Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: scorpionchik on August 26, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
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Hello guys.
My new french freind from France whom I met at FL in April, sent me an email with this photo attached asking if I know what brand the watch is and find out when it was sold for the first time. :roll:
Then she says it is ODD and important but why she would not explain because of her limited english. She says " On this picture , there is a waste basket! " I don't know what she means :D .
BTW, I sent her question about body fluid since she is a doctor, just to know her opinion.
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My guess is Rolex. I read somewhere that MJ liked them and purchased one shortly before his "death" in Las Vegas. I believe the store is located in "The Wynn" hotel and casino.
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I don't know the brand of watch...however, it does remind me of TIME DOTS............
L.O.V.E.
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Hello guys.
My new french freind from France whom I met at FL in April, sent me an email with this photo attached asking if I know what brand the watch is and find out when it was sold for the first time. :roll:
Then she says it is ODD and important but why she would not explain because of her limited english. She says " On this picture , there is a waste basket! " I don't know what she means :D .
BTW, I sent her question about body fluid since she is a doctor, just to know her opinion.
The 'waste basket' is a garbage bin:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/dustbin.jpg)
I don't think the watch is a Rolex, because as far as I checked Rolex doesn't have a model like that with 4 subdials.
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This is not a Rolex, this is from Jacob & Co. ;)
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Who's that?
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Who's that?
My thought exactly, but I didn't mention in because we would have another "double VS It's all Michael" thread in no time :lol:
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Who's that?
MichEAl Jackson...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Who's that?
Michael Jackson!
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
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Hello guys.
My new french freind from France whom I met at FL in April, sent me an email with this photo attached asking if I know what brand the watch is and find out when it was sold for the first time. :roll:
Then she says it is ODD and important but why she would not explain because of her limited english. She says " On this picture , there is a waste basket! " I don't know what she means :D .
BTW, I sent her question about body fluid since she is a doctor, just to know her opinion.
I hope it helps :
http://www.jacobandco.com/catalog.htm (http://www.jacobandco.com/catalog.htm)
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Is that a napkin he has on?? AWWWWWW SOOOOOOO CUUUUTE!!!!
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The picture is also rather magician looking........
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
maybe because he used his double in the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot.
(Of course, I'm being ironic.)
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
maybe because he used his double in the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot.
(Of course, I'm being ironic.)
No, I actually meant these shoulders:
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/rnbmusicblogdotcom/history_tour_51.jpg)
You can loose weight, but not shoulders. All the Jackson brothers have broad shoulders, the guy in the original post of this thread has very small ones, just like some of the MJ's in TII.
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[youtube:e3gjry8i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY&ob=av3e[/youtube:e3gjry8i]
Chappie
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
maybe because he used his double in the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot.
(Of course, I'm being ironic.)
No, I actually meant these shoulders:
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/rnbmusicblogdotcom/history_tour_51.jpg)
You can loose weight, but not shoulders. All the Jackson brothers have broad shoulders, the guy in the original post of this thread has very small ones, just like some of the MJ's in TII.
what is this time period? i have a lot of trouble keeping that straight :oops:
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That would be the Dangerous Tour (iam pretty sure) so 91 or 92 probably
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
maybe because he used his double in the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot.
(Of course, I'm being ironic.)
No, I actually meant these shoulders:
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/rnbmusicblogdotcom/history_tour_51.jpg)
You can loose weight, but not shoulders. All the Jackson brothers have broad shoulders, the guy in the original post of this thread has very small ones, just like some of the MJ's in TII.
what are you saying? are u comparing MJ : 1996 x 2007?
People grow old you know :)
(it is worse than compare MJ in the ebony photoshot (100% photoshop) with MJ in London!)
and when u suffers from lupus, things are worse... please souza! --'
just see another picture from this backstage...it's michael jackson, sorry!
what is this time period? i have a lot of trouble keeping that straight :oops:
1996/1997 - HIStory Tour!
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Hmmmm, I am missing some shoulders...
maybe because he used his double in the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot.
(Of course, I'm being ironic.)
No, I actually meant these shoulders:
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/rnbmusicblogdotcom/history_tour_51.jpg)
You can loose weight, but not shoulders. All the Jackson brothers have broad shoulders, the guy in the original post of this thread has very small ones, just like some of the MJ's in TII.
what are you saying? are u comparing MJ : 1996 x 2007?
People grow old you know :)
(it is worse than compare MJ in the ebony photoshot (100% photoshop) with MJ in London!)
and when u suffers from lupus, things are worse... please souza! --'
just see another picture from this backstage...it's michael jackson, sorry!
Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
@mjmakesmespeechless: it's the HIStory tour '96/'97.
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Really that pic is from the History tour? Wow i thought it was from Dangerous
Okay never mind!
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Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
ok then...Dr. House! :roll:
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Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
ok then...Dr. House! :roll:
Not a very nice reply. I give my argument, why are you reacting like that? If you say that lupus or age can make half of your body structure vanish, I'd like to see some examples of that.
Seal also suffers from Lupus, which is visible in his face, yet he still has his own body. I think your reply is unfair. You can disagree, but there is no need to roll your eyes as I have clearly argumentated my disagreement with you.
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Hello guys.
My new french freind from France whom I met at FL in April, sent me an email with this photo attached asking if I know what brand the watch is and find out when it was sold for the first time. :roll:
Then she says it is ODD and important but why she would not explain because of her limited english. She says " On this picture , there is a waste basket! " I don't know what she means :D .
BTW, I sent her question about body fluid since she is a doctor, just to know her opinion.
The 'waste basket' is a garbage bin:
I don't think the watch is a Rolex, because as far as I checked Rolex doesn't have a model like that with 4 subdials.
:lol: :lol: :lol: thanks. it IS in french. :lol:
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Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
ok then...Dr. House! :roll:
Not a very nice reply. I give my argument, why are you reacting like that? If you say that lupus or age can make half of your body structure vanish, I'd like to see some examples of that.
Seal also suffers from Lupus, which is visible in his face, yet he still has his own body. I think your reply is unfair. You can disagree, but there is no need to roll your eyes as I have clearly argumentated my disagreement with you.
what more can i say souza? don't you see... you are never wrong! then, i will just close my mouth for the safe of mankind!
when it's about health you can't just compare people as we were all equal. you don't know if he has any more health problems, i don't know ... and all the medicines he has to take! don't they affect the body over the years? IT'S MICHAEL JACKSON! Just look at his hand! i wonder if acording o you we've seen MJ sometime in our lives...
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Seal also suffers from Lupus, which is visible in his face, yet he still has his own body. I think your reply is unfair. You can disagree, but there is no need to roll your eyes as I have clearly argumentated my disagreement with you.[/color][/quote]
what more can i say souza? don't you see... you are never wrong! then, i will just close my mouth for the safe of mankind!
when it's about health you can't just compare people as we were all equal. you don't know if he has any more health problems, i don't know ... and all the medicines he has to take! don't they affect the body over the years? IT'S MICHAEL JACKSON! Just look at his hand! i wonder if acording o you we've seen MJ sometime in our lives...[/quote][/b]
:lol:
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:lol:
ok first of all, nice watch mike
2. Michael does suffer from lupus and it can effect a person body (Michael had it real bad)
3. You cant say his shoulder are small in this picture because of the angle.
3. That is Michael!
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Broad sexy shoulders
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/oct2009/9/3/image-7-for-michael-jackson-in-this-is-it-exclusive-pictures-gallery-942695418.jpg)
(http://www.hotreport.net/images/michael-jackson6.jpg)
(http://www.wornthrough.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-with-umbrella-299x300.jpg)
(http://ewhollywood.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/michael-jackson-singing_l.jpg?w=320&h=240)
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Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
ok then...Dr. House! :roll:
Not a very nice reply. I give my argument, why are you reacting like that? If you say that lupus or age can make half of your body structure vanish, I'd like to see some examples of that.
Seal also suffers from Lupus, which is visible in his face, yet he still has his own body. I think your reply is unfair. You can disagree, but there is no need to roll your eyes as I have clearly argumentated my disagreement with you.
what more can i say souza? don't you see... you are never wrong! then, i will just close my mouth for the safe of mankind!
when it's about health you can't just compare people as we were all equal. you don't know if he has any more health problems, i don't know ... and all the medicines he has to take! don't they affect the body over the years? IT'S MICHAEL JACKSON! Just look at his hand! i wonder if acording o you we've seen MJ sometime in our lives...
That again is not a nice reply. I don't know what the problem is, but I am only defending my opinion. I am always right? No, I am not. If you can show me otherwise I might reconsider it, but you don't. Yet you are attacking me now and for what? This is a discussion and we don't agree. We can either all shut our mouths and just don't post on the board anymore so this will all die down, or we can act mature and BOTH defend our opinion. Just throwing snarky remarks my way is not a mature discussion and I am sorry, but that disappoints me coming from you.
I have said many times that you don't just loose half of your bones, that your body structure and width dont just change. It's medically not possible. If you can show me that there is any way how that IS possible, then show me, so I would be able to see why you think that it is possible. But then again I look at the Thriller part in TII and The Way You Make Me Feel and there are the broad shoulders again.
I am sorry you don't agree with me, I can't help it, but it's also not my fault you can't come with good arguments to defend your own opinion. Don't attack me over it, we are both adults and this is not necessary.
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:lol:
ok first of all, nice watch mike
2. Michael does suffer from lupus and it can effect a person body (Michael had it real bad)
3. You cant say his shoulder are small in this picture because of the angle.
3. That is Michael!
HAD???
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:lol:
ok first of all, nice watch mike
2. Michael does suffer from lupus and it can effect a person body (Michael had it real bad)
3. You cant say his shoulder are small in this picture because of the angle.
3. That is Michael!
HAD???
HAs?
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Broad sexy shoulders
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/oct2009/9/3/image-7-for-michael-jackson-in-this-is-it-exclusive-pictures-gallery-942695418.jpg)
(http://www.hotreport.net/images/michael-jackson6.jpg)
(http://www.wornthrough.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-with-umbrella-299x300.jpg)
(http://ewhollywood.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/michael-jackson-singing_l.jpg?w=320&h=240)
Those are great pics!
Different angles can do wonders to what you look like no kidding
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[attachment=0:1c4d2g29]ankhjacket[1].jpg[/attachment:1c4d2g29] Is this the pic in question with narrow shoulders?
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[youtube:s2p62am1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY&ob=av3e[/youtube:s2p62am1]
Chappie
Keep WATCHin :mrgreen:
[youtube:s2p62am1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bbYBMJT_fQ[/youtube:s2p62am1]
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I went to the website to take a closer look at the watch and it is actually very interesting. It is the World GMT Limited edition. What I found interesting about it is the cities and countries that are on the watch. The first circle it had Los Angeles then on the opposite end was Dubai. On the second circle it has Las Vegas then on the opposite end was Mambua (Spelling?). It is connecting Michael to it in a way. Maybe they made this for MJ but is selling it to the public on a limited edition. It also had London, but I cant remember the other city. I am not able to copy and paste or take a screen shot. It has a copyright on it. I suggest you go to the page so you can see what I am talking about.
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[attachment=0:22ybuoin]ankhjacket[1].jpg[/attachment:22ybuoin] Is this the pic in question with narrow shoulders?
NO, READ THE QUESTION ON THE 1st PAGE. THAT QUESTION IS COLLATERAL. :lol:
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I went to the website to take a closer look at the watch and it is actually very interesting. It is the World GMT Limited edition. What I found interesting about it is the cities and countries that are on the watch. The first circle it had Los Angeles then on the opposite end was Dubai. On the second circle it has Las Vegas then on the opposite end was Mambua (Spelling?). It is connecting Michael to it in a way. Maybe they made this for MJ but is selling it to the public on a limited edition. It also had London, but I cant remember the other city. I am not able to copy and paste or take a screen shot. It has a copyright on it. I suggest you go to the page so you can see what I am talking about.
THANKS. GO TO WHAT PAGE? DO YOU KNOW WHEN WAS WATCH WORN MY MICHAEL?
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Broad sexy shoulders
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/oct2009/9/3/image-7-for-michael-jackson-in-this-is-it-exclusive-pictures-gallery-942695418.jpg)
(http://www.hotreport.net/images/michael-jackson6.jpg)
(http://www.wornthrough.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-with-umbrella-299x300.jpg)
(http://ewhollywood.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/michael-jackson-singing_l.jpg?w=320&h=240)
Those are great pics!
Different angles can do wonders to what you look like no kidding
I agree! Those are great pics. And I think in the pic in the OP, you can see that the way he's positioning his arm, causes his shoulder to slump forward a little, and also because we can only see his right shoulder not his left shoulder. is it possible to find any more pics from this day? i doubt it because it looks like a rare pic, but if it is then maybe we can see other angles and when his body is positioned normally, and then we can judge the broadness of his shoulders.
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Even if he would be a 100 years old, he would not have lost half of his bones. My grandpa is now 6"1' instead of 6"3', but he is an OLD man. Yet he still has the same broad shoulders as he had when he was 30 years old. You can't possibly change that. Lupus really doesn't change that. Besides that, his lupus was in remission as far as I am concerned.
ok then...Dr. House! :roll:
Not a very nice reply. I give my argument, why are you reacting like that? If you say that lupus or age can make half of your body structure vanish, I'd like to see some examples of that.
Seal also suffers from Lupus, which is visible in his face, yet he still has his own body. I think your reply is unfair. You can disagree, but there is no need to roll your eyes as I have clearly argumentated my disagreement with you.
what more can i say souza? don't you see... you are never wrong! then, i will just close my mouth for the safe of mankind!
when it's about health you can't just compare people as we were all equal. you don't know if he has any more health problems, i don't know ... and all the medicines he has to take! don't they affect the body over the years? IT'S MICHAEL JACKSON! Just look at his hand! i wonder if acording o you we've seen MJ sometime in our lives...
That again is not a nice reply. I don't know what the problem is, but I am only defending my opinion. I am always right? No, I am not. If you can show me otherwise I might reconsider it, but you don't. Yet you are attacking me now and for what? This is a discussion and we don't agree. We can either all shut our mouths and just don't post on the board anymore so this will all die down, or we can act mature and BOTH defend our opinion. Just throwing snarky remarks my way is not a mature discussion and I am sorry, but that disappoints me coming from you.
I have said many times that you don't just loose half of your bones, that your body structure and width dont just change. It's medically not possible. If you can show me that there is any way how that IS possible, then show me, so I would be able to see why you think that it is possible. But then again I look at the Thriller part in TII and The Way You Make Me Feel and there are the broad shoulders again.
I am sorry you don't agree with me, I can't help it, but it's also not my fault you can't come with good arguments to defend your own opinion. Don't attack me over it, we are both adults and this is not necessary.
Souza, if you had not noticed i TRIED to stop this when i said ''dr house'' ... for me it's very clear for more arguments that I have, you just don't want to see the obvious!
But if you want arguments (more than i already gave) i will give:
notice the angle of his body.. you can't see his body full as happens on history pic.
on the history tour one I believe he wears shoulder pads. They help to give more structure to his shoulders.
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4043/009michaeljacksonhistor.th.jpg) (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/009michaeljacksonhistor.jpg/) (http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1389/hi2f.th.jpg) (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/hi2f.jpg/)
His eyes... please.. i think i don't need to do comments about them!
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9765/eyest.th.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/eyest.jpg/) (http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/3751/rus2n.th.jpg) (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/rus2n.jpg/)
The large lapel makes him look small (imo). He also looks skinner than history tour (and i dont need to say..older lol)
I think some things are obvious.. Things that don't need a lot of explanation, but if you still believe that it's not him.. I respect your opinion! There are some things important to think about like angle and lighting. I learned it when i used to say wans't MJ in london(this was my thought till august/september.
Now i do believe that it was MJ in london! But i think it does not compare to this picture where imo it's obvious that it's him _ in london he was acting weird, he looked different but if you take into account lghting, angle, make-up and the importance of the press to the hoax (my belief) i do believe that was MJ:D )
Now if you are tryng to convice people that MJ double/twin has the same eyes, coloration of hands (same skin disease); hairline; nose; Cheeks. good luck! ... Klein does miracles! o_o'
and Back to the WATCH!
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I went to the website to take a closer look at the watch and it is actually very interesting. It is the World GMT Limited edition. What I found interesting about it is the cities and countries that are on the watch. The first circle it had Los Angeles then on the opposite end was Dubai. On the second circle it has Las Vegas then on the opposite end was Mambua (Spelling?). It is connecting Michael to it in a way. Maybe they made this for MJ but is selling it to the public on a limited edition. It also had London, but I cant remember the other city. I am not able to copy and paste or take a screen shot. It has a copyright on it. I suggest you go to the page so you can see what I am talking about.
THANKS. GO TO WHAT PAGE? DO YOU KNOW WHEN WAS WATCH WORN MY MICHAEL?
jacobandcompany.com go to the gmt watches and look for the one that MJ was wearing. I am not sure when he wore it or when it was made. I just found it interesting that those cities and countries were opposite of each other. i will try somehow to make a screen shot of it
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http://www.jacobandco.com/gmtw_8ssdc.htm (http://www.jacobandco.com/gmtw_8ssdc.htm)
Here is the link that takes you directly to it. If someone knows how to screen shot it, please do so. I just keep getting copyright message when I try it.
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http://www.jacobandco.com/gmtw_8ssdc.htm
Here is the link that takes you directly to it. If someone knows how to screen shot it, please do so. I just keep getting copyright message when I try it.
dayummm thats some serious bling of a watch!!! do work mike ;)
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Am I the only one who might be seeing some kind of connection to the design of this watch?
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http://www.jacobandco.com/gmtw_8ssdc.htm
Here is the link that takes you directly to it. If someone knows how to screen shot it, please do so. I just keep getting copyright message when I try it.
THANK YOU! THIS IS REALLY CHIC PRODUCT FOR KING! I WONDER WHY MJ NEEDED IT. I THINK WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH OR INQUIRY TO THE COMPANY AND FIND OUT WHEN MJ BOUGHT IT. I'LL GET TIME FOR THAT. WHAT IS ODD THAT THIS TYPE OF PERSONAL ACCESSORIES OF MICHAEL ARE NOT IN ACTION.
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Am I the only one who might be seeing some kind of connection to the design of this watch?
WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF CONNECTION?
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Am I the only one who might be seeing some kind of connection to the design of this watch?
WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF CONNECTION?
The connection is the cities that are on the watch. Los Angeles opposite Dubai (Michael stayed in both places) Las Vegas opposite Mubai(? spelling) (I believe that Michael visited there as well) London opposite cant remember the city name(Michael was suppose to stay in London) The connection is that Michael is wearing this watch with cities that he has either lived or visited or was planning on staying there. I wonder if it was made for him, since it was a limited edition watch. IDK, maybe I am looking too much into it and trying to find some kind of clue, somewhere.
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Am I the only one who might be seeing some kind of connection to the design of this watch?
WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF CONNECTION?
The connection is the cities that are on the watch. Los Angeles opposite Dubai (Michael stayed in both places) Las Vegas opposite Mubai(? spelling) (I believe that Michael visited there as well) London opposite cant remember the city name(Michael was suppose to stay in London) The connection is that Michael is wearing this watch with cities that he has either lived or visited or was planning on staying there. I wonder if it was made for him, since it was a limited edition watch. IDK, maybe I am looking too much into it and trying to find some kind of clue, somewhere.
You know what i noticed, your watch picture differ from the one I posted. There are 3 rotors from the right side and looks like one from left, on your picture watch has one on each side.
Tha is good your looking for clues, that's what we are here for. This is it!
http://www.jacobandco.com/h_24ssbl.htm (http://www.jacobandco.com/h_24ssbl.htm)
H24SSB
The cities are LA, NY, Moscow, London
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Those are great pics! Different angles can do wonders to what you look like no kidding
I agree! Those are great pics. And I think in the pic in the OP, you can see that the way he's positioning his arm, causes his shoulder to slump forward a little, and also because we can only see his right shoulder not his left shoulder. is it possible to find any more pics from this day? i doubt it because it looks like a rare pic, but if it is then maybe we can see other angles and when his body is positioned normally, and then we can judge the broadness of his shoulders.
here's some more pics from the same day :D
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Off topic, but...
Maybe because of the brightness of the photo? His fingernails do not look discolored at all.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12357)
download/file.php?id=12357 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=12357)