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Hoax Investigation => Multimedia => General Hoax Investigation => Twitter ~ Not verified but (probably) real => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 03:37:37 PM

Title: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 03:37:37 PM
My quote "The very rich and the very poor and the very famous all get the worst medical care" has been called one of the best quotes of 2009

http://twitter.com/awkmd (http://twitter.com/awkmd)

Is he having a laugh?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: larab on January 08, 2010, 03:44:12 PM
he is actually right..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
my interpritation

THE RICH

rubish plastic surgeries, dr feel goods on hand

THE FAMOUS

easily prescribed stuff, again dr feel goods, can't say NO to.. dodgy DR'S

THE POOR

put to the back of the list, can't afford treatment

therefore all get crapy care.. whereas your average joe takes it in their stride..  

PLUS HE'S ALSO SAYING HE'S A CRAPY DR.. COS HE TREATS THE RICH AND FAMOUS!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: onikoti on January 09, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
I really can't explain it but I actually like this guy..I watched his interview on TMZ (or should I say the half of it,cause it's rather difficult to understand him) and I must say I wasn't shocked  as some people.Of course he has a peculiar way to describe some events,but I had the sense that he was at least sincere about what he was talking about
and very smart too.And I believe he has no idea about the hoax.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 09, 2010, 01:26:51 PM
If you read the quote he is saying that he gave MJ the "worst medical care" and is, in fact, critisising himself!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alive on March 03, 2010, 03:56:24 AM
I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.

http://twitter.com/awkmd (http://twitter.com/awkmd)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MeandMyShadow on April 06, 2010, 07:07:34 PM
A tweet from Arnold Klein (not sure I spelled his last name correctly)


 
As Michael Jackson's physician for 25 years i can assure the world he could never self-inject. He was needle phobic

What do ya think?  Do you think it's true or is he just trying to save his own skin and trying to get everything to point to CM?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjssoulmate on April 06, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
I have always heard that Michael didn't like needles.  But, I guess, after having had several surgeries one might get used to them?  Do I believe he would have injected himself?  No way!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: tabloidburn on April 06, 2010, 07:44:46 PM
if i understood all that right, murray laid the iv and mike only had to attach the bottle to administer himself. i think that got the wrong wording when they keep writing 'injected himself'.
so arnold is right when he says that michael wouldn't inject himself. the iv was already there.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: bec on April 06, 2010, 10:29:20 PM
To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Steph16 on April 07, 2010, 07:24:53 AM
Hi everyone,

I found this on arnie klines Twitter and I thought it was a bit strange. It's probably been picked up by another member or it was reffering to before mike died but I thought I would post it anyway.

awkmd :I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.
about 1 month ago

peace out xxx
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MeandMyShadow on April 07, 2010, 08:38:32 AM
Quote from: "bec"
To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ballongiraf on April 07, 2010, 09:22:36 AM
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
Quote from: "bec"
To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.

no, that's not the point. The point is that there's no way he would be able to self-inject the remainder of the 200 ml propofol. Yes he could've drawn it up in a syringe as bec described, but once propofol enters your body, your out cold within seconds. He would not be able to stay awake long enough to inject all the remaining propofol. And, he was found lying flat on his back and the propofol bottle was no where near his hands. The IV was in his leg = he'd have to sit up and have the leg with the IV bended to reach the IV port, and taken how quickly propofol knocks you out, he wouldn't have time to self inject 200 ml propofol, put the bottle and syringe back and lie down flat on the bed.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: the arabian nights on April 07, 2010, 10:38:48 AM
he did not mention that on the TMZ interview have look - it lasts an hours so have a cuppa and some goodies nearby
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MeandMyShadow on April 07, 2010, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: "ballongiraf"
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
Quote from: "bec"
To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.

No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.

The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.

There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.

But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.

True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port.  So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle.  Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle.  But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.

Do I think he did that?  No, of course not.  But, that is only my opinon.

no, that's not the point. The point is that there's no way he would be able to self-inject the remainder of the 200 ml propofol. Yes he could've drawn it up in a syringe as bec described, but once propofol enters your body, your out cold within seconds. He would not be able to stay awake long enough to inject all the remaining propofol. And, he was found lying flat on his back and the propofol bottle was no where near his hands. The IV was in his leg = he'd have to sit up and have the leg with the IV bended to reach the IV port, and taken how quickly propofol knocks you out, he wouldn't have time to self inject 200 ml propofol, put the bottle and syringe back and lie down flat on the bed.

I totally forgot about how quickly the drug works.  You're right, how could he inject all that was left and not be knocked out.  Even if he tried, he might be able to get some of it, but not the whole thing, he'd pass out first, right?

Does anybody know where the syringe was found?  We know the bottle was under a night stand, but what about the syringe that was used to inject.  Supposing MJ or someone else did it?  Or even Murray.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjkate on April 07, 2010, 05:49:44 PM
isn't the syringe on ebay right about now
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjkate on April 07, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
seriously though thank you for this as i wondered if it would be possible.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mykidsmum on April 07, 2010, 06:02:01 PM
I said this before on another thread... If MJ woke up, he's gonna call for Murray not fumble around with a needle and vial while Groggy from waking up from being sedated and other sleepy pills How is he going to even sit up and put the crap in his own IV that is in his leg?  Has anyone ever woken up from anesthesia?  It aint happening! LOL
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 07, 2010, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: mykidsmum
I said this before on another thread... If MJ woke up, he's gonna call for Murray not fumble around with a needle and vial while Groggy from waking up from being sedated and other sleepy pills How is he going to even sit up and put the crap in his own IV that is in his leg?  Has anyone ever woken up from anesthesia?  It aint happening! LOL

That's my thought too. He's had people tend to his personal needs for years so it's highly unlikely that he'd wake up and just all of a sudden decide to do this himself even though that's supposedly what he was paying Murray to do. These stories are so silly they aren't even funny.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjssoulmate on April 07, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: "Steph16"
Hi everyone,

I found this on arnie klines Twitter and I thought it was a bit strange. It's probably been picked up by another member or it was reffering to before mike died but I thought I would post it anyway.

awkmd :I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.
about 1 month ago

peace out xxx

Klein twitted that after the "stun gun" incident.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 11, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
HOw is it possible to wake up from anesthesia and be clear enough to find a bottle and have it fixed throug the IV (which is impossible to do) I mean, when you wake up from anesthesia, your brain needs a few minutes to remember where you are. But Michael is so strong that he managed to find out he didn't sleep enough, stand up, find the bottle, prepare the needle (I use needle and they are all in separate package) hav the product inside the syringe, be able to grab his leg to push propofol, AND stay awake while injecting the whole bottle ? Whereas everybody knows that with such product you're out in a few seconds...

And if he was "coke" addict, which means he drank about 5/6 liters a day...how could he be able to get anesthesia without vomiting ? :|

If Michael is really dead and had all this propofol in his body...it's surely not a sefl injection.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjkate on July 11, 2010, 04:54:58 PM
This may have been posted but didn't see it so thought I would share.

From Arnold Klein;
Michael as Budda said, you are a man who spoke & acted with a pure thought. happiness will always be with you like a shadow that never leaves
9:50 AM Jun 25th via web ( i am also wondering if this time 9:50 means something. Arnie himself said on TMZ live that his office (Jason) received a call in the morning that morning that described an event that led to the propofol being administered. He has never elaborated even though Harvey promised to have him back so he could )  

I know this tweet could apply in to someone in death however it is in present tense and even though I have shaken my head at Arnie a lot...this comment is coming from someone who knew Michael so well and for so many years and who had been with Michael through some of his most trying of times...to consistently be someone who speaks and acts with a pure thought is difficult enough for the average person to achieve let alone some one who had been through so much and has seen the most sad sides of life (the orphanges, the early j5 seedy stuff and the joe beatings.) Micahael is very rare....which is why I think we can't bear to have had him here with us and then to have had him slip away.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 12, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
Your words are so true. It is an interesting tweet don't you think? It is not coming from a sad or scared person in my opinion. To me it sounds like he's amazed at what Michael is doing - but not in a bad way. There's no way Michael could be acting in clarity of thought and be on drugs at the same time...those two words are contradictory. I think Dr Klein knows the real truth and he's a willing decoy.

Edit: and 9:50 am. Isn't that just before they say Dr Murray was making his phone calls?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 15, 2011, 08:16:02 PM
Quote
awkmd Arnold Klein
Michael Jackson was not ahead of his time, He made the time.

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/59027294982897665 (http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/59027294982897665)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: suspicious mind on April 15, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: "alive"
I am appalled at what is happening at the Jackson household. This is why I went to court - Michael made me promise to look after the kids.

http://twitter.com/awkmd (http://twitter.com/awkmd)

michael made him promise when and why?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on April 15, 2011, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote
awkmd Arnold Klein
Michael Jackson was not ahead of his time, He made the time.

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/59027294982897665 (http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/59027294982897665)

Interesting.

I wonder if this was a reference to the "TIME DOUBTS" from:    

TIai update #6.5: Michael & Elvis, DOUBle-scam from TS??

Like Arnie is saying Michael is in total control of this hoax, down to the minute.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: finfin on August 07, 2011, 08:17:12 AM
Arnie has been frantically tweeting about Michael

https://twitter.com/#!/awkmd

awkmd Arnold Klein
was L \\ Was Michael Sober when he resigned with Branca?
3 hours ago

awkmd Arnold Klein

blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/06/m… where are the real wills of Michael Jackson?
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2009/06/michael_jackson_al_malnik_mottola_sony_beatles.php
4 hours ago
»

awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/person/harvey-… levin almost caused oj simpson's charges to be dropped
http://www.tmz.com/person/harvey-levin
4 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/GcmbhXjlVik Michael hated Sony and Branca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcmbhXjlVik&feature=youtu.be
4 hours ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/GcmbhXjlVik Branca=Sony Michael Sony
4 hours ago
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 07, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Arnie is absolutely right in his thoughts about care by class.  The very rich, the very famous are subject to being so over prescribed medications giving no considertion for the possible negative side effects of mixing and any other consequences.  They are granted procedures and tests and anything else at a whim whether the doctor instinctly knows it could be dangerous, is unnecessary or might have a negative outcome because doctors are greedy and can’t fathom their client going to someone else to get them what he refused to give.

The poor on the other hand are often under prescribed and not referred for further treatment or testing even when it could possibly save their lives for the exact opposite reasons.

EVERYTHING IS FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY.  THEREFORE NOTHING’S SACRED
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: RK on August 07, 2011, 09:27:09 AM
I was following the links in Arnie's tweets and one took me to an article about Malnic and the falling out Michael and he had and then on the page was a link to a private investigator named
Gordon Novel, who when I clicked on the link, all info on the wiki page regarding this man had been deleted by a person named 'orangemike'.
It must be way past my bedtime, because Gordon Novel reminds me of La Toya's book or novel about Jack Gordon.   :?
That is a good video Arnie linked to about Branca, Sony, and their saboutage of Invincible.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: katooooooo on August 17, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
 :shock:
 awkmd Arnold Klein
Joan boocok Lee,Mrs Marvel, told me of her long iphone chats with MJJ yesterday
3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Yesterday??
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MJonmind on August 17, 2011, 06:21:07 PM
The telling was yesterday but the chats were when MJ was alive presumably--unclear sentence structure.

Very interesting about Klein and Branca--we're no further ahead if they are friend or foe. :?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Sweetangel on August 20, 2011, 11:55:20 AM
Hello MJonMind,
I believe they are Friends. They know each other since the early 80. I read some where that Michael  fired Branca in 2003, because Marc Schaeffel said that Branca would betray him. Michael hired a Company to investigating Branca, but the Company couldnt find any wrongdoing on Branca's Site. They worked together till 2006. Than Branca left Michael. When this whole Thing
is a Hoax, than Michael would need someone he can trust beyond a shadow of a Doubt. He would need someone who knows
the Law very well. Why do you think the Deadcertif., the Autopsiereport and other Documents say Joseph and not Joe. Maybe
it is because a Person who isn't exist, can't die so it wouldn't be a crime. And at least Michael would need someone who knows
the Musicbusiness very good and how to make great Deals. And Branca can do all of this.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 21, 2011, 11:43:14 AM
He’s at it again  lolol/

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: bec on August 21, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
Oh NOW Klein cares about HIPAA laws?

Oh please.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: _Anna_ on August 21, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
what does this mean? He says the records were illegally released and he says: "How did TMZ get a copy of michael jackson's records?"  and shouts out this is a federal crime and everything was done as to cover the truth? Really what is he saying? To cover the truth? What truth is he talking about? How can a released record which is supposed to be legal cover the truth? I simply don't understand what is this SCHMUCK  trying to say. He must be up to his neck engaged in dirty stuff and no one's gonna get this out of my mind and logic

Another twitt

How did TMZ get Private medical records of mine on Michael jackson and no other docs?
3hours ago
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 21, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
Earlier posted - Did not see it in timeline for new posts :?:

He’s at it again 

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 21, 2011, 02:06:04 PM
latest tweet - right now

awkmd Arnold Klein
i have reported the illegal release of MJJ records. I now know who released them. tomorrow i will report it
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: _Anna_ on August 21, 2011, 02:09:58 PM
This all coming from the same person who told the nonsensical bullshit about peeing in cups, I don't believe anything this man says.

BACK 6th of nov 2009

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1059/21408069.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/21408069.jpg/)

No need to say anything else. It's a matter of time
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MJonmind on August 21, 2011, 02:33:54 PM
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Earlier posted - Did not see it in timeline for new posts :?:

He’s at it again 

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd (http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd)
What a total cracked record, frantically saying the same thing like 50 times. How does he think that will help? Just sounds corny!
Michael's alive, so it seems to me that it may be MJ himself that had the records released to stir the pot.
But is Klein in the know or not, that is the question. When I read Back, it would seem he is not.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on August 21, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
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This all coming from the same person who told the nonsensical bullshit about peeing in cups, I don't believe anything this man says.

BACK 6th of nov 2009

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1059/21408069.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/21408069.jpg/)

No need to say anything else. It's a matter of time

 
 
Interesting, already we will see for that Arnie this one scared and desperate. 8)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: PureLove on August 21, 2011, 04:26:51 PM
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Earlier posted - Did not see it in timeline for new posts :?:

He’s at it again 

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd (http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd)
What a total cracked record, frantically saying the same thing like 50 times. How does he think that will help? Just sounds corny!
Michael's alive, so it seems to me that it may be MJ himself that had the records released to stir the pot.
But is Klein in the know or not, that is the question. When I read Back, it would seem he is not.

Actually I do believe that there's something fishy with Arnie. He doesn't know about the hoax if you ask me and probably he is one of the doctors who is fuelling celebrities with drugs and he can be in the list of doctors that the FBI is following. And maybe Michael became a patient of him on purpose to prove how Klein handles the drug issue. This can be far fetched but we do not know how long Michael has been working with the FBI.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 24, 2011, 02:24:16 AM
http://twitter.com/awkmd



awkmd Arnold Klein
One was friendly with the King of Bahrain and one was a doctor. Why have they not been questioned by the Judge or Authorities?

 awkmd Arnold Klein
two Lebanese Americans were up at the house and knew what was happening. Why aren't they questioned?

 awkmd Arnold Klein
I am a scape no more. Who hired Murray? Who bought his equiptment?

 awkmd Arnold Klein
Branca + Weitzman r friends with Harvey who prevents people from knowing the truth.

 awkmd Arnold Klein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7KnN2Lseg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7KnN2Lseg&feature=youtu.be) How Sony and Branca sabotaged MJJ

 awkmd Arnold Klein
Harvey created a lie and you believed it. you believed Michael molested children too....they are all lies

 awkmd Arnold Klein
What TMZ said was wrong and I will prove it. Harvey is News of the Day in America!

 awkmd Arnold Klein
TMZ released private confidential

 awkmd Arnold Klein
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/08/06/its-getting-even-weirder.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/08/06/its-getting-even-weirder.html) Michael had a cease and desist against him so why Levin let him speak?

 awkmd Arnold Klein
Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly recognizes genius." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 1915
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on August 24, 2011, 04:12:35 AM
I am always amazed about the fact some ppl use twitter to express their feelings about the trial  ???/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: PureLove on August 24, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
Arnie Arnie Arnie.... You scared shitless!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: finfin on August 28, 2011, 02:37:32 PM
Latest tweets from Arnold  - please read from the bottom up  suspicious// :-

https://twitter.com/#!/awkmd

awkmd Arnold Klein
@DebLooney someones death never makes sense. Who hired Murray, who paid for the drugs?
awkmd Arnold Klein

Michael had the best Doc's, why Murray?
15 hours ago
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awkmd Arnold Klein
mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/03/anthon… I had my recorda reviewed, Cochran wanted to settle not Weitzman
http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/03/anthony-pellicano-michael-jacksons.html
15 hours ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
nytimes.com/2003/11/17/nat… pelicano and weitzman worked together-- want you to think badly about mjj
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/17/national/17HOLL.html
16 hours ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/… pelicano lies
19 hours ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

awkmd Arnold Klein
theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/… Please do not believe this trash!
19 hours ago
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/08/anthony-pellicano-talks-murdoch-michael-jackson-and-mafia/40957/

awkmd Arnold Klein
Do not trust anything Bashir says Michael told me
21 hours ago
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Michael was frighten of B Walters,said she was hostile. She hosted the Bashir piece
21 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

awkmd Arnold Klein
n.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson Martin Bashir bought MJJ from Uri Geller for around 50K to do the destructive interview.


21 hours ago
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 28, 2011, 02:44:31 PM
One thing I agree: Michael had the best docs, why Murray suspicious// ?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on August 28, 2011, 08:48:21 PM
This trial promise so much ...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on October 23, 2011, 09:20:33 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
https://www.facebook.com/arnold.klein When did Michael become dependent on Propofol?
3 minutes agoFavoriteReply

awkmd Arnold Klein
Please Watch "Extra" this week....the truth will begin.16 minutes agoFavoriteReply
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Who bought the Propofol,paid Murray and bought the medical equipment? I know do you?
18 minutes agoFavoriteReply
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awkmd Arnold Klein
May 2009 Klein in Paris...How could Jackson see him 3x week.
19 minutes agoFavoriteReply
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Coco on October 23, 2011, 11:16:41 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
https://www.facebook.com/arnold.klein When did Michael become dependent on Propofol?
3 minutes agoFavoriteReply

awkmd Arnold Klein
Please Watch "Extra" this week....the truth will begin.16 minutes agoFavoriteReply
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Who bought the Propofol,paid Murray and bought the medical equipment? I know do you?
18 minutes agoFavoriteReply
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awkmd Arnold Klein
May 2009 Klein in Paris...How could Jackson see him 3x week.
19 minutes agoFavoriteReply

Dun, dun, dun... rr/

Also, I reckon Arnie might know that something is going on/not quite right.
I wonder what his role in all of this is?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: msgitm on October 24, 2011, 12:22:13 AM
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he is actually right..
I agree!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: underthemoon on November 02, 2011, 02:33:25 AM
I see that Arnie Klein linked to this forum to the treat : Is Conrad Murray Robert Earl Carter.

 /pull hair/ i can not post a link  /pull hair/ sorry, but this new forum kills my pc..... bangbang bangbang bangbang



Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 02, 2011, 02:37:44 AM
What do you mean? Where can I find this link?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 02, 2011, 03:53:36 AM
oh, I can see it now  afraid/ afraid/

Arnie has twitted this link:

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/arnie.jpg)

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/131634752187924480
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: skysammy on November 02, 2011, 04:07:51 AM
Wowza....He shouldn't do that if Michael is gone..Well only he knows his truth but anywhoo..
Hello Arnold 8-)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: underthemoon on November 02, 2011, 04:19:24 AM
wow he linked the second time to us !
I mean the post before....i don't know why i can't put a link in my post since the forum changes....he linked to the treat that Conrad Murray can be Robert Earl Carter and write that will blow up your mind !
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 02, 2011, 04:33:25 AM
So does Arnie think MJ is alive?...that explains him retracting his Jason story and sucking up to MJ...oh he is probably sweating right now...Hi Arnie, how many degrees is it where you are?...lol
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 02, 2011, 04:35:59 AM
here it is

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/arnie2.jpg)

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/131604348756180993
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on November 02, 2011, 04:40:35 AM
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oh, I can see it now  afraid/ afraid/

Arnie has twitted this link:

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/arnie.jpg)

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/131634752187924480




there is also another reference to the forum it gives a link  followed by    "THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND"!  afraid/   (this tweet is about 4 below the one featured)  :shock:   ops double post we must have done it about the same time you can delete mine please dont know how to do that :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 02, 2011, 04:44:04 AM
Can anyone put the links to the threads he posted? It seems Arnie blocked me :lol:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 02, 2011, 04:47:19 AM
What does he link to forst, I can't see his tweets cause he protected them and I don't have twitter....thanks so much forst for putting them up and underthemoon for posting this.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 02, 2011, 04:48:25 AM
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Can anyone put the links to the threads he posted? It seems Arnie blocked me :lol:

link 2
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=3119.0
his comment: dishonesty,no loyalty,greed,arrogance rules

link 1
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=3119.0
 his comment: this will blow your mind
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 02, 2011, 05:09:44 AM
He acts really strange, esp. since trial started.

Either he's really, really scared.
Or nutty.
Or "nutty".
Or I have no idea what, but he is unusual character in all that for sure smiley_spider .
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: nick_93 on November 02, 2011, 05:23:23 AM
So he's linking people to our forum and he's not shooting us down for beLIEving MJ's alive but only for a particular topic/post? And we don't even know what he really thinks about that post. Maybe that post is correct and he's linking to it for a reason. bounce/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 02, 2011, 05:39:51 AM
Oh dear...... :-\ errrr :?:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on November 02, 2011, 08:09:34 AM
So Arnie klein was shooting MJ up with high and higher doses of Demerol for no reason and nobody ever mentions it?   First, he should be in jail for having false records and for overdosing at least one patient (if this is even true)... /pull hair/ /scream/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 02, 2011, 08:15:06 AM
Kinda funny....I added him to my twitter about 4 days ago..and have been sending him little tweets...I have no clue if he can see them or not!!!

Now this????   YEE HAW~~  You're my new fave friend Arnie
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 02, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
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here it is

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/arnie2.jpg)

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/131604348756180993




The protects their tweets,.. why that interest suddenly in this forum that you want to say with those messages? Or to try to divert attention

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 02, 2011, 08:26:56 AM
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Kinda funny....I added him to my twitter about 4 days ago..and have been sending him little tweets...I have no clue if he can see them or not!!!

Now this????   YEE HAW~~  You're my new fave friend Arnie
  OH, did you notice that that topic he mentioned has a couple GUEST comments????  HUMMM??
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
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Can anyone put the links to the threads he posted? It seems Arnie blocked me :lol:

link 2
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=3119.0
his comment: dishonesty,no loyalty,greed,arrogance rules

link 1
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=3119.0
 his comment: this will blow your mind

So, he posted the same link twice but gave different comments to them? This is great - thanks for sharing!

Could it be that Dr Klein does know but that he's one (along with LaToya) who is trying to get the nonbelievers to look a little deeper?

blessings :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 08:38:22 AM
Oh my gosh - he just posted a link to William Wegeners site..and you guessed it - it's also about Robert Earl Carter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=youtu.be

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/FHQ9vfqwc7M now is the time you learn who your friends our!
6 hours ago Favorite Reply

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]


He just did it again - posted the same link but put different comments. He posted the link to Robert Wegener's video above with the following tweet attached:

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vf… please look how we overpay our judges and how AEG changed the law
5 hours ago
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 02, 2011, 08:47:17 AM
I can't watch that video out here in the country with this damn satellite...anyone tell me about it and what we need to know from it about the trial or what Arnie is wanting us to know!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 08:49:22 AM
What is this supposed to mean? Have we seen this picture before? I know I haven't...and by the way, MJ looks awesome!

awkmd Arnold Klein
herb ritts pic.twitter.com/kLTK4z2
2 hours ago Favorite Reply


Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 02, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
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What is this supposed to mean? Have we seen this picture before? I know I haven't...and by the way, MJ looks awesome!

awkmd Arnold Klein
herb ritts pic.twitter.com/kLTK4z2
2 hours ago Favorite Reply

the photos are not recently published, as I remember correctly Herb Ritts directed "In the closet" and did some photo sessions with MJ.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ilovemjforever on November 02, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
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Oh my gosh - he just posted a link to William Wegeners site..and you guessed it - it's also about Robert Earl Carter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=youtu.be

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/FHQ9vfqwc7M now is the time you learn who your friends our!
6 hours ago Favorite Reply

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]


He just did it again - posted the same link but put different comments. He posted the link to Robert Wegener's video above with the following tweet attached:

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vf… please look how we overpay our judges and how AEG changed the law
5 hours ago
wtf,what could he possibly mean by this,AEG changed the law,he acts as if he knows something,hmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 09:02:13 AM
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I can't watch that video out here in the country with this damn satellite...anyone tell me about it and what we need to know from it about the trial or what Arnie is wanting us to know!!

William Wegener reiterates in his video that Dr Murray is not Dr Murray but Robert Earl Carter and that he changed his name before he started treating Michael. He said that nobody in Houston hospitals seem to know who Dr Murray is and that he isn't known in the other places that he's supposedly practiced medicine.


Sidenote: Michael would have known this, correct? Because Michael "supposedly" was treated by Dr Murray before he changed his name....

Okay - Willaim also shows the court piece where  Flanagan says "he is a doctor isn't he?" and he also tells of all of the things Dr Murray did wrong (i.e., one handed chest compressions, CPR on bed, etc).

William also says that he went to the medical college that Dr Murray supposedly attended and his is not listed there. He goes on to question why he would change his name before starting work for Michael.

What is funny is that he's still assuming that Michael is dead. Maybe he's now become suspicious about this being a hoax but feels he needs to stay middle of the road for those that don't believe? IDK but it's funny that he never once said - we have options:

1) Dr Murray is not a doctor
2) Dr Murray is hiding a sordid past and changed his name to run from the law
3) Dr Murray is a doctor who has a past that he's trying to run from
4) Michael is still alive and Dr Murray changed his name to fit the hoax :)

By the way, I didn't get through the whole video as I have to get to work. But I think I got the major theme of the video.

Blessings to you  /woohoo/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
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What is this supposed to mean? Have we seen this picture before? I know I haven't...and by the way, MJ looks awesome!

awkmd Arnold Klein
herb ritts pic.twitter.com/kLTK4z2
2 hours ago Favorite Reply

the photos are not recently published, as I remember correctly Herb Ritts directed "In the closet" and did some photo sessions with MJ.

Thanks Forst :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 02, 2011, 09:08:05 AM
Wow, this will blow everybody's mind.. Imagine if he read the post about his green jacket?  lolol/ lolol/ that would be priceless.. I agree that he must have retracted his words about Michael being gay being lovers with his employee, whom ever he is.. I am not so sure that he knew that Michael would have faked his death, he was not in the plan.  Arnie keep it coming.. This is amazing.. If he did not believe in this forum, he wouldn't have posted it in his twitter..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 09:08:25 AM
Here are a few other tweets from earlier that are interesting.

awkmd Arnold Klein
@CarrieFFisher general-medicine.jwatch.org/cgi/content/fu… ask Carrie, Michael's insomnia was created my Murray and doc like him
31 Oct Favorite Reply
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
Demerol addiction develops when the drug is used regularly for a long period of time...not at the doses i prescribed. you need real experts
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
abcnews.go.com/Health/Michael… schaffle you know better, i intervened on Propofol addiction.
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… this trial is a sham controlled a AEG
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… what of the hipaa violation
31 Oct
Arnold Klein


awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… records used in court are not mine
31 Oct
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 02, 2011, 09:09:19 AM
By the way thanks for posting those pictures of Michael, I have never seen them, he is hot hot hot.. I sound like a teenager  lolol/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 09:11:01 AM
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Wow, this will blow everybody's mind.. Imagine if he read the post about his green jacket?  lolol/ lolol/ that would be priceless.. I agree that he must have retracted his words about Michael being gay being lovers with his employee, whom ever he is.. I am not so sure that he knew that Michael would have faked his death, he was not in the plan.  Arnie keep it coming.. This is amazing.. If he did not believe in this forum, he wouldn't have posted it in his twitter..

If Dr Klein is not part of the hoax what do we make of his "pee in the cup" story to TMZ? Another crazy story?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 02, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
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Here are a few other tweets from earlier that are interesting.

awkmd Arnold Klein
@CarrieFFisher general-medicine.jwatch.org/cgi/content/fu… ask Carrie, Michael's insomnia was created my Murray and doc like him
31 Oct Favorite Reply
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
Demerol addiction develops when the drug is used regularly for a long period of time...not at the doses i prescribed. you need real experts
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
abcnews.go.com/Health/Michael… schaffle you know better, i intervened on Propofol addiction.
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… this trial is a sham controlled a AEG
31 Oct
Arnold Klein

awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… what of the hipaa violation
31 Oct
Arnold Klein


awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… records used in court are not mine
31 Oct


tmz.com/category/conra… this trial is a sham controlled a AEG

Would AEG be in the hoax?? I don't think so.. Trial is a sham hoax....
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 02, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
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Wow, this will blow everybody's mind.. Imagine if he read the post about his green jacket?  lolol/ lolol/ that would be priceless.. I agree that he must have retracted his words about Michael being gay being lovers with his employee, whom ever he is.. I am not so sure that he knew that Michael would have faked his death, he was not in the plan.  Arnie keep it coming.. This is amazing.. If he did not believe in this forum, he wouldn't have posted it in his twitter..

If Dr Klein is not part of the hoax what do we make of his "pee in the cup" story to TMZ? Another crazy story?

I don't feel that Michael was close to Dr. Klein, to devolge his hoax.. This is just a feeling I feel. He is Michael's doctor, probably Michael did pee in a cup and he saw him.. Still I do not believe Michael would have peed in a cup, unless to have his urine tested like any normal human being..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 02, 2011, 09:20:41 AM
Thanks for the recap of the video :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 02, 2011, 09:28:17 AM
Published by Anna

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=profile;u=4629;area=showposts;start=275




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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 09:32:34 AM
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Oh my gosh - he just posted a link to William Wegeners site..and you guessed it - it's also about Robert Earl Carter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=youtu.be

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/FHQ9vfqwc7M now is the time you learn who your friends our!
6 hours ago Favorite Reply

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]


He just did it again - posted the same link but put different comments. He posted the link to Robert Wegener's video above with the following tweet attached:

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vf… please look how we overpay our judges and how AEG changed the law
5 hours ago


This made me sit up and respond...In reading the tweets my eyes went straight to a particular word. I'd like to think a man with Dr. Kleins education would not do this accidentally.

He used the word "our"....not "are". I know this was intentional because in his next tweet, he uses the "our" word correctly.

"OUR" ---> Definition of OUR : of or relating to us or ourselves or ourself especially as possessors or possessor, agents or agent, or objects or object of an action.


Does Dr. Klein wants us to examine who Michaels true friends "our"? :shock:



*For the record....I'm still on the fence about Dr. Klein.... but given the timing of all this, he's got my attention! :geek:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 02, 2011, 09:52:31 AM
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Published by Anna

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=profile;u=4629;area=showposts;start=275




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Haha Arnie must be reading this thread and that post of back...lol...love to see the look on his face...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: missudi on November 02, 2011, 10:12:33 AM
I was thinking exactly the same thing about the spelling,our instead of are,It made me think it couldnt be him,and it was someone whose english isnt too good. Is it his Twitter ,or someone pretending to be him,I never know with Twitters.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 02, 2011, 10:18:40 AM
First, Herb Ritts' work is always awesome, and with a model like that
it was destined to be perfect.
Second, I suspect that twitter account IS real Klein and he must be scared.
This is how he looks like in his actions, scared.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: trublu on November 02, 2011, 01:02:10 PM
Wow I bet the non believers didn't like that!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 02, 2011, 01:11:25 PM
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First, Herb Ritts' work is always awesome, and with a model like that
it was destined to be perfect.
Second, I suspect that twitter account IS real Klein and he must be scared.
This is how he looks like in his actions, scared.


He is scared, because he must have done something wrong.. Now he will be paying for it..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 02, 2011, 01:24:03 PM
Was Arnie´s account hacked?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: AnaMarcia on November 02, 2011, 01:26:20 PM
This really is very interesting.

Klein says that the name of Murray is false, that JUDGEMENT is false and controlled by AEG.

That each day is better. Just missing the final event.

By the way, despite all the controversy I think Klein is part of the hoax.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 02:44:19 PM
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This really is very interesting.

Klein says that the name of Murray is false, that JUDGEMENT is false and controlled by AEG.

That each day is better. Just missing the final event.

By the way, despite all the controversy I think Klein is part of the hoax.

Me too - but it could be that Klein thinks he's involved in one way when in fact it's something totally different? IDK.

As far as the use of "our" - I think he has it correct. Judges are elected officials and are paid by our taxes so they are "our" judges.

Blessings

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on November 02, 2011, 03:22:09 PM
WOW this is so great!!!!!! party/

It is real twitter of Dr. Klein. If you go to his website www.drarnoldklein.com his twitter is listed there.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: blankie on November 02, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
I don't understand why he says these things now.... /pull hair/ /cook/ bangbang...Poor we !!!! :) geek/ bangbang ::P
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: curls on November 02, 2011, 03:50:59 PM
What's going on???

Have I got it right that Klein is tweeting a link to our thread about CM being Robert Earl Carter?

That's pretty major I'd say!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 02, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
It IS his official account on twitter and facebook from what I understand. This is very interesting and seems to fit perfectly into BACK's post regardng Arnie being on the "de-klein" lol. Something is going on most definitely.
If we suspect BACK to be Michael, then why would he reference something along the lines of exposing Dr. Klein yet involve him in the hoax? If he was in on anything, the gay inuendo has nothing to do with anything. It seems he stuck his foot far in his mouth and is regretting it, hence the retraction of his statements/stories in the past. He seems nervous about something and him saying the records shown in court are not his own are intriguing considering his own attorney was on both Dr. Drew and JVM confirming they were?

 I'm not sure if anyone saw Dr. Drew yesterday with photog Ben E. who stated Michael alledgedly visited Klein and an unknown dentist daily. One which contradicts the records, and the other there is no mention of or records at all. Perhaps he didn't have anything done but why was he visiting him/"them" so often if it was true? Why the fake records? We're missing something...

I agree curls it is major.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 02, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
Wow..! Awesome!! :mrgreen:

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What is this supposed to mean? Have we seen this picture before? I know I haven't...and by the way, MJ looks awesome!

awkmd Arnold Klein
herb ritts pic.twitter.com/kLTK4z2
2 hours ago Favorite Reply

Here is the photoshoot, 1991 Herb Ritts...
http://mjphotoscollectors.com/index.php?/gallery/category/1551-1991-herb-ritts/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 04:10:20 PM
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This really is very interesting.

Klein says that the name of Murray is false, that JUDGEMENT is false and controlled by AEG.

That each day is better. Just missing the final event.

By the way, despite all the controversy I think Klein is part of the hoax.

Me too - but it could be that Klein thinks he's involved in one way when in fact it's something totally different? IDK.

As far as the use of "our" - I think he has it correct. Judges are elected officials and are paid by our taxes so they are "our" judges.

Blessings



The incorrect "our" I was referring to was this tweet he sent:

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/FHQ9vfqwc7M now is the time you learn who your friends our!
6 hours ago Favorite Reply



The other tweet is the correct use of "our" (the tweet referring to judges taxes etc...) which signifies Klein did misuse the word "our" on the "know who your friends "our" on purpose  ;)

It's not a mistake most people would make if their native tongue is english.  The words are totally different in meaning & pronounciation.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 02, 2011, 04:17:48 PM
@Snoopy71 are you referring to him possibly saying Michael and him finding out who their real friends are throughout this trial/hoax?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 02, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
Maybe the pee in the cup remark is in direct correlation to the pee being analyzed at the trial.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 02, 2011, 04:26:52 PM
This is what Dr.Arnie Klein posted on his facebook on 29 october 2011 8-),and it goes along with the PHOTO ;)   8-): It is about Michael MEDICAL RECORDS!!!!!

Who killed Michae Jackson? please read! by ARNOLD KLEIN 


Arnold W. Klein, MD
Professor of Medicine and Dermatology
UCLA
Klein Chair in Dermatology UCLA
Consultant to the General and Plastic Surgery Devices Panel of the FDA
"The Most Innovative & Famous Cosmetic Dermatologist in the World”
 Bev Hills Times Magazine

Subject: Hipaa Violation Report

I am Dr. Arnold Klein of 9615 Brighton Way Ste M-110 Beverly Hills, CA 90210.  I am filing this report of a HIPAA violation regarding the records of my former patient, Mr. Michael Jackson. 

Doctors frequently use medical software systems both for records and insurance billing these doctors input billing data, the patient’s name, billing amount, type of treatment, diagnosis, type of drugs prescribed and administered, and the date of service. This is essentially the record system in my office.  On October 27, 2009, without my permission my lawyers Richard Charnley and Brad Boyer of the law firm of Ropers, Majeski, Kohn and Bentley of 515 Flower Street Ste 1100 Los Angeles, CA 90011 in collusion with my former employee Jason Pfeiffer and former accountant Muhammad Kihilji essentially released Michael Jackson’s medical records in court supposedly to get me paid by the Jackson estate.

I did find out until recently that this was the manner in which the mass media got hold of my records. They released the software bills showing line by line the treatment details of each visit that was unpaid at the time of Michael's untimely death. Mr. Charnley and Mr. Khilji then went on to release the entire patient chart of Michael Jackson including my notes written on the patient file to various individuals on the Internet. I recently found a copy on the office computer from Mr. Khilji. 

This unauthorized release of Michael Jackson’s records has caused my practice untold damage and has spurned a media circus. It has given tabloids and trashy media free access to Mr. Jackson’s private

medical information.  Mr. Jason Pfeiffer has tried to capitalize on the hype and has gone on television to publicly discuss the records and my treatments on television.  It should be noted that Jason Pfeiffer, Muhammad Khilji with the assistance of Richard Charnley have embezzled over 12 million dollars from me leaving me in bankruptcy court. The have made illegal loans, stolen my identity, written checks, taken out loans, open and closed bank accounts, and depleted my retirement fund. 

These individuals did this without my permission but I have reason to believe the concert promoter’s AEG is involved in that they have been in contact with Charnely. .

Once released my records have been totally misinterpreted. They have been used by TMZ, The Beast, Anderson Cooper and various other media sources to obscure the real facts and individuals responsible for Mr. Michael Jackson’s death. First these records are not simply my records but that of three physicians treating Mr. Jackson: Myself, David Rish and Ilya Reyder. Michael was treated by me to rebuild his face for the “This is It  Tour.” Injection sessions to rebuild his face from the consequences of faulty plastic surgery took 3-4 hours and he was given Demerol for pain relief during these procedures. Please note the entire month of May I was out of the country so injections he received during that time were not mine. Addiction requires the frequency and dose of medication to increase. As my treatments with Michael became less lengthily the dose of Demerol that was used and the frequency of visits was greatly reduced. The figures that have been erroneously quoted to the public indicate a grossly increased frequency of visits and size of dose than that actually used. Being a recognized authority on addiction and Mr. Jackson’s physician I was well aware of his long-standing problem with Propothol created by a plastic surgeon that Mr. Jackson subsequently discharged and was placed in a mental institution. Please understand what you have experienced and I have suffered is an attempt by the greedy parties responsible for Michael Jackson’s death to use me as a scapegoat. They have defamed my name and attempted to destroy me. My relationship with Mr. Jackson taught me many things one of which was the ability to survive. Now it is my turn to take action against the media and finally reveal the greedy and disgusting people who were truly responsible for Michael Jackson’s death.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_MerXxLkKSA/TquqJOLSRsI/AAAAAAAABCs/Niq0sckYubE/s320/317125_2328120773739_1571307064_32203580_646790751_n.jpg)

This message is for Mr.Arnie Klein:
Thank you very much for LOVING Michael,ALL THIS HOAX was/is THE ADVENTURE OF MY LIFE.Because of this HOAX/ILLUSION I finally found THE TRUTH and THE MEANING OF LIFE,thank you from the bottom of my heart,God bless you  :) !!!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: susie58777 on November 02, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
Thanks for posting this, im new, and i have been following this website since the beginning of 2011, and finally i decided to join.
about this topic, im not sure that Arnold Klien is part of the hoax, maybe he knows some information but not alot, but again who knows /bravo/ :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: PureLove on November 02, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
I've always thought that Arnie learnt about the hoax later. Michael didn't tell him but he learnt somehow. And he is scared shitless because he did something wrong. He doesn't say anything bad about the hoax forum but on the contrary he is redirecting people to this forum. This means he is reading this forum. And also he is trying to put the blame on Murray.

OR

He is in on the hoax and he is redirecting people to this forum to wake them up. Not sure what to think of him.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 04:36:40 PM
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It IS his official account on twitter and facebook from what I understand. This is very interesting and seems to fit perfectly into BACK's post regardng Arnie being on the "de-klein" lol. Something is going on most definitely.
If we suspect BACK to be Michael, then why would he reference something along the lines of exposing Dr. Klein yet involve him in the hoax? If he was in on anything, the gay inuendo has nothing to do with anything. It seems he stuck his foot far in his mouth and is regretting it, hence the retraction of his statements/stories in the past. He seems nervous about something and him saying the records shown in court are not his own are intriguing considering his own attorney was on both Dr. Drew and JVM confirming they were?

 I'm not sure if anyone saw Dr. Drew yesterday with photog Ben E. who stated Michael alledgedly visited Klein and an unknown dentist daily. One which contradicts the records, and the other there is no mention of or records at all. Perhaps he didn't have anything done but why was he visiting him/"them" so often if it was true? Why the fake records? We're missing something...
I agree curls it is major.


awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… records used in court are not mine
31 Oct


This is where it gets tricky...remember when the "Klein" records were shown in court, there was a comment made (not sure if it was the witness or the lawyer who mentioned it) that there was no doctors initials on the procedures performed and also that the weeks Dr. Klein "stated" he didn't see Michael in the office, there was a different doctors initials next to those procedures.

We never saw the full medical report from Dr. Kleins office, only specific pages which referenced Demerol. So the pages that were presented in court could well have been a forgery. There was only the name of a patient (Omar Arnold)....no patient ID number, no doctor signature...nothing but a fake name.

How would they know which Omar Arnold patient they are referring to? There could have been more than one patient with that name. :|

*Something to also consider....if the autopsy report is a fake, why wouldn't Klein's records possibly be fake also?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 04:56:27 PM
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@Snoopy71 are you referring to him possibly saying Michael and him finding out who their real friends are throughout this trial/hoax?

You know I honestly don't know.  I don't know if he's stating he's in on the hoax or perhaps this was all set up in part to see who Michael's "so called friends/fans" really are and who aren't (example....Schmuley, Uri Geller, former business associates, artists he's worked with etc.. etc...), maybe he's referring to all of us believers and "our" beliefs/comraderie etc...I don't know.  :?

But it is a very interesting word slip.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: scorpionchik on November 02, 2011, 05:02:42 PM
First of all the account is not verified, could be Klein, could be somebody else; and then I followed the link but could not read tweets because the account is secured, one needs to ask for permission to follow. Is that happened to you too guys?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 02, 2011, 05:07:18 PM
Exactly. I understand the falsified "documents/reports" are used because they are apart of the hoax. However, if Klein is in on the hoax why set him up like this? He sited major losses due to this trial, and why would he be so scared?
Do you take Back as a credible character? If so, I'm not understanding Klein's position given his defaming statements about Michael. He seems to have an indirect role.

Edit: That is what I believe is being done @Snoopy71. Michael is the one finding out who are his true friends, fans ect. are, emphasis on his closest business/friend relationships though.

And @scorpionchik his account isn't verified, but neither are Paris' nor Prince ect. Doesn't mean it isn't him. He has his tweets protected from the public which is common on twitter. He has to accept you as a follower for you to see.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 05:16:28 PM
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What is this supposed to mean? Have we seen this picture before? I know I haven't...and by the way, MJ looks awesome!

awkmd Arnold Klein
herb ritts pic.twitter.com/kLTK4z2
2 hours ago Favorite Reply





hmmmm.....picture of a picture. (reminds me of the death and autopsy photos)

It almost looks like (if you were looking at Michael's body language in the pictures) Michael is saying "do not say/speak"...."do not look/see".

Interesting choice of pictures for Klein to tweet.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 02, 2011, 06:06:16 PM
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This is what Dr.Arnie Klein posted on his facebook on 29 october 2011 8-),and it goes along with the PHOTO ;)   8-): It is about Michael MEDICAL RECORDS!!!!!

Who killed Michae Jackson? please read! by ARNOLD KLEIN 


Arnold W. Klein, MD
Professor of Medicine and Dermatology
UCLA
Klein Chair in Dermatology UCLA
Consultant to the General and Plastic Surgery Devices Panel of the FDA
"The Most Innovative & Famous Cosmetic Dermatologist in the World”
 Bev Hills Times Magazine

Subject: Hipaa Violation Report

I am Dr. Arnold Klein of 9615 Brighton Way Ste M-110 Beverly Hills, CA 90210.  I am filing this report of a HIPAA violation regarding the records of my former patient, Mr. Michael Jackson. 

Doctors frequently use medical software systems both for records and insurance billing these doctors input billing data, the patient’s name, billing amount, type of treatment, diagnosis, type of drugs prescribed and administered, and the date of service. This is essentially the record system in my office.  On October 27, 2009, without my permission my lawyers Richard Charnley and Brad Boyer of the law firm of Ropers, Majeski, Kohn and Bentley of 515 Flower Street Ste 1100 Los Angeles, CA 90011 in collusion with my former employee Jason Pfeiffer and former accountant Muhammad Kihilji essentially released Michael Jackson’s medical records in court supposedly to get me paid by the Jackson estate.

I did find out until recently that this was the manner in which the mass media got hold of my records. They released the software bills showing line by line the treatment details of each visit that was unpaid at the time of Michael's untimely death. Mr. Charnley and Mr. Khilji then went on to release the entire patient chart of Michael Jackson including my notes written on the patient file to various individuals on the Internet. I recently found a copy on the office computer from Mr. Khilji. 

This unauthorized release of Michael Jackson’s records has caused my practice untold damage and has spurned a media circus. It has given tabloids and trashy media free access to Mr. Jackson’s private medical information.

Mr. Jason Pfeiffer has tried to capitalize on the hype and has gone on television to publicly discuss the records and my treatments on television.  It should be noted that Jason Pfeiffer, Muhammad Khilji with the assistance of Richard Charnley have embezzled over 12 million dollars from me leaving me in bankruptcy court. The have made illegal loans, stolen my identity, written checks, taken out loans, open and closed bank accounts, and depleted my retirement fund.

These individuals did this without my permission but I have reason to believe the concert promoter’s AEG is involved in that they have been in contact with Charnely.

Once released my records have been totally misinterpreted.
They have been used by TMZ, The Beast, Anderson Cooper and various other media sources to obscure the real facts and individuals responsible for Mr. Michael Jackson’s death. First these records are not simply my records but that of three physicians treating Mr. Jackson: Myself, David Rish and Ilya Reyder. Michael was treated by me to rebuild his face for the “This is It  Tour.”

Injection sessions to rebuild his face from the consequences of faulty plastic surgery took 3-4 hours and he was given Demerol for pain relief during these procedures. Please note the entire month of May I was out of the country so injections he received during that time were not mine.   Addiction requires the frequency and dose of medication to increase. As my treatments with Michael became less lengthily the dose of Demerol that was used and the frequency of visits was greatly reduced. The figures that have been erroneously quoted to the public indicate a grossly increased frequency of visits and size of dose than that actually used. Being a recognized authority on addiction and Mr. Jackson’s physician I was well aware of his long-standing problem with Propothol created by a plastic surgeon that Mr. Jackson subsequently discharged and was placed in a mental institution. Please understand what you have experienced and I have suffered is an attempt by the greedy parties responsible for Michael Jackson’s death to use me as a scapegoat. They have defamed my name and attempted to destroy me. My relationship with Mr. Jackson taught me many things one of which was the ability to survive. Now it is my turn to take action against the media and finally reveal the greedy and disgusting people who were truly responsible for Michael Jackson’s death.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_MerXxLkKSA/TquqJOLSRsI/AAAAAAAABCs/Niq0sckYubE/s320/317125_2328120773739_1571307064_32203580_646790751_n.jpg)



Hmmmm.....I wonder if this is damage control, how much of it is hoax or if Dr. Klein is the victim of an elaborate ruse.  :?

....too I wonder where did the defenses copy of the medical records come from?
 :D
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: marisjm on November 02, 2011, 07:18:39 PM
Arnold Klein just put up a tweet regarding the hoax.


Michael death is not a hoax but the overpay of Judge Pastor and questionable history of Murray are issues.

(I don't know how to copy and past the way the site is right now, but I wrote it word for word.)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 02, 2011, 07:41:41 PM
I think Arnie knows about the hoax, he must.  We don't know if Michael was actually getting procedures done while at Klein's office and even if he was, I don't think he was injected with as much drugs as we are being told.  If procedures were being done, it would make sense to be on some sort of meds, a moderate amount unless you have a very high threshold for pain.  I believe Arnie helped create the back story for the hoax, to make it more believable that Michael was a drug addict for the purpose of the hoax.  People jumped to conclusions as to what Michael was doing at the office before the supposed bill was ever published on the internet.  They could've been sitting around having tea and discussing hoax stuff for all we know.  Arnie has helped create some of the most whacked-out controversial stories since Michael "died"... and we know that Michael LIVES for controversy.  All of these crazy stories make people talk about Michael, think about him, judge him, etc like they have been doing for years.  Just like how some people are judging Klein now.  I've said this before but I will reserve my judgment on Klein until actual facts that can be verified come out. 

And the fact that Arnie linked to this forum says A LOT.  He could have found that information elsewhere, but no, he links to the OFFICIAL hoax forum.  Very telling in my opinion.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on November 02, 2011, 07:46:31 PM
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Thanks for posting this, im new, and i have been following this website since the beginning of 2011, and finally i decided to join.
about this topic, im not sure that Arnold Klien is part of the hoax, maybe he knows some information but not alot, but again who knows /bravo/ :)

Welcome, Susie :) Thanks for your 1st post. We don't know for sure if Arnold Klein is part of it, though the tweets are indeed interesting.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 02, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
Arny starts the storm and then hides, i wonder if something will happen to in the few days remaining in the trial or after
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 02, 2011, 07:59:52 PM
Okay...that recent tweet has me saying WTF?? WTF?? WTF?? . Wow........ :?: So if it's not a "hoax", then why visit a site in regards to???? I don't get it. Wouldn't a doc have better things to do ? Quite confused. Oh well...at least I know who to visit if I ever need a botox treatment. HAHA!  geek/ jK
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 02, 2011, 08:07:51 PM
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I think Arnie knows about the hoax, he must.  We don't know if Michael was actually getting procedures done while at Klein's office and even if he was, I don't think he was injected with as much drugs as we are being told.  If procedures were being done, it would make sense to be on some sort of meds, a moderate amount unless you have a very high threshold for pain.  I believe Arnie helped create the back story for the hoax, to make it more believable that Michael was a drug addict for the purpose of the hoax.  People jumped to conclusions as to what Michael was doing at the office before the supposed bill was ever published on the internet.  They could've been sitting around having tea and discussing hoax stuff for all we know.  Arnie has helped create some of the most whacked-out controversial stories  :lol:since Michael "died"... and we know that Michael LIVES for controversy.  All of these crazy stories make people talk about Michael, think about him, judge him, etc like they have been doing for years.  Just like how some people are judging Klein now.  I've said this before but I will reserve my judgment on Klein until actual facts that can be verified come out.

And the fact that Arnie linked to this forum says A LOT.  He could have found that information elsewhere, but no, he links to the OFFICIAL hoax forum.  Very telling in my opinion.

Thank you Andrea for this and yes is true the CRAZY STORIES seems to never END,lol  :lol: .Remember there is always 2 SIDES OF EVERY STORY:THE DRAMA or THE COMEDY.I've saw BOTH,in this BIG HOAX and it HELPT me stay SANE,lol ,because if you know just one SIDE OF THE STORY ,it means you are either a BELIEVER or an NON BELIEVER.I choose to stay IN BETEWN/MIDDLE,and keep my sanity ,lol. :lol: !!!!
Arnie Klein is a very good actor also and he LOVES Michael very much.he likes DRAMA very much,but it seems that COMEDY is his favourite,ENJOY, and look for the SHOES,MICHAEL's SHOES :lol: :lol: :lol:   :shock: :shock: :lol:???????!!!!!!!!


Michael Jackson's Doctor Arnie Klein Speaks To Hollywood.TV
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0REXmt_mYOY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on November 02, 2011, 08:12:11 PM
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It IS his official account on twitter and facebook from what I understand. This is very interesting and seems to fit perfectly into BACK's post regardng Arnie being on the "de-klein" lol. Something is going on most definitely.
If we suspect BACK to be Michael, then why would he reference something along the lines of exposing Dr. Klein yet involve him in the hoax? If he was in on anything, the gay inuendo has nothing to do with anything. It seems he stuck his foot far in his mouth and is regretting it, hence the retraction of his statements/stories in the past. He seems nervous about something and him saying the records shown in court are not his own are intriguing considering his own attorney was on both Dr. Drew and JVM confirming they were?

 I'm not sure if anyone saw Dr. Drew yesterday with photog Ben E. who stated Michael alledgedly visited Klein and an unknown dentist daily. One which contradicts the records, and the other there is no mention of or records at all. Perhaps he didn't have anything done but why was he visiting him/"them" so often if it was true? Why the fake records? We're missing something...
I agree curls it is major.


awkmd Arnold Klein
tmz.com/category/conra… records used in court are not mine
31 Oct


This is where it gets tricky...remember when the "Klein" records were shown in court, there was a comment made (not sure if it was the witness or the lawyer who mentioned it) that there was no doctors initials on the procedures performed and also that the weeks Dr. Klein "stated" he didn't see Michael in the office, there was a different doctors initials next to those procedures.

We never saw the full medical report from Dr. Kleins office, only specific pages which referenced Demerol. So the pages that were presented in court could well have been a forgery. There was only the name of a patient (Omar Arnold)....no patient ID number, no doctor signature...nothing but a fake name.

How would they know which Omar Arnold patient they are referring to? There could have been more than one patient with that name. :|

*Something to also consider....if the autopsy report is a fake, why wouldn't Klein's records possibly be fake also?
True that there must be initials or a signature on the medical documents and also true that Omar Arnold with no dob or patient# could be anybody. Arnold Klein didn't testify because the documents are not his. Although he didn't attend at the trial, he's got attention and it caused confusion and questions. People start to think (I hope so!). This trial will also prove the leaks and inconsistencies concerning the privacy of patients in health care, especially when money is the issue.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 08:12:57 PM
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Arnold Klein just put up a tweet regarding the hoax.


Michael death is not a hoax but the overpay of Judge Pastor and questionable history of Murray are issues.

(I don't know how to copy and past the way the site is right now, but I wrote it word for word.)

Thank you for sharing this - I interpret this to mean that he's insinuating that the judge has been bought or paid off. I'm just floored by the accusations that he put on his Facebook about the embezzlement. That is a Federal crime where officials get involved. One doesn't just accuse another on Facebook or Twitter and then forget about it like a child who has his cookie taken from the class bully. Why hasn't he reported this to Federal authorities if it's true?

The same goes with the medical records. He should be reporting it to Federal authorities - not just crying foul. Something is really wrong with this whole picture. Either he is covering up his own guilt, he's running scared, or he's trying to draw attention for a specific reason. I just don't know what to think about this.

Snoopy - thanks for explaining ;)

Blessings!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 02, 2011, 08:16:06 PM
Ofcourse these are "issues" because this is a hoax. A hoax court with a judge being over payed to help create an illusion for Michael and a "doctor" hired to play a role? Very likely. As a real judge he would need compensation for this and with federal involvement it wouldn't be a crime.

Good posts @ everlastinglove_MJ and voiceforthesilent I agree. It begs the question why if hes so concerned with crimes being committed, wouldn't he report it?

Edit: Exactly alfarle, he was Michaels doctor/friend visiting a hoax site. His motives are confusing though. We shall see...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 02, 2011, 08:31:39 PM
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Ofcourse these are "issues" Dr. Klein because this is a hoax. A hoax court with a judge being over payed to help create an illusion for Michael and a doctor hired to play a role? Very likely.

Good posts @ everlastinglove_MJ and voiceforthesilent I agree. It begs the question why if hes so concerned with crimes being committed, wouldn't he report it?

Edit: Exactly alfarle, he was Michaels doctor/friend visiting a hoax site. His motives are confusing though. We shall see..


Very true. PLUS....It's ONE thing for A DOC to say such things due to the fact that he's a bit suspect himself...BUT his FAMILY....FAMILY .....FAMILY has NOT ONCE  CONFIRMED that it wasn't a hoax and I'm sure would be angered at the fact if they thought that ppl such as beLIEvers would be making a mockery out of his "death". So Klein....Um....Idk.  :?:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 02, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
Correct. So either he knows something--obviously, whatever that is--or hes scared; perhaps both.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 02, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
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Correct. So either he knows something--obviously, whatever that is--or hes scared; perhaps both.

Arnie's behavior has been...questionable...but I think the impressions that he's running scared is because he's ACTING that way... I do believe he has a ROLE in this hoax. ;)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: wishingstar on November 02, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
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This is what Dr.Arnie Klein posted on his facebook on 29 october 2011 8-),and it goes along with the PHOTO ;)   8-): It is about Michael MEDICAL RECORDS!!!!!

Who killed Michae Jackson? please read! by ARNOLD KLEIN 


Arnold W. Klein, MD
Professor of Medicine and Dermatology
UCLA
Klein Chair in Dermatology UCLA
Consultant to the General and Plastic Surgery Devices Panel of the FDA
"The Most Innovative & Famous Cosmetic Dermatologist in the World”
 Bev Hills Times Magazine

Subject: Hipaa Violation Report

I am Dr. Arnold Klein of 9615 Brighton Way Ste M-110 Beverly Hills, CA 90210.  I am filing this report of a HIPAA violation regarding the records of my former patient, Mr. Michael Jackson. 

Doctors frequently use medical software systems both for records and insurance billing these doctors input billing data, the patient’s name, billing amount, type of treatment, diagnosis, type of drugs prescribed and administered, and the date of service. This is essentially the record system in my office.  On October 27, 2009, without my permission my lawyers Richard Charnley and Brad Boyer of the law firm of Ropers, Majeski, Kohn and Bentley of 515 Flower Street Ste 1100 Los Angeles, CA 90011 in collusion with my former employee Jason Pfeiffer and former accountant Muhammad Kihilji essentially released Michael Jackson’s medical records in court supposedly to get me paid by the Jackson estate.

I did find out until recently that this was the manner in which the mass media got hold of my records. They released the software bills showing line by line the treatment details of each visit that was unpaid at the time of Michael's untimely death. Mr. Charnley and Mr. Khilji then went on to release the entire patient chart of Michael Jackson including my notes written on the patient file to various individuals on the Internet. I recently found a copy on the office computer from Mr. Khilji. 

This unauthorized release of Michael Jackson’s records has caused my practice untold damage and has spurned a media circus. It has given tabloids and trashy media free access to Mr. Jackson’s private

medical information.  Mr. Jason Pfeiffer has tried to capitalize on the hype and has gone on television to publicly discuss the records and my treatments on television.  It should be noted that Jason Pfeiffer, Muhammad Khilji with the assistance of Richard Charnley have embezzled over 12 million dollars from me leaving me in bankruptcy court. The have made illegal loans, stolen my identity, written checks, taken out loans, open and closed bank accounts, and depleted my retirement fund. 

These individuals did this without my permission but I have reason to believe the concert promoter’s AEG is involved in that they have been in contact with Charnely. .

Once released my records have been totally misinterpreted. They have been used by TMZ, The Beast, Anderson Cooper and various other media sources to obscure the real facts and individuals responsible for Mr. Michael Jackson’s death. First these records are not simply my records but that of three physicians treating Mr. Jackson: Myself, David Rish and Ilya Reyder. Michael was treated by me to rebuild his face for the “This is It  Tour.” Injection sessions to rebuild his face from the consequences of faulty plastic surgery took 3-4 hours and he was given Demerol for pain relief during these procedures. Please note the entire month of May I was out of the country so injections he received during that time were not mine. Addiction requires the frequency and dose of medication to increase. As my treatments with Michael became less lengthily the dose of Demerol that was used and the frequency of visits was greatly reduced. The figures that have been erroneously quoted to the public indicate a grossly increased frequency of visits and size of dose than that actually used. Being a recognized authority on addiction and Mr. Jackson’s physician I was well aware of his long-standing problem with Propothol created by a plastic surgeon that Mr. Jackson subsequently discharged and was placed in a mental institution. Please understand what you have experienced and I have suffered is an attempt by the greedy parties responsible for Michael Jackson’s death to use me as a scapegoat. They have defamed my name and attempted to destroy me. My relationship with Mr. Jackson taught me many things one of which was the ability to survive. Now it is my turn to take action against the media and finally reveal the greedy and disgusting people who were truly responsible for Michael Jackson’s death.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_MerXxLkKSA/TquqJOLSRsI/AAAAAAAABCs/Niq0sckYubE/s320/317125_2328120773739_1571307064_32203580_646790751_n.jpg)

This message is for Mr.Arnie Klein:
Thank you very much for LOVING Michael,ALL THIS HOAX was/is THE ADVENTURE OF MY LIFE.Because of this HOAX/ILLUSION I finally found THE TRUTH and THE MEANING OF LIFE,thank you from the bottom of my heart,God bless you  :) !!!!

Hey applehead.....

I did an old thread about Hippa violations, for some reason, it's not letting me copy and paste this big ol' link......if you are interested, search my posts, it's reposted on the back thread as well "Clear HIPPA Violations and More"

Great post about Klein......thank you!

Blessings
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 02, 2011, 10:10:15 PM
According to the tweet where he posted that this isn't a hoax, means he must be in the know, he can't read this website, know MJ and NOT think it's a hoax...we think it's a hoax and we never knew MJ personally, but AK did and I'm sure he knows, either;

-He links to this hoax site because he is in the know and bringing more attention to it
-He doesn't know, but stumbled upon the info of CM
-Or he is showing MJ he does know and figured it out, hoping that MJ doesn't pull a fast one on him...because I'm sure he knows MJ will come after him
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: bec on November 02, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
Arnie is totally in on it. Shifty-eyed Klein would have to have MJ's post-mortum permission to discuss his medical records without violating HIPAA regulations.

Posted May 5, 2010:

Shifty Eyed Klein rides again

So Klein calls up TMZ live to proclaim that Michael Jackson was gay and Klein’s employee (son???) was the love of his life. Ok Klein, now you’ve got everyone’s attention. Fan or non-fan, who didn’t get wind of this one? It’s tailor made for gossip.

I found this article which spawned this post,

http://www.salon.com/news/environment/vital_signs/2009/07/13/dr_arnold_klein

Well seems Klein has a small problem. He has violated HIPAA laws…. not once, not twice, not even recently, but many times over the course of the past 10 months. Seems every single time he has gone media whoring, Klein has violated this law.

    "Klein began by revealing personal details about his friendship with the singer. To my surprise, he then divulged facts about Jackson that only a physician knows about a patient. In describing his first meeting with Jackson, Klein noted how the singer had “a butterfly rash and he also had severe crusting you could see on the anterior portion of his scalp.” He subsequently “did a biopsy” on Jackson and diagnosed him with Lupus, an autoimmune disorder that causes those and other symptoms.

    Klein went on to reveal many other details, like how he was “rebuilding” Jackson’s face before his comeback concert. On the subject of drug use, Klein continued to chat up the audience. He admitted to providing Jackson with Demerol to sedate him and stated that, contrary to reports, Jackson was not “riddled with needle marks” (though Klein told King he never examined his entire body). Perhaps most revealingly, Klein, as if he had Jackson’s chart in front of him, dished about the singer’s past medical history. “Michael, at one time, had an addiction,” he said. “And he went to England and he withdrew that addiction at a secure setting, where he went off of drugs altogether. And what I told Michael when I met him in this present situation when I was seeing him, that I had to keep reducing the dosage of what he was on, because he came to me with a huge tolerance level.”

This is a problem for Klein because he has revealed intimate medical details on one of his patients.  The HIPAA law expressly prohibits this, explained here:

    "Basically, the law forbids medical professionals from disclosing health information unless a patient provides consent to do so. Among other things, HIPAA is the reason that your doctor can’t fax a letter to you or transfer your records to another doctor without your filling out permission forms. It’s the reason the mother of a teenage patient of mine, a nurse, was disciplined when she looked at the medical records of her own son. It’s also the reason you’ll never see me, or any other physician, reveal the identities of our patients — without their consent — when we discuss or write about them."

Klein could face sanctions, fines, and disciplinary proceedings as a medical professional for violating this law. And Klein is of course aware of this law and the line he has crossed as exposed here in this statement released by his lawyers shortly following 6-25-09:

    “Dr. Klein is aware of media reports connecting him to Michael Jackson. Because of patient confidentiality, Dr. Klein will make no statement on any reports or allegations. Out of respect for his patients and adherence to federal HIPAA regulations, Dr. Klein asks that the media not contact him or his patients, nor interfere with their medical treatments. Like millions of Michael’s fans around the world, Dr. Klein is saddened by Michael’s death and extends his condolences to the family.”

Following this statement, Klein set off on the talk show circuit.

What makes this situation truly odd is this. Klein touts himself “dermatologist to the stars”. By “betraying” Michael, Klein has committed virtual career suicide. Tell me what celebrity wants to continue to be a patient of shifty eyed, loose lips Klein, now that he is acting as the tabloid source for all things juicy following the “death” of one of his high profile clients? Call me crazy but I don’t see a lot of Hollywood’s A list signing up to be the next source for fodder.

If this was for real, Klein’s office would be instantly transformed into a ghost town with nothing on the book. Suddenly this man should be experiencing a whole lot of free time for his willful sharing of personal information. Why in the world would Klein DO this?

Really the whole thing makes no sense UNLESS Klein is covered under one of the follwoing two loopholes in this law.

    -Klein is telling LIES, which does not violate the HIPAA law because the information is not accurate, or
    -Michael gave Klein consent to speak publically about his medical conditions

The author of the referenced article closed with this statement:

    "At the same time, said Phillips, it’s possible that Jackson may have given Klein permission to discuss his PHI, or private health information, in public. In that case, Phillips [Stephen K. Phillips, a healthcare attorney in San Francisco] said, “you haven’t violated the law by doing so, unless and until that authorization is withdrawn.” I tried to contact Klein to clarify these important points several times, but never received a response. His attorney didn’t get back to me either."

So Klein could be straight up lying… and free and clear under the law… but playing a very dangerous game with his career, or Michael is directing him to talk. Bottom line,  when you look at the law, and the facts, Klein is good for the hoax.

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/shifty-eyed-klein-rides-again/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 02, 2011, 11:22:09 PM
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According to the tweet where he posted that this isn't a hoax, means he must be in the know, he can't read this website, know MJ and NOT think it's a hoax...we think it's a hoax and we never knew MJ personally, but AK did and I'm sure he knows, either;

-He links to this hoax site because he is in the know and bringing more attention to it
-He doesn't know, but stumbled upon the info of CM
-Or he is showing MJ he does know and figured it out, hoping that MJ doesn't pull a fast one on him...because I'm sure he knows MJ will come after him

Those are some very valid points. :)  /bravo/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 02, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
Great points, Bec. That is so true. I noticed that Dr Klein is now proclaiming himself the most famous Dermatologist in the world? Crazy...the only reason he's so well known is because of Michael, and I don't think he's as famous as he believes. I didn't even know his name before the hoax.

Anyways, I can't imagine that he'd risk breaking the law by violating HIPPA laws. But, then I have apparently been living in a bubble for the past 49 years. Boy have my eyes been opened.

Blessings
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 03, 2011, 12:43:35 AM
Great post Bec. I do recall seeing a few of Michaels doctors coming out after he "died" speaking about him but never going into as much detail as Klein due to doctor-patient confidentiality.
Sooo...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Grace on November 03, 2011, 02:28:38 AM
Never forget that the medical theme in this journey is a serious one but it is also exemplary and stands for many many aspects in this journey.
 
 The medical theme triggers our emotions since it concerns each and everybody in the end. This makes it exceptional and trivia at the same moment and an excellent dramaturgical element.
 
 However, as Michael cannot speak out directly and say Mr. xyz from company abc did this and that - since nobody would believe him and he would be drowned in new lawsuits - he is using the medical theme as an allegory to tell his story. Truth by fairy tale.
 
 The documents that were falsified, leaked, discussed in public, those burglars in medical offices may be characters only playing the set up scenario. Remember the letter of intent that was not signed by all parties, the agreement that a fax only from representatives might change the contract duties, the will that was signed one day after Michael's speech in New York etc.
 
 The real scenario is not medical but business with all affiliations.
 Michael has spoken countless times about his issues.
 Nobody believed him or would come up to support him not to speak of getting into his back to help him. The subject was too far from everybody - tycoons discuss contracts, right, well so be it, doesn't concern us.
 
 Arnie building up his face for the tour after much destructive plastic surgery? When was Michael forced to lose his face in public?
 Who did that?
 
 Usually, Arnie gets bad feedback. I wonder if that is correct.
 Michael's face is one of his treasures. You don't choose a doc you cannot rely on when it comes to your assets, right?
 Doesn't mean that there is not a lot more dirt hidden than we notice to date.
 
 A reduction on the medical issues in Doc Murray's trial is overlooking the background. That's why the outcome of this trial is only one step and that's why Michael will not be brought back by it.
 It's still not the right time. The trial has to set additional directives as to where the journey goes and will trigger subsequent events that are required to get to the end of this unveiling.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 03, 2011, 03:04:54 AM
 Well said Grace it makes sense in terms of this trial being yet another layer, not the whole onion-picture- so to speak.
 
 The emotional and interpersonal connection the medical industry has to each of us and our families is what grabs our attention, by it being somewhat relatable, whilst at the same time being theatrical. It was the perfect way to die in terms of what he wanted to accomplish with the hoax.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: JentleTouch on November 03, 2011, 03:08:46 AM
awkmd Arnold Klein
one finds information everywhere. Michael's death is real but I know much more than i have said.

So either the good old doc isn't in on it or he regrets linking to your website  ;))
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: _Anna_ on November 03, 2011, 03:21:12 AM
I know what BACK said in 2009 about Klein, and no matter how I look at Klein, I can't see him being good or "in", because otherwise why would BACK say:

"Arnie Klein is on decline. He's desperate and scared shitless. Because he knows it's just a matter of time. Tables will be turned."


For me, Klein deffinitely is wicked, with a hidden agenda and not the good guy. I doubt Michael would rely on Klein, considering BACK's words.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 03, 2011, 03:21:37 AM
Yes, info can be found everywhere and ANYwhere but why here?
He says he knows more than what he has said, that is ambiguous and can have another meaning.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on November 03, 2011, 03:50:05 AM
Here is a new tweet from Dr. Klein.

@awkmd Arnold Klein
one finds information everywhere. Michael's death is real but I know much more than i have said.

So now he is trying to find an excuse for posting link to our forum.  :roll:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 03, 2011, 04:20:13 AM
I agree with you Anna, but things could of changed over time, I know it was in 2009, but maybe Klein found out MJ is alive and now MJ has no choice to let him in...but I can't get my head around it, I don't see Klein being good in any way at all, I can't think of one nice thing he has done.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 03, 2011, 05:15:12 AM
@ illusion -  dont you think tho that MJ is in total control of who is 'in' on the hoax?


klein is a rat... and is going to look SOOOO stupid when mj bams.... he is already back peddeling


Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 03, 2011, 05:17:26 AM
btw, i sometimes imagine poor mj watching people give their condolences and jumping on the MJ bandwagon when he 'died' every second celebrity was linking themselves to mj... then people who would share secrets (BS) abt him to tabs... i often think abt mj watching from behind the scenes at what people had to say when he died. BAM will make quite a few of them look foolish i am sure.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 03, 2011, 05:30:28 AM
Yes Aussie your right, but like the other guy that went into business with KJ, he's name is Howard Mann, now that guy is a bad guy like Klein, maybe he found out about the hoax too and blackmailed KJ (maybe he had proof)...

...I don't know, if Mann was a pawn in this hoax or not, but I don't get why Klein would be the good guy, or better way to put it, in the know, cause he certainly isn't the good guy, but then somehow he knows about this site...he must be really dumb if he doesn't even think for a second this is a hoax....so he has to know right?...and if he knows, then I'm sure he is going down, he knows that, so he has to jump ship and save himself anyway he can, and if that means he has to blackmail or lie etc. then I wouldn't put it past him to do it.

...before he even linked to the site, I was sure he wasn't in the know, but now I'm starting to wonder...

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 03, 2011, 05:41:19 AM
know who mann is... and i too dont know what to think of him. hard to say.

lots of people are going to come off looking foolish... gee i cant wait for bam. i mean can, and will. but seriously cant wait for fakers to be exposed.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 03, 2011, 07:45:00 AM
I still want to understand how Twitter works.  If we tweet someone, say Arnie or LaToya...do they SEE our tweets if WE follow THEM,  BUT, they don't follow US  ???
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 03, 2011, 07:57:38 AM
Yes Ford, I recently opened an annonymous twitter account and there is a section that says @mentions which shows everyone who @'d you, LOL.  So even if they're not following you back, they can read what you've tweeted them.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on November 03, 2011, 08:57:52 AM
He says MJ died and he said he knows alot that he is not saying.  ARNIE DO TELL! We KNOW your reading.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: bec on November 03, 2011, 09:12:54 AM
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I know what BACK said in 2009 about Klein, and no matter how I look at Klein, I can't see him being good or "in", because otherwise why would BACK say:

"Arnie Klein is on decline. He's desperate and scared shitless. Because he knows it's just a matter of time. Tables will be turned."


For me, Klein deffinitely is wicked, with a hidden agenda and not the good guy. I doubt Michael would rely on Klein, considering BACK's words.

In my opinion, when you look at the information at our disposal, it is clear that Arnie is in on it. This is a theatrical production which has spanned years in the making (set up). Back is a character who's role was to plant back clues... or to set the stage in prequel fashion.

If this post from back is the only reason you believe Arnie is a bad guy, you should probably reevaluate your conclusion.

Front even gave a hint in these matters when he stated that we should not take his words, or anyone else's, as positive proof of anything; or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 03, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
I agree with you Bec.  I think Arnie is "set loose" at this time is the show to send out a message to those who are willing to "see" what is being said by Michael at this time. 
He is acting also.  I think he is pointing to us, of course he HAS sent people to us twice..and if they open their eye, and heart they can see that this is a hoax.  A show.  Who know what all else.  I think Arnie is telling us there is more going on... so is LaToya.  They tell us point blank things, as the catalog...the judicial system..judges...  But, I think there is something ultimately that we'll just have to wait to see, because Michael IS using the MEDICAL field intensely to promote SOME message that we just can't see yet.
Arnie, must have been told to not only point us out, but then to say Michael is dead.  But, others, like Katherine who we trust has said that also.  So, I presume, it's all part of the SHOW.  The act.
Acting.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 03, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
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I agree with you Bec.  I think Arnie is "set loose" at this time is the show to send out a message to those who are willing to "see" what is being said by Michael at this time. 
He is acting also.  I think he is pointing to us, of course he HAS sent people to us twice..and if they open their eye, and heart they can see that this is a hoax.  A show.  Who know what all else.  I think Arnie is telling us there is more going on... so is LaToya.  They tell us point blank things, as the catalog...the judicial system..judges...  But, I think there is something ultimately that we'll just have to wait to see, because Michael IS using the MEDICAL field intensely to promote SOME message that we just can't see yet.
Arnie, must have been told to not only point us out, but then to say Michael is dead.  But, others, like Katherine who we trust has said that also.  So, I presume, it's all part of the SHOW.  The act.
Acting.

Fordtocarr it's all a PART OF THE SHOW ,but you forgot to mention THE DRAMA side  albino/.Remember MEGAmind movie,where we had BAD guy versus GOOD guy???? Well we just have to be careful ,because maybe in the END,the BAD guy,could actually become the GOOD guy,just like it happened in MEGAmind,lol  lolol/!!! Also don' forget the COMEDY side also  geek/!!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Sarahli on November 03, 2011, 07:08:36 PM
Honestly I don't know what to think about Arnold Klein. I don't understand why he hasn't been called as a witness during the trial for example. I keep watching.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 03, 2011, 07:12:50 PM
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Honestly I don't know what to think about Arnold Klein. I don't understand why he hasn't been called as a witness during the trial for example. I keep watching.

same here
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 03, 2011, 07:37:11 PM
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I know what BACK said in 2009 about Klein, and no matter how I look at Klein, I can't see him being good or "in", because otherwise why would BACK say:

"Arnie Klein is on decline. He's desperate and scared shitless. Because he knows it's just a matter of time. Tables will be turned."


For me, Klein deffinitely is wicked, with a hidden agenda and not the good guy. I doubt Michael would rely on Klein, considering BACK's words.

I agree with you.. I have bad vibes on AK.. don't know why.. He is for himself.. He is scared now because he is aware Michael may have something on him.. Maybe giving him demerol, and other drugs.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 03, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
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Honestly I don't know what to think about Arnold Klein. I don't understand why he hasn't been called as a witness during the trial for example. I keep watching.

same here

It's the inclusion/exclusion "prior acts " factor. If you bring in Dr. Arnold Klein to testify on his treatments for Michael, then you have to include EVERY doctor that has ever treated Michael (even if it wasn't recent, it still affected his current physical state of health).

Dr. Klein started treating Micheal in the 1980's and there have been several doctors who have given him subsequent treatment up until present day. To say Arnold Klein's treatments had an effect on Michaels "death" would be like saying every doctor needs to be questioned about their treatments/effects on Michaels overall health.

For example, when Michael was burned in the Pepsi commercial, you could say his present day dependence on sleep aids and painkillers was a direct result of that "very first" pain prescription and sleep aid and that first doctor involved. The doctors thereafter were merely continuing the same treatment regimine.

The defense tried to take a stab at it by bringing up the records Klein had into it (to show a history to drug abuse/doctor enabling), but it would have just opened a big can of worms in the end and just exposed more of Michaels private life than necessary.

So basically with regards to the doctors who treated Michael, its all or nothing.

The prosecution didn't want this because it makes Michael look like a doctor dependant drug addict, and the defense didn't want it because they would spend alot of time examining/questioning a bunch of doctors they cannot prosecute. Lose/Lose on both sides. :|
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 03, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
one finds information everywhere. Michael's death is real but I know much more than i have said.

So either the good old doc isn't in on it or he regrets linking to your website  ;))


That tweet scared me a bit. I wonder what it is that he's not really "saying"..... bounce/

And on that note, if Klein is indeed suspect, I hope Murray is found NOT GUILTY so they can really see what Klein is all about. #FullThrottleShade
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjj4ever777 on November 03, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
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Never forget that the medical theme in this journey is a serious one but it is also exemplary and stands for many many aspects in this journey.
 
 The medical theme triggers our emotions since it concerns each and everybody in the end. This makes it exceptional and trivia at the same moment and an excellent dramaturgical element.
 
 However, as Michael cannot speak out directly and say Mr. xyz from company abc did this and that - since nobody would believe him and he would be drowned in new lawsuits - he is using the medical theme as an allegory to tell his story. Truth by fairy tale.
 
 The documents that were falsified, leaked, discussed in public, those burglars in medical offices may be characters only playing the set up scenario. Remember the letter of intent that was not signed by all parties, the agreement that a fax only from representatives might change the contract duties, the will that was signed one day after Michael's speech in New York etc.
 
 The real scenario is not medical but business with all affiliations.
 Michael has spoken countless times about his issues.
 Nobody believed him or would come up to support him not to speak of getting into his back to help him. The subject was too far from everybody - tycoons discuss contracts, right, well so be it, doesn't concern us.
 
 Arnie building up his face for the tour after much destructive plastic surgery? When was Michael forced to lose his face in public?
 Who did that?
 
 Usually, Arnie gets bad feedback. I wonder if that is correct.
 Michael's face is one of his treasures. You don't choose a doc you cannot rely on when it comes to your assets, right?
 Doesn't mean that there is not a lot more dirt hidden than we notice to date.
 
 A reduction on the medical issues in Doc Murray's trial is overlooking the background. That's why the outcome of this trial is only one step and that's why Michael will not be brought back by it.
 It's still not the right time. The trial has to set additional directives as to where the journey goes and will trigger subsequent events that are required to get to the end of this unveiling.

Grace...I Love You!!!!! "Truth" by Fairy Tale...Brilliance!! This journey keeps getting better and better...I can't wait for the "awakening" to resonate around the Planet...so many layers, with one final goal for mankind!! Blessings LOVE and LIGHT to you!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 03, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
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This really is very interesting.

Klein says that the name of Murray is false, that JUDGEMENT is false and controlled by AEG.

That each day is better. Just missing the final event.

By the way, despite all the controversy I think Klein is part of the hoax.

Me too - but it could be that Klein thinks he's involved in one way when in fact it's something totally different? IDK.

As far as the use of "our" - I think he has it correct. Judges are elected officials and are paid by our taxes so they are "our" judges.

Blessings



The incorrect "our" I was referring to was this tweet he sent:

awkmd Arnold Klein
youtu.be/FHQ9vfqwc7M now is the time you learn who your friends our!
6 hours ago Favorite Reply



The other tweet is the correct use of "our" (the tweet referring to judges taxes etc...) which signifies Klein did misuse the word "our" on the "know who your friends "our" on purpose  ;)

It's not a mistake most people would make if their native tongue is english.  The words are totally different in meaning & pronounciation.

very true... it might sound similar, but different spelling and completely different meaning.... is his twit acc verified? perhaps a poser who doesnt spk eng as first lang...

or perhaps real, but implying they are both testing...

you know what i think i will reserve my judgement of klein... if this is teaching me anything its not to judge until  you know truth... anyway, who am i to judge at all...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Grace on November 04, 2011, 02:23:30 AM
now is the time you learn who your friends  our!
 
 "You get to know your true friends in times of trouble" is trivia.
 If Arnie is not in (and in trouble himself), he will plant stumbling blocks to trigger reactions and use the information we find about it. When you cannot do a job alone, deploy tasks to others. Fishing for sympathy (great we have been linked by so important!) is not any better than using a good team as beagles for the foxes. This is valid for everybody smelling a rat and getting nervous.
 
 
 If Arnie is in, the extract from this tweet could be rather "time, friends, (h)our". How about it being an announcement of further unveiling (which would make much more sense IMO):
 
 now our friends is the time you learn your who!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 04, 2011, 08:49:28 AM
I've been expecting Arnie to Tweet and he sure was last night.  I hope this isn't placed in the wrong place, but I just can't seem to figure out the new forum..at all.  Sorry. 
It sure seems Arnie either has quite the message to the world or he's trying to throw the show off him, which I doubt or he'd just shut up.

awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando Michael hated Branca. Lisa Marie knew, i knew, Suzanne knew, you knew too?
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Evvy has turned into a dishonest witch.....how much did AEG pay her pic.twitter.com/0dDH2Q9
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando you know i did nothing wrong, AEG bought Evvy did they buy you?
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… you and i know the truth why have you not spoken?
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
they tried to bankrupt me, vilify me, rob from me, to distract you from the truth
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… Michael's last Christmas:the Kids,Michael, Carrie and Me.
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
online.wsj.com/article/SB1000… we are creating a land of addicts
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
i tried to talk to the US attorney,homeland security and fbi and they would not listen.
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Pakistan is where all the money came for 9 11 what are we doing
10 hours ago
CBS News
CBSNews CBS News
by awkmd
U.S. pledges financial aid for Pakistan ow.ly/7iAZr
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2011/09/13/aeg… michael never hired murray
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
boardreader.com/thread/Tohme_T… look and learn!
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
facebook.com/topic.php?uid=… read how they raped Michael
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@
@investigativeme you are a total idiot go read a book if you can
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
examiner.com/music-in-birmi… please read
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 learn about Branca
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
AEG,Howard Weitzman and John Branca control the $$$$
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
no the released records of multiple doctors and said they were mine!
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Remember Michael is gone but he cared for his Children. Dont let them be robbed.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
I worry where Michael's money is going? to his children or AEG!
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
the will they of Michaels was signed in LA while he was in NY with Sharpton.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
TMZ attempted to vilify so you would not notice MJ signing back with Branca 7 days before he died
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
i will explain my records were both inaccurate and illegally released.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
remember those were not my records presented in court.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: use_your_illusion on November 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
If Arnie is on MJ side (that I still don't know) then he should be careful what he says, he seems to say he knows a lot and he keeps somewhat, 'outing' people and being very blunt with his tweets.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 04, 2011, 10:46:21 AM
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I've been expecting Arnie to Tweet and he sure was last night.  I hope this isn't placed in the wrong place, but I just can't seem to figure out the new forum..at all.  Sorry. 
It sure seems Arnie either has quite the message to the world or he's trying to throw the show off him, which I doubt or he'd just shut up.

awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando Michael hated Branca. Lisa Marie knew, i knew, Suzanne knew, you knew too?
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Evvy has turned into a dishonest witch.....how much did AEG pay her pic.twitter.com/0dDH2Q9
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando you know i did nothing wrong, AEG bought Evvy did they buy you?
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… you and i know the truth why have you not spoken?5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
they tried to bankrupt me, vilify me, rob from me, to distract you from the truth
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… Michael's last Christmas:the Kids,Michael, Carrie and Me.
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
online.wsj.com/article/SB1000… we are creating a land of addicts
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i tried to talk to the US attorney,homeland security and fbi and they would not listen.
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Pakistan is where all the money came for 9 11 what are we doing
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U.S. pledges financial aid for Pakistan ow.ly/7iAZr
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awkmd Arnold Klein
michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2011/09/13/aeg… michael never hired murray
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awkmd Arnold Klein
boardreader.com/thread/Tohme_T… look and learn!
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awkmd Arnold Klein
facebook.com/topic.php?uid=… read how they raped Michael
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@investigativeme you are a total idiot go read a book if you can :lol: hoot!
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
examiner.com/music-in-birmi… please read
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 learn about Branca
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
AEG,Howard Weitzman and John Branca control the $$$$
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
no the released records of multiple doctors and said they were mine!
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Remember Michael is gone but he cared for his Children. Dont let them be robbed.
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awkmd Arnold Klein
I worry where Michael's money is going? to his children or AEG!
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
the will they of Michaels was signed in LA while he was in NY with Sharpton.
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
TMZ attempted to vilify so you would not notice MJ signing back with Branca 7 days before he died
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awkmd Arnold Klein
i will explain my records were both inaccurate and illegally released.
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awkmd Arnold Klein
remember those were not my records presented in court.



So the fat lady of the opera is singing?.... we already know the song Arnie ;)



I have the notion to think that either;

1) Dr. Klein's twitter account has been hacked

or

2)This man has finally cracked his crackers



It has such a dramatic frenzied element to it that I can't help but giggle (my apologies).  :lol:

But seriously...what the heck is going on? :?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 04, 2011, 03:27:16 PM
  It sounds like he is speaking of something more sinister, maybe these are the people MJ wants weeded out? Branca did get fired by MJ around the time of the Tommy Mottola incident where his investigator's discovered they were funnelling his money into offshore accounts. There is a post on here about it under "Goldman (and) Sachs being investigated." This was also linked to the reason for the second allegations.

 There is definitely a bigger conspiracy going on, let's just believe Michael did what he said he was going to do and outsmart Sony; with their help?

@ use_your_illusion maybe these people are being outed for a specific reason? We'll just have to wait and see, this hoax has been a waiting game after all.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: PureLove on November 04, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
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I've been expecting Arnie to Tweet and he sure was last night.  I hope this isn't placed in the wrong place, but I just can't seem to figure out the new forum..at all.  Sorry. 
It sure seems Arnie either has quite the message to the world or he's trying to throw the show off him, which I doubt or he'd just shut up.

awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando Michael hated Branca. Lisa Marie knew, i knew, Suzanne knew, you knew too?
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awkmd Arnold Klein
Evvy has turned into a dishonest witch.....how much did AEG pay her pic.twitter.com/0dDH2Q9
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awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando you know i did nothing wrong, AEG bought Evvy did they buy you?
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awkmd Arnold Klein
@MikoBrando huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… you and i know the truth why have you not spoken?
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awkmd Arnold Klein
they tried to bankrupt me, vilify me, rob from me, to distract you from the truth
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/sho… Michael's last Christmas:the Kids,Michael, Carrie and Me.
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
online.wsj.com/article/SB1000… we are creating a land of addicts
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
i tried to talk to the US attorney,homeland security and fbi and they would not listen.
5 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Pakistan is where all the money came for 9 11 what are we doing
10 hours ago
CBS News
CBSNews CBS News
by awkmd
U.S. pledges financial aid for Pakistan ow.ly/7iAZr
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2011/09/13/aeg… michael never hired murray
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
boardreader.com/thread/Tohme_T… look and learn!
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
facebook.com/topic.php?uid=… read how they raped Michael
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awkmd Arnold Klein
@
@investigativeme you are a total idiot go read a book if you can
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
examiner.com/music-in-birmi… please read
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 learn about Branca
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
AEG,Howard Weitzman and John Branca control the $$$$
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
no the released records of multiple doctors and said they were mine!
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Remember Michael is gone but he cared for his Children. Dont let them be robbed.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
I worry where Michael's money is going? to his children or AEG!
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
the will they of Michaels was signed in LA while he was in NY with Sharpton.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
TMZ attempted to vilify so you would not notice MJ signing back with Branca 7 days before he died
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
i will explain my records were both inaccurate and illegally released.
10 hours ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
remember those were not my records presented in court.

This man is talking too much to be in on the hoax. He sounds scared and I don't think it is a part of the scenario.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: SimPattyK on November 04, 2011, 03:42:30 PM
He sent me a friend-invitation on my facebook (my ancient personal facebook, as I have a new one now) some months ago...

To be frank I haven't done too much research on him...

I am glad this topic exists, I will try to read everything here as soon as I have some more free time...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 04, 2011, 04:01:53 PM
I don’t think that Klein would be in on the hoax from its onset given the mess he tried to start about Michael being gay and the parentage of Michael’s children early on.   I do, though, believe that his coming here from time to time and reading all the posibilities and evidence got him to thinking and is when he started trying to redeem himself and reneige on some of his damning statements.  The only reason for him to be scared right now is if he is concerned that there is a possibility that Michael is in fact hoaxing and he has a cross to bare when he returns. 
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 04, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
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I don’t think that Klein would be in on the hoax from its onset given the mess he tried to start about Michael being gay and the parentage of Michael’s children early on.   I do, though, believe that his coming here from time to time and reading all the posibilities and evidence got him to thinking and is when he started trying to redeem himself and reneige on some of his damning statements.  The only reason for him to be scared right now is if he is concerned that there is a possibility that Michael is in fact hoaxing and he has a cross to bare when he returns.


You know....that makes a lot of sense what you just said. I 4got how he had claims saying that MJ was gay. Shame on Klein! From his recent tweets, it sounds like he's REALLY trying to save face .....And I mean REALLY bounce/

And I DO notice how the media keeps putting emphasis on the fact that MJ was addicted to Demerol .....It kinda sounds like they're forgetting about what supposedly "killed"  MJ and bringing forth light to what MAY have really been the big issue.....

I'm starting to get highly confused.... :?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: SimPattyK on November 04, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
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@Sim how did he get your account info to add you?
Well I don't know exactly...

You see, at first, before I created the MJ & Elvis are alive FB page, I had been using my FB personal page for communicating with beLIEvers, fans of MJ, Elvis and other artist-fans as well, i was posting my photo-montages and other links and photos, related to the hoax, on that page. So... as people share my montages and as I used to post on official hoax pages too, he must have seen my nickname somewhere and he added me and I accepted. But we never spoke, nor kept any contact.
As I said above I never really took the time to research stuff about him....

here's his FB link : https://www.facebook.com/arnold.klein?ref=pb
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 04, 2011, 04:23:20 PM
There is no proof he was addicted to anything let alone demerol. The "records" show he got doses sporadically if we are to believe them, and considering his health issues, back problems, his dosage isn't unusual.
He could have had other issues with Klein we are unaware of, if any at all.

@Sim thats interesting he sought you out knowing you were a believer. He may just be finding out more about it thus is scared, or he has a role. Not sure of his role whether direct or indirect really. Thanks for your reply :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: SimPattyK on November 04, 2011, 04:43:16 PM
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[...]
@Sim thats interesting he sought you out knowing you were a believer. He may just be finding out more about it thus is scared, or he has a role. Not sure of his role whether direct or indirect really. Thanks for your reply :)
I was also surprised when I saw his name inviting me on FB. At first, being accustomed to so many fakers and posers I didn't believe it was really him. I went on his page and looked at his info, description etc and what he had posted on the wall and it all seems credible, reliable. I really think it's him on that FB page! You're right, maybe he was looking for info or to see the hoax from a beLIEver's page/perspective! Either out of curiosity or .. I don't know for what reason!
I wish I knew someday why he invited me.... maybe someday I will dare to write him in private and ask him directly!

I don't know what his role is in this hoax if he has any role!
I don't know if he's a positive, neutral or negative character in Michael's life and/or hoax.
With the ambiguous aspect of this hoax you can never know for sure!

All I know about him is this:
1. He appeared in several TMZ articles!! and we know that generally TMZ publishes hoax-related hints/clues. But not necessarily everything that TMZ publishes must be hoax-related! So...
2. Then he is linked to Debbie Rowe!! Arnold Klein was the former boss of Debbie Rowe. She was his assistant! That's where Michael met Debbie, at his cabinet! So Debbie is another mysterious character whom can be either IN or OUT of this hoax! very ambiguous info... I am inclined to believe that Debbie is IN on the hoax, especially with the "kids story" & everything... But I don't know for Arnold Klein!
3. Again from a TMZ article we learnt about a "fight" for the GREEN jacket between MJ & Arnold Klein! loll Now this is what I call a clue!! since the clothes play a major part in the hoax , as well as the GREEN color!! But again... reading all your comments here ^^ I really don't know what to believe!

Here below is a montage where I included the TMZ photo with him and Mj wearing that famous GREEN jacket!  But I made this montage long after he invited me on FB and it is the only montage about him that I made. So it wasn't the montage that made him look for me on FB.
So again... I don't know... what to think...
^^ Besides this, I don't know anything else about this doctor.


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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 04, 2011, 06:00:03 PM

awkmd Arnold Klein
you the fans will have the truth....I know the entire awful tale
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awkmd Arnold Klein
MJ lived with me since 1986...the story cannot be told here


...I know the enawkmd Arnold Klein
The truth will soon be in front of you. Phillip Anschutz I know the tale
12 minutes ago

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awkmd Arnold Klein
Furthermore these are not even my records.
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Now I am beyond angry.How can the government of the US allow my records on Mr Jackson to be illegally released violating my civil rights.
13 minutes ago

Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
When they vilified me and released medical records Homeland Security and US Attorney in LA did nothing.
14 minutes ago

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 04, 2011, 06:25:57 PM
awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… barrack should be on trial
1 minute ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 branca should be on trial


WHAT IS HE TELLING US?????  ARE THESE ALL HOAX SITES???
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 04, 2011, 06:30:59 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
you the fans will have the truth....I know the entire awful tale
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I do not know what to think, we shall see in the next few days

awkmd Arnold Klein
MJ lived with me since 1986...the story cannot be told here


...I know the enawkmd Arnold Klein
The truth will soon be in front of you. Phillip Anschutz I know the tale
12 minutes ago

13 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Furthermore these are not even my records.
13 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Now I am beyond angry.How can the government of the US allow my records on Mr Jackson to be illegally released violating my civil rights.
13 minutes ago

Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
When they vilified me and released medical records Homeland Security and US Attorney in LA did nothing.
14 minutes ago








I do not know what to think, we shall see in the next few days
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 04, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… barrack should be on trial
1 minute ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 branca should be on trial


]WHAT IS HE TELLING US?????  ARE THESE ALL HOAX SITES???


this IS craziness. perhaps been hacked? or has he 'worked it out' by sites such as this and therefore wants to be ahead of the pack to reveal it to public. so then post bam, he can be all 'told you so' and 'i was in on it' etc etc


Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 04, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Hacked or not, it's really dangerous now for Arnie, he tells a lot!

Anschutz, Branca.. wow Arnold, you better watch your back now!
Or what happened to your assistant might happen to you, man.
Scary  pale/

Edit: Ok. He tells nothing new - fans who looked deeper know that stuff.
But he was close to Michael and whole dirty pond, so maybe he knows something apart
from fansite info! maybe something he can confirm.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 04, 2011, 07:04:23 PM
Okay...I'm not a fan of coincidence.

Dr. Klein just happens to be blurting this stuff out right around the close of the trial and when the jury goes to deliberations (all this information has been out there for the last two years and he picks now to start flapping his gums?) Hacked account, crazy or scared...I don't buy it  8-)

But even with everything he is saying, it's not a public viewable twitter account (so it's a "controlled leak") filtered down through the forums (most notably ours).

Add to that, the extra day for preparation for "closing arguments" and you now have the jury carrying over deliberations till Monday 11/7...this makes for a long weekend of speculation and revelation by media reports.

I bet NPG will be following Conrad Murray around like a puppy (lots of articles from TMZ)

.....something has shifted....seems like there's a change in the game plan. Or a redirect to the original plan that got off course.

....something just feels very odd about all this :?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 04, 2011, 07:07:40 PM
Well, Aidan, he may be telling nothing NEW, and YOU may have already known it all, I didn't, but, it's the fact that his IS POINTING to these things, as OUR site that interests me.
He could point anyplace, or say anything, but because he points us and other places out, I'm wondering why and what he's trying to say.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 04, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Maybe he knows the truth IS near, and truth won't be nice to him
among others, so he is in panic and tries to "clean" himself,
to win sympathy or something like that.. It's not just for attention - why
locking your account if so  confused/
I don't really like him, but he should know what serious ppl he's shouting about now.
He and LaToya, there can be real danger as they do know names
we know too, but we're nobody and not even in US,
 and they are right there in the circle and know things for sure..  errrr
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 04, 2011, 07:14:36 PM
Well, thanks to Klein, maybe some fans will stop concentrating on Murray
and Murray only! The picture is so much bigger, Chernoff said it all - just a little
fish in a dirty pond.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 04, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… barrack should be on trial
1 minute ago

awkmd Arnold Klein
mj-777.com/?p=2759 branca should be on trial


]WHAT IS HE TELLING US?????  ARE THESE ALL HOAX SITES???


this IS craziness. perhaps been hacked? or has he 'worked it out' by sites such as this and therefore wants to be ahead of the pack to reveal it to public. so then post bam, he can be all 'told you so' and 'i was in on it' etc etc

I highly doubt he was hacked, but it's very suspicious how all the sites he links to are hoax sites, it's not like he's finding information that *just happens to be* a hoax site. It's a clue ! 8-)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 04, 2011, 08:38:08 PM
awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… Deepok you said mj asked you for oxycontin--you lie....sell videos!
  He's on his nightly roll..............
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 04, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… Deepok you said mj asked you for oxycontin--you lie....sell videos!
  He's on his nightly roll..............

Funny thing is...he can always claim his account got hacked, that he said none of it  ;)


...Quote:"they" have made illegal loans, stolen my identity, written checks, taken out loans, open and closed bank accounts, and depleted my retirement fund!    suspicious//
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 04, 2011, 09:33:21 PM
I really don't know what side Dr Klein is on but the timing is very suspicious.

I am of the belief that to be able to clean up the damage that has been done to Michael's image every lie that has been told needs to come out in a way that the world finally learns the truth. The allegations, the children's parentage, the drug issues, the money issues, health, etc., all of them have to be brought up in order for the world to learn the truth. People don't normally remember one person talking but they do pay attention to gossip and rumors. Sad but true. They do pay attention, say, if Dr Klein or Michael's bodyguard come out and say they donated sperm. Then, piece by piece, the truth is revealed in a way that nobody can argue. Of course, this is just my thoughts on the issue.

I work in the medical field and I don't know of one physician who would act like Dr Klein is acting right now. His behavior is very interesting and worth watching to see what happens.  There is a saying that if you let a liar talk long enough they'll expose their own lies. I hope he keeps talking so that we can find out if he's telling the truth or not.

Blessings
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 04, 2011, 11:16:42 PM
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I really don't know what side Dr Klein is on but the timing is very suspicious.

I am of the belief that to be able to clean up the damage that has been done to Michael's image every lie that has been told needs to come out in a way that the world finally learns the truth. The allegations, the children's parentage, the drug issues, the money issues, health, etc., all of them have to be brought up in order for the world to learn the truth. People don't normally remember one person talking but they do pay attention to gossip and rumors. Sad but true. They do pay attention, say, if Dr Klein or Michael's bodyguard come out and say they donated sperm. Then, piece by piece, the truth is revealed in a way that nobody can argue. Of course, this is just my thoughts on the issue.

I work in the medical field and I don't know of one physician who would act like Dr Klein is acting right now. His behavior is very interesting and worth watching to see what happens.  There is a saying that if you let a liar talk long enough they'll expose their own lies. I hope he keeps talking so that we can find out if he's telling the truth or not.

Blessings

I highly agree w/you. I too have never seen a doc go about things in the manner that he is. As I said earlier, doesn't he have better things to do besides browse hoax sites then respond via twitter? LoL I'm still confused as to what his motive is ...whether it be good or bad, but something shady is definitely going on. He's throwing all these ppl under the bus either exposing them for what they may or may not be, or either that, he's covering his own behind since he seems suspect to some of us beLIEvers. Just my opinion.

I know this is off topic but just came to mind, did anyone notice how Katherine went back to the court house to pick up signs from the fans? Now what on earth would she want with signs??? I know who WOULD want fans signs though....Michael himself! lol. Then the fact that they were staying @ a downtown hotel had the hoax alarm going off in my brain. haha.

But back on topic....I hope Klein isn't really on the shady list. It's somewhat appearing that way in my opinion. I guess we'll see though. Sooner or later, the full truth will reveal itself.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 04, 2011, 11:41:21 PM
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I really don't know what side Dr Klein is on but the timing is very suspicious.

I am of the belief that to be able to clean up the damage that has been done to Michael's image every lie that has been told needs to come out in a way that the world finally learns the truth. The allegations, the children's parentage, the drug issues, the money issues, health, etc., all of them have to be brought up in order for the world to learn the truth. People don't normally remember one person talking but they do pay attention to gossip and rumors. Sad but true. They do pay attention, say, if Dr Klein or Michael's bodyguard come out and say they donated sperm. Then, piece by piece, the truth is revealed in a way that nobody can argue. Of course, this is just my thoughts on the issue.

I work in the medical field and I don't know of one physician who would act like Dr Klein is acting right now. His behavior is very interesting and worth watching to see what happens.  There is a saying that if you let a liar talk long enough they'll expose their own lies. I hope he keeps talking so that we can find out if he's telling the truth or not.

Blessings

Voiceforthesilent, you are absolutely right, I am kind of in the medical field but I have friends who are doctors, I have spoken to them about Klein, and they told me the same thing you just posted. Very strange indeed. Hope Klein continues talking.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 05, 2011, 03:56:22 AM
Klein seems genuinely angry and I agree Snoopy, his timing is indeed interesting. Scared or/because the hoax will be coming to an end and he has to "save himself". Either way the directing people to hoax sites is telling in and of itself.
His attorney was on HLN again saying he has important things he wants to speak about in terms of what he believes the public is unaware of. Wonder what he has to say this time?

@SimPatty good observations and they mean SOMEthing. You should definitely try contacting him, he usually answers most people from what I see. All this talk of "truth coming out" from everyone and "conspirators" points to both hoax and sting elements, the rest is vague.

Voiceforthesilent his behavior does seem erratic, not at all professional.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
Arnie is on my FB too, and has quite a message this morn...(I know this should be in another area, but I hate to start another one while we're talking about Arnie already lately.  Move it if you need to ;)

Arnold W. Klein
i have grown tired of judges and commissioners who behave as if they were feudal nobility while we, the people, seem no more to them but peasants who must rise when they enter in their 16th clergyman's robes, hold our tongues until spoken to and who may be imprisoned merely for speaking our mind in their presence without their permission ("First Amendment be damned!") Think about it - even the more "progressive" judges unthinkingly continue to behave according to the norms of medieval aristocracy in a democratic age. I have been vilified,robbed,my civil rites have been violated,my records forged ,my will illegally changed and a media circus created about me that enabled the embezzlement of 20 million dollars. The courts illegally released medical records that were not mine and the police, homeland security ,the FBI and US Attorney failed to protect me. Again my will was changed altering the heirs while I was having cardiac surgery with no notary present. I think it is time to reveal the tale.If you think Murray did not have enablers assisting him in his actions just remember Michael signed no agreement hiring him and his checks were signed by AEG…AWK
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 11:56:47 AM
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… hoefflin toured with Jackson giving him Propofol
2 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… why was hoefflin not called to testify
3 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… the Dr who started michael on propofol.
4 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
examiner.com/jackson-family… he was not a junkie but had insomnia created by incompetent doctors since the 80's.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: roxy101 on November 05, 2011, 01:08:56 PM
Has anyone tried calling the numbers on Klein's page, etc.  Is it possible to even reach him? I'm in the LA area and would love to get into contact with him but don't even know where I'd begin.  Ideas?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 01:31:42 PM
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Has anyone tried calling the numbers on Klein's page, etc.  Is it possible to even reach him? I'm in the LA area and would love to get into contact with him but don't even know where I'd begin.  Ideas?
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I haven't tried the number, but you CAN get in touch with him.  I have. 
Do you want a procedure or just info???
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: roxy101 on November 05, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Both please.  That's great that you've contacted him.
I figure, since I'm in the area, I might as well contact him to talk to him first hand. 
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 05, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… hoefflin toured with Jackson giving him Propofol2 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… why was hoefflin not called to testify
3 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… the Dr who started michael on propofol.
4 minutes ago
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
examiner.com/jackson-family… he was not a junkie but had insomnia created by incompetent doctors since the 80's.


My apologies...I've probably posted more on this thread than I have on all the topics in this forum combined! :roll:

I just can't stroll past a two-headed snake and ignore it (just an analogy/no pun intended or offense to Dr. Klein).

Ironically, I wrote a post on the TIAI Sept 27 thread that is right along the lines of his latest tweets. The question was asked why was Dr. Kleins medical records presented in court but he was not called to testify?

Here's the post:

« on: November 03, 2011, 06:37:47 PM »

Quote from: Sarahli on November 03, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
Honestly I don't know what to think about Arnold Klein. I don't understand why he hasn't been called as a witness during the trial for example. I keep watching.
Quote from: MissG on November 03, 2011, 05:12:50 PM
same here


My response:

It's the inclusion/exclusion "prior acts " factor. If you bring in Dr. Arnold Klein to testify on his treatments for Michael, then you have to include EVERY doctor that has ever treated Michael (even if it wasn't recent, it still affected his current physical state of health).

Dr. Klein started treating Micheal in the 1980's and there have been several doctors who have given him subsequent treatment up until present day. To say Arnold Klein's treatments had an effect on Michaels "death" would be like saying every doctor needs to be questioned about their treatments/effects on Michaels overall health.

For example, when Michael was burned in the Pepsi commercial, you could say his present day dependence on sleep aids and painkillers was a direct result of that "very first" pain prescription and sleep aid and that first doctor involved. The doctors thereafter were merely continuing the same treatment regimine.

The defense tried to take a stab at it by bringing up the records Klein had into it (to show a history to drug abuse/doctor enabling), but it would have just opened a big can of worms in the end and just exposed more of Michaels private life than necessary.

So basically with regards to the doctors who treated Michael, its all or nothing.

The prosecution didn't want this because it makes Michael look like a doctor dependant drug addict, and the defense didn't want it because they would spend alot of time examining/questioning a bunch of doctors they cannot prosecute. Lose/Lose on both sides.  


Fast forward to present day tweets....

I guess Dr. Klein is now saying the same thing (apparently he wants his day in court to prove he wasn't one of the doctors responsible for Michaels prior drug/propofol dependancy), and is clearly throwing names out for the media to catch and question. Clearly doing so would lead to a corporate conspiracy investigation. (And if Murray is found guilty, it might do just that)

.....I suspect this will all turn into another thread because we definitely haven't heard the last of it from Dr. Klein....not even remotely! :?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 05, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Klein is running scared because regardless of the outcome of the case, the way doctors are allowed to push and peddle to the upper echelan is about to meet with a dramatic change.  This case has brought major attention to the doctor feel goods who parade around and hide behind the masks of their professions.  Their actions iwll now be called to the table and their money bags will dwindle under the pressure.  I believe that Klein fears he will be in trouble should this case spinoff into an investigation of the doctors and others implicated in these proceedings.  His name has topped the list by far and his records were used.  If anyone is further investigated, I’d bet 9 to 10 that his name will be at the top of the list right along with AEG and others I do not care to mention.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 05, 2011, 02:18:02 PM
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Klein is running scared because regardless of the outcome of the case, the way doctors are allowed to push and peddle to the upper echelan is about to meet with a dramatic change.  This case has brought major attention to the doctor feel goods who parade around and hide behind the masks of their professions.  Their actions iwll now be called to the table and their money bags will dwindle under the pressure.  I believe that Klein fears he will be in trouble should this case spinoff into an investigation of the doctors and others implicated in these proceedings.  His name has topped the list by far and his records were used.  If anyone is further investigated, I’d bet 9 to 10 that his name will be at the top of the list right along with AEG and others I do not care to mention.

If he's knows he's at the top of the list....then it sounds like he wants to take everyone else down with him!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 02:19:09 PM
Roxy, I'd just go ahead an call his office number seeing as you live out there.  Where in Wonderland do you live?  Lucky girl!!
I'd be prepared to have quite a wait, as he sure seems busy.

Snoopy, I know what you mean about this thread.  The trial has us on stand-by and Arnie's tweets just keep on coming..seemingly full of clues.
I haven't figured out yet either why he wasn't in court other than, he sure seems to have a different story than the trial does.  If I believed Michael is really gone, I'd think maybe Arnie wasn't in court because they were going after him in another "sting" of his own.  But, as he probably could've been a HUGE key player in this trial, and wasn't again it points to hoax to me and Arnie is a person in the know and is serving his role at this time for some reason.

I can't think he's a bad doctor, as it appears that he's doctored everyone out here for as long long years.  Surely, he'd have ruined himself long ago if he were crooked.  Bad people tend to fall in years, not decades!

But, we'll see...it's quite a ride isn't it!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 05, 2011, 02:27:29 PM
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Roxy, I'd just go ahead an call his office number seeing as you live out there.  Where in Wonderland do you live?  Lucky girl!!
I'd be prepared to have quite a wait, as he sure seems busy.

Snoopy, I know what you mean about this thread.  The trial has us on stand-by and Arnie's tweets just keep on coming..seemingly full of clues.
I haven't figured out yet either why he wasn't in court other than, he sure seems to have a different story than the trial does.  If I believed Michael is really gone, I'd think maybe Arnie wasn't in court because they were going after him in another "sting" of his own.  But, as he probably could've been a HUGE key player in this trial, and wasn't again it points to hoax to me and Arnie is a person in the know and is serving his role at this time for some reason.

I can't think he's a bad doctor, as it appears that he's doctored everyone out here for as long long years.  Surely, he'd have ruined himself long ago if he were crooked.  Bad people tend to fall in years, not decades!

But, we'll see...it's quite a ride isn't it!!

My head is spinning at this point...a "guilty" verdict for Murray could spin this in a whole other direction (which may be the plan) like you said, a sting on the other doctors including Klein or perhaps an "innocent" verdict for Murray means they are just going after Klein next (which might be why his records were introduced in court). Either way, Klein is in the hotseat.

...ugh! this is getting messy...and yes, buckle up...it's going to be a wild ride!
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 05, 2011, 02:27:56 PM
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Has anyone tried calling the numbers on Klein's page, etc.  Is it possible to even reach him? I'm in the LA area and would love to get into contact with him but don't even know where I'd begin.  Ideas?

Why not make an appointment to go visit him, you need a dermotologist.. Just for consulation. I would if I lived in LA.. Unfortunately I live too far.. This is a suggestion.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: roxy101 on November 05, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
FordtoCarr, thanks.  Wish me luck.
I actually live in the Orange County area, but I make trips out to LA etc when I can to do some Michaeling.
If I may ask, how did you get into contact with him? E-mail?

I'm not entirely sure what to say when I do contact him.  That I'd like to talk to him about Michael? I feel like that would get me nowhere other than hung up on haha.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: roxy101 on November 05, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
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Has anyone tried calling the numbers on Klein's page, etc.  Is it possible to even reach him? I'm in the LA area and would love to get into contact with him but don't even know where I'd begin.  Ideas?

Why not make an appointment to go visit him, you need a dermotologist.. Just for consulation. I would if I lived in LA.. Unfortunately I live too far.. This is a suggestion.

That's good.  If it comes down to it, I may.  I'm actually also in school right now, majoring in Biology and hoping to attend Med School in the future.  I was thinking something along the lines of maybe asking him for advice?-A mentor of sorts, or something.  Yet, I feel like maybe that would be too sneaky.  Although, I wouldn't be lying.  I really do want a mentor ha. 
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 02:39:23 PM
I'd make and appointment, but you never know, he may have other doctors in there too.  I don't think I'd talk to him about Michael, I think anything he has to tell will be told when he wants to tell it.  JMO

I just sent him a msg and he answered it..just a sentence but that was nice :)  Not about Michael. 
I do think he read this thread..or MORE, because he had linked to us..so, your posts prob. are already seen, and if you'd wanted to talk to him about Michael... good luck now...lol

We have to face it...we get from Michael what Michael wants, when he wants.  All we can do is look out, try to understand and wait.

Let us know what you decide.  BTW...I've always planned on going out there...out to Garden Grove actually, where I had family growing up.  That's by you isn't it??  :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: roxy101 on November 05, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Haha, yes, you're right.  If he has read it, then I guess there goes that.  But really, if he's already tweeting like crazy about this stuff, I guess it maybe wouldn't hurt to try to get it from him- in other words, to ask him what he's trying to accomplish with all of these tweets.  But then again, we'll see.  In any case, I would want to talk to him about the medical field, so, hopefully he'd at least be kind enough to do that.

Yes, Garden Grove is very nearby! I go there often.  I have friends who live there.  Let me know if you ever make it out.  I love meeting Michael fans in person.  :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 05, 2011, 03:01:49 PM
I would REALLY really love to have a one to one with Arnie.  That would be priceless.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 05, 2011, 05:51:38 PM
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Has anyone tried calling the numbers on Klein's page, etc.  Is it possible to even reach him? I'm in the LA area and would love to get into contact with him but don't even know where I'd begin.  Ideas?

Why not make an appointment to go visit him, you need a dermotologist.. Just for consulation. I would if I lived in LA.. Unfortunately I live too far.. This is a suggestion.

That's good.  If it comes down to it, I may.  I'm actually also in school right now, majoring in Biology and hoping to attend Med School in the future.  I was thinking something along the lines of maybe asking him for advice?-A mentor of sorts, or something.  Yet, I feel like maybe that would be too sneaky.  Although, I wouldn't be lying.  I really do want a mentor ha. 

Very good idea, make an appointment first for consultation.. see what he tells you and than tell him that you are majoring in biology and you need his input.. If you want a mentor, you are barking at the wrong tree lol.. You need to find yourself an honest mentor.. Too bad my doctor friend would have been a good mentor for you. Unfortunately he lives too far.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 05, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
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Arnie is totally in on it. Shifty-eyed Klein would have to have MJ's post-mortum permission to discuss his medical records without violating HIPAA regulations.

Posted May 5, 2010:

Shifty Eyed Klein rides again

So Klein calls up TMZ live to proclaim that Michael Jackson was gay and Klein’s employee (son???) was the love of his life. Ok Klein, now you’ve got everyone’s attention. Fan or non-fan, who didn’t get wind of this one? It’s tailor made for gossip.

I found this article which spawned this post,

http://www.salon.com/news/environment/vital_signs/2009/07/13/dr_arnold_klein

Well seems Klein has a small problem. He has violated HIPAA laws…. not once, not twice, not even recently, but many times over the course of the past 10 months. Seems every single time he has gone media whoring, Klein has violated this law.

    "Klein began by revealing personal details about his friendship with the singer. To my surprise, he then divulged facts about Jackson that only a physician knows about a patient. In describing his first meeting with Jackson, Klein noted how the singer had “a butterfly rash and he also had severe crusting you could see on the anterior portion of his scalp.” He subsequently “did a biopsy” on Jackson and diagnosed him with Lupus, an autoimmune disorder that causes those and other symptoms.

    Klein went on to reveal many other details, like how he was “rebuilding” Jackson’s face before his comeback concert. On the subject of drug use, Klein continued to chat up the audience. He admitted to providing Jackson with Demerol to sedate him and stated that, contrary to reports, Jackson was not “riddled with needle marks” (though Klein told King he never examined his entire body). Perhaps most revealingly, Klein, as if he had Jackson’s chart in front of him, dished about the singer’s past medical history. “Michael, at one time, had an addiction,” he said. “And he went to England and he withdrew that addiction at a secure setting, where he went off of drugs altogether. And what I told Michael when I met him in this present situation when I was seeing him, that I had to keep reducing the dosage of what he was on, because he came to me with a huge tolerance level.”

This is a problem for Klein because he has revealed intimate medical details on one of his patients.  The HIPAA law expressly prohibits this, explained here:

    "Basically, the law forbids medical professionals from disclosing health information unless a patient provides consent to do so. Among other things, HIPAA is the reason that your doctor can’t fax a letter to you or transfer your records to another doctor without your filling out permission forms. It’s the reason the mother of a teenage patient of mine, a nurse, was disciplined when she looked at the medical records of her own son. It’s also the reason you’ll never see me, or any other physician, reveal the identities of our patients — without their consent — when we discuss or write about them."

Klein could face sanctions, fines, and disciplinary proceedings as a medical professional for violating this law. And Klein is of course aware of this law and the line he has crossed as exposed here in this statement released by his lawyers shortly following 6-25-09:

    “Dr. Klein is aware of media reports connecting him to Michael Jackson. Because of patient confidentiality, Dr. Klein will make no statement on any reports or allegations. Out of respect for his patients and adherence to federal HIPAA regulations, Dr. Klein asks that the media not contact him or his patients, nor interfere with their medical treatments. Like millions of Michael’s fans around the world, Dr. Klein is saddened by Michael’s death and extends his condolences to the family.”

Following this statement, Klein set off on the talk show circuit.

What makes this situation truly odd is this. Klein touts himself “dermatologist to the stars”. By “betraying” Michael, Klein has committed virtual career suicide. Tell me what celebrity wants to continue to be a patient of shifty eyed, loose lips Klein, now that he is acting as the tabloid source for all things juicy following the “death” of one of his high profile clients? Call me crazy but I don’t see a lot of Hollywood’s A list signing up to be the next source for fodder.

If this was for real, Klein’s office would be instantly transformed into a ghost town with nothing on the book. Suddenly this man should be experiencing a whole lot of free time for his willful sharing of personal information. Why in the world would Klein DO this?

Really the whole thing makes no sense UNLESS Klein is covered under one of the follwoing two loopholes in this law.

    -Klein is telling LIES, which does not violate the HIPAA law because the information is not accurate, or
    -Michael gave Klein consent to speak publically about his medical conditions

The author of the referenced article closed with this statement:

    "At the same time, said Phillips, it’s possible that Jackson may have given Klein permission to discuss his PHI, or private health information, in public. In that case, Phillips [Stephen K. Phillips, a healthcare attorney in San Francisco] said, “you haven’t violated the law by doing so, unless and until that authorization is withdrawn.” I tried to contact Klein to clarify these important points several times, but never received a response. His attorney didn’t get back to me either."

So Klein could be straight up lying… and free and clear under the law… but playing a very dangerous game with his career, or Michael is directing him to talk. Bottom line,  when you look at the law, and the facts, Klein is good for the hoax.

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/shifty-eyed-klein-rides-again/






This post is very interesting, why Arnold Klein was going to put at risk their profession and reputation with all these messages?, he knows he is well known among the followers of Michael, by putting a link in this forum in your twitter?, what the heck you are interested in Arnold Klein what we think we?, speaks all these things by knows that there is any risk, and nobody is going to sue.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjj4ever777 on November 05, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
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awkmd Arnold Klein
mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-a… Deepok you said mj asked you for oxycontin--you lie....sell videos!
  He's on his nightly roll..............

The first thing that jumped out at me are the initials before  "Arnie's"  name...AWKMD, this can be perceived in 2 different ways..It could be his initails AWK MD. but i saw "AWaKend MinD"!..........OK Mikey, I am officially seeing "signs" EVERYWHERE!!!!  /white flag/

Blessings LIGHT and LOVE to all!!!!! BE LOVE>>>BE "GOD"S GLOW"
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: PureLove on November 05, 2011, 07:42:37 PM
 WTF??

Arnie has been tweeting like his pants are on fire. This is fishy. And I still believe that he is so much scared and trying to save his ass.  suspicious//
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 05, 2011, 08:04:24 PM
Whoever reads his tweets, please keep them reposted here.
They are extremely interesting and have to be shared  :mrgreen:
He is indeed on fire!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 05, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
some contradictions in his tweets:
awkmd Arnold Klein
you the fans will have the truth....I know the entire awful tale
5 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
MJ lived with me since 1986...the story cannot be told here
5 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
The truth will soon be in front of you. Phillip Anschutz I know the tale!
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Why the FBI,Police nor Homeland Security did not react is the story of how greed runs America.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
How and why this happened you will soon learn.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Then my will gets illegally altered and the heirs changed without a notary public.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Then they create a media circus of my life so the public can not see the truth
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Furthermore these are not even my records.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Now I am beyond angry.How can the government of the US allow my records on Mr Jackson to be illegally released violating my civil rights.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
When they vilified me and released medical records Homeland Security and US Attorney in LA did nothing.
4 Nov


(sorry for post presentation. don´t have edit buttons)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 05, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
-"MJ lived with me since 1986...the story cannot be told here"- WHP?O__o

He seems very nervous. He is reading blogs and forums looking for "evidence".
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 05, 2011, 08:26:45 PM
Which particular contradictions?  suspicious//

We just should let him say it all  :mrgreen: I hope he gonna tweet some more! He's definitely desperate  fresse/ and scared. Still can't decide how big of a liar he is though.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 05, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
Here one of the contradictions:
awkmd Arnold Klein
Furthermore these are not even my records.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Now I am beyond angry.How can the government of the US allow my records on Mr Jackson to be illegally released violating my civil rights.

His records are illegaly erased but btw those are not his records?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 05, 2011, 08:33:35 PM
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Here one of the contradictions:
awkmd Arnold Klein
Furthermore these are not even my records.
4 Nov
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
Now I am beyond angry.How can the government of the US allow my records on Mr Jackson to be illegally released violating my civil rights.

His records are illegaly erased but btw those are not his records?

I think what it is -is that he's throwing the shady governmental system under the bus among the other docs he has mentioned and thrown under the bus as well.  He makes it a point to talk about how his records were illegally erased....reminds me of how the surveillance tapes in MJ's house were erased and only one tape was shown of ppl entering and leaving his house. Idk....just my two cents on it. lol :)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
We need to be careful when we post these tweets cuz they are getting posted twice....
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 05, 2011, 08:36:21 PM
i just tried to help...

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Whoever reads his tweets, please keep them reposted here.
They are extremely interesting and have to be shared  :mrgreen:
He is indeed on fire!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 05, 2011, 08:44:37 PM
AWWW  I don't mean to sound mean... :(
I'm sorry.  It's just there are soooo many of his tweets that if we double post them...well...you know...
I try to check first before I post them.
Really, I didn't mean it to be mean or bossy...just helpful.
Forgive me sister?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: neversaynever on November 05, 2011, 09:16:23 PM
He was just on CNN - he is now speaking to the media.  One of the reporters went to his house today. He claims to have been in Paris when Michael had the "extra" Demerol injections in his office. He says the medical records used in court were not his and the defense is wrong. It was associates of his in his office that may have injected Michael. He also made it clear again that Michael was ADDICTED to propoful and he tried to stop him many times. Arnie says he is tired of hearing the defense use him as a scape goat for the Demerol.
Very interesting indeed. Did anyone else catch this? 
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: bec on November 05, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
I think the Twitter shows are exactly that. Jermaine, Paris, Randy, Obie, Klein, etc... each has a story to tell and a character to play.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 05, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
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He was just on CNN - he is now speaking to the media.  One of the reporters went to his house today. He claims to have been in Paris when Michael had the "extra" Demerol injections in his office. He says the medical records used in court were not his and the defense is wrong. It was associates of his in his office that may have injected Michael. He also made it clear again that Michael was ADDICTED to propoful and he tried to stop him many times. Arnie says he is tired of hearing the defense use him as a scape goat for the Demerol.
Very interesting indeed. Did anyone else catch this? 





He had not said before otherwise if i am not mistaken,. that Michael was not addicted?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: neversaynever on November 05, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
I believe so. He now made it a point to tell this reporter that he "rescued" him once in Las Vegas by sleeping on the floor of the hotel room and getting some doctor out of there that was giving him propofol. And he mentioned another time he had to fly somewhere else to do the same thing. I wish we could get a copy of this. It was less than 5 minutes and I just happened to turn on CNN News. Don Lemon had to make it a point to say that this should not sway the outcome for the defense and that "anyway" the jury should not be watching this. Arnie continues to claim that the defense used documents that were not his.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: neversaynever on November 05, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
Bec, I agree with you.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 05, 2011, 10:05:02 PM
Why now that lack little time for the jury of the verdict appear first Tito and Rebbie and now Arnold Klein talking about addictions?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 06, 2011, 01:54:32 AM
Lol Snoopy he does seem to be grabbing everyone by the legs to drag them down too.

I do wonder why Dr. Hoefflin wasn't called to testify IF in fact he got MJ  addicted to the same substance he alledgedly died from. Why is Klein constantly being brought up when he supposedly gave him a completely different drug? There is no relation. Hoefflin would of been asked about the frequency of propofol use and if he had administered it before to MJ ect. Ofcourse he wouldn't incriminate himself but even so, an investigation into his past would be done outside of this trial.
And Klein says doctors "created" Michael's insomnia? Since when? His insomnia started young from not being able to "come down" after performing; not drugs.
Klein is also speaking of a more sinister scenario with government help, but the hoax site links give a different take. What would his "role" be? Crazy doctor? Lol

@MissG I too noticed the contradictions; one minute his rights were violated by his records being presented in court, then they were not his records at all. He says he was out of town when they were administered possibly by office help, (again confirming they were from his office), and then saying it never happened at all.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: finfin on November 06, 2011, 04:14:46 AM
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I believe so. He now made it a point to tell this reporter that he "rescued" him once in Las Vegas by sleeping on the floor of the hotel room and getting some doctor out of there that was giving him propofol. And he mentioned another time he had to fly somewhere else to do the same thing. I wish we could get a copy of this. It was less than 5 minutes and I just happened to turn on CNN News. Don Lemon had to make it a point to say that this should not sway the outcome for the defense and that "anyway" the jury should not be watching this. Arnie continues to claim that the defense used documents that were not his.
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He was just on CNN - he is now speaking to the media.  One of the reporters went to his house today. He claims to have been in Paris when Michael had the "extra" Demerol injections in his office. He says the medical records used in court were not his and the defense is wrong. It was associates of his in his office that may have injected Michael. He also made it clear again that Michael was ADDICTED to propoful and he tried to stop him many times. Arnie says he is tired of hearing the defense use him as a scape goat for the Demerol.
Very interesting indeed. Did anyone else catch this?

Here is part of the interview that will air on 7th November, thanks to themjconspiracy for the YouTube video

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2011/11/05/exclusive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUCpNAXWSE

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUCpNAXWSE [/youtube]
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 06, 2011, 04:36:06 AM
I share the view with those who think he is scared. He seems scared.
I still also remember how Harvey was saying: Arnie was a very very close friend of MJ.

My questions here are:
- why he was not put on a stand for trial as witness? both sides keep on
 referencing to him
- if he says, his records were actually forged, took illegally, altered... is he going to sue those who did it?
- is he looking at this pattern and is therefore scared: Frank DiLeo - dead, Peter Lopez - dead, who is next?



Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 06, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
Interesting you reference the deaths ForstAMoon, considering Coroner Chief Harvey tweeted "Three can keep a secret if two are dead."
All the people dying is strange who knows what he was referencing.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 06, 2011, 05:18:28 AM
Yes, these deaths could scare the .... out of anyone "close",
so Klein can be genuinely scared. Obviously, too many deaths and Lopez was obviously murdered. We'll never know about Frank, he wasn't too healthy so we'll never know.

Guys, it's not "addicted to Propofol" - it's not physically addictive, it's not recreational drug too. It can be dependency as during his insomniac days someone was giving him Propofol or another hypnotic to "knock him out", and Mike could sort of establish "connection" in his mind that it's the only way he can get rest.
I feel like common people think of that as of heroin addiction or something  :|. It's not "feel good!" drug.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 06, 2011, 06:02:16 AM
Well it's actually reported by people who have been under that some experience brief "euphoria" and feel great, some feel horrible.
Addiction is addiction regardless of whether one is "street drugs" or prescribed by a doctor. Same thing and more people die from prescription drug abuse than street drugs.
Being an addict doesn't make someone a bad person at all. But I dont think he was addicted at all given his performances on tour were perfection and having been under anesthesia before, its side effects for me were lasting. No way could he have done that everynight and be performing like he did. I could be wrong though ;).
There is also no such thing as an amazing father who was/is a severe addict.

As for the other points about the deaths ect. he could ofcourse be afraid of something.
I too am posting more in this thread than any other lol.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 06, 2011, 08:01:28 AM
awkmd Arnold Klein
…anglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/tag/arnold-kle… interesting!
4 hours ago

Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
abcnews.go.com/US/deliberatio… i never addicted Michael to anything but good medical care.
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abcnews.go.com/US/deliberatio… In may I was not in us---the defense covered the signature on the records suggesting it was me

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suzanne Martin's new show ...she was there too
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@DrPaulNassif incredible party Stan Lee.John Baldessari,RuPaul,Dick and Pat van Patten, , Dyan Cannon, etc etc
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Arnold Klein
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@PetersPixieLove Also I am on the FDA and an authority on addiction. pic.twitter.com/5X2lA2AQ
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Arnold Klein
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@PetersPixieLove you can't even spell!!!
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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@PetersPixieLove Are you psychotic? I invented injected collagen,Botox and fillers. have you done too much pixie dust?
14 hours ago
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 06, 2011, 08:10:03 AM
I think we'll just have to watch and see what transpires here.  If Arnie is a true bad guy, and Michael is dead, then they'll get him into court too. 
If this is a hoax, and Michael is alive, then I presume Arnie is in the know and playing his role.
Or, he maybe don't know it's a hoax?
I will just wait, like the rest of the hoax and see the outcome before I become one of those judging someone from the media.  I mean, Michael was slandered in media too from interviews!!  And things written that he said! 
I'll just watch and wait.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 06, 2011, 08:16:01 AM
Arnie had better watch it, he’s pulling a Conrad Murray and throwing himself into the spotlight with all this addiction talk.  If you don’t know your history, you are doomed to repeat it.  If this is a sting operation against Dr. Feelgoods, he’s talking his way straight to the top of that list of alleged perps.  If you’re reading this forum Arnie, take a hint, shut the f@ck up.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 06, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
Aaand he opened his twitter, now everyone can go and read.

Yes, he contradicts himself nonstop  :lol:
"He was an addict!"
"He for sure was not an addict!" and so on.

Make up your mind, Dr.

I still insist dependency and addiction are two different things. Most of us take painkillers when we're in pain, like
headache or chronic pains etc. Most of us had a joint at college every now and then.  Those of us with insomnia  will HAVE to take pills each night. Are we addicts? Heck no.
Dependant? Maybe. Likely. Michael was the same.  He
had pains, he had insomnia.  Why should he suffer?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 06, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Raikiramari on November 06, 2011, 12:30:50 PM
To say those aren't his records, then proceed to say that his records were seized.

Arnie is totally old and developing early stages of Alzheimer's, LOL... That or he's just bad at lying and good at contradicting himself.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 06, 2011, 12:38:55 PM
Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
@PetersPixieLove Are you psychotic? I invented injected collagen,Botox and fillers. have you done too much pixie dust?
14 hours ago




Oh dear  :roll:....he's starting to snap at people...I hope there aren't believers and non believers on his twitter harrassing him  :?

We don't want him to shut down & shut up before he spills something of actual importance!   bangbang
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 06, 2011, 12:47:57 PM
fordtocarr , that's exactly the case.

It upsets me how fast everyone jumps onto "He was an addict! We knew! Sad addict! It was a matter of time!
He deserved his fate!" story, both media [well, no surprise here] and readers. It's just so upsetting.
They judge without even thinking  first :(
They learned nothing. I don't get why now so many Jacksons, former bodyguards and "friends" support that "addict!" rumours, before the trial is over!
Very mixed feelings here. For hung jury? For aquittal? Is it part of the plan? Klein with his absurd stories helps for sure as I do not think jurors live under a rock during weekends. And family nodding in front of them during the trial when "addiction" was mentioned.  /white flag/

I'm not registered on twitter btw. Never thought I'll be tempted to do so  :lol: maybe it's all big PR campaign for twitter  :lol:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 06, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
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I believe so. He now made it a point to tell this reporter that he "rescued" him once in Las Vegas by sleeping on the floor of the hotel room and getting some doctor out of there that was giving him propofol. And he mentioned another time he had to fly somewhere else to do the same thing. I wish we could get a copy of this. It was less than 5 minutes and I just happened to turn on CNN News. Don Lemon had to make it a point to say that this should not sway the outcome for the defense and that "anyway" the jury should not be watching this. Arnie continues to claim that the defense used documents that were not his.
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He was just on CNN - he is now speaking to the media.  One of the reporters went to his house today. He claims to have been in Paris when Michael had the "extra" Demerol injections in his office. He says the medical records used in court were not his and the defense is wrong. It was associates of his in his office that may have injected Michael. He also made it clear again that Michael was ADDICTED to propoful and he tried to stop him many times. Arnie says he is tired of hearing the defense use him as a scape goat for the Demerol.
Very interesting indeed. Did anyone else catch this?





Michael Jackson's Dermatologist Tells 'Extra': 'Michael was Not a Drug Addict'
October 28, 2011 | Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson's best friend and dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, sets the record straight with "Extra's" Jerry Penacoli about allegations in the involuntary manslaughter trial against Conrad Murray.

Dr. Klein sat down with Penacoli to discuss the trial in which the defense is claiming Jackson was addicted to Demerol and other prescription drugs. The physician stated, "Michael was not a drug addict."



Penacoli questioned if he thought Conrad Murray is guilty. Klein nodded, "There's no question. You can't deliver drugs when you're incompetent." He also added that propofol should not be used at home "unless your having your appendix out at home."

Klein also responded to the lingering rumor that he's the biological father of one or two of Jackson's children.

Did he provide the sperm, Penacoli asked Klein directly? "I'll tell you this... His son [Prince] is very handsome. I have no answer other than that." Even with an uncanny resemblance, Klein concluded, "the children are Michael Jackson's children, they're not my children."



Video in the Link



http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/10/michael_jacksons_dermatologist_tells_extra_michael_was_not_a_drug_addict.php
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Post by: Aidan_81 on November 06, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
"uncanny resemblance"   :roll:
Arnold lost it.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 06, 2011, 03:30:55 PM
Arnold W. Klein
Frank Tyson lived off of Michael Jackson when he was alive. Now you are going to make more money off of him when he is dead. If you truly loved Michael tell us about the true Will Mr Bigshot!

Frank Cascio, an entrepreneur and producer who splits his time between New York, Los Angeles, and Germany, knew Michael Jackson for more than 25 years, including serving as his personal manager for nearly a decade from the 90's into the '00's . During that time, Cascio developed and co-produced “The Michael Jackson 30th Anniversary Celebration, Madison Square Garden,” was co-producer and creative director of “The Michael Jackson Interview: Footage You Were Never Meant to See,” executive producer and creative director in collaboration with Brett Ratner on “Michael Jackson Private Home Movies,” which aired on Fox in 2003.
Cascio is a co-founder and partner in the private equity platform, IMPERIAL™. Through this platform, he and his partners, entertainment attorney, Eric Lerner, and venture capitalist, Sean Koh, deploy strategic capital to their portfolio companies in the areas of film and television development and production, media, technology and music publishing.
He is also part of the music production trio DTC based in Berlin, Germany
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 06, 2011, 03:44:10 PM
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Aaand he opened his twitter, now everyone can go and read.

Yes, he contradicts himself nonstop  :lol:
"He was an addict!"
"He for sure was not an addict!" and so on.

Make up your mind, Dr.

I still insist dependency and addiction are two different things. Most of us take painkillers when we're in pain, like
headache or chronic pains etc. Most of us had a joint at college every now and then.  Those of us with insomnia  will HAVE to take pills each night. Are we addicts? Heck no.
Dependant? Maybe. Likely. Michael was the same.  He
had pains, he had insomnia.  Why should he suffer?

Arnie Klein:
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You the fans will have the truth....I know the entire awful tale

Yes Aidan, he contradicts himself nonstop  :lol:,this are the RULES OF THE DECEPTION,always CONTRADICTIONs,TWISTs and TURNs,all LEADING to THE TRUTH.The sweet DOCTOR is playing with us ,and I will play with him also  8-). The GOOD PART in all this is that for ONE's he is RIGHT: WE,the FANS will SOON know THE TRUTH!!!!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 06, 2011, 04:38:56 PM
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Frank Tyson lived off of Michael Jackson when he was alive. Now you are going to make more money off of him when he is dead. If you truly loved Michael tell us about the true Will Mr Bigshot!

True will? Michael's real will? Oh I bet at least 1 000 000 people would love to learn about that paper  bounce/!
Actually.. It's key paper and not sure Arnold knows what was there. But hope he chats more  :mrgreen: among his contradictory posts and copy/paste from fan forums he might tell pieces of Truth.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Sarahli on November 06, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
At first I really didn't know what to think about Dr Klein and his possible role in the Hoax (especially because of the controversies that have surrounded him early on in the Hoax, but what if it's part of the illusions?). With his recent tweets I have been thinking and we have to admit that the timing is odd, like not a coincidence. I still am unsure and cannot claim anything as truth of course, these are just observations. I think that we have to stay open-minded to all possibilities as we do not know what is real or illusion yet.

I just notice that he is very active on twitter and made his tweets open for everyone to read which wasn't the case just a few days ago. Of course linking to Hoax forums is not what we would expect from someone who believes that Michael is really gone. So we really have to take these things into consideration before judging.

Actually when looking at Klein's possible role in all this I see a possible sting against doctors, FBI, FDA as these entities are all "gravitating" around him.

For example concerning doctors, on his CNN interview in 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOVUXVYlpY&feature=related) he said that he didn't know which doctors went on tour with Michael, but in another (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52IoBp3YKYA) one of his lawyers says that they have a lawsuit against Steven Hoefflin (here is a TMZ article about it: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/michael-jackson-doc-sues/#.Trb9xLKk-Ok ) and recently he brought this Dr Hoefflin back into the "spotlight" in his tweets. This Dr Hoefflin may well be a target and Klein seems to be a little like Murray, the fall guy attracting all the attention. Anyway a lot of things seem to be happening behind the curtain and going crescendo as the trial is about to come to an end. It sure will be interesting to hear what Dr Klein said in the soon to be aired interview, that is to say tomorrow the 7th when the verdict might be read as well.  suspicious//

Something else that is fueling the confusion is that he said he didn't know Conrad Murray. It seems odd as he is Michael's main doctor and good friend, Michael would have told him about Murray right? So why would Klein say that he doesn't know him? Confusion, confusion...

I know there is what Back said about Klein, but he also said that Murray was a "murderer" "taker of life", so we shouldn't go only by that but try to see and perceive through the illusions and smoke-screens.

So I keep watching.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: neversaynever on November 06, 2011, 08:25:35 PM
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I believe so. He now made it a point to tell this reporter that he "rescued" him once in Las Vegas by sleeping on the floor of the hotel room and getting some doctor out of there that was giving him propofol. And he mentioned another time he had to fly somewhere else to do the same thing. I wish we could get a copy of this. It was less than 5 minutes and I just happened to turn on CNN News. Don Lemon had to make it a point to say that this should not sway the outcome for the defense and that "anyway" the jury should not be watching this. Arnie continues to claim that the defense used documents that were not his.
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He was just on CNN - he is now speaking to the media.  One of the reporters went to his house today. He claims to have been in Paris when Michael had the "extra" Demerol injections in his office. He says the medical records used in court were not his and the defense is wrong. It was associates of his in his office that may have injected Michael. He also made it clear again that Michael was ADDICTED to propoful and he tried to stop him many times. Arnie says he is tired of hearing the defense use him as a scape goat for the Demerol.
Very interesting indeed. Did anyone else catch this?

Here is part of the interview that will air on 7th November, thanks to themjconspiracy for the YouTube video

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2011/11/05/exclusive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUCpNAXWSE

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUCpNAXWSE [/youtube]


Thank you for finding these!! 
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 06, 2011, 10:50:11 PM
i love the fact that klein is not saying 'these things' such as he rescued mj on the floor after propofol, via print media. i love the fact that he is video taped and lying out of his mouth to the camera. he cant say, oh' the journo misinterpreted me. he is flat out lying and there is video to prove it. he is going to appear to be more of a jerk than he already appears, once mj returns. of course he is scared.

watch out klein, mj is going to wipe the floor with you! michael-jackson/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 07, 2011, 01:26:07 AM
The fact that he went from saying those were his biological children, to they are Michael's, whilst again hinting Prince is his is telling. That alone seems like something Michael wouldn't want someone who is "in on it" to say considering he spent much of his life defending HIS truth, that the children are his; whether biological or not. He made allegations about Michael and then retracted them, while now acting in a completely different manner. That is questionable. I also noticed yet another contradiction, he says Michael was NOT an addict, when before it was that he was in fact addicted to propofol because of Hoefflin.

BACK I dont think meant "taker of life" or "murderer" literally, rather that IS what Murray is. He is the role of "taker of life" in this hoax. If we cant take ANYthing as clues without thinking it's to cause confusion, what exactly are we learning? Nothing, except to not believe anything even if it's true and that's doing us a disservice. Not everything is a smokescreen.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Sarahli on November 07, 2011, 07:33:48 AM
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The fact that he went from saying those were his biological children, to they are Michael's, whilst again hinting Prince is his is telling. That alone seems like something Michael wouldn't want someone who is "in on it" to say considering he spent much of his life defending HIS truth, that the children are his; whether biological or not. He made allegations about Michael and then retracted them, while now acting in a completely different manner. That is questionable. I also noticed yet another contradiction, he says Michael was NOT an addict, when before it was that he was in fact addicted to propofol because of Hoefflin.

BACK I dont think meant "taker of life" or "murderer" literally, rather that IS what Murray is. He is the role of "taker of life" in this hoax. If we cant take ANYthing as clues without thinking it's to cause confusion, what exactly are we learning? Nothing, except to not believe anything even if it's true and that's doing us a disservice. Not everything is a smokescreen.

Suzy, I know that Back didn't meant that Murray was a "murderer" literally, I just mentioned this as an example showing to us that Back planted elements of the Hoax SCENEry already back then and that considering this we couldn't cast a judgment too quickly even on Dr Klein. I too was and still am extremely disturbed by this story about the children that's why I reserved any "judgment" concerning Dr Klein. I fear too much to judge someone anyway but there are observations that cannot be overlooked. We'll see what is going to happen.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 07, 2011, 08:31:38 AM




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Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain… who started MJ on Propofol.
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Arnold Klein
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vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/aeg… t t got barrack who held mortgage on neverland and Murray's home. Coincidence???
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news.sky.com/home/world-new… here is the truth
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TMZ used me to create a smoke screen to cover the lascivious behavior of Branca,Weitzman and AEG to control the Jackson estate
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ask.com/wiki/Arnold_Kl… who i am
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the demerol given MJ by me was totally misrepresented in court. in May I was not in the USA. Believe this crap is you are totally ignorant.
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cnn.com/2011/11/06/sho… he was addicted to propofol
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@SantaBarbaraPR you work for aeg
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AEG bought the mortgage, the music and his life.
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the mortgage on Murray's house was held by Barrack who held the mortgage on Neverland...they wanted an incompetent doctor for MJ
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hlntv.com/video/2011/11/… Michael had a long standing problem with Propofol. \



Arnold W. Klein
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Michael Jackson Dermatologist: Dr Arnold Klein Is Portrayed As 'A Monster' In Dr Conrad Murray Trial
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<p>A cosmetic surgeon who treated Michael Jackson for 25 years claims he has been portrayed as "a monster" during the trial of the man accused of killing the King of Pop.</p>

Arnold W. Klein
In Abrahamic religions, Gabriel (Hebrew: גַּבְרִיאֵל, Modern Gavri'el Tiberian Gaḇrîʼēl, God is my strength; Arabic: جبريل, Jibrīl or جبرائيل Jibrāʾīl) is an angel who typically serves as a messenger to humans from God.
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 07, 2011, 10:03:06 AM
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/coffeescreen.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)

Good Morning Dr. Klein.....
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on November 07, 2011, 10:20:30 AM
Lol, Klein is hardcore hoaxing lately! aaaaahahahahaha i love it
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 07, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
 Sarahli, I understand what you mean about Back setting up a scenario foretelling Dr. Klein's role. From that perspective it makes sense; except his other more offensive/personal comments seem irrelevant to me. I also didn't mean what I said to come off as assumptive, and I agree all we can do is wait and reserve judgement and personal attacks on Klein.

Edit: Seeing his recent tweets, if Michael was really dead than he seems to be pointing out a planned murder with AEG's/Branca's involvement. It could also be a planned hoax he is referencing, just depends on interpretation.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 11, 2011, 08:02:02 PM
O  WOW...these is fightin words.  (which must be part of the hoax scheme, thus, US, because I really doubt that Joe reads Arnies FB)

Arnold W. Klein
Michael had a long standing problem with Propofol and his father. This is a frivilous lawsuit and Joe I promise you come after me again with the ridiculous records they presented in court and all you will have below your belt is a vast wasteland which is more than you have in your head.Propofol abuse creates the worst insomnia known to man short of having you as a father.
After conviction, legal woes mount for Jackson doc
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Jail time is not the only problem looming for the doctor convicted in Michael Jackson's death. Lawsuits, medical licensing issues and possible payments to Jackson's family await.
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Grace on November 12, 2011, 03:47:29 AM
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Coroner Chief Harvey tweeted "Three can keep a secret if two are dead."

Doesn't this translate in hoax mind into

"Two died that day not three"?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 12, 2011, 05:23:57 AM
Grace, I didn't actually think he was referencing the actual death's of those two people, just a 'coincidence' that reminded me of his tweet.

 It's an old mafia saying, he could mean anything; interpretation is the key. And yes, that's a good hoax interpretation.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 13, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
I'm a trekkie nerd so I find this interesting.  It was in my "activity" on twitter.

(http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/55873869/myspacecamera_normal.jpg)WilliamShatner followed:

(http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1622769400/ArnieOfficePic2_bigger.jpg)Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein




Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on November 13, 2011, 12:58:34 PM
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I'm a trekkie nerd so I find this interesting.  It was in my "activity" on twitter.

(http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/55873869/myspacecamera_normal.jpg)WilliamShatner followed:

(http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1622769400/ArnieOfficePic2_bigger.jpg)Arnold Klein
awkmd Arnold Klein












Perhaps this man is waking the curiosity of many people
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 13, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
Quite likely Paula.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fatalkiss26 on November 13, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Dr Klein did work on Shatner, that isn't surprising...
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 13, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
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Dr Klein did work on Shatner, that isn't surprising...

I thought about that too.  It's possible.  I hope Bill scrolls through Arnie's page though - if he has no idea about the hoax, he'll be sure to think 'WTF?'
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Andrea on November 13, 2011, 02:03:49 PM
Like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFnYBS0D4s[/youtube]

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Suzy7 on November 13, 2011, 04:15:12 PM
^^ lol Andrea, off topic but that roast was hilarious.
And yes, perhaps he will get curious and click on the links.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: alfarle on November 14, 2011, 09:12:43 PM
Did anyone see the interview that Jermaine gave on CNN on the 11th where he said that he doesn't even know Klein but he believes that "Klein is just trying to cover his butt" ????Hmmmmm...Perhaps that will explain a bit more why he's throwing shade to other docs right??? Still confused as to what his role is or if he's even involved in that manner..... :?:

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIelnFvb4Q
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 15, 2011, 04:22:03 AM
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I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol

I can not believe you take so many pills WTF??!!
There must be an easier way to put you to sleep  bow/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Kim on November 15, 2011, 05:09:22 AM
I agree with Ginafelicia.

I have some tips.
Read before you go to bed, when you read your mind is focussed on one thing, you do not have to think about the other things that happened that same day.

Use your bed only when you go to sleep or having sex, when you use your bed for things like reading, watching tv etc. Your mind is going to associate the bed with different things. Your mind need to associate the bed with sleeping and having sex...and nothing else then that.

No clock, time can be a very stressfull reminder.

Clear your mind before you go to sleep.

Drink a cup of hot milk.

Or you can try this:

1.Imagine your body filled with a blue gas, swarming all around, fillng up every part of you.

2.Starting with your toes, to your feet and up your legs, slowly gather up all of this energy from each leg — feeling your toes, feet and legs relax as the energy leaves — and center it in your stomach area.

3.Do the same for your arms — slowly pulling the blue energy from the finger tips, hands, arms, shoulder and down into your stomach, letting it join the rest, creating an even larger ball of blue energy.

4.Again, pull the energy down from your head, neck and chest and add it to the spinning ball of blue energy that now fills your stomach area.

5.This ball of blue energy now contains everything — all of your worries, stresses and fears — and with it all together, shoot it out of the top of your head, through the wall, outside, and straight up into the sky. Watch it shoot past the tree tops, through the clouds and into space.

6.Feel your body relaxed and empty. Now, you're ready to sleep.




Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 19, 2011, 01:28:59 PM
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Did anyone see the interview that Jermaine gave on CNN on the 11th where he said that he doesn't even know Klein but he believes that "Klein is just trying to cover his butt" ????Hmmmmm...Perhaps that will explain a bit more why he's throwing shade to other docs right??? Still confused as to what his role is or if he's even involved in that manner..... :?:

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIelnFvb4Q

Thank you Alfarle  8-), I saw it yesterday and I did a post about also,but it seems nobody saw it,lol  geek/. Nevermind I saw it and I heard what Jermaine said about Klein,lol  :lol: .Please don't feel confuse ,ok, he KNOWS VERY WELL what he is doing.He like all the people involved in this BIG HOAX have a role to play. Unfortunately in THE SCRIPT is also a PART where they all have to say CONTRADICTORY THINGS,lol to confuse people  :lol: ."Don't worry,be happy",and just enjoy the RIDE   :lol:!!! I LOVE you!!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: applehead250609 on November 19, 2011, 01:51:28 PM
Well ,Well,Well I don't know if Arnie is following this forum,but for sure SOMEONE does,because it seems that what I disscussed about UNFINISHED OLD BUSSINESS is already happening  afraid/ afraid/ !!!! As I said is very healthy ,lol to just "FOLLOW your HEART"=HEART to HEART ,and my heart tells me that ALL  HEEL WILL BEAK LOOSE  geek/  afraid/ afraid/ afraid/!!!!!!!


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awkmd Arnold Klein
there is no finer man in the world than Robert Wagner. Is Anscuhtz angry at him too
18 Nov


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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 19, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
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I agree with Ginafelicia.

I have some tips.
Read before you go to bed, when you read your mind is focussed on one thing, you do not have to think about the other things that happened that same day.

Use your bed only when you go to sleep or having sex, when you use your bed for things like reading, watching tv etc. Your mind is going to associate the bed with different things. Your mind need to associate the bed with sleeping and having sex...and nothing else then that.

No clock, time can be a very stressfull reminder.

Clear your mind before you go to sleep.

Drink a cup of hot milk.

Or you can try this:

1.Imagine your body filled with a blue gas, swarming all around, fillng up every part of you.

2.Starting with your toes, to your feet and up your legs, slowly gather up all of this energy from each leg — feeling your toes, feet and legs relax as the energy leaves — and center it in your stomach area.

3.Do the same for your arms — slowly pulling the blue energy from the finger tips, hands, arms, shoulder and down into your stomach, letting it join the rest, creating an even larger ball of blue energy.

4.Again, pull the energy down from your head, neck and chest and add it to the spinning ball of blue energy that now fills your stomach area.

5.This ball of blue energy now contains everything — all of your worries, stresses and fears — and with it all together, shoot it out of the top of your head, through the wall, outside, and straight up into the sky. Watch it shoot past the tree tops, through the clouds and into space.

6.Feel your body relaxed and empty. Now, you're ready to sleep.






Thanks for the info ;)
I do read before going to sleep.  Just some fantasy romance crap.  I get sleepy in about half hour.  But, prob. cuz meds, all which are OTC.
If I don't take them, I can't breathe, cuz of sinus' and w/o IBU, restless legs KILL me.  The melatonin..of course..makes me sleepy.
Can't drink the milk...lactose gets me since WLS.
But, thank you for the other ideas...
Love to U

BTW...I think truly, Arnie is in on this...and time will tell.  He's been too important to Michael for too long, even up til the beginning of the hoax.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MeandMyShadow on November 19, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
What do you make of one of AK's latest tweets.
"The King is back with a special gifts for his subjects."  Who is he referring to?  MJ, Larry King?  or perhaps he considers himself as the king of Botox?  Just wondering what other people think.  He's probably just messing with us, but I just can't figure him out.  Some of the stuff he tweets might make sense with AEG, but then there are other things he says that are lies.   Just don't know about this guy. afraid/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: eviltwin on November 19, 2011, 07:08:26 PM
it's Mike and he's getting his green jacket back from him.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on November 19, 2011, 07:57:56 PM

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I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol

If i were you, I would stop gradually with the coffee straight. from 12 cups to 8 and like untill you can go on with 2 a day.

The rest of the meds i guess your doc is awared of so the doc should tell you how to cut on them. Ibuprofen hurts the stomach quite a lot.

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 19, 2011, 08:04:31 PM
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I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol

If i were you, I would stop gradually with the coffee straight. from 12 cups to 8 and like untill you can go on with 2 a day.

The rest of the meds i guess your doc is awared of so the doc should tell you how to cut on them. Ibuprofen hurts the stomach quite a lot.


Thank you again.  That's what I'm trying to do...I suppose it's really like Michael with the redbull all day then can't sleep at night huh ;)
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 20, 2011, 12:12:08 AM
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I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol

I can not believe you take so many pills WTF??!!
There must be an easier way to put you to sleep  bow/

The best way to have a good night sleep, is to learn to meditate, and to drink camomile tea, believe me you do not need those pills. If you have breathing problems sinus, you can buy those strips to put on your nose at the drug store, believe me that works wonders. Please do not take all those pills it is no good for your health especially your liver.. blessings.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 20, 2011, 12:15:35 AM
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I agree with you last comment Aidan.  Especially as you get older it's harder and harder to sleep for one reason or another.  Especially with a creative mind or worries.  I tend to work out my problems in my sleep.  I spend the night praying...all night...for God to help me with my problems, and then never get to sleep.  OR, I work on problems trying to solve them in my sleep, and can't turn my mind off.
I'm sure it was much worse for Michael.....IF we are to believe ANY of this can't sleep story.
Actually, I've followed Michael forever, and never heard about the insomnia till the hoax.
But, I could understand.
I now have my cocktail to get to sleep.  I've tried to go without it and never fall asleep.  It is not to safe either.  I take 2 ibuprofen so my legs don't jump.  2 sinus tabs so I can breathe, and 5 mg of melatonin so I can fall asleep!  Melatonin is amazing, but too much and your body stops making it, as it does as you age anyhow.  It does make it hard to wake and stay awake though, so I drink about 12 cups of coffee a day.
This really is like Michael does too..just different chemicals.. Same results.  Something to sleep and turn off the mind, then something to stay up awake in the day (red bull).
I tend to think that the whole propofol story is invented or a story he heard about and scripted this after, though.  Maybe one night as he couldn't sleep..lol

If i were you, I would stop gradually with the coffee straight. from 12 cups to 8 and like untill you can go on with 2 a day.

The rest of the meds i guess your doc is awared of so the doc should tell you how to cut on them. Ibuprofen hurts the stomach quite a lot.


Thank you again.  That's what I'm trying to do...I suppose it's really like Michael with the redbull all day then can't sleep at night huh ;)


red bull can cause heart attacks..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 26, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
Why is Arnold Klein so upset? He claims on facebook he was the victim of an identity theft, mixing Michael Jackson, FBI and TMZ in his rant, I wonder if what he claims is true
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 26, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
Yeah...read this rant:

Arnold's Profile · Arnold's Wall

    Arnold W. Klein
    Occupy Bankruptcy court 2

    Happy Thanksgiving and I am very very thankful. I have a great new office,my work is better than ever,busier than ever and moving better than ever (only one cane). Of course I owe a great deal of thanks to certain people. Adrienne Maloof,Carrie Fisher, Penny Marshall ,Stan and Joan Lee,John Baldessari, Billie Hayes(Witchey Pooh),Pope Benedict XVI, Lori and Richard Stark (of Chrome Heart), My partnerSean Anderson, ,Paul Camuso,Howard Levine, Nabil Abu-Assal, Nakia, William Shatner,Gemma Cunningham,my beloved friend Ben Stull, Mitch Diegan,the great Sir Dan Gonzalez and so many others. My greatest concern remains my patients but will someone please tell me what has happened to the legal system in America. First Michael Jackson’s records were illegally released from my office and the local , state , medical, and federal government did nothing. Furthermore, these records are not just my records but those of every doctor who treated Michael in my office.

    My office medical records are illegally attributed to me during the Murray trial on national TV suggesting I gave Michael medication and treatment in May of 2009 while I was in Europe. Why did Judge Pastor allow this absolutely false information be presented in court and defame me. With the illegal release of Jackson’s records it created an AEG/TMZ smokescreen attaching me. At the same Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer used this very same smoke screen to steal my identity and not one of the governmental agencies I contacted did anything despite absolute proof. Indeed, I have contacted the Beverly Hills Police.LAPD,Homeland Security, Laguna Beach Police.US Attorney,FBI., Cal Med Board, Cal State Attorney Jerry Brown (now governor Brown), and Cooley (LA District Attorney)and nothing happened. What is wrong with the US Government that allows no response to my complaints? There are no legitimate power of attorney documents in any of the Khilji /Pfeiffer documents (most are unsigned or have my mother's named misspelled ) yet nothing is being done. I reported these acts since December 2010 yet please explain to me why the government as failed to act. As I have written a 100 times.

    To Whom it may concern;
    My case of Bankruptcy is clearly due to identity theft.I am totally appalled that the Federal Agencies have consistently failed to help me. While the agencies responded quickly to the actions of Gabay Perez,Cher’s facialist, you have totally ignored me. I communicated with the FBI, was assured the FBI was handling the situation, yet again nothing. Muhammed Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer increased the number of my bank accounts from 4 to 40 and clearly were using an endless number of monetary wire transfers. Remember I was never there when a single bank was opened yet the government does nothing. This is clearly an example of identity theft--the use of another person's personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain. In October 1998, Congress enacted the Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act, 18 U.S.C. §1028 ("Identity Theft Act") to ameliorate this situation. The Identity Theft Act made it a crime to "knowingly transfer[] or use[], without lawful authority, a means of identification of another person with the intent to commit, or to aid or abet, any unlawful activity that constitutes a violation of Federal law, or that constitutes a felony under any applicable State or local law. Furthermore, the Identity Theft Act designated the Federal Trade Commission as the federal clearinghouse for receiving and processing identity theft complaints, providing information to consumers, and referring consumers to the appropriate agencies for investigation of their complaints. Violations of the Identity Theft Act are investigated by agencies such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Secret Service, for bank and credit card fraud; the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, for mail fraud; the Social Security Administration's Office of Inspector General, for fraud relating to Social Security benefits; and the Internal Revenue Service, for tax fraud. The Justice Department handles the prosecution of cases under the Identity Theft Act. To help coordinate identity theft investigation and prosecution, the Justice Department created a working group that includes members from Justice components such as the U.S. Trustees, the FBI, and the Criminal Division; from other federal entities including the FTC, Secret Service, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, IRS, and Social Security Administration; and from state and local governments I have every piece of information you need regarding the illegal monetary transfers. I am more than willing to share them with you. Furthermore, I feel my bankruptcy filing should have included some information or a brief from you to the judge regarding the nature of my embezzlement , As reported in my complaints first presented in Decmber 2010 upon returning from a trip to Europe, I tried to use my American Express card to make a nominal purchase online of less than $10.00. My transaction was denied. When I called American Express I discovered that what I owed was a huge amount of money and subsequently I found that my finances had been substantially depleted, that several loans had been taken out without my knowledge, and that all the funds had been fraudulently withdrawn from my investment and retirement accounts, again without my knowledge. I quickly was able to identify two people in my employ who were responsible.
    Jason Pfeiffer former office manager in my Beverly Hills medical practice. Muhammad Khilji former accountant whose practice is based in Newport Beach. These two conspired and obtained mortgages on my Laguna Beach property and put my property up for sale without my knowledge in addition to taking out other loans on my house in LA and cross collateralizing those mortgages to affect both the LA and Laguna Beach properties. These loans were at usury rates and points of 33 1/3%. Additionally they stole over $250,000.00 worth of art:

    My initial group of attorney’s were ineffective or useless:

    Philip W. Boesch Jr who did tell me he also worked for AEG
    William Seki who did a totally ineffective criminal investigarion
    Mike Degeus and Andrew Whorton of homeland security
    Robert Dugdale of the US Attorney’s office
    David Neale- Bankruptcy lawyer who because of his failer to act lost me my medical office and broke Confidence by speaking to hostile reporters. His was his assumption I should retire.

    I am presently in bankruptcy court which is nothing more than a medieval experience where they are trying to sell everthing not yet stolen. Please get me of here before they bring in the manacles and the rack. Bankruptcy court is nothing more than a"feudal" system, where the the king or Judge awards land grants or "fiefs" to his most important nobles, the bankruptcy lawyers in return for their contributions of kind to his war chest. At the lowest echelon of society were the peasants, also called serfs,villains or those of us who have been robbed of all are possessions. To be kept in bankruptcy court because of a federal Hippa violation, credit card fraud, embezzlement, theft, attempted homicide, elder abuse and identity theft is illegal and is a criminal violation of my rights
    Like · · Share · Yesterday at 3:46pm ·
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: marisjm on November 26, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
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Yeah...read this rant:

Arnold's Profile · Arnold's Wall

    Arnold W. Klein
    Occupy Bankruptcy court 2

    Happy Thanksgiving and I am very very thankful. I have a great new office,my work is better than ever,busier than ever and moving better than ever (only one cane). Of course I owe a great deal of thanks to certain people. Adrienne Maloof,Carrie Fisher, Penny Marshall ,Stan and Joan Lee,John Baldessari, Billie Hayes(Witchey Pooh),Pope Benedict XVI, Lori and Richard Stark (of Chrome Heart), My partnerSean Anderson, ,Paul Camuso,Howard Levine, Nabil Abu-Assal, Nakia, William Shatner,Gemma Cunningham,my beloved friend Ben Stull, Mitch Diegan,the great Sir Dan Gonzalez and so many others. My greatest concern remains my patients but will someone please tell me what has happened to the legal system in America. First Michael Jackson’s records were illegally released from my office and the local , state , medical, and federal government did nothing. Furthermore, these records are not just my records but those of every doctor who treated Michael in my office.

    My office medical records are illegally attributed to me during the Murray trial on national TV suggesting I gave Michael medication and treatment in May of 2009 while I was in Europe. Why did Judge Pastor allow this absolutely false information be presented in court and defame me. With the illegal release of Jackson’s records it created an AEG/TMZ smokescreen attaching me. At the same Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer used this very same smoke screen to steal my identity and not one of the governmental agencies I contacted did anything despite absolute proof. Indeed, I have contacted the Beverly Hills Police.LAPD,Homeland Security, Laguna Beach Police.US Attorney,FBI., Cal Med Board, Cal State Attorney Jerry Brown (now governor Brown), and Cooley (LA District Attorney)and nothing happened. What is wrong with the US Government that allows no response to my complaints? There are no legitimate power of attorney documents in any of the Khilji /Pfeiffer documents (most are unsigned or have my mother's named misspelled ) yet nothing is being done. I reported these acts since December 2010 yet please explain to me why the government as failed to act. As I have written a 100 times.

    To Whom it may concern;
    My case of Bankruptcy is clearly due to identity theft.I am totally appalled that the Federal Agencies have consistently failed to help me. While the agencies responded quickly to the actions of Gabay Perez,Cher’s facialist, you have totally ignored me. I communicated with the FBI, was assured the FBI was handling the situation, yet again nothing. Muhammed Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer increased the number of my bank accounts from 4 to 40 and clearly were using an endless number of monetary wire transfers. Remember I was never there when a single bank was opened yet the government does nothing. This is clearly an example of identity theft--the use of another person's personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain. In October 1998, Congress enacted the Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act, 18 U.S.C. §1028 ("Identity Theft Act") to ameliorate this situation. The Identity Theft Act made it a crime to "knowingly transfer[] or use[], without lawful authority, a means of identification of another person with the intent to commit, or to aid or abet, any unlawful activity that constitutes a violation of Federal law, or that constitutes a felony under any applicable State or local law. Furthermore, the Identity Theft Act designated the Federal Trade Commission as the federal clearinghouse for receiving and processing identity theft complaints, providing information to consumers, and referring consumers to the appropriate agencies for investigation of their complaints. Violations of the Identity Theft Act are investigated by agencies such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Secret Service, for bank and credit card fraud; the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, for mail fraud; the Social Security Administration's Office of Inspector General, for fraud relating to Social Security benefits; and the Internal Revenue Service, for tax fraud. The Justice Department handles the prosecution of cases under the Identity Theft Act. To help coordinate identity theft investigation and prosecution, the Justice Department created a working group that includes members from Justice components such as the U.S. Trustees, the FBI, and the Criminal Division; from other federal entities including the FTC, Secret Service, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, IRS, and Social Security Administration; and from state and local governments I have every piece of information you need regarding the illegal monetary transfers. I am more than willing to share them with you. Furthermore, I feel my bankruptcy filing should have included some information or a brief from you to the judge regarding the nature of my embezzlement , As reported in my complaints first presented in Decmber 2010 upon returning from a trip to Europe, I tried to use my American Express card to make a nominal purchase online of less than $10.00. My transaction was denied. When I called American Express I discovered that what I owed was a huge amount of money and subsequently I found that my finances had been substantially depleted, that several loans had been taken out without my knowledge, and that all the funds had been fraudulently withdrawn from my investment and retirement accounts, again without my knowledge. I quickly was able to identify two people in my employ who were responsible.
    Jason Pfeiffer former office manager in my Beverly Hills medical practice. Muhammad Khilji former accountant whose practice is based in Newport Beach. These two conspired and obtained mortgages on my Laguna Beach property and put my property up for sale without my knowledge in addition to taking out other loans on my house in LA and cross collateralizing those mortgages to affect both the LA and Laguna Beach properties. These loans were at usury rates and points of 33 1/3%. Additionally they stole over $250,000.00 worth of art:

    My initial group of attorney’s were ineffective or useless:

    Philip W. Boesch Jr who did tell me he also worked for AEG
    William Seki who did a totally ineffective criminal investigarion
    Mike Degeus and Andrew Whorton of homeland security
    Robert Dugdale of the US Attorney’s office
    David Neale- Bankruptcy lawyer who because of his failer to act lost me my medical office and broke Confidence by speaking to hostile reporters. His was his assumption I should retire.

    I am presently in bankruptcy court which is nothing more than a medieval experience where they are trying to sell everthing not yet stolen. Please get me of here before they bring in the manacles and the rack. Bankruptcy court is nothing more than a"feudal" system, where the the king or Judge awards land grants or "fiefs" to his most important nobles, the bankruptcy lawyers in return for their contributions of kind to his war chest. At the lowest echelon of society were the peasants, also called serfs,villains or those of us who have been robbed of all are possessions. To be kept in bankruptcy court because of a federal Hippa violation, credit card fraud, embezzlement, theft, attempted homicide, elder abuse and identity theft is illegal and is a criminal violation of my rights
    Like · · Share · Yesterday at 3:46pm ·
He sure loves to play the blame game.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: fordtocarr on November 26, 2011, 07:36:37 PM
Arnold W. Klein
Occupy Bankruptcy court: How did the son of a Rabbi end up with 3 Presidents, 2 Popes and 3 Real Queens as Patients end up in Bankruptcy court because of identity
Theft?

Happy Thanksgiving and I am very very thankful. I have a great new office; my work is better than ever, busier than ever and moving better than ever (only one cane). Of course I owe a great deal of thanks to certain people. Adrienne Maloof,Carrie Fisher, Penny Marshall ,Stan and Joan Lee, John Baldessari, Billie Hayes(Witchey Pooh),Pope Benedict XVI, Lori and Richard Stark (of Chrome Heart),Sean Andersom, ,Paul Camuso,Howard Levine, Nabil Abu-Assal, Nakia, William Shatner,Gemma Cunningham and so many others. My greatest concern remains my patients but will someone please tell me what has happened to the legal system in America. First Michael Jackson’s records were illegally released from my office and the local , state , medical, and federal government did nothing. Furthermore, these records are not just my records but those of every doctor who treated Michael in my office. My office medical records are illegally attributed to me during the Murray trial on national TV suggesting I gave Michael medication and treatment in May of 2009 while I was in Europe. Why did Judge Pastor allow this absolutely false information be presented in court and defame me. With the illegal release of Jackson’s records it created an AEG/TMZ smokescreen attaching me. At the same Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer used this very same smoke screen to steal my identity and not one of the governmental agencies I contacted did anything despite absolute proof. Indeed, I have contacted the Beverly Hills Police.LAPD,Homeland Security, Laguna Beach Police.US Attorney,FBI., Cal Med Board, Cal State Attorney Jerry Brown (now governor Brown), and Cooley (LA District Attorney)and nothing happened. What is wrong with the US Government that allows no response to my complaints? There are no legitimate power of attorney documents in any of the Khilji /Pfeiffer documents (most are unsigned or have my mother's named misspelled ) yet nothing is being done. I reported these acts since December 2010 yet please explain to me why the government as failed to act. As I have written a 100 times. To Whom it may concern; My case of Bankruptcy is clearly due to identity theft.I am totally appalled that the Federal Agencies have consistently failed to help me. While the agencies responded quickly to the actions of Gabay Perez,Cher’s facialist, you have totally ignored me. I communicated with the FBI, was assured the FBI was handling the situation, yet again nothing. Muhammed Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer increased the number of my bank accounts from 4 to 40 and clearly were using an endless number of monetary wire transfers. Remember I was never there when a single bank was opened yet the government does nothing. This is clearly an example of identity theft--the use of another person's personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain. In October 1998, Congress enacted the Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act, 18 U.S.C. §1028 ("Identity Theft Act") to ameliorate this situation. The Identity Theft Act made it a crime to "knowingly transfer[] or use[], without lawful authority, a means of identification of another person with the intent to commit, or to aid or abet, any unlawful activity that constitutes a violation of Federal law, or that constitutes a felony under any applicable State or local law. Furthermore, the Identity Theft Act designated the Federal Trade Commission as the federal clearinghouse for receiving and processing identity theft complaints, providing information to consumers, and referring consumers to the appropriate agencies for investigation of their complaints. Violations of the Identity Theft Act are investigated by agencies such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Secret Service, for bank and credit card fraud; the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, for mail fraud; the Social Security Administration's Office of Inspector General, for fraud relating to Social Security benefits; and the Internal Revenue Service, for tax fraud. The Justice Department handles the prosecution of cases under the Identity Theft Act. To help coordinate identity theft investigation and prosecution, the Justice Department created a working group that includes members from Justice components such as the U.S. Trustees, the FBI, and the Criminal Division; from other federal entities including the FTC, Secret Service, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, IRS, and Social Security Administration; and from state and local governments I have every piece of information you need regarding the illegal monetary transfers. I am more than willing to share them with you. Furthermore, I feel my bankruptcy filing should have included some information or a brief from you to the judge regarding the nature of my embezzlement , As reported in my complaints first presented in Decmber 2010 upon returning from a trip to Europe, I tried to use my American Express card to make a nominal purchase online of less than $10.00. My transaction was denied. When I called American Express I discovered that what I owed was a huge amount of money and subsequently I found that my finances had been substantially depleted, that several loans had been taken out without my knowledge, and that all the funds had been fraudulently withdrawn from my investment and retirement accounts, again without my knowledge. I quickly was able to identify two people in my employ who were responsible. Jason Pfeiffer former office manager in my Beverly Hills medical practice. Muhammad Khilji former accountant whose practice is based in Newport Beach. These two conspired and obtained mortgages on my Laguna Beach property and put my property up for sale without my knowledge in addition to taking out other loans on my house in LA and cross collateralizing those mortgages to affect both the LA and Laguna Beach properties. These loans were at usury rates and points of 33 1/3%. Additionally they stole over $250,000.00 worth of art: My initial group of attorney’s were ineffective or useless: Philip W. Boesch Jr who did tell me he also worked for AEG William Seki who did a totally ineffective criminal investigarion Mike Degeus and Andrew Whorton of homeland security Robert Dugdale of the US Attorney’s office David Neale- Bankruptcy lawyer who because of his failer to act lost me my medical office and broke Confidence by speaking to hostile reporters. His was his assumption I should retire. I am presently in bankruptcy court which is nothing more than a medieval experience where they are trying to sell everthing not yet stolen. Please get me of here before they bring in the manacles and the rack. Bankruptcy court is nothing more than a"feudal" system, where the the king or Judge awards land grants or "fiefs" to his most important nobles, the bankruptcy lawyers in return for their contributions of kind to his war chest. At the lowest echelon of society were the peasants, also called serfs,villains or those of us who have been robbed of all of our possessions. To be kept in bankruptcy court because of a federal Hippa violation, credit card fraud, embezzlement, theft, attempted homicide, elder abuse and identity theft would seem impossible? But there is reason. The enormous expansion that law has undergone in the last one hundred years particularly in the area of criminal law-has seriously undermined the rule of law by vesting public officials with an inordinate amount of power and discretion.The enforcement of law in the Jackson trial through the exercise of official discretion nurtures a pernicious cynicism among the public by teaching people that law is less a matter of commitment to certainty, predictability, and equality, and more a function of individual circumstance and governmental fiat. Government of individuals respond to bribes,donations,greed or whatever you care to call it. I
Was the screen by which the murder of Michae Jackson was obscured.

1) My medical records presented at the Murray trial were interpreted on National TV to mean I gave Michael Jackson Demerol in May 2009. I was in Europe almost all of May2009 so this purported treatment is impossible.
Why were the defense attorney and Judge Pastore allowed to falsely accuse me of administering drugs on National TV which is an act of Defamation

2) Why has Homeland Security,the US Attorney,District Attorney Cooley, the Los Angeles Police and the Beverly hills police not reacted against the attempted homicide,embezzlement,theft , illlegal wiring of funds across state lines, credit card fraud and illegal bank actions I reported. Furthermore I presently have multiple clearly fraudulent loans on my properties All the above has place me in Bankruptcy Court. My first Bankruptcy lawyer discussed my case with hostile reporters as well as lost me my medical office. How can one be held captive in Bankruptcy court as a result of criminal acts and be forced to allow more of my remaining assets be sold. Please note I reported this information over 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. The questions we must answer

1My medical medical records of Mr Jackson were illegally released yet no one has taken action against this Hipaa violation. My medical records presented in court were not records of my treatment of Jackson but treatment provided by people in my office
Would it not be slander for Judge Pastor to allow the defense attorney on National TV to say I gave Michael Jackson Demerol on days I was not in the USA

2) Michael had a long history of Propofol dependence.
Murray did not act alone in murdering MJ. Why was
Steven Hoefflin the plastic surgeon whom addicted
Michael to propofol and performed over 100
surgeries never called as a witness ?

3) Thomas Barrack held the mortgage on Neverland
and Murray’s home. Who hired Murray?
Who paid for the Drugs and equipment.

4) Why has Homeland Security,the US Attorney,District Attorney Cooley, the Los Angeles Police and the Beverly hills police not reacted against the attempted homicide,embezzlement,theft , illlegal wiring of funds across state lines, credit card fraud and illegal bank actions I reported. Furthermore I presently have multiple clearly fraudulent loans on my properties All the above has place me in Bankruptcy Court. My first Bankruptcy lawyer discussed my case with hostile reporters as well as lost me my medical office. How can one be held captive in Bankruptcy court as a result of criminal acts and be forced to allow more of my remaining assets be sold. Please note I reported this information over 11/2 to 2 years ago

5) The Will they are using is not the correct document.
Obviously the true Will which Michael signed was removed when the sisters entered the house contaminating the crime scene. The Will they are using was signed in LA on a day Michael was in NYC with me and Sharpton

6) Michael was stoned for the last week of his life. Murray could not start IV’s and was giving Michael Intramuscular shots of Propofol( remember Murray saying he gave him a 50mg dose of Propofol.) He hated Branca and would never ever resign with him. Why does the court not question any of this,

7)Because AEG owns LA, Cooley, The Police, and all of LA.

In years to come AEG will be richer and Michael’s Children will be penniless like the Children of Anna Nicole Smith.
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Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 29, 2011, 05:47:57 AM
"7)Because AEG owns LA, Cooley, The Police, and all of LA."

- yes Arnold, that was the idea I started up with a year or so ago, we'll see
if it's true. But it's a bit too obvious, truth never is IMHO suspicious//

I think Arnold read all the murder theory forums. It's like he's quoting them
directly.

Oh how much I want to see Michael's real Will!  /overreacting/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 30, 2011, 10:37:11 PM
Dr Klein is tweeting again. Here is one comment - which isn't odd, but I find the picture he posted with it a little out of place?

http://twitter.com/#!/awkmd


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awkmd Arnold Klein
Don't stay up too late on New Years Eve! pic.twitter.com/j1vcJJCF
7 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 30, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Here is something else he tweeted...

awkmd Arnold Klein
@BuzzNewz facebook.com/note.php?note_… Why Mr Jackson was irrational the last two weeks of his life!
29 Dec Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=348889221791280


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Skin Popping,Propofol and inability for rational thought
by Arnold W. Klein on Thursday, December 29, 2011 at 12:12am

On November of 2011 I reported to the Office of Health and Human circumstances in San Francisco that the medical records referring to Mr Michael Jackson were illegally released from my office.  Jason Pfeiffer, R.Charmley, B Boyer and Muhammed illegally released the Medical Records from my office pertaining to the treatment of Michael Jackson to create the subsequent media circus. Besides being released  copies of these records were sent to various entertainment conglomerates via internet. Please realize these records indicated a vastly larger amount of Demerol Mr Jackson received then was really given to him.and furthermore though indicated during the Murray trial I was not even in the USA most of May 2009 and other Dr's in my office administered the Demerol. Another important factor that has never been brought forward are the marks that covered Mr Jackson's body prior to his death. These are marks you commonly see in an individual who is no longer receiving drugs IV but because of the lack of vein's the drugs are delivered into the skin.This would be consistent with Murray's note when he stated he gave Mr Jackson a dose of 50 mg. of Propofol the night before he died. If Mr Jackson was receiving Propofol in this manner for the last 2 weeks of his life any decision regarding his finances,etc would be null and void in that he would totally be unable to make rational descicions during this time

Skin popping is a method of administration for the use of drugs by injecting or placing the substance or drug under the skin. It can include subcutaneous placement or intradermal placement though is also rarely used to mean intramuscular injection. It is however as a term distinct from the meaning of intravenous use or other methods not through the skin. Skin popping increases the duration of the high one gets from drugs. .Tetanus and other infections  have  been associated with skin-popping
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on December 30, 2011, 11:15:10 PM
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Here is something else he tweeted...

awkmd Arnold Klein
@BuzzNewz facebook.com/note.php?note_… Why Mr Jackson was irrational the last two weeks of his life!
29 Dec Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=348889221791280


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Skin Popping,Propofol and inability for rational thought
by Arnold W. Klein on Thursday, December 29, 2011 at 12:12am

On November of 2011 I reported to the Office of Health and Human circumstances in San Francisco that the medical records referring to Mr Michael Jackson were illegally released from my office.  Jason Pfeiffer, R.Charmley, B Boyer and Muhammed illegally released the Medical Records from my office pertaining to the treatment of Michael Jackson to create the subsequent media circus. Besides being released  copies of these records were sent to various entertainment conglomerates via internet. Please realize these records indicated a vastly larger amount of Demerol Mr Jackson received then was really given to him.and furthermore though indicated during the Murray trial I was not even in the USA most of May 2009 and other Dr's in my office administered the Demerol. Another important factor that has never been brought forward are the marks that covered Mr Jackson's body prior to his death. These are marks you commonly see in an individual who is no longer receiving drugs IV but because of the lack of vein's the drugs are delivered into the skin.This would be consistent with Murray's note when he stated he gave Mr Jackson a dose of 50 mg. of Propofol the night before he died. If Mr Jackson was receiving Propofol in this manner for the last 2 weeks of his life any decision regarding his finances,etc would be null and void in that he would totally be unable to make rational descicions during this time

Skin popping is a method of administration for the use of drugs by injecting or placing the substance or drug under the skin. It can include subcutaneous placement or intradermal placement though is also rarely used to mean intramuscular injection. It is however as a term distinct from the meaning of intravenous use or other methods not through the skin. Skin popping increases the duration of the high one gets from drugs. .Tetanus and other infections  have  been associated with skin-popping
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Here is something else he tweeted...

awkmd Arnold Klein
@BuzzNewz facebook.com/note.php?note_… Why Mr Jackson was irrational the last two weeks of his life!
29 Dec Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=348889221791280


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Skin Popping,Propofol and inability for rational thought
by Arnold W. Klein on Thursday, December 29, 2011 at 12:12am

On November of 2011 I reported to the Office of Health and Human circumstances in San Francisco that the medical records referring to Mr Michael Jackson were illegally released from my office.  Jason Pfeiffer, R.Charmley, B Boyer and Muhammed illegally released the Medical Records from my office pertaining to the treatment of Michael Jackson to create the subsequent media circus. Besides being released  copies of these records were sent to various entertainment conglomerates via internet. Please realize these records indicated a vastly larger amount of Demerol Mr Jackson received then was really given to him.and furthermore though indicated during the Murray trial I was not even in the USA most of May 2009 and other Dr's in my office administered the Demerol. Another important factor that has never been brought forward are the marks that covered Mr Jackson's body prior to his death. These are marks you commonly see in an individual who is no longer receiving drugs IV but because of the lack of vein's the drugs are delivered into the skin.This would be consistent with Murray's note when he stated he gave Mr Jackson a dose of 50 mg. of Propofol the night before he died. If Mr Jackson was receiving Propofol in this manner for the last 2 weeks of his life any decision regarding his finances,etc would be null and void in that he would totally be unable to make rational descicions during this time

Skin popping is a method of administration for the use of drugs by injecting or placing the substance or drug under the skin. It can include subcutaneous placement or intradermal placement though is also rarely used to mean intramuscular injection. It is however as a term distinct from the meaning of intravenous use or other methods not through the skin. Skin popping increases the duration of the high one gets from drugs. .Tetanus and other infections  have  been associated with skin-popping
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one minute he said there his records then they are not then he was out of the usa..and in my book and imo since he is a dr....and stated himself that he seen these marks on mj body due to skin popping would it not be his duty as a dr to report or tell the authoritys or shit someone not just keep giving mj more procdures and medications...if in fact this is all true??..as a friend even would he not be concern about the health of his so called friend??
huggs n love n faith
suzz
Here is something else he tweeted...

awkmd Arnold Klein
@BuzzNewz facebook.com/note.php?note_… Why Mr Jackson was irrational the last two weeks of his life!
29 Dec Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=348889221791280


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Skin Popping,Propofol and inability for rational thought
by Arnold W. Klein on Thursday, December 29, 2011 at 12:12am

On November of 2011 I reported to the Office of Health and Human circumstances in San Francisco that the medical records referring to Mr Michael Jackson were illegally released from my office.  Jason Pfeiffer, R.Charmley, B Boyer and Muhammed illegally released the Medical Records from my office pertaining to the treatment of Michael Jackson to create the subsequent media circus. Besides being released  copies of these records were sent to various entertainment conglomerates via internet. Please realize these records indicated a vastly larger amount of Demerol Mr Jackson received then was really given to him.and furthermore though indicated during the Murray trial I was not even in the USA most of May 2009 and other Dr's in my office administered the Demerol. Another important factor that has never been brought forward are the marks that covered Mr Jackson's body prior to his death. These are marks you commonly see in an individual who is no longer receiving drugs IV but because of the lack of vein's the drugs are delivered into the skin.This would be consistent with Murray's note when he stated he gave Mr Jackson a dose of 50 mg. of Propofol the night before he died. If Mr Jackson was receiving Propofol in this manner for the last 2 weeks of his life any decision regarding his finances,etc would be null and void in that he would totally be unable to make rational descicions during this time

Skin popping is a method of administration for the use of drugs by injecting or placing the substance or drug under the skin. It can include subcutaneous placement or intradermal placement though is also rarely used to mean intramuscular injection. It is however as a term distinct from the meaning of intravenous use or other methods not through the skin. Skin popping increases the duration of the high one gets from drugs. .Tetanus and other infections  have  been associated with skin-popping
[/quote
oh for the love
one minute these were his records the next there not then he was out of the USA and there are other Dr's that work in his office that could have treated mj and he just sign off on the records?..if he seen these so called marks on mj body why not as a Dr first not do something about it tell the authorities tell someone not do any more procedures or injections WTF??..as a friend you would think he would have said something to mj himself? :?: that would only be right as a friend to ask hey whats going on? but then  WTF?? do i know...
huggs n love n faith to all bearhug
suzz
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on December 30, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
ok thats crazy it posted different parts and " " from  voiceforthesilent when i posted it way b4 it was done aww hell nevermind lol..
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Tink on December 31, 2011, 05:06:15 AM
I wonder - like someone else said, did Michael show up at the foot of his bed one night, and demand he stop his crazy stuff about him allegedly being gay, when he's as heterosexual as can be? Then just mentioned a few gems, then took off quietly, like he would. /bravo/

Perhaps it scared the bezezus out of Arnie, and then he slipped back into denial, not comprehending that only he is responsible for all he wrought on himself.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 31, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
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I wonder - like someone else said, did Michael show up at the foot of his bed one night, and demand he stop his crazy stuff about him allegedly being gay, when he's as heterosexual as can be? Then just mentioned a few gems, then took off quietly, like he would. /bravo/

Perhaps it scared the bezezus out of Arnie, and then he slipped back into denial, not comprehending that only he is responsible for all he wrought on himself.

Oh, for sure. I think a lot of what we're hearing from some is their own guilty conscience after trying to profit off of MJ's name. My thought is that some of these people fed into these lies (because lies sell) and they found themselves entangled in the web of deceit. Now they are trying to undo some of the damage especially after finding out that perhaps Michael is alive and well. Even a fool is thought to be wise when he withholds his tongue from speaking.

Blessings
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: veronicafall on January 16, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
January 14th, 2012 Arnold Klein tweets:

" http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?paged=3 he is alive! "

 moonwalk_/

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Tink on January 16, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
So ah - Mikey did show up at the foot of his bed, and scare the bejeezus out of him for lying, then?  rr/
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on January 17, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
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January 14th, 2012 Arnold Klein tweets:

" http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?paged=3 he is alive! "

 moonwalk_/



Does he mean MJ or himself? I did not get it
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 24, 2012, 06:31:23 AM
What a weird picture:

https://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/161738702589136896/photo/1/large

Anybody knows its meaning?? Who's that woman following MJ??
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on January 24, 2012, 07:50:16 AM
could very well be wrong at this one too!,but to me it doesn't look like it's really Michael at this picture.

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 24, 2012, 02:44:56 PM
Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on January 24, 2012, 04:13:42 PM
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What a weird picture:

https://twitter.com/#!/awkmd/status/161738702589136896/photo/1/large

Anybody knows its meaning?? Who's that woman following MJ??

That´s an "artistic piece". The model does not look like MJ. The woman looks like is representing the desperate fan.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MissG on January 24, 2012, 04:14:43 PM
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Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.

Klein is a bit hysterical. I would not put my face under his scalpel now days.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on January 24, 2012, 04:41:48 PM

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Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.

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Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., 

I found that highly inappropriate for a doctor too. Though, probably he thinks that he can post this stuff, because he might think that he´s in the position that posting a few of these tweets won´t harm his reputation.

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I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???
 
That´s still a question for us and a know for Michael ;)

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 24, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
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Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.

Klein is a bit hysterical. I would not put my face under his scalpel now days.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mjj4ever777 on January 25, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
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Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.

I wish I had read this post before I went to Kleins twitter and started looking around! I also came across those porn pics...I can't believe he would post something like that, especially that very graphic one! Disgusting!! I don't mean to be judgmental, I actually hate doing that, but he could have kept those pictures private...just sayin.

Sending my Beautiful family LOVE and Blessings!
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Tink on January 25, 2012, 03:23:38 AM
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Tink - it would be great if MJ really did show up at the foot of his bed but probably not...love the image though.

Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., I am close to unfollowing him because he posted some pictures the other night and a couple of them were what I would call pornographic. I commented to him how disgusting it was given there are young people that may be following him. Disgusting is the understatement of the pictures he posted and I happened to be on a work computer at the time. I clicked off so fast my head was spinning and my heart is still racing 2 days later. Geez...the least he could do is forewarn people.

Anyway, if he's trying to be personable and approachable it's having the opposite effect on me. I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???

I've never seen that picture. Does it belong to Dr Klein?

Blessings.

Quote
Regarding Dr Klein - I work around a lot of doctors and I've never met anyone that does what he does, spilling his guts on Twitter, etc., 

I found that highly inappropriate for a doctor too. Though, probably he thinks that he can post this stuff, because he might think that he´s in the position that posting a few of these tweets won´t harm his reputation.

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I'm sure he must be a good doctor though as Michael trusted him???
 
That´s still a question for us and a know for Michael ;)

L.O.V.E.
[/quote]

It looks like a bad Photoshop job, every which way you look at it. The woman looks more like a dude in drag, with the man dressed as Michael, rebuking him. Well, what did you think would happen?

This doctor talked more about his patients than he should have - and now they're wanting a piece of him for it. "Do no harm."is the first rule doctors learn. Klein ripped that open.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 08, 2012, 03:18:32 AM
Admin: Sorry for bumping old thread.


Just posting a tweet from Klein.  Nothing riveting, just cataloging it for out collection

Arnold Klein ‏@awkmd
http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1337  on my upcoming book on Michael    (http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1337)



The link takes you to his website and an article about collecting art and artists.

I have survived the Botox lawsuit, my nurse’s marriage, and all those who have imitated and will imitate me.” Most recently the loss of my dear friend Elizabeth Taylor and the horrific death of the treasured Michael Jackson has left me scared in many ways. To be needlessly and unfairly attacked by the sensationalistic media is something no one wants. Just remember what Mr. Jackson once told me, “Greed Kills.” Mr. Jackson also showed me how to take vicious attacks and flip them into positive energy that further increases your ability and distance between you and your competitors;
this is how one becomes absolutely incomparable!




Disregard the part where he says MJ died a horrific death.  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 08, 2012, 03:22:54 AM

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1261

AWKMD says:   
September 24, 2012 at 11:05 pm   

skin popping is when instead of injecting the drug into a vein they inject it into muscle(IM). It makes the effect last much longer. The night before Michael died Murray said he gave Michael 5omg of Propofol. Propofol is a continuos IV so you don’t give a single dose as Murray described. but his incompetence suggests giving it IM.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 08, 2012, 03:23:39 AM
Arnold Klein ‏@awkmd

when I reach 5000 followers I will tell you who hired Murray.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 08, 2012, 03:25:51 AM
Link to Arnold's site, with an article about Branca trying to prevent Klein from telling truth about MJ death.

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1238

Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: hesouttamylife on October 08, 2012, 10:20:14 AM
Think I’ll add to that number and follow Klein so he can reach 5000 and spill the beans. Let’s see if he too is a compulsive liar and greedy monster.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: mindseye on October 08, 2012, 12:03:39 PM
Klein got in with the wrong ppl, took the bate and got the ass end of the deal. He'll start talking now that he has nothing left to lose. Scary world around MJ.
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on October 08, 2012, 07:24:17 PM
Well, we are all going to follow him to see what you have to say
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: RK on October 09, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
Arnie tweeted a  link about being no 1 today.

It's the link to his page containing testimonials from his patients.  By far the most disturbing thing is this creepy assed picture of the pope . MJ's testimonial is straight after the  poop...I mean the pope.
http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1183 (http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1183)

(http://www.arnoldwklein.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2012-08-06-at-9.34.10-PM.png)

Then Arnie goes into his explanation of the mystical number666 and turning it 180% to 999......I wonder if Arnie got that from TIAI? :suspect:


responses to TESTIMONIALS
itzel says:
September 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Image of Papa hands, illuminati 666 sign
AWKMD says:
September 16, 2012 at 9:02 pm
The key to understanding the true nature of life is the number 666. This is the number the illuminati lives by, because it is the sacred number of life and the key to manipulation of this third dimension.
This number conceals the true meaning of as above so below because 666 mirrors 999. Here is the secret, every thing you hear or see has to be turned 180 degrees in order to have a full overstanding to get a clear picture.
However look st the goggles on my head. He showed me this to indicate my attached magnifier gave me the power to heal. AWK

I just want to add....Arnie...if your reading...stop talking and promoting yourself so much. It doesn't help your credibility. It makes you look desperate .
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on October 09, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
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Arnie tweeted a  link about being no 1 today.

It's the link to his page containing testimonials from his patients.  By far the most disturbing thing is this creepy assed picture of the pope . MJ's testimonial is straight after the  poop...I mean the pope.
http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1183 (http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1183)

(http://www.arnoldwklein.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2012-08-06-at-9.34.10-PM.png)

Then Arnie goes into his explanation of the mystical number666 and turning it 180% to 999......I wonder if Arnie got that from TIAI? :suspect:


responses to TESTIMONIALS
itzel says:
September 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Image of Papa hands, illuminati 666 sign
AWKMD says:
September 16, 2012 at 9:02 pm
The key to understanding the true nature of life is the number 666. This is the number the illuminati lives by, because it is the sacred number of life and the key to manipulation of this third dimension.
This number conceals the true meaning of as above so below because 666 mirrors 999. Here is the secret, every thing you hear or see has to be turned 180 degrees in order to have a full overstanding to get a clear picture.
However look st the goggles on my head. He showed me this to indicate my attached magnifier gave me the power to heal. AWK

I just want to add....Arnie...if your reading...stop talking and promoting yourself so much. It doesn't help your credibility. It makes you look desperate .

















I don't like this photo, why choose that? :errrr:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: MJonmind on October 09, 2012, 10:56:08 PM
Klein is Jewish, and the majority of American Jews are atheists, so if he is in that group then in that case he wouldn't take the Bible and 666 seriously.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100101123413AAXIFM2
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: RK on October 09, 2012, 11:31:07 PM
Arnie didn't mention the Bible at all in his answer. He mentioned illuminatti, numerology and secret keys to manipulating this third dimension. In fact he says that 666 is the sacred number of life and the number the illuminatti lives by. I wonder if Arnie is into kabala?
Another thought that crossed my mind is that the poop was included with that particular picture because it is just so out there. Is it pointed humour?
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on October 10, 2012, 11:17:22 AM
John said that in the 666 there is wisdom, and only he who has understanding can count the number of the beast, for it is the number of  man  :icon_question:
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: suspicious mind on October 11, 2012, 07:14:03 AM
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John said that in the 666 there is wisdom, and only he who has understanding can count the number of the beast, for it is the number of  man  :icon_question:

sometimes i think that we are the beast
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: paula-c on October 15, 2012, 02:34:56 PM
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John said that in the 666 there is wisdom, and only he who has understanding can count the number of the beast, for it is the number of  man  :icon_question:

sometimes i think that we are the beast





Before the advent of Christ, the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies your pilgrimage on earth will unveil the "mystery of iniquity In the form of a religious deception that will give the men an apparent solution to their problems through the price of the apostasy of the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself by putting himself in the place of God and of his Messiah
Title: Re: Arnold Klein Twitter
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on October 15, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
Arnie Klein has his own worries to deal with but I am also one who believes the man has suffered a lot meaning "they" are making him look bad but then I do not think he is so perfect himself.
Maybe a bit over dramatic at times.

Symbolism are Freemason and Illuminati stuff, nothing people should really care about.
And I mean MOST symbols but I will not go into sensetive subjects here.

Arnie knows a lot and is telling some truths about the darker sides of things, but as always we must focus on the good things but a good thing is to be aware of the bad things.

I love all people no matter what and I hope he will get through his troubles with his chin held high.
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