Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: *Mo* on December 09, 2009, 03:03:02 AM
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Posted Dec 9th 2009 12:20AM by TMZ Staff
The Jackson family didn't spend Thanksgiving eating stuffing -- instead MJ's kids spent the holiday stuffing a basketball into a hoop in a $25,000-per-night super suite at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.
[youtube:3mcgj1el]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGopwygVT-Y[/youtube:3mcgj1el]
A member of the fam posted footage of the night on YouTube, showing Prince playing around with Randy and Jermaine Jackson's kids in the biggest hotel suite we've ever seen -- complete with its own basketball court.
As Jehovah's Witnesses, the Jackson family doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving in the traditional sense. Instead, we're told the Jacksons had a big family dinner a few days before the holiday.
Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
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It looks like a BB house to me, too. :shock:
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I have to admit I felt uncomfortable watching this. Its very private and its the first time Ive seen any of the Jacksons leak info of themselves online. First of all the hotel suit is absolutely ridiculous in size and second of all they make themselves look really bad and use bad language calling themselves ''nigger'' in a degrading way and the way they show off how much money they got (for being KIDS!) makes them look really superficial. Blanket is heard in the background and Prince is the one in blue shorts playing basketball.
I hope these kids dont turn into money hungry monsters. :(
[youtube:2h692pah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGopwygVT-Y&feature=related[/youtube:2h692pah]
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I didn't see Prince. How sad. When I see things like this I begin to lose hope. Do you think he would allow this if he were alive? I feel sorry for those kids.
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Doesn't really surprise me at all as some teenagers are monsters now, I hear the language of kids nowadays and they are using words I didn't even know when I was that age. Michaels kids are mixing with their cousins now so I guess anything is possible and lets not forget that although Michael sheltered them really well from any kind of bad influence how much longer could he have sheltered them-especially Prince and Paris now they are older? Kids grow up too quickly now, society has made it that way, sad but a cold hard fact. Kids always rebel from parents anyway-even the most polite well behaved ones-I have seen it with my friends/family and the sweetest most polite children once they hit teens are for a few years are unfit for the human race! If you have ever watched the Harry Enfield show Kevin and Perry are typical teenagers. Don't expect them to be little angels as kids are usually on their best behaviour in front of a parent/grandparent anyway.
Also Michael and Janet were brought up with Jermaine and LaToya and look at the difference in them all? just because one person has very humanitarian and the sweetest qualities doesn't mean to say other family members will have. I am not knocking the kids but how many kids born to really famous wealthy parents in LA are there who turn out well adjusted, unspoiled and not needing therapy? I don't really think they stand a chance surrounded by people in a false materialistic environment in the part of the world they are living in as their Father didn't either. Lets hope that he is far far away and they will soon be joining him.
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Yeah that was a bit discouraging to see. They acted like they'd never been in a place like that before. Maybe they haven't. Wonder whose money is being used to pay for all of that!
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Omg that is sad!! Where is the video at? I hope they dont turn out bad, he tried hard it seems like to atleast keep them well grounded.
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maybe I´m blind, but I don´t see Prince or Blanket...
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Yes, you're right, teenagers can get ugly. But I think if MJ were around things would be different. Remember that Dave Dave said our first thoughts should be with his children. Can you just imagine what a shock it must be for them? Having MJ as your dad and now.......I can't bear to think about it, it is too sad. I hope he is still around.
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maybe I´m blind, but I don´t see Prince or Blanket...
well i didnt see mj :lol:
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I've given it some time on whether I should post my thoughts or not, but I'm going to do it anyway...
I have posted this video with this comment:
Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
The majority of replies are comments on the subjects of the video - the kids - the emotional aspect.
Earlier this week I posted a reply to this photo:
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
My reply was:
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
Again the majority of replies were comments on the subject of the photo - Michael - the emotional subject.
To me the location of where the video was taken and the drawing on the t-shirt stood out more than anything else. Apparently I'm one of the very few who's attention was drawn to this, so my question is:
Am I seeing ghosts, or would it be a good idea to try to get less emotional involved when looking at things?
I hope I'm not offending anyone, that is the last thing I want to do, these are just my thoughts...
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You're right.
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Indeed interesting post. :idea:
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Well honestly after watching the video I am only left with a lot of questions really..
1. Who are they staying with there? (The brothers are out there doing interviews?)
2. Why did they tape this and put it on youtube and for who really? (It's not that shocking to share with the world)
3. Again Tmz, why would TMZ put this up, this isn't news worthy is it? Especially since you can barely see Michael's kids and no offense but I think it is pretty clear that the media is mostly just interested in them.
4. Who paid for a suite like that? (Like seriously, I think MIchael is the only one who had that kind of money)
Honestly one of the first thoughts that popped in my head after watching it was if Michael is actually staying there with them and this is like some kind of teaser or ''let's see who gets it'' kind of thing.
I don't know maybe it's the too much time spend on this site talking ;)
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Well honestly after watching the video I am only left with a lot of questions really..
1. Who are they staying with there? (The brothers are out there doing interviews?)
2. Why did they tape this and put it on youtube and for who really? (It's not that shocking to share with the world)
3. Again Tmz, why would TMZ put this up, this isn't news worthy is it? Especially since you can barely see Michael's kids and no offense but I think it is pretty clear that the media is mostly just interested in them.
4. Who paid for a suite like that? (Like seriously, I think MIchael is the only one who had that kind of money)
Honestly one of the first thoughts that popped in my head after watching it was if Michael is actually staying there with them and this is like some kind of teaser or ''let's see who gets it'' kind of thing.
I don't know maybe it's the too much time spend on this site talking ;)
IM THINKING THE SAME AS YOU AT THE MOMENT I CANNOT THINK CLEAR I HAVE HAD ONLY 2 HOURS SLEEP,AND MY BRAIN HAS LEFT HOME :lol: :lol:
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I thought Prince was there playing basketball? And kept shouting, "noooooooo, you suck!" ? And Blanket was there playing his Mario game? I heard *Mario dies* then someone shouted "NO!" :?
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I did a google search on posh hotels, and based on what was said on the Video i think it may be the Las vegas one, it features a half size basketball court in the suite.
http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/S ... xtfmt=show (http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Super_Swank/ci.Super_Posh_Hotel_Suites.show?vgnextfmt=show)
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Well honestly after watching the video I am only left with a lot of questions really..
1. Who are they staying with there? (The brothers are out there doing interviews?)
2. Why did they tape this and put it on youtube and for who really? (It's not that shocking to share with the world)
3. Again Tmz, why would TMZ put this up, this isn't news worthy is it? Especially since you can barely see Michael's kids and no offense but I think it is pretty clear that the media is mostly just interested in them.
4. Who paid for a suite like that? (Like seriously, I think MIchael is the only one who had that kind of money)
Honestly one of the first thoughts that popped in my head after watching it was if Michael is actually staying there with them and this is like some kind of teaser or ''let's see who gets it'' kind of thing.
I don't know maybe it's the too much time spend on this site talking ;)
Far too risky wouldn't you think? Cannot imagine it at all myself and it would be totally foolhardy and illogical.
If all the sightings/assumptions are correct then he is out and about more than when he was "alive"! :lol: :lol:
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Well honestly after watching the video I am only left with a lot of questions really..
1. Who are they staying with there? (The brothers are out there doing interviews?)
2. Why did they tape this and put it on youtube and for who really? (It's not that shocking to share with the world)
3. Again Tmz, why would TMZ put this up, this isn't news worthy is it? Especially since you can barely see Michael's kids and no offense but I think it is pretty clear that the media is mostly just interested in them.
4. Who paid for a suite like that? (Like seriously, I think MIchael is the only one who had that kind of money)
Honestly one of the first thoughts that popped in my head after watching it was if Michael is actually staying there with them and this is like some kind of teaser or ''let's see who gets it'' kind of thing.
I don't know maybe it's the too much time spend on this site talking ;)
Far too risky wouldn't you think? Cannot imagine it at all myself and it would be totally foolhardy and illogical.
If all the sightings/assumptions are correct then he is out and about more than when he was "alive"! :lol: :lol:
I know,but nothing wrong with wisfull thinking though ,right? ;)
Also i'm sick at the moment so I'm not really thinking things fully through I guess :oops:
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I don't see Michael's kids here anywhere.
This doesn't look like suite, too big ... and if it is ...who is paying for this?
I absolutely agree with Mo.
I dont know, but a few weeks ago we learned that the Jackson family would host the first Christmas for Michael's children...and now TMZ says they dont or didn't celebrate the holiday that usually marks the beginning of the Christmas season?
http://www.examiner.com/x-964-LA-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m10d30-Jackson-family-to-host-first-Christmas-for-MJs-kids
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LOL! Was that Blanket? "You SSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!"
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I have to admit I felt uncomfortable watching this. Its very private and its the first time Ive seen any of the Jacksons leak info of themselves online. First of all the hotel suit is absolutely ridiculous in size and second of all they make themselves look really bad and use bad language calling themselves ''nigger'' in a degrading way and the way they show off how much money they got (for being KIDS!) makes them look really superficial. Blanket is heard in the background and Prince is the one in blue shorts playing basketball.
I hope these kids dont turn into money hungry monsters. :(
I don't think it's that private or else the kid wouldn't have uploaded it. I am sure he realizes that once a video is uploaded it can be seen by anyone and especially if your last name is Jackson. And about the N word used, I'm sure they said "nigga" which is supposedly the proper way the brothers use it. I wish they wouldn't use it and I tried to persuade my peeps who do use it, that it's not a good thing but the guys just like using that word. What can you do?
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Hmmmm, I don't know. I didn't really look at it as a clue in any way. It made me sad, really. It seems like they are just saying, "Look what we have and you don't." They were amazed at how big the suite was and they were in it. I didn't see MJ's kids so maybe they are carrying out MJ's wishes to not be exploited. I just hope they keep their innocence a little longer!
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No, you´re right!
I've given it some time on whether I should post my thoughts or not, but I'm going to do it anyway...
I have posted this video with this comment:
Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
The majority of replies are comments on the subjects of the video - the kids - the emotional aspect.
Earlier this week I posted a reply to this photo:
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
My reply was:
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
Again the majority of replies were comments on the subject of the photo - Michael - the emotional subject.
To me the location of where the video was taken and the drawing on the t-shirt stood out more than anything else. Apparently I'm one of the very few who's attention was drawn to this, so my question is:
Am I seeing ghosts, or would it be a good idea to try to get less emotional involved when looking at things?
I hope I'm not offending anyone, that is the last thing I want to do, these are just my thoughts...
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If you don't see Prince, Paris, and Blanket here's a more detailed look at where they are and what they're doing in the video: http://weloveppb.webs.com/apps/forums/t ... nte-jaafar (http://weloveppb.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/1717503-prince-paris-and-blanket-featured-in-a-home-video-by-randy-donte-jaafar)
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It appears to me that Jermaine's boys aren't use to living the high life like this. Did anyone else notice how they kept acting in complete awe of the size of the suite? One of them even comments on how ridiculous it is that the place is so huge. It looks to me like even the young ones can see that their uncles money is being exploited. JMO
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@*MO*
i mentioned in the photo thread about people looking at the bigger picture an not concentrating on michaels appearence etc!!
nobody took me on tho.. so i tried!! :roll:
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It appears to me that Jermaine's boys aren't use to living the high life like this. Did anyone else notice how they kept acting in complete awe of the size of the suite? One of them even comments on how ridiculous it is that the place is so huge. It looks to me like even the young ones can see that their uncles money is being exploited. JMO
WOW you're so right. That's a different prespective, but you're right, they did sort of seem in awe of the place. Kind of like a; "omg this place is niiiiiiiice we have to capture this on film." sort of thing, instead of; "lookie here lookie here i'm rich, you're not!" sort of thing. :!:
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Getting back to what Mo said about not looking at this thing emotionally. I thought about that a lot. Why are we constantly being fed things about the kids? Either Paris, Prince and Blanket are being used by the Jackson family for their own purposes or they are providing clues for the hoax. The Universal Studios outing with Elizabeth Taylor was certainly suspicious. Then there have been the umpteen photo shoots going and coming to karate school (the last one with the umbrellas). Now we have a huge hotel suite. I can't figure out why they have released this video, unless it figures into Michael's plans.
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I'm trying to figure out if "LOST" is a clue. Just out of the blue, the kid said that "LOST" is the best show out there (which I agree btw). What made him say that?
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This video frustrated me. Not only are they using Michael's money, at one point they used the word "nigger" and just seemed like cocky kids trying to show off how they are benefiting from MJ's death. This kind of stuff makes me think that he might be gone, because no way would he allow this :|
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I have removed my post since my opinion was attacked. It was what I felt and saw and in no way passing judgment on the children. There behavior to me was what it was but others can judge my opinion and say they are not judging me. I send peace and love to the children and I will not speak my opinion so freely for it was not fact but only an observation!!!! I am not writing a book about this youtube film they have recorded or making a movie ABOUT IT and I would not even state my opinion of what I saw and what it meant to me EVEN IF I WAS on a talk show.
Really I will not discuss any other post story or video unless it is regarding Michael Jackson death and helping to bring the truth to light. How these children behaved is none of my business and what I feel and think does not matter. I am not in there lives. I do not even own a TV and I got this computer because I need it for my work. Michael Jackson death is why I am hear and I hope that we will all find the answers to this puzzle and THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.
INTEGRTIY
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I've given it some time on whether I should post my thoughts or not, but I'm going to do it anyway...
I have posted this video with this comment:
Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
The majority of replies are comments on the subjects of the video - the kids - the emotional aspect.
Earlier this week I posted a reply to this photo:
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
My reply was:
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
Again the majority of replies were comments on the subject of the photo - Michael - the emotional subject.
To me the location of where the video was taken and the drawing on the t-shirt stood out more than anything else. Apparently I'm one of the very few who's attention was drawn to this, so my question is:
Am I seeing ghosts, or would it be a good idea to try to get less emotional involved when looking at things?
I hope I'm not offending anyone, that is the last thing I want to do, these are just my thoughts...
well sense you dont want to offend anyone i am...LOL
yall are missing the point its not about what is said or the comments...the bigger picture is that TMZ said
A( they were in a hotel suite and clearly this is not a suite..i dont care what anyone says..posh or not...
b(they say mjs kids are there but all you hear are voices and see some bodys..no clear shot of them..and to everyone who says that they "hear" prince and/or blanket..please tell me where you heard them speak before????
yall be missing the point of alot of clues that are posted becaue you busy talking about things that dont have anything to do with why we are here..we are not here to discuss the n word or whose money paid for it....
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I found this about the hotel suite...
The room was comped, it wasn't coming out of their estate. MJ was good friends with the Maloof's before he died from when he was living in Vegas. The Maloof family owns the Palms and the kids still spend time with them after his passing.
I don't know if it's true, but it makes me feel better because I can't imagine MJ shelling out $25,000 for a room for the kids to go crazy in without him there.
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Im sorry but i feel like i have to stick up for these kids
I know that everyone has their thoughts on the N word but yall do have to understand they are what 18, 19 year old boys and its a word often used by young kids no harm was meant or done. I am not sayin that its right to use it but its not the end of the world and that does not make them bad people and i dont know how old yall are and where your from but being a young, black adult i think yall took this whole clip out of context..it would be the same if i went on vacation and bought a purse and sent a picture to my friend like.." like at what i got in miami.." yes its braggin but its not like ther like on there like " yea mike died so im living like this :roll: " again their kids..maybe im taking up for them because there my lil cousins and brother age and i know how teenage boys act, and my family is from LA 2 so i know the culture..but its not that serious and mike has a song or 2 where rappers have used nigga in there verse on his song on so i doubt he feels that strong about it
I dont know, but a few weeks ago we learned that the Jackson family would host the first Christmas for Michael's children...and now TMZ says they dont or didn't celebrate the holiday that usually marks the beginning of the Christmas season?
http://www.examiner.com/x-964-LA-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m10d30-Jackson-family-to-host-first-Christmas-for-MJs-kids
this was something that me and some other brought up in the chat...its doesnt even make sense
I don't think it's that private or else the kid wouldn't have uploaded it. exactly...he put it up his self...and i dont see anything private about this video..and they way they were talking it was meant to be seen...
I'm trying to figure out if "LOST" is a clue. Just out of the blue, the kid said that "LOST" is the best show out there (which I agree btw). What made him say that?
i also thought that that was hella random...i think that the video was set up..talking about the lost show, kinda showing the "kids" then the dramatic ass ending, plus it was on tmz...
This video frustrated me. Not only are they using Michael's money, at one point they used the word "nigger" and just seemed like cocky kids trying to show off how they are benefiting from MJ's death. This kind of stuff makes me think that he might be gone, because no way would he allow this :|
allow what? for the kids to be somewhere having fun, playing basketball? staying in a nice suite for the holidays? being with there family?benefiting from mikes death?? wow
The children seemed bored and had nothing to do. They seemed neglected like they have no family.
neglected?? :roll:
They seemed to have know adult supervision. They seemed alone and lonely. Very sad!
alone and loney?? being goofy with each other and playing basketball is lonely?
Just some body guards. Pretty sad!!! The hotel just looked like any other hotel. It was not a motel Inn but it was okay!! Michael children have been to the middle east and many countries across the board so I do not know what this was about. They all had nothing to do that was productive so they decided like children to tape themselves doing nothing and saying silly and bad things!! They did not exemplify children who are deep thinkers, children who read and are like the indigo children.
nothing productive to do? arent they on vacation? you just saying anything at this point...lol so because they make a 4min clip there dummies who dont read?and they dont think?
They seemed just like all the rest and just want to follow the crowd.
follow the crowd?? do you personally know them?? cause your speaking like you know them and i know you dont think you picked up all of that information from a 4 min clip :roll:
im sorry but i had to post again because the comments about he kids are out of context and more than anything rude. didnt mike teach people not to judge someone unless you speak to them? but yet people are on here talking bad about his nephews who they never spoke with and making harsh judgements about kids at that. i dont even post on here that much because it seems everyone know mike and what he would and wouldnt do and now everyone knows his kids and nephews 2 and how mike would feel about the clip...yall need to get a grip and realize WE dont know mike personally and dont know what he does or doesnt do...or anything about those kids
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I would also like to say to misha86 that I am so sorry for being judgmental about what I saw and felt.
Thank you for sharing your feelings, opinions about what I had written.
I understand that this was your observation.
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I HAVE NOT JUDGED THEM AT ALL.
really? these sound like judgements to me
They seemed neglected like they have no family. . They seemed alone and lonely. Very sad!
this is judgemental
They did not exemplify children who are deep thinkers, children who read and are like the indigo children. They seemed just like all the rest and just want to follow the crowd.
and so is this...
WHY DID I SAY THAT!! BECAUSE USUALLY WITH THAT MANY CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND IN A HOTEL ROOM THERE ARE SOME ADULTS AROUND.
I DID NOT SEE ANY..
you didnt see any, which does not mean that they were not there...now you making assumptions..
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Some of you all are getting it wrong about the n word being used. He said "nigga" and not "nigger". Among black youths, there is a difference. They were behaving the way most kids would behave when you get a bunch of them together.
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Another thing I noticed is after he says nigga please he calls donte bruce leroy..isn't that the dude from the last dragon and isn't that 1 of his lines 4rm the movie? And isn't that a barry gordy movie?
Posted Dec 9th 2009 12:20AM by TMZ Staff
The Jackson family didn't spend Thanksgiving eating stuffing -- instead MJ's kids spent the holiday stuffing a basketball into a hoop in a $25,000-per-night super suite at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.
[youtube:25kiqshh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGopwygVT-Y[/youtube:25kiqshh]
A member of the fam posted footage of the night on YouTube, showing Prince playing around with Randy and Jermaine Jackson's kids in the biggest hotel suite we've ever seen -- complete with its own basketball court.
As Jehovah's Witnesses, the Jackson family doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving in the traditional sense. Instead, we're told the Jacksons had a big family dinner a few days before the holiday.
Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
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Please dont shoot me this is just my opinion, i dont think this appears to be hotel suite either, its more like someones house and the kids,well, are we absolutely sure this is prince and blanket? :?:
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Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
Mo, you mean something FAKE ? Location made just for reality shows and this kind of stuff for a limited period ..?
I must live in another world, because i didn't know that a suite like that existed before :lol: :shock:
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Yup, that is what I meant...
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Could be Hardwood Suite in Las Vegas..
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Now that doesn't look like a hotel suite to me, it looks more like a location where programs like in example Big Brother and Groomer Has it are recorded.
Mo, you mean something FAKE ? Location made just for reality shows and this kind of stuff for a limited period ..?
I must live in another world, because i didn't know that a suite like that existed before :lol: :shock:
Yea it does look @ the multiple showers and the locker room and the basket ball court..it looks like a reality house 4 a show based on basketball players....did u see how big the jacuzi was..donte said he was 5'10 and he laided down flat..and the basketball players on the wall
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Could be Hardwood Suite in Las Vegas..
Yes! I have to quote myself. It´s definitely Hardwood Suite!!!
You can see it on the ground of the basketball court! There´s the same sign!
http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_3.php (http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_3.php)
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Hope I don't offend anyone by saying - didn't know Jackson family's kids (little Paris, Prince and Blanket excluded) were thugs lol.
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Could be Hardwood Suite in Las Vegas..
Yes! I have to quote myself. It´s definitely Hardwood Suite!!!
You can see it on the ground of the basketball court! There´s the same sign!
http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_3.php (http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_3.php)
That explains why it looks like a reality show suite (The real world Las Vegas was filmed at Palms).
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Thanksgiving in a suite of $25.000,+ no cents, is that per night or did they buy that suite?
What does any child need a 25.000 $ suite for? But more importantly: didn't a famous member of the Jackson family once said:".....stay humble..."?! And didn't let that same famous member, also great humanitarian, enjoy many many children of his Neverland estate?!
Now, how many children could have received the most needed medication in Africa and other places for that $ 25.000,--?
Isn't this extravagantcy rather ill-mannered, of whoever decided to do it this way. The latter because I don't know who paid for this suite.