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Hoax Investigation => June 25, 2009 => The 911 call => Topic started by: patneela on August 18, 2010, 02:42:07 AM

Title: ambulance
Post by: patneela on August 18, 2010, 02:42:07 AM
What are the odds of getting a shockable rythm based solely off of movement from the ambulance? I am wondering if there is credible data (some numbers) to the chances of getting a shock-able rhythm from the AED based off of ambulance moving. I am just wondering because I know the filters in the AED are sensitive and I would think would have to be very capable.
Title: Re: ambulance
Post by: LadyMedic on August 18, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: "patneela"
What are the odds of getting a shockable rythm based solely off of movement from the ambulance? I am wondering if there is credible data (some numbers) to the chances of getting a shock-able rhythm from the AED based off of ambulance moving. I am just wondering because I know the filters in the AED are sensitive and I would think would have to be very capable.
They were not using an AED. The monitor the paramedics have has a defibrillator, which means the paramedics will analyze the rhythm on their own and then determine whether or not to shock. In my experience of defibrillating in a moving vehicle, it is very easy to determine whether or not the patient is in a shockable rhythm. It is true that movement can cause artifact, but not enough for the medic to think it's V fib or V tach instead of asystole. Lifepak 12s generally have less artifact than the Zoll that I use, and even Zoll isn't that bad.
You'll get artifact moreso from the patient moving or poor lead placement than the movement of the ambulance. 12-leads require the patient to be quite still, and I personally try to get one before we start moving. But in a cardiac arrest, you will not be doing a 12 lead (unless you obtain a sustained ROSC and have time to do one). And a regular 3 lead doesn't get much artifact from ambulance movement.
Title: Re: ambulance
Post by: mjboogie on January 08, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
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Title: Re: ambulance
Post by: ROFL on January 09, 2011, 11:17:58 AM
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