Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => Everyone Else => Karen Faye => Topic started by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 06, 2010, 09:08:53 PM

Title: in on the hoax or not?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 06, 2010, 09:08:53 PM
Do you think Karen Faye is in on it? :?
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Post by: missdanipyt on July 06, 2010, 09:24:33 PM
I was wondering this today as well. What with all the talk about her tweets..
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Post by: ER911 on July 06, 2010, 09:27:12 PM
No way
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Post by: 2good2btrue on July 06, 2010, 10:54:11 PM
I would think that anyone invited to the private funeral would have to know...especially if they were green screened...just my thoughts.  She is playing a role in this game.  Remember, she claimed to do his makeup, for a viewing.  Yet we are told his face was too destroyed to have a viewing......Things that make you go Hmmmmm,,
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Post by: 2MuchMJLuv on July 07, 2010, 11:03:10 PM
I don't think that she's in on it. Some people will lie simply for the sake of lying or because they believe and hope to convince others. She tweeted that "Michael Died", my motto is "Michael died and a survivor derived"!!!!  :D
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Post by: foreverking on July 07, 2010, 11:40:28 PM
No green screen on the burial. It really happened.

KF may be in on it, but MJ had to fool the world, so maybe he realized he had to also fool those who were once close to him. Remember he fired KF in 2006, but brought her back for the TII tour.  I would guess she had not seen him in a long time when he called her to come back on tour with him.

So I think she's telling the truth when she says she did his makeup, but it took 9 hours to make him look like anything close to what MJ looked like. To her he was this sick, frail, skinny, victimized drug addict so yeah, he would look different than the MJ she knew in 2006. But the truth is, it wasn't MJ, it was his double and a double who could even fool those close to him.

MJ knew KF well enough to maybe not let her in on the hoax, but use her highly emotional personaility to feed the hoax.
Title: Re: in on the hoax or not?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 08, 2010, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: "foreverking"
No green screen on the burial. It really happened.

I'm sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with you on this. Please have a look at one of my videos:

[youtube:1sk2aq1p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l7swXS86ow[/youtube:1sk2aq1p]
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Post by: ~Souza~ on July 08, 2010, 08:39:14 PM
No, I don't think Karen is in.
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Post by: ~Souza~ on July 08, 2010, 08:40:30 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I would think that anyone invited to the private funeral would have to know...especially if they were green screened...just my thoughts.  She is playing a role in this game.  Remember, she claimed to do his makeup, for a viewing.  Yet we are told his face was too destroyed to have a viewing......Things that make you go Hmmmmm,,


I can't remember seeing her at the burial, was she there?
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Post by: Elsa on July 08, 2010, 08:49:54 PM
Weren't there a lot of differences in the building and scenery in the aerial view of the Funeral?
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Post by: Hazzely on July 08, 2010, 08:51:42 PM
Ok so why is she saying she did Michael's make up? She was supposed to know how he looked, I doubt she could have been fooled by any look-alike or double or whatever..anyways I don't even think there was any body. So what's that about? Who allegedly "did the makeup"? FL or Faye? How confusing..
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Post by: *Mo* on July 09, 2010, 02:38:12 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I would think that anyone invited to the private funeral would have to know...especially if they were green screened...just my thoughts.  She is playing a role in this game.  Remember, she claimed to do his makeup, for a viewing.  Yet we are told his face was too destroyed to have a viewing......Things that make you go Hmmmmm,,


I can't remember seeing her at the burial, was she there?

No she was not.  She was present at the private get together before the memorial (among many others), but not at the burial.

I don't think Karen was informed of the hoax prior to June 25 2009, I think she learned about the hoax through the internet.
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Post by: Game Player on July 09, 2010, 05:34:08 AM
I wouldn't trust her with such an important things but...
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Post by: Datroot on July 09, 2010, 05:56:52 AM
She was featured in TII at the end and in the credits.
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Post by: Disco on July 09, 2010, 06:30:39 AM
No I don't believe she is in on the hoax, She was not a friend of Michael's she was an employee & she says herself she was not allowed to speak to Michael during TII  8-)
I don't trust this woman one bit
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Post by: mehere on July 09, 2010, 05:22:33 PM
She's crazy.................like a fox.
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Post by: PJ4MJ on July 10, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: "Disco"
No I don't believe she is in on the hoax, She was not a friend of Michael's she was an employee & she says herself she was not allowed to speak to Michael during TII  8-)
I don't trust this woman one bit

Do you have a link to where she says this?  I haven't seen it but I'd like to check it out.  Thanks!
Title: Re: in on the hoax or not?
Post by: Sangre on August 03, 2010, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
Ok so why is she saying she did Michael's make up? She was supposed to know how he looked, I doubt she could have been fooled by any look-alike or double or whatever..anyways I don't even think there was any body. So what's that about? Who allegedly "did the makeup"? FL or Faye? How confusing..

I see exactly where you come from. After years and years of applying make-up on a man's face you wouldn't be fooled with a lookalike.  :shock:
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Post by: backstager on August 10, 2010, 05:32:45 PM
I don't think she's in it, but I think she learned about it after the 25th by hearsay. That's probably why she's so bitter-- her "beloved" Michael didn't include her in the gameplan. Just my humble opinion.
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Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2010, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: "backstager"
I don't think she's in it, but I think she learned about it after the 25th by hearsay. That's probably why she's so bitter-- her "beloved" Michael didn't include her in the gameplan. Just my humble opinion.

That's what I think as well...
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Post by: dragonflylilies on August 10, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
I dont think she is in on it.  I think she feels that something is not right and has probably been asking alot of questions.  For some reason, I just get the feeling that they were not as close as she would like to think.  Of course, I could be very wrong about this.  She just seems to be very short with MJ's fans that are just looking for answers.  I dont think MJ would like that of anyone to be short with his fans.
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Post by: Sangre on August 11, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
If Karen Faye was involved with the hoax, then how come Michael allows her to portray him as this dysfunctional man who couldn't understand what was happening to him?

If things KF has been saying are true, it's heartbreaking to say the least. No bashing intended, but if she saw what was happening, how come she didn't do anything about it? Was she afraid to speak out? Because right now it seems the complete opposite.
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Post by: mehere on August 11, 2010, 12:35:27 PM
She claims to have been very close to Michael.  So if she doesn't know she's incredibly naive to the point of stupid or is playing the game very well.  

I had to Unfollow her on Twitter.  Her comments were often vapid.
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Post by: jacilovesmichael on August 11, 2010, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "backstager"
I don't think she's in it, but I think she learned about it after the 25th by hearsay. That's probably why she's so bitter-- her "beloved" Michael didn't include her in the gameplan. Just my humble opinion.

That's what I think as well...

I think that makes the most sense. That would explain why she's been so rude to us "delusional hoaxers" but then turns around and writes beautiful things about Michael. She has mixed feelings because she loves him, but is offended that she was not included. I'm sure Michael loves her too, but was aware of her specific character flaws that could hinder the plan...OR he simply wanted the absolute bare MINIMUM of individuals to be "in on it". Probably a combination of both. I thinkthere's people in his own family that were not included as well.
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Post by: ForstAMoon on August 11, 2010, 01:40:39 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I would think that anyone invited to the private funeral would have to know...especially if they were green screened...just my thoughts.  She is playing a role in this game.  Remember, she claimed to do his makeup, for a viewing.  Yet we are told his face was too destroyed to have a viewing......Things that make you go Hmmmmm,,


I can't remember seeing her at the burial, was she there?

No she was not.  She was present at the private get together before the memorial (among many others), but not at the burial.

I don't think Karen was informed of the hoax prior to June 25 2009, I think she learned about the hoax through the internet.


I think she was also at the burial, the quality is pretty low, but it seems she was there with her BF

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Karen2.jpg)

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Still2.jpg)

day before burial

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Karendaybefore.jpg)
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Post by: MJonmind on August 11, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
Hate to compare the hoax to a pyramid, but what if there's different levels of awareness, involvement and complete understanding. There may be bottom rung people like KF who maybe just know MJ's doing a death hoax; Jermaine knows a higher level of what Michael's schedule might be like. Then there's the inner sanctum people like Lisa, Elizabeth and maybe Kenny O. that may know deeper significance and future scenarios in a fuller sense. And maybe nobody actually knows what Michael and TS know. Remember the song The Man, "His thoughts you can never tell." Maybe Michael has never really revealed himself completely to anyone...until now (ongoing future sense). (The illuminati have knowledge about what they do and their purpose, given in levels. Initiates know very little. Even those at the very top including 33 degree masons, say there are powers beyond them that give the commands, that they may not even be in complete knowledge of.)
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Post by: liegi on August 11, 2010, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Hate to compare the hoax to a pyramid, but what if there's different levels of awareness, involvement and complete understanding. There may be bottom rung people like KF who maybe just know MJ's doing a death hoax; Jermaine knows a higher level of what Michael's schedule might be like. Then there's the inner sanctum people like Lisa, Elizabeth and maybe Kenny O. that may know deeper significance and future scenarios in a fuller sense. And maybe nobody actually knows what Michael and TS know. Remember the song The Man, "His thoughts you can never tell." Maybe Michael has never really revealed himself completely to anyone...until now (ongoing future sense). (The illuminati have knowledge about what they do and their purpose, given in levels. Initiates know very little. Even those at the very top including 33 degree masons, say there are powers beyond them that give the commands, that they may not even be in complete knowledge of.)

Mjonmind, your explanation makes the most sense. There are probably very few people who know what happened. I think Lisa and Elizabeth know. Lisa wrote in her blog on June 26th and then complained there were no flowers at his tomb.  Elizabeth was with the kids at Universal Studio in October (just after she had surgery, no less!).  She also came out and raved about This Is It and said it should get an Academy Award.  I am not sure about Kenny Ortega.  I can't figure him out. I don't think Travis Payne knows. Frank Di Leo might have an idea, but I don't think he's in. Lou Ferrigno--probably has an idea. Mark Lester--might have an idea. Jermaine, Randy, Janet and LaToya know. What about his mother? Yes!
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Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 11, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I would think that anyone invited to the private funeral would have to know...especially if they were green screened...just my thoughts.  She is playing a role in this game.  Remember, she claimed to do his makeup, for a viewing.  Yet we are told his face was too destroyed to have a viewing......Things that make you go Hmmmmm,,


I can't remember seeing her at the burial, was she there?

No she was not.  She was present at the private get together before the memorial (among many others), but not at the burial.

I don't think Karen was informed of the hoax prior to June 25 2009, I think she learned about the hoax through the internet.


I think she was also at the burial, the quality is pretty low, but it seems she was there with her BF

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Karen2.jpg)

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Still2.jpg)

day before burial

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/Karendaybefore.jpg)

I don't know, the hair is different lengths, far too different for just one day.
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Post by: Hazzely on August 11, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
To me it's the same length but you can't see it well in that pic

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8678/sinttulovp.png) (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/sinttulovp.png/)
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Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 12, 2010, 03:23:53 AM
Quote from: "Hazzely"
To me it's the same length but you can't see it well in that pic

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8678/sinttulovp.png) (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/sinttulovp.png/)

Yes, but that's like right below her shoulders, the person at the funeral has it at least halfway down her back.

& if Karen was at the memorial, that would mean she's in on it, because the funeral was clearly green-screened.
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Post by: missdanipyt on August 12, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
MJFAN7 I have to say I absolutely love your signature!! Those pics of Michael are amazing :)
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Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 12, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: "missdanipyt"
MJFAN7 I have to say I absolutely love your signature!! Those pics of Michael are amazing :)

Aww! I knoww ! He looks so adorable.  :D (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/images/smilies/nesquik.gif)
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