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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: MJJLives on December 11, 2009, 09:38:38 PM

Title: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: MJJLives on December 11, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
I love MJ and think he is handsome, but these photos are just creepy.  They are of "him" when he was in London for the O2 Announcement.  He just looks really strange, if it is him.

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/5xc4-x6y0e5/Michael+Jackson)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: dexember on December 11, 2009, 09:40:40 PM
They're at a bad angle. I'm sure he'd look much better if the camera was straight on.
I don't think they are "creepy" at all.  :|

And he's with his kids, of course it's him.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: hope on December 11, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Do you remember when they were saying that he had a prosthetic tip on his nose? look at his nose in those pics. I thought maybe it was the window, but they are all the same. I remember hearing form somewhere on this adventure, that when he "died", the tip of his nose was gone. :shock:
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 11, 2009, 10:03:58 PM
On another note...don't these photos prove this was really Michael at O2 once and for all?  I doubt his "double" would be in a hotel room holding his kids and waving to fans.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: MJJLives on December 11, 2009, 10:26:19 PM
Oh well, I was just making an observation.  It very well may be just an odd camera angle.  I just think everything about the O2 Conference was a little "off."
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: tiida11 on December 11, 2009, 10:45:17 PM
I'm still believing that it wasn't Michael at O2 arena. I have a strange feeling when i watch those images /photos and i haven't any paranormal features. Don't misunderstand me but i cannot recognize Michael there. Look at his teeth in the first pic: they look as they were adjusted by a dentist and Michael 's teeth and smile are different. What if he is with the children. If that person was a friend...what's the problem? Sorry, i believe in the doubles theory.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 11, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
Michael always waved at his fans through his hotel window.  We know the real MJ was in London, so why wouldn't he be the one doing the waving?  What would be the reason he would fake that too?  I also think his teeth are the same, but his lips are different and that changes his whole smile.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Mercurial on December 11, 2009, 11:08:51 PM
:| first time seeing this and err idk it just sort of looks weird to me as well.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: O-drey-O on December 11, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
I don't think it's creepy ... he seems to be happy and having fun with his kids ... :)
And their face not covered this time either...
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: FĂȘ.Brasil on December 11, 2009, 11:19:03 PM
What is that on his neck, appears to be a scar?
Very strange! :o
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Invincible7 on December 11, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
I think he looks amazing as always, it just a wrong angle...
And it`s him, of course, because even if it is the most incorrect angle completely distort his face, I always recognize his hands...his beautiful and delicate hands...
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Eva R on December 12, 2009, 01:55:05 AM
yeah he looks just great there! I just think he is so much smiling. (I am happy about that) but you know, when you look at for example the bashit docu, I think he also smiles but not so open you know. but here he just smiles so big! OMG, sorry I can't talk english so :P
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: becca26 on December 12, 2009, 02:11:48 AM
What is on princes left hand/wrist on the 11th photo?  :?
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: *Mo* on December 12, 2009, 02:38:36 AM
Unmasked kids...?
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: foreverking on December 12, 2009, 02:39:04 AM
Strange.....MJ went through so much to hide the faces of his kids, yet in London he pulls them to the window and has them wave?  It's almost as if the kids are validating that this is really MJ, look!  There are his kids.

I'm sorry, does not look like MJ to me. Looks like the guy at the O2 announcement, and the kids were shown without mask for a reason. All part of his plan. And what's up with the dark glasses in the hotel room.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Invincible7 on December 12, 2009, 03:08:23 AM
Quote from: "foreverking"
And what's up with the dark glasses in the hotel room.
The same as in almost all rehearsals for the film " This is it"
He likes the dark glasses even when all around is dark :ugeek:
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: topsecretgirl on December 12, 2009, 04:12:30 AM
Sorry but this doesn't look like him at all. His face looks so botoxed or something. And why now he shows the kids faces? If this is really him than the O2 guy was also him. I don't buy it.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Doreen on December 12, 2009, 04:15:14 AM
Look at photos 1,3 and 9, look at his neck I noticed same thing of person at 02 conference, its like he is wearing a mask which isn't lined up right. I thought maybe the lighting at the 02 conference but looking at these pictures I see same thing.
Has anyone thought maybe a Michael Jackson mark was put on someone for these pictures... remember Michael in Ghost , makeup mask etc.and of course whoever is pretending to be him could be with Michael's children in those pictures, whoever would not be a stranger at all
I could be wrong but I firmly believe because his neck doesn't look right at all
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Invincible7 on December 12, 2009, 04:22:36 AM
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
If this is really him than the O2 guy was also him. I don't buy it.
I bet those two are Michael and he is the only)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: tinker_bell on December 12, 2009, 04:54:17 AM
There's only one creepy thing on those pictures... and it's not Michael:

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/vnVbTnWT ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/vnVbTnWTYpJ/Michael+Jackson+Leaving+London+Hotel/VgcEvLp_U01/Michael+Jackson)


However O2 does look very different from any pictures i've seen before, it's more a feeling that I get, not really anything more substantial, that this might be not him... as for the children, indeed what a coincidence their faces being revealed just months/weeks before... but we also see them at a younger age (birthday pictures), those are the same kids...  :?
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Katrina26 on December 12, 2009, 09:20:57 AM
This O2 guy isnt Michael. Michaels smile is much more innocent and heartfelt. When i see these pics i have no special feeling, it means I have no need to scream "Michaeeeeeel!".Only if we see this O2 guy without sunglasses we could certainly say it is Michael. Why the glasses in hotel room? O2 guy is still wearing sunglasses, we have not only one pic without them.And yes, the children without masks with this guy are just a part of big plan, to make sure the public that this is real Michael. Children could be asked by Michael to play funny game- to show with this man as if he was their real dad (to help their dad with his plan).Why wouldnt they do it for their dad?
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Eva R on December 12, 2009, 09:23:01 AM
wth. If it wasn't Michael, why would the kids be there? yeah, maybe the real Michael was also there, but I think it is weird for those kids to know that Michael had someone that looks exact the same. I think it is Michael ;)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: larab on December 12, 2009, 09:31:06 AM
nothing creepy about the pics. I think he looks fine. his smile is the one thing that never changes :D
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: larab on December 12, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
oh come on!! we have seen the kids unmasked before. that was definetly not the first time we saw their faces.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: wandulka on December 12, 2009, 09:51:54 AM
He looks alright to me. Of course it was him at the O2.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: AgentBJ on December 12, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: "Katrina26"
This O2 guy isnt Michael. Michaels smile is much more innocent and heartfelt. When i see these pics i have no special feeling, it means I have no need to scream "Michaeeeeeel!".Only if we see this O2 guy without sunglasses we could certainly say it is Michael. Why the glasses in hotel room? O2 guy is still wearing sunglasses, we have not only one pic without them.And yes, the children without masks with this guy are just a part of big plan, to make sure the public that this is real Michael. Children could be asked by Michael to play funny game- to show with this man as if he was their real dad (to help their dad with his plan).Why wouldnt they do it for their dad?

I agree. Why shouldn't they do this? They are old enough to understand to play a game.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: mjgirl86 on December 12, 2009, 02:42:55 PM
I like what you all have said about the kids being shown, and how that's not Michael, because of this, and also because of the shades. Very good debunking and observations. Interesting...
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: angelshadow on December 12, 2009, 02:56:39 PM
I think by Make up or recent Beautys interventions looks more peculiar the face to the neck of course first,but just how with the O2 conference,only must admit I thought the children were to be seen shortly before his "deadly" so?
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 12, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: "tiida11"
I'm still believing that it wasn't Michael at O2 arena. I have a strange feeling when i watch those images /photos and i haven't any paranormal features. Don't misunderstand me but i cannot recognize Michael there. Look at his teeth in the first pic: they look as they were adjusted by a dentist and Michael 's teeth and smile are different. What if he is with the children. If that person was a friend...what's the problem? Sorry, i believe in the doubles theory.

I agree. 02's voice was completely different too  :)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: angelshadow on December 12, 2009, 03:08:42 PM
Yes the voice was looked differently, however, if one the Forschungs photos (we had in a contribution also here) one sees all signs MJs.
I think it was, nevertheless, he.

I wished we could see behind the sunglasses...
However, am Convinced this was MJ on the O2
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: MJJLives on December 12, 2009, 03:38:08 PM
In picture No. 7, I belive that is Blanket, right?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/XSzhyNkeFJ1/Michael+Jackson)

But who is the child in Picture No.11?  Is that  Blanket also?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/q5gz-2YRORk/Michael+Jackson)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on December 12, 2009, 04:03:13 PM
This is obviously the same Michael from the O2 conference but I have this strange feeling inside of me...his smile doesn't feel the same to me..I can't explain,it's just that Michael's smile touches me and I cannot feel it on the pictures.I hope you understand what I mean it's hard for me 'cause english is not my language.So now I'm confuse :shock: I'm back to square one  :roll: ,I'm starting to doubt again that the real Michael was at the O2 conference....I thougt that I already made my idea on that one...Maybe I'll have to compare with side by side pictures :(
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 12, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: "MJJLives"
In picture No. 7, I belive that is Blanket, right?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/XSzhyNkeFJ1/Michael+Jackson)

But who is the child in Picture No.11?  Is that  Blanket also?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/q5gz-2YRORk/Michael+Jackson)

It is Prince.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: angelshadow on December 12, 2009, 04:09:24 PM
Thus who of you saw these pictures before MJs "dead"?
Thus the children were shown already before of this year thus? Thought in June :roll:
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: MJJLives on December 12, 2009, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Quote from: "MJJLives"
In picture No. 7, I belive that is Blanket, right?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/XSzhyNkeFJ1/Michael+Jackson)

But who is the child in Picture No.11?  Is that  Blanket also?

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqi ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fpU-chqiZ6Z/Michael+Jackson+Hotel+Room/q5gz-2YRORk/Michael+Jackson)

It is Prince.

Okay.  That is who I thought it was.  He just looks a lot younger to me than he did at the Memorial and that was only 4 months before supposedly.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: angelshadow on December 12, 2009, 04:20:22 PM
I also said with a contribution in so short zeit the children have changed so also from the memorial (Staples centre) to burial and now...
Am myself mother, however this finds Change peculiarly...
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: MJJLives on December 12, 2009, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
This is obviously the same Michael from the O2 conference but I have this strange feeling inside of me...his smile doesn't feel the same to me..I can't explain,it's just that Michael's smile touches me and I cannot feel it on the pictures.I hope you understand what I mean it's hard for me 'cause english is not my language.So now I'm confuse :shock: I'm back to square one  :roll: ,I'm starting to doubt again that the real Michael was at the O2 conference....I thougt that I already made my idea on that one...Maybe I'll have to compare with side by side pictures :(

I go back and forth, also.  There are things that make me think it was really Michael at the conference, but then other things make me doubt.  I wish I could have seen him without his sunglasses.  Lately, it seems like he had them ALWAYS on no matter what.  I don't know why he wants to hide his beautiful  eyes. :(
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: angelshadow on December 12, 2009, 04:29:07 PM
Michael .... is sure for me, his behavior Was only turned up.
Light and Make up a wig .... This causes a lot  ;)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Lou on December 12, 2009, 05:03:17 PM
I liked the pics! He was wearing make-up, sunglasses and a different wig/ hairstyle, but we still can recognize his beautiful smile. ;)

MJ's smile:
[attachment=2:21gk2ihs]mj2.gif[/attachment:21gk2ihs]
MJ's smile:
[attachment=1:21gk2ihs]mj3.gif[/attachment:21gk2ihs]
O2 MJ's smile looks a bit different. Maybe it's just the angle, but IDK...
[attachment=0:21gk2ihs]mj4.gif[/attachment:21gk2ihs]
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: O-drey-O on December 12, 2009, 05:22:17 PM
We've all seen that when Michael was showing his kids before, their faces were covered. Even in their hotel room.  Not here, like in June. Coincidence?  Don't think so. Face uncovered only during This is It promotion...
Sorry but it's the only thing that strikes me.Not Michael's look (like I said in my previous post :))
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Kirsche on December 12, 2009, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
I liked the pics! He was wearing make-up, sunglasses and a different wig/ hairstyle, but we still can recognize his beautiful smile. ;)

MJ's smile:
[attachment=2:2b5fb8xt]mj2.gif[/attachment:2b5fb8xt]
MJ's smile:
[attachment=1:2b5fb8xt]mj3.gif[/attachment:2b5fb8xt]
O2 MJ's smile looks a bit different. Maybe it's just the angle, but IDK...
[attachment=0:2b5fb8xt]mj4.gif[/attachment:2b5fb8xt]


The nose in the first pic then the nose from O2-MJ...hm.
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: O-drey-O on December 12, 2009, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
The nose in the first pic then the nose from O2-MJ...hm.

I think it's due to a different angle and luminosity...
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: jm1lvmj on December 12, 2009, 07:21:09 PM
This is just my opinion.  O2 guy not MJ or not MJ as we know him.  We have all been conditioned into believing MJ changes his face at the drop of a hat.  Therefore, when we see a slightly altered MJ, we say yes that's him, I'd know him anywhere.  Look at the smile, at the nose, the eyes; but, do we really know what he actually looked like?  Then Mr. Klein reinforces all this by saying he'd been working on MJs face and et voila, we are reassured.  But, for me, not MJ.  I would be blind not to recognize the real MJ(btw, I do wear reading glasses). ;)
Title: Re: Have you seen these photos?
Post by: Katrina26 on December 13, 2009, 10:41:07 AM
I was looking at these pics again and I think that they are photoshoped.I still believe O2 guy isnt MJ, but even O2 guy wasnt photographed waving from window with children. That is why these pictures are so unnatural- they are few "3D". It seems like some window with curtain was photographed and then there was photoshoped O2 guy and then children, they are "pressed" between the window and the curtain.There is no space between window and curtain. So this is the answer why children are with this strange guy in one room. Some of you were questioning where is real Michael when this double is with children in a hotel room. - Its a good question and the answer is children really werent with O2 guy in that room.It is all photoshopped.
apologise my poor english
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