Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: q0txciityl0ve on December 11, 2009, 10:45:35 AM
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
LOL :lol:
absolutely right.
this is coming from a guy who couldn't keep his hormones to himself & his privates in his pants in a public bathroom...
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Puhleese. Who is GM trying to kid?
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[Puhleese. Who is GM trying to kid?/quote]
He should just zip his lips and get his own life on a handle.
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
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That's the pot calling the kettle BLACK, IMO. :roll:
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Michaels music got better but gm is right about it being surreal though
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
I couldn't agree with you more! I mean, Invincible and HIStory are my favourite but together with the other ones too, lol, but indeed many of the songs in these two albums are amongst his best ever! GM is really talking nonsense. Not only did MJ got better and better with every new project (and not just in the creation process, but as a singer/performer too), every new album presented a complete new sound, style, and message, a brand new Michael Jackson every time -plus the one he already was! How many popular artists are able to reinvent themselves in this way? None, to my knowledge! If i didn't know who G Michael was, i would have never thought that he was a musician...because his words reveal an extreme ignorance as regards musical understanding!
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I actually place some validity to GM's comments. Thriller was MJ's Mona Lisa. Every piece of work that Mj touched would forever be compared with that standard bearer. MJ would forever be competing with himself to top himself. Subsequent works were good but never matched the greatness of Thriller.
The litmus test is record sales and how the record buying public supports the finished product. To an ordinary performer the sales of Invincible would have been cause for celebration. To MJ, that was a disappointment hence the fallout and ongoing battle with SONY. During a 2002 Vibe magazine interview, MJ stated that he believed that the creativity on Invincible matched that of Thriller. However he saw the writing on the wall with the slower and lower record sales.
A perfectionist expects... at worst to match and ...at best to exceed... what has been done previously. MJ was faced with the inability to do either. Why it happened is a mystery. The fickle taste of music fans may be one reason. The growing popularity of other competing musical genres is another to consider.
After Thriller MJ was no longer just a regular musician who could live life and make music. He was Mj King of Pop and a superstar. He had more distractions following Thriller. Those distractions may or may not have contributed to his inability to raise his bar and move beyond Thriller's level of success.
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
Yes, yes. As Michael matured, so did his music & you could hear that. Thriller, yes...pure excitement, innocent type of love story. I love it, don't get me wrong. But albums like Invincible seriously put the cherry on top. Love (such as Butterflies, the amazing Whatever Happens), frustration on the media (such as Privacy), superiority (such as Threatened), family (such as You Are My Love)...that album was a masterpiece. it upsets me the album didn't get the attention it deserved because of Phony Sony. but it captured Michael's mentality as a person...not just any entertainer (like in Thriller).
i hope i worded everything out. please don't get the idea that Thriller isn't one of my favorites, because it is.
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Having had the honor and blessing to come up in the Thriller phenomenon, I have to say that for me it was truly a magical experience - one that I have yet to encounter again! Thriller is an anomaly which has never and likely never will be matched. In my heart I feel this is GOD's work through our angel Michael. It propelled him to the very top and has solidified him as the King of MUSIC!!! But it's not just the music, it's the heart and soul behind it which is pure gold - THAT is what makes the difference! Michael is able to spread his message of love all over the world like no other person and that began with the success of Thriller! No potential nor anything else was lost! I think you had to be there to know what exactly what I'm feeling! He is truly magical :D
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@Wilds: I completely agree with you. I was 9 years old when I was sitting at the dinner table watching MJ Moonwalk for the first time on Motown 25. He was already a star and that night made him a phenomenon: A phenomenon that transcended and withstood the test of time. GM couldn't manage to accomplish a fraction of this in the "sporadic" 10 year stretch that he should call "The Best Years of HIS Life" because he is pretty much NON-existent at this point.
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Having had the honor and blessing to come up in the Thriller phenomenon, I have to say that for me it was truly a magical experience - one that I have yet to encounter again! Thriller is an anomaly which has never and likely never will be matched.
Yes, I agree...the word magical is the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of the Thriller era as well. I feel so incredibly lucky to have been a kid during those years...it was an amazing time!! As much as I love his other albums, I don't see how he could have ever topped the excitement and awe that Thriller inspired. But that doesn't mean his talent faded by any stretch. I'm not sure GM meant what he said to come across as negative as it did, he probably just meant that MJ hadn't put out an album in almost a decade because of all the crap he had to endure with his celebrity...at least that's how I took it.
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
I agree with you I deff LOVE his earlier works, but his more resent stuff I listin to more, I fill this is coming from him and his outlook on things in his life and life in general. I can't wait to hear the stuff that is on lock down. :D
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I just wanted to add that anything Michael makes I love, I really do :D There are many songs on all of the albums from the Jackson 5 and on that I cherish <333 I discovered Off The Wall AFTER Thriller because I wasn't born when OTW was released but some of my all-time favs are from OTW. Thriller just put the mack-zap on me LOL!
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i am a huge george michael fan aswell as michael...i dont think he lost potential, but because thriller was as huge as it was, michael was always wanting to raise the bar and do better again..
but with the internet came the record sales slowing and the internet determines sales....
personally, even though i do love all michael's work, one of my favourites is the invincible album...
and with that album coming after the charges against him and lack of promotion by sony....the sales would have been alot more..
i will say though....george michael did endure a 3 year messy court battle with sony also :(
this goes off subject a bit, but mj 'died' on gm's birthday.....
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Who is George Michael?? :lol:
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I understand what he meant, but "lost potential" was not exactly the right way to express it.
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Is he trying to get back in the spotlight? It seems to me he is the one who lost potential :roll: I just read yesterday his friend Elton John released a statement saying he was very concerned about George Michael cos he admitted to use crack and cocaine, so he is not in the best position to talk about Michael I think :roll:
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
I think we ought to cut George Michael some slack. He kept his sexuality secret for many years under pressure from the music industry... this must have caused him a lot of emotional stress and the "public toilet" incident was a police entrapment procedure. I think it was awful how he went through that public humiliation... and as MJ fans we know how the press potray and hound and humiliate people for entertainment.
Yes George has had drug issues, but so has MJ which he has admitted to himself.
Just wanted to say that we shouldnt judge,.. and as MJ said himself "dont believe what the press print"
George certainly shouldnt be judged for his homosexuality. He was very brave to come out publicly and i applaud him for that. I dont think his homosexuality should come into the argument.
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I've always admired George Michael's voice and I can't believe he's already retired. He's too young. Probably he didn't express himself properly about MJ. Thriller was out of this world. I remember how it was constantly played whenever you went shopping. But Michael Jackson has written so many other songs, including the ones on the Invincible album, which I just discovered and really liked. The music industry has really changed. Today I asked a high school student I was tutoring (here in Italy) who her favorite artist was. She thought a good minute and couldn't tell me--she said that she liked pop music, that's all.
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
I think we ought to cut George Michael some slack. He kept his sexuality secret for many years under pressure from the music industry... this must have caused him a lot of emotional stress and the "public toilet" incident was a police entrapment procedure. I think it was awful how he went through that public humiliation... and as MJ fans we know how the press potray and hound and humiliate people for entertainment.
Yes George has had drug issues, but so has MJ which he has admitted to himself.
Just wanted to say that we shouldnt judge,.. and as MJ said himself "dont believe what the press print" Cut him some slack? Sorry but to try to pick up a guy in a public place and to cut slack for it-well you know the old saying that if you give someone enough rope they will hang themselves with it! I have nothing against his sexuality at all, in fact two of my dearest friends are gay guys who live together. But they are very discreet and faithful and value thier principles. What I think people find sickening is the morals (or lack of them) as indeed our British actor Hugh Grant was publicly slammed for picking up a Lady (I use this term loosely) of a certain proffession, and what about President Clinton and Monica Lawinsky? It is not the sexuality that people object to but the morals of people who are very much in the public eye and should set an example to all youngsters. They are willing to spend and live a lavish lifestyle and live in extreme luxury and enjoy fame but they cannot even behave in a dignified way. His homosexuality has nothing to do with it-it would be equally disgusting if he tried touching up a female in this manner. Also I think the very brave were those who did not lie and publicly admitted they were gay when it was less accepted and was in fact a criminal offence, take Quentin Crisp for example, he stood up and changed the whole outlook on gay rights. Watch the true story of him starring John Hurt-it is so very moving. -Quentin Crisp is the sort who should be applauded. And he was a true gent who always behaved in an impeccable manner.[/color]
George certainly shouldnt be judged for his homosexuality. He was very brave to come out publicly and i applaud him for that. I dont think his homosexuality should come into the argument.
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So sorry guys but he's right musically mj was done! He conquered the music circuit what did he have left to prove? Believe me guys im defending mj because really mj is and will always wow people with his music from the 70's 80's 90's to invincible! I was in vegas and "the way you make me feel" with mike on the flat screens the crowd was crazy like he was there?>??> Michaels creativity moved on from music from the controlling and crappy music companies.. michael wanted to do movies because michael could do michael not michael could do sony or motown, george michael cant hold anything to mike...he's a hater and of course he gets attention from bashing michael when mj cant reply.
beLIEve.
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I think we ought to cut George Michael some slack. He kept his sexuality secret for many years under pressure from the music industry... this must have caused him a lot of emotional stress and the "public toilet" incident was a police entrapment procedure. I think it was awful how he went through that public humiliation... and as MJ fans we know how the press potray and hound and humiliate people for entertainment.
Yes George has had drug issues, but so has MJ which he has admitted to himself.
Just wanted to say that we shouldnt judge,.. and as MJ said himself "dont believe what the press print"
George certainly shouldnt be judged for his homosexuality. He was very brave to come out publicly and i applaud him for that. I dont think his homosexuality should come into the argument.
not all of us mentioned anything on his homosexuality...? we talked about what he did, not whom he did.
So sorry guys but he's right musically mj was done! He conquered the music circuit what did he have left to prove? Believe me guys im defending mj because really mj is and will always wow people with his music from the 70's 80's 90's to invincible! I was in vegas and "the way you make me feel" with mike on the flat screens the crowd was crazy like he was there?>??> Michaels creativity moved on from music from the controlling and crappy music companies.. michael wanted to do movies because michael could do michael not michael could do sony or motown, george michael cant hold anything to mike...he's a hater and of course he gets attention from bashing michael when mj cant reply.
beLIEve.
your statement seems contradictory...
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Who is George Michael?? :lol:
exactly!
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this may sound crazy but George Michael?? who cares what he thinks ! he'll never have the followers mj has and he never did and never will do what mj has done ! these artists seem to forget this small fact from time to time :?
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Is he trying to get back in the spotlight? It seems to me he is the one who lost potential :roll: I just read yesterday his friend Elton John released a statement saying he was very concerned about George Michael cos he admitted to use crack and cocaine, so he is not in the best position to talk about Michael I think :roll:
YEAH HE IS I THINK HE IS RELEASING A CHRISTMAS SINGLE ,BUT BEFORE HE DOES THAT HE NEEDS TO SORT OUT HIS LIFE AND STOP SMOKING THAT WACCY BACCY :lol:
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ummmm GM says Michaels hits tapered as his popularity grew....when was GMs last hit. I also agree with someone earlier said that they thought his music got better as time passed....I know it is almost a sin against MJ to not say "Thriller" is my favorite but my favorite is Dangerous then Invincible-he was always at the top of his game.
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I used to like George Michael in his heyday, but over the years after his shenanigans with men in public toilets and being stoned in his car on a roundabout well! i think he should shut up and stop making a fool of himself! LOL!
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LOL, the comments are so funny about GM. I was dying laughing and almost choked. GM never really did anything for me. GM, your voice is not sexy-smooth voice like MJ. GM, your voice could never melt off a girl's knickers like MJ can. So take that GM. As far as MJ's records never being good beyond the 80's, GM listen to MJ's History, Dangerous, and Invincible. GM, MJ's Invincible songs are so sexy and so hot, any girl's knickers would melt off listening to this album.
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GM, MJ's Invincible songs are so sexy and so hot, any girl's knickers would melt off listening to this album.
ohhh girl, you got that right. "Break of Dawn"...in the middle of the night, RIGHT before you go to sleep...yup, Michael does a body good! :lol:
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GM, MJ's Invincible songs are so sexy and so hot, any girl's knickers would melt off listening to this album.
ohhh girl, you got that right. "Break of Dawn"...in the middle of the night, RIGHT before you go to sleep...yup, Michael does a body good! :lol:
OH yes-and Speechless....he has such a way of putting things.
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
I think we ought to cut George Michael some slack. He kept his sexuality secret for many years under pressure from the music industry... this must have caused him a lot of emotional stress and the "public toilet" incident was a police entrapment procedure. I think it was awful how he went through that public humiliation... and as MJ fans we know how the press potray and hound and humiliate people for entertainment.
Yes George has had drug issues, but so has MJ which he has admitted to himself.
Just wanted to say that we shouldnt judge,.. and as MJ said himself "dont believe what the press print"
George certainly shouldnt be judged for his homosexuality. He was very brave to come out publicly and i applaud him for that. I dont think his homosexuality should come into the argument.
i completely agree with you miss peppers..
he has had major problems with the press especially here in the uk, now especially with the drugs issues :(
i cannot believe he would critisise mj...maybe it was the way it was reported, we know what the press are like to twist things :!: :!:
he knows michael is a perfectionist and we know michael wouldnt release anything he wasnt completly satisfied, hence less releases than in the past...
i totally disagree with mentioning his sexuality which has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread... :x
they are two performers who have a heck of alot of talent at their work...they have alot in common
media being the main one...and as i mentioned in my last post here they both had big issues with sony..
george had a near 3 year very messy court case with sony.. :(
(im a huge gm fan aswell as mj)... :D :D
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This is ages old, but I was just browsing. I just had the thought the our friend GM didn't express himself quite correctly ...POTENTIAL is not something you lose from one day to the next. Either you have it or you don't, but it doesn't increase/decrease, the same as with talent. That's why it's called potential! Maybe he meant 'quality', but anyone with two good ears can tell that's not true :) I honestly think he didn't even know what it was that he meant...just saying!
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Who is George Michael to pass judgement on Michael like this? There was clearly nothing hampering Michaels creativity enough to prevent him from being the "King of Pop". At least our Michael didn't try to pick up individuals of the same gender for sex in a public toilet or roll and smoke a wacky baccy joint in his car in a public road in full sight. George is a has been whose days of fame are clearing in the history books. He knows nothing-is jealousy!
You got it. He has no right to talk about anyone and to say ANYTHING about Michael is such an insult. He should practice what he preaches!!!
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
Me too - I love his older voice. It's so mature and strong.
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GM, MJ's Invincible songs are so sexy and so hot, any girl's knickers would melt off listening to this album.
ohhh girl, you got that right. "Break of Dawn"...in the middle of the night, RIGHT before you go to sleep...yup, Michael does a body good! :lol:
OH yes-and Speechless....he has such a way of putting things.
My absolutely FAVE!!!
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George Michael, really?
Am I the only one who feels that MJ's music got better over the years? Everybody talks about his early music and Thriller. Although I like it all, I really think his music and lyrics only got better as he grew older. Invincible and HIStory happen to be my favorite.
No you are not the only one. I think Invincible IS Michael's best work. Invisible and History are MY favourite albums as well. Song from Invincible especially i think are the best representation of who Michael is
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I don't understand why we're even discussing this. :lol:
When I read George Michael's comments, the first and ONLY thought I had was "Well, he must have been one of the millions of people who didn't buy new MJ records because of all the bad press."
Like Mike said himself, "it's a conspiracy", one that unfortunately worked to an extent (in America especially).
But record sales do NOT equal brilliance. That is a load of BS. Don't take my word for it, all you have to do is turn on the radio.
He lost NO "creative brilliance", ever. That's not possible for a true artist, and especially not Michael Jackson. I don't say that because I've always been in love with him (which I have), I say that because I've STUDIED his work in depth, and continue to be completely nourished (as a fan and as a person) and inspired (as an artist) by all of it - ESPECIALLY his most recent work.
I am usually open-mined, but I feel very strongly that this is not up for debate :lol:
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I'm ok with George Michael I like him ;) I agree on this
Jackson's influence on the industry was massive and he made some incredible albums, especially in the '80s.
But his later albums were also incredible to me :D :D :D [/b]
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Having had the honor and blessing to come up in the Thriller phenomenon, I have to say that for me it was truly a magical experience - one that I have yet to encounter again! Thriller is an anomaly which has never and likely never will be matched. In my heart I feel this is GOD's work through our angel Michael. It propelled him to the very top and has solidified him as the King of MUSIC!!! But it's not just the music, it's the heart and soul behind it which is pure gold - THAT is what makes the difference! Michael is able to spread his message of love all over the world like no other person and that began with the success of Thriller! No potential nor anything else was lost! I think you had to be there to know what exactly what I'm feeling! He is truly magical :D
Anomaly is he, like a pearl of great price. I'm jealous of the people who were enjoying Michael in his prime years. I'm so happy in a way that Michael "died", because only then did I tap into his beauty, and my life has been changed. I feel confident that easy double triple or more of people would love everything he does and is, if they truly checked it out. Unfortunately there is a hurdle to get over for people; they have to get past his media image of weirdness, the accusations, the sexual actions he makes can seem provacative to many, and eccentricities to see the real him. I was just like them before--ignorant/not aware.
As for George Michael, he's talented, but a dime a dozen of regular musical talent, gay or not. People can say whatever they want about MJ, but he remains --The man, Invincible!
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If you want to talk about lost potential...While George Michael was out wanting someone's sex, MJ was reminding us to take a look at the "Man in the Mirror" and to "Heal the World". How much more brilliant can you get than that? GM should go study and take some notes. JMHO
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Well, yes, but I do think that his sexuality is not our business...We are not tabloid journalists here and I don't think the subject fits here. I don't like judging people...that is part of the 'man in the mirror' attitude, in my opinion :)
And yes, I also think this thread needs no more discussing 8-)
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George Michael is just an utter twat and moron these days
this is the idiot who paraded in a public toilet showing his testicles to a police officer and now regularly goes gay cruising in parks and then is too high to drive a car properly, regularly smashing into shops.
George should shut up.
George ought to take a look at his own music first.
George has never been able to match "Faith" from 1987, and never will. At Least Michael Jackson was honest with his fans and friends.
George hid in the closet for years and was scared to be himself.
George, you are true idiot, now shut up and stop taking drugs, you moron!
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I am not exactly a fan of George Michael... but i guess maybe he was also a victim of sony or Tommy or the mafia in general, i dunno. But, he had many problems with sony, and since then he started to have many problems that brought a negative image towards him... like how the child molestation accusations were really bad for MJ.