Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 08, 2009, 10:55:41 AM
http://www.etonline.com/documents/cmurr ... vit_et.PDF (http://www.etonline.com/documents/cmurrayaffidavit_et.PDF)

I read through it. I dont know what to make of it. Its things like these that make be doubt the hoax. If anyone has anything to reply to differ than do. I wonder how far they can go through the lawsystem with all these investigations if this was not true. Or maybe these papers are false. I dont know.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: michaelsupporter on December 08, 2009, 11:06:02 AM
Documents could prove:
 1) Either MJ is dead OR
 2) MJ is made to look dead-to further an investigation to completion.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Suzy on December 08, 2009, 11:14:26 AM
Guys I noticed that on each paper stand the letters E.T.And those have spread also the ambulance photo.Am I wrong or are these documents made by themselve??
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 08, 2009, 11:40:42 AM
Some murder investigation when the "perp" is allowed to continue to practice medicine after "confessing" to giving Michael the stuff that "killed" him...
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: mjboogie on December 08, 2009, 11:56:35 AM
OK didn't Murray lie? OK I know I will have to read this a few times before everything just sinks in because it is a lot of info. Ok Murray lied to the UCLA Staff? He told them he gave MJ two drugs that particular day and neither one of them was named as Propofol. ALso once LAPD interviewed him he stated to LAPD (what he did not state to UCLA when they brought MJ in) that he gave MJ propofol!!! Another thing is I got confused on the caller. It was Alvarez right? Not Michael.  Another thing is if Murray found MJ in distress.. ummmmm..... well..... why did he spend soooo much time on his bleeping cell phone!!! :evil:  :evil: Heck , he should have called 911 before he called anything else!! Another thing... I thought per (Latoya) that prince was not summoned up stairs? But Kai Chase says Murray did call for Prince!!! IDK guys this is definitley legite info. These documents could mean what we have been fearing for almost 6 months! That our beloved MJ was I can't bear to say it (Murdered! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: . But then if MJ was murdered there would not be a motive would it? I mean the way LAPD is handling this case? IDK anymore, anything!! Please lets all study the documents and report our findings. I know we can't give up until we know the truth. MJ deserves the truth no matter how bad it may be right? :cry:  :cry:  BTW just because it is coming from E NEws (still looks legit to me they are documents filed in court)
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 08, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Good points everyone.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on December 08, 2009, 12:36:26 PM
If Michael Jackson was murder,than I find his family is handeling it very well! :shock: To loose a familly member is very hard but murder!!I don't know but the grieving process  would be impossible for me until justice was served...I would have lots of anger feelings and I would yell for justice.To me none of his family member behave likes this is a murder.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: tinker_bell on December 08, 2009, 12:46:51 PM
This document has been released by TMZ on November 20th, it's really the same. With same typos too (Grace Owanda - sic) and same absurd story by Murray...

http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/20/dr-conrad ... arrant-bn/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/20/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-applied-pharmacy-propofol-drugs-prescriptions-search-warrant-bn/)

If the case has been ruled as manslaughter and even the court papers released, why Murray was free to return to his practice? Is he Defendant in the case or a key witness? What about Klein and other doctors who allegdly gave MJ Propofol and other drugs? Oh yeah, we also saw the pharmacy they've searched, there's a big thread on that!
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Secret Dove on December 08, 2009, 12:51:56 PM
I don't know what to think. :?  I do know that ET has NOT mentioned that MJs case has been turned into a murder investigation. I watch it every night to see if they'll talk about the case and they haven't said ONE word! Heck ,they don't even talk about the case anymore! The only time they'll mention MJs name was when TII came into theaters, and his brothers reality tv show, etc. If this was true, they would've mentioned it by now.  :?  :?  :?  :?
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Grace on December 08, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
The documents were declared as "unsealed" (open to the public upon request and not harming any investigation as I understand)

There were attorneys from TMZ, AP, LA Times, Las Vegas Review attending.
So that press was present at the hearing and that they could afterwards get access to the documents. Obviously the content of the documents were not that spectacular or we would have had an avalanche of "revealed truths" in the tabloids. We did not witness this. So the material was obviously not interesting enough to make a story out of it.

BUT:
The attorneys on top of the document are listed as Mr. Donald J. Campbell and Mr. J. Colby Williams.
http://www.campbellandwilliams.com (http://www.campbellandwilliams.com)
Their office claims to have a reputation in:


So what do they have to do with any murder case?
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: karen-ishealive on December 08, 2009, 02:06:17 PM
Quote from: "4evermichael71"
Some murder investigation when the "perp" is allowed to continue to practice medicine after "confessing" to giving Michael the stuff that "killed" him...


Exactly! The investigator on the case told the woman that rang him (youtube) that an arrest would be made in the new year so Murray is allowed to treat patients until the New Year  :lol:
What a load of horse s**t.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: virgo75 on December 08, 2009, 02:25:30 PM
Hello all;

Please bear with me as this is my first post.  I've been a lurker on the mjhd forum and now here.  Before reading these papers I was at about 50% belief that mj may be alive and did a hoax on purpose, with 25% belief that something just went wrong but he's still alive, and 25% that he is dead.

After reading these papers I am about 75% believing that he is dead.   :(

#1 - these papers have too much detailed information to be fake
#2 - you can print out fake papers, but to file affadavits and legally open case material can't really be faked

And given the information in the papers about the medications, it leads me to
#3 - the family's reactions to mj's "death."

If these papers and/or reports of him having an addiction or over dependance on medications are true, then how his family is reacting - unemotional - is quite normal.  Having dealt with family members suffering with addictions, it's like a long, drawn out death.  You try to intervene(as Janet said they did), but ultimately, have no control over the addicts choices.  Even if their choices are going to ultimately cause their demise.  And when you do lose such a family member, you tend to be more numb and/or angry than grief stricken.  You're angry over their choices and how they threw away their gifts, talents, and family's love for some chemicals.  And numb because you've been watching this person die for Y.E.A.R.S.  It's not a sudden "shock."  It's an expected end and sometimes it's almost a relief because at least you know that that person is in a better place(hopefully), and you're no longer waiting for "the call" that tells you that your loved one is gone.

I've gone over and over the "clues" but many seem far reaching by those of us in love with endless hope that he is still alive and we're waiting and wanting to see him alive and happy.  I want this too.  But I don't believe it to be.

I'll continue to lurk as I'll probably be chased off of here after this post.  
I just felt the need to share.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Grace on December 08, 2009, 02:26:57 PM
Murder is not always a crime.
Especially not if we are talking performance art.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 08, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Hello all;

Please bear with me as this is my first post.  I've been a lurker on the mjhd forum and now here.  Before reading these papers I was at about 50% belief that mj may be alive and did a hoax on purpose, with 25% belief that something just went wrong but he's still alive, and 25% that he is dead.

After reading these papers I am about 75% believing that he is dead.   :(

#1 - these papers have too much detailed information to be fake
#2 - you can print out fake papers, but to file affadavits and legally open case material can't really be faked

And given the information in the papers about the medications, it leads me to
#3 - the family's reactions to mj's "death."

If these papers and/or reports of him having an addiction or over dependance on medications are true, then how his family is reacting - unemotional - is quite normal.  Having dealt with family members suffering with addictions, it's like a long, drawn out death.  You try to intervene(as Janet said they did), but ultimately, have no control over the addicts choices.  Even if their choices are going to ultimately cause their demise.  And when you do lose such a family member, you tend to be more numb and/or angry than grief stricken.  You're angry over their choices and how they threw away their gifts, talents, and family's love for some chemicals.  And numb because you've been watching this person die for Y.E.A.R.S.  It's not a sudden "shock."  It's an expected end and sometimes it's almost a relief because at least you know that that person is in a better place(hopefully), and you're no longer waiting for "the call" that tells you that your loved one is gone.

I've gone over and over the "clues" but many seem far reaching by those of us in love with endless hope that he is still alive and we're waiting and wanting to see him alive and happy.  I want this too.  But I don't believe it to be.

I'll continue to lurk as I'll probably be chased off of here after this post.  
I just felt the need to share.

You won't be run off...we're all here to figure this out, whether it's good or bad news.  Lots of people have doubts, not everyone believes 100% that he is alive.  Some days I'm hopeful, other days not so much.  But I will be here until there is no doubt in my mind either way.  Even if you believe there is a 1% chance this is a hoax, then you're still one of us. ;)
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 08, 2009, 02:52:30 PM
Quote
Having dealt with family members suffering with addictions, it's like a long, drawn out death. You try to intervene(as Janet said they did), but ultimately, have no control over the addicts choices. Even if their choices are going to ultimately cause their demise. And when you do lose such a family member, you tend to be more numb and/or angry than grief stricken. You're angry over their choices and how they threw away their gifts, talents, and family's love for some chemicals. And numb because you've been watching this person die for Y.E.A.R.S. It's not a sudden "shock."

Welcome to the boards, I hope you will continue to post. I try and investigate all parts of this case, conspiracy, murder and hoax. I am here because of the hoax. But you do make a good point.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 08, 2009, 03:21:20 PM
Has anyone looked into the doctor that pronounced his death?  I can't seem to find anything on Dr. R. Cooper.

This is interesting... http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2009/10 ... d-in-home/ (http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2009/10/michael-jackson-autopsy-ap-reports-jackson-died-in-home/)  Did you guys know that at the UCLA press conference Jermaine said Dr. Tohme was MJ's personal doctor, not Murray, and that he was at the house with him?  This is the first time I've heard that.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: DooDoo on December 08, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Murder is not always a crime.
Especially not if we are talking performance art.
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better  ;)
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Zen on December 08, 2009, 10:55:22 PM
virgo75 wrote:Hello all;


After reading these papers I am about 75% believing that he is dead. :(

#1 - these papers have too much detailed information to be fake
#2 - you can print out fake papers, but to file affadavits and legally open case material can't really be faked

And given the information in the papers about the medications, it leads me to
#3 - the family's reactions to mj's "death."

If these papers and/or reports of him having an addiction or over dependance on medications are true, then how his family is reacting - unemotional - is quite normal. Having dealt with family members suffering with addictions, it's like a long, drawn out death. You try to intervene(as Janet said they did), but ultimately, have no control over the addicts choices. Even if their choices are going to ultimately cause their demise. And when you do lose such a family member, you tend to be more numb and/or angry than grief stricken. You're angry over their choices and how they threw away their gifts, talents, and family's love for some chemicals. And numb because you've been watching this person die for Y.E.A.R.S. It's not a sudden "shock." It's an expected end and sometimes it's almost a relief because at least you know that that person is in a better place(hopefully), and you're no longer waiting for "the call" that tells you that your loved one is gone.

I've gone over and over the "clues" but many seem far reaching by those of us in love with endless hope that he is still alive and we're waiting and wanting to see him alive and happy. I want this too. But I don't believe it to be.

I'll continue to lurk as I'll probably be chased off of here after this post.
I just felt the need to share.


I think you should continue to post and state your opinion and findings.  8-)
The "problem" with this, is that the title says "Murder Investigation"..and if that is true, then I
believe the family should at least (for Appearance sake!) show more outrage and shock.
I for one, could not believe my eyes when I saw the photos of Jermaine with a Jackson 5 shirt on
a couple of days after Michael's death!  What was he trying to say..."remember me?!"
If it turns out to be TRUE that Michael was murdered..then I will truely HATE his family..as they
have done nothing but jet-set around the world for interviews, concerts, ect.  and I seriously hope it
back-fires on them.
And while on this subject, it "could" be, that some of Michaels REAL friends did not attend the
funeral because they could not stand the "grandstanding" of some of the family members.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: hope on December 08, 2009, 11:04:00 PM
Zen, I really agree with you. I cant even look at the Jackson family right now except for his beautiful children.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Grace on December 08, 2009, 11:08:27 PM
Did it cross your mind that for murder there are at least 4 options available?
(we did not look enough into this at all)

- murder of MJ
- murder of somebody else (date 25/06/2009)
- murder of somebody else (other date)
- murder as performance art (a fake of a fake is no crime)

Heads up please.
Does anybody know whether Tenderoni is with us ? He knew quite a bit about jurisdiction.
Maybe somebody could contact Tenderoni please? Txs.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Tay3 on December 09, 2009, 12:35:27 AM
Well, this is something to think about, but we just have to wait and see what happens to Dr. Murray if and when he is charged with anything. That's the key to all of this IMO. But I feel very sure of one thing... the claims about him being dead in his home long before being taken to the hospital can't be true. If that really is MJ in the ambulance picture, he's definitely not dead. I have a nursing background and have seen people in this type of distress... (not breathing, weak or no pulse)... and the color of their skin can range from bluish purple to very ashen gray. Not only the face is discolored, but also areas of the chest and shoulders. I'm convinced that WAS NOT a dead person in the ambulance :!:
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: virgo75 on December 09, 2009, 08:07:57 AM
Thank you for the kind welcome and not coming after me with torches and pitch forks!  :lol:


I don't like how most of his family, ok, JERMAINE(wait, add Joe too) is acting either.  
It's evident that Michael was surrounded by opportunists who didn't give a flying fig about his well being.
Even some members of his own family seem this way which is really sad.   :(

And as for his family showing more outrage and shock- if he had a problem with medications and surrounded himself with leeches who would get them for him, then there's really no shock there that he would end up dead.  It was just a matter of time.  When you're dealing with people who have addictions, one thing you learn is that they escalate.  They only grow and get worse.  And Michael was a man with endless amounts of money and resources to get whatever he wanted...  It's really a miracle that there weren't a bunch of overdose scares where he ended up in the hospital from taking too much of something by accident.  

And how can you be outraged when these are the people that Michael may have chosen to surround himself with so that he could get the medications that he wanted?  Again, the main emotions would probably be: anger, frustration, and numbness.  He had endless resources for help if he did have a problem.  

We're looking at this from a fan's point of view instead of a family member.  
They were the ones who got to see ALL of his sides - good and bad.
They were the ones who got to worry endlessly about their son/brother being surrounded by horrible people because they give him what he wants.
They were the ones who got to stage futile interventions while watching their loved one deteriorate and slowly edge closer to their demise by their own hands.

We got to appeciate what he had to offer the world with his talent and generosity.
Did/do we REALLY know him?????
No.
We can feel like we did/do, but we didn't/don't.

As far as it being someone else who died, I guess that's possible.  But unless they legally changed their name to "Michael Joseph Jackson" then that person is not who's murder is being investigated...

I agree that the ambulance photo looks wrong, years old.  Which was one of my main reasons for doubting his death.
But then again, I think there's a lot more going on than what we're being allowed to see.  There may be other reasons why we've never seen a real pic of him in the ambulance.  And why some things don't add up.  I'm just becoming less hopeful that one of those reasons is that he's alive and happy.   :(

edited to add:  All of what I'm writing is assuming that he *did* have an addiction/dependancy problem as has been stated in the paperwork linked above as well as by his own family members and friends.  Sure, it could be a cover, but why unanimously slander him so he could fake his "death?"  It would also make the family less assertive in his "murder" as they can't really be sure that it's a "murder" if he was an addict who demanded too many medications.  Drug dealers aren't charged with murder because their clients overdose.
Sorry this is so long.   :oops:
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: SILVANA on December 09, 2009, 10:08:44 AM
Quote from: "Tay3"
Well, this is something to think about, but we just have to wait and see what happens to Dr. Murray if and when he is charged with anything. That's the key to all of this IMO. But I feel very sure of one thing... the claims about him being dead in his home long before being taken to the hospital can't be true. If that really is MJ in the ambulance picture, he's definitely not dead. I have a nursing background and have seen people in this type of distress... (not breathing, weak or no pulse)... and the color of their skin can range from bluish purple to very ashen gray. Not only the face is discolored, but also areas of the chest and shoulders. I'm convinced that WAS NOT a dead person in the ambulance :!:



I agree, he didn't look like a dead man, no way.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Lou on December 09, 2009, 05:04:49 PM
I opened the pdf file and checked the document. I noticed that the first page shows a date: November, 20th. It says "Filed november, 20th".  

We know that dr Murray was allowed to go back to work. The news reporting he was back to work was released by TMZ on November 23rd (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/23/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-texas-office-work-video/).  

What I find odd is that 3 days after the investigation turns into a murder investigation,  the prime suspect - a doctor - is allowed to practice medicine again. Unless I misunderstood something, he was already the target of a murder investigation, when he was allowed to go back to his work. It still doesn't make sense to me. :?
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: the_gloved_one on December 09, 2009, 05:28:23 PM
Am i right in thinking that if a person isn't charged with a crime they are free to go i.e free to work etc...looks like the police can't make their minds up on what to charge Murray with plus, think about all the evidence they have to go through...You would expect the Jacksons to not rest until justice is done but, they all seem to be moving on and getting on with life. If i was Murray i would be sh**ting myself thinking about the charges that may/maynot be brought against me - how can he function with this on his mind? How is he not sick with worry? Something is just not right!
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: icebluestarlight on December 09, 2009, 05:33:42 PM
Well I don't know about you guys but I think he looked better in the ambulance than he did in This is It.  How is that possible?  

The fact that all these documents have TMZ or whoever across them on every page, does that make a difference?  Maybe if you put that then you can say well look it was our own documents which were produced in association with Mr Jackson simply for a movie he is making?  I do not know the legalities of it maybe someone with a legal background would know.  Most of the information could be put down as that because if the Media choose to take a statement from Jermaine and then footage put out by the Jacksons as being gospel well then that is their problem.  Has anyone seen anything from a regular source as opposed to TMZ ET or other such places.  It is all really odd.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 09, 2009, 05:44:12 PM
The ambulance picture was obviously a fake.  That person had the fullest face with the rosiest cheeks I ever saw on a dead person.  FAKE.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: mumof3 on December 09, 2009, 05:47:13 PM
Why would a proffesional doctor when dealing with an emergency of the highest life or death situation call a young boy the son of the patient up to see what is goin on it cant be true I have never heard of such a cruel thing to do too a young son if it is true he should be in deep trouble for doing such could understand if he was an adult but no way a child the Doctor should have been to busy to even think of such a thing  and should have made sure the children could not witness any traumatic scenes that would scar them for life.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Girliegurl75 on December 09, 2009, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
If Michael Jackson was murder,than I find his family is handeling it very well! :shock: To loose a familly member is very hard but murder!!I don't know but the grieving process  would be impossible for me until justice was served...I would have lots of anger feelings and I would yell for justice.To me none of his family member behave likes this is a murder.

I'm with you on this AnnieIsNotOk...especially since anger is a much easier emotion to deal with than grief. I watched my Mom become a different person when we buried my Uncle on the 4th and he died in his sleep unexpectedly. I can't imagine what my family would have been like if he'd have died from negligence or intent.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: alexa7 on December 09, 2009, 06:55:09 PM
PLEASE PLEASE DON'T WORRY.  These documents have been discussed at length on the old MJHD and on our forum, they were originally published by TMZ (of course), I can't find them on TMZ but you'll see them on this link to our forum-
www.mj-conspiracy.com/wordpress/?page_id=4 (http://www.mj-conspiracy.com/wordpress/?page_id=4)
this has the link to TMZ, on the tmz docs the addresses are shown and amongst other inconsistencies/errors in the search warrants is that the address stated for Applied Pharmacy Services is 6370 W Flamingo, THERE IS NO SUCH BUSINESS AT THIS ADDRESS, there were searches done with google maps and all sorts of things (sorry can't find all the postings) Applied Pharmacy is at 2851 N Tenaya Way, Ste 202.  If there are any errors in a search warrant it is nullified and an address is EXTREMELY important, that's why they go into so much detail describing the building etc. so there is no doubt, other errors that spring to mind are the spelling of Grace Rwanda's name (Orwanda) (not sure of my spellings here!!) anyway I was VERY shocked by this at first but it has been looked at SO KEEP THE FAITH  :)
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: darkchild on December 09, 2009, 10:49:27 PM
I was not able to view the article.  However, I did read many of the comments.  I agree with so many wonderful and insightful comments made here.  Overwhelmingly for me, I totally think that the ambulance photo of MJ is 100% fake.  I wish that Christopher Weiss (I think that is his name) who took this photo could explain how he got such a clear photo of MJ dying through tinted windows.  KEEP THE FAITH, you guys are so wonderful here with all your lovely, hardcore, detective work.  MJ, baby, I love you more and more everyday, my angel.
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: CC on December 10, 2009, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Did it cross your mind that for murder there are at least 4 options available?
(we did not look enough into this at all)

- murder of MJ
- murder of somebody else (date 25/06/2009)
- murder of somebody else (other date)
- murder as performance art (a fake of a fake is no crime)

Heads up please.
Does anybody know whether Tenderoni is with us ? He knew quite a bit about jurisdiction.
Maybe somebody could contact Tenderoni please? Txs.

i know what you mean, I check the site http://www.campbellandwilliams.com/ (http://www.campbellandwilliams.com/) and you are right about them. now, when i google tenderoni, just because i can't find it here, in this forum... i found
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... =Tenderoni (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tenderoni)

Tenderoni honey roni skoal bratwurst dip

1.  Tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsA fine young thing. Also a pretty young thing.
"..tenderoni you've got to be, sugar honey come fly with me." Michael Jackson, P.Y.T.(Pretty Young Thing)
honey sweety sugar dumpling pot-pie muffin..

2.  tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsPretty Young Thing, used in a funny way.
"Tenderoni You've Got To Be, Spark My Nature Sugar Fly With Me" Michael Jackson "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)"
pretty young thing funny michae jackson


3.  Tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsA young tender woman that has never been done
R. Kelly got caught up with a tenderoni
young tender tenderohni tenderony youngn virgin


and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderoni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderoni)

Tenderoni
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Tenderoni is a slang terminology which refers to a younger male or female love interest or someone too young to talk to or become involved with. It is composed of "tender", which is a synonym for young and "roni" which usually serves as an affectionate diminutive towards a male or female. It denotes your younger sweetheart, your younger better half, your younger boyfriend/girlfriend, and more recently used as an alternate word for jailbait.

In the 1970s the word tenderoni was commonly used to identify a younger male or female that an older individual was interested in talking to or dating. Or a younger person one needed to stay away from because of their age. It was not uncommon to hear someone say, "I have a tenderoni in my life", "that's my tenderoni" or "Don't talk to him/her because he/she is a tenderoni."

In the 1980s the word resurfaced when Bobby Brown used it in his successful 1988 hit "Roni" to describe a young beautiful girl. The term has surfaced in other pieces of music as well.
Appearances of tenderoni in popular music
Michael Jackson, "P.Y.T." (1982)
"...Tenderoni you got to be
Spark my nature, sugar fly with me..."

O'Bryan, "Tenderoni" (1986)

Bobby Brown, "Roni" (1988)
Tevin Campbell, "Can We Talk" (1993)
"...And just like a roni You were too shy..."

http://www.bobbysongs.com/lyrics.html (http://www.bobbysongs.com/lyrics.html)

http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/chrom ... 06347.html (http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/chromeo_lyrics_8482/fancy_footwork_lyrics_46953/tenderoni_lyrics_506347.html)

http://www.tenderoni.com/francine_spiegel/ (http://www.tenderoni.com/francine_spiegel/)

and a guy on twitter... betwen others...
i don't know what you are talking about... i'm lost! :roll:
I think you know something that we don't... don't be shy... tell us! PLEASE! :oops:
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: Lou on December 11, 2009, 09:02:41 AM
Quote from: "the_gloved_one"
Am i right in thinking that if a person isn't charged with a crime they are free to go i.e free to work etc...
I think you are right, but in my country there was a recent case - a doctor was accused of murdering two patients. It was reported that while he was being investigated, he had his license to practice medicine suspended. I thought that the same could happen to dr. M, that's why I found strange that even after the case turns into a murder investigation it was ok for him to go back to work. But I don't have any knowledge on legal matters, so I was just guessing...
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: tenschi on December 11, 2009, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Grace"
Did it cross your mind that for murder there are at least 4 options available?
(we did not look enough into this at all)

- murder of MJ
- murder of somebody else (date 25/06/2009)
- murder of somebody else (other date)
- murder as performance art (a fake of a fake is no crime)

Heads up please.
Does anybody know whether Tenderoni is with us ? He knew quite a bit about jurisdiction.
Maybe somebody could contact Tenderoni please? Txs.

i know what you mean, I check the site http://www.campbellandwilliams.com/ (http://www.campbellandwilliams.com/) and you are right about them. now, when i google tenderoni, just because i can't find it here, in this forum... i found
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... =Tenderoni (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tenderoni)

Tenderoni honey roni skoal bratwurst dip

1.  Tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsA fine young thing. Also a pretty young thing.
"..tenderoni you've got to be, sugar honey come fly with me." Michael Jackson, P.Y.T.(Pretty Young Thing)
honey sweety sugar dumpling pot-pie muffin..

2.  tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsPretty Young Thing, used in a funny way.
"Tenderoni You've Got To Be, Spark My Nature Sugar Fly With Me" Michael Jackson "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)"
pretty young thing funny michae jackson


3.  Tenderoni  
 buy tenderoni mugs, tshirts and magnetsA young tender woman that has never been done
R. Kelly got caught up with a tenderoni
young tender tenderohni tenderony youngn virgin


and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderoni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenderoni)

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Tenderoni is a slang terminology which refers to a younger male or female love interest or someone too young to talk to or become involved with. It is composed of "tender", which is a synonym for young and "roni" which usually serves as an affectionate diminutive towards a male or female. It denotes your younger sweetheart, your younger better half, your younger boyfriend/girlfriend, and more recently used as an alternate word for jailbait.

In the 1970s the word tenderoni was commonly used to identify a younger male or female that an older individual was interested in talking to or dating. Or a younger person one needed to stay away from because of their age. It was not uncommon to hear someone say, "I have a tenderoni in my life", "that's my tenderoni" or "Don't talk to him/her because he/she is a tenderoni."

In the 1980s the word resurfaced when Bobby Brown used it in his successful 1988 hit "Roni" to describe a young beautiful girl. The term has surfaced in other pieces of music as well.
Appearances of tenderoni in popular music
Michael Jackson, "P.Y.T." (1982)
"...Tenderoni you got to be
Spark my nature, sugar fly with me..."

O'Bryan, "Tenderoni" (1986)

Bobby Brown, "Roni" (1988)
Tevin Campbell, "Can We Talk" (1993)
"...And just like a roni You were too shy..."

http://www.bobbysongs.com/lyrics.html (http://www.bobbysongs.com/lyrics.html)

http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/chrom ... 06347.html (http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/chromeo_lyrics_8482/fancy_footwork_lyrics_46953/tenderoni_lyrics_506347.html)

http://www.tenderoni.com/francine_spiegel/ (http://www.tenderoni.com/francine_spiegel/)

and a guy on twitter... betwen others...
i don't know what you are talking about... i'm lost! :roll:
I think you know something that we don't... don't be shy... tell us! PLEASE! :oops:

Brilliant CC!  I would have never thought to google that name.  That's why I lurk - don't have the brain cells to participate... :oops:
Title: Re: Judge says its now a murder investigation
Post by: CC on December 11, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
I WAS GOOGLING PERFORMANCE ART LEGISLATION HOAX DEATH.... AND COME THIS PAGE
http://sniggle.net/perfart.php (http://sniggle.net/perfart.php)
THE FIRST I THINK WAS.... IF MICHAEL IS IN THIS PAGE, THIS IS IT...
AND IS... AND PT BARNUM TOO...
THE NAME OF MICHAEL JACKSON HAVE A LINK AND TAKE ME TO...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/?ito=1639 (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/?ito=1639)
THE NAME OF THE PAGE IS THIS IS LONDON...  
MAYBE SOMEONE SEE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T, ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE AND IT'S TOO LATE IN MY COUNTRY... I'M SO TIRED... MAYBE YOU CAN!
BIG THANK YOU ALL!
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