bath in the bed and now I thought a good a few more minutes on the forum...
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: anne.mj on December 13, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
This guy doesn't look like Michael at all. Michael is much more beautiful than him. I believe that was Michael in TII in all scenes and songs.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 13, 2009, 10:01:41 PM
:shock: nooo way... I'm sure that even me, with a wig and sunglasses would look like Michael more than him  :lol:
I'm orry but I think it was Michael all along. They just used a stuntman for the smooth criminal video ...doesn't mean this man was a double.
You said that the reason why Michael looked younger was because it was the double? I don't think so... We clearly saw the real Michael (They don't care about us, smooth criminal, thriller ....) and he really looked like in his 30s. Everyone agreed that it was Michael there ... He indeed looked younger. Not a double ...
But that's just my opinion :)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: michangelo on December 13, 2009, 11:23:26 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/15d7237.jpg)

OFFICIAL WEBSITE CHRISTOPHER GASPAR CLICK HERE (http://web.me.com/prefmag/CHRISTOPHERGASPAR-OFFICIAL/Bienvenue.html)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:09:45 AM
I don't think some of you see what I am getting at here, why is a screen writter from the This is it movie bothering to spend there time on some impersonator, it's just kinda strange, this guy could have easily been in that ambulance photo. Look at this is what he wrote yesturday:
Dec 12, 2009 3:55pm
0:04 Added on Saturday
Here it is a sample of the magic light i will have on my Billie Jean Jacket !! 200 in the jacket + the glove and the socks :o) you will need glasses to see the show :o)
I guess they may get some use out of the glasses after all.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:13:55 AM
This is the list of the songs for the show he will be doing:

MICHAEL FOREVER
Celebrate the legend

ACT I - OPENING
SCREAM
2000 WATT
JAM
THE DRILL
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US

WANNA BE STARTING SOMETHING

JACKSON5

ACT II
GILDA
SMOOTH CRIMINAL
DANGEROUS
ROCK MY WORLD

HUMAN NATURE

ACT III
THRILLER
2 BAD
GHOSTS

WILL YOU BE THERE

ACT IV
BAD
BEAT IT
BLACK OR WHITE

BILLE JEAN

ACT V
REMEMBER THE TIME

ACT VI
HISTORY
HEAL THE WORLD
THIS IS IT

MAN IN THE MIRROR Acoustic Version (Guitar)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:18:41 AM
Something else in London June 2010! :?
Christopher GasparPlease give your love and support for our event in London in June 2010! It will benefit the Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, a hospital visited and supported by Michael Jackson. Pending our event, Tribute Artist Christopher Gaspar will perform and the Official Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait will be unveiled. ...We are currently looking for a venue and would be grateful for your advice and support! Please feel welcome to contact me on Facebook. Thank you! :) L.O.V.E
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: tiida11 on December 14, 2009, 12:21:24 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
Something else in London June 2010! :?
Christopher GasparPlease give your love and support for our event in London in June 2010! It will benefit the Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, a hospital visited and supported by Michael Jackson. Pending our event, Tribute Artist Christopher Gaspar will perform and the Official Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait will be unveiled. ...We are currently looking for a venue and would be grateful for your advice and support! Please feel welcome to contact me on Facebook. Thank you! :) L.O.V.E


What if in 2010 if Michael, the real one,plays the role of Cristopher....LOL.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:32:29 AM
Ok I just found these on his facebook page, have any of you seen these? If he did not has some short of connection how would he have gotton these, he posted these in late july!?[attachment=0:3sl029bs]thisis it thil2.jpg[/attachment:3sl029bs]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:33:29 AM
[attachment=0:39mb0bgn]thiitforu.jpg[/attachment:39mb0bgn]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
[attachment=0:354kyq6e]heartsong.jpg[/attachment:354kyq6e]
He wrote This is it  Heart Song
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:36:18 AM
[attachment=0:3qjq9g4m]This is it thiller.jpg[/attachment:3qjq9g4m]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:37:02 AM
[attachment=0:8360xgye]this it3.jpg[/attachment:8360xgye]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:37:42 AM
[attachment=0:7qwf5cal]this it lights.jpg[/attachment:7qwf5cal]
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 12:43:24 AM
[attachment=0:9492vesj]christopher g.jpg[/attachment:9492vesj]
This is Christopher with out MJ make up, not that bad looking, anyway so would someone care to explain how he was at the rehersals ? :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Inhalib on December 14, 2009, 12:58:04 AM
Quote from: "Claire"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x

 :lol:  and you're so right...

I still believe that it's Michael all the time... O2, TII....

agree

I'm sorry but I will disagree.. not in the thing that this guy was or wasn't a double in TII, but i'll disagree about being Michael in O2 and TII
I might be wrong but.. where were they doing the rehearsal?.. in the staples center right? USA?... and the O2 is in London.. right?... Michael has a looooot of jackets and pants and shoes.. we have no need to be in his closet to know that... then why he uses the same clothe in the O2 presentation, and in TII? he is wearing the same jacket in "they don't care about us" on stage (for a short time) aaaand when he is in the studio with the green screen behind teaching the moves to the dancers O.o I believe that the doubles obviously use clothes that are the same or very similar to the ones that Michael use, but i don't believe that he wears the same clothe for a presentation of his concert and for a rehearsal... just a thought.

Sorry about my english!!!!!
Kisses
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Inhalib on December 14, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
Sorry Becca, I forget to mention :P your pictures are very convincent.. I don't know if he was there doing as a double or he was just invited to see the rehearsal.. but he was there or someone give him those pictures O.o that we can't deny
kisses
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 01:13:39 AM
I would just like to know how this impersonator has connections with people whom worked on the movie This is it (philppe Martin) and on the history tour, Chris even did stuff for Pepsi in the early 90's as MJ, I just think something is up here, I want to ask him where he was the day MJ "died" if he was in France or LA ect.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: ibelieve8 on December 14, 2009, 02:58:09 AM
He's a pretty dang good double.. No one can ACTUALLY be MJ. So whether or not there are doubles or what not in TII, idk either. I've been trying to purchase the jacket worn in the O2 conference and can't find a designer, but there are a DOZEN replicas. E Cass even models for one website. So the impersonators can get there hands on plenty in MJ's closet. If they work for him I bet he gives it to them. How he got his hands on those pics? those are good. Would they have just let him take pics? Wasn't this supposed to very hush hush?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Whitesocks on December 14, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
WHY Christopher WHILE Esasanova (who still tweeds with Janet) is the most perfect lookalike????
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
[attachment=0:38kifvve]christopher g.jpg[/attachment:38kifvve]
This is Christopher with out MJ make up, not that bad looking, anyway so would someone care to explain how he was at the rehersals ? :D


Without Make up i think he does resemble MJ or at least more O2 guy... Love the TII pics we should keep an eye on this guy you dont just get to go to rehersals so he knows something!!!!!
Good find
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 01:23:57 PM
Whats his facebook link please???
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: karen-ishealive on December 14, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
I don't believe there were doubles in TII, if there was were they all lip synching everytime they spoke because they sounded very like MJ!!!

Also Joe Jackson is no fool of course he said there were doubles, he wants people to see TII and see for themselves Joe is playing the PR game. It's all about the hype and coverage and bringing in the money
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Whitesocks on December 14, 2009, 01:32:30 PM
ever heard ECAS sing???

Michael used him and other lookaliker to see how the show really looked like during a show..from the eye of the public
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 14, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/christopher.MJJ (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/christopher.MJJ)
Heres his facebook link, and why not ecas probabley because he is more known and Navi is also, If I was trying to do this I would use the least known person, I mean look this guy is getting to work with screen writter from This is it to do a show/movie in may 2010, I would say that's a nice pay off without a paper trail (as far as contracts,checks exchange) just a though, you have to put yourself in the sistuation and think what you would do in a situation. Oh and by the way Christopher opened his twitter account on june 20,2009 and alot of it is in french, I need to get it to transalate, but I have to head off to work, please don't discount this guy.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 14, 2009, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/christopher.MJJ
Heres his facebook link, and why not ecas probabley because he is more known and Navi is also, If I was trying to do this I would use the least known person, I mean look this guy is getting to work with screen writter from This is it to do a show/movie in may 2010, I would say that's a nice pay off without a paper trail (as far as contracts,checks exchange) just a though, you have to put yourself in the sistuation and think what you would do in a situation. Oh and by the way Christopher opened his twitter account on june 20,2009 and alot of it is in french, I need to get it to transalate, but I have to head off to work, please don't discount this guy.

Thanks for the link. I take back what I said about him ...  :oops:  There are actually good pics of him as Michael...interesting indeed...
His profile seems to be the same kind as Karen's, I will keep an eye on this :)
Do you have the link of his twitter please ?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: kdkennedy74 on December 14, 2009, 03:06:26 PM
The only time that I am without a doubt sure that I am seeing a double in TII is during the B&W rehearsal.  I know it is MJ during the parts where he is wearing the black jacket but when they show him working with the guitarist girl telling her to hold the notes and that it is her time to shine, there is something about the jawline structure that is just way too hard in my opinion.  I have thought it since the first time I seen the movie and when I seen this picture that jawline stuck out at me.  I don't think he looks like a great impersonator but I could see how from a side view he could pass and that was really what they gave us in that moment on the film.

JMO
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 03:47:27 PM
OK see his  chin....... Now imagine MJs people getting there hands on the rest of his face to create a better nose... We all assume these lookalikes should look just like MJ but remember they are NOT professional make up artists.. Im sure if there were doubles MJs people (THE BEST IN THE WORLD) would have worked their magic....
Ok see comparison
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 03:48:41 PM
The chins sorry the pics shrunk!!!!!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 14, 2009, 03:49:52 PM
Wow I saw TII three times and I just really didnt like the cuts with orange pants-I was between :what happened to you Michael or why did they use someone else. See look all the other pics in the world of Mike he has a defined jaw line and not such a big forehead. He just was "off" in the orange pants. I had totally abandoned the idea of doubles though because I was getting confused...and u know I would hate it all to be him and he be keepin up on us and wonderin y we r stuck on doubles.
  Here is really y I stayed away from doubles/impersonaters though-why were they using them? with all these supposed hours of footage why show us the doubles at all? Why did they not just show us the ones from the day he wore the suit? (I love those scens  :D ) And if they had to use doubles ALOT then that would make all these negative stories credence-drugs and depression and not showing up or even wanting to perform? How would impersonaters tie in to the danger theory...I cant reconcile it and it makes me sad.
 This guy does not look like Michael and Becca was not stating that he did,but compare him to orange pants and he looks like that guy-the ears even stand out. The lips the forehead. That guy did not "feel" like Michael-I was convinced he was Michael when he did the "speechless" line. The sunglasses....ok you might can fool ppl when they have not seen a person in several years  but you cannot have someone elses eyes. MJ may have had a lip job-dont know y  because his mouth was fine ;) ,but he cant change his eyes and everyone knows his eyes.
 Someone reconcile this for me.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
Ps.. Without the MJ makeup i would not say NO this guy is hot!!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Wow I saw TII three times and I just really didnt like the cuts with orange pants-I was between :what happened to you Michael or why did they use someone else. See look all the other pics in the world of Mike he has a defined jaw line and not such a big forehead. He just was "off" in the orange pants. I had totally abandoned the idea of doubles though because I was getting confused...and u know I would hate it all to be him and he be keepin up on us and wonderin y we r stuck on doubles.
  Here is really y I stayed away from doubles/impersonaters though-why were they using them? with all these supposed hours of footage why show us the doubles at all? Why did they not just show us the ones from the day he wore the suit? (I love those scens  :D ) And if they had to use doubles ALOT then that would make all these negative stories credence-drugs and depression and not showing up or even wanting to perform? How would impersonaters tie in to the danger theory...I cant reconcile it and it makes me sad.
 This guy does not look like Michael and Becca was not stating that he did,but compare him to orange pants and he looks like that guy-the ears even stand out. The lips the forehead. That guy did not "feel" like Michael-I was convinced he was Michael when he did the "speechless" line. The sunglasses....ok you might can fool ppl when they have not seen a person in several years  but you cannot have someone elses eyes. MJ may have had a lip job-dont know y  because his mouth was fine ;) ,but he cant change his eyes and everyone knows his eyes.
 Someone reconcile this for me.

Does anyone have a close up pic of Orange pants for a comparison? I agree he does not look like Mj but see my previous post and what MJs make up people could do, I mean "Ghosts" How many people knew that was MJ till the credits or someone told them??
It is possible doubles were used and people who wont even entertain the idea are underestimating MJ i mean there is a reason if he is behind it....
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 14, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
Mj picked Ecas himself for the part of a double in "Who is it" and other music vids...

Michael also used a double on stage for the werewolf part of the Thriller song. He'd be back stage stage changing during that time. Usually on stage, when you saw Michael run off stage and the pyrotechnics suddenly come on with Michael standing there again, that was usually a double. Mike would be backstage getting oxgen and changing.

He used them in real life to as decoys to fool fans after concerts and when he needed to leave hotels etc...

For This Is It, Michael was going to do a lot of illusion and had several doubles lined up.

It's really not uncommon.
Here is a pic of MJ working with one of his doubles.. For the video "Leave me alone"
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 14, 2009, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Wow I saw TII three times and I just really didnt like the cuts with orange pants-I was between :what happened to you Michael or why did they use someone else. See look all the other pics in the world of Mike he has a defined jaw line and not such a big forehead. He just was "off" in the orange pants. I had totally abandoned the idea of doubles though because I was getting confused...and u know I would hate it all to be him and he be keepin up on us and wonderin y we r stuck on doubles.
  Here is really y I stayed away from doubles/impersonaters though-why were they using them? with all these supposed hours of footage why show us the doubles at all? Why did they not just show us the ones from the day he wore the suit? (I love those scens  :D ) And if they had to use doubles ALOT then that would make all these negative stories credence-drugs and depression and not showing up or even wanting to perform? How would impersonaters tie in to the danger theory...I cant reconcile it and it makes me sad.
 This guy does not look like Michael and Becca was not stating that he did,but compare him to orange pants and he looks like that guy-the ears even stand out. The lips the forehead. That guy did not "feel" like Michael-I was convinced he was Michael when he did the "speechless" line. The sunglasses....ok you might can fool ppl when they have not seen a person in several years  but you cannot have someone elses eyes. MJ may have had a lip job-dont know y  because his mouth was fine ;) ,but he cant change his eyes and everyone knows his eyes.
 Someone reconcile this for me.

Does anyone have a close up pic of Orange pants for a comparison? I agree he does not look like Mj but see my previous post and what MJs make up people could do, I mean "Ghosts" How many people knew that was MJ till the credits or someone told them??
It is possible doubles were used and people who wont even entertain the idea are underestimating MJ i mean there is a reason if he is behind it....

Exactly what I meant-if u step back and realisticly and without emotion look at orange pants dude he doesnt look like Michael and when u compare orange pants to him in the jacket suit-well I wont say more...the suit dude was hot and on point. The other shots looked similiar to orange pants dude but I think they were Michael (I just cant stop lovin you cut) the last scenes he looked sooo much skinnier it was painful-in reality I have to say that. Overall my favorite takes had MJ as we know him all over it-Thriller,Smooth Criminal,Earth Song and They Dont Care about Us(and the inbetween shots with the suit)

@Leah-Kim-I didnt know about the WII video-and I love that video too was the whole thing E-Cas...and I figured out a long time ago what the doubles were for on stage....I mean how could he leap from song to song and look fresher every time. I figured out that all the theatrics with the werewolf going into a coffin/nailbed were for him to freshen up backstage-LOLLLL And lets not forget the Dangerous stage exit!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 14, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
I'm sorry but noone can make me believe that there were NO body doubles in TII. I saw 3 different there! And I'm sure of it. Look at the chin, the eyes, eyebrows and the ear! It's NOT a photoshop and it's NOT about the lighting or the make up. These are 2 different guys and only one of them is Michael ;)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/308jep5.jpg)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 14, 2009, 04:21:45 PM
So with that thought in mind -with all that was planned for illusionary effect this guy or any other could have been for that purpose and not necessarily what or who we saw in the footage we actualy saw.? :?:
 :!:  But that brings me to the issue of the theory that TII was intended as a movie from the beginning...if theatrics were an absolute intention then it does not reconcile with the theory that what we saw was all that there ever was gonna be-it was gonna be a real show to top all shows :|
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 12:03:09 AM
Thankyou all for taking a little deeper of a look into this, it has been bugging me, why would MJ want to use them in this is it? Im not sure, maybe to see if people would believe this was him in the movie the whole time? Kinda when he had Frank sell the tablods the pics of him in the burn contrapson, or him wanting to buy the elephant mans bones, he was seeing what people would believe, I mean look at the whole drug thing that he was suppost to be addictied to, to help him sleep, if you remember every i mean EVERY doctor I saw interview days after his "death" would say the same thing that they never heard people using this to get sleep or ger addicted to, but because it's MJ people will believe anything...why not this :D  Here's the link one of you asked for on twitter for Christopher:
http://twitter.com/christophermjj (http://twitter.com/christophermjj)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 15, 2009, 01:04:54 AM
He sounds like some of us If i Burn a red traffic light, 15 days after i'm In front of the judge. He killed Michael and he's still free ? Wha http://tl.gd/saq8 (http://tl.gd/saq8) 5:53 PM Nov 7th from TwitBird iPhone
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: jeramie on December 15, 2009, 02:39:55 AM
Very nice find!   :)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 07:24:45 AM
Quote from: "jeramie"
Very nice find!   :)
Thanks sweetie, it's great to see you on here!!! I hope this may help us in some way. I anyone finds anything else reguarding Christopher please post it here. I will contiue to dig and keep my eye's and ear's open. :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 07:27:22 AM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
He sounds like some of us If i Burn a red traffic light, 15 days after i'm In front of the judge. He killed Michael and he's still free ? Wha http://tl.gd/saq8 (http://tl.gd/saq8) 5:53 PM Nov 7th from TwitBird iPhone
I can't put my finger on it when it comes to him??? It says on his facebook he was born in 69, he looks even younger than that to me!!??? I need to find a clip of him performing startin something to see how he move when he does it. 8-)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: CoffeBean on December 15, 2009, 07:52:54 AM
Look: http://www.facebook.com/notes/christoph ... 6874260988 (http://www.facebook.com/notes/christopher-gaspar/it-is-me-on-this-is-it-/206874260988)
 :?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 15, 2009, 07:57:22 AM
Take a look at theses 2 comparisons... Its the chin for me they match...
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 08:08:22 AM
Quote from: "CoffeBean"
Look: http://www.facebook.com/notes/christoph ... 6874260988 (http://www.facebook.com/notes/christopher-gaspar/it-is-me-on-this-is-it-/206874260988)
 :?
Hey atleast I was'nt the only person whom he stuck out to  :D  Of cours he isant going to say hey yeah I was in this is it!! He's seem's to be trying to be funny about it, it's funny he talks about ecas and navi saying that they don't look that much like MJ (like I said before those two were more known impersonators then him) now he's becoming more talked about I wounder if he was the guy Latoya had in mind the time she was talking about doing a tribute in south america for MJ? :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 08:10:10 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Take a look at theses 2 comparisons... Its the chin for me they match...
I think as long as he keeps his glasses on he could pass for some of the shot's in This is it. :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 15, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
His facebook post about Michael Jackson Ressuraction: he just posted this a minute ago:
Christopher GasparFor me there is no difference between the announcement of the destruction of the Twin Towers and loss of lives, it's the same... an horrible event who wrote sadly our history.
But it's true for us fan that we lost a part of us the 25th June 2009. This is not just an horrible history event, it's our heart and soul who was hurt too. Life broke a part... See More of us. But this day we pay attention to each of us and start to be the big L.O.V.E family. A light comes in our heart pushing out the shadow.
This Day Michael came in our soul like a revelation of who is was for us and for humanity and heal our heart.
This day, as sad as it was, this day Michael became more than a human, he is a light !
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 15, 2009, 08:30:52 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
Quote from: "CoffeBean"
Look: http://www.facebook.com/notes/christoph ... 6874260988 (http://www.facebook.com/notes/christopher-gaspar/it-is-me-on-this-is-it-/206874260988)
 :?
Hey atleast I was'nt the only person whom he stuck out to  :D  Of cours he isant going to say hey yeah I was in this is it!! He's seem's to be trying to be funny about it, it's funny he talks about ecas and navi saying that they don't look that much like MJ (like I said before those two were more known impersonators then him) now he's becoming more talked about I wounder if he was the guy Latoya had in mind the time she was talking about doing a tribute in south america for MJ? :D

Whoa thats interesting............
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: loveumj88 on December 15, 2009, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: "larab"
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.


Agree with you on this..
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 15, 2009, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: "loveumj88"
Quote from: "larab"
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.


Agree with you on this..

You actually wouldnt need to look like MJ to be a double as long as you were the right build... Mj had the best make up artists money could buy... I mean come on so many people think it was MJ was Dave Dave on LKL but nobody apart from a very few of us believe the same thing could have been done with doubles!! Who do you think did MJs make up for LKL DD appearence?? Certainly not himself, The pros would ave worked for hours like in GHOSTS..
So look beneath the surface it is possible.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: larab on December 15, 2009, 10:48:21 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "loveumj88"
Quote from: "larab"
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.


Agree with you on this..

You actually wouldnt need to look like MJ to be a double as long as you were the right build... Mj had the best make up artists money could buy... I mean come on so many people think it was MJ was Dave Dave on LKL but nobody apart from a very few of us believe the same thing could have been done with doubles!! Who do you think did MJs make up for LKL DD appearence?? Certainly not himself, The pros would ave worked for hours like in GHOSTS..
So look beneath the surface it is possible.

I believe Michael was not DD. and no, it is not possible to move, talk, sing and dance exactly like Michael.
maybe a make up artist could make a double look like him, but not perfectly.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: billiejean17 on December 15, 2009, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x

I agree his face is way too big, and Michael always looked hot no matter what! LOL!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 15, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
I've never believed there were doubles in This is It ... but you guys make me think... I don't know anymore. Sometimes I was a little confused watching the movie, but i thought I felt this way because we haven't really seen him performing for years, and that he may have change a little .
In Christopher's videos,  while he is performing, we see the difference between Michael and him, there's something missing, that only Michael has :)  but he is a good performer though. I don't know when was it but, he's really good! The voice, really not like him no. Lip synching?
But if he really was in this is it, he wouldn't have post this note on facebook , right? To me he's just making fun of the people who think he could be a double..
I don't know I'm confused lol
Thanks for the twitter link becca :)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: DooDoo on December 15, 2009, 01:52:36 PM
The name Christopher rings me a bell . Isn't there someone who contacted a girl on MJHD some time ago claiming he knew about a Christopher guy who was at the O2 instead of Michael and who swapped place with Michael in several occasions?  :shock:
He might have been a troll , but still... it's a coincidence  :shock:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Lou on December 15, 2009, 02:43:12 PM
Quote from: "DooDoo"
The name Christopher rings me a bell . Isn't there someone who contacted a girl on MJHD some time ago claiming he knew about a Christopher guy who was at the O2 instead of Michael and who swapped place with Michael in several occasions?  :shock:
He might have been a troll , but still... it's a coincidence  :shock:
I know what you're talking about, but I think they said the guy's name was Johnatan, if I remember it well.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: DooDoo on December 15, 2009, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "DooDoo"
The name Christopher rings me a bell . Isn't there someone who contacted a girl on MJHD some time ago claiming he knew about a Christopher guy who was at the O2 instead of Michael and who swapped place with Michael in several occasions?  :shock:
He might have been a troll , but still... it's a coincidence  :shock:
I know what you're talking about, but I think they said the guy's name was Johnatan, if I remember it well.
you're right, he was Jonathan  :? I got confused
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Inhalib on December 15, 2009, 06:53:17 PM
hellooo
well, i watched TII again and I have to retract to what I've said... he is wearing the same jacket in the studio for the green screen and in the O2 arena. I said he used the same jacket also in the SCenter, but I checked again and.. no, he doesn't.. is a little stage that is similar to the structure of the big one, I guess it was in the studio and I get confussed. My bad.

kisses!
-
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: je on December 15, 2009, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: "tiida11"
Quote from: "becca26"
Something else in London June 2010! :?
Christopher GasparPlease give your love and support for our event in London in June 2010! It will benefit the Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, a hospital visited and supported by Michael Jackson. Pending our event, Tribute Artist Christopher Gaspar will perform and the Official Michael Jackson Tribute Portrait will be unveiled. ...We are currently looking for a venue and would be grateful for your advice and support! Please feel welcome to contact me on Facebook. Thank you! :) L.O.V.E


What if in 2010 if Michael, the real one,plays the role of Cristopher....LOL.

@tiida11, i was thinking the same thing after reading that post.
I googled  photos of Christopher Gasper and saw these photos of him,
here are 2. I need to see the TII again before i can say for sure if it's
all Michael.. Looking at the photos i would have to say impersonators
were used..just an observation..

(http://i49.tinypic.com/1r3ss2.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2u8xws6.jpg)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: je on December 15, 2009, 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
Here is a link for the show Chistopher is doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k87ui_JHLyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k87ui_JHLyY)

You saw that he is working with Phippe Martin from this is it. Take a look at this pic.[attachment=0:3hmdiq6r]chris o2.jpg[/attachment:3hmdiq6r]

He looks like either Orange pants guy from TII or O2 press confrence, either way he has some kind of involvement!!

Look what he wrote on his Facebook photos of the section for the funeral:
So Sad sad pictures ...

He lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
He lives in you
Location: Michael Jackson's funeral at Forest Lawn
Here are a few more pics

here is the link to that song..if you listen almost all the way you
will hear a voice that starts talking and the person sounds like MJ
HE LIVES IN YOU a world project
Link: http://www.reverbnation.com/christophergaspar (http://www.reverbnation.com/christophergaspar)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 16, 2009, 12:55:00 AM
Wow you guys are great Im away from my computer but I will check out that link to his song to see if I can hear MJ, no problem with reguards to the link for his twitter, speaking of that if you look at the one from july 15th I believe it was, he was saying something like this: THEY want me to do a tribute to Michael, and a few days before he had just returned from london, but who was he speaking about when he said they?? Also the lady Debbie on the post from facebook, it seems like they are speaking in code at times, I will post the notes when I get to my computer. :)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: jeramie on December 16, 2009, 01:17:58 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
Quote from: "jeramie"
Very nice find!   :)
Thanks sweetie, it's great to see you on here!!! I hope this may help us in some way. I anyone finds anything else reguarding Christopher please post it here. I will contiue to dig and keep my eye's and ear's open. :D

Thanks becca!   ;)   Excellent find, I'm sure it will help in some way.  And if I find anything about Christopher, I will post it on here.   :D
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: MJLOVER32 on December 16, 2009, 06:38:58 AM
Whoever the doubles are we know o2 was not mj, or maybe it was mj acting with a wig on, either way MJ IS ALIVE, i have no doubt about that!! esp after watching all the utube vids of lunajo, pianogames, mjfanforeva and c33stylicz. just cant wait for his return... !! :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: MJLOVER32 on December 16, 2009, 06:42:14 AM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
He sounds like some of us If i Burn a red traffic light, 15 days after i'm In front of the judge. He killed Michael and he's still free ? Wha http://tl.gd/saq8 (http://tl.gd/saq8) 5:53 PM Nov 7th from TwitBird iPhone

I love ur gif, its so cute, i cant stop watching it, i wish that was my niece/nephew in mjs arms being kissed!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Inhalib on December 16, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
I wish it was me!!!! at this age!!! being kissed by MJ!!

sorry, off-topic I know, but I needed to say it, I bet a lot of you thought the same after reading MJL post :P
sory sorry, I'll try not to do it again.
kisses!!!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 16, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
Something You may find interesting from Chris  ;)  :?

This is on his facebook.

The ResurrectionShare
 Yesterday at 8:59am
THE RESURRECTION
Michael Jackson 25th June 2009

(A short adventure allowing you to peek at what is to follow, and may this give you all some comfort, in the manner that it did for us. It’s all about L.O.V.E through Michael).

As with the many viewers of an accident, we will all have a different idea of what we saw, or think we saw and how we then re-act to this. We all love Michael Jackson, but also have different reasons as to why. Some of us will love him for the way he dances, other’s for the songs he writes, or perhaps the way he sings them, or his raunchy sensuality in the rhythm of physical movement on a stage, or could it be for his efforts as a humanitarian, his determination to heal a dying planet or his aspirations from early childhood to stop wars, or lastly is it a combination of all of these and perhaps way more?

Whatever your personal reasons are for loving Michael, one that both Christopher and I agree on, is that he was not an ordinary human being. We find Michael to be God like, and what is God like you may well ask, well we consider this to be “The epitome of Love” manifested in his endless efforts to teach us and guide us to all the things that mattered most.

Through Michael’s prophecies written, in oral form and sung by him throughout his lifetime, his unselfish efforts to change the world for the betterment of us all, impacted on our lives with such energy, power and force that whether we realized it or not earlier, he became not only The King of Pop, but the King of planet earth.

There was no one who did not know who Michael Jackson was, but ask an average American, who is the Queen of England, and most will reply, that they did not know that there was a Queen, or ask a Jewish man who is the current Pope and he will have no idea, or a Christian who is the chief Rabbi and once again the question will remain unanswered.

The results of Michael’s impact on our lives, were finally recognized by the media, on the 25th June 2009, in what they called a tidal wave of grief across the planet on the announcement of his departure.

This was no tidal wave, this was the biggest Tsunami, (in my words and view) that had ever swept across the planet, being very obviously greater than the loss of Princess Diana and furthermore, than the loss of any other king, religious spokesman or President in the hearts of the population of planet earth in modern history.

The world came to a stand-still, it simply stopped revolving and we all got off. The internet recorded the highest ever traffic in history, cell phone calls and text messages consumed the largest usage ever recorded in one day. I can go on here about the effects created by this horrific announcement released by the press, and that it visibly brought the planet to its knees and to a grinding halt, but I’m trying to keep our thoughts to a minimum length for the moment.

On the 11th September 2001, I got several calls telling me to turn on my television, as one of the Twin Towers had been bombed and were coming down. I did not understand, and asked what they were talking about, but went and turned on my television quickly. This was right at the point where two woman in the street were looking up at flames engulfing the tower and many items could be seen falling from the building like specs of enlarged dust. These women, were screaming the words, “oh Jesus, Christ, oh Jesus Christ”. I stood there numb in front of my television, wondering what I was actually seeing? Was this a movie perhaps? I ignored my phone ringing. My blood ran cold as I then saw a plane coming and disappear into the second tower and then when reality hit me, I too started to scream, “Oh my God, Oh my God” and my body trembled in horror and shock when I realized what was actually happening. For a considerable period of time our minds and thoughts were swept up with compassion and empathy for those who unnecessarily lost and gave their lives that day to help others, but after 8 years passes us by, still no monument or new buildings have been erected to replace those lost and for many, September the 11th, is now another historical event of tragedy, that we think of each year, when memorial services are announced.

On the 29th of June 2009, I got several calls when I woke up, telling me to look in my computer quickly as Michael Jackson was dead. In the same confused manner described in the paragraph above, I did what I was asked, but told the callers, or looked at the texts and thought it’s a joke, as last month he was dying of cancer, or a lung problem, and before that it was something else. I turned on the computer, saw the news, and at first sat in front of it totally paralyzed and numb. My first realities were those of denial, so I searched other news sites in the following seconds. My hands started to shake in such an uncontrollable fashion, that my fingers could not make the keyboard operate, my mouth became parched, my legs trembled beneath my desk, I almost stopped breathing, and then I started to hysterically scream.

The difference between the announcement of the destruction of the Twin Towers and loss of lives, in comparison to the announcement of the death of Michael Jackson, is simply this, Michael Jackson will never, ever be forgotten, he will live on today, tomorrow, and for many generation’s after all of us, have long since gone.

Since that moment and “that” day, much has happened and we all search for answers as to why, this is human nature. I’m sure the majority of you have continually examined the possibilities that Michael’s death was just a hoax, just as both Christopher and I have done. Let us discuss this alternative view with you briefly first.

From the moment this news was announced, there has been a labyrinth of mystery involved in the strange occurrence’s that happened that day, and that continue still even while I sit here typing this. There are most certainly some highly visible and irregular events and non-events that continue to remain in existence. There are in some instances, items produced and created from a stack of photo shopped publication’s and false press reports in an effort to stare us intentionally away from the truth. For some of us, we can only assume if there is no conviction, perhaps there is no crime.

With the guidance of Michael, we looked past all obstructions from underneath the darkness of the oversized blanket of surrounding us, and rationally came up with the following thoughts when the lights turned on for us.

If Michael is still “physically” alive, then he would never, ever be able to reveal himself again to any of us, or his estranged family. There would be many sacrifices that he would have to make, in order to achieve this, because if he were ever caught out, he would for sure, spend the rest of his living day’s behind the unforgiving bars of a security prison. Christopher, also realized, that to achieve the result of having to change completely his identity beyond recognition, that even Government bureaucracies would have to be involved in order, to help him hide away forever. Looking into his past history of adoringly hiding himself in a variety of disguises, this is not an impossibility of course.

Why would he do this and arrange such a dramatic exit? In a simple paragraph,(based on our realizations, feeling Michael’s guidance) firstly, because he could no longer cope with continually being crucified by his predator’s mainly being the media who set about to destroy him for more than 15 years to date, the gold digging vermin who continually conspired to sue him, the cruelty of the newspaper critic’s who never ceased to refer to him by the most objectionable and offensive names, along with many other pressure’s of his day to day life that for most of us, would have been unimaginable to deal with. Subsequently, he was pushed into performing 50 concerts, and would have lived with the continual concern that regardless of how well he performed, his critic’s would have striped him of his dignity by saying, he couldn’t do this as well as previously, his movement’s weren’t as good, his voice was strained, his hair was way too straight or far too frizzy, (do you get the drift?) and this would have been more than our God like Michael could have emotionally tolerated. If Michael has managed to achieve this act of disappearance, through all his obvious sacrifices in order to do so, then wherever he is, may he find everlasting peace and contentment away from the prying eyes of his crucifixion executor’s.

On the other side of the coin, is the plain hard cold factual possibility, that on the 25th of June 2009, the body of our Michael, was in reality taken by ambulance with a heart that was no longer beating, and if this is the case, we must then rejoice in knowing that Michael on this day, achieved everything he most desired in his life, being way too much to explain in depth for you now. Whether legally deceased or illegally alive, our Michael had his ultimate dream come turn into fruition.

Michael strived to be the best, to be the most famous person on our planet, and he also stated the following, “If you enter this world knowing you are loved, and leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with”. No one dealt with the in betweens as courageously as did our Michael, and no one else “left” being truly loved by billions of people, from one end of the physical universe to the other. Never before has anyone touched the hearts of so many, and never before has a musical genius and humanitarian been acknowledged and blessed in his passing, by the royalty or heads of Government’s worldwide.

Between History and Invincible, things were quiet for Michael, because of the stigma that lingered over him, from the dreadful allegations that became front page news. His plans were many, but in the main were suppressed in a variety of forms. With the announcement and his visions for his concert come back, even then the media undermined his abilities to achieve the results sought, and pressure became too great for him. In many places worldwide, tribute artists could not perform any longer, and if they did were despised by many haters and other ignorant observer’s.

On the 25th June 2009, Michael achieved the thing he wanted most. This is the day of his resurrection. He did it for us, don’t give up on him. Love him always in the same way as he loves you. He lives in you, he lives in me, we are his family, his army of Love. He is here now with us, more than he ever was and he is happy with the outcome. The king is not dead, our God like King reigns and rules on better than he ever managed in the past.

The above words to you from us, are merely touching on the entirety of the story involved, but we hope that you will find solace, and look at what we are trying to briefly explain for now. We trust also, that we have opened widely the windows of your minds, and pulled up the blinds to allow the light inside
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 16, 2009, 10:31:58 PM
Something else caught my eye:






At what age did you started to have this passion for Michael Jackson?

Christopher Gaspar: I am the youngest of 6 children, they had tons of disks and one day they introduced me to the album OFF THE WALL and my passion was born to Michael.
When released the album THRILLER and the birth of television video clips I devoured each image of each.
I started copying all the choreography. I became increasingly attracting for my family, "Come, let us do Michael Jackson!".
The song Thriller was a further step, because I started to dress in red to do my little show.
From then on my passion for Michael never left me.

Since when have you been in this trade official impersonator of Michael Jackson?

Christopher Gaspar: I had to live in the U.S. and I had come to establish my student card and say goodbye to my family.
I was staying with a friend who had a Pariscope magazine lying on his bed.
In its pages I saw a flyer on the famous french cabaret Alcazar de Paris.
With the nerve, I called at random by saying that I imitated Michael and I wanted to know if they would be interested. They answered me yes and asked me to see the show at the evening.
I didn’t know there was a show on BAD and an artistic director was searching for a dancer to interpret Michael Jackson.
The next day I auditioned and they hired me immediately.
It was the eve of BAD TOUR’s concert in 1988. I went to see Michael in concert for the first time and the next night I imitated him on stage.

How did you manage to imitate him so much?

Christopher Gaspar: I've always been very demanding on the costumes. I archived a photographic documentation and seamstresses charge to reproduce the costumes to the slightest detail. In approaching me as closest to his costume materials used, such as metal or crystals of the famous glove.

Regarding make-up, it must be confessed that with time it was easier for me to imitate. Its morphological changes were close to my bone structure and make-up help, I ended up becoming more similar.

How have you been recognized official impersonator?

Christopher Gaspar: I became official impersonator in 1989 by integrating the first and only impersonator’s agency in France led by Mrs Huguette Funfrock (funny name).

I really worked for the image of Michael Jackson from 1993 with the PEPSI TOUR.
Then I promoted the boxes Ghosts and Black or White’s Dolls.
What for me is always an enigma, because I've never tried to be his impersonator.
I played many characters, more or less known, but every time Michael sticked me to the skin, and for 22 years, he never left me.

When you learned the death of the King of Pop, what was your reaction?

Christopher Gaspar: I didn’t believe it, I immediately thought it was a joke in bad taste.
When I began to realize over time that he had a cardiac arrest I hope they resuscitate him!
I guess I never realized he could leave us one day!
They phoned me a lot, it was a piece of me that died too!
21 years of my artistic life.
The Michael’s fans supported me a lot and asked me to resist. I was asked to go onstage to pay tribute and honor its artistic heritage and man.
Without the fans, I don’t think I had the courage to do so.
I want to thank them so much for their support and affection they bear me.

Are you practicing a profession other than Michael Jackson impersonator?

Christopher Gaspar: I work in the press men today. But I must say that for 24 years, I was primarily a performer. I was a singer and dancer and participated in musicals and shows, not in relation with Michael.
It’s true that Michael included 70% of my artistic life, but I had the chance to perform the amazing characters like Peter Pan or Frank-N-Furter from Rocky Horror Picture show, for example. :O)
I was part of a group of singers, I've done things I believe. :o)

Do you have several tours planned?

Christopher Gaspar: As of today, we are still writing the tribute show.
We know it will be in residence in a great theater in Paris to May 2010.
There will be a tour later. It will be clear when we’ll know a little more.
We're also on a project that must be achieved very soon but I prefer to keep silence over as nothing is signed!
Not that I'm superstitious but until something is done. :o)



Thank you very much Christopher Gaspar for this interview.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 17, 2009, 07:15:40 AM
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A cuple of pic's he has on his page  :?  :shock:  8-)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 17, 2009, 07:16:34 AM
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Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: sweet1 on December 17, 2009, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "loveumj88"
Quote from: "larab"
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.


Agree with you on this..

You actually wouldnt need to look like MJ to be a double as long as you were the right build... Mj had the best make up artists money could buy... I mean come on so many people think it was MJ was Dave Dave on LKL but nobody apart from a very few of us believe the same thing could have been done with doubles!! Who do you think did MJs make up for LKL DD appearence?? Certainly not himself, The pros would ave worked for hours like in GHOSTS..
So look beneath the surface it is possible.

You couldn't have said it better. I don't know why anyone thinks that MJ would never use a double. Kenny Ortega said he rarely showed up for rehearsals during the staging for TII. I believe he used doubles solely for the purpose of his escape. MJ was long gone before June 25th. He was wherever he was orchestrating and making sure the plan went smoothly. There were some hiccups which is why some things that happened overtime had to be recapped. I often think about Ghosts and am totally amazed that MJ was the Mayor. Professionals can do anything with makeup just like you indicated. Keep the Faith!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 17, 2009, 11:47:02 AM
Quote from: "sweet1"
You couldn't have said it better. I don't know why anyone thinks that MJ would never use a double. Kenny Ortega said he rarely showed up for rehearsals during the staging for TII. I believe he used doubles solely for the purpose of his escape. MJ was long gone before June 25th. He was wherever he was orchestrating and making sure the plan went smoothly. There were some hiccups which is why some things that happened overtime had to be recapped. I often think about Ghosts and am totally amazed that MJ was the Mayor. Professionals can do anything with makeup just like you indicated. Keep the Faith!

100% agreed. I think Michael was gone before June 25th too. This date it's just the one when they decided to tell the world about his "death". And his disguise in Ghosts totally blew me off!  Michael even said in an interview "I can fool my own mother". That says it all.  Don't forget that he must have the best people to work with.
Maybe people see him everyday but don't pay attention to it because it's a disguise. Maybe he is completely in hiding, we can't know...
Well done Michael !
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 17, 2009, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
Quote from: "sweet1"
You couldn't have said it better. I don't know why anyone thinks that MJ would never use a double. Kenny Ortega said he rarely showed up for rehearsals during the staging for TII. I believe he used doubles solely for the purpose of his escape. MJ was long gone before June 25th. He was wherever he was orchestrating and making sure the plan went smoothly. There were some hiccups which is why some things that happened overtime had to be recapped. I often think about Ghosts and am totally amazed that MJ was the Mayor. Professionals can do anything with makeup just like you indicated. Keep the Faith!

100% agreed. I think Michael was gone before June 25th too. This date it's just the one when they decided to tell the world about his "death". And his disguise in Ghosts totally blew me off!  Michael even said in an interview "I can fool my own mother". That says it all.  Don't forget that he must have the best people to work with.
Maybe people see him everyday but don't pay attention to it because it's a disguise. Maybe he is completely in hiding, we can't know...
Well done Michael !

He could be right infront of our faces and not even know it!! He most likely does'nt look like the MJ we know him to look like, he's probably in a book store as we speak lol  ;)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on December 18, 2009, 04:59:15 PM
I found more photos of Christopher:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076764418/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076764418/)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076774298/in/photostream/)

Sometimes he indeed looks like HIM and sometimes not hmmm..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076034533/in/photostream/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076041521/in/photostream/)

How about that smile??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4098910331/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: becca26 on December 19, 2009, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I found more photos of Christopher:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076764418/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076764418/)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076774298/in/photostream/)

Sometimes he indeed looks like HIM and sometimes not hmmm..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076034533/in/photostream/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4076041521/in/photostream/)

How about that smile??
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26027059@N03/4098910331/in/photostream/)
I know it is a bit strange? I just want to know whom he was talking about when he said THEY want him to do a tribute to MJ, and why is he going to do a show working with This is it screen writter, and he is using this is it poster, but with his pics to promote the show?
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Tina K. on March 15, 2010, 10:21:33 AM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
Hell no..this guy looks nothing like MJ. His face is way too long, his whole face looks off..No way he was in TII.  Sorry to say this guy is butt ugly.  MJ is his worst times never looked ugly IMO..

 :x
100 % AGREE !!!
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: badkolo on March 15, 2010, 11:01:43 AM
I think the issue with these doubles is this.

Alot of these people that we see are impersonators who perform besides any little work they do for michael. in certain light and angles they resemble michael but dont look exactly like him and its noticable.

What we (or at least I am) looking for is Doubles or a doppleganger.

That would be a person who michael has chosen , a person that is his height and build and is willing to get full plastic surgery in order to look as close to michael as possible, this job would entail living with michael for years and years as his double which provides him safety and the ability to escape and be at 2 places at once.

Now i cant state how many impersonators or doubles where used but i feel there is at least 1 double that resembles michael more then we can imagine and we have been fooled all these years.

Now I dont need to convince anyone but to say its not possible isnt the brightest thing to say, we live in a world where with money anything is possible and with the right money and power you can have someone turn into your twin. its possible, its doable and has been done many times for prominent people.

and in michaels case, i can see him having somoene surgicly turn into michael and that person is most likely paid millions for his services, and we all know there is many out there that would jump at the opportunity.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: techdiva on March 15, 2010, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: "larab"
the only problem is that he doesn't look like Michael..at all.
I don't think so.

I totally agree.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: LOVESoldier28 on March 15, 2010, 02:36:56 PM
Look at this webpage I found about an old Maury Povich Celebrity Look Alike episode and see how so called seem to think the look alikes on the show are the real thing. They couldn't even tell the difference between the fake and the real thing. To those people on here thinking that MJ never used doubles on for This Is It can you be 100% sure you are definitely seeing only MJ the real deal? Because even with some very good impersonators a lot of so called fans can be fooled because fans seem to think they know their favorite celebrity and what they definitely look like and than they meet a fake and think its the real deal.

Check it out!!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1039793/ (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1039793/)
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Tina K. on March 15, 2010, 04:02:07 PM
:D Nobody convinced me. They all need " That ". The best was Angelina and Depp, the rest was sooo bad.
Title: Re: I think I found a double from TII and theres more!!!!
Post by: Avijackson on March 16, 2010, 12:31:56 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
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This is Christopher with out MJ make up, not that bad looking, anyway so would someone care to explain how he was at the rehersals ? :D




Definitively Cristopher must use too much maquillaje to be able to look oneself like Michael.  :lol:  :lol:   EnTII and in O2 is Michael. Sorry by my English.
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