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Title: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: cin_pyt on June 28, 2010, 11:56:18 PM
here is the link to some pictures with Janet, Randy, and Jermaine at the private FL memorial on the 25th.

http://foro.univision.com/t5/Michael-Jackson/Memorial-Privado-en-Forest-Lawn/td-p/398640984
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on June 29, 2010, 01:54:34 AM
I thought it was private? I guess they needed a paparazzi there to prove it happened. :|
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: bec on June 29, 2010, 02:20:13 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary2.jpg)
Note the purple Iris flowers, identical to the flowers used in Liberian Girl yellow shirt burial pics. Considering there are 300 species of Iris, I think this is quite coincidental. Also note the yellow ribbon tied around the bouquets. Yellow ribbon=homecoming, also color of false mourning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary3.jpg)
Note large palms flanking the crypt. Palm Sunday:
Quote
In the simplest of terms, Palm Sunday is an occasion for reflecting on the final week of Jesus' life. It is a time for Christians to prepare their hearts for the agony of His Passion and the joy of His Resurrection.
from: http://www.faithclipart.com/guide/Chris ... unday.html (http://www.faithclipart.com/guide/Christian-Holidays/what-is-palm-sunday.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary.jpg)
Seriously?

Additional pics:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary7.jpg)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: tusia6631 on June 29, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
hmm.. private ceremony but we have got pics!!!  :lol:
shamone guys.. they just couldn't do without photog..and then pics leaked to internet :)
i think that Janet looks great in short hair :)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 29, 2010, 06:22:20 AM
I think this was filmed the same night as the funeral...the only difference is the clothes the siblings are wearing.....which could have easily been changedfor these photos.  If you look at all the flowers and the crown, these are from the original funeral held back in September....there is no way they would have purchased all these flower arrangements all over again just for a show.....The crown doesn't look the same.....  Most of those people, are the same people who were at the funeral.....so why didn't we see those others arrive.....

That's why the security was so restricted.  They didn't want any fans seeing what was really in the empty mausoleum.  Same pillars as well used to stand the flowers on....
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Magnolia1791 on June 29, 2010, 07:00:25 AM
Something is missing ... I see what is happening there, but my heart remains untouched ... You never lose the impression that everything is played and draped perfectly ...

(Please excuse my bad english.)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: sk2001 on June 29, 2010, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I think this was filmed the same night as the funeral...the only difference is the clothes the siblings are wearing.....which could have easily been changedfor these photos.  If you look at all the flowers and the crown, these are from the original funeral held back in September....there is no way they would have purchased all these flower arrangements all over again just for a show.....The crown doesn't look the same.....  Most of those people, are the same people who were at the funeral.....so why didn't we see those others arrive.....

That's why the security was so restricted.  They didn't want any fans seeing what was really in the empty mausoleum.  Same pillars as well used to stand the flowers on....


But did Janet have short hair then?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Magnolia1791 on June 29, 2010, 07:37:05 AM
Quote from: "sk2001"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I think this was filmed the same night as the funeral...the only difference is the clothes the siblings are wearing.....which could have easily been changedfor these photos.  If you look at all the flowers and the crown, these are from the original funeral held back in September....there is no way they would have purchased all these flower arrangements all over again just for a show.....The crown doesn't look the same.....  Most of those people, are the same people who were at the funeral.....so why didn't we see those others arrive.....

That's why the security was so restricted.  They didn't want any fans seeing what was really in the empty mausoleum.  Same pillars as well used to stand the flowers on....


But did Janet have short hair then?

She didn't...
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: tusia6631 on June 29, 2010, 07:43:41 AM
no..i wasn't filmed the same night as funeral.. impossible..
1. Janet's got short hair now, then she didn't
2. we can see the family going out of the mausoleum.. there are pics from June 25 2010.. and the were dressed like on the pics above.. :)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: mumof3 on June 29, 2010, 07:57:32 AM
I del they are being extra sad as they learnt from their mistakes over the year I also feel janet hair must mean something I don't know what yet but this is to staged and acted. What will michael do next
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 29, 2010, 07:59:48 AM
Yes, there has been talk that she wore wigs anyhow..

And the family are the only ones that could have changed their clothes for this picture...

What about the crown????   Is it the same
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on June 29, 2010, 08:53:09 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Yes, there has been talk that she wore wigs anyhow..

And the family are the only ones that could have changed their clothes for this picture...

What about the crown????   Is it the same


I dont think the crown is the same, I think this is a different one.

 :)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 29, 2010, 09:12:41 AM
The memorial.....look at the crypt???  Does it look larger to you ????  Is it missing the engraved pictures on the sides.???   Looks either totally photoshopped or done the same time as the funeral.
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: paula-c on June 29, 2010, 10:08:28 AM
A photographer for a private event. This mausoleum is not "Michael" only ... and other graves?, and if a relative or relatives of people who are buried there wanted to enter the mausoleum that day? That would have happened? The mausaleo is completely full of people. 8-)
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: palmpre on June 29, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
got this from another forum
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Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: paula-c on June 29, 2010, 11:11:31 AM
not see La Toya posing for the photographers as in the Memorial :lol:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Red_Rose on June 29, 2010, 11:35:06 AM
I also notice something strange.... Where are all those sunflowers that were delivered to mausoleum? In these pictures there is no sunflower..   :?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: andy1andy2 on June 29, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: "Red_Rose"
I also notice something strange.... Where are all those sunflowers that were delivered to mausoleum? In these pictures there is no sunflower..   :?
That was exactly the first thing I noticed no sunflowers. Why wouldn't they have his favorite flowers there? :?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Kirsche on June 29, 2010, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: "Magnolia1791"
Something is missing ... I see what is happening there, but my heart remains untouched ... You never lose the impression that everything is played and draped perfectly ...

(Please excuse my bad english.)


I know what you're talkin about and I feel the same...When I see these pictures, I feel nothing...I don't know. Sorry It's not meant to be disrespectful but it all looks very staged and acted..And as some of you said if it's a PRIVATE memorial, why are there Paps?  And these pictures don't like they were made secretly
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: alovesmichael on June 29, 2010, 12:57:58 PM
No, I can't help it these pics make me very sad  :( . Why, oh why would they go through all of that (arranging thing, inviting people etc.) if Michael was indeed alive?! There is no explanation that's convincing enough...
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: tusia6631 on June 29, 2010, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: "Red_Rose"
I also notice something strange.... Where are all those sunflowers that were delivered to mausoleum? In these pictures there is no sunflower..   :?
maybe those sunflowers were on the outside? u saw that there were a lot of flowers..
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on June 29, 2010, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: "Magnolia1791"
Quote from: "sk2001"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
I think this was filmed the same night as the funeral...the only difference is the clothes the siblings are wearing.....which could have easily been changedfor these photos.  If you look at all the flowers and the crown, these are from the original funeral held back in September....there is no way they would have purchased all these flower arrangements all over again just for a show.....The crown doesn't look the same.....  Most of those people, are the same people who were at the funeral.....so why didn't we see those others arrive.....

That's why the security was so restricted.  They didn't want any fans seeing what was really in the empty mausoleum.  Same pillars as well used to stand the flowers on....


But did Janet have short hair then?
IsnĀ“t this the one-year-memorial or sth? Janet has short hair now.

She didn't...
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: scorpionchik on June 30, 2010, 12:06:25 AM
Oops, I saw myself in the video   :oops:  :)

No one was crying,instead they were smiling,  jeeze, go and figure how to believe that Michael is dead.  Katherin's and children's  absence is very ODD to me.  That was the day they have to be there, not in Gary.  Another good show :roll:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Red_Rose on June 30, 2010, 05:00:40 AM
Quote from: "tusia6631"
Quote from: "Red_Rose"
I also notice something strange.... Where are all those sunflowers that were delivered to mausoleum? In these pictures there is no sunflower..   :?
maybe those sunflowers were on the outside? u saw that there were a lot of flowers..
Yes, but I think those flowers from outside were from the fans....  :?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on June 30, 2010, 06:15:05 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Oops, I saw myself in the video   :oops:  :)

No one was crying,instead they were smiling,  jeeze, go and figure how to believe that Michael is dead.  Katherin's and children's  absence is very ODD to me.  That was the day they have to be there, not in Gary.  Another good show :roll:


Dont be embarassed you are now part of HIStory. ;)

 :D
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: llebreknit on June 30, 2010, 06:43:03 AM
We can not be sure whether he is dead or not. So, if you are into there, Michael (and I think he is), rest in peace  :cry:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 30, 2010, 08:11:33 AM
So if the family was aware that Sunflowers were MJ favourite flower, then why didn't they order some for him to be placed on the crypt???  Seems a bit odd doesn't it.?   It seems the family and the fans are on a different planet.  How could  they not know that?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: mmz on June 30, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
honestly,this makes me sad. For those wondering where are the sunflowers..sunflowers have a short life,and they cannot be there anymore of course.
ANd the crypt is not photoshopped..the comparison of the 2 pictures doesn't work.They are shot form differnet point of views..on higher,one lower.
 :cry:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: DancingTheDream on June 30, 2010, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
not see La Toya posing for the photographers as in the Memorial :lol:

Latoyah and Rebbie were not there
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: friendlikeme81 on July 06, 2010, 10:50:19 AM
we see the purple iris again, the link to Liberial Girl  ;)

[attachment=0:3tetxd34]randy and janet with purple iris.jpg[/attachment:3tetxd34]
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: MJonmind on July 06, 2010, 11:54:52 AM
Just my 2 cents. Somehow I missed these pics till now. I'm leaning to them taken on the ann., not back in Sept.  Could the white flowers on the tomb be silk, so they could easily be re-used. Remember all the hooplah about FL not being open for the fans. Even LK in the Jermaine interview made a special point about not being allowed into the building, but J could go in. Maybe the few family visiting other tombs were told to stay away that day because of so much hype, and the Jacksons had the place to themselves. I agree it looks like a Palm Sunday setup, a precurser to more dramatic events. They've supplied us with such a good variety of photos, some outside where it's obviously daytime-the rest inside-looking towards the front-towards the back-Janet in all scenes with her short hair.  There's no mistaking, as there's video of them arriving that day.  There must be more details they want us to find though...
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: beLIEving2 on July 06, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
When I first saw these pics I wondered what was with the camera up in the palms, then I thought maybe it is a security camera that is always there. But every pic I have seen other than this one there is no camera there. Then I got to thinking, if their service that day was suppose to be so private why was there a photog taking pics of Janet and Randy walking inside, looking all sad in front of where he is 'entombed', etc. What would be the purpose of these pics and the video tape, home movies :?: They act like they want privacy but they let all of this get out to the public? If it is just for the money and IF MJ really passed then this is so very sad and disrespectful to Michael. Unless I missed it where were Michaels friends-Elizabeth, Mac and Diana Ross? So odd that they would not be there that day, in rememberence. Of course, who knows, maybe one of them were with him that day!  :lol:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: teine21 on July 06, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
I think the photo with all the people was the same night as the burial too. We didn't see that many people enter & exit the masoleum. All we saw was the family. So the pics of Janet with short hair could really be from June 25th 2010. But the one inside with the guests seems fake. Also, I don't think she wore wigs. Have you seen her pics as a child & her other sisters as well as brothers, they were blessed with lots of nice hair. Why would she need wigs? She cut her hair for her newest movie role. & she looks great!
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 06, 2010, 04:01:15 PM
You know that Randy, Janet, Jermaine, etc..  all got paid for the photos dont you???

Making money from their brothers memorial...    selling photos to the press for their appearances.

This is why some of the family were not there, i believe.. and definitely why the children were not there.
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 06, 2010, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "paula-c"
not see La Toya posing for the photographers as in the Memorial :lol:

Latoyah and Rebbie were not there.. or Jackie or Marlon
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: kdkennedy74 on July 06, 2010, 06:30:41 PM
I watched an interview on 20/20 (I think) on the 25th of June where Katherine was being interviewed. They made it clear that she was doing the interview to promote her new book "Never Can Say Goodbye" and she specifically stated in that interview that she was not going to be attending ANY of the memorials on the anniversary of her son's death yet she was in Gary, IN. I'm not sure what to make of that?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: Supervision on July 06, 2010, 07:15:49 PM
They all decided it would be best to scatter and cover the territories, for the photo op.and monies to be made, and all would get a chance to chase the mighty dollar even on that day?
It is a sad affair,not to mention major disrespect to Michael if he is really gone.A private mourning should have been kept private. And Janet, if she was able to keep her marriage to Elizondo private for so many years without anyone having a clue, it is safe to say, she knows more than a passing thing how something can be held in
Private.

Business as usual...that it is what it seems the remembrance day  meant to this family.
 We love you Michael!!!
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: For All Time on October 21, 2010, 07:14:08 AM
I do believe Michael is alive, he has to be alive !!! He's family can't be so cruel to laugh after the ceremony, to act like nothing happened to him ...I've seen this pictures and I'm wondering where are the others ? This is a big event and only a few members of his family are there ?  :roll:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: suspicious mind on October 21, 2010, 07:29:21 AM
what is interesting for me regarding flowers. they came with flowers they left with flowers. uhh why?
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: GINAFELICIA on October 21, 2010, 10:51:14 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
what is interesting for me regarding flowers. they came with flowers they left with flowers. uhh why?

yes why?!
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: truthprevails on October 21, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: "Supervision"
They all decided it would be best to scatter and cover the territories, for the photo op.and monies to be made, and all would get a chance to chase the mighty dollar even on that day?
It is a sad affair,not to mention major disrespect to Michael if he is really gone.A private mourning should have been kept private. And Janet, if she was able to keep her marriage to Elizondo private for so many years without anyone having a clue, it is safe to say, she knows more than a passing thing how something can be held in
Private.

Business as usual...that it is what it seems the remembrance day  meant to this family.
 We love you Michael!!!

I agree.  Incredibly disrespectful if Michael is gone!  Sunglasses, photographer (WTH)... And Katherine trying to sell a book on that day rather than remember her son?! :shock:  :(  :cry:
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: msteetee34 on October 22, 2010, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: "bec"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary2.jpg)
Note the purple Iris flowers, identical to the flowers used in Liberian Girl yellow shirt burial pics. Considering there are 300 species of Iris, I think this is quite coincidental. Also note the yellow ribbon tied around the bouquets. Yellow ribbon=homecoming, also color of false mourning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary3.jpg)
Note large palms flanking the crypt. Palm Sunday:
Quote
In the simplest of terms, Palm Sunday is an occasion for reflecting on the final week of Jesus' life. It is a time for Christians to prepare their hearts for the agony of His Passion and the joy of His Resurrection.
from: http://www.faithclipart.com/guide/Chris ... unday.html (http://www.faithclipart.com/guide/Christian-Holidays/what-is-palm-sunday.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary.jpg)
Seriously?

Additional pics:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/fam1yranniversary7.jpg)

I must admit Janet, Jermaine, and Randy take a nice sibling photo.  They are a cute family.  I see Austin MJ nephew there too.  It does seem weird that you only see those 4 family members there.  Austin is there but where is his mom Rebbie?  I know Austin is really close with his Auntie Janet.  The Jackson clan is huge and that's all who made an appearance.
Title: Re: private memorial at FL pics
Post by: mikeyslittlehoaxer on December 10, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
i know katherine was in gary but the kids were in hawaii or something i dont know who was with them mabey their daddy? =)
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